February 22, 2025 • 34 mins
Host Dr. Teresa A. Smith, Dr. TAS welcomes Kerry-Ann Richie Wilkinson to discuss ministry, faith, resilience, and business.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am doctor Teresa Smith, doctor tars Welcome to this
edition of Talk with Tarz. Today's conversation is for you
if you've ever faced obstacles that made you question your purpose.
My Guess is a powerhouse in beauty, business.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And faith.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Carrie Anne Richie Wilkinson. From overcoming personal loss to building
an empire with the fab Institute of Beauty. She's proof
that resilience and faith can transform lives. Today she's sharing
her journey and the lesson she's learned along the way
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that Carrie Anne, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thank you, Thank you for having met doctor Teresa. It's
a pum pleasing pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Well, I am so glad that we are able to
have this time together now. Carrie An, your journey from
personal loss to purpose driven success is incredibly inspiring. How
how has your faith shake your vision for beauty and
entrepreneurship and what advice would you have for others who
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looking to merge their faith and their career.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's a modful but yes, first of all, I must
say I.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Was thinking today that how could people do life without God?
Because I have God and sometimes I find it difficult,
but I know I have to exercise patients as.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Just say, I'm a woman of faith. Now I'm a.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Christian for the last five years in ministry and property.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Is carry at church.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And I'm also have my master's in theology and I'm
not doing my doctorate in theology. I have a book
written called beautifulm Ashes that was from my first encounter
with God.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It tells you my encounter with God and oh I
wanted to change or not I wanted to change. Oh,
God changed me.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And then he gave me that inspiration to write the
book Beautiful Ashes, to actually share with other people helped
to open their eyes too.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And so.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mending messinge, i should say, and amalgamation of my beauty
business as the I have a salon and know becoming
a Christian and you know a lot of people are
not into makeup or they these pies and this dan
people who wear makeup that are Christian, and so it
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was quite difficult for me in the beginning. My thesis
was even on beauty in the church or beauty in ministry,
something of the source that I did my thesis in
and so I had to take a deep dive into
what you know, how it came about, and you know,
a lot of people say it was brought to us
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by the demonic angels, the fallen angels.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I forgot his that was doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But I think now that God doesn't really care much
about all we adorn ourselves as long as we don't
idolize it. And sometimes I still keep it mindest. So
that just changed me a little bit. In the beginning,
it was quite difficult because I'm a prophet. People will
judge you too. They judge me because I'm a makeup artist.
They judge me because I wear makeup and I relashous.
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I we call it hair, and so most of them
they're not really readily welcomed because of experts in the
faith faith space.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But no I have.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Now I am more into Christ, even more into Christ,
and I am staid fast in who I am. I
know who I am now, I know my identity, and
therefore I still keep it a little bit modest.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
But I'm not afraid to be who I am.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Not who I am as in the cardinal aspect of it,
but why am God called me to be?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There's still some challenges to overcome.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
In what people have to say about you, you know,
But in the same breath, it's your heart that really matters.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And clean hands and the pure heart they shall see God.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And that's my able to see Jesus while I'm here
helping people and being fishers of men.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Regardless of how you present yourself, your beauty always shines through.
And my belief is the beauty that we see is
not our dna. It's the beauty price that comes through us.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So again, like I said, I've seen you with the hair,
I've seen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You with no hair, but you yes, you're all died
for those that haven't seen a ball, and it's the
beauty is still there though, and there's a to your
faith walk with God that that beauty is coming through
regardless of the makeup and the out of garments.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And that's the way it should be for all.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Of us, yes, doctor Teresa. And that's why God really
is the heart. He said, rent their heart and not
your garments, because God is really about the heart.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Nothing else matters to Jesus.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Once you've given me your heart, and so it changes
you that way.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
He cleanses you and he purges you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But once you give God your heart and he knows
the intent of your heart, because that's the thing some
people can do so many things right, but I don't
idolize it, as you say, you've seen me bald headed,
you've seen me without makeup, because I'm not letting these
things prevent me from accomplishing my purpose.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And so I don't idolize it. Because you're strong.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I know who I am, especially in Christ, and I
think that's what matters first.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And so my.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Testimony is that I do what it's best for Christ
first and not me. And so that's where everything comes
in because once you understand the world will have you
thinking so many things. There's so many theology per theological perspective,
there's so many judgmental perspective, which is not even so
it's not biblical.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But once you find out, oh you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Are in Christ, doctor theresathing else.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Does nothing else matters? Nothing else? Yes, what gar.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Did you see in the industry that said they made
you say, okay, I need to create something better.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
When I went to be the school, of course I
was older, thirty four, it was always like bullying, you know,
a cattiness. I didn't like that, and I wasn't a
Christian then, so I might have been a little catchy byself.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Okay, but I've changed a lot. I've always been a
good person.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'm not like that, like that, but I've always been
attacked and bullied. I don't understand why. But younger kids,
you all the cliques and stuff like that. I'm never
a part of the clique. I'm always the one that
stands out or always by themselves or you know. And
so even in you this school, I want mind the
school now to be a little bit different in some
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of the things that we were taught. Even the person
women of color are taught differently too. And in beauty
school most times is the Caucasian ladies, or that's what's
taught more in most of the schools, and they're mostly
Caucasian owned and now developing my beauty cospitology courses. Their
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geared towards multifaceted people, not just black or white, but
emerge a merger of both of them. So when you leave,
people who leave my classes, they can do a Caucasian here,
they could do a white here.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's well the same, it's panic or black hair.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And so that's the aim of my school to make
it multipacted, not just like, oh, because I'm black, I
do have a white co teacher, and so they're able
the students isn't able to learn from both of us.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And I teach the extensions and the makeup.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And the just to give the serving with the passion
and the the core, and she teaches the cuts and
the color and the which is mostly you know, white
people does a lot of that. And so up to
work in us a long properly and give them real
ans on experience money making techniques, I call them too,
so that when they leave you this school, they're able
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to actually attract the clients that they want and the
person that have the money that can spend. You know,
because you go to school for quite some time to
learn your craft, you invest, not just doing it from
your home.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And therefore I want it to be profitable for you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
To So now let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Now you're very candid about how you got started, and
it's been a little slow start, but you haven't stopped.
