Season One Recap: Black Widows

What shocked you the most from our Black Widows? Join us as Brittani and host of the Tales From The Dark podcast, Bob Hicks, dive through the atrocities we discovered from Season One.

Episode Transcript

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This is Tales from the Dark.Hello, and welcome to Tales from the
Dark True Crime. Here with metoday is the host of the Tales from
the Dark podcast, and he isgoing to be interviewing me for what I
thought about season one. Well,miss Bertie thinks for having me first and
foremost, This is Bob. Everyonesay hi to Bob. So let me

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tell you about this journey and howtruly bizarre it was to follow along with
this season and see the various waysthat these black widows either committed these atrocities,
committed these murders, or how theyattempted to get away with it.
That was I think the most eyeopening thing for me of like, you

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really can't oversell some of the stephseas Woman took. And then we had
a handful who I feel like we'rekind of adamant that they were above the
system, Like they didn't seem likethey thought there was any chance they would
ever get caught. Oh yeah,I definitely think they took advantage to the
fact of during the time period thatsome of these were occurring. I mean,

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we had a lot in the eighties, a lot in the seventies,
but especially the earlier ones. Ifeel like took advantage of the fact that
a woman would never do this.This is a very ladylike No exactly,
And that was the one thing thatwas there was like an overarching theme of
we had a handful of these likefim fatals that just really laid it back

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like I'm a beautiful woman. Ican get away with this because no one
would ever suspect that I would killsix people. And if they did,
then even they had the investigators questioninglike are we right to be doing this?
And did she really do this?Well, so that's something we have
to talk about, right because onethink. So I helped write a handful

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of scripts for the season, andI recorded most of them with you.
The police didn't do a phenomenal jobin most of these cases, no,
Like let's talk about Catherine Knight andhow she had been apprehended multiple times and
had gone to the mental facilities,mental hospitals multiple times before she committed her
final act of atrocity, and therewere so many steps that could have been

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taken to in my opinion, perfectthis kind of thing from happening, whether
that be keeping her locked up orkeeping her under monitoring. Yeah, I
think that was A big thing isthere were so many instances where I'm just
like you had her, You hadthe killer in your grasps, and you
let them go for what you know. One bureaucratic reason was Katherine I was

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at the one out of Florida.No, that was the Australian. Yeah,
there was one that was out ofFlorida. And forgive me for not
remembering her name, but she hadthe female lover that she met at the
gay bar and they that they hadsplit up. Um where she was literally
like selling some of her victims thingsat pawn shops under her name Aileen Warness

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Ailie Warnas, That's what it was. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was
so shocked because that was used againsther in court, of course, But
like this man had recently been murdered. There were zero leads on this cold
case, and suddenly things links backto him are popping up in pawn shops
all over Florida, and she's signingher name and presenting her actual driver's license,

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and they she still was getting awaywith it. That was shocking to
me. It's like, man,you'd think you'd at least bring this one
in for questioning and reading some ofthe police reports, like, well,
we had reason to respect this person, this person, all these men and
then they kind of had no choicebut to act at the very end.
And again, I'm not trying togo down law enforcement. I'm a previous

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member of law enforcement myself, Butsome of these things you just read and
you're like, this is common sense. How did you miss this so consistently?
So my first question, what aboutyou or what about the season?
Surprised you the most because there's alot to unpack here, honestly, just
the amount of women that got awaywith it for so long. I mean,
I know we trying to just doveinto that, but that was the

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most shocking part to me. Yeah, because normally you I hate to say
it like this, but you readthese cases like a fairy tale, almost
like you already know the ending,so you think it's going to go a
certain way, and it definitely doesnot. Do you do you want to
know who? What? Okay,So you mentioned reading it kind of like
a fairy tale at the end ofthe season, Leonardo Chin truly, Oh

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my god, when I say Ithought, because at the end of the
season, we kind of started towind down and some of the shock and
awe factor, we're not because youknow it's that's thirty episodes in thirty days.
You are completely engrossed with true crime, and then here's this woman who's
like, hey, my son's goingout to World War two. Yeah,
that's tough. That's that's a horriblething from other to go through. You
know, you have a son goingto warrior worrieds. That's like, I'm

