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Speaker 1 (00:04):
She used to get visited by people at night that
died in the mills.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
There is a shadow figure standing right next to where
the pictures are on the wall that we had just been.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
At about ten minutes ago. Right when we crossed the bridge.
I saw something.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And as I walk into the hallway, I feel like
I see a little girl out of the right corner
of my eye.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Dude, I see this fucking man quick one too, like
blink my eyes for three seconds and he's fucking gone through.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
The inn is haunted by three ghosts. He says, there's
the general, there's a little girl.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
All of a sudden, just gets this weirdest feeling today,
just got really cold all of a sudden. It's like,
kinda within a minute of saying that, we see two
blonde hair, blue eyed children.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hear them come up the stairs, but I don't see
the light any he or anything. Ferdie went back down
to get it, and about five minutes later he comes
up the stairs and he's got the light in hand,
and I'm like, dude, what did you do? You forget
the light downstairs the first time? And he's like, what
do you mean. He's like, I heard you come up
the stairs. I didn't see a light. Piers, like, dude,
that wasn't that wasn't me.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It's a weird feeling about it. We turned, we will.
These kids are fucking gone too, man.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was. I was frustrated at work today and I
went into my office and I just looked at my
fucking calend and like, hell yeah, bro, fucking nine days.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, nine days back of Para Con. So absolutely okay,
uh yeah, welcome back another episode of Tails, Trails and Taverns.
And like Robin's just yell yo, no, two weeks until
we get back to para Con. Less than that, No,
less than that when this episode drops, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
A week when this Oh no, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, when this episode drops a week later, we will
be on our way to pera Con. We will be
in routes on the way to Gettysburg and then to
Para Con for the weekend. And I'm super pumped to
go back. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Man. I feel like, you know, we went in there
with with rose what do they call it, rose colored glasses?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Rose last time.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, we didn't really know what to expect, and now
we're kind of going back a little bit of swagger
in that step because Joe, I don't know if you
want to announce this, but I think you should.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Hundred thousand followers on Instagram, Buddy boom, so listen, you
know what's funny today?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hell yeah, we need to get like our own live
news act like on j Low.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That'd be awesome. Yeah. So today I was I jumped
on Instagram at one point and I was looking and
I saw like a follower notification and I checked it
and it was the uh it was the New England
Legends podcast on Instagram had followed our page and so
this is a podcast that this is a podcast I've
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been following for probably since since they started. This is
probably should I can't even tell you seven eight years
ago something like that. Maybe it might be pushing ten now,
but they've been at it for a while and this
is they're like the podcast that got me like that
gave me the spark to be a podcaster, you know
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what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
How many followers those guys have?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Not as many as us, Buddy, but still still it
was like, I don't know, man, It's like it's like
when you meet you know, you meet someone you look
up to, you you meet your heroes, you know, what
I mean. I mean, obviously I've never met the guy,
but you know, he's kind of a He's a legend
in New England as far as the paranormal community goes.
He's the guy who wrote the uh the Weird Massachusetts book.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh okay, So speaking of meeting your heroes.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Uh, I've met some pretty fucking dope people this weekend too.
