April 3, 2025 • 33 mins
Host Dr. Teresa A. Smith, Dr. TAS welcomes author and pastor Herb Wallace to discuss faith, purpose, and success.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Talk with Tars. I'm doctor Teresa Smith,
doctor tars.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Today I am joined by Pastor Herb Wallace. He's a husband,
he's a father, he's an Army.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Veteran and an author who has He was here to
share powerful insights on faith, purpose and chasing your dreams.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Her welcome to the Talk with Tars.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hey, doctor Toars, thank you for having me. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you so so much.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, Pastor, you your work, whether as a pastor
as an author, is rooted in faith. How did you
discover your why and how has it sort of fueled
your journey?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh? Great question.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Let me let me let me say this. First, I
got to say hello to my Queen Priscilla Anne Wallace.
Thank you for being here to helping me. Thank you
for my Princess Sheila, my other children, the Amaya, Marquis Shaki.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just want to get him a shout out. How did
I discover my wife? Man? That's a that's a good story.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I was in your second Germany in the station
in the Army, and I kept walking around asking people
what's the purpose of life? While are we here? Why
do we get up every morning? Go to work and
for me at that time, get off, go get drunk,
go home, get back into bed, get up, and start
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the same cycle all over again.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
What's the purpose of life? What? What?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What is the man? I was aggravating people walking on,
asking what's what's the man? What am I supposed to
be doing as a man?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What is all this about? And while I was there.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
There was this this gentleman. He asked me this question.
He said, have you come to a point in your
life where if you were.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
To die to day you would go to heaven? I
had no answer to it.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Now, mind you, this guy's about six foot three, two
twenty five. All children were mostly we in this little
small Volkswagen bug.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
At that time.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I was probably one hundred and fifty five pounds soaking
with so the question was somewhat intimidating to me.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He asked me that question. I didn't have an answer. Well,
let it on.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
He invited me to a revival and there's this minister
from the States who came over.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He's preaching and.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm standing there and I'm not a crier, but on
that night, tears just kept flowing down my eyes, flowing
down my face. I'm just crying like a big old baby.
That led me to Christ on that night, and that's
when my wife started becoming more apparent to who I
am and what I'm supposed to be doing. That was
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the beginning of my journey to understand it why I
have been created, what's special unique about me? My training
to understand who God is and that there was a
creator in this world whore me and not only created
me he but he saved me for a specific purpose.
So yeah, that's that's that's the start of my journey.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, now are You've given us the backstory and how
you discovered your wife, So now how does that keep
propelling you today now that you've gotten that because you
didn't you had an idea then, But how did that
idea of that connection to God and becoming safe?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
How did that continue to fuel your journey?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Because I learned that God is my creator and if
he created me, he must have a specific reason why
he created me. So then as I developed a relationship
with him, I started more understanding of who I was
and what I was created for. And then I began
to start talking about God created me for a specific
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purpose to empower his people to be all that the
Lord has created them to be. Now, as I get
up in the morning, that's my focus. How can I
empower somebody else? How can I encourage somebody else? What
can I do today to point somebody else.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
To the Creator?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What can I do this today to show somebody else
how to have a relationship with him? That's that's my purpose.
That's why I'm here now. It doesn't matter what else
I go through. They can throw me a bunch of
different curve balls. I've had all kinds of ups and downs,
just like everybody else in life.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But what I've learned, and.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
What we talk about in the book as well, if
you go through some stuff, if you know your why
and you know who He is and the one who
created you for a specific purpose, you can deal with it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, think about the disciples. Think about him.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
They they were distraught. I mean, Jesus had been with
them three three and a half years, showed them everything,
walk with them, taught them, encourage them.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Then all of a sudden they see him hanging from
a cross.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
They are disturbed, distraught, they flee, they get.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Up out of there.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They don't know what to do. But then when you
turn to the Book of acts. These same disciples are
giving their life to proclaim the good news of Jesus
to Christ.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Why they discovered their.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Why, they discovered that they were the vest sos that
God was going to utilize to share the gospel with
the entire world. Now that didn't matter what happened to them.
They understood who they were and who they served. And
I think that as we as people understanding who we
are in Christ Jesus and who we serve, we can
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deal with anything that comes our way in life.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Absolutely absolutely earth. For those who are struggling to identify
their why are their true purpose? What steps would you
reckon me and they take to put them on the
path to understanding what it is?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
First, I would just say I will start off with prayer,
because God is the creator and he created you for
a specific purpose. To start by asking someone who created you?
Why did you create me? And for what reason? What
is it that you want me to do in this world?
And then, like and the Stanley teaches, I would encourage
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you to get busy doing something. What encourages you. I
like to ask people this question. If money was not
a problem, and you can do anything in the world
that you wanted to do, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And somewhere within that it's most likely your why.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's most likely to be that you want to do,
whether that be something with your hands, something with your mind,
whether that be mechanics, whether that be something in the arts,
whatever it is. If money was not an issue and
you could do anything in the world that you wanted
to do, that's where your wife is, that's where your purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Is, and then get busy doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Sometimes we look at it from a grand standpoint that
I have to be a best selling author in order
to be a real offer. No, just get started writing something.
Now you begin to write something, you begin to evolve
and you figure out things as you go.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The why is not for us, is how I've been taught.
It's for other people.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And you basically said the same thing, because you said,
you know, we start with prayer, asking God, who created us,
what is what is it that he wants for us?