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gonna go instead of writing him letters, yeah, and you know, checking
in on him, making sure he'sokay. It's the fact that she went
to a romani priestess. It wasjust like, yep, you know,
that's what you gotta do. Andshe's like, she's like, okay,
I hear you. Let me letokay, let me rephrase what you just
said. So you told me tokill people, make them into soap and
treats and share them my neighbors.No, that's not at all what I

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said. Well that's what I heard. So that's what I'm gonna do,
and it's gonna keep him protected.Yeah. I was completely floored by because
it was one of those that like, at no point in time in the
story did I guess what was happeningnext, And the fact that like,
had she stopped at three or fourpeople, she was going to get away
with it. It wasn't until itwas getting higher and higher profile and she

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was getting sloppier that she got caught. And there were a lot of cases
like that the season, Like orif you just stopped like two husbands,
they never would have caught you.Yeah, no doubt in my mind.
But you got too addicted to themoney or the fame or the what have
you. Yeah, but that wasthe main theme. Also is most of
these women went after money. Andyou know a lot of people like to

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say money is the greatest evil inthe world and all these other kinds of
things. But they really did getmoney hungry and they just could not stop.
Yeah. Like I hate to sayit, but there's a lot of
times where they could have actually stoppedand they could have probably gotten away with
it, like you said, butthey didn't. They always had to have
more, more money, more everything. So I don't know, I don't

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know what to think of these women. Now I hate to use this term
at all, But did you havea favorite case to cover this semes?
Notorious? And that's a hard Yeah, was there one that you enjoyed covering
more than the than like, doyou have any standouts or are they all
kind of just morphed together into thisabyss. I have two. So the

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one the episode we started with theseason with, which was Katherine Knight.
That was very Her story was verydetailed for me, and it was very
emotionally charged. She had a terriblehistory, a terrible family, and it
just kind of got worse and worseand worse throughout the ears, and I

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was able to actually imagine what itwas like to be in her shoes.
The other most infamous one that Ithink we covered was Belle Gunnis, which
I I know it was a differenttime period, I know. I don't
know if anyone else out there islike me. I had no idea who
Belle Gunnis was until we started doingthis. I never heard her name.

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That was a thing that I wassurprised by when we first got into this
is how many we didn't know well. But then some of these female killers
specifically have notoriety that was on expectKatherine Knight was a big one. I
remember when I was promoting the CatherineKnight episode for you, so many folks
were like, thank God, someoneelse's covering this, This has been covered

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so poorly in the past by XY and Z or hey did you know
this detail? Are people asking,hey, do you have insight on this
particular aspect of the case, AndI was like, what are you talking
about? We didn't even cover that. And the reason we didn't covered this
because it was so far buried underthe layers of the Catherine Knights story.
Yeah. So okay, So Ihave another question. So a handful of

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these women had A and E styledocumentaries or trying I'm sorry crime or true
crime TV or whatever it's called.They had documentaries. Did you find it
hard to research the ones that hadmore notoriety, like to actually get the
story versus what was published. Yes, because I found a lot of times
that, especially this trips that Iwrote, the articles would say the same

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thing over and over and over again, and it was very hard because that
person was more popular or they gotmore searches. It's very hard to find
the other minute details about the case. The other hard thing to find was
the one the ones that were olderin time, So like, yes,
we had another leonarda Think or LucretiaLucrezia Borgia. Yes, that was one

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I was surprised because it didn't.That's the one that had like some royal
connections, right, or her fatherwas the was the pope at some point,
that's right, and the fifteen hundreds. Yeah, So initially when I
was researching that one for you aswell, before you, I think you
wrote the script and I started theresearch. The Catholic Church does not like

