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November 25, 2022 • 46 mins
The gang all take the subway and encounter unique situations; Jerry befriends a naked guy, Kramer overhears a tip for a horse race, Elaine gets stuck on a broken-down train on the way to a lesbian wedding and George is robbed by a beautiful woman. Support the show for EARLY AD-FREE ACCESS & EXCLUSIVE CONTENT by clicking HERE.
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(00:00):
You realize, of course you're naked, naked dressed. I don't see any
difference. You ought to sit here. There's a good rust about something against
the naked body. I got somethingagainst yours. I about a couple of
deep knee bets, maybe some squatthrust Who's got time for squat thrusts?

(00:21):
All right? How about skipping breakfasts. I'm guessing you're not a half grape
fruit and black coffee act. Ilike a breakfast, I understand. I
like a good breakfast as long asyou don't wind up trapped in a room
in bimboat brawls and pigtails being counseledby Dick Gregory. I'm not ashamed of
my body exactly. That's your problem. You should have been. Welcome to

(00:59):
Talking Soft, the podcast where wediscuss everything we know about the show about
nothing. This week, we arehere to review a classical episode of Scien
filed from season three. It isthe Subway. I'm down, I'm guy.
How are you, sir? I'mfeeling very good. I feel like
I took a nice twenty five minuteholiday in New York City. It really
just felt like it just felt likeyou experienced New York question. This episode

(01:21):
doesn't. It's it's just really great. Not a whole lot happens, but
it does. And that's why Ilove about these episodes where it's it's similar
to the vibe of the Chinese restaurant, things like that in the parking garage,
where it feels like it's all happeningin one moment. But I just
I just love the It gives youa real taste of New York, doesn't
it. It's a lot richer inatmosphere than it is in story. The

(01:44):
story, of course, stuff happens, but yeah, you're really just sort
of soaking it all up. Yeah, and the crazy thing, as wacky
as it all seems, you feellike you could see this happening on the
subway in New York if you ifyou went to the subway, one of
these things would likely happened. Atthe guy sitting next to you. I

(02:05):
just love that he wakes up,Okay, yeah, but yeah, I
just thought that's well saying not agreat lot. A lot of dialogue in
this episode, just sort of likea bunch of moments where you're just sort
of watching stuff going down. ButI don't think the dialogue was needed it
was just I felt so real.I don't know, as wacky as it
seemed, just felt real. Ireally, I really really enjoyed this.

(02:28):
Yeah, and look, there arecertainly episodes of Seinfeld where the dialogue is
front and center. You know,you've got memorable exchanges and one liners and
all that kind of business. There'sno I don't think there's that many in
this. Yeah, but you're right, it's a lot of physical comedy in
this one, not only from MichaelRichards, who was kind of the reigning

(02:49):
heavyweight champion of Seinfeld physical acting.But you know, everyone gets gets a
bit to do, even Jerry.I think when he's falling asleep on that
guy in the subway, you know, it's not classic physical comedy acting,
but it's like even Jerry's having agoal of this. It's good. A
fun episode. Yeah, I thinkJerry and Kramer's stories were my favorite.

(03:13):
I think A Lame was probably themost relatable. George had a funny,
a funny spin, but I thoughtthe ending was a little bit much where
he was walking in wearing the blanket. I was like, this feels very
this feels very sick, commy,feels very friends. But overall, I
really enjoyed it. Would you thinkof the fat shaming? It was a

(03:35):
bit of it. I was like, I'm not sure whether Jerry could say
this on television two and twenty twentytwo. Not really, No, I
mean it felt to me like Idon't know how much acting is going into
this, Jerry. Yeah, itfeels like you don't like fat people.
You seem very vehement against this gentlemanshape. Now, admittedly, you'd get
a bit of a surprise if youwere writing on the subway and looked up

(03:58):
and yeah, here's a heavy setsbehem, not even a behemoth, just
a big guy sitting across from mewith no closets. And on top of
that, Harry dude, I mean, it's a always a wonderful combo Big
and Harry. Take it from someonewho knows guys. But you're right,

