The Pez Dispenser (S03E14)

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I asked her if she wanted togo out to dinner, and she said
no, maybe we could get togetherfor lunch. You know what that means?
What's with lunch? Lunch is fineat the beginning. Then you move
on to dinner. You don't goback to lunch. It's like being demoted.
I'll never do another cross with puzzlewith her again. I know it.
I like the jumble. You everdo the jumble? I have no

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power. Don't you understand? Ineed hand? I have no hand.
Break up with her? What youbreak up with her? You reverse everything
that way? A preemptive break up. A preemptive break up. This is
an incredible idea. I got nothingto lose. We either break up,

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which she would do anyway, butat least I go out with some dignity,
or I completely turned the tables.This is absolutely brilliant. Welcome to

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Talking Sinfeld, the podcast where wediscuss everything we know about the show about
Nothing, and this week we arehere to review the episode of the Pez
Dispenser. I am Dando, Iam guy Dando. Are you doing my
name? I'm doing very well,sir, had a nice weekend or just
discussing off here that went out withthe lovely wife of mine, Nicola,
who congratulations. By the way,I'm not sure if I said on this
podcast yet, but she was promotedto manager of her workplace. She now

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manages all of Victoria and all ofTasmania, two whole states she's a manager
of. I didn't realize it wastwo whole states. Yeah. Yeah,
So she's now running the business forthe state, and she's running the business
at you're a state. Yeah yeah, me managing me far more difficult than
managing her business. But yes,congratulations to my lovely wife, Nicola,
who's out in there. And notthe best thing about my wife too,

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is she's so understanding and so supportiveof this show and everything we do here
at the four Finger Discount Network.That she's managing the state at our kitchen
table so we can have this officespace to do our podcast. Oh that's
just saintly. It is what itis. Yes, she is spongeworthy,
but anyway, yes, so whatabout you? What do you do for

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the weekend? Very little and sohappy about it. It's so good.
When I was just saying that,you know, you've just got a couple
of hours and of no interruptions becauseI mean, I've got kids. You've
lived with Louise, live Luise,but Louise is most of your time.
He's your kids running around, hethere and everywhere. And they're older,
so they're louder than you know they'rethey're basically young adults just running around the

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house. But when there's no onein the house, it's just used to
us, like it's just our time, baby. We can just watch whatever
we want. We can we canget to sleep for two hours. It
crosswords into bed. Didn't By theway, that sounded so nice. When
when he said that, I waslike, young Dando wouldn't get that.
Thirty four year old Dando gets itand appreciates it and has it in his

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favorite moments. I just love thatlife. We did a crossword in the
bed, and the sheer joy ofGeorge just we did a crossword in the
bed. It sounds amazing. Hemade it sound like the most appealing thing,
and quite honestly, it does.Yeah, yeah, there are plenty
of good things in doing the bedroom. Simpson once said, yes, I
too, like a bit of twoacross and three down, if you know

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little as just one dollar per month. We'd appreciate you if you could do
that as well, if you couldafford it. But yes, The Pest
Dispenser another really great episode of Seinfeld. When I was looking forward to reviewing,
and it did not disappoint. Itwas just it was very simple,
this story, and I guess that'ssort of that's just sci felt in a
nutshell at the time. It's justa simple premise, not a whole lot
going on, but still it's thedialogue that makes it. There's not a

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lot when it comes to like scenarios. The scenarios aren't grand, it's not
a huge deal going on scenario wise, but just the banter back and forth,
it was just a whole lot offun in this I thought very much.
So yeah, I mean, justas Friends has its titles, the
one with Seinfeld does as well.But I mean, yeah, you primarily
go, oh, yeah, thisis the one with the pest dispencer.

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And I was calling the pest dispenserof course, but yeah, you're not
really thinking so much about the plotor or the story or anything like that.
You really are sort of remembering bitsand pieces and how it makes it
fun. I always just whatever Ihear the pest dispenser, I think of
Jerry doing the little clap with apest dispenser. And you mentioned dialogue as

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well. But one thing that reallystruck me about this episode, and look,
There are episodes before this one thatwe've reviewed and we've brought it up,
but this really struck me as havingthat particular Seinfeld rhythm. You know,
It's just the way certain lines aredelivered, the way scenes sort of

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the way actors bounced one another,way scenes perculated along. It just felt
quintessentially Sinefeld to me. What Iliked about this story was how they managed
to get something as insignificant as apesti spencer and highlight that's something so tiny
and so small can create such chaosthey put into the wrong hands because all

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of this started because Joey put alittle pest spencer in a lane lap and
that was it by personally blown Cramerfor this for just you know, bringing
it into their world in the firstplace. Yeah, that's that's the question.
And they play on that as wellbecause they say Cramer indirectly caused Richie
to get onto the too drugs andwhatnot, and he also indirectly was the
reason that or everything goes to shipin this episode as well. Absolute agent

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of chaos, that man just causingtrouble wherever he goes, No, not
intending to. There's no malice inCramer, but just the way he goes
about things throws the universe into disarray. That is a good one. Still,
So what were your favorite moments fromthe episode. I'm a big fan
of George in general, just tryingto control everything, you know, not

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only his relationship with Noel, butyou know when when there's that first meeting,
that when Jerry and elinare first goingto meet Noel, and you know,
he sort of wants everyone to listento me. I'm telling you how
things are. I'm the boss here. Like you, you must be feel
sorry and be embarrassed and apologize tome, or at least be not not

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what's the way? Just be sorryfor what they've done. And that is
ain't care. That don't care andnothing more irritating when someone's done something wrong
and they're showing no remorse for it. It's like, be sorry, that's
what you say. Sorry. ButI think the bit, the bit of
that that I love the most wasjust when he said something about cut to
the chase and Jerry just can't believecut to the chase. What are you,
Joe? Hollywood. It's always funnywhen someone when a friend of yours

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and someone you can take the pissout of without them taking it too personally,
or someone you can call on beinga bit of a wanker and them
not being completely heartbroken by going andyou've probably got a point. They try
to incorporate some cool new slang oryou know, they're they're trying something that's
just not them and they're trying justa little bit too hard, and you

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sort of have to pull the reinsback on on the lit and scene,
it's no, don't do that,not even don't do that. So I
don't do that. Don't do that. That's why I had a friend of
mine who kept trying to kept tryingto say, that's a vibe. I
don't start this. It sounds stupidcoming out of your mouth. It sounds
stupid coming out of anybody's mouth.I do apologize. There's any listeners out

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there that do say that, youknow, more power to you. But
this friend of mine, when hekept saying that's a vibe, like,
stop it, stupid, it's nota vibe. You're creating a bad one
by saying it. Stop it.Please just doct trying to make fair chapp
and buddy, Yeah, I reallyenjoyed just George's sheer glee at the start
of this and obviously another episode anotherGeorge girlfriend, but that aside. But

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I just really enjoy just we dida crossway in bed. I was like,
that's awesome. George, for allhis faults, and he does have
many deserves a w every once ina while, he deserves a win,
and it feels like he had oneat the start here. You know,
even though George being George, heof course is going to self sabotage but
saying she's just too good for me, and you know, all that kind

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of business. But it did soundlike, well, first of all,
invariably, you're going to be punchingabove your weight. Men are always punching
above their weight. I know,I certainly am. I'm sloping with the
boss now, mate, I'm sorry. That just cracks me up. But

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the fact that he sounds so happy, Yeah, I mean, I think,
yeah, we're both coming back tothe crossword in bed. It's weird
how that's just become how shorthand forlike ideal relationship relationship goals, Well,
I've got here for all these faults. George must be doing something right with
the ladies, because he's getting alot of girlfriends. He can't keep them
because, like he said, heself sabotages, but he said to be

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able to get them pretty well.That's the thing. I think it's about
Jason Alexander as well. I mean, not necessarily the most handsome man,
and you know, he's kind ofI don't know how old George is meant
to be in these things. Ithink we talk about this a lot because
it's like early to mid thirties onthe shom Yeah, I know, he's
got the receipted hairline and you knowhe's not exactly buff and he's not a

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big guy, but there's just somethingabout him. He's kind of he's got
a weird charisma. I mean,people talk a lot about Kramer's weird charisma
and how he's kind of a manin some ways. But that's because he
plays that. His character needs that, like Michael Richard plays that up.
He does have that charisma, buthe really that's that's his stick for the

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show where George he has a lotof other things going on for him.
But you're right though, Jason Alexander, there's something about it and it just
makes you go, you're not thatattractive, but there's something about you that
makes me just want to be withyou. Yeah. I've mentioned in the
past that, you know, JasonAlexander was in the cast of this eighties
early eighties horror movie called The Burning, a real slasher movie. Always bring