What is it that he wants you to do? What's
our reason for being here?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Then you talked about.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then you know, if money was you asked Boks a question,
if money was not an issue, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And then it's like like in that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You will see because I certainly see it because I've
always done it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know, and I do it and I'm doing it now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What is it that I do that I've always done
that I love to do and if money was no issue,
I would still do it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And for me, it's.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Encouraging other people and sharing those people who may have
overcome something, sharing their stories, their messages, their business, whatever
you want to call it, because I've always encouraged individuals.
I've always heard people's stories since I was in middle
school and people would come and tell me the most
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private things. My peers as well as older people. Just
just you go in the grocery store and people just
tell me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The most stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And it's always been like that, so I know that
that's my that's my why, you know. And as you said,
whatever it is, get about doing it because the more
you do it, the more downloads what you're really supposed
to do. Because even when I just said that's huge,
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you'll get me niched down to where I'm really supposed
to be. And then that's when I can that's when
my purpose is truly activated for whom he commissioned me
to be born from my two parents. Because you know,
you have to come through certain people. Because DNA makes
a big difference, environment makes a difference. Then the purpose
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that's there, my real real niche down why it becomes
evident because now it's almost like I've activated that faith
and yes, and is that the part that sometimes trips
us up past the herb that we don't get busy
or is it that we get busy doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I'm gonna say, because we'll procastinate and we'll come up
with all these different reasons why we cannot do certain things.
Our reason my hand. I can be a chief procrastinator.
I got an excuse. We become afraid of failure. We
look at what other people are doing and say I
could never do what they're doing. I don't have the resources.
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We talk about it in the book here I was
complaining about I didn't have time. I don't have time
to write a book.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I don't have time to do it. I got all
these other things and responsibilities. And then it became the
point to where if I make.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
The story of Moses got my wife is telling me, youse,
what's in your hand?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And what was in my hand was a sermon that
I wrote every week.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Why not turn that into a book, and that's exactly
what I did. I want to go back to some
of you say our purpose in walking in that purpose
and living in that particular purpose, Listen, your purpose will evolve.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I've been a teacher all my life.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I didn't know I was a teacher, but I just
wanted to teach people my entire life. Now, if you
had to ask me at fifteen, twenty twenty five, thirty
if I was going to be a pastor, I'd have
told you out your mind.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wasn't thinking about church in those early years. I
mean I was.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I didn't even think about God. I was walking and
proclaimed that he did not exist. But I had a
gift on the inside of me to teach, and it's
always been there.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
As I started using that gift in the army first,
then once I got out and got saved or I started
using that gift, then it became clearer. God wants me
to be used his gift to teach people to pastor.
God wanted me to use his gift to write books,
which is just getting back to teaching.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's just teach you in a written form.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So that's why I said, get busy doing something that's
on the insidety that comes natural and it may evolve
to something else to get busy.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Now we talk a little bit about the importance of
relationships because we know that writing and trying to get
published it can be a you know, it can be
a lonely road to walk. But talk about you know
who is some of the key people that helped you
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bring your book to life. And you've already mentioned it,
but I want you to go on a little deeper
for that and.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
How their support shaped the process.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Let me just say hello to Batman seven fifty seven,
but you talk about the importance of relationships and how
that helped up to sort of shift things for you
pastor Earth.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, we mentioned my queen earlier who encouraged me to
use what I had, but not only her.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
My MoMA wouldn't be here. She don'ted. I think you
mentioned her name earlier, earlier, Joe McDonald. She's there.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And praying for me when I was out there in
the world doing stuff I had no business doing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
She was constantly praying for me.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
When it comes to the publishing, doctor Lisa, I think
she calls herself doctor real Lisa and saying to y'all
go make Neil here on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
She was instrumental, just just.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Me able to bounce ideas off of her and just
talk to her and asked her questions about this publishing
business and what's going on. See, you can't do anything
in my estimation of significance without relationships.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
We are relational creatures.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
God didn't create us to live in some silo, but
we are to live in concert with others. And there
may be somebody who has something that we don't have,
some wisdom that we don't have, some insight, a contact
that we need. You know, I had an editor, she
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was she was, she's been fantastic sharing it. Who continues
to edit my stuff for me. So there's always somebody
who's going to help.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You get to where you're trying to go.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
If you're going to do with anything into anything significant
in this world, you need relationships.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So yes, and you know, to go back, you talked
about relationships when you were talking about the disciples, because
they had a relationship with Christ because they walked with
him for those years. So it was that relationship that
was able to sustain them once they saw him on
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the cross, and then they went out to do the
work that they were supposed to do. So that's another
example of the importance of relationship.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And I'm gonna pay it down.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
We're talking about publishing, but to me and you correct
me I from wrong. That's also the importance of relationships
as you are walking in your why.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Of course, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
When it comes to the publishing industry, either self publishing
or if you've been publishing with one of the big companies,
it's all about relationships. How do I understand how to
get this to market? Do the marketing, how do I
get the videos created? How do I get the pictures made?
How do I get my book cover done? All these
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are based on relationship, as we begin.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
To learn one another and talk to one another and share.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
When you talk about those disciples, yes they have relationship
with Jeese, but they needed that relationship with one another
to go out and do the things that they have
been created to do. The Great Apostle, Paul great as
he was, he knew he couldn't be multiple places at
one time. So he grabbed Timothy. Come on here, Timothy,
let me get you. Come on, Barnabas, let's let's get together.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
We're gonna change the world. But it was all about
those relationships and Christ. It's the same way he understood it.
He told us the type of fole he left, he
was going to use them.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It was not just gonna be about him.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
But he's telling them, you're gonna do greater things than I.
