April 25, 2025 • 44 mins
In this episode of Tales, Trails, and Taverns, Joe returns from the haunted heart of the Lowcountry to tell Rob all about his chilling adventure through Charleston, South Carolina.
From the dark corridors of the Old City Jail to the haunting echoes of the Provost Dungeon beneath the bustling streets, Joe dives into the deep history and legends that swirl through one of America’s oldest cities.
He also takes us beneath the sprawling branches of the ancient Angel Oak—one of the oldest living trees east of the Mississippi—and recounts a strange, unshakable encounter he believes might have been a brush with a spirit from Gullah folklore.
Was it the Boo Hag? Or something even older? Tune in for tales of ghostly prisoners, buried secrets, ancient oaks, and folklore that refuses to fade. This is Charleston as you’ve never heard it before.
From the dark corridors of the Old City Jail to the haunting echoes of the Provost Dungeon beneath the bustling streets, Joe dives into the deep history and legends that swirl through one of America’s oldest cities.
He also takes us beneath the sprawling branches of the ancient Angel Oak—one of the oldest living trees east of the Mississippi—and recounts a strange, unshakable encounter he believes might have been a brush with a spirit from Gullah folklore.
Was it the Boo Hag? Or something even older? Tune in for tales of ghostly prisoners, buried secrets, ancient oaks, and folklore that refuses to fade. This is Charleston as you’ve never heard it before.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In the dark forest lines, the secret told in broken
stories by those who have bore witness a monster, a murder,
a long forgotten ghost town shrouded in mystery. We're not
just here to uncover these stories. We're here to walk
the haunted pads, seek out the restless spirits who linger
in these forsaken places, and we want you to come along.
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Welcome to tails, trails and taverns, where curiosity defy his caution.
We venture into the eerie trails, the abandoned ghost towns,
and the old taverns where echoes of the past still
cling to the air. These are the places others might
warn you not to go to. So lace up your boots,
grab a work and flashlight, and join us together. We'll
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tell the tails, hike the trails, and raise a glass
of the spirits, both spectral and distilled, who wait for
us at the tavern's door.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh oh, so, like I was saying, so the North
Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ye, the Canes. Yeah you know, dude, I lived in
North Carolina for ten years.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Bro all right, bro, well, I didn't know you if
you were a hockey guy. So when they score a
goal that North Carolina eating Pablo song plays.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, so right before.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The Tampa Bay, Florida Panthers game started, like it was
the end of the fucking.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The cover Canes the Canes game, and like they scored
the empty.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Netter and there was like, no, I like, the whole
fucking stadium's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was like, that's pretty fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That is pretty cool. There's a little bit of a resurgence.
That was an old song.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh yeah, dude, that was when I was like a
senior in high school.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I was back in early two thousand. I remember
that North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Comona bazel.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Bro. All right, yeah, so anyways, welcome back to another
episode of Tails, Trails and Taverns. I'm gonna I'm gonna
leave that. I'm gonna leave that part in there.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Do you checked yourself?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Me and Robert just talking about how kids love eminem
these days for some.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Reason because he's a he's a goat.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Like he was saying, we listened to when we were kids,
So why wouldn't our kids still listen to him?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Bro? Kids?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Like all right, little side note, like kids, my daughter
says that kids are obsessed with nineties culture.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh my god, dude, my son listens to the Food Fighters, Uh,
the Offspring, fucking Bush, you know, all those nineties bands.
I got a nineties, nineties and two thousands playlist.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
He hits it up all the time, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
My daughter is like, she'll like put on corn Freak
on a Leash and I'm like, how the hell do
you even.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Know that song?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
She's like, because it's awesome, right, or like she loves
rob Zombie like Dragula.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Now, my kid listened to Robs on me too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, it's like so much so that like for her
Easter present, she wanted like retro Jordan's Seven's military blue. Yeah,
and I'm like those were popular in like ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She's like, they're popular now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Hey, just saying those shoes are almost thirty years old.
That's pretty fucking cool that they're still popular.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I know. Right, my kid's got a couple like the
Champion T shirts and stuff too, Like you know, oh,
Style's coming back. I'm still waiting for Varney to come back,
but I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Dude. I remember the second grade wearing the clothes backwards
like criss cross.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The second grade.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, I was probably I was probably middle school that's funny.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Do you remember those La gears? Yeah, light up.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh yeah, the light up shoes. Man, they were the coolest.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Fuck yeah, fucking nineties were great, man.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
The nineties were great. Man.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, I guess it kind of makes sense because
when we were kids, I remember being obsessed with like seventies.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, sixties and seventies, the music, the style.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yep, we weren't uh yeah, we were not obsessed with
what was going on in the eighties, even though we
were living in the eighties. And now people will look
back on it and then the nineties, obviously we just
did nineties shit.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And also we listened to the music and we're like, yeah,
it's good, it's just not as good as the ship
they put in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And now I listened to the ship in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Like, nineties music is fucking the tops, Okay, it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Like I look back, Well, No, what I'm trying to
say is, at the time when I heard it, I'm like,
it's good, but it's not Pink Floyd.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's not like Sabbath, it's not zapp Bline.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But now I listen to it and I'm like, fuck man,
the nineties had great fucking music and we didn't even
know it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I have no idea at the time.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No idea how was fucking great and impactful that music
would still be to this day.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, man, it certainly is.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So this is not a show about Nostala.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Just not a show about the nineties.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Although we could make a show about the nineties someday.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Just we can. I've heard some people have done some
shows about the nineties, but who knows who knows of those? Yeah,
we'll think about it. But anyways, so one of the
first things I wanted to say was, as we're going
on here, we did get some ratings on Spotify. Thank
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you guys. We are nowaday five star rating Spotify. So
that should help, I should help produce our numbers up.
You know, we could definitely get more ratings. I think
it's like four at this point, but it's it's five stars.
So everybody, thank you for I don't know who you are,
but thank you. You have my eternal gratitude.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
We're gonna pop a bottle of champagne over that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'm gonna pop a bottle of yingling Light Lagger over
that because That's what I've got on hand. What else? Man?
We are counting down the days to Para Con to Penhurst,
Pera con Man and uh checking out Gettysburg on the
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way there. We've got uh, we've got our all the
stuff we're gonna need to go there. We got business
cards coming in T shirts and hoodies for us to
wear while we're there, with the QBR code printed on
the back so people can see us standing there and
check it out. Get all our get all our info
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right off of us. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna
be a fun time, right. I can't wait to get
back out there again.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh man, I'm so psyched.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Do you know any other those podcasts that have clarified
that they will definitely be going.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I haven't. I haven't heard yet. Man. I keep asking
everybody if anybody's going. I'm sure our friend there. Uh
what was it, Haunted Raven? Yeah, spring He will definitely
be there.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I hope he's out there because there's a hospital, a
massive hospital is Springfield that I want to urban explore.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, and I'm sure he'd be down to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He's been doing he's been hosting some some paranormal investigations. Dude,
have you checked that out yet?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The only problem is a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Are like like in Maryland or like Indiana.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, I think one of them was in Ohio or
something like. He's doing he's doing big stuff. So good
for good for him. Man, Hey, if you hear it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh, yeah, he's doing big stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It's it's just they're so fucking far away.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's like a kind of like a commitment almost, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, So hey, man, if you uh, if you do
a little closer here, we'll get into it. We might
just have to make the field trip one of these times,
get out there and do all of those paranormal investigations
with them.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Fucking right, dude, I'd be.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Down, yeah, man. And uh what else?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Instagram's booming eighty seven thousand followers.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Boom boom boom and climbing.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Bigger and better us climbs every day. Man, It's ridiculous.
It's awesome, absolutely awesome. I love it. I love everybody
who shows up. And then I've been going through and
I message probably about ten or so people a day.