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that at all, does not likewhat she did, and does not like
the negative connotations attached to the factthat her father was I remember this one
specifically, is like, man,they're pulling their punches on a lot of
this stuff. Well, the fatherwas a lot of historians believe that the
father was actually the person behind everything. Oh that some people even believe that
luc Ricia herself never even murdered anyoneor had any intention to do so,

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because some some recounts and texts saythat she loved her husband since she was
very supportive, and that she wasjust basically a pawn for her family.
I mean that that time of ourhistory, I could absolutely see that being
a thing. Yeah, everything's buried. And not only that, but her
reputation in particular, yeah, wastainted by the local social people who were

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around them because they were Spaniards.They were Spaniards who came into Italy and
her father gained a position of power, and because he gained that position of
power, the people who were localto the area, the nobles, the
people like that, hated the familyfor it, so they were doing anything
to discredit them. Now what wasactually true? And that I think her

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father and her brother were very sketch. Yeah, well there was a lot
with that story at people. That. That was the thing I was very
surprised about as we dipped our toesinto true crime was the different camps.
Some folks are pro some of thesekillers, and some of them are like
there's either like the conspiracy side oftrue crime, which I didn't know exist.

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I had no idea where they're like, well, hey, did you
hear about the sock and the leftleft shoe bedroom still and it's like the
sock in the bedroom, so whatare you talking about? Well, yeah,
it couldn't the sock was put there, and it couldn't have been put
there by doing. But the dad, I'm like, I have no idea
what is happening? And then youhave to like completely once you hear some
of these like minute details, youlook at them in such a different light,

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like, holy crap, this makesway more sense. No, yeah,
I completely agree. The other oneI want to highlight real quick was
Chessako Cocahi. Yes. So welive in an era right now of internet
dating, e dating, and it'sfunny because like we we met I guess
it would be e dating, butnot in a traditional sense. We met
playing League of Legends, so youknow, so what you should get from

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that is they're very toxic. Yeah. But the thing is, like we
live in a tender bumble. Imean every day I go on a TikTok
and I'm scrolling and I see thesame ad like here's my top favorite pickup
lines to use on men on bumble. And it's like they're like really pushing
the the social dating. And Ithink, you know, with the electronic
internet dat Yeah, And I thinkwith the pandemic, we saw a massive

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rise in that as well, becauseyou couldn't really leave your home. I
think these I think these electronic dating, internet dating, you know, company
as they're trying to chase that samehigh as the pandemic. And what's interesting
is I remember a while ago,the Craigslist killer was all the race.
This guy using you know, Craigslistand it's funny, so like, uh,
certain articles at the time, likewe've never seen anything like this.
We're using the Internet to commit murders. And I'm like, hang on a

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second. We have old lady Chisakohere who was using a Japanese mail in
dating service to find her suitors.And before that, we had Bell Gunnis
who was literally putting ads in theChicago Daily newspaper, yeah, back in
the eighteen hundreds to find her suitorsto come to her farm, and so
she would murder him and feed themto her pigs. Yeah, the what

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do they call personal ads or whatever? Yeah, there's a personal section.
It's just insane to me. Andthe thing with Osako's story was what where
it turned for me that she wasthis cunning, cold person. Was one
of her husbands. They were outto dinner or lunch or something that I
think she had going grocery shopping.They met, She met him for lunch

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and I don't know if this isthe Harley writer or the Honda writer,
but he has a heart attack.Basically they're in the ambulance and they're like,
hey, do you have any otherfamily you want us to contact.
She not only tells them her afake alias, but then like, no,
he has no family, He's justgonna die. It's fine. Well,
what it was even more messed upis they met him. They met

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up with his sister, and hissister also got sick, I believe,
but for that same lunch, andhe wrecked on his Honda because he was
passing out from our something poisoning.It was insane. It stuck out to
me because like that woman became amillionaire, like a Japanese millionaire, which
was I think she was the richestout of all. Well, okay,

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if we if we account for inflation, some of the ones in like villages
three hundred years ago back in theUK, those are probably the richest.
But when it comes to modern times, Jessaco takes the cake for like setting
a goal and accomplishing it with anymeans necessary. Right, I don't know,
because when it comes to sheer numbers, there were a couple that definitely