Hold up you I get walking on water. How are
we gonna do greater things than you? But he just
trying to get to see is I can only be
in one spot at one time. But I'm going to
empower you to go throughout the known world and share
the good news. And you are going to create this
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church that's going to change the world as we know it.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So, yes, relationships powerful it is.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And you know, no man or woman is an island.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yes, I almost stay in line with what I'm supposed
to be. So what advice would you give to aspiring
authors or dreamers about building a strong support system and
then leveraging that for success.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Build as many relationships as you can get out connect
with people, find people who are experts in the industry,
people who have already gone before you and did the
things that you're wanting to do, and build those relationships.
My queen is big and She's always challenging me to
get more mentors. Why because the mentor is somebody who's
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already been there and they don't necessarily want anything from you.
They just wanted an opportunity ask my mentors as mister
John doctor or doctor John.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
But Apostle Law.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
He's always saying, I want to leave a legacy, and
I'm somebody who he's trying to leave a legacy in
so that I can impact people, that I can be
able to walk around here saying some of the things
that he's already been through.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You go, those relationships.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Connect with people and this may sound cheesy, such as
doctor Tarz and some other people who are doing things
in the industry. I wish I had have known about
this platform before I started writing, and she would have
saved me some time as I would write it because
I would have understood a little bit more about the
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programs and what's going on and whatever out there. Yes,
the significance of those relationships. They help us understand where
we are, where we need to go. And as we're communicating,
we're connecting with other people. We're able to share things
and share our advice, and that can share things with us.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So yes, well, you.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Know, so when you talked about someone who's going before you,
I don't think that's what you said, but you said
it that way.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
But of course you may have said for a runner
because immediately thought about gender bathroom.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Oh yes, you know, THEA came before Christ and you
know we you know, I believe, and I've heard people
say that every answer you need is in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's a matter of how you view the.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Bible for me, because again that's another example of a
a mentor, someone who has gone through, who's walk those steps.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then I'm always getting my names interchange.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I get the wrong when I'm talking Elijah Elijah.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But again that was that mentor.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know what I'm saying and the thing that I
would say there, And I want you to just come
in a little bit about this.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You have to be careful though, who you let.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Mentor you, because you didn't get the wrong person mentoring you.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
By all means, all of the relationships are not good relationships.
So when it comes to the mentor, once again, looking
for somebody who's been there and they have done that,
and somebody who's looking to sew into you now necessarily
receive something from you, but they want to sw into you.
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They want to find a way to empower you and
to encourage you. John Maxwell go to Queen twenty one
Irrefutable Laws of Leadership. Before he became job Maxwell, the
world leadership Guru, he was traveling around from city to
city meeting with these various different pastoral leaders at that time,
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people who had been there and done that and going
ahead of him. And the reason he said he and
his wife would plan their vacations around going to meet
these mentors why because they had something.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
He needed, so he would.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Go to them to get what he needs so that
he could become the person.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That he was created to be. Listen, and it's the
same thing with us.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
We got to say, Okay, I need to find those
good mentors and find that person who's already been there,
done that, who's willing to and if your mentor is
not willing to take the time to schedule time with you,
whether that be once a week, once a month, once
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a quarter, if your mentor is not constantly sending you
information that helping you get the way you're trying to go,
challenging you. Listen, I got some mentees. I'm challenging them
if I'm not telling them what they're doing wrong, I'm
not being a good mentor to them. And it's the
same way Jesus was real with his disciples. He said, Peter,
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d behind me, Satan, get deep behind me. When he's
talking to Peter. He chastised Peter. Why because he's trying
to get Peter to a state, Peter, where you feed
my sheep.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He's restoring Peter.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He told to look ahead, you're gonna mess up Peter.
You're gonna deny me three times. You talk about all
this love you have me, but you're gonna deny me
three times. Jesus being Peter's teacher, his mentor, his rabbi,
he's challenging Peter.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
He sees what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
But he's also there after Peter fails to pick him
up and to restore him.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That's God, that's critical, and.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I want folks to understand.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You got to scrutinize these people that you say, could
go be your mentor.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yes, yes, yes, apostle, job off the hill, go get me.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It took me a minute to open up and allow.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Him to truly be my mentor. Because I can be
somewhat ah, I'm almost here. Stand offish, but I want
to make sure I understand who you are. Yes, I
want to make sure I understand what's your motive, what's
in this for you?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So it took me a minute to open up.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And this will really allow him to mentor me and
to teach me and to begin to show me things.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Because I was, I was reluctant. I thought, hold on.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
My dad talked and told me, you can really tell
what a person about is about if you've be in
a relationship then for a year. He tell me he
was in.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That time he was talking to me about girls. Just
hang around with her for about a year, you can
think about a year.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
After about a year, you starting to see her true colors.
And it's the same way when you're chopping a mentor.
Spend some time with them one on one time and listen,
treat your mental right. Don't go out to lunch with
your mentor and make them pay.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Nope, you're taking their time. So go out with them.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Have your questions ready, three, four or five questions that
you want to ask that mentor pay for the lunch. No,
you may have to make the adjustment to your schedule
to be with them. But then at the same time,
as you're sitting with them, listen, allow them to talk,
and just record with what they're saying and just receive it,
and you will see that relationship will develop in that
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mental or, they'll fight for the opportunity just to share
with you what they've learned over the years.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Just as you choose your mentor, you must ensure that
they choose you as their mentee. Yes, some mentors are
only for a season, and we are fortunately want to
take them throughout our life.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But we need.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Different mentors at different phases of our life.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And then you weigh in pastor Earth.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We need different mentors for different components of our life too.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Excellent. Yes, that's my queen talking, go queen.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yes, we were talking about something similar to this earlier today.