Just give them a little greeting, give him a little
link and Uh. So, you know, if you're one of
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those ten people, if you're one of those people who
received a link from me or like a greeting from me,
just know that that is from me. That is not
a bot, that is not a service, that is not
a subordinate, that is me contact you, because I feel
like sometimes I do that and people respond and I'll
start talking to them and they're kind of surprised that
somebody with that many followers is talking to them. I have.
(09:36):
I had one guy say like, oh my god, you're famous.
Like now, man, it's just it's just me. Like, I'm
not not famous, dude, just a guy likes tell ghost stories,
you know what I mean, right, Like, it's it's just me, man.
I don't have a marketing we don't have a marketing
department or anything. It's just it's just it's just me
and Rob out here grinding, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So a marketing department, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But uh yeah, this week, man, I took it back
to I took it back to the time that I
took it back to the time that I visited Charleston,
South Carolina, and I got to go in a little
bit of ghost door and had a weird experience after
going there. So after the break we'll get into that. Man,
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do you love haunted places, creepy legends, and abandoned ruins
and join us every Friday on Tales, Trails and Taverns.
Each week we hiked eerie forgotten spots, dig into their
dark history and share spine chilling ghost stories, plus what
it's like to visit the places where those tales began.
From a haunted forest to ghost towns, we explore the
stories that linger the shadows. You can find Tales Trails
and Taverns on Apple, Spotify, our Heart Radio, and just
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about anywhere you listen to podcasts. So lacepp your boots,
grab a working flashlight, and tune in for an adventure
into the unknown. All right, So back in twenty thirteen,
something's happened in my life. I got married one of them,
and after that marriage, we went on a honeymoon. We
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went to Charleston, South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And never been but I always wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It is gorgeous and it is worth going, absolutely, so
we went. It was end of March, beginning of April
and the place was magnificent. So if you don't know,
Charleston is a city in South Carolina. It was established
in sixteen It was founded in sixteen seventy. So Charleston
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is an old city.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You can say that again.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And I don't remember exactly why the name changed from
Charlestown to Charleston. It had something to do with King
Charles and them not wanting to be associated with them
at some point. And I think it had something to
do with slate the slave trade. I'm not really sure.
I don't I didn't look that story up, but I
do remember parts of it. Oh, Carly that Charleston has
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a population of one hundred and fifty eight thousand plus people,
So it's pretty good sized, pretty good sized city.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is it the capital of South Carolina?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I don't think so. I think the capital of South
Carolina is Columbia. But don't quote me on that, Okay,
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It's in It's an inland city.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, Yeah, Charleston's on the coast.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh, it's on the coast, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, Charleston is a is a coastal city. It's a
harbor city.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And so, like I said, I went, I went to
Charleston from a honeymoon back in twenty thirteen, beginning of April,
and it was awesome. It's down by the water. We
spent some time downtown down by the water. And it's
been a while, so I'm not going to be able
to tell you exactly where we went as far as
like restaurants or bars or whatever. But at first, let's
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step off the bustling Charleston streets and onto John's Island,
just about twelve miles from the Ashley River. Here, nestled
in a quiet grove, stands a living legend, the Angel Oak.
Have you ever heard of this?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Never?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So apparently this is a this is a big enough deal.
Where when I didn't know about it when I went
down there, but my ex wife she knew about it.
I wanted to see it, and it was. It was awesome.
Sou Locals just call it the tree. And once you've
seen it, you'll understand why. The massive Southern live oak
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is estimated to be anywhere from four hundred to five
hundred years old, making it not only the oldest living tree,
the oldest living thing in South Carolina, but what the hell?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Sorry uh, making it not only the oldest living thing
in South Carolina, but one of the oldest east of
the Mississippi, towering over sixty five feet tall with limbs
that sprawl one hundred and sixty feet across.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Damn, this ancient giant cast a shade that covers over
seventeen thousand square feet of ground. And I mean when
I tell you, dude, it's massive. Like the trunk is huge, right,
and then the big the big branches. I don't have
you ever seen a live oak? Do you know what
a live oak is? Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
If you explained it to me, I could probably.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So it kind of it does. It spreads out wider
than it is tall, like this one says. It's sixty
five feet tall and one hundred seaty feet across. And
it basically the branches towards the bottom start to go
out instead of up, and they almost some of them
actually go back out and they touch the ground and
then start to grow back up again. So it's it's
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very low and wide, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Are they native to where we live? Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Not up here? No, But this is more of a
second thing. Probably island, right, Guaranteed we saw live oaks
at Paris Island, Okay, because this is the same area. Yeah, Yeah,
Beuford's not that far from Charleston.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Okay, So then if I saw it, i'd probably know.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, if I set you a picture of it, you'd
be like, oh that, yeah, I know what that is.
So it's like something out of a fantasy novel. Trunks
so heavy that they rest on the ground, limbs twisted
and stretched with the weight of centuries. Very nice. The
earliest known record of the land dates back to seventeen seventeen,
when it was granted to a man named Abraham Waite.
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The property remained in his family for four generations, and
eventually the land became part of a marriage settlement between
Martha W. T. Angel and Justice Angel, giving the tree
its enduring name. Today, the Angel Oak is owned by
the City of Charleston and is free to visit, standing
proudly as the centerpiece of a public park. But Angel
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Oak isn't just a tree. It's a survivor. Over hundreds
of years, it's withstood earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, and the steady
creep of human development. Through all of it, it remains
a sentient of the past, whispering its silent stories to
the breeze that rustles its ancient leaves. If you're in
Charleston during the summer fall, you might even catch one
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of the cultural events held beneath its branches, like the
Evening under the Angel Oak series or performances during this
Spiletto Festival. I don't know what that is, but even
without the festivities, standing in its presence is kind of
an experience all its own. It's quiet, it's humbling, it's timeless,
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so very cool place to visit. You can walk all
around it. You can kind of climb up on some
of the lower branches, you know, I don't I think
they would frown upon you climbing all the way up
to the top sixty five feet up, but standing us
on the lower branch is definitely cool. We had a
we had a dog with us.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I definitely think climbing that would be frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But it's free to visit. There's a ton of people there.
It was absolutely awesome. I don't remember where the pictures
are that we took when we when we were down there,
but they're probably somewhere. It was very, very cool. So
obviously there's a lot of history in Charleston, South Carolina. Says,
you know, sixteen seventy long long city's been there for
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a long time. Oh yeah, let me take it to
downtown Charleston, a city that's practically dripping with history, charm,
and yes, ghost stories. If there's one place in Charleston
that has built the historical gravitas and the eerie reputation match,
it's the Dock Street Theater. I don't remember exactly when
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we went down and saw this, but it's one of
those places where it's in Charleston. We definitely saw it
at some point, you know. Now, this a building has
been through a lot. Originally constructed in seventeen thirty six
as a warehouse, it wasn't until nineteen thirty seven that
it took on its now famous role as a theater.
And while audiences have flocked there for for decades to
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enjoy plays, music and performances, many have left with more
than just a memory of the show. Strange occurrences and
chilling encounters have earned this venue a solid spot in
the list of the most haunted places in the South.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
One of the most famous spirits said to roam the
aisles is that of Neddie Dickerson. Neddie was an actorctress
of the nineteenth century and her story ends in tragedy,
collapsing and dying on stage mid performance. Some say she yeah,
some say she's never left Theatergoers and performers alike have
seen her spectral figure appearing during shows, as if she's
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taking her final bow, which she did at one point. Apparently.
Then there's Junius Brutus Booth, an accomplished actor in his
own right, and yes, the father of John Wilkes Booth,
the man who assassinated the President Lincoln. Oh shit, didn't
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see that twist coming to do?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Did you know? I mean you knew John Wilkes Booth
was an actor, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I did?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And did you know his father was an actor too?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean I didn't do much homework on John wilkeson So.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now, okay, So Junius has been spotted in the dressing rooms,
perhaps still rehearsing lines in the afterlife. His ghost is
said to linger in the shadows backstage, a true performer
until the end. But it doesn't stop there. The visitors
have reported disembodied voices echoing through the empty theater, flashes
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of movement in the balconies, cold spots that settle without warning.
