🎙️ S1 – EP 20 🎙️ “Cleared for Takeoff: Flippo & Lustick on Aviation, Community, and Nevada’s Future” - Talk With A Conservative (T.W.A.C!)

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in North Las Vegas and I am an attorney at
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Tonight.

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We're joined by special guest Jeff Lestick and we'll tell
more about him. And retired Lieutenant Colonel Dave Flippo is
our guest host tonight and he's a candidate for congressional
District Iour.

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You're listening to talk with a conservative, which tradition meets truth.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
So denight. Our guest is Jeffrey Lesson. Jeffrey is an attorney,
former j An aviator and current news correspondent for aviation
issues at the airport, and he is a former candidate
for eighty eleven.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Welcome Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Hi, it's nice to be here you guys.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yes, And right off the bat, we have a caller
for you commited Hello caller, Hi, Drew, and you have
a question for Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
Yeah, I wonder what they had responded to. I was
in sure if they did an overview yet of the
the that Ben has no perry value being part of
the board of you know, the fuel company, And I
wonder how we can kind of address that question.

Speaker 9 (03:57):
So the caller is talking about a project that I'm
working on. I am the attorney for the hangar Owners
group at North Las Vegas Airport and this has been
a process where we have discovered a lot of irregularities
what we believe are irregularities, and we've also discovered a
major conflict of interests. We believe that a high ranking

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manager at the airport who also is the manager over
our general aviation airports in Henderson in North Las Vegas
and we believe that this individual has a conflict of
interest because in addition to working for the county, he
also serves on the board of directors of one of
the fuel companies that is in a position to have
the major contract at these airport. Department of Aviation is

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denying this, and they're saying that we're smearing this person,
and the person is taking it real personal. But you know,
under Nevada lot it's clear when you have competing loyalties,
you can't have loyalties to just one. When you serve
on a board of directors for a contract that you
also administer as a public agent, that violates state law.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
That sounds like a conflict of.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Interests and that's what I hear.

Speaker 9 (05:03):
But the only people who think it isn't a conflict
of interest, apparently are the people within the Clark County
Department of Aviation. And what our expectations are is that
there'll be an audit and that this individual will be
asked to leave the department, because we have conflict of
interest laws in this country to prevent the public's interests
from being overridden by one individual influencing group, and that's

(05:26):
really what we have here. So that's the kind of
work I'm doing right now working with the Hangar Owners
Group in North Las Vegas and also in Henderson, And
it's a lot of the work that I've done in
my career advocacy, advocacy for veterans. I know that's an
issue that Lieutenant Colonel Flippo believes in very much. Too
are disabled veterans that they can always use more support.

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I am a volunteer with the American Legion. I have
been with the American Legion now for fifteen years as
a JAG as a legal officer for them, and I've
also been a service officer and I've helped individuals get
their discharges up with the Board for Correction of Military Records.
I have served as a judge for four years in
Washington State, and I've also been a United States Attorney

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as well as a uniformed officer in the United States
Air Force, where I served probably for twelve years in
the Judge Avacate General Court. I was both a prosecutor
and a defense counsel. So that's the tradition you talk
about tradition meeting truth. That was my truth, my tradition,
and when I ran for office in District eleven. Those
were the kind of the highlights of the things that
I had done.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
In the past.

Speaker 9 (06:28):
And I'm called to leadership. I'm called to leadership in
the community. And I got to tell you something. I
say as I look across the room and I see Garland,
and I see Patricia, and I see David, I could
not ask to be on a show with three people
that I admire so much. You know, David, you campaigned
with me, you supported me, you endorsed me during my campaign.

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The Brinkleys endorsed me during my campaign, and I endorsed
the ease of you, and we campaigned door to door,
all of us. And what a pleasure it is to
be here on this night here in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I couldn't think of a better group of people to
on the air with.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
And you guys, well, thank you.

Speaker 10 (07:02):
The issue of about pricing, gas pricing and hand pricing,
what is the issues?

Speaker 9 (07:07):
That's a good question, David, And I know Drew, and
I know that he's affected by this. What you have
essentially is a monopoly by the fuel company and pressure
placed on the airport to get more visitors into Las Vegas,
and so they picture making North Las Vegas into a
mini version of Harry Reid Airport, and they want to

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expand the airport, and to do this, they need to
remove about one hundred and fifty private hangers. And these hangers,
you know, when you picture a hanger in your mind,
it's basically a.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Garage for an airplane.

