Ep. 189 - Cousin Matt's Long Range RWD Model Y!

Join Drew and his cousin Matt as they discuss his new Tesla Purchase Experience!

Published: 8-10-2024, Recorded: 8-6-2024

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back to Ta LUs of Ev and thanks for
coming on. Matt. Absolutely for those who don't know, this
is my cousin, and we talked tech at all the
family gatherings. Yeah, that's okay. So I finally figured we
should probably just have one on camera with our little
pow wows about your experience, because you're essentially in my
dream original Tesla like I years ago pre ordered the

(00:39):
long range rereal drive with the efficient darker Rims and
then they never made it until a couple months ago,
and then you grabbed it. We were blown away.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
We were like, we want the we want the efficient
darker Rims like you said, and we didn't know that
was possible. And so then yeah, and that's one of
your comment said in one of your life streams, it's
the slowest Tesla.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
But we don't care about that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, because I mean you've probably driven around a bit
now you know how fast.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's still the fastest car I've ever owned.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Times ten, let's see, how far have you gone so far?
Just a little over two thousand miles. Yeah, we and
that's only been in a month. That's way more than
we drive. We drive about maybe ten thousand miles a
year total.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Wow, But I'm a school teacher, so summertime I can,
we're we're just doing road trip after road trip. And
also we had free super They gave us free supercharging
miles for like two months and so we got it
at the end of June. So for this last month,
we've just been driving everywhere because we will just drive
for fun because this car is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
And the bill they're from the bills free games as much.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
As you want. So that's awesome. So how did you
first find out about uh Tesla? How did you get
into it originally?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, actually, I was thinking about it on the way
over here, and the first time that I ever heard
about Tesla was I mean, I think it was pre
Roadster in space. It was early, it was it was
the roadster was the only car. I remember calling my dad.
I was living across the country and I called my

(02:19):
dad and I told him, I said, we there's this guy.
They're about to go public. This guy's making these electric cars.
He's making them super. Well, it's finally time. I'm like,
let's invest in some stock. And so we each invested
one hundred thousand dollars and never now we never have
to work again. No, we didn't invest a penny because

(02:40):
my dad said.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know, gas car you know, that's not gas was
always going to be around and.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
We're never gonna you know, why are we We're going
on war over oil?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Like why would we ever get rid of gas cars?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
And so we invested not a red scent, I mean, dude, yeah,
just volunteering.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And so I'm still mad at them about that too.
You legitimately wanted to.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Legitimately I was like Dad, even if we put a
thousand bucks each, like we can you know, we could
afford that, I mean a thousand bucks each. I don't
even know what that's worth now, you know, fifty fourteen
years later or whatever it is. It's probably half men.
I mean, I don't even know, but I haven't done
the math. But man, I didn't know you were aware
of them that much. Oh yeah, way way way early,

(03:26):
because I had always I don't know, I had always
been interested in using electricity over I mean, part of
it too is you know, I know Taylus doesn't talk
about politics, but part of it too is you know,
I was I was a kid growing up during I
was in high school during nine to eleven and all
the subsequent wars in Iraq, and it was just like, man,

(03:49):
oil just feels antiquated and it feels bloody totally. And
it was like, I just feel like electricity, especially with
solar panels getting better. Solar panels have been since the seventies,
but they were just not great. Well they're getting better
and better, and by late you know, two thousands aughts whatever,
it is, more and more people getting solar panels. And

(04:11):
I was just like, man, if gas stations are on
top of houses. I mean I was having those thoughts
pretty early. And then when this guy said that he
was just gonna basically force through electric cars despite big oil,
I was kinda I was there because I was already
feeling those sorts of things, and so we wanted to test.
I wanted to Tesla forever. But you know, Model s's

(04:35):
and x's are just like outraged. I mean, they're just
not I don't you got to be a rich person.
I think less you're getting one really used and so
and then the threes and my eyes white and then
the y is my my eyes really white? Because you know,
I'm a big guy and we've we have uh you know,

(04:57):
we're bigger family, and so we just we always kind
of like that mid size too. We always had a
Honda Odyssey, so that was always our Oh they're indestructible.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's the best, the best gas car there is.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And in fact, if there was an electric Odyssey, we
may be sitting in that because just because Honda has
been so good for our family. But you know, we
like mid sized two van type of vehicles, and this
thing is plenty of what we need because it's not
a you know, we don't have My wife and I

(05:32):
don't have kids. We have puppy, but we don't have kids, and.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
So the most dog friendly car with mode, oh dude.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Dog mode was like my wife's maybe biggest seller. We
could take her anywhere and she could be in the
air conditioning and then watching.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Her from the camera. I mean literally, I.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Think we just bought premium connectivity for that feature, you know.
So so yeah, so then you know, we're also we
try to be really financially responsible. So we're like big
kind of Dave Ramsey fans, and so one of the
things that he talks about is the cheapest. The cheapest
car you own is the one that's or the cheapest

(06:13):
car you can have is the one you already owned.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
That runs and drives.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And so we just were like, you know what, We're
gonna wear out the cars we had. She has a
two thousand and eight Corolla at a two thousand and
eight Honda Odyssey. Sure, and we just said, we're just
gonna wear these into the ground.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
And then the next new car we buy is gonna
be a Tesla.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Because we've just been you know, drooling over them and
then about and then you know, about six weeks ago,
we were in a wreck. We were rear ended by
an uninsured mot don't drive without insurance. It's it's rough, dude,
like that is really dangerous and illegal and bad anyway,

(06:50):
so he hit us. We didn't get a penny for
the van because there was no bodily injury. We were
blessed that there was no bodle injury. Those odysseys are safe.
But the next literally we're on the side of the road.
I'm yelling and just SAand words. I should say, we're frustrated.