What's one thing you knew before you launched your beauty
school that could have made but that could have made
the journey just a little easier.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Probably the thing is, doctor Terresa, I thought that we
got more help from the government's more health out from
the systems. So it's not that I didn't think. I
thought I would be far farther along. I know, because
like Workforce supposed to give like up to five thousand
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dollars per students, None of my students has gotten any
None of my students, even one supposed to go this week.
I'll call her to follow up here shortly. But the
people who have gone, and especially now in this political climate,
according to the Department of Education and stuff like that,
they're not releasing any money now.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And so I think that's what has been the progress
and delays.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Starting my school in October, because the students cannot enroll
in class and then apply for assistance. So what I
did was to wait so the students could apply and
get approved until afterwards.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
But no, they have waited. No, they apply, but there's
no money.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
They said, we have to wait until everything is figured
out with the government, and so I've wasted all that time.
So I think that's the thing where I initially thought
the students will be more able more activate assistance from
the governments, the Workforce West Virginia, the Department of Health,
Rehabilitation Services and all these and that, and all these
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are places that we have here that I am accredited for,
but they're not being able to get an assistance. They
say that they don't have any money, no, or the
money ran out. And even though I'm dealing with I'm
in the small business program that they're helping me with,
but they still give me any money until everything is
finalized with the government. And so I think that that's
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the real setback because of what's happening on the political arena.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Entrepreneurs, you know, we're so gung hope I'm going to
start my business.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think sometimes we are not realistic of work and
the time that we have to put into what we're
trying to create, and then the time between when we
put the work in and when we actually see the
outcomes that we're wanting. We're not realistic on what the
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timelines are as far as when you start something and
when you actually see the profit.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Has that been your your overall thoughts?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Awesome? The beauty school, yes, but with the with my salon.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
The moment I opened up, I had clients at the
door lined up outside, you know, so it's a different
avenue for me. I had people interviewing me, I had
the news coming by and I was never out of clients.
I was working until two in the morning until I
start to fiddle everything else. I was always book three
to four months ahead, sometimes five. I was making sometimes
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six thousand laws per week in my in my business
as a salon, right, And so no, it's a different avenue.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're no, we're not in education.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I need to realize not a lot of people
their money in education, especially in a vocational training. As such,
I'm also competing with all the schools that are already
taking FASPA financial aid, and I'm not able to take
financial aid until after two years, and that's even after
your application, and you have to once again go through
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an accreditation progress of being nationally recognized. And so those
are some of the setbacks that I have. But I
already know that's two years. I would be waiting at
least that time. What I did to anticipate is not
a lot of people signing up, because I've had a
waiting list and people come in, but no one has
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really signed up. And so that was one of the
problems that I had. Initially I thought everybody would be ready.
But I'm learning, You're correct, I'm learning. I'm in a
learning curve now and my expectations have changed and now,
but I'm still trying to match the market and meet
the market where I'm being proactive in going out to
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get students, going out to do my marketing. Once if
it gets warmer, I'll be going out there with my flyers,
my pamphlets and stuff like that. So, yes, I do
understand you, and it has really fumbled me, but I
underside the process and I'm just waiting on my big reward.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know, balancing faith, business and personal life isn't easy.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What daily tablet.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Or routines do you use to keep.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You grounded so that you can actually stay focused on
your mission?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yes, you are so correct when it comes to that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Sometimes it's not easy. But God is first in my life.
And once God is first, you know, family is God. Family,
then your personal life, not personal life. But yes, everything
else comes after that, and so I tend to keep
it that way no matter what. God comes first. So
there I took off my time thought of my few
dollars I made and my tithing. So I'm like, okay,
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this is a tiding because you asked me, what are
just some of the things that I do right now?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
My fasting and then that's sick. So I'm doing a fasting.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
For more spiritual growth and spiritual clarity and understanding.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I'm just fasting for guidance with my business. So I
do do that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And there are times, of course a minister at church,
but I read the Bible, not every day, but today
I did a few good chapters, so I kind of
make up for that.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And so also in Divination school.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I have to read a lot, so that keeps me
in it too, because you know what, but I try
to pray daily, even though I might not praying a
long prior.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
We're both prior. I ask God.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
God is always the center of my life, and I'm
I'm sorry if you I'm not sorry, but I'm saying
that I had an encounter with God.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So you also understand my excitement.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And my I view when it comes to Christ because
I've encountered God per sae, not literally but spiritually, and
that has changed my life completely not read. So when
it comes to things of the Lord, there's always going
to be opposition because the devil is trying to take
all of us out with him.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
He's tried to take us all to hell with him.
I am not going with him.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So I'm determined and said fast to really follow the
steps of God. But I think what keeps me? As
you ask, here's the only spirit. He walks with me daily.
He talks with me daily, and so I am guided.
My faith is guided by the older spirit, and I
know he's with me. And so even sometimes I'm not
praying and I'm not reading the Bible, it keeps nagging.
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It keeps telling me, not nagging.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You need to read.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You need to read it didn't read today. You need
to fast, it's been a long time. You need you
need to pray. You need to read a Bible, and
you know you need to do a sermon. You need
to shear.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Things and get more active because I was more fiery
for God.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I want to ask one other questions here I am
look looking back at your journey.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
If your younger self could see you now, don't you
think that now? Because you can have a journey. If
you're young.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I could see you now, now, what do you think
she'd be most proud.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Of She would be very proud of me, but she
would be like, girl, don't pay these people. Don't mind
because people will talk. But at sixteen, I don't remember
if I told you I wanted to commit suicide, right,
And so there are times I look back on my
life now I was like, thank God, I didn't kill myself,
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and it's funny. I went to church that night to
pay my last respects, to go kill myself, and there
was a spiritual intervention, hallelujah. And so that's why I
didn't end up killing myself that night. There was spiritual
intervention at church, a church that I was going. I
don't know what happened, and they started praying for me
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and everything.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Oh Glory, I'm feeling Jesus.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And so that self when you said that, that is
the stuff I want to look back, the carry that
I had to take care of my grandparents.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I had to take care of my grandfather.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I brought my grandparents, you know, suffering from abandonment, issue,
depression and all these things that I grew up really poor.