(04:18):
I mean certainly. Yeah, threedecades or so down the line, you'd
be listening to Jerry sort of tearingstrips off this game. Yeah it's not
cool, man. I mean,to our naked pal's credit, he sort
of takes it with you know,he's not really that affected Bison. No,
it is what it is. That'swhat I liked about the fact that

(04:40):
he was just like, no,you can say what you want my ain.
Give a shit, I'm happy.You're the one who's judging. You're
the one who's not happy. Clearly, I'm fine with who I am.
That's a very good point. Andyeah, it's it's hard to imagine that
they didn't have that in mind whenthey were writing it. I mean,
yeah, Jerry coming off it's kindof like a jerk and this guy being
very quite quite at ease with it. It's funny. It's almost like the

(05:04):
second or there are two separate incidentsinvolving bigger people in this episode. I
mean when Frame is trying to finda seat and he ends up sort of
squished next to that big guy whojust has this very serene, like Buddha
like expression on their face when they'relike, you know, they're probably used
to They're probably used to some dipshittrying to go this big taking up dings

(05:26):
like I'm here, I'm taking upspace. Get used to it. The
funniest thing was there was the extresscouldn't contain their laughter. Did you see
him on the background to start crackingup laughing. We did see one of
some smirks on some faces. Absolutelywith Jerry and the fat guy, though,
what I liked about that was itwas almost like a tale of never
judged book by its cover, becausethat first Jerry's just being absolutely pricked to
him, not fat shaming him,saying, you know, you should be

(05:46):
embarrassed you're naked on the subway blahblah blah. Then they become best mates.
Well, I mean it's funny thatit's the fat shaming that we're sort
of noticing and that you know,comes to the forefront. I mean,
the thing about Jerry's saying looking atsomething, he's the naked body I got
sun against yours. You know,that's that's your problem. You should be

(06:08):
a shape or that's he's going forthem. One of the things like why
is this guy taking off his clotheson a subway track. It's kind of
strange. It's a little strange,and again maybe that's the point, but
um, yeah, I think it'sfunny that, you know, Jerry's just
you know, going with the fatgags. One's been like, why's take
your clothes off? What's going onhere? It's going on in your life?

(06:30):
So as naked man been in anythingelse? He's played by a man
called Ernie Sabella Lame ring a bellto you. Um. He's been on
a few sitcoms. He's one ofthese guys who's just fundy. He is
known for his role as Pumba inthe liking franchise Good Worked. He's the
voice of Pumba, Get the fuckout, no way and hang on,
hang on, hang on, hangon, hang on, voice of Pumba.

(06:53):
You can't be in four Let's havea look. Well, I'll be
fucked. He is. He isthe voice of Pumba. There you go.
Yeah, that is crazy. That'scrazy, right, It's a little
crazy. I was just like,who is this guy? This fact?
You know what's he known for beingthe fat guy on the Subway of the
voice of Pumba. I mean toa generate, my generation, that's a
big deal. He's a voice offucking Pumba. He's also on Perfect Strangers

(07:16):
with cousin Belkie. Was he ak And also apparently he played Leon Carosi
in Saved by the Bell. Yeah, who's had a career. Yeah.
Known for his role in the BroadwayTheater of Guys and Dolls, Curtains and
Man of La Mancha. Okay,so yeah, and a working New York
actor who you know, every oncein a while it's like audition for this

(07:41):
Disney movie. You know, Yeah, my turn into something and it turns
in the Lion King. That's awesome. I'm happy for this dude now.
That makes me happy. But yeah, so yeah. And also Barbara Stock.
I thought she did a great jobas the scam woman. Also very
good. Yeah, it's She's whatI was thinking about as well. When
I was thinking about, you know, just actors who you know that are
never stars, but they sort ofwork consistently. I looked up Barbara Stock,

(08:03):
you know, after this episode.She's really good. And you know,
she was on Dighties TV. Yeah, she was on Dallas. She
was on Spencer for Hire, whichI used to watch as a kid,
thinking, oh growing up, youknow, Private Detective Adventures, Fantastic Fantasy
Island. She was on Remington Steel, the at on My Riding. Yeah,
a real just collection of all youreighties favorites, you know, just