(07:11):
I'm not yelling at the guy, but we're just it's
just you know, jarring, and my wife goes, well, at
least now we can get a Tesla, and I was like,
that's way too soon to be saying that we just.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Were in three minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
But also I was kind of like, yeah, that's true,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So what was the turnaround then from accident to delivery
each other?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I fought with the insurance company the following week
just to see financially where we were at.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
We had been saving for a long time good, so
we knew this day was coming.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
And so for about three days I fought with them,
and then on a so it was we were on
a wreck on a Saturday. By the following Friday afternoon,
we were like, let's just press order, which is, by
the way, super scary. So we're we're older millennials, so
like ordering a car on the internet, it just feels
like it's You're just like, I don't go to the
place and look at her first, you probably so I

(08:07):
got so many of them on the lots. Well, and
I'll tell you my experience when we went to the
place that she was like, of course, you can look
at it before you pay for it, But I was like,
can I look at it before for it?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Anyway? It's shocking process.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Huh oh dude, And yeah, for a guy pushing forty
I'm just like that, this is not no like you,
I mean Amazon, but like ordering a car that.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Much money to be wiring.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Oh my gosh, it's so scary.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's a big transaction.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So we ordered it on a Friday, yeah, and by
like Monday or Tuesday, it said our delivery date for
the following Sunday.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
So basically it was a quick nine day turnaround. Well
here's what we figured out. We took delivery on June thirtieth,
which my wife figured out on Reddit.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, it was the last day of the business quarter.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
So Tesla was like So when we went down there
on Sunday, we were like we even called.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
We were so excited. After church.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
We called the guy and we're like, can we show
up early and he was like no, it's aid like
four pm.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
He's like no, don't show up early. And we were like, well, okay.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So we went down there a million people that we
couldn't find a place to park our Corolla because it
was there was so many brand new Teslas and there
was a million people waiting, and they had a dozen
people running getting cars, all the guys in the service
center driving the cars out it's a ton of people

(09:38):
and it was literally like Disneyland, and we're like, what
is happening.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And then that's when when my wife figured out, oh,
they're trying.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
To get these soul then out to customers on the
last day, you know, so they can deliver the stockholders
and so so it though, so we showed up, We've
met this really nice lady. She could tell that we
were nervous that this was not this was something that
was not like we never owned a new car. We

(10:06):
were like, okay, hi, I'm mad, I'm here for my tusla,
and so they were. She was super chill. She was
a really nice lady. She walked us through the process
and I was like, before I hit pick and we
look at it, She's like, of course, and so she
put the hazards on. But there was like literally a

(10:26):
dozen model why white model wise with their hazards on.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So we had to go to each one and.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Look at the ven number and each one and finally
found the little paper and had a little paper right
here that said our name.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And so we looked at it and we're like, you know,
looked at it for about three or four seconds. Okay,
let's go buy it so we can ride in it.
So we went back to the lady and she said,
this is the president or the main boss, the manager
of the Akland from the delivery center. And I was like, whoa.

(11:03):
So I met him and so I'm like, man, this
is crazy day. And he's like Bonker's day, right. Everybody
was just like this has been a murder day. Wow.
And so I go, so when I press, when I'm
sending this much money from my bank account to Tesla,
do I need to like pray or do a dance
or like some sort of ritual. And she's just like like, like,

(11:27):
I think everybody involved is like that, that is crazy
to hit a button and like that more than half
of a year's salary just like okay, bye, Yeah, it's
it's just a kind of a jarring experience.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's the hardest part by far the number.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's just an I mean, and we know how it's
funny because if we were making payments or if we
because we try to as Dave Ramsey fans, we try
to pay cash sure, and so if we were making
payments or if it was I don't know, if it
was out of dealership, they talked a bunch of numbers,
but it was just like on your app, okay, Plaid, Okay,
now let Plaid sign into your bank account or like,

(12:10):
and I'm like little what okay, and then to hit
just like purchase and it's like okay. But I mean,
you know, maybe I'm lead, maybe I'm old.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Like it's a weird sensation. It's crazy. But so you
drove it home and its.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Service visits, and my wife is like crazy meticulous. She
was like fine tooth clone dude. She was looking at
every inch of this thing to see if there was
panel gap because we also watched a bunch of videos
she got scared, you know, panel gaps, and and it

(12:57):
was uh, she just went through this thing. It was perfect, wow,
And we were just so excited.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
From Fremont, that's usually the factory, more people are concerned about.
Oh really, they've got it fine tuned. I guess because
I looked around too when you finally let me see it,
and I couldn't find anything either.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It was nothing like there's one little issue down here
where the side of the yeah, and I can take
a picture or something. Okay, the side of the interior
comes up from the lip of the rubber, and so
there's like you could kind of see in the animal.
We could take a picture of it later, and we're like,
but it goes in, it goes back in perfectly. And