Speaker 9 (07:39):
But the people that own these hangers are the everyday people,
the people, the blue collar pilots, the retired military pilots.

Speaker 10 (07:48):
And you're talking such just one hundred and dy hangars.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
There's what multiple aircraft werein.

Speaker 9 (07:52):
Well, these are tea hangers and aim they are simple hangars.
They're one like cessna's and pipers and beachcrafts, and that's thing.
And the hangar is about one hundred and sixty to
two hundred thousand dollars investment. But you know, the airport
wants to remove these hangars and hand it over to
the private company so the private company can occasionally par
park big jets there. And what we call this basically

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is the privatization of a public resource. And we saw
that in North Last Vegas during F one and during
Super Bowl, where they were charging up to ten thousand
dollars to land on the runway.

Speaker 10 (08:26):
Well, it'll be interesting to see the noise abatement, right,
I mean, right now you're talking, says nos Right, I mean,
let's start bringing in these big jets.

Speaker 9 (08:34):
There are jets there too, there are citation jets and
all stream jets. But they do want to straighten the
run They want to lengthen the runway. And when they
lengthen the runway, they're going to be able to bring
in seven thirty sevens and they're going to be able
to bring in large, larger jets than they have now.
And we do believe that the neighbors will be affected

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by this. So the airport has a con We believe
they have a conflict of interest. We believe they have
a tenant to want to take away hangars and privatize that.
And at the same time, how are they serving the
community's interests. These are questions that we've laid on the table.
We're expecting the county commissioners to take this up on
September second at ten am, where I will be with
a bunch of other people to make statements and give

(09:17):
testimony to the commission.

Speaker 10 (09:18):
So they're actually talking about expanding the runway. And you know,
right now it's the commuter type jets, right, these big
seven thirty sevens. I mean, the noise that that's going
to bring into North Las Vegas, I can't imagine that's
going to be well received.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Well.

Speaker 9 (09:31):
North Las Vegas is the second largest airport in the state,
and one of the reasons for that is because of
the volume of air pilot schools flight schools, and on
any given day, when I'm about to take off, I
may have to wait thirty minutes to take off, but
if I am a larger jet, I might wait forty
five minutes to take off. So now if we have

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ten jets lined up to take off, you can imagine
the bottleneck that this creates.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
So the planet itself.

Speaker 9 (09:59):
We believe is being influenced by the fuel company and
the General Aviation Manager, who we believe has a conflict
of interest by serving as the vice chairman of the
board of the fuel company, and he administers this contract
and that gives great preference and a monopolistic approach, and
that's why they make these decisions. Otherwise they wouldn't be
making these decisions.

Speaker 10 (10:19):
So it was to say North Last Vegas issues at
a city, issues at a county issue.

Speaker 9 (10:23):
So it's a county issue because the Clark County Department
of Aviation is supervised by the Clark County Commissioners, and
I would dare say they need to be closer supervised.
There is a new director of the Clark County Department
of Aviation, Jim Kristley, and we're hoping to talk with
him and to get some of these issues answered, beginning

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with whether there's a conflict of interest and whether this
individual should continue to serve as the general aviation manager.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Okay, thank you Drew for your question.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I hope that answers your question. The King of long
winded answers.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
You guys, and well, you're an attorneys so and your
bile that you were in the US Air Force from
nineteen ninety seven through two thousand and nine, and you
were a JAG, which for people that don't know, is
a judge advocate general and you received a military citation.
So I give prefer you have very impressive of attorney

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credentials there and so your license in Free States, Washington,
Arizona and recently in Nevada, and you just opened your
own firm which is an aviation practice. And so we've
just heard a little bit about that. So callers, our
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And so, Jeffrey, you are an aviator.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
As well, that's right.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
And how long have you been a flying Oh?

Speaker 9 (12:18):
If I do the math, that's probably thirty eight years.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I think.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (12:22):
I started flying as a Civilar patrol cadet in nineteen
eighty five. I went to a ten day encampment where
I had no experience, and then at the end I
had soloed ASSESSMA one fifty and also completed my knowledge
test in the ground school, and after that I received
a scholarship from the Military Order of Dadelians, which is
a group of retired pilots, and it was a very

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good scholarship and I was able to get my license.
I got my license at age seventeen, but I didn't
have my driver's license, and.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
So I had to have my parents drive me to.