But go on, I just want to talk about that
for like two minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, Well we'll give you that too. Yeah, but
I'm just saying he followed me. I felt pretty awesome
about it, felt like kind of a rock star. So yeah,
tell us about uh, tell us about your weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Man, dude, it was dope.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I so Sunday I went to horror Fest Connecticut and Stanford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, and me and my daughter we got to.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The pretty much everybody from the Terrifier movie franchise.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, it was cool as fuck. Dude. That guy Matt
really came through.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Mailed me the posters like they were here Friday, ready to.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Go for Sunday. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I probably dropped like over five hundred dollars and just
for pictures and autographs with people.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But it was definitely that that was my daughter's birthday
President And it was such a fucking cool time, dude,
just meeting Art the Clown. We were in line for
like two fucking hours. David Howard, We were in life
for two hours, Joe, and then.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Was gonna happen. But that's that's cool, that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, we met Da we met him. We met Elliott
Fullman who plays Jonathan. We met Laura Raburne and plays Sianna,
and then we met Samantha Scaffeen who played Victoria.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Which, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
When we got to that girl, Samantha Scaffeine, Dude, she
had a line like up the Yin Yang, but she
literally just sat there and just had like an amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ten minute conversation with my daughter.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Dude, like didn't care about the line, Like really just
asking my daughter, like, what's your favorite part of the franchise,
what's your favorite kill, Who's what character are you drawn
to the most.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It was very it was a very fucking cool thing
for her to do.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Then we at one time we had a chance to
break away and we met three people Jeff Jeff, Phillip Daniels,
Richard Brake, and Pancho Moler who played in Rob Zombies
thirty one, and they've also been in a bunch of
other Rob Zombie movies.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, those guys were cool as fuck.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I had about a twenty minute conversation with Jeff Daniel Phillips.
I actually watched his movie that he suggested that he financed,
produced and directed himself. It's called Cursed in the Baja.
I watched it last night. It was pretty fucking good
for his directorial debut. Yeah, so if you get a chance,
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Cursed in the Baja rented on on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's a pretty good movie. It's like a horror action thriller.
But yeah, man, that was that was fucking cool. So
I was just.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Harping off what you said, like meeting your heroes. I
definitely mess some cool fucking.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
People this weekend. And my kid had a blast and
it was a fucking great time.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And and you should, dude, you should come with me
to the one the silver screen that's gonna happen in
uh Worcester and September.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Because I heard not only is.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Are all the actors and actresses coming back, but I
heard Damien the only like the director.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Is going to be there too. Nice, but like that's
one that we should probably go to. Man, because.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that sounds like yeah awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So you got motherfuckers that you've been listening to for
eight years following you.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Now I meant some fucking I guess you want to
call them.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Celebrities literally, Yeah, I mean that terrifying franchisees is blightening
in a bottle.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's waite hot.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, so definitely is man.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, awesome, cool, cool, cool time.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
My kid has such a blast fan like and just
the conversation that she had with the Samantha Scaffini check, Yeah,
I'm like, oh, my daughter understands like character development.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
My daughter understands like like thing. I'm like, man, when
I get the screenplay going like she's good, I don't
what to do.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Awesome, Man, Absolutely all right, you ready to get in
this episode.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Let's fucking do it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So because next week we're gonna be going to Para
Con and we're gonna be going check out Gettysburg. I
decided to do the Battle of Franklin, Tennessee. So this
is another Civil War battle. It's you're gonna find out
it's it's right up there with Gettysburg. It's it's another deadly,
bloody place. So Jesus, after the intro, we'll get right
into it. In the dark forest lies the secret told
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in broken stories by those who have bore witness a monster,
a murder, a long forgotten ghost town, shrouded mystery. We're
not just here to uncover these stories. We're here to
walk the haunted pads, seek out the restless spirits who
linger in these forsaken places, and we want you to
come along. Welcome to tails, trails and taverns were curiosity
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defy his caution. We've enter into the eerie trails, the
abandoned ghost towns, and the old taverns where echoes of
the past still cling to the air. These are the
places others might warn you not to go to. So
lace up your boots, grab a working flashlight, and join
us together. We'll tell the tails, hike the trails, and
raise a glass to the spirits, both spectral and distilled,
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who wait for us at the tavern's door. All right,
let's get into it. So the reason I'm doing, Franklin,
I got down there back in two thousand and seven.
We got back from my rack. Right. I got a
friend who lives in Tennessee, and I decided I was
gonna go take a ride down there and impromptu ride
down there and visit him. So I jumped in the truck.