There's something about the dock Street Theater that feels active,
like the walls themselves are listening. So, whether you're there
for a show, history tour or maybe just chasing chills,
the Dock Street Theater delivers ghost stories or not. One
thing's for sure. This Charleston landmark holds centuries of drama,
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both on and off the stage. Okay, So the next
part that I want to next place in Charleston that
I wanted to talk about is the Old Jail. And
for this one, I'm just gonna read the article that
I take directly from the National Park Service website. So
that's www dot NPS dot gov.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Okay, and.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So location its twenty one Magazine Street, Charleston, South Carolina.
The Old Jail Building served as the Charleston County Jail
from its construction eighteen oh two until nineteen thirty nine.
In sixteen eighty, as the city of Charleston was being
laid out, a four acre square of land was set
aside at this location for public use. In time, a hospital, poorhouse,
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workhouse for enslaved people fleeing bondage, and this jail were
built on the square. When the jail was constructed in
eighteen oh two, it consisted of four stories, topped with
a two story octagonal tower. Charleston architects Barbett and Sale
were responsible for eighteen fifty five alterations of the building,
including a real rear octagonal wing, expansion of the main building,
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and the Romanesque revival details. This octagonal wing replaced a
fireproof wing with individual cells designed by Robert Mills in
eighteen twenty two, five years earlier than his notable fireproof building.
The eighteen eighty six earthquake badly damaged the tower and
top story of the main building, and these were subsequently removed.
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The old jail housed a great variety of inmates. John
and Lavinia Fisher and other members of their gang were
convicted of robbery and murder and were imprisoned here in
eighteen nineteen and eighteen twenty. Some of the last nineteenth
century high Sea pirates were jailed here in eighteen twenty
two while they awaited hanging. The jail was also active
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after the discovery of Denmark Vessey's planned uprising in eighteen
twenty one. He formulated a plan to win freedom for
the enslaved people of the city, but the authorities were
informed of the plot before it could take place. In
addition to several hundreds of enslaved and free African Americans
jailed for their involvement, four white men were also convicted
of supporting the plot. Vessi spent his last days in
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the tower before being hanged. I think I remember this
one because I remember hearing a lot about hangings in
a jail. I mean, keep in mind that, you know,
I went to Charleston twenty thirteen. This is what twelve
years ago?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Thirteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, so I'm going on sheer memory here.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I'm also you're doing good.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm also almost two ynglings in too, So that's when
it gets good. So increased restrictions were placed on free
and enslaved African Americans in Charlestown as a result of
the Vesi plot, and law required that all black sailors
be kept here while they were in Port. Well that's
fucked up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
During the Civil War, Confederate and Federal prisoners of war
were incarcerated here. It is one of more than fourteen
hundred historically significant buildings within the Charleston Old and Historic District.
Fourteen hundred buildings in Charleston. Jesus, holy shit, that's a
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lot of buildings in one place in one city, is
it not?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh it did, that's all.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It sounded like a high number. Holy shit.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And this was what Civil War era.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
This was built in early eighteen hundreds, so this is like,
uh War of eighteen twelve and up.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Very thickly settled.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So yeah, it was. It's there, you know, it was
definitely there during the Civil War. But all right, So
the next place I want to talk about is the
Old Exchange and Provis Dungeon. And so for this one,
I've got an article from Historic Charlestown Charleston dot com
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and this details it all pretty well. So the Old
Exchange and Provis Dungeon, built in seventeen seventy one, reflected
the wealth and importance of Charlestown Charles then as a
bustling and prosperous seaport. The building has been a Charleston
landmark for almost two hundred and fifty years, and today
is a nonprofit historic site focusing on the American Revolution
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in colonial Charleston. It's over two hundred fifty years now.
Who was this fucking this must have been written a
few years ago. Seventeen seventy one is over two hundred
fifty years now.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
During the American Revolution, British forces used the basement of
the buildings as a military prison, also called provst Or Dungeon.
This is where it gets his name from. This space
was used to house American prisoners of war, British soldiers,
and enslaved individuals. In seventeen eighty eight, the Exchange hosted
South Carolina leaders has debated and approved the US Constitution. Today,
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the Old Exchange building is one of only four structures
remaining where the nation's founding document was originally ratified, one
of four.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
In seventeen ninety one, George Washington spent a week in
Charleston on his Southern tour. The Exchange was the site
of lavish dinners, concerts and a fancy dress ball attended
by Washington. Today, visitors to the Exchange and Proves Dungeon
could view the Half Moon Battery, the only standing portion
of the original Charlestown City Wall open for public viewing. Okay,
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that's pretty impressive. Admission to the Old Exchange includes a
self guided exhibition on the top two floors of the
building and a twenty five minute guided tour the bottom
floor cellar otherwise known as the Provinces Dungeon. Most visitors
spent between forty five minutes and an hour on site,
though guests are welcome to take as much or as
little time as they like exploring the self guided exhibition.
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So that was obviously a very good and formative article,
but it didn't detail any of the ghost stories. So
I found another article, Charleston Haunted Story. This is from
Jasper Charleston dot com and goes into the spooky sightings
and the ghosts of this place, same place, huh, in
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the spirit of Halloween. And I also agree with that
because we hear at tilS, trails and taverns like to
go with the Halloween essence all year.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Long, So Halloween is where it's at people.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's right. We are sharing a paranormal legend rumored to
haunt one of Broad Street's historic buildings. For centuries, the
Old Exchange in Province Dungeon has been infamous for sightings
of the ghosts reported to haunt its hallways. Located on
one twenty two Bay Street, the elegant Georgian building is
what some locals describe as a burdened basement. Interesting when
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you put it, guests have claimed to see glimpses of
ghosts throughout the hallways of the building, and have reported
hearing the shocking screams of long dead dungeon prisoners. Before
how the beautiful building was constructed, The site belonged to
the Half Moon Battery, a center for trade in Charleston,
which held a prison underneath. Pirate legends like Blackbeard and
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Steed Bonnet, who threatened the safety of the colonists in
the seventeen hundreds, were kept locked away in this infamous dungeon.
There we go, That's what I was just going to see,
Old Blackbeard, mister teach himself. By the end of the century,
the demand for trade created an opportunity to build the
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Old Exchange to support the facilitation of business in the
port city. The Charleston Landmark was a commercial exchange, post office,
city hall, and custom house. In the twentieth century, the
Daughters of the American Revolution saved it for preservation, and
it became a historical museum in the nineteen eighties. The
Old Exchange's true legacy is predominantly due to its premier architecture,
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influenced by a Georgian Palladian my god, a Georgian Palladium motif.
Its beauty and design and find materials make it one
of the most important buildings from the American colonial era. However,
museum visitors have come close to a countering what is
believed to be spirits of prisoners of the Provosts Dungeon,
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people have claimed. People have claimed to see dancing orbs here, screaming,
and feel chilling cold breezes that could belong to some
of the pirates who are trapped blow street level in
the Haunt of Prison. Although some locals will say it's
a fable, you will have to visit the old Exchange
and Proves Dungeon yourself to find out the truth. And
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the rest of it goes on about about visiting Charleston
in Halloween and it was definitely cool visiting there in
the spring? Is that actually right about? Well a little
early in this time, a little earlier in April. So
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now I get back to, uh, what I did when
I was there. So while we were there, one of
the things we did was take a haunted tour of
the downtown area. Obviously, even back then I was still
into you know, taking hot tours and ghost stories and
all kinds of shit.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, that's a lifelong obsession for me obviously for you too, Rob.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yes, this is the whole epos of the podcast exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So we were told ghost stories from pictures taken to
the cemetery that showed an old woman amongst the grave,
to a series of unsolved murders that was rumored to
connect the infamous Jack the Ripper to Charleston, South Carolina, unsubstantiated,
of course, But the one that I remember the most
vividly was this legend. Now, if you're wandering the shadowy
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edges of South Carolina's low country, especially along the sea
islands or deep within the coastal plains, there's something in
the air that's more than just the scent of pluff
mud and Spanish mosh moss. There's history here, rich, soulful,
and steeped in centuries old African heritage. This is Gula Country.