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outshadowed her when it comes really theperson who made the most money out of
everyone we covered was Bell Gunness.How much do Bell makes? I thought
a multi millionaire for she made eightpoint seven million dollars in Today's money.
And while yes, Jessaco was amillionaire, but it was a millionaire in
yen, and I believe hers wasonly equivalent to one point three million,

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gotcha. Yeah, I don't know. There were so many this season,
and it was just I love theshort form factor because like I'm not,
you know, Billy, I'm nota true crime fan. I said that
from the get go, and Ithink it's because I listened to a lot
of other podcasts who are very They'relong winded, they want to get every
day. She was wearing a bluedress on the second day of autumn.

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That's great. I love setting thescene. I don't have the intention span
for that. And so with yourshow, the way that you kind of
set it up, it's this shortform factor. Here's all the details,
here's no opinions, all facts.Make your mind up. And I was
very I guess, you know,because there's not a lot of folks doing
that in the podcast game. Yousee some YouTubers doing that the short form
factor content, and as like YouTubeshorts TikTok to becoming bigger, we're seeing

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that more and more often. Butfrom a podcast side, I couldn't help
but fall in love with it,so I have to I guess that brings
me my next question, what isdifferent? So, like you know,
the primary Tales from the Dark showfor anyone that may not be familiar,
we cover Cryptid's UFOs, conspiracies,ghoulies, goblins, ghost that's more of
our We are my wheelhouse, Ishould say, and you're more of the

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house you follow just house, whichwhatever I want to call it. How
what is different between that and truecrime? And is there a complete like?
Well, no, I can actuallyanswer that there is a personality shift.
So where where does the true crimeBrittany come from? I don't know
because I've really been trying to thinkabout this after especially after like the first

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season, and I've been trying todo some soul searching when it comes to
why is this working for me?Why did I like this type of form?
Because I was also adamant when weespecially when we first started Tales from
the Dark, that I'm not atrue crime buff I don't really consume true
crime content. As I really startedto think back, I used to consume
a lot of true crime content throughsnapped. Have you ever heard of oxygen

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snapped? No? No? Ifthis has anything to the flowers in the
attic, though, I don't wantto have the conversation. Okay, that's
that's some trauma for another episode.That's the Tales from the Dark trauma episode.
Fair enough, No, but Snappedis this series where they it was
literally women killers who they would documenttheir entire history, with their husbands,
with their boyfriends. They would dobasically what we did in longer form,

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and they would go through and show, like the murder scene, how they
were charged, how they got caught, what caught them. I used to
watch that ends on ends on endsbecause my guardian used to fall asleep to
that show. It is terrifying.It was absolutely terrifying. I'm convinced that
she could actually like murder someone ifshe wanted to. Yeah, But I
used to consume that all the time, and I never really realized how much

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of it really stuck with me untilwe started covering the occasional true crime over
at Tales from the Dark. Wehad a couple episodes. One of them
was the bank robbery. Was that, Oh, yeah, the the art
heist is that we were talking about, Yeah, the art hunt did the
color bomb murders? Yeah, Andthat was in Pennsylvania and then we did

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the there's like a famous art heistthat came through where they pretended to be
cops. And then we did theSmiley Faced Killers. We actually did an
episode that was a YouTube documentary.We haven't done a full episode on that
one yet, but that was theYouTube. Now we talked about it,
Yeah, we we've referenced it.But the that's one that I want you
to cover here on True Crime becauseI kind of swore we did an episode

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about over on Patreon. Maybe Nope, people been asking for it. We
haven't gotten to it yet. WhatYeah, the false memories here then yeah,
well again, I think remember whenwe when we got into the Smiley
Faced Killers for the YouTube channel.I brought it to you from a perspective
of if this is true, thisis one of the biggest cover ups in
modern times when it comes to likeorchestrated murders. Yeah, I don't know.