(13:34):
also like my big fat foot is probably like doing it.
So I'm like, I don't really want to open a
service ticket for that.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I hear you. Honestly, you don't know how long
it's gonna take. And I've had times where the service
fixes one problem and creates a new one. So I
feel like I'm playing I'm rolling the dice when I
go to a service center. Yeah, it goes well.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well, And then I went to schedule in and it
was like, you know, four weeks out or six weeks
out and Chico, and I was just like whatever, So yeah,
I let it be.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
But everything else has been amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We bought a bunch of aftermarket stuff, but we bought
we got some on market like this.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
We actually were actually a little bit disappointed in this.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
We got the headliner because when I'm driving, I'm tall
enough that the sun kind of gets in between.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Plus it's like one.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Hundred and million degrees where the sun's trying to kill
us where we live.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
But the it's a little saggy.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, this is this is the Tesla, you know premium,
you know from the.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
This is this is the one they made. We ordered it.
We ordered it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
When we ordered the Tesla. It took him like six
weeks to get here. But it's a little saggy. But
but also like who cares. And then Drew was so nice.
He got us a petline puppy.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
That thing is gorgeous, good and works great.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You'd recommend that one. I would definitely recommend that one.
It covers all the panels. One of her little paws
get up on the side of it. It's not like
scratching the interior.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
A friend of mine had a dog eat into that
the door panel. They had to get it fished. So
that's why I'd seen those stories, and I knew you
had a dog.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
So it was just like, luckily she doesn't chewing a ton,
but also she gets scratchy, so yeah, she But also
this interior, dude, it feels indestructible. Goodiate this vegan leather
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
It cleans up nice too, even in the and it's incredible. Yeah,
they've done a good job. But for the record, did
I warn you about there is a refresh rumor to
come out. Yes, so you were aware.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
We knew, and honestly, it was like, so are we
going to go six or eight months with one car.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Or buy another old or buy another old beater for
you know?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
And then it's like now, especially we had the we
you know, the white with the black rims that were
more efficient. We were gonna get the silver rooms just
because they were more efficient. But I like the color.
We you know, our house has a lot of black
and white.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
And right it matches perfectly, and our dog is black
and white.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And yeah, we got solar.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, so last year we had Tesla solar installed and
I told them, I was like, I want you to
max up, like basically, give me as many panels as
you're allowed to give me. And they did, and they
it like like fifty or sixty percent of our energy
goes back into the grid.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Which I'm not trying.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'm not trying to help Pa Genie out. I just
was future proofing. We're gonna have two electric cars. Someday,
We're gonna have yeah if like she if the Corola dies,
I'm buying another Tesla.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
You think another why you think.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We may do the Model three because you know it
would be her car. But or well, right now, the
Wise are almost like kind of cheat, like they have
gotten really too comparable in price. That's true, so we
just thought I just I wanted to maximize. Plus, we
live in an area with PGEN, which if you know

(17:16):
anybody that has pg you know how awful they are.
I have p I have friends who work for PG
I love them dearly as people. They work for an
evil corporation. Most of the ones I've talked to would
acknowledge that too, and.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
They yeah, actually that's true.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
They're like, yeah, you know, but you know I work
for PGD and I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Dude, seriously, Well, we live way too close to a
place that they city they burned down, and so I
just I was like, when we built our new house,
we're like, I'm like, I'm gonna get as off the
grid as I'm allowed to be, which you're not allowed
to be one hundred percent off the grid.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
No, they make that near impossible. But as far as
the second Tesla is concerned, like your or your priorities,
is it just like I want a second Tesla so
that the mobile app and the solar all works, or
would you be open to like a non tesla. My
wife keeps looking at those ribbans.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Oh not like swee dude, we are not like maybe
my school teacher.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Maybe R three R two. That's when it gets more
for like, I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
This should be cheaper, but oh they're coming out with cheaper.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah. The R two is supposed to be like forty
five thousands. Oh, or the R three should be even less.
But we're talking three four years. Okay, so the current
ones are not less than eighty or ninety Oh yeah,
all the R ones are pretty pricey.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But I'm like, uh but yeah, actually three or four years,
maybe that's where we'll be at.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Is it? Like, I'm just curious if you had like
a priority of like you want more cargo space than this,
or you need supercharging or that kind of thing. No,
this is perfect.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
We don't really need supercharging except in the summer we
go on road trips, but during.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
The school year we don't go anywhere and do anything. Yeah,
so as long as what are the cars.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, you know, we don't even have the We didn't
even get like the wall we just got.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm sorry, I don't know the difference between the names.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
We just have a mobile connector, right, we don't have
the more expensive because it was like over ten hours
or something, it'll charge. And I'm like, dude, we don't
even need to. I go literally five miles to work
and five miles home. We don't even go do anything else.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
That covers that covers.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Except for summer and when you're on a road trip,
like who care, like sit there for an hour while
playing watch Netflix?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Right, like complaint like people.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Complain about And actually my wife and I were talking
people complain about like, oh you have to wait a
half hour to First of all, we were only gonna
use superchargers in the summer. Secondly, when you add up
all the trips to the gas station, oh yeah, instead
of just over the course of a year, yeah, going out.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Of your way, you have to make it stop, make
a trip.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And so it's another it's ten minutes out and then
you fill up, and then you drive ten minutes home.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
And it's like and you have.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
To do that every week? We right too, yeah as much.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
And so I'm like, what are people complaining about, dude,
Like stopping the gas station even if it takes five minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Or how many people go out of their way to
get to the costco gas, yeah, or the costco gas
right exactly, you'll spend the extra time to save the money.
And this just saves period. It just plugs in out
does they plug in?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
And it's free. It's free at home.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I see it as free because we bought so many
solar panels anyway, right, because I just never I wanted
to have my AC running. Yeah, and so I actually
have a negative balance on my there you go, and
so it which they're never going to write me a check,
but I can also use as much a c as