And then sometimes I could afford some things or do
to some of the things that I wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But it's all worth it, Hallelujah.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I know sometimes I would think about my grandparents and
think what would they say?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
And I wish they could see.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Me now, Oh Jesus, they could celebrate with me now,
you know, knowing that I've made it. To some people,
this is nothing, But to me, I've made it out
the trenches on my own, not with anybody, because I
don't have a strong family. I work my family, my mother,
my grandfather, and my grandparents they both died within nine
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months apart. And then I got shipped to the States
here now for school, which was good because I got
a scholarship, but I didn't have money to pay for
the rent, so I was kicked out plenty of times.
Back into school and beg money out, beg money. But buddy,
sometimes I end up people talking to men who don't
really have the best interest at heart, or you might
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not be treated properly, but you try to stick it
out because you know you need them at that time.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
But now I'm in a place Hallelujah, Oh Jesus, Glory
to God. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Now I'm in a place where doctor Teresa is not
even about my regular life. I'm just glad I got
saved before everything, because if I had died anytime, I
would have gone to Hell then. But now I'm in Jesus.
I'm walking with Jesus, and that's the thing. You could
take everything from me now and I can build it
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over again, but you cannot take away my salvation.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
And that's the one thing I'm most proud of because
if I do. I grew up in church, but if
I died, then I would have gone to help.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I wouldn't get to realize the sweet, sweet, sweet Jesus
that we talk about and how much He loves us.
And coming to an understanding of that makes you really
want God to be proud that you make you really
want to serve him the way you should. And I
know they're the carnal world and the things that happened
to you, but I think those are those things that
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they nevil throw at you, even from when you were young,
so you cannot walk into your purpose. And even when
you're deciding to walk in your purpose, it's it is
even more futile.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
But guess what. The race is not for the.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Swift, nor the back of all the strong, honey, what
is for those who endure? Okay, yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
They know crime a heart beat over he Yes, you
don't preach the sermon and I just.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I just let God use me.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I'm so glad you gave me that question.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Because you preach the sermon there.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
God is so good and.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Your life is a masterclass and thank resilience and purpose.
And I'm just so glad he let I pass cross
so that you can minister through this interview to whomever
it is that's gonna need to hear this message, because
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you brought it home with that. You brought it home
with that last response.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I saw your heart. I fell to your heart.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And the song that the Lord gave for you is
like a bridge over troubled waters. The Lord said, you
have laid on your life for so many people, not
really literally in your life like God did, but you
have given up so many things of yourself to help people.
And sometimes, oh hallelujah, sometimes these things are taken advantage of,
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and sometimes you feel so used and abused by people.
But the Lord says, Glorie, the Lord said he sees you.
He said, we've may endure for a night, doctor Theresa,
what God comes in the morning. I don't know what
you're going through, but the Lord showed me your heart,
and I just want to encourage you going because sometimes
us strong women, we are strong, of course, but there
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are times then we get sad and deflated and a
little the press because we're humans and sometimes the devil
are using these traumatic experience or using this experience just
to kick us off the path to detours, of the
path of righteousness of what God has in tore for us.
But I'm telling you today, doctor Theresa, that God said
you're is gonna repay you. Right, you have paid the penance,
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but is gonna repay you by everything that you have lost.
You're gonna recover you because there are people who have
treated you so poor.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Even when you have given up, you would have given
them the shirt off your back, the clothes off your back.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know who these people are, but they end
up stepping on you.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, not evil, I hear, like like dirty rat
like just like trash or something. They don't. Oh, they
treated you. I'm not just know in your adult life.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But overall in general, because you have such a kind
and giving heart. But the Lord says he sees your
heart and he has seen your opinion, has seen your suffering.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And he's gonna give you healing.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But the Lord say He's gonna reward you for everything
that you have gone through.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Amen, Amen, I received it, Carrie, because as soon as
you said, bridge Over Trouble War, Yes, that's a song
that I love.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And you don't know that. You see, you don't know it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But as soon as you said, I knew it was
God because he knows that's a song that I love.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, yes, message to me.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, oh my God, yes yeah. And then exactly what
you've done.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You've laid yourself down out so many types of people.
You used yourself as a bridge so they could get
over across the tumultous waters, and they end up never
forgot that you were laying there, Teresa. They just left
you out there to die. I mean, this is how
people are so ungrateful. But the Lord sees you, hallelujah,
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and he's gonna repay you. I know you didn't come
on here for this, but anyhow, the Lord wants me
to show up. That's how I'm gonna show up. I'm
gonna show up for you. I'm gonna show up for
the people, or however it is. Because that's a word
of encouragement to you.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So you can know that God sees you. God is watching.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's only the God in me that allows mean to
do the things that I do and be that bridge
even though you are, you're slapping me in my face
as I'm being the bridge.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So there are other people who need.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
To hear that. Like I said, but I thank you
for God for senting it to me because I needed
to hear it.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, sometimes it gets hard to do.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What you have to do and to smile and ignore
the fact that you know people are doing bad to you.
And sometimes I talk about that Bishop Noral Jones are sermon,
you know, and it's the old sermon God, probably about
fifteen years ago. And it'll be like your family tell
you the person no good, this person tell you, then
the person themselves.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Tell you they know good.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But you keep trying to do the right Thingith and
we as people of faith, and even if you don't
not a person of faith, you have to get to
a place where you protect yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, be estelfish guys.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
But you protect yourself so that you can still live
and do what you're.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Because if you keep being that bridge for everybody else
and being crapped on, eventually the bridge crumbles too.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Because we're in the flesh, so we yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Too, and we're carrying our own stuff. Then we're carrying
other people's stuff. Well, at some point my shoulders I
can't carry. But so many crosses at one time. Yeah,
And I will say I carry a whole lot of crosses,
and all those crosses, most of them are not mine, true,
but I carry a lot, a lot of crosses. So I'm,
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like I said, someone else needed this, and I'm just
so glad that he had you to do it publicly.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I'm glady had you to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Public because, like I said, not others will benefit from
what he shared through you to me, because I certainly
have benefited. Because sometimes I feel like I'm all alone,
but I know I'm not. I know I'm not that,
but we're human, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
And I'm gonna get say.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This because I love to talk about this. I'm always
talking about it offline with folks.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know. I love Jesus. When he's in the garden
of gasining me and.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
He said, the Father, if it be thy will that
the cup should pass over. Now, I always liked to
talk about it from this perspective. He is God who's
come down through all those generations as the son. He's
praying to himself, asking if it's thy will that the
cup should pass over?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But he knows the cup can't pass because he came.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Down through all those generations to save us, so he
knows he has to go to the cross.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
But the thing is he's in.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
The flesh, yes, And so when you're.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
In the flesh, he's feeling all this human emotion, all
the stuff that we feel. Yes, that makes us teeter sometimes,
But if we keep our mind on him and our
heart on him, then we know that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We can make it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
But to me, I look at that as a one
wonderful example of what it is to be human and
to have those contradictions, because we know that we know
that we know that he yes, but still you're not.