We're gonna preach this on Sunday. It's that sometimes we
stay in relationships too long. Preach whether that's a dating
relationship or a mentor mental relationship, a relationship with a job,
a relationship ministry. Sometimes we find ourselves in Egyptian bondage
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because we stayed too long, God pain, But we find
ourselves enjoying Egypt and because we enjoyed the Egypt so much,
we don't want to leave Egypt and go back to
the promised land that He has for us.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Us. Yeah, the promised Land.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Went through a famine, but that's the promised land God
has for you. So sometimes we find ourselves in these
jacked up relationships, whether it's a mentor, mentee.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Boyfriend, girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
We find ourselves married to the wrong person because we
stayed in the relations the date, relationship too long and
something happened and now we you know what.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Listen, Yes, there's different seasons.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
For different mentors and different mentees. We just have to
make sure we don't stay in some relationships too long.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Now, I want to ask this pastor rb Her excuse me.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Your devottion focuses on courage, faith and unity. We are
essentral for achieving your dream. How would you advise someone
who's chasing their dream? How would you advise them to
use those three things to have strengthen their journey.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So, as you're walking your journey and you're you're you're
doing the things that God has created you to do,
and he has, like I said, he has a caneing
out there for you. You walking towards that particular caning
and you're finding yourself at times, hitting some pitfalls that.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You don't want to hear.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Finding yourself there's some valleys, or finding yourself trying to
go up to the steep hill and is wearing you out.
It's gonna take a courage. It takes courage to go
places that other people are not willing to go. It
takes courage for you to go with places that you
can't see. Think about the Great Apostle Paul. He needed
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courage to go from city to city to city for
claiming the good news of Jesus Christ. That brother got
to some cities and they were stolen in him, beating him,
arresting him. It would have been very easy for him
just to go back and just chill the Damascus. But
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he says that he has a mission to do for God.
He has a gospel to proclaim, so it did not
matter what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
He had a boardg mentality.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
He had courage to move forward, and that courage was
rooted in his faith, faith in who God is, faith
in what God had called him to do.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
We talk about it in the book.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
We have to learn to be have faith in God's
faithfulness that God is faithful unto us, so it is
imparative that we put our faith in the fact that
God would never leave us nor forsakens.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
He's not going to turn his back on us if
he called us to something.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
It doesn't matter what storm we find ourselves in. He
saw the storm before the storm took place. We just
got to remember to walk in it. Have enough faith
in God and what God wants to do in us,
and have enough, let me say this, have enough faith
in ourselves. If God sees something great in you, there's
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something great in you. So many of us find ourselves
stuck on the side of the road because we don't
have enough faith in ourselves to allow God to use
us to do the great things. He said, I'm here,
I want to do great things with you. I want
to use you, but our lack of courage and our
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lack of faith.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's prevented us from doing it.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Now leads us to the unity thing you think about,
the unity walking together, not awing issues to cause the
problem we talked about being in relationship with one another.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
That's the unity.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Being able to have somebody who We're gonna encourage you,
somebody's gonna tell you the truth.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Somebody who's gonna so into you share things with you.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Right, it all comes together, my Queen and I, I think
I wrote it in the book.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
We chase so many things together.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
We've done real estate together, We've done business together, we're
doing we've done a couples ministry together. Now we're pastor
and the church together. It's all about the unity. Do
we get on each other's nerves sometime?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
By all means? We do?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
And I'd be like this woman here crazy, but I
wouldn't trace her for the world.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
We not that as one well.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
God has brought together with us, no man shall put
us under.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So we're gonna walk together.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
As she chases her dreams with a consulting business, as
I chase my dream with this pastoring.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
We do it together in the unity of God.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
We have to have enough faith in it and enough
courage to be able to do it all together.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You know, I just don't know where the time has gone.
It goes so quick when you're serving a little. So
help folks how they can stay connected with you and
where they can get your book?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
All right, So the book is on Amazon. The witnesses
who became witnesses jump out there and get it. You
can also find me here on this lovely platform Instagram
a Herb Wallace Junior. You can find me on Facebook
as either Herb Wallace or you can find us as
my wife has Herb, Priscilla Wallace. You can find me
on substack. If you like to read and you love
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just to read loan forms to find me on substack.
It's a platform similar to Facebook.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
But it's just for people who like to write.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
So you can find me there as an empowering word
and look. You can find me at this lovely church
called Exult Community Church. If you're in the greatest charlot
of the area, come on hang out with.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Us if you look at it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
If you're looking for some God chasers who are doing
life together about impacting the community for Him, We've got
a spot for you.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Come check us out to the clock on Sunday mornings.
Would love to have you well.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Pastor Herb. Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And if anyone is listening or with us today, I
will catch this on the replay.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
If you're looking for an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
To share your message to a global audience, I have
folks who follow me external to the United States, all
around the world, so please consider reaching out. I am
doctor Toaz and I would be happy to have you
on my platform sharing your message and your stories with
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my audience. Also, if you are in need of someone
to help you with your contrent creation, reach out to me.
I help folks in that way also, And then of
course I'm a strategist and a consultant, so please reach
out to me. You can always contact.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Me through my LinkedIn bio and I am doctor Teresa Smith.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
On IG and I want to thank everybody for joining
us today. Thank you again Pastor Herb Wallace for being
with me. As he said, you can follow him on
all those platforms ig, substat, Facebook.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Also, his book is available.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
On Amazon, and I will when I post the link
to my YouTube channel, I will put a link there
for his book.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
So again, thank you everyone, and thank you Pastor Herb.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And remember that doctor Taraz has told you you are
successful and don't worry about what anybody else says or
what anybody else thinks, because God is the architecture and
the fensher of your life and you successful. So thank
you again, Herb, and thank you everyone for joining us.