(21:04):
I want. I can have, you know, we could charge
the car for free. And so it's I I tell
my friends that are just like still kind of gas
gear heads, you know, and I'm like, I've got a
free gas station on my.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
House, man, Like why would I like?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
And so for us, it just it just made sense
to have an electric car. Plus, you know, I was
telling her like, uh, it's like the I remember because
being a millennial, I remember the leaps, right. I remember
the first time we got a family home computer. Right.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I remember the first time that we.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Got fifty six K modem dial up, right, and then
also the first smartphone, right, Yeah, iPhone four right, and
then for me and then the ipade and.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Now this that's where I put this.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, it's like it's not switch.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's not like driving any car I've ever owned, my
family's ever owned. My dad's had hot rod cars, we had,
you know, just any car we've ever owned. Even my
mom has a twenty twenty Honda Odyssey, and it's this
thing is just like, oh this is different.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, it's like flip phone to iPhone literally switch yeah,
souch other connectedness and.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
The technology and this and the driver profiles and the
seats and just remember being like, no, like I knew
that it existed because I knew of dog mode and
camp mode, but just having being able to have the
air conditioning on any time, Oh.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, car running this whole time. What that's a pretty ever.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Right, And that can't exist without an engine car or
in an engine car.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You can't just let it, you know, run like when.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
You're in the store. Great, if it's in an enclosed space, like.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, that's true to it's funny.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
We my mom rode in it yesterday and we opened
the hatch and my sister had to get something out
of it. My mom goes, well, but are you gonna
are you gonna like get carbon monoxide in.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Her mouth right now?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
And I'm like what Mom is like, She's like, oh yeah,
but you just forget.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
But yeah, just being able to have the air conditioning on,
like little things make a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
We did the camp mode on our last camping trip,
just running it all. We watched that.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was just like incredible, and we were so motivated
to try that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
We didn't get a chance this summer.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
But sure, No, it's totally different kind of it's like, oh,
we should go camping more often. It's just it's like
usually we stay in hotels. But it's like, well, if
it's gonna be you know, temperature wise, good right.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Just so for sure. But as far as like future
ev purchases go, would Elon's tweets or his opinions ever
influenced you?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
He's uh, he's you know, every mad genius has his quirks.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
YEA.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Honestly, it never got close to completely turning me off.
Here's why I assume that most billionaires and CEOs or scumbacks,
I just don't know them. Yeah, I'm sure that. I'm
sure that. And if he's watching. I apologize, but I'm
sure that the CEO of Ford is a scumbag.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
He's just doing it quietly.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
So Elon's open about like his opinion his like crazy
opinions or thoughts or do out you know both talking
on both sides of his mouth or you know, his
just kind of craziness. A lot of stuff I disagree with.
Some of his stuff I agree with, but like, ultimately
I just assume that most guys.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Like him are terrible alternative. Yeah, that you would feel ethically, like.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Honest, it's kind of part of being a billionaire, like
you gotta be you're kind of just a scot, like
you got to step on next to get to that point.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, that's part of my views.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
And so I'm just like, eh, that's.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's gonna be at the end of any big brand
that makes it.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Literally, I mean there's a few that I feel like,
there's companies that I really support, like Costco. I think
that they care about the I don't know if you
saw this interview with the guy that owns Arizona Tea,
He's like, why would I raise my prices? We own everything,
like like people can't pay their rent or I'm gonna

(25:38):
charge them more for Tea. So that guy got a
customer for life from me. But when it came to
electric cars, first of all, no one's close.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's funny because we were talking in that stream and
people were talking about like Ford, uh F one fifty
Lightnings or whatever. Yeah, and I'm like, guys, you're worried
about Tesla service. First of all, freaking four dealerships are
three hundred and fifty dollars an hour.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Secondly, like I grew up in.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
An era when they were just making four touruses that
weren't supposed to go ninety thousand miles and dump so
that you had to buy a new one, I will
never buy it. I swore that I would never buy
an American vehicle until Tesla. Wow, because I just grew
up with they. They didn't They made cars suckier to

(26:29):
sell more cars, yeah, and more service and more service
to go bad. And you take it back to the
dealership and they are outrageous. And I'm just like man
buying an electric forward to me. I mean, maybe I
don't know enough about it all, but I'm like an electric.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Ford they didn't even know how to make.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's a good point and so I so you know,
Rivan's interesting. Obviously, those Lucids are insane. But like normal people,
I mean, good on you. If you own a Lucid
or a Rivian man you are blest. Yeah, but for
us nor means out here, it's like.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
You still have a ton of advantages over those just
by having an export, just by having unrestricted supercharger access. Yeah,
the super that's what I'm hearing. That's something you're not
getting on the Lucid or the Rivians get it via
an adapter. Yeah, but then you gotta park weird and
you get thermal limitations because the charger wasn't built for
the car and they're trying to force them to work together.