Have you ever heard that word before? Gula? No, it's okay,
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because I'm gonna teach you all about it, Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
The Gula people Julia.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So, the Gula people, descendants of West African slaves, have
preserved a culture so vivid and distinct it feels like
another world. Their language, food, spirituality, and stories have endured
for generations. But one of the most chilling legends to
emerge from this culture is that of the boo Hag.
Yeah you heard me right, the boo Hag. Now this
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is in your garden variety ghost tale. According to Gula folklore,
when a person dies, they leave behind both a soul
and a spirit. The soul, if it's good, heads on
up to heaven, but the spirit, well, if it's rotten,
it stays, and sometimes it becomes a boo hag. The
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boohg doesn't knock on doors or creak down halls like
a polite poltergeist. No, this thing slips through cracks, glides
through gaps, and comes into your home while you're fast asleep.
You won't know it's there. Not at first. It creeps around,
searching until it finds you in your bed, and then
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it sits on your chest and starts stealing the very
breath from your lungs. But the horror doesn't stop there
after it's drained you nearly lifeless. It climbs into your skin, yes,
your skin, and wears you like a body suit. Where's
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your body like a suit? Taking your for a ride
through the night until dawn. It wears you through the night.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know, I'm into paranormal, but I'm not really into that.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You don't want one of these things showing up coming
in your house, putting your putting your skin on, and
riding you around town.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, I can go without that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
The next morning, you wake up completely exhausted, no memory
of moving, no clue what's happened, but your energy's gone
and your body aches like you ran a marathon in
your sleep. Now here's the part that I'll hope you
sleep at night. Maybe boo hags they're obsessive, like count
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every hair on a hair brush, obsessive. So Goula tradition says,
if you want protection or if you have a boohag,
that's been right, that's been riding you, it's been riding
your skin around, keep a broom rush or even a
colander next to your bed. If the boo hag shows up,
they'll be too busy counting to bother climbing inside you.
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So that's that's a little different from the way I heard.
I remember hearing it that if you put a bread
a broom under the bed, they'll count the bristles and
they'll get so obsessed that they won't notice the sun
coming up. And if the sun comes up and catches
them without skin on they they are forced to leave
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or are sent back to the underworld or whatever, or
forced out of your house or something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Jesus how many people and sleep with the broom under
that bed.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Okay, So here's where it gets really interesting. So this
is just another story, right, another tale told to make
sure make sure you lock your doors and windows at night.
And that's what I thought. And then we got back
to North Carolina, back home where I should have found
myself to be comfortable and to be safe. But when
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I got home and tried to get back to a
normal routine, I found that the days started to drag. Right.
My energy was absolutely gone, like every day. On top
of that, I was starting to have episodes of I
was having episodes of sleep paralysis almost every night. I mean,
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I've had sleep paralysis before, buddy, Like I've done it
where I wake up. I'm not unused to it, you know,
but it was becoming it became more frequent, to the
point that I was dreading going to bed. Right, and
the stories we had heard about the Boo hag kept
creeping in. I was skeptical that my shit sleep had
anything to do with a Lowland monster, but the thought
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kept nagging at me. What if it was? What if
one of these creatures had latched onto me, caught a
ride in Linden, was torturing me nightly? So I started
remembering what they said about how to get rid of them,
about how they can't help but count things, and that
they'll get so caught up and counting that bristles on
a brush that they won't notice the sunrise and be
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caught without their skin. So before bed, while my wife
wasn't looking, because honestly, I felt like a crazy person
when I did this, I grabbed the broom for the kitchen,
carried it into the bedroom and slid it under my
side of the bed. And you know what happened, best,
sleepy La, I'll give it, uh good guess. I'll give
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the audience a couple seconds to come up with their
own guesses too, right, locked in to everybody? Yeah, man,
I slept like a fucking rock that night. I still
remember how good I slept that night. I next morning
I felt like a million bucks.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Dude, so cool and fucking free, at the same time.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, so is there some merits to the story to
the legend is the boohg? Real? Did one follow me home?
Did I ward it off with a broom? I don't know,
but I'll tell you what I do. No, anytime I
have a couple of sleep paralysis episodes in a row,
anytime I feel like sleep isn't getting the job done,
anytime I feel like something just isn't right, first thing
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I do, like go to the kitchen, grab the room
from behind the basement door, and I slide that thing
bristles first under my mattress. Sleep perfect every time.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So that's my that's my fucking boohg story. Manly, I'm
not even kidding that that that legit is how it happens.
That is absolutely how it fucking happened. And I honestly did.
I felt like a fucking crazy person grabbing the broom
and sticking under the bed. I was like, but I
was like I had I had enough of it, dude,
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Like I was. My sleep was so bad when I
got back from Charleston that I just I couldn't think
of anything else.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
That's crazy, bro right, that's fucking oh shit.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, man. So there you have it. If you want
to get spooked to go to Charleston, South Carolina. But
when you get home, put a fucking broom onney your bed, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Because you might have a boot hagg follow you home.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
So you know what's funny is I've heard that. I've
heard that that same thing with like fairy folk or
like other type of fake creatures is they can't help
but count shit. And so I don't know if you
it comes up in like I don't know, I watched
I watched the Supernatural series. Like it comes up in
that where spilling salt. If you have a fairy and
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you want to get there, you want to make them
busy doing something, you spill salt. They have to count
the grains, right.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, I've heard about putting salt like cells and stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah that's a little bit yeah, that's a little bit different.
That's like, use the salt because it's a pure substance
and it will stop like spirits or ghosts or witches
or something from crossing a threshold. But like so like
fairies and fai folk, apparently they have the urge to
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count things and so like brushes, brooms, piles of salt,
piles of rice, grains of rice, you know what I mean.
They are compulsed to count things and they can't on.
Once they start counting, they can't move on from it.
So it's a good way to stop them from doing something.
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It comes up in a lot of folklore that I've heard,
eat it. But anyways, yeah, man, that's my story of
South Carolina. I know we also did one when we
talked about Paris Island, but that was a little different.
That was ghost stories about Paris Island.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
That was fucking cool man. Yeah, fucking black oly Ship.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, fun times.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Man. I was like it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That was a cool city. Man, I'd go I'd go back.
I haven't been back, but I mean i've I've gone
to Wilmington a bunch of time. But yeah, I'm gonna
I'm trying to stay away from that. But everything else
is good, all right, man, Well you got anything else
for us?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I do, but.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
We're just gonna have to wait till next week because
as I have only I have a massive onion only
halfway peeled it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
So I'm gonna save that for next week.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
That's gonna be a good one, all right, man, sounds good. Well, everybody,
thank you so much for listening. Thank you for joining
us on our little trip South Carolina and to hear
my story of the boot hag. That's yeah, that's when
I've told that a few times to other people, like
and I mentioned that happening, and people like, you're fucking
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serious that the whole getting to the point where I've
got ship sleep and then put the broom under and
it stops.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Man, there's something to that ship, bro, because like I said,
I couldn't sleep for fucking beans.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Bro, when fucking I came back from the Escape Pierce mansion.
There was something weird that whole, Mike.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I mean, you were in Eno Sorri's room fucking taunting
him in the mirror, and then I got that picture
that looks like it's his face with a lighter.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I wouldn't say taunting.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I was just trying to you, like show yourself.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Hey, buddy, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You say that. But I think we have we have
audio evidence. There's there's a bonus episode of Escape Piers
bonus episode where we recorded while we're in the ESK
Pierce house. And you can go, everybody, you can go
and listen to that. You tell me if it sounds
like Rob was taunting Eno sorry when we were in
that room, because you can hear him going.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
It that night.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
You let us know, uh, listen to that, and then
jump on Instagram and let let me know. DM me
and let me know if it sounds like Rob was
taunting spirits in that one.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well I probably did, because every fucking five minutes I
was like popping up and looking at the foot of
the fucking bed.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I mean I probably did too at one point. But
it's okay, It's okay, less and learn, all right, guys. Well,
thanks for listening, Thanks for coming back, Thanks for being
a follower. Thank you to those four who did the
five stars on Spotify. I'm super pumped about that one.