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I drove eighteen hours from Rhode Island to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Bro, when you say Tennessee, I picture that rap song
take Me Too.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
So I.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Do you remember that song?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
No? I have no idea what the son is about
Tennis Oh okay, I remember.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Now you know what I'm doing about?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I'm weird for music and movies. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So yeah. After we got back from my rack in
September two thousand and seven, I decided I was going
to drive down to see my body around Halloween time,
and so I went down there, drove eighteen hours down
to Tennessee. I don't remember telling him that I was
going until I got there. I think it was sort
of a surprise trip, and so he had I really
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didn't know what to do while I was there. There
was a few days where he was still working, you know,
because obviously I didn't plan this, he didn't take time
off to hang out with me. So I had to
go find my own ship to do while I was
down there and we weren't hanging out and uh and
he lived in Franklin, Tennessee. And I ended up finding
the battlefield the Franklin, Tennessee. Franklin, Yeah, the Franklin, Tennessee
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battlefield of the Civil War that happened there back in
eighteen sixty four. And I think I realized later A
couple of years later, I was reading like a I
had like a book that had a bunch of ghost
stories in it, and I came across one that was
talking about Franklin, Tennessee, and I was like, no, shit,
I've been there. I didn't realize that it was that haunted,
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you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yoh and uh.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, So obviously there's something going on there. So I
decided to look into it, digg into the history a
little bit, and I found, dude, I found a bunch
about Tennessee, about this place.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh, you have piqued my interests, so proceed.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I will get into it. So this is we're all.
This is all about the Battle of Franklin. A blood
red sunset on the Civil War. Okay, So the Battle
of Franklin fought on No. Eighteen sixty four. It was
one of the most ferocious and tragic engagements of the
American Civil War. It marked a devastating chapter in the
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Franklin Nashville Campaign, as Confederate General John Bell Hood launched
a frontal assault against fortified Union positions in Franklin, Tennessee.
In just five hours of brutal combat, more than eighty
five hundred soldiers were killed, wounded, or missing, and the
Confederate Army of Tennessee was left shattered beyond repair.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Damn So the Union went in there and kicked their ass.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
They weren't trying to, but they did.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
To understand Franklin's significance, we need to step back a
few months. By mid eighteen sixty four, the Confederacy was
on the defensive. General William Takumso Sherman had captured Atlanta,
dealing a blow to the Southern morale. Meanwhile, Confederate General
Hood hoped to strike northward into Tennessee, disrupting Union supply lines,
recapturing Nashville, and perhaps turning the title war in the
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western theater. Hood's plant was desperate, but bold. He believed
that with speed and aggression he could defeat Union General
John Scholfield's Army of the Ohio before it could reach
the safety of Nashville and link up with General George Thomas.
Hood's men, hungry, ill equipped, and exhausted, marched northward northward
into Tennessee. By late November, Scholfield was retreating north, hoping
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to delay Hood long enough to reach Nashville on the
morning of November thirtieth. But on the morning of November thirtieth,
Showfield arrived in the town of Franklin, a small crossroads
community just south of Nashville. He quickly ordered his men
to begin constructing strong defensive earthworks just south of town
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along the Harpeth River. These fortifications would become the site
of the most savage battles of the war. Franklin itself
was a quiet town before the battle. Holmes, churches and
farms dotted the landscape, but as thousands of blue uniformed
soldiers poured in, everything changed. Residents fled or took cover
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in basements. Union troops dug trenches, set up artillery, and
turned fences, lugs, and earth into formidable defenses. Hood arrived
later that day. Rather than wait for reinforcements or try
to flank the enemy, he made a fateful choice. He
ordered a full frontal assault on the Union lines. Despite
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the clear advantages of the Union's in trench position, Hood
was convinced that overwhelming force and the element of surprise
would break Schofield's army. At four pm, as the November
sun began to sink low on the horizon, the Confederate
assault began. Nearly twenty thousand Southern soldiers emerged from the
Tree line in a two mile wide battle line, a
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site said to resemble Pickett's charge at Gettysburg, only larger
and deadlier. It was one of the last great charges
of the Civil War. You see why getting to Getty's
Burg next week had to jump on this one.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Tell this story right, Yeah, no, I got it. So.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The attack was brutal from the start. Confederate troops were
met with withering musket fire and deadly blast of canister
shot from Union artillery. In the center of the line,
at a place called Carter's Hill, the Confederate surge toward
a weak point in the Union defenses. Briefly they broke through,
and savage hand to hand combat erupted In the gap.