But we know if we go through the example of
God coming down as Christ going to the cross, we
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know he got up that third day morning, so we
know that we can get up.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Also, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We just have to remind our sin, and He's sending
that reminder in so.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Many different ways.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I'm telling you you were the reminder that I needed today.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yes, it's funny you said to get up, because that's
what the Lord was saying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Get up, keep.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Going, he going, I was, I was, I was talking
to someone. Sometimes I'm always talking to people and let
me see if I can pull it, Lord, help me
to pull it. You know, we talk about it's always
darkest before the dawn. But you know, we have to
remember there's a thing about time, time and destiny. The answer,
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whatever it is that we pray for.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is already done.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But we have to let time and destiny collide. Well,
you know, right now we in the darkness and remembering
in the morning it's gonna be all right, because you know,
it's the darkness before the dawn.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But we all we kind of in that darkness.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But the dawn is already here, meaning whatever it is
that we pray for, whatever is coming, it's right here.
So they're right here together. It's just a matter of
time and destiny.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
When they collide then with our naked.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Eye of God, because we know it with our heart.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
But we can't see it yet in the flesh.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And because we're in the flesh, we sometimes have to
have that flesh the thing that we can we try
to touch it because if we can't retry and touch it,
sometimes get the feeling like it ain't real. But it's
read it is so so real, and so I don't
know who needs that. I hope I said it right long,
But whoever needs it, I hope that that blesses you also,
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and carry in. You have been such a blessing for
us today. Think that actually I just thank God for you,
and I believe that at some point you're not gonna
be Caddy and you're gonna be said, and you call
me ten students, I'm gonna say ten students.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yes, Oh, I know. One day I'm gonna wake up
and the place is going to be that. I'm just
waiting on this.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So this is why I ask God to help me
to exercise faith and trust me is.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Making me exercise faith.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I'm like, because you know, as you said, it is
already there and it's just the time and the moment
to collide. And so I know, and I lived on
a bands on that fact that God is coming through
for me or it's already done. It's just that time
and we have to go through some of these moments,
you understand. So it's building me my character, and it's
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was showing me what's what really is there and how
I really need to change. And there's some systems that
I do need to change. So the Lord is really
using me. But sometimes, as they say, the flesh get
a little sided and depressed. But then I have to
get back come after dry my tears. I'm like, you know,
if it's your will Lord, that it will be done.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yes, and uh, Doc Jacqueline McDonald's said, it took me
a little a while, but I have to protect my heart.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
To protect your heart. And because if you don't protect it,
nobody else.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Will the Lord your heart because he knows the heart
of men are a wicked Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yes, and when something gets in your heart, you think
about the blood, the physical heart.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Now the blood spreads out throughout the.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Body, so they gets in your heart.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's in your whole body. And then for love and
protect our heart. Yes, because it's the it's our soul.
It's the essence of who we are. So well, Yes,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
And thank you carry in for joining me. You have
to come back another.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Time, yes, Yes, don't go. We'll pray real quick prior
if that's okay with you, yes, and if not, I
just don't say. Father God, I thank you for this
moment and thank you for this connection. But most of all, God,
I thank you for divine connection that's what we really need,
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the ones that you have orchestrated in our lives right
because it makes your life easier. I know sometimes we
might be twisted to and fro back and forth. But God,
once we're sented and you, once we stand on the
solid rock, we know that our life is for sure. God,
you already have the path of righteousness that we need
to take. You already know what the plans that you
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have for us. The plans were hope and for a future,
a right and so for God. For that, God, we
thank you and we're relying on you each day. Each
step we take their Father, God, it said, the steps
of a manner honored by you, and so that God
will give you everything. This evening we pray for those
that are on here, doctor Jacqualine, the other two persons
that we're on here.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
God, I thank you for.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Them just tuning in and that it could actually help
to refresh their souls.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
We thank you for our hosts is the most stess.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We thank you for doctor Thereesa and what she has
going on their Father.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
God or interviews. And though it might not be popular right, no,
she too is in the waiting season.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Because the wait will be over soon hallelujah, and the
herbits will be ready to be reaped.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
We wanted to have enough hands for this, Dear Father God.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
So that's God. I thank you God. Thank you for
orchestrating your life.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
God. Thank you for helping us on this pot that
we're taking. Their Father God.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And we just thank you for providing for us, for
us that we're even here today, which.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Bred in our bodies and with all functions, Their Father God.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
There might be some ills, aches and pain here and there,
but some people have dead and gone and we're still here.
Not to rejoice or anything, their Father God, but it
gives us one more chance for repentance, hallelujah, one more
day to spend with you their Father God. But Father God,
but most and important, we thank you for being. Oh
you are as king of kings and Lord of Lord.
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Oh you are as the healer and the provider. Oh
you are as as I am. That I am the comfort,
our friend when we need a friend or father to
the fatherless and the mother to the motherless. Their Father God,
and you shove up for us even when we cannot
show up for ourselves, and we don't shove up for you.
And so God, we thank you for being so compassionate
to us their father God. We thank you for dying
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on the cross. We thank you for rising up on
the third day and we have come condebt and help
us to receive the gift of salvation.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And we thank you for everything that you have done
in this life, in our lives, not just mine, in
Jesus' name, we pray amen and amen, yes, yes, yes,
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for that prayer.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Uh Carrie, and and thank you. Jacan said she's received,
and then Jesus black Man said, what is popular?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't know. I don't I don't know what you're
asking in, Jesus black Man. So, but.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Everybody, I want to thank you so much for being
with us. I want to you carry in for letting
God usual and to my audience, thank you again for
joining us. And until next time. Remember and this is
my sign off, doctor Jacqueline. Before you go trying kind
to take care of someone else, make sure you take
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care of yourself first.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
By now, yes, all right, bye, good bye,
I am doctor Teresa Smith, doctor tars Welcome to this
edition of Talk with Tarz. Today's conversation is for you
if you've ever faced obstacles that made you question your purpose.