(08:26):
popping up. And you know it'slike Rick Dalton from Once upon a Time
in a Hole. It was like, yeah, well I got an FBI
and next week I'm on I'm Answerand Cell it's like, and you know
she I think she quit acting inthe early two thousands and opened her own
interior design business. According to herfriends at Wikipedia, who would not lie
to us, Barbara stock Interiors isstill open as of twenty twenty. Hopefully

(08:52):
she made it through the pandemic.Yes, hopefully so. Yeah, well,
but she did a good job inthis episode. I mean, of
course you would, you would getoff the train. Yes, he certainly
would you off the train. Yeah. I cannot blame George for what he
did here. What I'd love aboutthis Actually, let's get into my favorite
moment. Let's get to my favoritebecause I was going to get into it.
That is all right. So oneof my favorite moments from this episode

(09:13):
was George's inability to not tell abullshit life story. Like once he starts
going, he just keeps going,Like talking about his dad being in the
stock market. It's like you couldjust say, oh, dad was in
the stocks, but he just keepsgoing and going and adding and adding and
adding and adding and adding on.Like it's just the epitome of George.
Once he starts, once the ballstarts wrong, he can't stop. It's
so great. I'm not an authorityon Death of a Salesman the play there

(09:35):
they talk about a bit in thisand you know Jerry referring to him as
Biff, which is, you know, a bit of a bit of a
rag. Also, I mentioned inour recent episode of Google Guy Pan on
The Simpsons there we go correct.But yeah, it's almost like George is
using the story of Biff and hisfather Willie Lohman, who was the salesman

(09:56):
and Death of a Salesman, andit's like, oh, yeah, just
got to him. Oh they crushedhim metaphorically and all this kind of stuff,
and oh, I think you're borrowingfrom Death of a Salesman, you
know, to fill in your ownsort of blanks here, George. It's
nice work on the part of thisepisode of Seinfeld. Yeah, it's just
very very great. I also reallyenjoyed, in particular just the acting physical

(10:16):
acting of Michael Richard Tween Kramer iswatching the race, just the hitting the
paper from the table, like justfuck. That gets used all the time
with his Melbourne Cup day for peoplesports betting all always just take that clip
and show you know, every punchright now kind of thing. But I
just thought that moment there the arrayof emotions. He goes through watching this
race from like the epitome of happinessand sadness and then it's happiness again,

(10:41):
and it's just I just think it'sso great. Have you ever taken a
punch on something A race, afootball game? If you? Yeah,
I better on a few races backin the day, and the elation of
winning is something else. Oh yeah, but I mean gather responsibly natural.

(11:01):
I don't gamble anymore. I'm lastmy gamblet. I think it was the
two thousand and eleven Gelong Premiership game. I think it was the last actually
put money on a game. ButI um, yeah, I just particularly
just loved that clip. I justthe way he slapped that fucking paper on
the table. It was just likeit just starts like he's just hitting it,
but then he Yeah, it sortof evolves into him actually being the
jockey. It's like what happens whenyou're like you're bowling or something. You

(11:24):
sort of like move your bodies ifyou're like moving the ball of playing pinball
or something whatever. Like we're playinga video, you should playing a racing
game. You turn the control orlike you're steering it. Yeah, you'd
get captivated. I just really likedit. Would you enjoy Oh yeah,
we talked about it before, Butthe evolution of that relationship between Jerry and
the naked man on the subway,it starts off a bit not antagonistic,

(11:46):
well antagonistic on Jerry's part certainly,but yeah, by the end and it's
like, all right, get off, we're going to go to Coney Island
together, you know, get ahot dog and you ride the cyclone.
And I love that when he goes, you know, we're ride the cyclone
and get a hot dog. Nathan'sI'm like, it just sounds like a
fun day out, doesn't it.It does, doesn't it? So I
very much enjoyed that, And Ithink my favorite part of the episode was

(12:09):
actually Elaine's desperation when she's yeah,first of all, the train has stalled
or it stopped or whatever, youknow, she's getting. I think a
lot of people have been in thatsituation where you know, oh, you're
in a long queue, or you'rein a tight space and just or you're
a traffic jam or something. It'slike, why the man, why is
this happening? Yeah, when whenit's traffic, it's like everyone else's faults.