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this up. You love it.It's weird for me to say that love
it because it's a gross horror movie. I mean, it's insanely bloody.
It's just disreputable to the max.But it's the first time I saw Jason
Alexander. And you know, he'sgot his still got his hair in this,
and he's playing kind of the theBill Murray type at the summer camp.
You know, he's he looks fartoo old to be an actual camper

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there. I think he might bea counsel or something like that. But
he's just got a real energy.It's like, this is the kind of
ago you want to be around.He's the kind of you know, he
walks in, it's like, hey, the party started. So even though
he was by the way, hewas he was thirty two when this episode
came out. Okay, so he'sgot a few Yeah, he's still got
some miles on the meter at thisstage. And you know, the hair's

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gone, he's got the love handles, but that energy is still there even
if, like, even though he'splaying it down as George Costanza, who's
kind of this born loser, thatthat charisma is still there. You can't
wholly deny it. So maybe that'sit. Maybe that's women see it and
they want it as as someone who'sthirty four. Now I find it not
confronting that the fact that he's thirtytwo. But I think it's because I

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grew up and when Sifel was firston, I was so young, so
I always saw these people Jerry,Elaine Cramer, George as old people.
But I'm now older than what theywere in that show was made. It's
just like, oh shit. It'slike when I when you're a kid,
you think your parents are so old, and I'm like, no, but
dad was like twenty seven. Hewas an old at all. When I

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was a kid, like he seemedlike he was a real old person.
Now I'm like, it makes mefeel like because we went out for drinks
last Friday night Nicola Enough for thefirst time in ages like a pool hall
slate here in Gelong, and there'sall these sort of like twenty year olds
walking amaut, I'm thinking at certainpoints where I'm thinking he's like girls like
looking at me, thinking, who'sthis fucking old guy? Like I don't
feel old, but sometimes I havethose moments where I'm like and they looking
at me, judging me, saying, who's this old guy? Thinking he

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questioning who do you think he is? Hanging out all these kids? Like
it just it felt weird. Andthe weirdest thing was, and I pointed
this out to Nicola, was thatthere was like girls and guys there who
were like four or five years belowme at high school who are now like
grown adults. And I'm like,wow, this is just so strange.
I think it's just because I don'tgo out very often. I probably would
if you saw them all the time, it wouldn't matter. But just like,

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I haven't seen you since you wereyear eight. Now you're like in
your mid twenties. What's happening here? It was just, yeah, it's
tough. I'm getting older. Imean, I'll find myself. You know,
I'll be at the supermarket, forinstance, in here, go through
the checkout and you'll be having anot banter with the young person you know
behind the counter or whatever. Manningthe checkout, but asking how they Yeah,

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but you sort of realize, ohmy, that old person who's like,
how's your day going? All right? Are you're doing a very good
job. It doesn't help that you'redoing your Bobby impersonation. That's that's not
a Bobby in person, that's justjust very old person. What's your Bobby
impersonation? I thought it was yourBobby. I don't know if I can
imitate Dad. I'll give it awell, but I'm not going to certainly

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do it off the off the batright now, Okay, But then realizing
oh well, you sort of haveto keep yourself in checking out, Okay,
don't try make sure that what you'resaying to this person who is probably
three decades and change younger than you. Make sure you're not that sleazy old
guy who's like just talking to thekids like you're one of the kids,

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just like, oh you you mustbe on that TikTok. Yeah, show
you going out after this day.I heard a guy say that to this
girl. It happened last week.I was picking up a gift for Holly
from Big w here in Geelong andthis girl was serving and there was the
guy in front of me, andhe goes, and because it was us,

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that was Friday. It was Fridaywhen I was picked up, And
he goes, Friday night must bea night for you. You're going out
with your friends tonight. And I'mlike, don't ask this girl that.
She looks like she's sucking twelve,like she's an old guy, like just
going out tonight. Ah, yeah, I'm sure you have a good time
tonight with your friends. Yeah,yeah, you'd like to drink? Do
you like? This is pedophile?When I when he asked, when he

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asked, the hold you like todrink? I was like, what is
going on? So, yeah,there's that realization when you get a few
more miles on the man's oh yeah, keep yourself with check. When you're
sort of talking, there's a fineline between I appreciate your You've got a
fairly average job here, I'm doingmy best to sort of show my appreciation

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for at the same time, Yeah, you don't want to be like,
yeah, rap up in a coupleof airs, do what's happening? Then
yeah, it's like you're you're atruly when there's no schooldies on, it's
terrible. Yeah, exactly, Now, this episode is called the pest Dispense.
Obviously, the whole thing is aboutthe chaos that has created from this
pest dispense being put on a Lane'slap. Were you ever a pest dispenser

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guy? I was never really apest dispenser. I think I had several.
I've got a couple of You've gota few Muppets ones, and when
we used like the Muppets ones,and Atlie's got a couple they seem to
sort of stil make them out.It's got a couple of superhero ones.
But I was never a pest dispenserguy. It was always too difficult to
load them, and I just gaveup. I was like, it's too
hard. It's given me a lollipop. Yeah, pretty much, isn't it?
Like this seems like a lot ofeffort to go for a little bit

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of a sugary treat. I'll rememberpest dispense were kind of a big thing
when I was a kid, Andyeah, look, I'm sure I had
a few of them. They probablyhad times and things like Star Wars and
all that kind of person. Iprobably had a Darth vade on one or
something along those lines. But yeah, I can't see it's funny. I'm
wondering how far out of the popculture consciousness they'd been when this episode aired,

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because it's like a lot apparently inJesson Alexander says, because of this
episode, suddenly they were like rebornagain and everyone was walking in with a
pest dispenser and Pez were like sothankful, and I'll sending them free pears
and they made a Jerry Pez forJerry and a George Run for Jason and
whatnot. But he was saying theydidn't intend for that. They didn't mean
that. They didn't actually expect that. The whole joke was that this pest
dispenser so insignificant, no one likeshim anymore. They didn't think that there

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was going to create a boom,but it did. And just and he
said that Jason was saying in thein the inside look that it was the
first time in his experience that herealized, wait a minute, this show
has some power now. Was Seinfelda show that seemed to have some sort
of like impact in Australia. Ialways never really saw it as one that
did that. But we're people walkingaround and doing the whole YadA YadA YadA,
And I think certainly around this periodof the show as well, when

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it's really it's done to gain abit of momentum, YadA, YadA,
YadA, No soup for you.I mean this is all stuff down the
line, of course, but yeah, yeah, when it was in it
in its groove and not just anAmerica in Australia, Yeah, there was
a lot of you know, theseparticels are making me thirsty. And it's
a very catchphrase heavy show, andthat's a short cut to just worming your

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way into someone's head if you've comeup with a a nifty one liner that
you can sort of drop in ifyou don't have the ability to come up
with jokes on your own, butif you do have the ability to realize
if I say no soup for youhere in relation to something, I'm going
to be the life of the partyfor like a split second. Yeah,

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and Seinfeld really has a lot ofthose, So yeah, I mean that's
one of the one of the bigreasons it became popular. I'm sure would
you say that it's all like thenineties equivalent of the eighties, maybe equivalent
of like funko pops, just likea fad. I think Smurfs for the
eighties equivalent of Funco Pops. Smurfswere humans. Smurfs is a licensed Funco

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have all these different licenses and theymake their designs. Oh okay, yeah,
so like Pez is like a thing. They can get all different licenses
and brands and apply it to theirmodel. That's a good way of putting
it. Actually, yeah, Ihadn't really thought of it that way,
but yeah, I mean, certainly, PEZ put a whole bunch of different
heads on top of their little dispenses, and I seemed to record it was

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a bit of m I'd like thatone, please, Yeah, yeah,
yep, you're get the whole set. The last thing I really enjoy about
this episode, by the way,before we getting to trivia, I feel
like you would would have really likedthis as well, was the conversation about
pouch envy. At least give mea pucket. I love that old guy.
He was fantastic from the bowler likehe was given a few lines,

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but he ate them up. Man, what you don't want to be a
bowler anymore? To gold by veryfunny? Could you spell that? Please?
No? Next question? All right, it is time for some Trivia
here on talking Sinfeld for the pestDispenser. But before we do that,
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But anyway, time for some triviahere. My first question is for
you how many pez did Kramer initiallypurchase? He bought five, didn't he?