(27:32):
So there's all kinds of stuff like that where I'm like, interesting,
even when you go cheaper, it's hard to beat this.
It's really hard to beat the specs. You know.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'm always about value, and I think this car is crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Also, I'm getting a lot of judgment speaking of value.
Really now that I'm like ranting, you've got any of
this side? Now I'm talking about value, I'm getting a
lot of shade from my buddies who own you know,
F two fifties or rab fours or Toyota Highlanders or
all these crazy expensive cars, and they're like they're like, oh,

(28:10):
mister Tesla can afford a Testa And I'm like, bro,
my model, why was way cheaper than your Dodge Ram fifteen.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Hundred Yeah, easily.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
You're trying the sixty thousand dollars truck and I'm not
even talking about the fifteen twenty thousand dollars in gas
You're gonna.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Spend over the life of the easily.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Timing belt l Odyssey needed.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
A timing belt was three thousand dollars to replace the
time every ninety thousand miles, transmission fluid changes and then
obviously oil change because everybody always harps on oil changes.
But we think about it, it's like one hundred bucks every
five thousand miles. It's not actually that, No, it's like crazy,
it's like a couple grand over the But when you
start adding in all that other stuff, or like the
engine failure a wrong right, our little Corolla, like every

(28:57):
mechanic that I've talked to is like, it's the best
car you can buy. It'll run forever, it has no issues.
We had to replace the alternator.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, that was twelve hundred dollars. I hate that. I
hate being in that situation. That's why I was willing
to pay a premium for an EV even if I
meant even if it meant I would never break even,
because I hated the decision where we still have this,
we're still going through this with our old gas car,
where it's like, well, do you want to spend the
money to fix it or do you want to scrap

(29:27):
it buy a new used one, hope that doesn't have
engine problems, and then bed another fork in the road
of it was like a gamble, like do you want
to spend the money to fix it or replace it?
I hated that. I was like, I'd rather spend a
premium to know that I just won't have to make
well decisions.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
And that's what's funny is because you know a lot
of people say that's why they buy new cars, and
then they buy like a new Jeep or something, which,
by the way, I don't know if you know what.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Jeep stands for.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Just empty every pocket because.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
They buy a new Jeep and then it breaks down
within forty thousand miles and they're asking me about, oh, well,
you're worried about the battery pack whatever.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
No, I'm fairly confident you'll put hundreds of thousands on
this before you even need to honestly about the.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Battery the warranty goes to one hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Even if it does that, it would be cheaper than
the maintenance on one hundred thousand miles of another car.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Probably, yeah, because I mean battery pack prices are falling too,
not all, And also is a new battery gonna cost
by then? I think too.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Tesla is gonna get very serious about expanding and doing
better job with their service centers.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I know you've had issues.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
So just they have, you know, the billionaire quirk come in,
yeah and just say fire everybody or downsized by ten percent.
And I get there's the bottom line and all, but
I do think that eventually, if they're struggling to move inventory,
I think you're gonna have to double down on customer experience.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, and I think it'll catch up because honestly, to
Tesla fans are pretty rabid, right, Like they're gonna call
out every single panel gap. Yeah, and so they're kind
of dealing with that. But also the cars are now aging.
We're getting into the you know, normal people have cars
that are seventy nine, ten years old.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right, The more you deliver, the more aging you're gonna
have to see.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
And so they're gonna they're gonna ramp that up. I
really think, I think. And also I think that it
won't be it's not off the table that there's some
third party stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh, as far as service goes authorized repairs exactly, Yeah,
I think that's the future too. That's that's gonna help.
Setting all the parts and owners manuals, repair manuals for
everybody that's gonna help.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'm not super worried about service, and like I said,
one hundred thousand miles, I think it'll go a lot
more than that. The motors are supposed to go a
million apparently, is what he says.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
No, if there's anything that goes wrong that you're gonna
be annoyed to replace, I don't think it'll be powertrain,
er battery. Yeah. I would expect there be some kind
of computer problem or a display problem, and you'd be
annoyed to replace that. But I bet you it'll be
in and out in a day or two. Yeah, it'll
just be Testla's here's what it costs. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

(32:16):
Like we had a seat failure in our first where
I mean the seat functioned, but it just couldn't tell
if there was a person in it, so it just
had to pop up. And because it was within warranty,
I said, well, yeah, of course fix it. But if
it was out of warranty, I probably was just because
all it does is not know if it should buckle
the seat belt or not seat belt. So I was like, well,