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Men fought with bayonets, rifle butts, knives, and bare hands.
Blood stained the cold earth. One Confederate later described the
scene as a whirlpool of death.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Right Union reinforcements quickly rushed into the seal breach in
to seal the breach, and the fighting raged well into
the evening. In the dim light, amid smoke and screams,
Soldiers tumbled over bodies and fired blindly all across the line.
The Confederates saw faltered under the sheer power of the
Union defense, yet Hood's men kept coming. By nine pm,
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it was over. The Confederates assault had failed catastrophically. In
just five hours, Hood's army had suffered nearly sixty three
hundred casualties, a staggering number. Among the dead were six
Confederate generals, and seven more were wounded or captured. One
of the most heartbreaking losses was that of General Patrick Clayburne,
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known as the stone Wall of the West, beloved by
his n He was killed leading his division into the
Maelstrom Jesus So. Union losses, though significant, were far lighter
by comparison, around twenty three hundred killed, wounded or missing.
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Sheffield's army had held firm that very night under cover
of darkness. He ordered a withdrawal to Nashville, having bloodied
Hood's army so badly it would never fully recover. The
aftermath of the Battle of Franklin was horrific. The fields
south of the town were littered with bodies, many mutilated beyond recognition.
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The Carter House, at the center of the Union line
became a makeshift hospital in Morgue. Blood soaked the floorboards,
wounded men filled every room. Civilians who had hidden and
sellars emerged to a town transformed into a charnel house
for the Confederate Army of Tennessee. Franklin was a disaster.
Hood's reckless assault cost him the very heart of his army,
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experienced officers, veteran soldiers, and any realist chance of turning
the war. Around two weeks later, he would face Union
forces again at the Battle of Nashville, and there his
army would be utterly destroyed.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Now, this is a lot going on here.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
So is this.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Gettysburger post.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That I don't know? This has got to be pre Gettysburg. Okay,
this is November nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Historians have debated Hood's decision to attack at Franklin ever since.
Some blame his personally ambition or desperation. Others argue he
underestimated the Union defenses or overestimated the morale of his men.
Whatever the cause, the result was the same one of
the war's bloodiest and most futile assaults. Today, the Battle
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of Franklin is remembered as a tragedy of valor and miscalculation.
Preservation efforts have worked to reclaim the battlefield, and visitors
can now walk the grounds, visit the Carter House, the
Lot's House, and the Carton Plantation, where many Confederate dead
were buried.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
For I guess one minute, what's up? So this is uh,
I did a quick search. This is post Gettysburg.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, this is afterwards.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, Gettysburg was July third through July third, eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So what I'm what I'm guessing is is that the
the the Confederate probably.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Made it as far as Gettysburg.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They lost, And then what I'm assuming is is the
Union probably pressed them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, and even more down to the south. That's the
assumption I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think this was more of like part of the
last ditch effort.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
To last That's what I mean, this was like.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The last ditch effort of the for the Confederate on
me and.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
They got folded.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I just wanted to throw that out there, just search cool.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
So the Carton House itself uses a field hospital, still
bears the stains of surgery and suffering. Its porch became
a place of mourning as the bodies of dead Confederate
generals were laid outside by side. Franklin stands as a
reminder of the human cost of war, a place where
bravery met carnage and where thousands of young men fell
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in the battle. It did little to change the war's outcome,
but profoundly shaped the lives of those who survived.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
This is kind of like like like when in World
War two, and like we pressed the Nazis all the
way back to Germany, and at that point they literally
were handing like fourteen year old's fucking.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Rifles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Right, Yeah, this, this army of Tennessee was decimated after
this one. So that's the battle. And I walked, I
walked around the battlefield in that area of Franklin. It
was it was pretty intense. I mean you can get
up on the hill and you can see where everything happened.