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Before you go taking care of someone else please, please
make sure.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
You take care of yourself first. By now
Welcome to the Talk with Tars. I'm doctor Teresa Smith,
doctor tars.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Today I am joined by Pastor Herb Wallace. He's a husband,
he's a father, he's an Army.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Veteran and an author who has He was here to
share powerful insights on faith, purpose and chasing your dreams.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Her welcome to the Talk with Tars.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hey, doctor Toars, thank you for having me. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you so so much.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, Pastor, you your work, whether as a pastor
as an author, is rooted in faith. How did you
discover your why and how has it sort of fueled
your journey?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh? Great question.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Let me let me let me say this. First, I
got to say hello to my Queen Priscilla Anne Wallace.
Thank you for being here to helping me. Thank you
for my Princess Sheila, my other children, the Amaya, Marquis Shaki.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just want to get him a shout out. How did
I discover my wife? Man? That's a that's a good story.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I was in your second Germany in the station
in the Army, and I kept walking around asking people
what's the purpose of life? While are we here? Why
do we get up every morning? Go to work and
for me at that time, get off, go get drunk,
go home, get back into bed, get up, and start
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the same cycle all over again.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
What's the purpose of life? What? What?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What is the man? I was aggravating people walking on,
asking what's what's the man? What am I supposed to
be doing as a man?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What is all this about? And while I was there.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
There was this this gentleman. He asked me this question.
He said, have you come to a point in your
life where if you were.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
To die to day you would go to heaven? I
had no answer to it.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Now, mind you, this guy's about six foot three, two
twenty five. All children were mostly we in this little
small Volkswagen bug.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
At that time.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I was probably one hundred and fifty five pounds soaking
with so the question was somewhat intimidating to me.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He asked me that question. I didn't have an answer. Well,
let it on.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
He invited me to a revival and there's this minister
from the States who came over.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He's preaching and.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm standing there and I'm not a crier, but on
that night, tears just kept flowing down my eyes, flowing
down my face. I'm just crying like a big old baby.
That led me to Christ on that night, and that's
when my wife started becoming more apparent to who I
am and what I'm supposed to be doing. That was
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the beginning of my journey to understand it why I
have been created, what's special unique about me? My training
to understand who God is and that there was a
creator in this world whore me and not only created
me he but he saved me for a specific purpose.
So yeah, that's that's that's the start of my journey.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, now are You've given us the backstory and how
you discovered your wife, So now how does that keep
propelling you today now that you've gotten that because you
didn't you had an idea then, But how did that
idea of that connection to God and becoming safe?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
How did that continue to fuel your journey?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Because I learned that God is my creator and if
he created me, he must have a specific reason why
he created me. So then as I developed a relationship
with him, I started more understanding of who I was
and what I was created for. And then I began
to start talking about God created me for a specific
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purpose to empower his people to be all that the
Lord has created them to be. Now, as I get
up in the morning, that's my focus. How can I
empower somebody else? How can I encourage somebody else? What
can I do today to point somebody else.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
To the Creator?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What can I do this today to show somebody else
how to have a relationship with him? That's that's my purpose.
That's why I'm here now. It doesn't matter what else
I go through. They can throw me a bunch of
different curve balls. I've had all kinds of ups and downs,
just like everybody else in life.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But what I've learned, and.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
What we talk about in the book as well, if
you go through some stuff, if you know your why
and you know who He is and the one who
created you for a specific purpose, you can deal with it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, think about the disciples. Think about him.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
They they were distraught. I mean, Jesus had been with
them three three and a half years, showed them everything,
walk with them, taught them, encourage them.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Then all of a sudden they see him hanging from
a cross.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
They are disturbed, distraught, they flee, they get.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Up out of there.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They don't know what to do. But then when you
turn to the Book of acts. These same disciples are
giving their life to proclaim the good news of Jesus
to Christ.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Why they discovered their.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Why, they discovered that they were the vest sos that
God was going to utilize to share the gospel with
the entire world. Now that didn't matter what happened to them.
They understood who they were and who they served. And
I think that as we as people understanding who we
are in Christ Jesus and who we serve, we can
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deal with anything that comes our way in life.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Absolutely absolutely earth. For those who are struggling to identify
their why are their true purpose? What steps would you
reckon me and they take to put them on the
path to understanding what it is?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
First, I would just say I will start off with prayer,
because God is the creator and he created you for
a specific purpose. To start by asking someone who created you?
Why did you create me? And for what reason? What
is it that you want me to do in this world?
And then, like and the Stanley teaches, I would encourage
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you to get busy doing something. What encourages you. I
like to ask people this question. If money was not
a problem, and you can do anything in the world
that you wanted to do, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And somewhere within that it's most likely your why.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's most likely to be that you want to do,
whether that be something with your hands, something with your mind,
whether that be mechanics, whether that be something in the arts,
whatever it is. If money was not an issue and
you could do anything in the world that you wanted
to do, that's where your wife is, that's where your purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Is, and then get busy doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Sometimes we look at it from a grand standpoint that
I have to be a best selling author in order
to be a real offer. No, just get started writing something.
Now you begin to write something, you begin to evolve
and you figure out things as you go.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The why is not for us, is how I've been taught.
It's for other people.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And you basically said the same thing, because you said,
you know, we start with prayer, asking God, who created us,
what is what is it that he wants for us?
What is it that he wants you to do? What's
our reason for being here?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Then you talked about.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then you know, if money was you asked Boks a question,
if money was not an issue, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And then it's like like in that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You will see because I certainly see it because I've
always done it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know, and I do it and I'm doing it now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What is it that I do that I've always done
that I love to do and if money was no issue,
I would still do it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And for me, it's.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Encouraging other people and sharing those people who may have
overcome something, sharing their stories, their messages, their business, whatever
you want to call it, because I've always encouraged individuals.