(32:38):
just the warrant.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Well to me, to be honest, my Corolla, it be
if I put a bag of groceries, it beeps, right,
I just have the bled anyway, Because what's.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Funny is we had the exact same problem in the Sonata. Yeah,
the seat sensor failed, so it constantly says to buckle
the seatbelt even if it was so I'm like, yeah,
at a certain number of miles here to like, who cares. Yeah,
I'm driving it.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
As long as it works. But my concerns with Tesla
are they have a lot of control over what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's true, like like a new software update, like.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Software updates, Like I'm seeing a lot of people getting
having to pay more to unlock.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Range. Yeah, they started yours will never have that seems
and it is weird.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So I tell I tweeted, I texted you and I
was like, are think you make me do that?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
And you're like, no, not for you. It was one
of those standard range model. Wise, we're physically identical to
this car. They were just two hundred something miles at
full which I see.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Doesn't that seem just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
It's still weird to me as an efficiency guy, I
hate it because I know that you're hauling around all
these extra batteries that do nothing, and I'm like, and
for some people they will never unlock it. Yeah, and
that's just wasted batteries. And I hate knowing that.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's like it's like renting a house and the person's like, well,
for an extra two undred bucks, you can have that
bedroom too, and.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's just like and no one's there. Yeah, no one
is there.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I'd rather just be empty then, and you're just kind
of like, I don't know, just make it.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
All one thing, Yeah, make it all one price. You
should tell your wife that Rivian's now doing the same thing.
Started offering software a lot, so if you want to, yeah,
get complaining. But there is a downside of like not
being able to downgrade the software. So if Tesla did
a software update that you really didn't like, there's just
no way to go back.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Is there anybody jail breaking these.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Or hacking there are? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Sure right
void some kind of warranty, but after a certain number
of miles you probably won't care. But yeah, I've seen
people add acceleration boosts and FSD. Really, you know, it's
totally not Oh yeah, they know how to do it.
That's there's people that have done it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
But yeah, speaking which just maybe one of my last
France here. Sure, FSD is a joke.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'm glad you brought that up before we wrapped up.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
We were nervous the entire time, but we thought, okay,
we can get Maybe we're just old and we're just
nervous because we're old people, and this is, you know,
like too much.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
My car's driving for me.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
And then we did it and it was like, oh,
why it's stopping tense to feet before a stop sign?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah kind of.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It literally added probably fifteen twenty time to just me driving.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, and you have hardware four this is the latest.
Oh really, yeah, you've got the latest cameras the latest computer. Yeah,
it's supposed to be better than mine. Oh really, So
I was gonna ask if you had any complaints about
the car or things that disappointed you. No thing, FSD.
I would never pay for FSD. My friends got to.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Use Tesla and it came with FSD and.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
They don't use it. Really, it's a it's a it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Uh. The only time that you would ever use it,
I feel like is on the highway, but like in
tottom dude, and that's autopilot. But I'll be honest, we
actually don't use autopilot either. I use it just the
regular the first I get the names of it, but
just the first word control and that's perfect for us.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
But so it slows down.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I'm probably like like hopefully the government that's not listening,
but like I want to go quicker a lot of
times than it because it caps you out if it's
if it's a fifty five, yeah it says.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
The auto pilot says your max is.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Sixty, And I'm just like, come on, dude, like I'm
not trying to go eighty.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I'm just you know, if I go in sixty two,
sixty three, sixty at.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Least where we live.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
There's a lot of highways where it's like, dude, this
should be sixty five, but it's fifty.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Five and everybody's going seventy.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Everybody's going seventy and passing us right, and I'm just
going what and so that are?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
But it's cruise control is unlimited. You can set it
to any and so cruise.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So that's the reason. But also, like we.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's pling pongs around a lot. It's so focused on
being perfectly centered between lines, and there's so many places,
at least where we live, where the lines go in
and out and you feel it drift off. And after
my whole pothole story, I was sick of that.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I was like, oh, I'm not experimenting with this anymore.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I don't want to hit something. Thinking well, the autopilot
needed to try to stay in the center of two No,
I'm like, well.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Also, we live where there's a ton I don't know
if this is other places too, but there's a ton
of highways that are two lane. Yeah, And I never
realized until we had the camera. I always edge towards
the out where you know the bumpies are right because
it's it's like this.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, you're really close to other semi trucks.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Especially trucks, and with FSD, it wants you like right
in the middle of the lane. And I'm just like
this is so close for me, Like I want to
have a little bit of space, or like if there's
a center divider at autopilot once it here, yeah, and
I'm just like uh. And so we've just not been
really impressed what FSG or FSD.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
We were not impressed at all. Yeah, it's like takeover.
It was.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
It was I was always taken over. It was asking
me to h and then with autopilot. The other thing
too is if there's an oncoming car or you're on
a curve and there's an oncoming car, it'll it'll figure
and think that coming and I'm like, no, they're in
the other lane. So we just used cruise control, Like
it doesn't add that much for me to have one hand,

(38:42):
Like you gotta have a hand there anyway, right, you.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Got to have a hand there anyway. That's data I
think Tesla will probably never publish. That I think would
be really insightful is how many people don't use oh
that had Like like they talk about how many f
SD miles they've collected. They will never put less how
many miles that are driven by that don't count FSD

(39:07):
because it can only in my opinion, it would only
show bad information. It would probably indicate that eighty to
ninety percent of Tesla drivers are driving themselves right and
tried FSD or tried autopilot and went right, Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
And if and if we're all just guinea pigs for
his ROBOTAXI like, that's fine. And there's honestly, there's people
on Reddit who were like, I exclusively full fulls off driving,
and I'm like, good onion, dude, but my experience has
been terrible.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
There's certain cities where I think it works really well,
especially stop lights, Like we used it in Phoenix when
we went out there, and I had zero intervention drives
in Phoenix because it's literally just a grid of stoplights.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
If it doesn't have to find the perfect and it's
waiting on a light instead of having to check.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
That's always where I had issues. Was it stops on
Oh my god, we have the word. We just live
in stop sign country almost exclusively. Yeah, it's everywhere, and
if you live in stop like country, I think it's probably.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Great, which honestly, even even even normal with that when
it turns green, that's I mean, those are the little
the little things that are just life changing.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Weird about that though, because it's like this is almost
encouraging me to look at my phone.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Oh, I'm definitely.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Well, it's like, well it'll big at me when it
I mean, not.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Just phone, it's like this, you know, yeah, looking at stuff, navigating,
you know, even also doing legal things. But yes, phone.
But it's funny that it's like, don't use your phone
in the car. But then we have this, yeah, right exactly.
I'm like, I wish I could. I wish suits could