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You know. You look, they've got like this big diagram
up on one of the hills and you can look
down on the entire battlefield, or at least the part
of it that's still open field, and you can see
where the hills are stuff like that, and you can
see what. You know, it shows all the different lines
and the little timeline of how it happened, because I mean,
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this battle lasted five hours.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You know, Jesus Christ. And how many people died.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Eighty five hundred total, eighty five hundred dead, missing or wounded,
and I mean something. It depends on where you read it,
because I read you know, there's there's one spot online
that says over ten thousand, another one this is eighty
five hundred, you know what I mean. So, but they
were saying that some of the dead were so mutilated
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that you couldn't tell who they were like they were.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I'm sure there's people that got hit by cannon balls
that just turned into fucking miss you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, you know, you hit do the grape Have you
ever seen like the grape shot that they used in cannons.
It's just like it's like a ball It's like maybe
a quarter of the size of a baseball is still
a massive steel ball. And they fired like twenty of
them out of my cannon.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And it's just and that's mowing like ten people down
in one shot.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Seriously, it's like a shotgun, I mean a shotgun blast
basically from a cannon. It's just wiping lines of people out,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Jesus, I'm so glad I served in the military.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Time I did, right, Can I am all set at
that fixed bay and nuts handy handshit?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Fuck that right?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Or you get shot and you're like, oh, gotta cut
it off, like what like Hielan's no fucking anesthesia or
fucking no.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They were like here, bite down on this.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, bit down on this, and fucking we're chopping your
leg from the knee down.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
God, absolutely nuts. So you gotta imagine, like that much death,
that much bloodshed, this place is probably extremely haunted, right.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You would think.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You gotta imagine it, right, you gotta imagine how haunted
this place is. You gotta imagine if the blood of
thousands soaks into the earth, the land's never gonna forget.
So the Battle of Franklin lasted barely five hours. But
the terror in Unleash has echoed across the centuries, and
in some places they say the echoes never faded away.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I don't think they ever will fade away.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I mean, how could they that much carnage do? Ridiculous?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And you know, they say that it's like one of
one of the phases that a ghost can Like some
ghosts don't even realize they're dead, Like every day is
ground Hog Day to them, right, They're living in this
constant loop of when they were alive. Yeah, so they're
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just there's probably spirits wandering those grounds still thinking they're
fighting in the battle.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of people who have
seen spirits and the state, like I know, Gettysburg is
super wanted. What was the do you still at the
Gettysburg pulled up? What's the death toll at Gettysburg?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh my god, let me let me.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Just oh, I want to hear that one real quick,
and see take a.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Holy fuck all right? Ready?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Twenty eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Wow, Wow, holy shit.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And seventy five percent was Confederate of the twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Eight How did they even have anybody left to fight
in Franklin?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I have no fucking idea.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
But seven it says right here, it's it's estimated over
twenty eight thousand and seventy five percent was confronted it.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's nuts. That's a lot, man. I can't wait to
get out there. So I'm going to I'm gonna step
from there.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
In three days they lost, fucking it's like a mini
mini city.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, three days for fighting, three.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Days of fighting, twenty eight thousand dead, yep. And then
it says right here, six sixty five thousand wounded.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm going to step away from the history and I'm
going to get into the hauntings that are going on
in Franklin. Even before the battle, the town of Franklin
had a share of spectral murmurs. But after that blood death,
the soil turned into something else, entirely haunted, cursed, saturated
with grief and rage and unfinished death. Today it isn't
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just Civil War historians who walk the battlefield. Ghost hunters, psychics, skeptics,
and the simply curious will all make pilgrimages here, drawn
to something deeper and darker than just historical interest. That's
part of the reason I was checking it out. Well,
I didn't realize it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Then, But well you connecting the dots, connecting.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The dots, buddy, here we are. So we just started
the Carter House. So this is the one I mentioned before,
the heart of the killing field. At the center of
it all stands the Carter House, a simple brick farmhouse
turned wartime fortress. During the battle, it was the Union
command post, located barely one hundred yards behind the front lines.