My Guess is a powerhouse in beauty, business.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And faith.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Carrie Anne Richie Wilkinson. From overcoming personal loss to building
an empire with the fab Institute of Beauty. She's proof
that resilience and faith can transform lives. Today she's sharing
her journey and the lesson she's learned along the way
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that Carrie Anne, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thank you, Thank you for having met doctor Teresa. It's
a pum pleasing pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Well, I am so glad that we are able to
have this time together now. Carrie An, your journey from
personal loss to purpose driven success is incredibly inspiring. How
how has your faith shake your vision for beauty and
entrepreneurship and what advice would you have for others who
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looking to merge their faith and their career.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's a modful but yes, first of all, I must
say I.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Was thinking today that how could people do life without God?
Because I have God and sometimes I find it difficult,
but I know I have to exercise patients as.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Just say, I'm a woman of faith. Now I'm a.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Christian for the last five years in ministry and property.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Is carry at church.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And I'm also have my master's in theology and I'm
not doing my doctorate in theology. I have a book
written called beautifulm Ashes that was from my first encounter
with God.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It tells you my encounter with God and oh I
wanted to change or not I wanted to change. Oh,
God changed me.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And then he gave me that inspiration to write the
book Beautiful Ashes, to actually share with other people helped
to open their eyes too.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And so.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mending messinge, i should say, and amalgamation of my beauty
business as the I have a salon and know becoming
a Christian and you know a lot of people are
not into makeup or they these pies and this dan
people who wear makeup that are Christian, and so it
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was quite difficult for me in the beginning. My thesis
was even on beauty in the church or beauty in ministry,
something of the source that I did my thesis in
and so I had to take a deep dive into
what you know, how it came about, and you know,
a lot of people say it was brought to us
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by the demonic angels, the fallen angels.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I forgot his that was doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But I think now that God doesn't really care much
about all we adorn ourselves as long as we don't
idolize it. And sometimes I still keep it mindest. So
that just changed me a little bit. In the beginning,
it was quite difficult because I'm a prophet. People will
judge you too. They judge me because I'm a makeup artist.
They judge me because I wear makeup and I relashous.
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I we call it hair, and so most of them
they're not really readily welcomed because of experts in the
faith faith space.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But no I have.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Now I am more into Christ, even more into Christ,
and I am staid fast in who I am. I
know who I am now, I know my identity, and
therefore I still keep it a little bit modest.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
But I'm not afraid to be who I am.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Not who I am as in the cardinal aspect of it,
but why am God called me to be?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There's still some challenges to overcome.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
In what people have to say about you, you know,
But in the same breath, it's your heart that really matters.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And clean hands and the pure heart they shall see God.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And that's my able to see Jesus while I'm here
helping people and being fishers of men.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Regardless of how you present yourself, your beauty always shines through.
And my belief is the beauty that we see is
not our dna. It's the beauty price that comes through us.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So again, like I said, I've seen you with the hair,
I've seen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You with no hair, but you yes, you're all died
for those that haven't seen a ball, and it's the
beauty is still there though, and there's a to your
faith walk with God that that beauty is coming through
regardless of the makeup and the out of garments.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And that's the way it should be for all.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Of us, yes, doctor Teresa. And that's why God really
is the heart. He said, rent their heart and not
your garments, because God is really about the heart.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Nothing else matters to Jesus.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Once you've given me your heart, and so it changes
you that way.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
He cleanses you and he purges you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But once you give God your heart and he knows
the intent of your heart, because that's the thing some
people can do so many things right, but I don't
idolize it, as you say, you've seen me bald headed,
you've seen me without makeup, because I'm not letting these
things prevent me from accomplishing my purpose.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And so I don't idolize it. Because you're strong.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I know who I am, especially in Christ, and I
think that's what matters first.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And so my.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Testimony is that I do what it's best for Christ
first and not me. And so that's where everything comes
in because once you understand the world will have you
thinking so many things. There's so many theology per theological perspective,
there's so many judgmental perspective, which is not even so
it's not biblical.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But once you find out, oh you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Are in Christ, doctor theresathing else.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Does nothing else matters? Nothing else? Yes, what gar.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Did you see in the industry that said they made
you say, okay, I need to create something better.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
When I went to be the school, of course I
was older, thirty four, it was always like bullying, you know,
a cattiness. I didn't like that, and I wasn't a
Christian then, so I might have been a little catchy byself.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Okay, but I've changed a lot. I've always been a
good person.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'm not like that, like that, but I've always been
attacked and bullied. I don't understand why. But younger kids,
you all the cliques and stuff like that. I'm never
a part of the clique. I'm always the one that
stands out or always by themselves or you know. And
so even in you this school, I want mind the
school now to be a little bit different in some
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of the things that we were taught. Even the person
women of color are taught differently too. And in beauty
school most times is the Caucasian ladies, or that's what's
taught more in most of the schools, and they're mostly
Caucasian owned and now developing my beauty cospitology courses. Their
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geared towards multifaceted people, not just black or white, but
emerge a merger of both of them. So when you leave,
people who leave my classes, they can do a Caucasian here,
they could do a white here.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's well the same, it's panic or black hair.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And so that's the aim of my school to make
it multipacted, not just like, oh, because I'm black, I
do have a white co teacher, and so they're able
the students isn't able to learn from both of us.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And I teach the extensions and the makeup.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And the just to give the serving with the passion
and the the core, and she teaches the cuts and
the color and the which is mostly you know, white
people does a lot of that. And so up to
work in us a long properly and give them real
ans on experience money making techniques, I call them too,
so that when they leave you this school, they're able
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to actually attract the clients that they want and the
person that have the money that can spend. You know,
because you go to school for quite some time to
learn your craft, you invest, not just doing it from
your home.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And therefore I want it to be profitable for you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
To So now let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Now you're very candid about how you got started, and
it's been a little slow start, but you haven't stopped.
What's one thing you knew before you launched your beauty
school that could have made but that could have made
the journey just a little easier.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Probably the thing is, doctor Terresa, I thought that we
got more help from the government's more health out from
the systems. So it's not that I didn't think. I
thought I would be far farther along. I know, because
like Workforce supposed to give like up to five thousand
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dollars per students, None of my students has gotten any
None of my students, even one supposed to go this week.