(40:49):
be on the background. I swear I won't look.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I'll just listen. It's just suits. I don't need to
see it.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's tracking, it's tracking my eyes anyway. Yeah, just because
my wife wants to watch.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You know, I swear I won't love it.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
They can put a little divider. That's great. Well, that's funny.
I'm glad we kind of agree on that. It'd be
interesting if we didn't.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, and I also see the future of it of
just going if if it was like a ROBOTAXI where
it was just like I plug in the thing and
it just goes and I'm sitting in the back seat
laying down looking at my phone. I probably okay, yeah,
but it's when I'm in the car, I'm just getting
more and more like what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Like, don't you?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah? If you want me to pay attention, I'm going
to judge it, right. Yeah, it's it's the same thing
as like a computer could probably play chess a lot
better than me. Yeah, but I don't want to watch
it play chess. No, that's not fun.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
That's not interesting, and it's not creative, and it's not swag.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
But if you want to play chess, you would rather
play the chess yourself. You wouldn't want to watch the
computer play it for you, right, Which is kind of
what FSD is.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Now, Well, that's true. Yeah, it takes a record out
of it.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
But I think what great drivers have a little bit
of swag to the way that they drive, that's.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
True, little little detailed FSD has zero swag.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
It is like, so okay, we'll just making really really
safety sure and it's just like, bro, like you're taking
me ten minutes longer to get to where I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
What did your wife think was she uncomfortable with it?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Or was she she was uncomfortable just because the car's
driving itself, which I'm willing to get over.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, but but it is just inherently bizarre. It's just
if you've grown up, it's bizarre. It's inherently bizarre. I
was willing to get over that, yeah, but doing it
kind of poorly. I wasn't willing to.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
If I was riding in the car, if you were
driving like FSD, I would be like, buddy, let me drive.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You were like, I'd rather drive for I literally, I'd
rather drive. We'll both be more, especially in my driveway.
Here was how it would perform differently on the same
software version in the exact same area. That really started
making like the first time I used it, it pulled
straight into my driveway and I was like, well that's cool.

(43:09):
Second time we used it, it pulled into my neighbor's
driveway even though I had my home plugged in, and
I was like, the circumstances haven't changed. The lighting hasn't
even really changed. But because it's some large language model,
it's it's doing these unpredictable where I'm like, well, now
it means everywhere I use it, it could do something

(43:29):
that I thought it was. I thought it knew how
to do, and then I'll slowly figure out, oh wait,
never mind, it found out how to not do that.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
And if you're and if you're the entire time going
I should, oh, it's gonna make me take over.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
It's gonna make me take I'm gonna take That's just.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I'm gonna take it over. I'm just gonna do it right.
You're right though, if if it was unsupervised, and you could.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Just if I'm in a rotaxing in the back, I'm
not looking out the window, I don't care what's happening,
it's probably fine. So I get why, and I get
that that's where he wanting to go, right, Like I
remember one of the early things he talked about with
FSD is he was like, would be so cool as
if you drove to work and then your car just
taxi people around and then came back to work at
the end of the day and you could make your

(44:13):
payment m off of it. And I get that genius
aspect of it. But if I'm sitting at the steering
wheel and it's making me take over any millisecond. And
it's like I said, I'd rather just drive if it
was a ROBOTAXI.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I'm sitting in the backseat. Yeah, I'm just chilling like curs.
I'm at the same boat where I'm like, let me know.
When it does that, yeah, I'll be excited. But until then,
it ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Be my eight thousand dollars because it you know, it
just we just ran out of our trial.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
And it ain't gonna be my eight thousand dollars. Did
they offer to like test it for you when you
took delivery? I know there was tough. Interesting because I
know that there were memos going out for Elon that
were like make sure every new customer tries it, And
I was like, that sounds awkward. They didn't even get
in the car with it. They didn't. They were just

(45:03):
like okay, bye, that's like that's more appropriate. They had
more important things to do. It was the kind of
email I saw that. It was like, no one's gonna
do that.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
No one's going to be like, so before you take delivery,
can I get in with you and show you? No. Well,
that's actually one of their selling points at this at
the place right is to say we do things differently.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
You just we take a picture of your idea and
then you get to test drive it.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Right, and so we never sat in a no Tesla
person has ever sat in my car after Like.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
That's that's appropriate, that's better that way. I always loved
the contactless delivery that I was all in favor of,
Like I don't want to talk to anybody, just.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Get That's the other thing is there?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
There's some aspects that are not necessarily car related that
he's revolutionized dealerships. Dealerships don't need to exist, You're right,
except for maybe used cars. But even then that could
be a guy in the back going this is how
much a use car is.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And we I mean we sold our last car on marketplace,
you know, yeah, we just I would rather just direct
to customer, direct to owner, rather than have some middleman
that has to make a problems. Good point, you could
probably get it much cheaper if you just bought it
from the person who was going to give it to
the dealer. Yeah, you get you get a better deal.
They get a better deal, and you get a better deal.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Sure, but yeah, dealerships don't really need to exist.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
And I have friends who work at dealerships. It's just
like that must be a hard conversation.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't, but I'm like, they don't need to exist.
It should be buying anything else. And it's you know,
so that part's antiquated. Uh, you know, test driving not
having it, you know. So there's insurance insurance. Well, after

(46:55):
the debate we had with our car wreck, we had
a debacle with our insurance, so I was ready to
ditch anyways, So we just got the Tesla insurance.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
But it was so easy, dude. I love the way
they let you customize it, like you're deductible and what's covered?
Oh yeah, no other We tried to get insurance quotes
from so many different companies, and none of them let
you do that. It was always just like tell us
all this data and give us your email and give
us your home address, and then we'll give you a
quote later, exactly. And Tesla's was right there. It was