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Keep up the good work, guys. Everybody else, jump on
there and do all that same stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Follow us on social.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Send us a d M because on social because it
will come to me or Rob.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, that's correct, and we'd love.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
To hear from you, guys. So if you see us,
say hi. I love it when people say hi. I
stole that from Lore. But anyway, have a good night,
get out there, find your spirits.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
S
In the dark forest lines, the secret told in broken
stories by those who have bore witness a monster, a murder,
a long forgotten ghost town shrouded in mystery. We're not
just here to uncover these stories. We're here to walk
the haunted pads, seek out the restless spirits who linger
in these forsaken places, and we want you to come along.
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Welcome to tails, trails and taverns, where curiosity defy his caution.
We venture into the eerie trails, the abandoned ghost towns,
and the old taverns where echoes of the past still
cling to the air. These are the places others might
warn you not to go to. So lace up your boots,
grab a work and flashlight, and join us together. We'll
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tell the tails, hike the trails, and raise a glass
of the spirits, both spectral and distilled, who wait for
us at the tavern's door.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh oh, so, like I was saying, so the North
Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ye, the Canes. Yeah you know, dude, I lived in
North Carolina for ten years.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Bro all right, bro, well, I didn't know you if
you were a hockey guy. So when they score a
goal that North Carolina eating Pablo song plays.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, so right before.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The Tampa Bay, Florida Panthers game started, like it was
the end of the fucking.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The cover Canes the Canes game, and like they scored
the empty.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Netter and there was like, no, I like, the whole
fucking stadium's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was like, that's pretty fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That is pretty cool. There's a little bit of a resurgence.
That was an old song.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh yeah, dude, that was when I was like a
senior in high school.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I was back in early two thousand. I remember
that North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Comona bazel.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Bro. All right, yeah, so anyways, welcome back to another
episode of Tails, Trails and Taverns. I'm gonna I'm gonna
leave that. I'm gonna leave that part in there.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Do you checked yourself?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Me and Robert just talking about how kids love eminem
these days for some.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Reason because he's a he's a goat.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Like he was saying, we listened to when we were kids,
So why wouldn't our kids still listen to him?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Bro? Kids?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Like all right, little side note, like kids, my daughter
says that kids are obsessed with nineties culture.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh my god, dude, my son listens to the Food Fighters, Uh,
the Offspring, fucking Bush, you know, all those nineties bands.
I got a nineties, nineties and two thousands playlist.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
He hits it up all the time, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
My daughter is like, she'll like put on corn Freak
on a Leash and I'm like, how the hell do
you even.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Know that song?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
She's like, because it's awesome, right, or like she loves
rob Zombie like Dragula.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Now, my kid listened to Robs on me too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, it's like so much so that like for her
Easter present, she wanted like retro Jordan's Seven's military blue. Yeah,
and I'm like those were popular in like ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She's like, they're popular now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Hey, just saying those shoes are almost thirty years old.
That's pretty fucking cool that they're still popular.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I know. Right, my kid's got a couple like the
Champion T shirts and stuff too, Like you know, oh,
Style's coming back. I'm still waiting for Varney to come back,
but I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Dude. I remember the second grade wearing the clothes backwards
like criss cross.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The second grade.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, I was probably I was probably middle school that's funny.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Do you remember those La gears? Yeah, light up.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh yeah, the light up shoes. Man, they were the coolest.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Fuck yeah, fucking nineties were great, man.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
The nineties were great. Man.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, I guess it kind of makes sense because
when we were kids, I remember being obsessed with like seventies.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, sixties and seventies, the music, the style.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yep, we weren't uh yeah, we were not obsessed with
what was going on in the eighties, even though we
were living in the eighties. And now people will look
back on it and then the nineties, obviously we just
did nineties shit.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And also we listened to the music and we're like, yeah,
it's good, it's just not as good as the ship
they put in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And now I listened to the ship in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Like, nineties music is fucking the tops, Okay, it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Like I look back, Well, No, what I'm trying to
say is, at the time when I heard it, I'm like,
it's good, but it's not Pink Floyd.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's not like Sabbath, it's not zapp Bline.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But now I listen to it and I'm like, fuck man,
the nineties had great fucking music and we didn't even
know it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I have no idea at the time.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No idea how was fucking great and impactful that music
would still be to this day.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, man, it certainly is.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So this is not a show about Nostala.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Just not a show about the nineties.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Although we could make a show about the nineties someday.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Just we can. I've heard some people have done some
shows about the nineties, but who knows who knows of those? Yeah,
we'll think about it. But anyways, so one of the
first things I wanted to say was, as we're going
on here, we did get some ratings on Spotify. Thank
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you guys. We are nowaday five star rating Spotify. So
that should help, I should help produce our numbers up.
You know, we could definitely get more ratings. I think
it's like four at this point, but it's it's five stars.
So everybody, thank you for I don't know who you are,
but thank you. You have my eternal gratitude.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
We're gonna pop a bottle of champagne over that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'm gonna pop a bottle of yingling Light Lagger over
that because That's what I've got on hand. What else? Man?
We are counting down the days to Para Con to Penhurst,
Pera con Man and uh checking out Gettysburg on the
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way there. We've got uh, we've got our all the
stuff we're gonna need to go there. We got business
cards coming in T shirts and hoodies for us to
wear while we're there, with the QBR code printed on
the back so people can see us standing there and
check it out. Get all our get all our info
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right off of us. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna
be a fun time, right. I can't wait to get
back out there again.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh man, I'm so psyched.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Do you know any other those podcasts that have clarified
that they will definitely be going.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I haven't. I haven't heard yet. Man. I keep asking
everybody if anybody's going. I'm sure our friend there. Uh
what was it, Haunted Raven? Yeah, spring He will definitely
be there.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I hope he's out there because there's a hospital, a
massive hospital is Springfield that I want to urban explore.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, and I'm sure he'd be down to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He's been doing he's been hosting some some paranormal investigations. Dude,
have you checked that out yet?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The only problem is a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Are like like in Maryland or like Indiana.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, I think one of them was in Ohio or
something like. He's doing he's doing big stuff. So good
for good for him. Man, Hey, if you hear it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh, yeah, he's doing big stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It's it's just they're so fucking far away.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's like a kind of like a commitment almost, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, So hey, man, if you uh, if you do
a little closer here, we'll get into it. We might
just have to make the field trip one of these times,
get out there and do all of those paranormal investigations
with them.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Fucking right, dude, I'd be.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Down, yeah, man. And uh what else?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Instagram's booming eighty seven thousand followers.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Boom boom boom and climbing.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Bigger and better us climbs every day. Man, It's ridiculous.
It's awesome, absolutely awesome. I love it. I love everybody
who shows up. And then I've been going through and
I message probably about ten or so people a day.
Just give them a little greeting, give him a little
link and Uh. So, you know, if you're one of
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those ten people, if you're one of those people who
received a link from me or like a greeting from me,
just know that that is from me. That is not
a bot, that is not a service, that is not
a subordinate, that is me contact you, because I feel
like sometimes I do that and people respond and I'll
start talking to them and they're kind of surprised that
somebody with that many followers is talking to them. I have.
(09:36):
I had one guy say like, oh my god, you're famous.
Like now, man, it's just it's just me. Like, I'm
not not famous, dude, just a guy likes tell ghost stories,
you know what I mean, right, Like, it's it's just me, man.