Speaker 9 (12:52):
The airport so I could fly them in an airplane.
And I've been flying ever since. I'm not a When
I was in a military everyone says, were you a pilot?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And I say, well, I flew a desk. You know
that's a joke.

Speaker 9 (13:05):
But I was a military prosecutor and a military Defense
Council and a staff Jagje advocate, and I continued to fly.
And as David Flippall can tell you, a lot of
people in the Air Force are they're not pilots for
the Air Force, but they're pilots in private life. And
we have a great system in the Air Force called
the Base Flying Club. And one of my first duties

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in my first job as lieutenant was to do an
accident investigation at the Base Flying Club at off At
Air Force Base. And it was a donut defense because
I was the only person wearing blues that day and
everyone was wearing BDUs and I got my picture in
the newspaper wearing blues, so I had to buy everybody donuts.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's a donut defense. And David, you know about those times.

Speaker 10 (13:44):
Hey, you know you got to be integrated somehow.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
So but yes, I've been a pilot ever since that age.
And for me, flying is is part therapy, part religion,
part relaxation. It's business is also because I brokeer buy
and sell airplanes, have been doing that for seventeen years,
and I just you know, flying is something that is

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very spiritual to me, especially now with some of the
challenges I've been facing with my health. And it's been
a really it's been really fun and I love to
take people flying. I want to officially and I've been
I've extended this invitation to the brick Leaves before and
I haven't been able to do this, but I have
also extended this invitation to David and now his wife.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I want to take you guys flying, okay, and I
can do this.

Speaker 9 (14:29):
I'll be able to take you guys flying shortly in
my Cessna and I want you to see this beautiful place.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
We live in a Sessna.

Speaker 9 (14:36):
I want you to see it from above because it
is really breathtaking, and I'm sure you'll just see a
different perspective.

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Speaker 5 (18:43):
Okay, And so we're here with Jeffrey Lesson and we
have Drew just called back again, so he has another question.
So we're going to take that question and caller Drew.
You have thirty seconds. Please thank you.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
Yeah, sorry, I got called up Garden School said thank
you number one. I just want to thank you for
having us on to give us a voice, and thank
jeff for being such a trooper. You know, one statement
I wanted to say is, you know, my son's nineteen.
He's a light sport mechanic and working towards ZMP. And
because of all this politics and throwing the businesses out,

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which happened because they were trying to get rid of
these smaller shops, well they did. Every time he called
up the shop who wanted to hire him, they were
in serious litigation with the airport and were eventually I
mean thrown out. I think as of the last few months,
he's our future aviator. So how are we going to
support the future of aviation If we're throwing kids out,
who are going to be the guys that are eventually

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going to be working on these jets and all that,
you know, ten years from now.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, it's I mean it's a bit of an existential question. Obviously.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
You know, these are things that we're going to have
to work on as a hangar owners group and as
a community.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
What is our airport? What is the definition of our airport?

Speaker 9 (19:55):
Is it purely designed for affluent people to come in
with their private jets and come into Vegas and leave,
or is there a community role to be served at
the airport, to have businesses that create future pilots and
future mechanics.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think it is the I think it is a ladder,
and I think you think it is a.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
Ladder, and that voice gets lost when you have people
that lead the airport that have conflict of interest and
they act out of special interest instead of community interests.
So we'll be looking at that and I think we're
probably going to be heading to litigation. It's too early
to know. We're hopeful that the County Commission will hear
our complaints and we'll make some improvements because we don't

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have any faith at all in the management that can
do that. But I think it's a good question, Drew,
and I think and I'm glad that you brought it up.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Okay, So during the twenty twenty four election cycle, you
ran for eighty eleven. How was that experience besides not
winning the general election?

Speaker 9 (20:50):
Well, everybody told me not to do it. They said
you're going to lose, and you're going to lose miserably.
And I actually had people that liked me but didn't
want to support me, you know, including the governor, which
I was surprised by because he didn't really support any
of us east Side candidates.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You're all shaking your head.

Speaker 9 (21:04):
He supported zero east Side candidates, which was a huge
mistake because.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I don't know that I can support him. But we
had a lot of support.