I've always heard people's stories since I was in middle
school and people would come and tell me the most
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private things. My peers as well as older people. Just
just you go in the grocery store and people just
tell me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The most stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And it's always been like that, so I know that
that's my that's my why, you know. And as you said,
whatever it is, get about doing it because the more
you do it, the more downloads what you're really supposed
to do. Because even when I just said that's huge,
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you'll get me niched down to where I'm really supposed
to be. And then that's when I can that's when
my purpose is truly activated for whom he commissioned me
to be born from my two parents. Because you know,
you have to come through certain people. Because DNA makes
a big difference, environment makes a difference. Then the purpose
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that's there, my real real niche down why it becomes
evident because now it's almost like I've activated that faith
and yes, and is that the part that sometimes trips
us up past the herb that we don't get busy
or is it that we get busy doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I'm gonna say, because we'll procastinate and we'll come up
with all these different reasons why we cannot do certain things.
Our reason my hand. I can be a chief procrastinator.
I got an excuse. We become afraid of failure. We
look at what other people are doing and say I
could never do what they're doing. I don't have the resources.
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We talk about it in the book here I was
complaining about I didn't have time. I don't have time
to write a book.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I don't have time to do it. I got all
these other things and responsibilities. And then it became the
point to where if I make.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
The story of Moses got my wife is telling me, youse,
what's in your hand?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And what was in my hand was a sermon that
I wrote every week.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Why not turn that into a book, and that's exactly
what I did. I want to go back to some
of you say our purpose in walking in that purpose
and living in that particular purpose, Listen, your purpose will evolve.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I've been a teacher all my life.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I didn't know I was a teacher, but I just
wanted to teach people my entire life. Now, if you
had to ask me at fifteen, twenty twenty five, thirty
if I was going to be a pastor, I'd have
told you out your mind.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wasn't thinking about church in those early years. I
mean I was.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I didn't even think about God. I was walking and
proclaimed that he did not exist. But I had a
gift on the inside of me to teach, and it's
always been there.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
As I started using that gift in the army first,
then once I got out and got saved or I started
using that gift, then it became clearer. God wants me
to be used his gift to teach people to pastor.
God wanted me to use his gift to write books,
which is just getting back to teaching.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's just teach you in a written form.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So that's why I said, get busy doing something that's
on the insidety that comes natural and it may evolve
to something else to get busy.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Now we talk a little bit about the importance of
relationships because we know that writing and trying to get
published it can be a you know, it can be
a lonely road to walk. But talk about you know
who is some of the key people that helped you
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bring your book to life. And you've already mentioned it,
but I want you to go on a little deeper
for that and.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
How their support shaped the process.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Let me just say hello to Batman seven fifty seven,
but you talk about the importance of relationships and how
that helped up to sort of shift things for you
pastor Earth.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, we mentioned my queen earlier who encouraged me to
use what I had, but not only her.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
My MoMA wouldn't be here. She don'ted. I think you
mentioned her name earlier, earlier, Joe McDonald. She's there.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And praying for me when I was out there in
the world doing stuff I had no business doing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
She was constantly praying for me.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
When it comes to the publishing, doctor Lisa, I think
she calls herself doctor real Lisa and saying to y'all
go make Neil here on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
She was instrumental, just just.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Me able to bounce ideas off of her and just
talk to her and asked her questions about this publishing
business and what's going on. See, you can't do anything
in my estimation of significance without relationships.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
We are relational creatures.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
God didn't create us to live in some silo, but
we are to live in concert with others. And there
may be somebody who has something that we don't have,
some wisdom that we don't have, some insight, a contact
that we need. You know, I had an editor, she
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was she was, she's been fantastic sharing it. Who continues
to edit my stuff for me. So there's always somebody
who's going to help.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You get to where you're trying to go.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
If you're going to do with anything into anything significant
in this world, you need relationships.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So yes, and you know, to go back, you talked
about relationships when you were talking about the disciples, because
they had a relationship with Christ because they walked with
him for those years. So it was that relationship that
was able to sustain them once they saw him on
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the cross, and then they went out to do the
work that they were supposed to do. So that's another
example of the importance of relationship.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And I'm gonna pay it down.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
We're talking about publishing, but to me and you correct
me I from wrong. That's also the importance of relationships
as you are walking in your why.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Of course, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
When it comes to the publishing industry, either self publishing
or if you've been publishing with one of the big companies,
it's all about relationships. How do I understand how to
get this to market? Do the marketing, how do I
get the videos created? How do I get the pictures made?
How do I get my book cover done? All these
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are based on relationship, as we begin.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
To learn one another and talk to one another and share.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
When you talk about those disciples, yes they have relationship
with Jeese, but they needed that relationship with one another
to go out and do the things that they have
been created to do. The Great Apostle, Paul great as
he was, he knew he couldn't be multiple places at
one time. So he grabbed Timothy. Come on here, Timothy,
let me get you. Come on, Barnabas, let's let's get together.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
We're gonna change the world. But it was all about
those relationships and Christ. It's the same way he understood it.
He told us the type of fole he left, he
was going to use them.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It was not just gonna be about him.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
But he's telling them, you're gonna do greater things than I.