(47:22):
like a calculator exactly. Just switched it around.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Well, and again, insurance dealers really probably don't need to exist.
There's some things in life that you need explain to you,
but there's some things that you just don't.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
They're only they only need to be explained because of
how poorly they're Yeah, it's like if this was simpler,
you would need to hire someone to explain.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
It, or people justifying their jobs or you know, billionaires
trying to line their pockets. So you know, there's a
lot of things that they've kind of revolutionized as a company.
And for sure we can complain about you know, service center,
Like there are things obviously they need to improve, but
you know, between the solar panels and the electric car,

(48:08):
like it was time and it took somebody who was
kind of imagenius who had an exorbitant amount of money
that you know, didn't care about kind of blowing it
and crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
For him.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
And honestly, like when it comes to inventors, like we
romanticized the past. But like Nikola Tesla was nuts. Like
some of his stuff that he said was just a
total bull crap. Like he like his like a lot
of his thoughts on science, and like it was just
like what this is rantings, But we romanticized.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
You know, the current and you know and Thomas Edison
like if those guys had Twitter accounts, oh my god,
imagine off the wall. But that's what it takes a
little bit and a bit of crazy and.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Honestly, like the value is what got me the most.
I'm not I'm not somebody price. I couldn't buy the
first iPhone. It was like eight hundred dollars, which now
which now.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Actually is a stealer. But at the time I was.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Like, dude, I can get a forty dollars flip phone.
Like eight hundred dollars for an iPhone. But when it
you know, when it started to become more of a value,
and then obviously the tech is it was cut the
way above by the iPhone four.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I was just like, well I have to have one,
right right, Well, so much had changed just in that
it took refinement kind of like this. You know, it
wasn't the first Tesla for you or me, but it
was a few years of refinement. You know. The first
iPhone didn't have an app store. Yeah, I didn't have
a front camera. There was all kinds of things you
couldn't do that you could do.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Had the native YouTube app was like the whold of
like the old scene I miss actually the old like
fifties like looking TV.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
That was the better YouTube days. Yeah, back in traditional YouTube.
But anyway, thanks for thanks for sharing your experience. I
love hearing about like that pleasure, the first Tesla, the
first new car experience, and I like to live vicariously.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Never owned a new car before this one, and it's
life changing. Honestly, it's uh, it's not like driving a car.
It's like driving a spaceship or an iPad. Yeah, it's
like driving iPad. That's what it is. Everybody, I feel
like everybody's got ringer phones and we're driving iPads.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
And you fact that we're having conversations like last time
I saw you, You're like, hey, when's YouTube music coming? Yeah?
The fact that we can have that talk about Yeah, which,
by the way, when is that let's go my software?
Have they make it happen?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Bro? I'm ready Yeah, But everybody else is like my belt,
Yeah yeah, I need a new timing about I need
a new The thing that you blew my mind about
was breaks. Oh yeah, why break what you like? And
then we drove in one it's like single pedal driving. Yeah,
we never talked about that. Like single pedal driving is

(51:08):
mind blowing to people.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
To me, it's it feels so like, why why hasn't
it all always should have been this way? Always should
have been this way hardly touched. It's so much more comfortable.
Oh in the that's revolutionary for the trucking industry, Like
how much and over have you seen those like truck
turnouts on big downhills.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
That's because trucks, Oh my gosh, I never thought about
regen with semi.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, and now they can just charge their batteries and
they have break I'm like, that doesn't get talked about.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Enough like that is that is totally difference making for.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Them, massive game changer. I feel like there's way too
much Tesla Tesla bot and ROBOTAXI talk, not enough Tesla
Semi talk. That's that's the kind of stuff that excites me.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
If I'm a company and I like not having electric
or like I just heard that, like Pasadena just got
a whole fleet of Model Wise to be caught, right,
And I'm just like, if you've ever talked to a cop,
they run through hundreds of gallons of gas a day.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Oh yeah, and they got to go fast.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
And those Crown Vics have a million miles on them, right,
they've got to go ultra fast and not only just
like top not usually top speed fast, like instant fast.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Right, That's what electric cars are especially at high speed.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Dude, this thing in chill mode is still makes my
whole family want to throw up. And so it was
so funny because you know, we're on that stream and
one of your followers was like, oh, congrats on getting
the slowest testla, and I'm like, the slowest tesla makes
my wife want to slap me for like, on an
on ramp.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I'm not even doing anything that crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
It's like what you do.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Like in the Bay Area, We're doing an on ramp
and I'm like hitting ninety.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Like and she's like, what are you doing? And I'm like,
I'm just trying to like get on the highway. You'll
accelerate a lot when you don't hear it too. I
think that makes a big difference.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
There's no engine revving, there's no or like you know,
my dad has an old Chevelle, like it's a two speed,
and it's just like.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Right and you'll let off you hear all that, Yeah,
you'll let off this and this. It's like oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
When you're in chill mode in the slow and it's
like my mom and sister are gonna throw up.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And I'm not And I don't even I didn't even
mean to.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I'm just trying to, like you know that. That's a
that's another like difference that they never talked about. It
is like being at a stop signing and going do
I have enough time? I never think that anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, you can make it.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
You can make it unless.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Kill kid. I love your boy.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
I'm supposed to stop here.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Ever, beautiful, Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. But thanks again.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Absolutely my pleasure. It's been a long time coming.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
We've been talking about it for a long time. Get
around to it, because if you have questions for him,
let us know.