Speaker 9 (21:12):
And everybody said I couldn't do it. And what we
did do is we more than doubled the amount of
Republican votes at the ballot box in our district. It's
a predominantly it was a Jerry Mander district. It never
looked like that when I before I ran. They took
away some great active voters south of Charleston and they
gave me trailer park homes in North Las Vegas. I mean,

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that's what they did to the district. So it was
a tough district. I knew it would be a tough district.
And I think that whoever runs in the future, I
don't think it will be me, but whoever runs as
a Republican there is going to have a little bit
easier time because we did make some We registered over
three hundred new Republican voters.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
That was huge.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
We went door to door tremendously and it was a
great campaign. You both, all of you at this table
helped me get out there, and I really, I'm so
appreciative and I'm great. I'm grateful to be able to
tell you thank you so much for supporting me financially
and also in kind with your actions.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
So thank you.

Speaker 10 (22:09):
You know, you're exactly right, and those little gains are
going to matter because we've got twenty thirty coming up,
so we have three more voting cycles to win the
Assembly in the Senate, because that's when redistricting happens again,
and it's so important, and we can't ignore the east
Side at all because of that right. We have to
take little steps over the next six years to get

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to twenty thirty and being controlled of the Assembly in
the Senate.

Speaker 13 (22:33):
You know.

Speaker 9 (22:33):
And I hate to put it like east side versus
West side thing, but it really is the way it is.
And I think that there has to be a special
understanding of what's going on on the east side. It's
more economically difficult to live on the east side of
Las Vegas. Real estate prices are lower. People aren't moving
in for flipping houses or investing houses. And the people

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there do need significant assistance with education and drugs and
crime and jobs and social issues. And these are all
things that can be addressed by leaders in our community.
I want to give a shout out to al Rojas.
Al Rojas is a leader on the east Side. I
believe he's going to run for Senate. I don't know
if he's announcement. I think he's going for state Senate.

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And he's a good friend of mine. And what a
what a what a great combadre. I mean, he has
a great voice. He's working on the east Side.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (23:23):
I think it's the east Side Conservative town Hall. I
think that's the name of it.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
And David, you were just there to that's where I
just came from.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
That's right, so well now unfortunately he had it set
on the same time radio.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
Well you know, it's you know, a rolling stone gathers
no moss. And we got to keep moving because we
really believe that Nevada is read at heart. We really
believe that the conservative way of thinking makes our lives better.
It produces better outcomes in the long term, socially, morally, ethically,
and we know that our leaders need help because it's
been it's been a blue state for so long, and

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people just they stamp out that ballot, blue, blue Democrat.

Speaker 10 (24:01):
I think it's time for them to wake up because
you know, for how many years now they've been represented
by the Democrat Party on the CD one and CD
four on that on that east side, and it's time
for them to be represented again.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
But here's the thing, and I got to address this,
and I think David's right, but you are true conservative,
and there are so many people that are not true conservatives.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Like my friend Yudasha.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
She always talks about rhinos, people in sheep's clothing, and
we have got to be careful to vet our candidates.
We want conservatives, people that believe in social conservatives and
people that believe in economic conservatives that were believe in freedom's,
freedom of speech, freedom of association, self determination.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
David believes in that. I know you do too.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
That's what we need. Those are the conservatives we need
in office. And I have to say we have some
people that are not like that, yes, and they're Republicans.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
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thing about the aviators. All right, I mean I'm just
in awe of it. But anyhow, I noticed that you

(25:14):
do estate planning for aviators and in California and my
practice I was a state planner Wilson Trust in Probate administration.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
And so that kind of interests me.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
What is different between doing a trust for an aviator
than a regular couple or individual.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
Well, I think it's a peace of mind thing, you know,
and it's also recognition that sometimes you're going to have
some unusual assets to account for and how those assets
should be disposed, And sometimes aviators have difficulty getting insurance
policies and we have to structure the estate around that.
So there's some unique just some unique issues that go
through that. But I think it's it's it takes one

(25:52):
to know one, you know. I mean, being a pilot
is a special kind of person. Being an aviator a
special kind of interest, and so I think that that's
been one of the things that's helped me click with
my clients. And I really love serving the entire community.
But it's a great it's a great feeling when you
have someone that's also a pilot or even a veteran,
even a military veteran. You know, it's just great to

(26:14):
be able to serve the community.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
I just want to remind our listeners next Monday we
will not be live. We will be taking a day
off for Labor Day, be rebroadcasting two of our highest
rated shows with doctor hal Shaw and our minister Mark
Bassett of Bright Angel Church.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
So that should be interesting.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
We have a caller, who are we.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Speaking with.