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I'm really like, I'm really enjoyingTalesman Dark True Crime, and I
have a bunch more questions. Butbefore we go on, I think it's
time for you to unveil season two. What do we got going on for
season two? So season two isgoing to be cannibals. That is what
we're going to cover, Okay,especially considering that we just finished the Jeffrey
Dahmer Netflix adaptation. Yes, Idefinitely as good, sound weird, but

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felt called to do it because itwas fresh in my mind for sure.
But yes, cannibals, well,cannibalism has an historical significant Thank you as
well said we have a long runningjoke overt Tails from the Dark. Word
you know about the historical significance.I think that was the the what the
Steely Bell clan or something. Yes, it was the England, like the

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people who were in breeding and theywere staying in a cave and then they
ate each other. You opened upthe conversation, what, Bob, cannibalism
has historical significance, and I'm like, what did you just say? Because
you wanted me to type into thehistory of cannibalism, I wasn't. I
wasn't prepared for that at all.I'm excited for this, so naturally you're
gonna cover Jeffrey Dahmer. But there'salso one thing that I'll say is over

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at patreon dot com slash Tails fromthe Dark. We had kind of announced
us a little early, yes,and I was surprised what the amount of
folks were like, Hey, yougotta cover this, you gotta cover this,
this, you better cover this story. And I had never heard of
half of these guys, and I'mlike, man, this is actually really
intriguing. I really want to getto the bottom of some of these stories.
And what I'm really excited for isthe season two recap is doing a

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contrast between season one and season two. I agree, That's what I'm looking
forward to. So we have Cannibalscoming out, that's it's gonna be.
It's gonna be an interesting season tosay, absolutely, So are you planning
the same thing thirty straight days shortform factor or are we doing bi weekly?
What's Is there anything changing? Sothough there's nothing changing, it's gonna
be the same. I believe it'sgonna be October fifteenth through November fourteenth.

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Okay, it's either thirty or thirtyone days. I can't remember which one
we decide, but it will bethe same run through Halloween, so you
guys will get enough spoopy content foryou. But yeah, nothing is hardly
changing this episode or this season.It's going to be week our daily uploads
and then we'll still do the seasonrecap and then the marathons at the end
as well. Okay, perfect,So we have the when's the second half
the marathon's coming out? The secondhalf the marathon is going to come out

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Friday this Friday, So over fourteenthis when the second half of the marathon's
going to come out. First halfis already out, and then season two
will premiere the following day on Octoberfifteenth, Saturday. Okay. Also,
I'm looking forward to this. Ihaven't done any research just yet. When

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it comes to the cannibal side,we have we have our you know,
our groundworks down, we know whowe're covering. We thoughts about as far
as we've gotten so far. SoI'm gonna be very interested to see where
this season takes us. And again, just how is it going to be
different? You know, what's what'sthe takeaway from Black Widows? Is there
any kind of overarching because technically wecould have had some cannibalism and with the

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girl who was turning stuff into thetea cakes, but that was the only
one that was really cannibalistic. Ithink that we covered this season, right,
Yeah, I don't think we reallywell know Katherine Knight, Katherine Knight,
she attempted to eat but then itwas thrown into the backyard. You
remember, gotcha? Yeah, yeah, no, I remember that. Yeah.
So I think the other thing I'mI'm really looking forward to is the

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fact that a lot of the cannibalstories I know we have lined up or
from different parts of the globe thatwe haven't covered yet. And that was
one thing I think that really surpriseda lot of listeners early on was that
on purpose was not like a happyaccident that we opened the season with an
Australian zerial killer that was a happyaccent. We recorded multiple episodes before the
start day of season one. Yeah, and that was the one that I

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was like, Okay, this isthis is the banger, this is the
one we're going to start with.And again like that was that was one
that I just felt like had sucha good line, It was a story
to tell, and it was horrible. It was atrocious, but I think
it kind of captured the overall themeof season one. I think it kind
of showed listeners like, hey,this is what you should anticipate, this

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is what to expect out of therest of this season. I agree.
So let's kind of rewind a littlebit and talk about Grisilda Blanco. Okay,
So that woman. So we wereinformed that there is an upcoming Netflix
series about her, but I didnot know the attachment that she had the