Hold up you I get walking on water. How are
we gonna do greater things than you? But he just
trying to get to see is I can only be
in one spot at one time. But I'm going to
empower you to go throughout the known world and share
the good news. And you are going to create this
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church that's going to change the world as we know it.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So, yes, relationships powerful it is.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And you know, no man or woman is an island.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yes, I almost stay in line with what I'm supposed
to be. So what advice would you give to aspiring
authors or dreamers about building a strong support system and
then leveraging that for success.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Build as many relationships as you can get out connect
with people, find people who are experts in the industry,
people who have already gone before you and did the
things that you're wanting to do, and build those relationships.
My queen is big and She's always challenging me to
get more mentors. Why because the mentor is somebody who's
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already been there and they don't necessarily want anything from you.
They just wanted an opportunity ask my mentors as mister
John doctor or doctor John.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
But Apostle Law.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
He's always saying, I want to leave a legacy, and
I'm somebody who he's trying to leave a legacy in
so that I can impact people, that I can be
able to walk around here saying some of the things
that he's already been through.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You go, those relationships.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Connect with people and this may sound cheesy, such as
doctor Tarz and some other people who are doing things
in the industry. I wish I had have known about
this platform before I started writing, and she would have
saved me some time as I would write it because
I would have understood a little bit more about the
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programs and what's going on and whatever out there. Yes,
the significance of those relationships. They help us understand where
we are, where we need to go. And as we're communicating,
we're connecting with other people. We're able to share things
and share our advice, and that can share things with us.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So yes, well, you.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Know, so when you talked about someone who's going before you,
I don't think that's what you said, but you said
it that way.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
But of course you may have said for a runner
because immediately thought about gender bathroom.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Oh yes, you know, THEA came before Christ and you
know we you know, I believe, and I've heard people
say that every answer you need is in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's a matter of how you view the.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Bible for me, because again that's another example of a
a mentor, someone who has gone through, who's walk those steps.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then I'm always getting my names interchange.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I get the wrong when I'm talking Elijah Elijah.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But again that was that mentor.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know what I'm saying and the thing that I
would say there, And I want you to just come
in a little bit about this.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You have to be careful though, who you let.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Mentor you, because you didn't get the wrong person mentoring you.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
By all means, all of the relationships are not good relationships.
So when it comes to the mentor, once again, looking
for somebody who's been there and they have done that,
and somebody who's looking to sew into you now necessarily
receive something from you, but they want to sw into you.
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They want to find a way to empower you and
to encourage you. John Maxwell go to Queen twenty one
Irrefutable Laws of Leadership. Before he became job Maxwell, the
world leadership Guru, he was traveling around from city to
city meeting with these various different pastoral leaders at that time,
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people who had been there and done that and going
ahead of him. And the reason he said he and
his wife would plan their vacations around going to meet
these mentors why because they had something.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
He needed, so he would.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Go to them to get what he needs so that
he could become the person.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That he was created to be. Listen, and it's the
same thing with us.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
We got to say, Okay, I need to find those
good mentors and find that person who's already been there,
done that, who's willing to and if your mentor is
not willing to take the time to schedule time with you,
whether that be once a week, once a month, once
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a quarter, if your mentor is not constantly sending you
information that helping you get the way you're trying to go,
challenging you. Listen, I got some mentees. I'm challenging them
if I'm not telling them what they're doing wrong, I'm
not being a good mentor to them. And it's the
same way Jesus was real with his disciples. He said, Peter,
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d behind me, Satan, get deep behind me. When he's
talking to Peter. He chastised Peter. Why because he's trying
to get Peter to a state, Peter, where you feed
my sheep.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He's restoring Peter.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He told to look ahead, you're gonna mess up Peter.
You're gonna deny me three times. You talk about all
this love you have me, but you're gonna deny me
three times. Jesus being Peter's teacher, his mentor, his rabbi,
he's challenging Peter.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
He sees what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
But he's also there after Peter fails to pick him
up and to restore him.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That's God, that's critical, and.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I want folks to understand.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You got to scrutinize these people that you say, could
go be your mentor.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yes, yes, yes, apostle, job off the hill, go get me.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It took me a minute to open up and allow.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Him to truly be my mentor. Because I can be
somewhat ah, I'm almost here. Stand offish, but I want
to make sure I understand who you are. Yes, I
want to make sure I understand what's your motive, what's
in this for you?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So it took me a minute to open up.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And this will really allow him to mentor me and
to teach me and to begin to show me things.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Because I was, I was reluctant. I thought, hold on.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
My dad talked and told me, you can really tell
what a person about is about if you've be in
a relationship then for a year. He tell me he
was in.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That time he was talking to me about girls. Just
hang around with her for about a year, you can
think about a year.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
After about a year, you starting to see her true colors.
And it's the same way when you're chopping a mentor.
Spend some time with them one on one time and listen,
treat your mental right. Don't go out to lunch with
your mentor and make them pay.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Nope, you're taking their time. So go out with them.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Have your questions ready, three, four or five questions that
you want to ask that mentor pay for the lunch. No,
you may have to make the adjustment to your schedule
to be with them. But then at the same time,
as you're sitting with them, listen, allow them to talk,
and just record with what they're saying and just receive it,
and you will see that relationship will develop in that
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mental or, they'll fight for the opportunity just to share
with you what they've learned over the years.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Just as you choose your mentor, you must ensure that
they choose you as their mentee. Yes, some mentors are
only for a season, and we are fortunately want to
take them throughout our life.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But we need.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Different mentors at different phases of our life.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And then you weigh in pastor Earth.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We need different mentors for different components of our life too.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Excellent. Yes, that's my queen talking, go queen.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yes, we were talking about something similar to this earlier today.