I don't have a marketing we don't have a marketing
department or anything. It's just it's just it's just me
and Rob out here grinding, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So a marketing department, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But uh yeah, this week, man, I took it back
to I took it back to the time that I
took it back to the time that I visited Charleston,
South Carolina, and I got to go in a little
bit of ghost door and had a weird experience after
going there. So after the break we'll get into that. Man,
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do you love haunted places, creepy legends, and abandoned ruins
and join us every Friday on Tales, Trails and Taverns.
Each week we hiked eerie forgotten spots, dig into their
dark history and share spine chilling ghost stories, plus what
it's like to visit the places where those tales began.
From a haunted forest to ghost towns, we explore the
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about anywhere you listen to podcasts. So lacepp your boots,
grab a working flashlight, and tune in for an adventure
into the unknown. All right, So back in twenty thirteen,
something's happened in my life. I got married one of them,
and after that marriage, we went on a honeymoon. We
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went to Charleston, South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And never been but I always wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It is gorgeous and it is worth going, absolutely, so
we went. It was end of March, beginning of April
and the place was magnificent. So if you don't know,
Charleston is a city in South Carolina. It was established
in sixteen It was founded in sixteen seventy. So Charleston
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is an old city.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You can say that again.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And I don't remember exactly why the name changed from
Charlestown to Charleston. It had something to do with King
Charles and them not wanting to be associated with them
at some point. And I think it had something to
do with slate the slave trade. I'm not really sure.
I don't I didn't look that story up, but I
do remember parts of it. Oh, Carly that Charleston has
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a population of one hundred and fifty eight thousand plus people,
So it's pretty good sized, pretty good sized city.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is it the capital of South Carolina?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I don't think so. I think the capital of South
Carolina is Columbia. But don't quote me on that, Okay,
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It's in It's an inland city.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, Yeah, Charleston's on the coast.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh, it's on the coast, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, Charleston is a is a coastal city. It's a
harbor city.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And so, like I said, I went, I went to
Charleston from a honeymoon back in twenty thirteen, beginning of April,
and it was awesome. It's down by the water. We
spent some time downtown down by the water. And it's
been a while, so I'm not going to be able
to tell you exactly where we went as far as
like restaurants or bars or whatever. But at first, let's
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step off the bustling Charleston streets and onto John's Island,
just about twelve miles from the Ashley River. Here, nestled
in a quiet grove, stands a living legend, the Angel Oak.
Have you ever heard of this?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Never?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So apparently this is a this is a big enough deal.
Where when I didn't know about it when I went
down there, but my ex wife she knew about it.
I wanted to see it, and it was. It was awesome.
Sou Locals just call it the tree. And once you've
seen it, you'll understand why. The massive Southern live oak
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is estimated to be anywhere from four hundred to five
hundred years old, making it not only the oldest living tree,
the oldest living thing in South Carolina, but what the hell?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Sorry uh, making it not only the oldest living thing
in South Carolina, but one of the oldest east of
the Mississippi, towering over sixty five feet tall with limbs
that sprawl one hundred and sixty feet across.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Damn, this ancient giant cast a shade that covers over
seventeen thousand square feet of ground. And I mean when
I tell you, dude, it's massive. Like the trunk is huge, right,
and then the big the big branches. I don't have
you ever seen a live oak? Do you know what
a live oak is? Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
If you explained it to me, I could probably.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So it kind of it does. It spreads out wider
than it is tall, like this one says. It's sixty
five feet tall and one hundred seaty feet across. And
it basically the branches towards the bottom start to go
out instead of up, and they almost some of them
actually go back out and they touch the ground and
then start to grow back up again. So it's it's
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very low and wide, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Are they native to where we live? Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Not up here? No, But this is more of a
second thing. Probably island, right, Guaranteed we saw live oaks
at Paris Island, Okay, because this is the same area. Yeah, Yeah,
Beuford's not that far from Charleston.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Okay, So then if I saw it, i'd probably know.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, if I set you a picture of it, you'd
be like, oh that, yeah, I know what that is.
So it's like something out of a fantasy novel. Trunks
so heavy that they rest on the ground, limbs twisted
and stretched with the weight of centuries. Very nice. The
earliest known record of the land dates back to seventeen seventeen,
when it was granted to a man named Abraham Waite.
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The property remained in his family for four generations, and
eventually the land became part of a marriage settlement between
Martha W. T. Angel and Justice Angel, giving the tree
its enduring name. Today, the Angel Oak is owned by
the City of Charleston and is free to visit, standing
proudly as the centerpiece of a public park. But Angel
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Oak isn't just a tree. It's a survivor. Over hundreds
of years, it's withstood earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, and the steady
creep of human development. Through all of it, it remains
a sentient of the past, whispering its silent stories to
the breeze that rustles its ancient leaves. If you're in
Charleston during the summer fall, you might even catch one
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of the cultural events held beneath its branches, like the
Evening under the Angel Oak series or performances during this
Spiletto Festival. I don't know what that is, but even
without the festivities, standing in its presence is kind of
an experience all its own. It's quiet, it's humbling, it's timeless,
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so very cool place to visit. You can walk all
around it. You can kind of climb up on some
of the lower branches, you know, I don't I think
they would frown upon you climbing all the way up
to the top sixty five feet up, but standing us
on the lower branch is definitely cool. We had a
we had a dog with us.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I definitely think climbing that would be frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But it's free to visit. There's a ton of people there.
It was absolutely awesome. I don't remember where the pictures
are that we took when we when we were down there,
but they're probably somewhere. It was very, very cool. So
obviously there's a lot of history in Charleston, South Carolina. Says,
you know, sixteen seventy long long city's been there for
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a long time. Oh yeah, let me take it to
downtown Charleston, a city that's practically dripping with history, charm,
and yes, ghost stories. If there's one place in Charleston
that has built the historical gravitas and the eerie reputation match,
it's the Dock Street Theater. I don't remember exactly when
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we went down and saw this, but it's one of
those places where it's in Charleston. We definitely saw it
at some point, you know. Now, this a building has
been through a lot. Originally constructed in seventeen thirty six
as a warehouse, it wasn't until nineteen thirty seven that
it took on its now famous role as a theater.
And while audiences have flocked there for for decades to
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enjoy plays, music and performances, many have left with more
than just a memory of the show. Strange occurrences and
chilling encounters have earned this venue a solid spot in
the list of the most haunted places in the South.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
One of the most famous spirits said to roam the
aisles is that of Neddie Dickerson. Neddie was an actorctress
of the nineteenth century and her story ends in tragedy,
collapsing and dying on stage mid performance. Some say she yeah,
some say she's never left Theatergoers and performers alike have
seen her spectral figure appearing during shows, as if she's
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taking her final bow, which she did at one point. Apparently.
Then there's Junius Brutus Booth, an accomplished actor in his
own right, and yes, the father of John Wilkes Booth,
the man who assassinated the President Lincoln. Oh shit, didn't
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see that twist coming to do?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Did you know? I mean you knew John Wilkes Booth
was an actor, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I did?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And did you know his father was an actor too?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean I didn't do much homework on John wilkeson So.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now, okay, So Junius has been spotted in the dressing rooms,
perhaps still rehearsing lines in the afterlife. His ghost is
said to linger in the shadows backstage, a true performer
until the end. But it doesn't stop there. The visitors
have reported disembodied voices echoing through the empty theater, flashes
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of movement in the balconies, cold spots that settle without warning.
There's something about the dock Street Theater that feels active,
like the walls themselves are listening. So, whether you're there
for a show, history tour or maybe just chasing chills,
the Dock Street Theater delivers ghost stories or not. One
thing's for sure. This Charleston landmark holds centuries of drama,
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both on and off the stage. Okay, So the next
part that I want to next place in Charleston that
I wanted to talk about is the Old Jail. And
for this one, I'm just gonna read the article that
I take directly from the National Park Service website. So
that's www dot NPS dot gov.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Okay, and.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So location its twenty one Magazine Street, Charleston, South Carolina.
The Old Jail Building served as the Charleston County Jail
from its construction eighteen oh two until nineteen thirty nine.