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That's great? Five? Yeah,yeah, my favorite number. What's
your favorite number? Mine's always beenfive. I like seven. It's funny,
a lot of people are either fiveor seven. It's what is it
about five and seven? It's justfive and seven to so many people's favorite
number. M I'm very curious.Now, why do you think that would
be the case. I have noidea but like whenever I played Keynote,
like Nicolas playing Keynote, it's wealways just choose three to five seven,

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and we have never not one atonce. So have you picked three numbers
in Keyno? You get like fiftybucks? You win fifty bucks, right,
And we always put on twenty games, and every single time we've won
at least once, So it coststwenty bucks. We always walk home double
em money. So three to fiveseven, if you ever play Keyno,
do it. Maybe that's the reasonmy first question to you, Yeah,

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George, hands Jerry a can ofsomething? What is it? I was
just the one that I was talkingabout. This should be more popular.
No, no, it's not mentionedat all, but you can see it
and you distinctly know what it isthat I'm gonna say, diet coke,
and you would be correct in doing. Jerry just seems like a diet coke
kind of guy, don't you reckon? Ye? Come on, be a

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coke zero going to go. We'vetalked about it. I think I would
have had coke zero, not no, not coke zero or not even coke
no sugar, just coke and dietcoke, not even coke clear. It's
gone. They probably had new cokeand that's forget. My next question is
what was the name of the oldguy who was killed by the gatorade?
That's the club owner, and hisname was Marty Benson? Correct? Yes,

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m What temperature is it when Kramerswims in the morning with the polar
bears? Nah? Got me?What is it? He said it was
twenty nine degrees, which I notonly assume is fahrenheit. We've talked about
this our American friends. Get withthe program. Get celsius, get feet,
I mean get centimeters, not feetcephrend degrees fahrenheit into celsius. Is

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it is minus one point six?That ship is cold? And my final
question here for the pest of Spenceris how old was Mrty when he died?
That I don't know, but Iwant to say sixty five, oh,
nearly sixty seven. He should havego with your lucky number, your
lucky number, which I have aquestion for you if he wants them more.

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And it's funny because you mentioned earlierabout the drink, but what is
on what are two of the thingson George's conversation list with Noel? Ah?
Yeah, how he can reverse parkis that right, that's one first
park. And why is it's postedor something? Why is more popular drink?
It's called post them? I didn'tlook it up. What is post
them? Do you think it's areplacement for coffee? Oh? Okay,

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yeah, So basically, if youdon't want to drink coffee, you drink
this. And a lot of Mormonsdrink it because they were they don't drink
coffee, so they would drink thisinstead. But I'm not a coffee drinker
at all, so I don't needit. I don't need a replacement.
I just don't want it at all. But yes, you've got any more
trivia questions for me before we getinto our review? Oh? I think
that order to do is don't youthink let's let's jump into the episode.

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The original air day of The PestDispenser was January fifteenth, nineteen ninet
two. It was written by LarryDavid and directed by who Mister Davis,
Tom Sharonez, starring Fred Sanders asJohn and Elizabeth Moorehead as Nowel, and

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we're just discussing just then. Ithink Elizabeth really appeared in much, which
surprised and because I thought she dida great job as Noel. She was
very good in this and we'll getto it when we get to it.
But she, you know, isthe she puts the Kappa on the episode
very very nicely. But yeah,I think, like you, Dana looked
up her CV, they looked atPresidium, looked up her other credits.

(25:33):
Once this episode was done. It'slike, you know, she had one
of those actor's careers where it's likeI'm gonna guest Daron Roll on this and
this. You know, she wasa lead on this probably short lived show.
But yeah, not an actor's career, not a star's career, but
you know, an actor's career.But she's terrific in this episode. Yeah,
just plays very well with the Seinfeldcrew. You brought up the ending

(25:56):
there with the Kappa of that whereyou're gonna you're gonna need it whatever she
says it without the hand. It'snot very often that Seinfeld has moments like
that. That was a very sick, coomed kind of ending, and it
wasn't a bad one. It wasfunny, and because they don't do it
all the time, it stood outmore and it works here and it feels
like it actually meant something more whereif this is how every episode ended to
be, just like another one liner. But yeah, it's felt odd in

(26:18):
the Seinfeld universe to have such aBazinger moment, you know, kind of
yeah. I mean, I thinkLarry David and Jerry Seinfeld kind of very
much marched to their own rhythm.They're not necessarily yeah, we're just going
to make a sitcom. Like everyother sitcom. Ours is going to be
very representative of our sense of humor. So you're right when it does have

(26:41):
a close outliner this where it's sortof I don't know if you hear the
audience here going whoa mastivation joke onTV? But at the same time,
I mean, it is such agood example of that that, I mean,
I've wrote it when I was like, the minute they start talking to

(27:02):
my hand, I'm pretty sure someonesaid you're talking about hand boy, You're
definitely gonna need your hand after this, and I was like, okay,
well that's how we close out,and then you sort of reverse all the
engineer all the hand stuff from there. Yeah, this is sort of like
the planting the seed for the contestepisode. True, but it was test
out a masturbation gag and see howit goes, crowd to see how it's

(27:23):
wrong with it, see how itflies. Yeah, I thought the whole
whole moment was handed very well.But anyway, so the episode kicks off
with some stand up with Jerry discussingwomen in their perfume. Women put on
their perfume in an interesting way.I love watching them do that. You
ever notice that guys and they havethose their little key stratego and places they

(27:52):
think we're gone, and they hitthis one. Women had convinced that this
is the most action packed area thatcould ever happen in the dating world.
What is that, lady? Whatis happening here? Is that? Is
that in case you slap the guyor he still finds you intriguing Chanel,

(28:18):
I like the after shaved on thewrist right. For some reason, I
spray after shape. I don't knowwhy I do that. Apparently it's a
it's a like a the human pheromonedispenser. It's where, Yeah, that's
where a lot it's on your neck. I've always gone wrist. Yeah,
Joey makes fun of women for puttingit down, Like, but that's where

(28:41):
everyone does it? Is it noteveryone does that? I felt insecure after
do that. I was like,am I not supposed to be doing this?
Make sure not take note whenever youinterview Jerry, don't say you put
after shape on your wrist. Fuckhim. But it is funny how a
sitcom will kind of hand determined yourbehavior moving forward. Friends did it really

(29:03):
well because they did the thing where, um, do you check you?
If you're a man, you you'resupposed to check your finger and I was
by folding your fingers into your intoyour hand sort of not not quite a
fist, but you do it,put in your hand out yeah, yeah,
as opposed to being a woman andyou look at the back of it.
I remember being and like you.I remember being like year eight and
a girl asked me that she must'tjust watch the Friends episode or something,

(29:26):
and I did it and all thefans giggled and I was like, what
are they laughing at? And myfriends like it means it gay, and
I'm like complex forever, I know, I'm pretty sure that there's anything wrong
with that. But when I'm inyear eight, you know, in two
thousand and two it was a concern. Well, I'm pretty sure that every

(29:47):
every time since watching that episode ofFriends, and I've had to check my
finger. I was I'm like,make sure you do the claw even though
it means nothing, but you know, it sticks with you, doesn't it.
Or I'm not doing it when anyone'saround, I'll do it alone.
So no, no, no,what did Oh? Yeah that was that
is good? Yeah. But anyway, so George is he's very excited talking

(30:11):
about his new girlfriend, Noel.She's a professional pianist. She's a pianist,
a classical pianist. She plays thepiano. She's a brilliant woman.
I sat in the living room.She played the Waldstein, so the Waltstein.
We did a crossword puzzle together inbed. It was the most fun

(30:34):
I ever had in my entire life. Do you hear me in my life?
You know we're talking. I couldn'thear anything. Jerry is a very
dismissive friend, isn't he? Oh? Sorry, are we talking? I
wasn't listening, so you heard everyword? Just being a dick. Yeah,
it's not the one who plays thebongos. And as you were saying

(30:56):
earlier, he's just he's got George'sthat friend that but they got it.
It comes the point though, wherejust be nice occasionally. And Jenny does
be nice occasionally, but the friendwho's a punching bag, they have a
breaking point and you can usually tellwhen they're getting close to it, and
you don't back off. Now,we have talked about this on the show
in the past, whether it's onOn Talking Seinfeld or on four Finger Discount

(31:18):
or Going Down South Park or MovieGuys or the other shows you're here in
the four figure Discount of any ofthe many shows in which we talk about
all men are of interesting things.But yeah, how men kind of have
that way of displaying affection or acceptanceof someone by taking the piss which which

(31:41):
means for international listeners that means makingfun of, but like a in a
fun way. I'm not sure takingthe pisss has gone overseas yet. I
think it's not taking urine. OurBritish friends know, yes, I'm poking
fun at But at the same time, if you if it's a friend that
you've had for quite some time orno, I think you know even if

(32:06):
you're you realize there's so far youcan go, and you know, when
you've even taken to like you puta little pinky toe across that line.
Oh wait a minute, no,no, no, sorry, I shouldn't
have done that. Shouldn't have saidthat, mate, And then you spend
the next I don't know, fiveto ten minutes sort of like mate,
good luck good yeah, just yeabig upping them until you can start,