Speaker 14 (26:41):
Friends?

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Good evening, Frank, how are you? What's your question?

Speaker 14 (26:45):
I'm doing it a statement and a question if you
guys have noticed in the last few elections and in
the areas that are trying to turn red, they keep
losing the elections by the exact amount or close to
the exact amount of independent voters because Republicans teach shunning
people who aren't one hundred percent conservative in all matters,

(27:06):
like they're not part of the movement. What are you
guys going to do to start bringing these people in,
even if you slightly disagree on maybe five percent of
the matters. And also to help Nevado, why don't we
bring a manufacturer here like Glock.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Black.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
Yeah, it's good to hear your voice again, Frank, I
haven't seen you in a while.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
It's really nice to hear your voice. And I want
to give David.

Speaker 9 (27:33):
And Patricia chance answers to One of the things I
advocated during the campaign was an oil refinery. And I
really felt that an oil finery would do well in
Nevada because we get all of our gas and oil,
well not all of it, but the majority of it
from California. And I grew up in an oil family.
I grew up in a union oil family. My dad
was union president for many years in the OCAW.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 9 (27:54):
We just had an opportunity, and maybe it wasn't the
most golden opportunity, but we had an opportunity to have
a Hollywood East. We could have had a distruct in
in in southwest Nevada and southwest Las Vegas that would have.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Been the movie industry, and it was not accepted.

Speaker 9 (28:11):
And I think that that we should have a manufacturing
Of course, we have Tesla. I don't know if they're
still around. I think they are, but I think you're right.
And then the other question was, you know, how do
we bring people into the party, And you know, I
just said, you know that we need conservative candidates, but
there are some great people out there that are moderates,
and there's great people out there.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That have the ideas.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
And what it really, what it really comes down to
is being a conservative is having the open mind to
build connections within your community, to build allies, to build
people that you can work with and that have the
same ideas. Because we're all changing our ideas, we're all
we're all coming to new let me let me clarify it,

(28:50):
so we're all coming to understand the world as it unfolds,
and the world as it changes, and that the coalitions
that exist today in the conservative part of the Republican
Party are very different than they were thirty years ago.
You go back thirty years ago and everything was upside down,
you know, And so now we have got to be
ready for that metamorphosis as a party. And I do
see it happening. And I think we're a stronger party.

(29:12):
And I think candidates like David and Patricia and Brinkley,
I think are Marlon Garlt. I think I think that
we represent the new candidates.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
Yeah, so you know, I would just add to that,
we are we're hitting the independent voters really hard because
we believe that this next election cycle we're gonna be
able to flip it's a possibility of flipping all three
of these congressional seats. And the reason is because the
three Democrats that are sitting here have all voted to
raise your taxes, they voted to keep men in women's

(29:44):
loccer rooms, all the things that they're doing that just
doesn't make sense to independence and even moderate Democrats. So
we're hitting it really hard. But the independent voters and
the nonpartisans, and this is an issue with the DMV.
If you're listening out there, check your registration because the
DMV they may have you down as nonpartisans. So don't

(30:05):
hesitate to just get on there and find out what
you actually are registered as, because we need you to
vote in the primary and we need you in the general.
So but to just point and everything, the independent voters
are going to show up in force, I believe because
they cannot vote in favor of what the Democrats that
are sitting in those seats right now support.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Okay, so we have a question, what about the water
and energy issues on the east side, Jeffrey.

Speaker 9 (30:36):
I mean, I'm not sure what they're asking about the
water and the energy issues.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Not really sure.

Speaker 10 (30:42):
Are we talking utilities? Are we talking water utilities?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
As we know that Nevada, Nevada does not have sufficient water.