(12:33):
I mean you're part of the problem. You're also in the traffic.
Yeah, but you can't help projectinglike three kilometers down the roads like some
what are you doing? Yeah,some digger didn't take care of their car.
Don't let that person in? Whatare you doing? That's a lot
of that. Why are you lettingthe mad? Yeah? So it'd be

(12:54):
nice the time for nice fuck courtesy. Having said that, I mean,
are you are you someone who willlet someone like emerge? We let it,
We let one person in and thennot another if it's absolute chaos,
right, and if I haven't hadto wait for too long, I'll always
let someone in because it just makessense to keep the traffic flowing. Right.

(13:15):
Yeah, but it's only one person. You know, there's like maybe
four or five cars banged ub islike, I'm letting one of you win
one? Yeah, the person behindme, they can let one in.
And once that car starts making theirway and you start cripping forward, is
they say, motherfucker behind that car. Don't you think you're getting at either?
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, theyget in and you're right on their
day, was it? Yeah?You're going nowhere? Buddy? Yeah?

(13:37):
So I think I think our lovelylady JLD really expressed that desperation. Well,
you know, just think about peoplein concentration camp, think about being
a hostage, you know, andjust getting more and more and more and
more, just infuriating. I lovethat. I thought it was really funny.
It was very good. Could youspell that? Please? No?
Next question? All right, itis time for some trivia, some sign

(14:01):
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Cramer owes how much in parking ticketsor how much in traffic tickets? Six
hundred over six hundred bucks over sixhundred bucks? All right? My first
question is which ticket is Cramer goingto fight? I'm going to fight that

(15:52):
one. He says, no doors, no doors, and it's guy.
According to George on the stock pages, IBM is what, oh, a
lot? I don't know, veryvague. IBM is up a quarter?
A quarter? Okay, I knownothing about stocks. I know absolutely nothing,

(16:12):
nor do I I'm starting to thinkI should learn a little. Apparently.
What you do is you just throwa couple of bucks at an index
fund, which is um sort of. It spreads your money across a variety
of stocks. So would you saya couple of mini couple of thousand,
right, well, maybe a coupleof hundred to begin, yes, or

(16:33):
even fifty. My next question is, Kramer, here's about a horse winning
and what were the odds? Oh? I am saying, oh, thirty
to one, Well done, verygood. By the way. While we're
on that, who is the whatis the name of the ups guy with
the horse tips. Oh, goodquestion. I have no idea. What

(16:53):
was it? There's Lance Lance.It seems a kind of guy that'll be
hanging out at the tab Lance.My next question is the woman is staying
where? It's the Hotel Edison?Correct? Hotel Edison? All right,
I have one last question for youhit me. George's suit cost how much?

(17:14):
And where did he get it?I don't know where he got it
from, but was it worth fourhundred three? Was worth three hundred fifty
bucks? Three fifty? Damn itin between? And he got it at
mol Ginsburg. There you go.My finally question is what's the name of
the horse that he puts the moneyon? Oh? Is it pepper Jack?
Pepper Nick paper Nick? Yes?All right, that is trivia for

(17:36):
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(18:45):
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Subway was January eighth, nineteen ninetytwo, so this was the first episode
of sinfol to ever air in nineteenninety two. It was written by Larry
Charles and directed by Tom charonans Is. The episode kicks off with some stand

(19:10):
up discussing bumper cars. When Iwas a kid that my favorite ride was
the bumper car ride. Remember thatride go around in a circle. There
was always one kid on the bumpercars that could not do it. You
remember this kid. As soon asthe ride gets started, he'd be like
stuck in a pack of empty cars. Just excuse me, excuse me,

(19:33):
it won't go Come on, it'salmost over. He always ends up with
the attendant hanging off that big polehelping him steer it. You know,
stop cryingside that other one, otherreally bad car, the helpless father and

(19:53):
son team. There's another car justnot going anywhere. They're never organized.
Who's on the wheel? Who waspressing out of the gas? Just oh
so during the way, I guessthe tieing here is the fact that go
to Coney Island. But I didlike the stand up here because it's so
true, like it's actually on point. There's always that one kid that doesn't
know how to do it, andthe guy it's like helping me, and