(32:29):
you know, poking them again.So George is he's very uncomfortable with the
new situation, new relationship because he'sgot no power. She has the upper
hand, and in hand is it'stough to get. So George he invites
Jerry and Elaine to to come watchher play at a recital and perhaps they
can get for dinner afterwards, soshe can kind of see him in his
natural habitat with his friends. AndI think that he has some form of

(32:52):
power in this relationship. And thisis where Kramer enters and says, smell
my arm. And I was like, oh, it's the beach episode,
which eventually gets stolen, but thisis, you know, the initial introduction.
That's actually what I like about theKramer character. And I've never realized
that when watching Sciper for the initiallywas that Kramer seems to have these stories
that go across various episodes where theother characters don't like it's it's George,

(33:14):
Elaine and Jerry are very much thestory happens in an episode and it comes
to an end, but you've gota Cramer. The previous one was The
Jacket, which went across several episodesacross seasons. Even so, like Cramer's
there he talks about the beach here. Eventually it gets stolen the idea.
But I watched this and went,this is similar to my theory of a
burning candle that smells like garlic andonions cooking. I want that in my

(33:36):
house. I've said there's thousand timeslike, oh yeah, I would be
in an instant millionaire if I couldcome up with a centered candle smelled like
yeah, suteting onions, Oh mygod, that's good candle. And yeah,
but his his idea about you know, um, yeah the beach.

(34:00):
Yeah that's great. That that's areally good idea. Yeah. I wonder
though, would it be a scentthat you would eventually like it's the initial
center's like, oh that's nice,that's alluing but would you want to that
your partners to smell like that allthe time. I think it'd be a
good way of attracting somebody, ButI don't think I would want Nicola to
smell like the beach all the time. Well, here's the thing. I

(34:21):
mean, first of all, we'rewith Nicola. Does she have like one
does he have like a signature scentthat she uses or does she have an
array of them for certain occasions?And likewise you do you have? I
have just whatever my mum bought fromChristmas the year before. Really, I
don't pay you really any contention.It's a Calvin Clients something probably actually is
called Galvan Clients something that's got that. It's got that really sophisticated app with

(34:44):
you know, some hot looking Frenchdude in black and white and it's like
Galvin Glean something something something something.I m used, what was it called
Links Africa? I don't really,but that was like the and if you're
in high school, if you wentto the change rooms after pe class,
was a lot of links going aroundthat at its just and they were combined

(35:07):
in the middle of the room andit's just it's all big, very smells
of sweat and links terrible anyway,But yeah, the beach a good concept
and I think, um, yeah, obviously it does pay off from the
end for somebody else. Yeah,but I think you'd use it every once
in a while. It would bevery much a summer kind of scent.
Uh And yeah, not every daybut and probably not when you're going down

(35:30):
the coast or anything like that.But say you were going to you know,
some nice looking like a barbecue andafternoon slash, you know, Barney
summer eve. It's like it onthe wrists, smell like sea. I
think I think my three favorite smellswould have to be guy can cooking freshly

(35:51):
cut grass reminds me of Saturday morningsDad cut in the grass just when he
had not a care in the world. And probably a wood fire. Yeah.
What about you? What are yourwhat are your three go to cents?
Well, definitely, yeah, sortethe other two for you? I
mean, I love when you're walkingdown the road and you can smell that
someone's got a wood fire and thenthe smoke's coming out. What about you?

(36:13):
What are your two? That isnice? Look? It sounds obvious
to say that I'm a fan ofsort of like beachy smells given though we're
just talking about the ocean here,But I am very partial to that.
You know, I wouldn't. Idon't really like going to the beach because
I'm very pale and I'm like Anakinskywalker, and I don't like sandy gets
everywhere. But I do love thesmell of it. You know, just

(36:34):
when you've pulled into the car park, you know you've got a little bit
of a walk to go to thebeach with, you sort of get out,
m that's fresh, and then youget out of the car and you're
like, tides out. What's mythird I like pine? Okay, like
a pine scent. Yeah, soyou'd be big on a real Christmas tree

(36:58):
then, yeah, true train Doyou ever have Christmas trees in your house
at Christmas time? Just a littleone? I have tiny one that's in
the cupboard and I sort of takethat out and got a few little lights
on it, and let's put thatup. Why don't you get a big
one? Did you get a bigone? I don't want it enough?
Your choice? Yeah, we wejust we just bought a new one.
We've had the same tree for liketwelve years. It was just it was

(37:19):
a pain. Every time you'd likewe'd pull it out, it's a little
bits of green ship would fall overthe floor. So we bought a newer
one. It is a little bitbigger, but it's got the pre lit
lights I built into it to savethat hasn't having to put lights on it
much better. Well, I knowyou like your Christmas, so yeah,
it makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, definitely getting back to the
episode though, that was a slightdetour there. But yeah, So Kramer,
he's got the beach. He talksabout the beach, and then he

(37:42):
says that he's joined the Polar BearClub. That smells good. What is
it the beach? The beach,yeah, to go swimming. It's one
on the Gizer. No, Ijust joined the Polar Bear Club. Did
you join the Polar Bear's people?They go swimming in the winter, they're
they're terrific. I just took myfirst swim today. It's invigorating. Yeah,

(38:02):
so shock therapy. But then Kramersays he's got pees dispenser and Jerry's
like, oh, Pez, it'skind of like one of those things where
you go, I remember those.I love those. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like someone pulling out like awat of footy cards from here. Yeah,
you're like, fuck, I lovethese things, And about five minutes
you're like, yeah, what elseyou go? But yeah, it's I

(38:24):
love it when someone that's bringing upa story and pulling something out of the
cupboard and just triggers a memory fromyour childhood that you're like, oh,
happy times. And it's just it'sjust that nostalgia kick. Besides maybe an
orgasm. Is there a better feelingand love? Is there a better feeling
than a nostalgia kick? Well?True? Yeah, something that takes you
back to watching for Apple for you, I believe he said something like in

(38:46):
your dressing game, watching the soundof music on a Saturday night or something.
You know, a real kick ofnostalgia. That's a great feeling at
your reckon. Yeah, a realuh you know Anton Ego the restaurant creek
having his first bite of rat havingbut rather to well, yeah, to
the point where it's so strong thatyou feel dizzy. But it's like whoa

(39:06):
that was? Like? That wasthat was something you know? I had
small version of out the other daybecause I was cleaning out the laundry and
realized, oh, there's a coupleof these boxes beyond the door. Here,
what's in there? And there wasa bunch of magazines from the two
thousands and I thought i'd thrown outYou wrote this on social media, yeah,
and I was like, oh,oh, I kept pretty much all

(39:30):
of them. Oh that's neat,and yeah, sort of put them into
part. It's like, okay,well, looks like someone's going down to
office work to get one of thosebig plastic containers. So you know these
going to be kept, you know, relatively staying and element no more wear
and tear on them. So butI was looking through them, a go,
oh yeah, I remember, ohgosh, I remember it, like

(39:51):
reading this one on the train whenI was, you know, going back
and forth to Melbourne for work andall that kind of stuff. Oh you
ever pulled them out again? Though? Do you think that's a good question?
Maybe like ten years from now,this is where I've got like,
this is where I need to drawa live for myself because I'm terrible wanting
to keep things like that. Yeah, and after they asked myself you forgot
you had them? Now that youknow you've got them, do you still

(40:13):
think you're ever going to pull themout again? There was a There was
a period though, where I waslike, oh, man, I shouldn't
have thrown those out. I mean, I thought I thought i'd dumped them.
I've got I've got a story foryou, continued, but yeah,
no, no, no, that'sthat's the end of the month. It's
like, I thought I'd thrown theseout and it turns out that I had
them. So so are you preparedto have your heart broken? But constantly.
My uncle once gave me the threegiant boxes right full of magazines,

(40:39):
and I kept them for years andyears and years. I sent in their
garage. She got to the pointwhere Nicholas like and it was Nicholas fault
sense. She's like, you neverread them, what's the point in having
them? Just get rid of them? Like, yeah, you're right,
I've never I just liked the ideaof having them. Right. It was
every Empire magazine from nineteen ninety seventhrough to two thousand and one, every
one of them. It's even likelyninety five was like six sears worth of

(41:00):
Empire magazines, everyone in like pristinecondition or condition, all in like slea
sleep Minael kept them in perfect condition. And I was like, oh wow,
I was backing down and go Ishould have kept him. But then
I think about him, like mostof the ship that was in those magazines
you probably just find online anyway,you know. But it's just I know,
back now, I think I oftenthink Guy would have really have liked
those Thanks man, But I don'tthink I knew you at that point,