Speaker 10 (30:49):
So I can tell you this as far as what
I've tried working with with Lauren Bobert, Congressmanoman Overt and
Congressman Gosar, all part of the Colorado River, you know,
conglomerate there. I have talked to Bobert about the water
issues and how we can solve that once I'm in Congress.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Well that's so the clarification is I guess Nevada has
given up all their water and the energy bills are
too high. How can those things be fixed for the consumer?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, I think more energy for one.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
You know, we we we hesitate as a society to
go into new forms of energy. Solar wasn't working. I
mean the Ivanpah plant. What did that cost twenty one
billion dollars or something like that, and they're going to
rip it down. There's a complete waste. You know, there
are new technologies that need to be developed, but there's
also some technologies like clean burning fuel and energy product production,

(31:45):
and I advocated for that during the campaign. I took
a lot of heat from my opponent, who was an
environmental extremist, but she hid that from the voters. And
so you know, when I came out of her favorite
oil refineries, they hammered me on that.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
But it didn't work.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
I mean, granted I did win the election, but I
still had a double digit increase in the amount of
support for the candidacy that I had and for the
ideas that I had.

Speaker 10 (32:08):
So yeah, when it comes to energy, you know, we've
got to look at government getting involved.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Right.

Speaker 10 (32:13):
Whenever a government gets involved and they start mandating electric
or they start mandating solar and things like that. What
we need is a all encompassing energy policy. Right, we
already don't have enough energy production to support the electric
cars that we have on the roads right now, So
how are we going to do it for you know,
another ninety five percent of the cars? Right, So when
the government gets involved in those things, what it does

(32:34):
is it changes the price, right because now there's a demand.
It's a supply and demand issue.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
And I also believe it free enterprise, absoluting technology, free
marketing technologies. You know this mandate that they have in
California that's coming up to make you know, I think
every car and.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
I thought Trump issued it is that could afford it.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
Yeah, that'll be a legal battleground to see if that
happens true. But see that's the idea that it represents.
It's not ready, it's not going to work, and we
need good ideas that solve these problems because you know,
some of the technologies are being stifled.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I think by there's no.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
One size fits all, and that's why you need an
all encompassing policy. You go, tried doing solar in Alaska
when it's dark half the year, it doesn't work. You
have to have an all encompassing party that policy that
each state should be deciding on their energy policies and
their sources because each state has different energy you know, productions.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
So here's another question. People in some of them are
losing their grass lawns because of the lack of water.
So what are your thoughts about that, either one of you?

Speaker 9 (33:40):
You know, it's in terms of grass, you know, grass plays,
I think an important part. I live in downtown, which
is a concrete jungle, and just the other day I
was in Henderson and I walked by the courthouse and
I actually pulled my camera out and took a video
and sent it to some friends and.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Said, Wow, grass, real grass. I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
I think we give up a lot when we start
whether people can have grass or not. You know, I
don't want to get into you know, runoff and storm
drains and that sort of thing, but I like grass.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I like to see green.

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Speaker 5 (35:12):
We're here with Jeffrey Lesson, who is an aviator and
attorney and he ran for office eighty eleven last election cycle.
And then after the election, What happened to you?

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Where did you go?

Speaker 9 (35:26):
I took the trip of a lifetime. I went over
to Europe. It was a month, a little bit over
a month, and I got out a dodge and I
went to Europe and I ended up going to London, Paris, Amsterdam,
Berlin and Barcelona.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
And it was an eye opening thing, it really was.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
I talked to a lot of people, I went to
a lot of places. I watched the news, I listened
to the news that was going on. I was able
to read some of the papers. And what a great
perspective building trip it was.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
And so you said, it was a great tip. What
did you learn from my friend the Europeans.

Speaker 9 (36:03):
Well, the thing about the Europeans is that they've gone
through a transformation where they've really except for except for
for England and Great Britain, the Europeans have really lost
their national sense of identity. With the coming of the
European Union and with the governance all happening in one
European body, they have really lost their sense of individualistic

(36:26):
ideas for their particular countries and their particular histories. Like
for example, a lot of people don't realize this, but
a few years ago the German capital moved from Bond
to Berlin and they started using the Reich's Tog again.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
They started using that name again.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
And uh but but the Germans are very very shy
about their nationality. They they they are not proud to
be Germans.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's almost like there's no national.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
Pride, and it's it's it's very telling because Germany has
the largest economy in Europe and they have one of
the largest population groups in Europe, but without that sense
of pride because of what happened during World War Two
and also after that. I think it really affects the
policy in Europe and I think that we're missing out

(37:11):
because there are a lot of strong social conservatives all
across Europe that feel they don't have a voice because
their voice now goes into this European Union where everything's diluted,
everything's under the control of liberals. And they're also facing
a big crisis of open borders and rising crime all
around Europe.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
So what do they think about American.