I'll call her to follow up here shortly. But the
people who have gone, and especially now in this political climate,
according to the Department of Education and stuff like that,
they're not releasing any money now.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And so I think that's what has been the progress
and delays.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Starting my school in October, because the students cannot enroll
in class and then apply for assistance. So what I
did was to wait so the students could apply and
get approved until afterwards.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
But no, they have waited. No, they apply, but there's
no money.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
They said, we have to wait until everything is figured
out with the government, and so I've wasted all that time.
So I think that's the thing where I initially thought
the students will be more able more activate assistance from
the governments, the Workforce West Virginia, the Department of Health,
Rehabilitation Services and all these and that, and all these
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are places that we have here that I am accredited for,
but they're not being able to get an assistance. They
say that they don't have any money, no, or the
money ran out. And even though I'm dealing with I'm
in the small business program that they're helping me with,
but they still give me any money until everything is
finalized with the government. And so I think that that's
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the real setback because of what's happening on the political arena.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Entrepreneurs, you know, we're so gung hope I'm going to
start my business.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think sometimes we are not realistic of work and
the time that we have to put into what we're
trying to create, and then the time between when we
put the work in and when we actually see the
outcomes that we're wanting. We're not realistic on what the
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timelines are as far as when you start something and
when you actually see the profit.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Has that been your your overall thoughts?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Awesome? The beauty school, yes, but with the with my salon.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
The moment I opened up, I had clients at the
door lined up outside, you know, so it's a different
avenue for me. I had people interviewing me, I had
the news coming by and I was never out of clients.
I was working until two in the morning until I
start to fiddle everything else. I was always book three
to four months ahead, sometimes five. I was making sometimes
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six thousand laws per week in my in my business
as a salon, right, And so no, it's a different avenue.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're no, we're not in education.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I need to realize not a lot of people
their money in education, especially in a vocational training. As such,
I'm also competing with all the schools that are already
taking FASPA financial aid, and I'm not able to take
financial aid until after two years, and that's even after
your application, and you have to once again go through
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an accreditation progress of being nationally recognized. And so those
are some of the setbacks that I have. But I
already know that's two years. I would be waiting at
least that time. What I did to anticipate is not
a lot of people signing up, because I've had a
waiting list and people come in, but no one has
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really signed up. And so that was one of the
problems that I had. Initially I thought everybody would be ready.
But I'm learning, You're correct, I'm learning. I'm in a
learning curve now and my expectations have changed and now,
but I'm still trying to match the market and meet
the market where I'm being proactive in going out to
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get students, going out to do my marketing. Once if
it gets warmer, I'll be going out there with my flyers,
my pamphlets and stuff like that. So, yes, I do
understand you, and it has really fumbled me, but I
underside the process and I'm just waiting on my big reward.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know, balancing faith, business and personal life isn't easy.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What daily tablet.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Or routines do you use to keep.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You grounded so that you can actually stay focused on
your mission?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yes, you are so correct when it comes to that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Sometimes it's not easy. But God is first in my life.
And once God is first, you know, family is God. Family,
then your personal life, not personal life. But yes, everything
else comes after that, and so I tend to keep
it that way no matter what. God comes first. So
there I took off my time thought of my few
dollars I made and my tithing. So I'm like, okay,
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this is a tiding because you asked me, what are
just some of the things that I do right now?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
My fasting and then that's sick. So I'm doing a fasting.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
For more spiritual growth and spiritual clarity and understanding.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I'm just fasting for guidance with my business. So I
do do that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And there are times, of course a minister at church,
but I read the Bible, not every day, but today
I did a few good chapters, so I kind of
make up for that.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And so also in Divination school.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I have to read a lot, so that keeps me
in it too, because you know what, but I try
to pray daily, even though I might not praying a
long prior.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
We're both prior. I ask God.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
God is always the center of my life, and I'm
I'm sorry if you I'm not sorry, but I'm saying
that I had an encounter with God.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So you also understand my excitement.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And my I view when it comes to Christ because
I've encountered God per sae, not literally but spiritually, and
that has changed my life completely not read. So when
it comes to things of the Lord, there's always going
to be opposition because the devil is trying to take
all of us out with him.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
He's tried to take us all to hell with him.
I am not going with him.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So I'm determined and said fast to really follow the
steps of God. But I think what keeps me? As
you ask, here's the only spirit. He walks with me daily.
He talks with me daily, and so I am guided.
My faith is guided by the older spirit, and I
know he's with me. And so even sometimes I'm not
praying and I'm not reading the Bible, it keeps nagging.
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It keeps telling me, not nagging.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You need to read.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You need to read it didn't read today. You need
to fast, it's been a long time. You need you
need to pray. You need to read a Bible, and
you know you need to do a sermon. You need
to shear.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Things and get more active because I was more fiery
for God.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I want to ask one other questions here I am
look looking back at your journey.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
If your younger self could see you now, don't you
think that now? Because you can have a journey. If
you're young.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I could see you now, now, what do you think
she'd be most proud.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Of She would be very proud of me, but she
would be like, girl, don't pay these people. Don't mind
because people will talk. But at sixteen, I don't remember
if I told you I wanted to commit suicide, right,
And so there are times I look back on my
life now I was like, thank God, I didn't kill myself,
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and it's funny. I went to church that night to
pay my last respects, to go kill myself, and there
was a spiritual intervention, hallelujah. And so that's why I
didn't end up killing myself that night. There was spiritual
intervention at church, a church that I was going. I
don't know what happened, and they started praying for me
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and everything.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Oh Glory, I'm feeling Jesus.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And so that self when you said that, that is
the stuff I want to look back, the carry that
I had to take care of my grandparents.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I had to take care of my grandfather.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I brought my grandparents, you know, suffering from abandonment, issue,
depression and all these things that I grew up really poor.
And then sometimes I could afford some things or do
to some of the things that I wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But it's all worth it, Hallelujah.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I know sometimes I would think about my grandparents and
think what would they say?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
And I wish they could see.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Me now, Oh Jesus, they could celebrate with me now,
you know, knowing that I've made it. To some people,
this is nothing, But to me, I've made it out
the trenches on my own, not with anybody, because I
don't have a strong family. I work my family, my mother,
my grandfather, and my grandparents they both died within nine
(18:06):
months apart. And then I got shipped to the States
here now for school, which was good because I got
a scholarship, but I didn't have money to pay for
the rent, so I was kicked out plenty of times.