(41:24):
but you would have been my firstpoint of gold have gone, I'll just
dumped him at your house. Iwould have had him for like three weeks
and then gone, these are takingits face. Hey, I just bought
it at the flea market. Hey, what goes on there exactly? You
don't know? No, I know, I know you think they have fleas

(41:45):
there, don't you? Yes,you do both. You've never been to
a flea market and you think theyhave fleas there? All right? I
think they have fleas there? Sothey didn't anyway? Does it? So
George doesn't really know what a fleamarket is. I thought, well,
they're gonna go to the flea market. They don't. But that is part

(42:06):
of Larry David's gene yes, Ithink, I mean, purely for that
line, I was like, youthink they've got fleas at the flea market?
Day. I don't like you startthinking, what the hell do they
call it a flea mark? I'mpretty sure I thought they called it a
flea market because you know, theysold fleas or some reason like that.
I end up looking it up.Apparently they call it a flea market because

(42:27):
it's yeah, it's got some Ithink in France they called it something and
it's the vague translation was something likeflea market. Okay, yeah, but
I did look up what pez standsfor pez dance for something? I think
in French as well. Hang,is it an acronym? Pe Z comes
from the German word of peppermint.That's what it is. Pehemin's so capital

(42:47):
p F lowercase feu, capital er m I n z. So the
capitals P e Z from that wordpeppermint pez. You go to kids,
The more you know, the moreyou know. Yeah, that's definitely,
that's that's the kind of thing thatyou you know, three years from now,
is you got to a trivia night, that's the kind of shit they'll
ask you, what does Pestanfine,everyone's going to think, oh, it

(43:10):
must stand for three different words.No, it's just purple month. It's
a geman peppermint. Yeah. Yeah, And you'll be the hero of the
night. I feel like, um, the Flea Market was a scin Feld
episode that would have worked for sure, those guys walking about a flea market.
Can you imagine the fun they couldhave goten up to? True?
But maybe too maybe too many sets, I mean, I think Seinfeld likes

(43:31):
to keep it relatively isolated. Maybea later probably the later season that was
always not always but they were verymuch being at about. But yeah,
I think the I think the freakwould have been would have been fun.
I think it would be a fungame to play with our listeners, throw
out of title each week and getour listeners to come up with a story

(43:52):
for each character based on that title, and that the best one that we
choose wins the prize. What doyou want? That's good if we want
to hand out price willy nilly,But I won't answer what the prize is.
But I'm in discussions with a sponsorfor the show I'm going to hand
out and and listens of our showwe'll appreciate it, and prizes will be
given out. So the first onewe're going to throw out there is the
flea Market. Let us know rightin talking Seinfeld at gmail dot com right

(44:15):
in now and let us know whichepisode, Which do you think or what
do you think each character would bedoing in that episode? George A Laying
Cramer, Jerry in the flea markets. The best answers, the best response,
we'll get a prize from our newersponsor, which would be announced on
the next episode of Talking Seinfeld.But Talking Seinfeld at gmail dot com,
write in and let us know yourthoughts on the flea market check out where

(44:37):
Dando wheeling and dealing. So they'renow waiting for Noel's recital to begin.
They're sitting now or sort of justprepared, talking about how do they prepare,
do they plan backstage? Do theycrack their knuckles? What do they
do? And George says, now, don't clap right away because when she
stopped, when she stops, she'snot finished. Very patronizing, isn't he?
Oh that was directed at me ata moment like that with someone's something

(45:00):
in a grip. But it's likeyou're looking at me when you see right,
you think going to be the onethat Yeah, even if they haven't
said it directly, I'm pretty I'mpretty sure I've had that word. It's
like Yeah, that's that's me.You're talking about it and nothing worse.
The recital begins, it's going welluntil Jerry puts the paste dispenser on her

(45:21):
lap. I'm gonna be honest,I'm not really sure why Elaine thought that
was so funny, But that's justlife in general. Sometimes things just tickle
you and you just cannot explain why. You just can't stop laughing about it.
It's just oh yeah, and sheyells out Joe Gibbs here, it's
like a form of football player orsomething I don't get. And I've looked
online and no one could work outwhy she says it when she's laughing,

(45:44):
I'm going to join that group becauseI've got no idea why she's no.
No. But but as I wassaying, no, it's just because I
watched for Nicola Nicholas, Like,why is she laughing so much of this?
I'm like, it's just one ofthose things where in life you just
sometimes things just make you laugh andno matter and for the next like five
minutes, you find everything hilarious.Well, it strikes me as a perfectly

(46:04):
natural human reaction to being in avery stuffy environment, you know, I
mean you're sitting in a room.You're listening to someone play piano, not
exactly sort of jaunty didn't didn't ingting, but pretty deep classical music she does
Actually I know what she does,actually play. She plays. It's Beethoven's
Wolstein Sonata. So apparently this wasthe same piece that was played in a

(46:28):
similar scene from George Cooker's Gaslight OhOkay, in which a person doesn't walk
out laughing, they walk out crying. Well, there you go. But
you know, you're in this situationwhere, yeah, you've basically got to
be a grown up. You know, it's like, Okay, we've got
our got our good clothes on,and we're gonna sit here very you know,
very seriously, and we're gonna payattention to this music and we're going

(46:51):
to revel in, you know,just how accomplished this person playing it is,
and to just do something so childishand not even yeah, not clever
at or not inventive, but justlike, check this out. It's a
little purchase. It's the most incongrusthing that could happen in the environment.
No, yeah, no, wonderyou're going to start laughing, and then
I think in your brain you realizethere's nothing funny about this, but it's

(47:15):
funny, and that makes it evenfunnier. It sort of it becomes of
a petual motion machine laughing. Yeah, yeah, that's I've certainly found that
in your life, in my life, and I'm sure sure you found in
your life as well, that you'lljust start laughing at something and you just
can't stop. The fuse has beenlit and you can't cut it off anywhere.
I get that sometimes when I'm watchinglike Classic Simpsons, like when we're

(47:37):
doing our classic reviews, and I'mjust like, I just have to pause
it sometimes, and it happened insideat his wife. Sometimes it comes moments
in episodes where go to pause andI'm just like, I can't concentrate right
now that it's just too funny,and I laugh and I cry for like
five minutes, and then I canpost myself. I get back to it,
and then I think afterward, I'mlike, the moment wasn't even that
funny. Why did I have thatresponse for you? Why why did you

(48:00):
respond to it that way? Whatwas so funny about that? I can't
really explain it. It's as individualas your fingerprints. I mean, I
remember seeing the movie Fantastic Mister foxyep ages and asy I was about ten
years old now. But and there'sjust a bit of where I think he's
played by Javis Cocker from Pulp andhe's singing a song, you know,
I'm about the three Farmers, aboutBogus Bunsen Been and one of them comes

(48:25):
in and said, what are yoursinging? Pete goes. I was just
making it up as I go alongand everything It's like, that's just bad.
So that's just weak songwriting. Youwrite a bad song, Pete and
flix a cigarette at him. Ilaugh for like five minutes straight. People
in the I was singing at apreview, and all the other review was
just looking at me like what thefuck is wrong with him? And why

(48:46):
is he laughing at that so much? Why is he still laughing at it?
He's really kind of disrupting the filmfor us. But I couldn't stop
until this day when it's on him, like, that's really funny. Did
that old guy did that old review? I have a go at? You
remember the guy had a go atthe kid for the phone. What was
his name there was probably Tom Ryanput your phone no way or something?

(49:08):
Didn't even something something like that.Yeah, good, good guy Tom Ryan.
I think he I think he realized, no guys enjoying this, let
him let him have it. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was
not laughing trying to disrupt, andyou just are just actually generally enjoying the
film. That's fine. Yeah.I've been enough previews and enough screens and
other stuff where there are certain peoplethey will just, oh, you're letting

(49:30):
us know that you're enjoying this,aren't you. Yeah. I mean it's
not a fake laugh. But it'slike you can tell, yeah, yeah,
you can stop that anytime, oryou can you can gradually. You
can usually tell. You can usuallytell when someone's really laughing, because I'll
spend the first ten twenty seconds orso trying not to laugh loud, and

(49:52):
you can hear that they're like it'skilling them inside, not laughing, like
they're not they're not just going haha Patton. I was like, they're
just like happy to get this out. You'll go a few you'll go like
ten twenty seconds, and then it'lljust reserves a little bubb You try to
think of something else and then youthink you immediately think of that again.