In sixteen eighty, as the city of Charleston was being
laid out, a four acre square of land was set
aside at this location for public use. In time, a hospital, poorhouse,
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workhouse for enslaved people fleeing bondage, and this jail were
built on the square. When the jail was constructed in
eighteen oh two, it consisted of four stories, topped with
a two story octagonal tower. Charleston architects Barbett and Sale
were responsible for eighteen fifty five alterations of the building,
including a real rear octagonal wing, expansion of the main building,
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and the Romanesque revival details. This octagonal wing replaced a
fireproof wing with individual cells designed by Robert Mills in
eighteen twenty two, five years earlier than his notable fireproof building.
The eighteen eighty six earthquake badly damaged the tower and
top story of the main building, and these were subsequently removed.
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The old jail housed a great variety of inmates. John
and Lavinia Fisher and other members of their gang were
convicted of robbery and murder and were imprisoned here in
eighteen nineteen and eighteen twenty. Some of the last nineteenth
century high Sea pirates were jailed here in eighteen twenty
two while they awaited hanging. The jail was also active
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after the discovery of Denmark Vessey's planned uprising in eighteen
twenty one. He formulated a plan to win freedom for
the enslaved people of the city, but the authorities were
informed of the plot before it could take place. In
addition to several hundreds of enslaved and free African Americans
jailed for their involvement, four white men were also convicted
of supporting the plot. Vessi spent his last days in
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the tower before being hanged. I think I remember this
one because I remember hearing a lot about hangings in
a jail. I mean, keep in mind that, you know,
I went to Charleston twenty thirteen. This is what twelve
years ago?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Thirteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, so I'm going on sheer memory here.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I'm also you're doing good.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm also almost two ynglings in too, So that's when
it gets good. So increased restrictions were placed on free
and enslaved African Americans in Charlestown as a result of
the Vesi plot, and law required that all black sailors
be kept here while they were in Port. Well that's
fucked up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
During the Civil War, Confederate and Federal prisoners of war
were incarcerated here. It is one of more than fourteen
hundred historically significant buildings within the Charleston Old and Historic District.
Fourteen hundred buildings in Charleston. Jesus, holy shit, that's a
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lot of buildings in one place in one city, is
it not?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh it did, that's all.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It sounded like a high number. Holy shit.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And this was what Civil War era.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
This was built in early eighteen hundreds, so this is like,
uh War of eighteen twelve and up.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Very thickly settled.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So yeah, it was. It's there, you know, it was
definitely there during the Civil War. But all right, So
the next place I want to talk about is the
Old Exchange and Provis Dungeon. And so for this one,
I've got an article from Historic Charlestown Charleston dot com
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and this details it all pretty well. So the Old
Exchange and Provis Dungeon, built in seventeen seventy one, reflected
the wealth and importance of Charlestown Charles then as a
bustling and prosperous seaport. The building has been a Charleston
landmark for almost two hundred and fifty years, and today
is a nonprofit historic site focusing on the American Revolution
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in colonial Charleston. It's over two hundred fifty years now.
Who was this fucking this must have been written a
few years ago. Seventeen seventy one is over two hundred
fifty years now.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
During the American Revolution, British forces used the basement of
the buildings as a military prison, also called provst Or Dungeon.
This is where it gets his name from. This space
was used to house American prisoners of war, British soldiers,
and enslaved individuals. In seventeen eighty eight, the Exchange hosted
South Carolina leaders has debated and approved the US Constitution. Today,
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the Old Exchange building is one of only four structures
remaining where the nation's founding document was originally ratified, one
of four.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
In seventeen ninety one, George Washington spent a week in
Charleston on his Southern tour. The Exchange was the site
of lavish dinners, concerts and a fancy dress ball attended
by Washington. Today, visitors to the Exchange and Proves Dungeon
could view the Half Moon Battery, the only standing portion
of the original Charlestown City Wall open for public viewing. Okay,
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that's pretty impressive. Admission to the Old Exchange includes a
self guided exhibition on the top two floors of the
building and a twenty five minute guided tour the bottom
floor cellar otherwise known as the Provinces Dungeon. Most visitors
spent between forty five minutes and an hour on site,
though guests are welcome to take as much or as
little time as they like exploring the self guided exhibition.
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So that was obviously a very good and formative article,
but it didn't detail any of the ghost stories. So
I found another article, Charleston Haunted Story. This is from
Jasper Charleston dot com and goes into the spooky sightings
and the ghosts of this place, same place, huh, in
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the spirit of Halloween. And I also agree with that
because we hear at tilS, trails and taverns like to
go with the Halloween essence all year.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Long, So Halloween is where it's at people.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's right. We are sharing a paranormal legend rumored to
haunt one of Broad Street's historic buildings. For centuries, the
Old Exchange in Province Dungeon has been infamous for sightings
of the ghosts reported to haunt its hallways. Located on
one twenty two Bay Street, the elegant Georgian building is
what some locals describe as a burdened basement. Interesting when
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you put it, guests have claimed to see glimpses of
ghosts throughout the hallways of the building, and have reported
hearing the shocking screams of long dead dungeon prisoners. Before
how the beautiful building was constructed, The site belonged to
the Half Moon Battery, a center for trade in Charleston,
which held a prison underneath. Pirate legends like Blackbeard and
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Steed Bonnet, who threatened the safety of the colonists in
the seventeen hundreds, were kept locked away in this infamous dungeon.
There we go, That's what I was just going to see,
Old Blackbeard, mister teach himself. By the end of the century,
the demand for trade created an opportunity to build the
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Old Exchange to support the facilitation of business in the
port city. The Charleston Landmark was a commercial exchange, post office,
city hall, and custom house. In the twentieth century, the
Daughters of the American Revolution saved it for preservation, and
it became a historical museum in the nineteen eighties. The
Old Exchange's true legacy is predominantly due to its premier architecture,
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influenced by a Georgian Palladian my god, a Georgian Palladium motif.
Its beauty and design and find materials make it one
of the most important buildings from the American colonial era. However,
museum visitors have come close to a countering what is
believed to be spirits of prisoners of the Provosts Dungeon,
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people have claimed. People have claimed to see dancing orbs here, screaming,
and feel chilling cold breezes that could belong to some
of the pirates who are trapped blow street level in
the Haunt of Prison. Although some locals will say it's
a fable, you will have to visit the old Exchange
and Proves Dungeon yourself to find out the truth. And
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the rest of it goes on about about visiting Charleston
in Halloween and it was definitely cool visiting there in
the spring? Is that actually right about? Well a little
early in this time, a little earlier in April. So
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now I get back to, uh, what I did when
I was there. So while we were there, one of
the things we did was take a haunted tour of
the downtown area. Obviously, even back then I was still
into you know, taking hot tours and ghost stories and
all kinds of shit.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, that's a lifelong obsession for me obviously for you too, Rob.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yes, this is the whole epos of the podcast exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So we were told ghost stories from pictures taken to
the cemetery that showed an old woman amongst the grave,
to a series of unsolved murders that was rumored to
connect the infamous Jack the Ripper to Charleston, South Carolina, unsubstantiated,
of course, But the one that I remember the most
vividly was this legend. Now, if you're wandering the shadowy
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edges of South Carolina's low country, especially along the sea
islands or deep within the coastal plains, there's something in
the air that's more than just the scent of pluff
mud and Spanish mosh moss. There's history here, rich, soulful,
and steeped in centuries old African heritage. This is Gula Country.
Have you ever heard that word before? Gula? No, it's okay,
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because I'm gonna teach you all about it, Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
The Gula people Julia.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So, the Gula people, descendants of West African slaves, have
preserved a culture so vivid and distinct it feels like
another world. Their language, food, spirituality, and stories have endured
for generations. But one of the most chilling legends to
emerge from this culture is that of the boo Hag.