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Damn the Carter family, men, women, children huddled in the
basement as bullets ripped through.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
The walls above E Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Today visitors during visitors touring the house report cold spots,
sudden drops in temperature, even on the hottest summer day.
Guides speak of the phantom smell of gunpowder, the sharp
scent of iron like fresh blood in the air. Disembodied voices, whispers, sobbing,
and the deep roar of long gone cannon fire are
often reported late in the evening.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Was this one of the places that was turned into
a makeshift hospital?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah? That was the Uh, this was the one that
was the It was right behind the front lines, so
this was right in the middle.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
But they turned it into like a mankeshift.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I think after Yeah, this is the one that I
think this is the one that they said the generals
were all the dead generals were laid out in the porch.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The most unnerving accounts come from those who have stood
alone in the Carter House parlor and claim to hear
footsteps pacing the wooden floor upstairs, slow deliberate, like a
sentry who never left his post. One guest described looking
up the stairwell and lock eyes with a figure dressed
in gray, only for it to vanish the moment she blinked. Perhaps,
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but perhaps the most chilling of it all is the
seller Carter family's safe haven during the battle is now
said to be anything but Taurusts describe an overwhelming feeling
of being watched, of dread crawling over their skin like
a swarm of ants. Mediums claim the basement holds not
one spirit, but dozens soldiers, civilians, and something else darker,
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something very angry.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
If anything's going to conjure up and negative vanities, it's
gonna be something like a gruesome battlefield.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Right. You get that much anger, that much death craziness
going on, that's a lot of I mean, you gotta
imagine battles like that produce a lot of energy, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh yeah, so that we're going to move on to
the Lot's House, so lo otz lots.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Across the street is the Lot's House, another civilian home
caught in the storm of war. Here, the floors were
soaked in blood as the wounded were dragged in and
piled high. So I think this is the one that
was used as a makeshift. Local lore claims that the
blood soaked so deeply into the wood that even today,
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faint reddish stains resurface after rainstorms. Many say the Lot's
House is the most haunted building in Tennessee. Visitors here
moaning and screaming echoing through the halls at night.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Jesus, that's fucking creepy house.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Visitors here moaning and screaming echoing through the halls at night,
and report phantom hands tugging at their clothing, Furniture moves
on its own, doors slam in empty rooms, and a
spectral child is often seen near the stairway, weeping and
then vanishing into the floorboards.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Bro there's an episode.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I don't want to get too off topic here, but
there's an episode on a haunting. You know how we've
We've referred that show before on the podcasts. There's an
episode where this couple, they were an older couple and
they bought like a nice like old school southern plantation.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I can't remember if it was Tennessee or it was
like Georgia.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It was somewhere down south. Make a long story short.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So they were an older couple and they had two
daughters that were in college, and one of the daughters
had her fiancee who was like from I think he
was from like up like Vermont in New Hampshire. Yeah,
come down and spend the week with his girlfriend and
his girlfriend's family. And when he spent the night there, Bro,
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it was like he got possessed by like the ghost
of a Confederate soldier.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, dude, Like who.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Was some kid from fucking New Hampshire. And he's like
he's like speaking in cage in Bro, Like he's muttering
things in French because like French was a widely spoken
language in the South, and like he's talking about the.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Horror and the blood and the bloodshed and the naked
stop and like, dude, it was a wacky yet like
the entire night he was just in full on terror.
Rambling like he.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Was literally possessed by by a fucking Confederate soldier.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Dude, that's crazy, Like, like I said, like he didn't
he didn't know a word of French, he didn't know
any that ship just start speaking French.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
And talking, talking, and cage and it's that's crazy. Yeah,
if I ever find out that episode, because we're gonna
start diving.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Into that with this and getting squerg I'm gonna I'm
gonna fucking.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
We're gonna mention it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, I just wanted to add that because that was
like the family was.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Like, what the fuck? You know what I mean, Like
it was a experience.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Dude. Still in the uh to get off topic, but.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Interesting thing that's throwing there.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Still in the Lots house, in the upstairs bedroom where
Confederate officers once laid dying e vps have captured, whispering voices, names, commands,
and once a chilling growl that said don't run.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, that's the opposite thing. Minute with something.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
People speak of mirrors that fog from the inside and
shadows that fall in the wrong direction. That's weird. One
woman fainted after claiming she saw a row of soldiers
standing silently at the foot of her bed in the
guest room, staring at her with hollow, unblinking eyes. All right.