(50:12):
You're like, oh, guy,here it comes. I think I had
that. There was the last Terminatormovie, that dark fake one. Did
you remember that one? I neverwatched it. I know what you're talking
about. I never watched it.Was no why I don't think there's a
spoiler. It's not. It's notreally m Arnold the Terminator has essentially renounced
being a Terminator. He's still arobot with Arnold's skin on top. Arnold
skin on top, but he's livinglike a human life and he works as

(50:37):
like a curtains and drapes. Guy, I need to watch this now.
It just on the film, andthat should be the whole film. But
that's one bit where he's talking abouthe was selling selling drapes to someone and
they said they wanted to buy theseones. I said, don't do it.
That's great, and it just startedin the out of said I said,

(50:59):
don't do it. We need more, we need more of this Arnold
back I reckon very much so,but I was just, yeah, that
takes me back to like early tomid nineties Arnold. He's still he's still
an action start at the time,but it's when he started dabbling things like
twins and kindergarten copinging all the way. Arnot's a really funny guy. Well

(51:21):
yeah, I mean he knows howto play perfectly against the fact that he's
arned. But he did. Hedid that commercial a lot long ago for
like was it Tesla in the electriccar or something, and he was like,
Zeus, I don't remember that one, and Samahayak was was his wife,
okay, and they're like, I'mgetting im tired of living here on

(51:42):
Mount O Limbu's going to go downand live in Los Angeles, and you
know, he and Sama Hyak arelike, you know, driving around in
the Tesla and he's recharging everyone's electricship by using his Zeus lightning bolts.
It's on YouTube. It's actually prettyfunny. But yeah, he's got a
good sense of human It was justthat whole I said, don't do it,

(52:04):
just kill me. Anyway. Sorry, we're going off on so many
tangents on this on the pees disenthis episode is going to run so long.
Yeah, it's fine, but anyway, So Elaine goes outside and she
sees John Moniker. He approaches heroutside and she goes, I thought you're
broken up with Jerry Wise. Henow, no, no, we have
broken up and it immediately starts hittingon it and I'm like, dude,
not not the time, Like giveit, give us some breathing space first.

(52:28):
And we cut to the pez justsitting on the chair. That was
funny, Yes, yeah, yeah, and then John explains that Richie Apple
if their friend, he's messed upon drugs now and I and then suggests
interventional. A lot of people aredoing it now, like it was like
a I know, they started doinga lot the sixties of it was like
a fad. And you've explained thisin the past, where like late eighties
to the early nineties when it reallystarted picking up steam. Yeah, and

(52:50):
I know the two episodes basically adecade apart. But we just did a
Simpsons episode or four descaded on TheSimpsons that had an intervention in it.
It's weird. Everything just next isn'ton this show. It's so But John
says that Richie would only ever listenedto Jerry. You know, he really
respects Jerry. Cut to Jerry clappingthe pets. Yeah. Good performance by

(53:14):
this guy with his name Fred Waterwho plays John Mulliker. Fred Sanders a
nice blend of just enough creepiness.I mean, he really respects, Jerry,
I've just got in my notes.He's pretty much just a grown up
version of Ralph Wigham, almost likeseason four, Season five Ralph Wigham,
whereas like everybody says, he goesyou know, you know, when Ralph

(53:37):
says, I wouldn't have so manyknows but put my finger up there is
that kind of Ralph. Yeah,but yes, basically he's hitting on Elane.
He realized that Joey's not with heranymore, and Joey's just disrupted,
not disrupt him, but just beingtaken that he has taken the piss just
yeah, being very childish. Sonow we're backstage where we're waiting for no

(54:00):
While to come out of her room. George, she's having a go at
joe Lane. How could you dothat? I'm sorry, George, I'm
sorry. What did you put thepest dispenser on a leg for her in
the first place? I don't know. It was an impulse? What kind
of a sick impulse is there?How could I know she'd start to laugh?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Iam Can we just go in already?

(54:22):
What are we gonna tell her?I'll tell her I was the one
who laughs. No, don't saya word. If she thinks my friends
are jerks, then I'm a jerk. Oh, remind me to talk to
you about something later. What about? Hey, Hey, we're discussing something.
I know, but I'm distracted.Now what are you a fable?
All right? Tell her? WhenI was outside, I ran into John

(54:44):
Molica, really John Molicae, theguy that used to want Barten at the
comedy club. How's he doing?It's good? Could we cut to the
chase? Cut to the chase?Yeah, well, what are you?
Joe? Hollywood? A lot ofpeople say it. I would lose that.
What's that? Lose that? That'snot a Hollywood expression? Yes it

(55:07):
is anyway. So John told methat Richie is in town from Los Angeles
and he's really missed up on drugs. So I told him he should do
an intervention, really an intervention.You know your people. We got a
situation over here. Yeah, buthe wants you to be a part of
it. He says, Richie reallyrespects you and he would listen to you.

(55:30):
These things are really hard to load. And then entered Noel's room and
she's very embarrassed by what happened.What was she even laughing? At I
thought it's another sort of like sitcoming moment, but I thought it was
headed very well. What were theyeven laughing at pears? But he's offering
her a pears at the same time, I thought it was very good.
Jerry then rubs into a lane.You know, only a sick, twisted

(55:52):
mind could be so rude and ignorant, or maybe some mental defective puts something
stupid on her leg there just havinghaving you go to each Noel doesn't realize
it's a lane. At this point, Noel Dan says she will never forget
that laugh, and she says thatYou're like, well, I know where
this is going. Okay, wellwe gotta hear that again. Now.
I'm not sure or this would haveaired first obviously, yeah, because The
Nanny started ninety three, But itwas a very similar episode of The Nanny

(56:14):
where Alton John was the guest starand she says something or whatever, and
she's like, maybe it's performing whatever, but and like Fran find your dat
you who in her voice? Butthen and for the entire episode, he's
like, there was some annoying personand that voice just annoyed me. And
she realized it was her, andat the end, she yells out to
Alton and she says it and herealized that I was like, ah,
and then he just completely stole thatstory from this episode. Like that's literally

(56:37):
just did did you ever watch TheNanny? I almost loved Danny when I
was growing up. I watched myshare of episodes. Absolutely, you never
really see it anymore. It's notobviously syndications who watches free to air television
anymore. But yeah, he's ahonest streaming s's. That's not one of
those shows that gets talked about allthat often anymore. Every once in a
while, so I'm want to bringit up and like, oh, fran

(57:00):
Dresser, you know, Comic Powerhouseand Fashion Icon and all this kind of
stuff. I mean, I thinkthere's a lot of love out there for
The Nanny. Whether it's it's love, I think the Nanny enjoy I think
the Nanny just it's just got awholesomeness to it, hasn't it. I
think so? Yeah, and Ithink the two were kind of indistinguishable.
Yeah, it's I think people lovethe Nanny, but yeah, mostly they

(57:22):
love for end Dresser. You're right, Yeah, so the world doesn't feel
like going out he says, howdo you prepare for for the evening playing
recital? Just cracked my knuckles.I remember when I was younger, I
hated people cracking my knuckles that thesound of it usaid to send chills down
my spine. I would like scream, I blocked my ears. I want
to hear it. I want tohear it. I cracked my knuckles all
the time. Now I just Ijust do it. It's like once I
once I did it. I thinkonce I leant down and put my this

(57:44):
kind of motion, just like aclosed fist, and leant down and my
knuckles cracked. And I was like, oh, that's not so bad.
It feels quite good. And thephysio at um at four and I used
to work at Ford many moons ago. I remember him saying to me that
there's no issue with crack because everyoneknow says you don't crack your knuckle when
you get arthritis. But he toldme cracking your knuckles is good because it's

(58:04):
releasing all the built up gas orsomething that's built up in there. That's
what the sounds a unk. Yeah, who am I going with? Am
I going with the people that tellme that's going to give me up the
writis on my going with the professionalhere what it wants to go with the
go with the broke. I meanI used to do the thing where it
I don't know if you can seewhat I'm That's what I was just doing
before. Yeah, you're cracking likethat, Yeah, yeah, just sort
of you don't. Sometimes sometimes Iget a finger against Nikola because Nicola hates

(58:27):
it, hates it. Sometimes Iput my finger against it like this.
You can't see obviously, listeners,but I just rusted my finger against it
and just sort of move my handand it cracks it. She freaks out.
Yeah. By the way, yes, listeners, we are actually be
doing a whole lot of hand justshowing each other how we crack our knuckles.
Um, I was doing the thingwith it looks like air quotes.
Yeah. Yeah, you put onefinger on top of the other. Crack,

(58:47):
crack, Ye, enough about thecrack, Enough about the cracking.
I thought this next moment was veryrel edible, and we've all been in
this moment where she just goes II don't feel like it. We're just
back away now very slowly and justkeep my mouth shut. We've all been

(59:08):
that point where we think we're justhaving fun and we don't realize we're pushing
pushing any buttons like let's go out. I don't feel like going out.
Let's just got to go for adrink. I said, I didn't want
to. Okay, okay, maybeI'll call you later and talk. We're
now at Monks and Jerry thinks Kramerindirectly is involved in getting which he hooked

(59:30):
on the Jergs because he suggested dumpinggatorade on Marty Benson's head after they had
to come back win playing. Iwant to say softball the baseball one of
the two actually based on a realincident. Yeah, yeah, So do
you want to explain to the listenerswhat it was? How about you do
it? I was based on thedeath of Hall of Fame football coach George
Allen. Apparently in nineteen ninety hewas doused in gatorade with gatorade shower and

(59:54):
forty four days later he unfortunately passedaway. Coincidence or not. I wonder
if at the time doing this wasseen as too soon because it would have
been all over the news that happeningin America might have been a big deal
here in Australia, but that wouldhave been huge news in America, and
just two years later they're almost pokingfun at it on Seinfeld. Would that

(01:00:16):
have sort of raised a few eyebrows? Do you think? I don't think
so. I think I think enoughpeople are getting doused with gatorade and for
this one person that I was like, no, I think we can get
away with it. Yeah. SoMrdy Benson passed away from pneumonia. Now
he's dead. The comedians were happybecause he wasn't a very nice guy apparently,
but you know, Richie was neverthe same. What about Kramer?