We're gonna preach this on Sunday. It's that sometimes we
stay in relationships too long. Preach whether that's a dating
relationship or a mentor mental relationship, a relationship with a job,
a relationship ministry. Sometimes we find ourselves in Egyptian bondage
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because we stayed too long, God pain, But we find
ourselves enjoying Egypt and because we enjoyed the Egypt so much,
we don't want to leave Egypt and go back to
the promised land that He has for us.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Us. Yeah, the promised Land.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Went through a famine, but that's the promised land God
has for you. So sometimes we find ourselves in these
jacked up relationships, whether it's a mentor, mentee.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Boyfriend, girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
We find ourselves married to the wrong person because we
stayed in the relations the date, relationship too long and
something happened and now we you know what.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Listen, Yes, there's different seasons.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
For different mentors and different mentees. We just have to
make sure we don't stay in some relationships too long.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Now, I want to ask this pastor rb Her excuse me.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Your devottion focuses on courage, faith and unity. We are
essentral for achieving your dream. How would you advise someone
who's chasing their dream? How would you advise them to
use those three things to have strengthen their journey.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So, as you're walking your journey and you're you're you're
doing the things that God has created you to do,
and he has, like I said, he has a caneing
out there for you. You walking towards that particular caning
and you're finding yourself at times, hitting some pitfalls that.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You don't want to hear.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Finding yourself there's some valleys, or finding yourself trying to
go up to the steep hill and is wearing you out.
It's gonna take a courage. It takes courage to go
places that other people are not willing to go. It
takes courage for you to go with places that you
can't see. Think about the Great Apostle Paul. He needed
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courage to go from city to city to city for
claiming the good news of Jesus Christ. That brother got
to some cities and they were stolen in him, beating him,
arresting him. It would have been very easy for him
just to go back and just chill the Damascus. But
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he says that he has a mission to do for God.
He has a gospel to proclaim, so it did not
matter what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
He had a boardg mentality.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
He had courage to move forward, and that courage was
rooted in his faith, faith in who God is, faith
in what God had called him to do.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
We talk about it in the book.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
We have to learn to be have faith in God's
faithfulness that God is faithful unto us, so it is
imparative that we put our faith in the fact that
God would never leave us nor forsakens.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
He's not going to turn his back on us if
he called us to something.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
It doesn't matter what storm we find ourselves in. He
saw the storm before the storm took place. We just
got to remember to walk in it. Have enough faith
in God and what God wants to do in us,
and have enough, let me say this, have enough faith
in ourselves. If God sees something great in you, there's
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something great in you. So many of us find ourselves
stuck on the side of the road because we don't
have enough faith in ourselves to allow God to use
us to do the great things. He said, I'm here,
I want to do great things with you. I want
to use you, but our lack of courage and our
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lack of faith.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's prevented us from doing it.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Now leads us to the unity thing you think about,
the unity walking together, not awing issues to cause the
problem we talked about being in relationship with one another.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
That's the unity.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Being able to have somebody who We're gonna encourage you,
somebody's gonna tell you the truth.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Somebody who's gonna so into you share things with you.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Right, it all comes together, my Queen and I, I think
I wrote it in the book.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
We chase so many things together.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
We've done real estate together, We've done business together, we're
doing we've done a couples ministry together. Now we're pastor
and the church together. It's all about the unity. Do
we get on each other's nerves sometime?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
By all means? We do?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
And I'd be like this woman here crazy, but I
wouldn't trace her for the world.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
We not that as one well.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
God has brought together with us, no man shall put
us under.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So we're gonna walk together.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
As she chases her dreams with a consulting business, as
I chase my dream with this pastoring.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
We do it together in the unity of God.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
We have to have enough faith in it and enough
courage to be able to do it all together.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You know, I just don't know where the time has gone.
It goes so quick when you're serving a little. So
help folks how they can stay connected with you and
where they can get your book?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
All right, So the book is on Amazon. The witnesses
who became witnesses jump out there and get it. You
can also find me here on this lovely platform Instagram
a Herb Wallace Junior. You can find me on Facebook
as either Herb Wallace or you can find us as
my wife has Herb, Priscilla Wallace. You can find me
on substack. If you like to read and you love
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just to read loan forms to find me on substack.
It's a platform similar to Facebook.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
But it's just for people who like to write.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
So you can find me there as an empowering word
and look. You can find me at this lovely church
called Exult Community Church. If you're in the greatest charlot
of the area, come on hang out with.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Us if you look at it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
If you're looking for some God chasers who are doing
life together about impacting the community for Him, We've got
a spot for you.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Come check us out to the clock on Sunday mornings.
Would love to have you well.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Pastor Herb. Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And if anyone is listening or with us today, I
will catch this on the replay.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
If you're looking for an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
To share your message to a global audience, I have
folks who follow me external to the United States, all
around the world, so please consider reaching out. I am
doctor Toaz and I would be happy to have you
on my platform sharing your message and your stories with
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my audience. Also, if you are in need of someone
to help you with your contrent creation, reach out to me.
I help folks in that way also, And then of
course I'm a strategist and a consultant, so please reach
out to me. You can always contact.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Me through my LinkedIn bio and I am doctor Teresa Smith.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
On IG and I want to thank everybody for joining
us today. Thank you again Pastor Herb Wallace for being
with me. As he said, you can follow him on
all those platforms ig, substat, Facebook.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Also, his book is available.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
On Amazon, and I will when I post the link
to my YouTube channel, I will put a link there
for his book.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
So again, thank you everyone, and thank you Pastor Herb.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And remember that doctor Taraz has told you you are
successful and don't worry about what anybody else says or
what anybody else thinks, because God is the architecture and
the fensher of your life and you successful. So thank
you again, Herb, and thank you everyone for joining us.
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Before you go taking care of someone else please, please
make sure.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
You take care of yourself first. By now
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