Back into school and beg money out, beg money. But buddy,
sometimes I end up people talking to men who don't
really have the best interest at heart, or you might
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not be treated properly, but you try to stick it
out because you know you need them at that time.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
But now I'm in a place Hallelujah, Oh Jesus, Glory
to God. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Now I'm in a place where doctor Teresa is not
even about my regular life. I'm just glad I got
saved before everything, because if I had died anytime, I
would have gone to Hell then. But now I'm in Jesus.
I'm walking with Jesus, and that's the thing. You could
take everything from me now and I can build it
(19:00):
over again, but you cannot take away my salvation.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
And that's the one thing I'm most proud of because
if I do. I grew up in church, but if
I died, then I would have gone to help.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I wouldn't get to realize the sweet, sweet, sweet Jesus
that we talk about and how much He loves us.
And coming to an understanding of that makes you really
want God to be proud that you make you really
want to serve him the way you should. And I
know they're the carnal world and the things that happened
to you, but I think those are those things that
(19:30):
they nevil throw at you, even from when you were young,
so you cannot walk into your purpose. And even when
you're deciding to walk in your purpose, it's it is
even more futile.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
But guess what. The race is not for the.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Swift, nor the back of all the strong, honey, what
is for those who endure? Okay, yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
They know crime a heart beat over he Yes, you
don't preach the sermon and I just.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I just let God use me.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I'm so glad you gave me that question.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Because you preach the sermon there.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
God is so good and.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Your life is a masterclass and thank resilience and purpose.
And I'm just so glad he let I pass cross
so that you can minister through this interview to whomever
it is that's gonna need to hear this message, because
(20:38):
you brought it home with that. You brought it home
with that last response.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I saw your heart. I fell to your heart.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And the song that the Lord gave for you is
like a bridge over troubled waters. The Lord said, you
have laid on your life for so many people, not
really literally in your life like God did, but you
have given up so many things of yourself to help people.
And sometimes, oh hallelujah, sometimes these things are taken advantage of,
(21:07):
and sometimes you feel so used and abused by people.
But the Lord says, Glorie, the Lord said he sees you.
He said, we've may endure for a night, doctor Theresa,
what God comes in the morning. I don't know what
you're going through, but the Lord showed me your heart,
and I just want to encourage you going because sometimes
us strong women, we are strong, of course, but there
(21:29):
are times then we get sad and deflated and a
little the press because we're humans and sometimes the devil
are using these traumatic experience or using this experience just
to kick us off the path to detours, of the
path of righteousness of what God has in tore for us.
But I'm telling you today, doctor Theresa, that God said
you're is gonna repay you. Right, you have paid the penance,
(21:53):
but is gonna repay you by everything that you have lost.
You're gonna recover you because there are people who have
treated you so poor.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Even when you have given up, you would have given
them the shirt off your back, the clothes off your back.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know who these people are, but they end
up stepping on you.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, not evil, I hear, like like dirty rat
like just like trash or something. They don't. Oh, they
treated you. I'm not just know in your adult life.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But overall in general, because you have such a kind
and giving heart. But the Lord says he sees your
heart and he has seen your opinion, has seen your suffering.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And he's gonna give you healing.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But the Lord say He's gonna reward you for everything
that you have gone through.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Amen, Amen, I received it, Carrie, because as soon as
you said, bridge Over Trouble War, Yes, that's a song
that I love.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And you don't know that. You see, you don't know it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But as soon as you said, I knew it was
God because he knows that's a song that I love.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, yes, message to me.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, oh my God, yes yeah. And then exactly what
you've done.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You've laid yourself down out so many types of people.
You used yourself as a bridge so they could get
over across the tumultous waters, and they end up never
forgot that you were laying there, Teresa. They just left
you out there to die. I mean, this is how
people are so ungrateful. But the Lord sees you, hallelujah,
(23:38):
and he's gonna repay you. I know you didn't come
on here for this, but anyhow, the Lord wants me
to show up. That's how I'm gonna show up. I'm
gonna show up for you. I'm gonna show up for
the people, or however it is. Because that's a word
of encouragement to you.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So you can know that God sees you. God is watching.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's only the God in me that allows mean to
do the things that I do and be that bridge
even though you are, you're slapping me in my face
as I'm being the bridge.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So there are other people who need.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
To hear that. Like I said, but I thank you
for God for senting it to me because I needed
to hear it.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, sometimes it gets hard to do.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What you have to do and to smile and ignore
the fact that you know people are doing bad to you.
And sometimes I talk about that Bishop Noral Jones are sermon,
you know, and it's the old sermon God, probably about
fifteen years ago. And it'll be like your family tell
you the person no good, this person tell you, then
the person themselves.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Tell you they know good.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But you keep trying to do the right Thingith and
we as people of faith, and even if you don't
not a person of faith, you have to get to
a place where you protect yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, be estelfish guys.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
But you protect yourself so that you can still live
and do what you're.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Because if you keep being that bridge for everybody else
and being crapped on, eventually the bridge crumbles too.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Because we're in the flesh, so we yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Too, and we're carrying our own stuff. Then we're carrying
other people's stuff. Well, at some point my shoulders I
can't carry. But so many crosses at one time. Yeah,
And I will say I carry a whole lot of crosses,
and all those crosses, most of them are not mine, true,
but I carry a lot, a lot of crosses. So I'm,
(25:34):
like I said, someone else needed this, and I'm just
so glad that he had you to do it publicly.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I'm glady had you to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Public because, like I said, not others will benefit from
what he shared through you to me, because I certainly
have benefited. Because sometimes I feel like I'm all alone,
but I know I'm not. I know I'm not that,
but we're human, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
And I'm gonna get say.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This because I love to talk about this. I'm always
talking about it offline with folks.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know. I love Jesus. When he's in the garden
of gasining me and.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
He said, the Father, if it be thy will that
the cup should pass over. Now, I always liked to
talk about it from this perspective. He is God who's
come down through all those generations as the son. He's
praying to himself, asking if it's thy will that the
cup should pass over?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But he knows the cup can't pass because he came.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Down through all those generations to save us, so he
knows he has to go to the cross.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
But the thing is he's in.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
The flesh, yes, And so when you're.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
In the flesh, he's feeling all this human emotion, all
the stuff that we feel. Yes, that makes us teeter sometimes,
But if we keep our mind on him and our
heart on him, then we know that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We can make it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
But to me, I look at that as a one
wonderful example of what it is to be human and
to have those contradictions, because we know that we know
that we know that he yes, but still you're not.