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Colombian Jog cartel. Yeah. Yeah, And what was interesting is I did
a little bit of research after theepisode came out, and there were ex
cartel and forces who were like,we were afraid of her, yep.
And that's what shockmulated, Like,Yeah, she would come in the room,
we'd all go silent, and they'relike, these are men who were
slaughtering neighborhoods, and they're like,yeah, we didn't want anything to do

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with her because we knew once shegot mad, that was it. Like
there was there was no apology bigenough in the world to get us out
of it. Yeah. That wasa definitely a change in pace when it
came to our Black Widows. Washaving someone from the cartel come through on
that line. Yeah. I reallyenjoyed her story as well, because it

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was one different, It was anice change in pace, but two,
she was ruthless and insane. Itdidn't matter what you did, It did
matter who you were. If shewas on a rampage. Everyone's dying,
everyone's paying for it. And youknow what's even crazier about her is the
sexual assault on both men and women. She would force them to do drugs

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just to sleep with her, andthen it would continue on and if you
didn't, you know what happened.Yeah, there was another one, Marjorie.
Sorry Marjorie an orban that woman.When you talk fim fatale, that
has got to be at the topof your list, right because she was

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a model, she was a dancer, she was a stripper, and she
kind of had all these different avenuesof money making and yet still relied on
someone else. Yes, and thefact that it's still you had this season
had people from all walks of life, people that were completely you know,
in extreme poverty, had no optionbut to murder, and then continued then
people who had a million opportunities knockingat the door, and they still ended

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up at the same place because ofyou know, the same crimes. What's
weird about Marjorie is the fact thatwe were just in Vegas and then we
came back and we covered her andI was like, man, what is
going on? Because I could actuallysee some of the places that you know,
we're referenced, and while researching herand I'm like, really glad I

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didn't go there, really glad thatwe didn't do this. Well, there
was another one and I don't Ican't remember the woman's name. I'm terrible
as a as a host here,but it was the woman in Chicago who
claimed that she was getting visions,she was getting a premonition of who was
going to die next, but inactuality, she was just killing them.

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Yeah, she was just straight upmurdering them. That that one shocked me.
Yeah, Tilly Clemic, Yeah,Tilly was a weird one because it
was she also the one who waslike pre ordering her husband's casket. Yes,
yeah, yeah, she wasn't.I don't think she was from Chicago
though I thought she. I thoughtthat you got be located to Chicago.

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No, I'm pretty sure that wasone in like a small England town.
You might be right, but likeI said, she like pre ordered her
husband's casket. Who then the landladywas like, no, you can't keep
his casket in the basement, andthen she was taunting him. Gotcha like
that? That was just like,yeah, yeah, it's like, what

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is wrong with these people, Ican't bring myself to pretend to understand what
is going through their mind. I'msurprised you haven't brought up Betty yet.
Betty. You knew Betty Lou Beatsfrom North Carolina, which remind me that
was the one who she killed herhusband on her land and then said that

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he took his boat out. That'sright, that woman. Yeah, she
also involved her children, her adultchildren at that point, to help her
cover up the murder. And inthe I think it was the son said
that he didn't know what she wasdoing, but it was kind of common
sense. And again that's a caseof something we talked about over on Tails
from a Dark pretty frequently, thatsmall town mentality. Everyone knows everybody,

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and so when the attempted cover upoccurred, everyone's like, that doesn't sound
right, this doesn't make any AndI think he was like a retired fireman
of like twenty thirty years, andit's like, you wouldn't think that you
would that thought in your head thata retired fight or fighter would have S
and R or search and rescue friendswho would be like, hey, we
didn't find nobody. A bass fishingtournament was happening. No one saw anything.