The next one is the Carton Plantation, the Porch of
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the Dead.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Oh boy, this is a This lives up to its moniker.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right. Then there's Carton Plantation, turned into a makeshift field
hospital during the battle. Blood soaked every room. The floor
still bear stains where surgeons performed amputations with anesthesia. The
dead were stacked like corded wood on the front porch.
The same porch became the temporary resting place for six
Confederate generals Claybourn, Straw, Granberry, Gist, Adams, and Carter, laid
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out side by side as the remaining men filled past
filed past In the morning. People say those generals never left.
Guests have seen spectral figures on the porch in full
military regalia, visible for only a moment before they vanish
into the stone. Others report a pale woman in a
morning dress wandering the garden with a lantern, calling out
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a name no one recognizes. Some believe she's the ghost
of Carrie mcgavic, known as the Widow of the South,
who buried nearly fifteen hundred Confederate soldiers on her land.
After the war, it said, her spirit still walks among
the graves, checking names, searching for someone lost. Some nights
you can hear the shuffle of boots, the low moan
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of a dying man drifting across the fields. Dogs refuse
to go near the Carton Cemetery, and children cry when
brought close to it. One psychic who visited claimed, the
land weeps beneath your feet. So now we move on
to the battlefield. The battlefield itself, now partially preserved, remains
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perhaps the most ominous space of all. Walk it at
twilight and you might hear the phantom musket fire or
the low rattle of drums. People speak of ghost soldiers
caught in a loop, running the same charge over and over,
always falling, always dying. So that's what you were talking
about before, about being caught in a loop and just
doing the whole Groundhog Day thing as a ghost forever. Yes, until,
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I mean, hopefully they get to a point where the
energy runs out and they move the hell on.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I mean, I don't know if they do, man.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I don't know, you know, never gonna yep, never gonna
know that one. The spot where General Adams was decapitated
by cannon fire is said to carry a curse oh God.
Legend claims that no birds sing near that place. Ghost
hunters have reported their equipment malfunctioning, batteries dying instantly, video
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going black just his figures step into view. In the
woods south of the main field, there's a patch of
ground locals called the Hollow of Bones. Legend says unmarked
graves were hardly dug there under moonlight. Strange lights are
seen floating among the trees, and some have heard the
sound of a pick axe hitting rock, digging, digging, long
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after the dead were buried. A Civil War reenactor once
camped along near the hollow, claiming he woke up to
see a ring of uniform men silently standing around his tent,
rifles at their side, eyes glowing dimly in the dark,
and they vanished with the dawn.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
This is definitely a very fuck.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Right, So gentleman's getting their heads blown off, like what
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, what do they call it? The the Hollow of
bones where unmarked graves were laid?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, And then I'm sure they rebuilt the town at
some point and stumbled upon those bones, and it's like
the whole vicious cycle of pulpit ice just continues to
go on.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, I mean this battle didn't just happen in the
in one field off the side of the town like
this happened. It was all around the town essentially.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I mean, the battle happens, they bury these people.