But we know if we go through the example of
God coming down as Christ going to the cross, we
(27:18):
know he got up that third day morning, so we
know that we can get up.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Also, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We just have to remind our sin, and He's sending
that reminder in so.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Many different ways.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I'm telling you you were the reminder that I needed today.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yes, it's funny you said to get up, because that's
what the Lord was saying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Get up, keep.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Going, he going, I was, I was, I was talking
to someone. Sometimes I'm always talking to people and let
me see if I can pull it, Lord, help me
to pull it. You know, we talk about it's always
darkest before the dawn. But you know, we have to
remember there's a thing about time, time and destiny. The answer,
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whatever it is that we pray for.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is already done.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But we have to let time and destiny collide. Well,
you know, right now we in the darkness and remembering
in the morning it's gonna be all right, because you know,
it's the darkness before the dawn.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But we all we kind of in that darkness.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But the dawn is already here, meaning whatever it is
that we pray for, whatever is coming, it's right here.
So they're right here together. It's just a matter of
time and destiny.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
When they collide then with our naked.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Eye of God, because we know it with our heart.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
But we can't see it yet in the flesh.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And because we're in the flesh, we sometimes have to
have that flesh the thing that we can we try
to touch it because if we can't retry and touch it,
sometimes get the feeling like it ain't real. But it's
read it is so so real, and so I don't
know who needs that. I hope I said it right long,
But whoever needs it, I hope that that blesses you also,
(29:10):
and carry in. You have been such a blessing for
us today. Think that actually I just thank God for you,
and I believe that at some point you're not gonna
be Caddy and you're gonna be said, and you call
me ten students, I'm gonna say ten students.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yes, Oh, I know. One day I'm gonna wake up
and the place is going to be that. I'm just
waiting on this.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So this is why I ask God to help me
to exercise faith and trust me is.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Making me exercise faith.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I'm like, because you know, as you said, it is
already there and it's just the time and the moment
to collide. And so I know, and I lived on
a bands on that fact that God is coming through
for me or it's already done. It's just that time
and we have to go through some of these moments,
you understand. So it's building me my character, and it's
(30:02):
was showing me what's what really is there and how
I really need to change. And there's some systems that
I do need to change. So the Lord is really
using me. But sometimes, as they say, the flesh get
a little sided and depressed. But then I have to
get back come after dry my tears. I'm like, you know,
if it's your will Lord, that it will be done.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yes, and uh, Doc Jacqueline McDonald's said, it took me
a little a while, but I have to protect my heart.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
To protect your heart. And because if you don't protect it,
nobody else.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Will the Lord your heart because he knows the heart
of men are a wicked Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yes, and when something gets in your heart, you think
about the blood, the physical heart.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Now the blood spreads out throughout the.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Body, so they gets in your heart.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's in your whole body. And then for love and
protect our heart. Yes, because it's the it's our soul.
It's the essence of who we are. So well, Yes,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
And thank you carry in for joining me. You have
to come back another.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Time, yes, Yes, don't go. We'll pray real quick prior
if that's okay with you, yes, and if not, I
just don't say. Father God, I thank you for this
moment and thank you for this connection. But most of all, God,
I thank you for divine connection that's what we really need,
(31:36):
the ones that you have orchestrated in our lives right
because it makes your life easier. I know sometimes we
might be twisted to and fro back and forth. But God,
once we're sented and you, once we stand on the
solid rock, we know that our life is for sure. God,
you already have the path of righteousness that we need
to take. You already know what the plans that you
(31:57):
have for us. The plans were hope and for a future,
a right and so for God. For that, God, we
thank you and we're relying on you each day. Each
step we take their Father, God, it said, the steps
of a manner honored by you, and so that God
will give you everything. This evening we pray for those
that are on here, doctor Jacqualine, the other two persons
that we're on here.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
God, I thank you for.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Them just tuning in and that it could actually help
to refresh their souls.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
We thank you for our hosts is the most stess.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We thank you for doctor Thereesa and what she has
going on their Father.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
God or interviews. And though it might not be popular right, no,
she too is in the waiting season.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Because the wait will be over soon hallelujah, and the
herbits will be ready to be reaped.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
We wanted to have enough hands for this, Dear Father God.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
So that's God. I thank you God. Thank you for
orchestrating your life.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
God. Thank you for helping us on this pot that
we're taking. Their Father God.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And we just thank you for providing for us, for
us that we're even here today, which.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Bred in our bodies and with all functions, Their Father God.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
There might be some ills, aches and pain here and there,
but some people have dead and gone and we're still here.
Not to rejoice or anything, their Father God, but it
gives us one more chance for repentance, hallelujah, one more
day to spend with you their Father God. But Father God,
but most and important, we thank you for being. Oh
you are as king of kings and Lord of Lord.
(33:22):
Oh you are as the healer and the provider. Oh
you are as as I am. That I am the comfort,
our friend when we need a friend or father to
the fatherless and the mother to the motherless. Their Father God,
and you shove up for us even when we cannot
show up for ourselves, and we don't shove up for you.
And so God, we thank you for being so compassionate
to us their father God. We thank you for dying
(33:43):
on the cross. We thank you for rising up on
the third day and we have come condebt and help
us to receive the gift of salvation.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And we thank you for everything that you have done
in this life, in our lives, not just mine, in
Jesus' name, we pray amen and amen, yes, yes, yes,
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for that prayer.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Uh Carrie, and and thank you. Jacan said she's received,
and then Jesus black Man said, what is popular?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't know. I don't I don't know what you're
asking in, Jesus black Man. So, but.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Everybody, I want to thank you so much for being
with us. I want to you carry in for letting
God usual and to my audience, thank you again for
joining us. And until next time. Remember and this is
my sign off, doctor Jacqueline. Before you go trying kind
to take care of someone else, make sure you take
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care of yourself first.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
By now, yes, all right, bye, good bye,
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