(01:00:37):
Oh no, he's the same.When out Jerry's apartment and John wants to
have the intervention there, my friend, she's not very confrontational. I don't
want to. I wouldn't want tohave it at my house either, because
if they get angry, she startsgoing phone around the room. No way,
Oh yeah, no, I'm notdefinitely not having an intervention at my
place. Forget. I think it'sgonna it's gonna be like a place where

(01:00:58):
they feel safe. Though It's true, it's got to be a comfort zone
and take them out of the comfortzone. Yeah, yeah, Cramer wants
he wants in on the intervention thatI have this down exactly one of my
favorite moments. It's like, well, can I get in on that.
Also, I know a lot ofpeople think Cramer is a fashion icon.

(01:01:20):
I'm not. This is only oneof those people. I did like the
pink shirt he was wearing with likethe is it like a flamingo or some
kind of bird on it? Hedoesn't like. We'll say it just has
a quality, Michael Richards where youjust like, you're not necessarily a good
looking guy, but there's just somethingabout the animalistic drawer of you. Yes,
it's the vibe you put out.Oh, yes, that's definitely a
vibe. Yes see, sometimes vibeworks. Yeah yeah, I feel like

(01:01:45):
I feel like you'll be interfering whilewe're intervening. But anyway, so they
say Kramer can be a part ofit. George is on his way up
and Cramer that gives the idea forthe beach. Stop smelling your arm.
You know, I got a greatidea for along. It's called the beach.
You're sprayder and it's just like youcame home from the beach. M

(01:02:06):
a cologne that smells like the beach. I can't believe I am saying this,
but that's not a bad idea.Why don't you call Steve to Jeff.
He worked in the marketing department atCalvin Kline. In fact, he's
a good friend of John Marliker andRichie. Also, if this show was
made now, I guarantee you theywould have had the Beach in production selling

(01:02:30):
it in stores by the Christmas time, I imagine. So yes, I'm
really surprised they didn't. Maybe itwas just like a Jerry thing because he
was very hesitant to license anything Sinfeldrelated until even until recently. But apparently
it was a case of because theydid the Poco pops and things like that,
but they're released like twenty five atonce. Because I think it was
just a case of Sinfeld were like, you can make your pops and then

(01:02:52):
we're finished. It's not going tobe a long drawn out thing. But
you know, very very rarely wasSinfeld licensed in the nineties. He very
rarely saw Seinfold merchandise in stores anywhere. Not to the best of my recollection,
No, no, no no,but yeah, it seems like a
an opportunity to waste it there.I definitely, I definitely if I was
a Seinfeld fan would have purchased thebeach, even if it's just for the

(01:03:14):
novelty of it, you know,just to own it. But he says
to call Steve at Calvin Klein withthe idea he might like it, and
George's he's depressed. He's sad.He can sense that she's going to break
up with him, so he's like, no, no, I was talking
to on the phone. I evenhad a list prepared. Good reversing my
car post was more popular drink.I just love the good at reversing my
car. I'm terrible at parallel parking. But sometimes I'm in the car of

(01:03:37):
Nicola because Nikola King just nail andevery time right. Sometimes I'm in the
car and I can see there's apark. Then I'm like, if I
drive past that, I'm going tolook like a little man. I need
to I need to do this.So I get there, and then when
I managed to pour it off inside, I'm just like, you did that.
End the day. It's just theparallel park Oh yeah, But I

(01:03:57):
mean if you do it, it'slike one go. Yeah, you're just
feeling like such a big man.Yeah, yeah, you're not having to
go crunch hit the Okay, I'mgonna go back. Oh my angles are
all off. That was my fearwhen I first met Nikola. I'm like,
I don't want to. It's like, if I drive past it,
I seem like I chickened out.But if I tempt it and fuck it

(01:04:18):
up? What's worse a fucking upa parallel park or just going just going
no, I just can't do it. Owning up to it and finding an
angle park? What's I feel?And I went with it. I just
can't do it. I'm going withan angle park. When I first was
like, Daddy, Nicola, I'mlike, yeah, I'm like parallel parking.
I was angle park, and insideshe's probably thinking, just fucking go.
I would have went pussy. ButI think that was definitely better because

(01:04:39):
if you're if you're like a thirdor fourth date and the guy is driving
you around, can't parallel park andpeople are honking down because he keeps sucking
it up, that's going to leavea lasting impression. I think it is.
Yeah, I think I think hemade the right move just so well,
I've been married for ten years.I think so. But yeah,
there's nothing there's nothing wrong I thinkwith admitting your failures, you know what

(01:05:03):
I mean in the sense of justgoing I just can't do it, you
know, I just I just can't. Yeah, can you parallel park?
I'm fucking I'm shocking at it.No, I'm really good at it,
but I'm pretty sure I toppla.Yeah. I can't drive manual. I
don't know how. I'm the sametoo, And I was. I was
going for a job like six monthsago, and I basically had the job,

(01:05:25):
and then the guy was like,but you can drive manual. Yeah,
And I was like, oh,I can learn. He's like,
oh, you can't drive manual.And inside I'm like, oh, I
feel so small right now. Helooked at me, like, you little
man, how can you not drivemanual? You're pathetic. I just felt
so shit. I was like,yeah, I just I just I tried.

(01:05:45):
I tried to get my license doinga manual, and I was just
fucking it's too hard, man.Yeah. Look I tried a few times,
and I'm just like, this istoo many moving parts. You know,
I've got pieces, too many ofthem. I've got shit hand eye
coordination. I mean, I can'tplay the piano, you know. It's
like, okay, so that footgoes down by that one goes up and
then I move this hand to dothat thing. I'm like, no,

(01:06:08):
I'm just gonna put it in Dand point it in the direction I want
to go them. I just mytheory is, if it can be done
easier, why not do it easier? Like some people, I like to
have the control over the car.And I'm like, that's fine, that's
stupid. If I can, ifI can just put it in D and
just drive that way and point thecar, then why would I not do

(01:06:29):
that? Anyway? So she umshe suggested lunch. Noel, She's just
lunch. It's like being demoted,you know. You start off with lunch
and you wake you up the dinner. Go with the lunch. You being
demoted. He wants the hand andKer says to him, why don't you
break up with her? Yeah,the preemptive Breakup's like, that's brilliant.
It's a great idea. So wecut to the um. We cut to
the breakup with Noel at Monks.So, I'm afraid that I am gonna

(01:06:54):
have to break up with you.You're breaking up puss me. Yes,
i I'm breaking up with you.Wow, shocked, I really am never
expected this, did you? Ithought, everything's fine, let it learn

(01:07:18):
well, I don't understand you didn'tenjoy being with me, didn't we have
thundering the crossword puzzle? Kind ofvery confused? It didn't mean to hurt
your kid, I thought, notstop it? Please? What do you
want? I know I can makeyou happy when when you're playing the piano,

(01:07:44):
do you think about me? Idon't know. This is what I'm
talking about. Okay, I'll thinkabout you all the time all the time,
you know, okay, all thetime. I can't hear you all
the time. So I love thecognisants. Never expected this, did you?