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This doesn't make sense. Yeah,in a river too, Like,
I know some rivers are pretty intense. I think this river led into a
lake. Like it's like, it'slike, what were you thinking. It's
not you know, lake lock nest. That they're not going to drain like
they're going to try and find thisdude's body, especially because he was a
like a figurehead in the community.Yep, I don't know. There were
so many like and that was thething that they started to kind of blend

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together until they didn't. You know, you would have three or four that
were like kind of the same orthe same along the line of the story,
and then you would have a GrisildaKa pop up and you're like,
waiting on a second, this chickis responsible for Pablo Escobar? Are you
serious? I don't know. Ireally enjoyed this season. So I guess

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my only last question that I havefor you is do you already have season
three planned? I think you'd haveto go over to Patreon to find that
one out, and because that onewon't be released for a little while.
Yeah, And again I only askbecause I kind of know how you operate.
You're always a few steps ahead andalways thinking about what the you know,
It's like a chess game. You'realways what move you know is going

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to win me the game? ButI'm interested, like where do you go
from here? And it's interesting becausethe only true crime case that personally I
was never really attached to was onethat occurred in my hometown, which we
have discussed over on Patreon. Butwhat was interesting is I kind of thought
I was alone in the whole,like how I felt during some of these
crimes because they were in my hometown. No, that's not the case at

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all. Everyone kind of felt thesame with a lot of these black widows
like I, she was a goodwoman. I'd never expected this out of
her. She's killing sixteen people inher bathtub? What are you talking about?
It was a bizarre turn of eventswith a lot of these and I
love some of the presentations were you, well, this is who she is.
She's a sweet old lady, she'sjust kids. Also the queen of

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poison and you're like, how doyou even get a nicknamed the queen of
poison? The last one I reallywant to talk about is Amy Archer Gilligan.
That was that was the one thatshe was running the nursing home and
it was basically a slaughterhouse. Yeah. Yeah, that was the woman who
they called her the female doctor deathover on four Chances. Well, so

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a lot of people don't know this, who may listen to just tales in
an art true crime, but we'reactually recording in documentary. We just finished
up recording a documentary that will beout at the end of October. But
um, it's basically at It's RandolphCounty in Silent Over in Indiana, Indianna.
Yes, thank you, But itwas so it was so weird doing

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that episode, hearing about this homefor the elderly, home for the impaired
and filming a documentary inside one ofthose facilities, and then coming back and
like, oh yeah, like sixtyplus people allegedly were murdered here, all
at her hands. It's like,what actually happened in the place that we're
in right now? What did weget ourselves into? Exactly? Well,
Brittie Alexai, I love the show. I love what you're doing. I

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can't wait for season two. Whereare you going to leave us? I
Men'll leave you guys with If youwant ad free episodes, head on over
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get you access to not only addfree episodes, but a whole munch more
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We have so much more over atTales from the Dark podcast as well,

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where we explore everything high strangious.So I have to ask you now
to so it's weird. So thisis the last thing I want to say,
is very bizarre. Is a fewyears ago coined this phrase at the
end of my YouTube videos and tohear you say the phrase. And I
saw a couple people over at theTales of the Dark Facebook group common on

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this that it almost felt unnatural tohear you say my catchphrase because I was
thinking about how many times and Iwas adding up Patreon over two hundred and
fifty times people have heard me say, I think we're gonna have to add
this. Our season one, recaptwo are never ending, but are always

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growing Tales from the Dark. Seedoesn't that just it's so bizarre because when
we flip the script, you sayTales from the Dark at the very end,
and so I don't really know howto feel about that. I'm very
excited. I'm very happy. Butit's like when you watch yourself on video
for the first time, like you'relike, what is actually happening? What

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is going on? I said,this doesn't make any sense to me,
But no, I love the show. I love what you're doing, miss
Brittany, and I want to seewhat happens next because this is one of
those things where I didn't anticipate howwell you put things together. And again
that's that's a huge compliment because thisis a huge undertaking, Like you went
from how everyone views you as aco host. Not only are you gonna

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run your own show, but you'regonna run a solo So congratulations on the
end of season one. I'm extremelyproud. I know everyone else that's listening
is extremely proud of you. Wecannot wait to hear season two. More