Speaker 9 (37:32):
They actually love America. They actually they actually appreciate what's
going on in America. And some of the strongest people
that support America are from Poland and Eastern Europe, the
Eastern European Bloc. They understand the promise of America, they
understand the American dream, and they also understand what happens
when you open your border and you have people come
in and are refugees that don't produce, that don't want

(37:55):
to assimilate, that cause problems, that commit crimes.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
And you see that.

Speaker 9 (37:59):
A couple of years ago, when I was in Europe,
it felt safe, it didn't seem like a crime writ
in place. But now you cannot park your car in Berlin,
you'll get broken into because of the crime. It was
very telling, and I want to tell you something. This
is going to knock your socks off. There's actually a
television network in France that is modeled on Fox News,
and they're conservative and they support President Trump, they support America,

(38:22):
and that's a voice you see in France. That's a
voice of conservative thinking that's developing in that nation as
a backlash to this central European control.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Okay, so we have an email question I and this
is directed today elected officials that serve for decades seem
more interested in re election than passing good legislation. What
are your thoughts on term limits for congressmen and Senate tools. Yes,
and this is Linda from North Las Vegas.

Speaker 10 (38:52):
Hey, Hey, Linda, Hey doing, Hey, thanks for the question.
We absolutely need term limits. I think term limits so
get rid of a lot of the problem up there
in DCT. You won't get the nepotism, you won't get
these insider trading deals, you won't get the deep state.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Right.

Speaker 10 (39:06):
I think that that's probably the first avenue to get
rid of the deep state. So there is a you know,
there is an effort to have congressmen only do three
terms six years, and for senators only do two terms
or twelve years. So there's an effort to push for that.
The problem is is the deep state politicians that are
in there now, they kind of like the way it is,
so it's hard, you know, to get past that, right

(39:28):
because they like their little gravy train. So if you
get servants in there, you get people who just want
to serve, which is what they was intended by the
original founders is. You know, you get in there, you serve,
you get out, and you make good decisions and it's
not based on who your sponsor.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
Is, Jeffrey, do you have anything?

Speaker 9 (39:46):
And that's an issue not only in Congress, but it's
an issue in our County Commission, it's an issue in
our city Council. It's an issue in our state Assembly,
in our state Senate. We do have term limits in
our state offices. I think it works great. I don't
know that it's and it's short enough, you know, I
think I think I think it's too long. So I
think in a sense the term limits is a good idea.
It's never been tried in Congress, so they did pass

(40:09):
a bill a few years ago, but it got thrown out.
But I think it is something that we need to
look at. That's a constitutional amendment.

Speaker 10 (40:15):
Absolutely, But I think if we really want to get
rid of the deep state, because even President Trump he's trying,
but you know, the deep sud's pretty uh ingrained in there.
But if you do term limits of some sort, then
I think that'll get rid of a lot of that
deep state mentality.

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Speaker 5 (41:17):
Okay, So, Dave, do you have any final thoughts or
common Yeah, you know, I just.

Speaker 10 (41:22):
Want to follow up with what Jeff was talking about
on Europe, right, So you know, I grew up in Europe.
My dad was military and I was military brat, and
that was back in the days when each country had
their own currency and there was not a EU. And
then I went back as an adult and spent shoot
twelve years in Europe again in the military, and that's
when the EU happened. So they lost their sense of

(41:43):
national identity. And the EOS is a run by unelecteds,
so you know, the people don't have representation for the
for the organization that is making decisions for them financially.
So it's a big problem in Europe right now. I
hope they work it out, but I think that's why
they they like what is going on in the United States.
And if you look anywhere in the world, you know,

(42:04):
we have people trying to get here, you know, and
they're legally or illegally, and uh, you know those that
are doing it legally, that's great.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (42:13):
And they're coming from Europe as well, because we are
the greatest country in the world.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Okay, So I'd just like to thank our callers, Drew
Frank and the email from Linda, and I want to
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