(01:08:08):
It's quintessential George. How we canjust you live and learn? Yeah,
take what is potentially a good idea. I'm not sure how I feel
if this is a good idea ornot. But then a good comedy was
never made out of people acting rationally. Well, but this is the thing
that the whole a lot of thebeauty of science felt is people doing things

(01:08:28):
that would not work in real life. But the response they get is how
in your mind you hoped it wouldwork out, but it never does,
like an like that, like inreality, if you said this to a
girl. She would never say toyou, I know I can make you
happy, tell me what you wantme to do. That's not what happens,
but that's what we wanted to happen. Sci Felt gives us out our
fantasies. True, but that's alsoyeah, just taking that one step too

(01:08:49):
far, and it's like, oh, this could have ended well for you,
but instead you've just had to pushit. Just that one or two
or three steps too far. George, don't abuse your hand, is what
I've written down here When he says, um, I want you to think
about me while you're playing, right, I thought that this was going to

(01:09:11):
end because I couldn't quite remember howthis one ended. I thought this was
going to end with her playing terriblyand then Jerry and linger what happened up?
But I didn't laugh this time,and he'll just go she was thinking
of me and that would be thepunch line and then that's it. But
anyway, so cramming our shows,Steve cleve and climbed the smell and he
says the dumbest idea he's ever heard, objectionable fancive odor the road. It's

(01:09:33):
because he's still in the idea.He wants Crammed to think that he's not
going to use it, throwing himoff the scent you might say, clever.
So they're preparing for them for theintervention, and John's here talking about
his blood. Nos, I'm justgonna here. This is very rough,
Wigham. If I'm a Lane,I'm just like, I don't want to
be talking to this guy at allanyway. But we've got the guy who's

(01:09:56):
angry at Joe for having no icecubes. I'm like, this guy seems
like somewhat of a loose cannon.I must have been initially thought that was
Richie. Yeah, that's what Ithought as well. Yeah, but now
he's just some random guy who's angryat the world. And they get out
on Jerry for not having ask whathe's gonna drink. I can't trick this.
It's warm. I'm like, okay, don't you think of then,

(01:10:20):
But nobody, nobody wants to talkat the At the intervention, I think
Kramer walks in and takes the mickeyout of what was said earlier, and
he's like, is this the interference? Just not taking it seriously? In
the Polar Bear, But he's allarrived as well. Well, you don't
want to be a polar bear anymore, too cold, old boy. Then

(01:10:40):
we get the buzzer and everyone hidesit's not a surprise party. What are
you doing? Elane doesn't think it'sappropriate that John's hitting on her at this
point in time, when I completelyagree, and then it's George and Noel
and he says that, you knowit's gone to plans so much hand it's
coming out of my gloves. Themale kangaroo doesn't have a pouch, only

(01:11:02):
the female has it. So themale has pouch. Why should she have
this huge pouch? And I havenothing. I have things to carry to
a please at please give me apocket. I just thought this guy absolutely

(01:11:30):
nailed this moment. He was givinglike three or fall on the dialogue there
and I just thought he was justhit it out of the pod. Was
so good, just killed it everytime. Yeah, to the point where
Elaine has to laugh. Laugh,that's the laugh. That's it. You're
the one accident. If it wasn'tmy fault, it was Jerry. Jerry

(01:11:50):
put a pen dispencer on my Lahas dispencer on her land during my recital.
I didn't know she would laugh.And you you like to me,
George, you like to men?What would I do? Where are you
going? I am breaking up withyou? You could can't break up with

(01:12:16):
me. I've good hand and you'regonna need it. A very well written,
if not cliche ending to this story, but I really enjoyed it.
It's like something you would expect onthe end of Just shoot Me. Yep,
And that's not a bad thing.Just shoot Me as a perfectly you

(01:12:36):
would sitcom. Definitely is another sitcomthat doesn't get talked about less than any
even it's like, just just shootme. He's just never existed. You
never see you, never hear anyonetalking about it. I love Just Shoot
Me. And I don't know ifit's on any streaming service or you have
to go to one of the digitalchannels of the Freedomware Networks syndicate. I've
got season one and two. Ithink it is on DVD as a box

(01:12:58):
set and m yeah, I loveto Just Shoot Me. I thought it
was a great show. Yeah.You tend to think of Seinfeld as like
a cut above or its own thingas opposed I mean, it's a sitcom,
of course it is, but itwas generational. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, So it's odd, aswe always said that it sort of ends
on a bump kind of line.But you know a really really good example

(01:13:21):
of that. I mean, yeah, like I said, if you're in
the writer's room and someone's talking abouthand to go, well you're gonna need
your hand. Oh perfect, youknow, high fives. Richie then arrives,
he doesn't know what's going on.And the next day Jerry's just describing
how the intervention went down to George'sms, you can't do the crossway.
He can't do it. He's justtoo sad. Jerry explains that Richie was

(01:13:43):
hostile and he was talking about toeverybody, and then he spotted the Pez
di Spencer sides a full circle.Now the Pez the Spencer. This is
perfect Jerry delivery as well. Imean when you sort of talk about Seinfeld
voice, just the thing he's doinggreen and the rehab, he's hogged down
pears. Yeah, yes, such, its almost like he's doing stand up.
It is. And if you're doinga Jerry Seinfeld impersonation, that's not

(01:14:04):
a go to line, but that'svery much the rhythm of sound. So
but yeah, he says that whenhe's when he was a kid, his
father was driving the car and hewas trying to load a Pez Di spencer
and lost control crashed into a schoolcafeteria. No one was hurt, but
the pez was destroyed beyond recognition.And then yeah, two hours later after

(01:14:26):
the intervention, he checked himself toa clinic. He's doing well because,
as he said, he's looked dumb. Pearz And this is where we get
another it's a really written Seinfeld.This one like it felt like it felt
sitcommy and Sinfeld, despite the factthat it is a sitcom, doesn't usually
feel sitcommy. And that might justsound bizarre and stupid, but do you
know what I mean, It doesn'tfeel like your cliche sitcom banter. But

(01:14:48):
this did true. But Dan,we've been very fortunate on in the Forefinger,
just getting network to talk to variouspeople who run show. Yes,
Matt Salmon for instance, show runnow of the Simpsons, and yeah,
they talk about how or even ifyou just read about or hear about sitcoms
or TV shows in general, howYeah, an episode may have someone's name

(01:15:11):
on it, but often it's acollaborative effort. It's a result of a
collaborative effort. I mean I'm notsure if it was the case that Larry
David actually did write all this himself, or you know, you had a
few other people saying, well whatabout this one, about this one?
About this? This almost feels likean opportunity that we're the writers in the
writer's room sort of took it andran with it. Everybody out of their
two cents, almost like an auditionpiece for Hey, I'd like to go

(01:15:34):
and work for the Simpsons too,you know, or I'd like to write
or just shoot me in one ofit's other there are some very sitcomy lines.
I mean, as you said,the closing out with what's a three
letter word for candy? It's like, yeah, that's a that's a sitcom
closh, Yeah, I know whatyou're doing. There, we're close three

(01:15:55):
letters p's Yeah, there you go. Then we end up some stand up
talking about jaw Break because been theultimate challenge candy market as some sort of
experiment. I was always too scaredof I put that in my mouth would
go straight in my throat and killme. I always had this fear of
I think maybe it was seeing themovie Jawbreaker, the movie Jawbreaker with the
girls in the boot with a jawbreakerin the mouth. I think you choked
and died, correct, Yeah,yes, I never ate. When after

(01:16:16):
that that movie got to me,I was like, fuck, that could
actually happen. I don't know,but yeah, I was never a found
that. I just never got thefascination with jaw breakers. I had a
couple of friends that loved them,and I'm like, there's not that much
taste to them. They hurt yourteeth, teeth, there's a fear of
dying. I don't get it.None of these are winners, no,

(01:16:38):
not at all. Just give mesome none of these are selling points.
Give me some whiz fizz. Ifeel like you would have been a kid
that snorted whiz fizz. Is thatright? No? I never did that
at all? What even a hugewhiz fizz guy. Yeah, it's like
I get this. I get theyoung I like pop rocks, Okay,
yeah, I have that sensation onmy tongue, like the popping candy Santa

(01:17:02):
Alves. Like at Christmas time youalways get the popping candy Elves chocolate.
Do you ever eat that pup puppingcandy? Yeah, whiz fars just felt
like a It's hard to describe whizzardswould just feel like a bit of a
like a sizzle on your tongue.I liked whiz fis, but there's always
a point where you're like halfway throughthe bag where it was like caked on
the spoon and it was just itwasn't picking up as much anymore and your

(01:17:25):
fingers were getting all wet because yeah, I don't know, it's a good
analogy for cocus. Yeah, youknow. I just have a mate though,
who's it was hype. But he'sget the whist fist written the bag
and just like straight into the mouth. He wouldn't use a spoon, it
was just straight in. Oh mygod, did he look like he had
rabies? Yeah, it was itwas foaming at them out. Yeah,
but you'd behave that way anyway.Yeah, you get that sort of low
level sizzle if you have a bitof whizzards on the time, but pop

(01:17:47):
rocks if it was like yeah,yeah, it's like yeah, they've turned
up the heat. Great. Allright, Well that is our review of
the Pez Dispenser. I hope youguys enjoyed it. Thank you so much
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