Then you know, forty years later it's like, this is
a nice area to build a mill, and it's like, oh,
it just came across five hundred unmarked graves, right, nothing
to see here.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
We'll just you know, shuffle these bones somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And I mean the whole idea is like the boars
in the house are so soaked with blood that they
still that they still have red stains in them. Dude, Like,
that's that's nuts.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
So you you went into the houses.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I didn't know. I didn't go into any of the
houses when I was there. I just saw the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
But still to this day.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
That's what it says, Yeah, that'd.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Do people live in these houses? Are they?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Like? Just like, uh, I think these ones, these ones
are all like I think they're tourist attractions. Now, nobody's
nobody's living in these days.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
But they're not as wacky as that's know England to
a sweepy.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Oh yeah, somebody would be. Somebody would post up in
that house be like, I'm gonna bring this back to its.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Original I'm gonna live here and my family.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
We're gonna invite all the all the in laws over
for for Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
You know, Jesus Christ, We're.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Gonna do a seance on Sunday night. We're built different
here in New England. That's that's definitely true.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's just yeah, man, we just there's so much history.
We're just like fuck it.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
So moving on to nowadays, in the town of Franklin,
so modern encounters. Shop owners downtown tell of flickering lights,
objects flying off the shelves, and footsteps on upper floors
long after closing. Some some say every historic building in
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town has at least one spirit. Paranormal investigators come in
droves and nearly all of them leave with stories, audio recordings,
photos of misty apparitions, cold breezes in sealed rooms. One
well known case involves a local inn near the battlefield.
Guests reportedly complained of a man in gray standing at
the foot of their beds. Sometimes sobbing, sometimes shouting in fury.
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The inn tried to debuct the claims until a housekeeper
quit on the spot after she was locked in a
room by an invisible force. The air suddenly filled with
the smell of blood. So why does Franklin remain haunted
one hundred and fifty years later? I'm sure I think,
after listening all this, we probably already know the answer
of it. Some say it's the sheer violence of the battle,
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thousands of men dying in one evening, many buried where
they fell, many never identified. Some believe the pain, fear,
and rage that are that night are imprinted on the land,
repeating in endless cycles. And others think the spirits are
restless because so many died suddenly and senselessly, never granted peace.
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When you walk those fields, especially at dusk, you may
feel something following you. You may hear footsteps behind you
when no one is there. You may feel a sudden
sadness you can't explain, the grip of a cold hand
that vanishes when you turn. These are not just ghost stories,
They are memories etched in shadow. Because in Franklin, Tennessee,
the dead still march, the wounded still cry out and
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the haunted houses that line the old Road whisper one
thing over and over. We are not gone. El kuya kashah.
So what do you think ben place haunted enough for you?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
It's pretty fucking goddamn haunted, dude, definitely.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Uh. It's got me pumped that I'm gonna be going
to get Atsburgh in less than two weeks.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I know, right, I feel like a place gets this
haunted from eighty five to ten thousand men dying. What
do you think is gonna happen in a place that
are twenty eight thousand people died in three days? Jesus,
we gotta do a little bit of go something. We're
out there, we're gonna check it out. We're gonna scoping around,
cameras on.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Eyes up, yeah, yeah, man, keep your head on a swizzle.
Let's go do this shit.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That's it man. And so that's Franklin, Tennessee. Man, that
was a that was a fun time. Like I said,
I went back there back in O seven. I went
there in nine, visited the same friend, check places out,
went down to Nashville. You know, very cool place. Man.
If you've never been to Nashville, you should go Nashville
an awesome city.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Oh yeah, I've been in Nashville. It was years ago,
but I've been there.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Thanks for listening as always, man, we appreciate everybody, uh
listen to the episodes following us on social media stuff.
I hope everybody can get out to uh get out
to Penhurst Para con Man. I'm gonna have a blast
while out there. Okay, So we'll be out there, We'll
be walking around and I'm trying to figure out, like
you were saying about how to how to be a
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vendor there next year. Oh yeah, but I did hear.
I did hear from somebody who does that that it
goes you have to sign up the year prior essentially.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I mean that's gonna be the first thing to be
asked Saturday.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Did like like we need to flag some people down
and and and get on top of that asap.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, that's it was like from what I understand, from
what I've been told, the venders we get set up
the year before the sign up starts at Penner's Paragon
for the next year.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Well, I have no no no qualms about busting up
the plastic and fucking preserving us a spot, right I'm
sure you feel the same way too, dude.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks everybody for listening. As always, get out
there and find your spirits.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
So h.