Yeah you heard me right, the boo Hag. Now this
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is in your garden variety ghost tale. According to Gula folklore,
when a person dies, they leave behind both a soul
and a spirit. The soul, if it's good, heads on
up to heaven, but the spirit, well, if it's rotten,
it stays, and sometimes it becomes a boo hag. The
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boohg doesn't knock on doors or creak down halls like
a polite poltergeist. No, this thing slips through cracks, glides
through gaps, and comes into your home while you're fast asleep.
You won't know it's there. Not at first. It creeps around,
searching until it finds you in your bed, and then
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it sits on your chest and starts stealing the very
breath from your lungs. But the horror doesn't stop there
after it's drained you nearly lifeless. It climbs into your skin, yes,
your skin, and wears you like a body suit. Where's
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your body like a suit? Taking your for a ride
through the night until dawn. It wears you through the night.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know, I'm into paranormal, but I'm not really into that.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You don't want one of these things showing up coming
in your house, putting your putting your skin on, and
riding you around town.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, I can go without that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
The next morning, you wake up completely exhausted, no memory
of moving, no clue what's happened, but your energy's gone
and your body aches like you ran a marathon in
your sleep. Now here's the part that I'll hope you
sleep at night. Maybe boo hags they're obsessive, like count
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every hair on a hair brush, obsessive. So Goula tradition says,
if you want protection or if you have a boohag,
that's been right, that's been riding you, it's been riding
your skin around, keep a broom rush or even a
colander next to your bed. If the boo hag shows up,
they'll be too busy counting to bother climbing inside you.
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So that's that's a little different from the way I heard.
I remember hearing it that if you put a bread
a broom under the bed, they'll count the bristles and
they'll get so obsessed that they won't notice the sun
coming up. And if the sun comes up and catches
them without skin on they they are forced to leave
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or are sent back to the underworld or whatever, or
forced out of your house or something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Jesus how many people and sleep with the broom under
that bed.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Okay, So here's where it gets really interesting. So this
is just another story, right, another tale told to make
sure make sure you lock your doors and windows at night.
And that's what I thought. And then we got back
to North Carolina, back home where I should have found
myself to be comfortable and to be safe. But when
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I got home and tried to get back to a
normal routine, I found that the days started to drag. Right.
My energy was absolutely gone, like every day. On top
of that, I was starting to have episodes of I
was having episodes of sleep paralysis almost every night. I mean,
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I've had sleep paralysis before, buddy, Like I've done it
where I wake up. I'm not unused to it, you know,
but it was becoming it became more frequent, to the
point that I was dreading going to bed. Right, and
the stories we had heard about the Boo hag kept
creeping in. I was skeptical that my shit sleep had
anything to do with a Lowland monster, but the thought
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kept nagging at me. What if it was? What if
one of these creatures had latched onto me, caught a
ride in Linden, was torturing me nightly? So I started
remembering what they said about how to get rid of them,
about how they can't help but count things, and that
they'll get so caught up and counting that bristles on
a brush that they won't notice the sunrise and be
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caught without their skin. So before bed, while my wife
wasn't looking, because honestly, I felt like a crazy person
when I did this, I grabbed the broom for the kitchen,
carried it into the bedroom and slid it under my
side of the bed. And you know what happened, best,
sleepy La, I'll give it, uh good guess. I'll give
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the audience a couple seconds to come up with their
own guesses too, right, locked in to everybody? Yeah, man,
I slept like a fucking rock that night. I still
remember how good I slept that night. I next morning
I felt like a million bucks.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Dude, so cool and fucking free, at the same time.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, so is there some merits to the story to
the legend is the boohg? Real? Did one follow me home?
Did I ward it off with a broom? I don't know,
but I'll tell you what I do. No, anytime I
have a couple of sleep paralysis episodes in a row,
anytime I feel like sleep isn't getting the job done,
anytime I feel like something just isn't right, first thing
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I do, like go to the kitchen, grab the room
from behind the basement door, and I slide that thing
bristles first under my mattress. Sleep perfect every time.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So that's my that's my fucking boohg story. Manly, I'm
not even kidding that that that legit is how it happens.
That is absolutely how it fucking happened. And I honestly did.
I felt like a fucking crazy person grabbing the broom
and sticking under the bed. I was like, but I
was like I had I had enough of it, dude,
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Like I was. My sleep was so bad when I
got back from Charleston that I just I couldn't think
of anything else.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
That's crazy, bro right, that's fucking oh shit.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, man. So there you have it. If you want
to get spooked to go to Charleston, South Carolina. But
when you get home, put a fucking broom onney your bed, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Because you might have a boot hagg follow you home.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
So you know what's funny is I've heard that. I've
heard that that same thing with like fairy folk or
like other type of fake creatures is they can't help
but count shit. And so I don't know if you
it comes up in like I don't know, I watched
I watched the Supernatural series. Like it comes up in
that where spilling salt. If you have a fairy and
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you want to get there, you want to make them
busy doing something, you spill salt. They have to count
the grains, right.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, I've heard about putting salt like cells and stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah that's a little bit yeah, that's a little bit different.
That's like, use the salt because it's a pure substance
and it will stop like spirits or ghosts or witches
or something from crossing a threshold. But like so like
fairies and fai folk, apparently they have the urge to
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count things and so like brushes, brooms, piles of salt,
piles of rice, grains of rice, you know what I mean.
They are compulsed to count things and they can't on.
Once they start counting, they can't move on from it.
So it's a good way to stop them from doing something.
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It comes up in a lot of folklore that I've heard,
eat it. But anyways, yeah, man, that's my story of
South Carolina. I know we also did one when we
talked about Paris Island, but that was a little different.
That was ghost stories about Paris Island.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
That was fucking cool man. Yeah, fucking black oly Ship.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, fun times.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Man. I was like it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That was a cool city. Man, I'd go I'd go back.
I haven't been back, but I mean i've I've gone
to Wilmington a bunch of time. But yeah, I'm gonna
I'm trying to stay away from that. But everything else
is good, all right, man, Well you got anything else
for us?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I do, but.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
We're just gonna have to wait till next week because
as I have only I have a massive onion only
halfway peeled it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
So I'm gonna save that for next week.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
That's gonna be a good one, all right, man, sounds good. Well, everybody,
thank you so much for listening. Thank you for joining
us on our little trip South Carolina and to hear
my story of the boot hag. That's yeah, that's when
I've told that a few times to other people, like
and I mentioned that happening, and people like, you're fucking
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serious that the whole getting to the point where I've
got ship sleep and then put the broom under and
it stops.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Man, there's something to that ship, bro, because like I said,
I couldn't sleep for fucking beans.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Bro, when fucking I came back from the Escape Pierce mansion.
There was something weird that whole, Mike.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I mean, you were in Eno Sorri's room fucking taunting
him in the mirror, and then I got that picture
that looks like it's his face with a lighter.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I wouldn't say taunting.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I was just trying to you, like show yourself.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Hey, buddy, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You say that. But I think we have we have
audio evidence. There's there's a bonus episode of Escape Piers
bonus episode where we recorded while we're in the ESK
Pierce house. And you can go, everybody, you can go
and listen to that. You tell me if it sounds
like Rob was taunting Eno sorry when we were in
that room, because you can hear him going.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
It that night.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
You let us know, uh, listen to that, and then
jump on Instagram and let let me know. DM me
and let me know if it sounds like Rob was
taunting spirits in that one.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well I probably did, because every fucking five minutes I
was like popping up and looking at the foot of
the fucking bed.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I mean I probably did too at one point. But
it's okay, It's okay, less and learn, all right, guys. Well,
thanks for listening, Thanks for coming back, Thanks for being
a follower. Thank you to those four who did the
five stars on Spotify. I'm super pumped about that one.
(43:23):
Keep up the good work, guys. Everybody else, jump on
there and do all that same stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Follow us on social.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Send us a d M because on social because it
will come to me or Rob.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, that's correct, and we'd love.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
To hear from you, guys. So if you see us,
say hi. I love it when people say hi. I
stole that from Lore. But anyway, have a good night,
get out there, find your spirits.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
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