(20:14):
the way like does the he's hangingon to the side and steering the wheel.
The other hand, it happens everytime. I was that white kid
doesn't figure it out, and thenthere's the helpless father and his son.
They're never organized. I don't knowwho's putting the pedal down. I just
thought this was great. When doyou think you grow out of bumpers and
dodging cars when you're old enough togo on the Ali Barber? I think
you usually run twelve or thirteen,aren't you when you're I would say probably

(20:38):
like eight to ten. I feellike, oh, what a late bloomer
I was. I don't know.It just feels like, well, it
gets to a point now where yourparents are like, all right, we
have this much money to spend onrides, and you go, I do
like the Dodgings, but I wantto have money for like the Zipper,
you know. Yeah, he startedto feel a bit more brave, and
you're like, I think I'm goingto go on the mad Man. I'm

(21:00):
gonna take on the chartchar But becausethe Long Show was unrecently and we didn't
go because we're unwell on the weatherwas ship anyway, but we didn't take
Elliott next year. But look atthese rides and I'm like, I never
okay, with my son going onthese rides, they'll put up like yesterday
by these fucking hillbillies, Like arethey safe? I think you can trust
a Carney, can you someone like? Didn't a child like die like just

(21:26):
a couple of years ago at theAdelaide show or something? Oh maybe?
I mean there was a story recentlyabout the woman who my phone fell under
the fault? That was her fault? Do you not say the roller coaster
thing coming? Wasn't there a right? Yeah? Operating? She's like,
I'm just going to climb this fancyand go into the ride whilst operating.
Is that right? Get my phone? New? No, don't do that.

(21:49):
Phone's long gone. Apparently she gotall messed up. I'm sorry,
that's probably ok. Yeah, it'sprobably my cool frist to piece. No,
but that's that's not the Carni's faults. As I was putting down Carney's
yes, and I'm pro Carney.This is a I've got a career waiting
for me as a Carney. Ifsomeone said to you gap year as a

(22:12):
Carney, would you do it?Absolutely? I would? If it paid,
all right, you do it,even if it didn't play that well.
Could be fantastic. You're traveling aroundregional Australia. Yeah, you're probably
doing hard work, but you knowyou crack a v B at the end
of the night. Yeah, goodstuff, but good stuff. But the

(22:34):
thing is, the contract says righteighty Grahm for the year plus ten birdy
Beetles show backs. Right, You'vegot to get a Birdie Beetles show back
as part of your contract. BirdieBeetles are a wonderful, wonderful, ally
wonderful piece of chocolate confectionery. Theystill make it. Yeah it is Cabris,
is it? Is it Cadbury?Well, I know they got bought

(22:55):
out, didn't They makers a BirdieBeetle. If you're listening to this episode
of Talking I'm filmed on the fourFinger discand Network. Look, we're open
to you know, receiving some boodybeetles, eating them live on the on
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(23:18):
honeycomb that has shaped like a beetle. I hadn't okay, I thought they
met the little bits of shat likebeetles. I go say, I had
no idea. Now they actually chocolateshp like a beetle. It was originally
created as a way to use upthe honeycomb that was left over from the
production to violet crumble bars. There'sa fun fact. That is a fun
fact. Originally manufactured in Australia.Today there I'm manufactured in a factory in

(23:40):
New Zealand. For many years,bedy beats were generally only availble to the
public in showbags and sold at theAustralian shows. That's that's how I remember
it being. You could only getthem in showbags at the show or at
KFC kids meals. Yeah, it'swhy you went to the shows. Really
where it really was for the betybeetles showbag. I wonder if you can
buy them just by themselves now I'massuming you could. I imagine if you

(24:03):
got on the internet you could findsomeone who could send you some birdie beatles.
Yeah, I look up with abirdie want a birdie? I would
look I want to be hooked upwith a birdie beatle. Let's say you're
listening, give us some Birdie beatlesNestle, come on, do right to
make it happen, Make it happen. Right, Enough talking about the shows,
let's get into the episode. Sohte monks, their gangs all there
and they're discussing how to get toConey Island on the subway. Kramer's explanation

(24:26):
is far too difficult. I wasgoing to start writing some of this ship
down because I figured, oh damn, it's going to ask a question about
something I'm not that cruel, Like, no, that's too much information,
and I've got to I'm gonna haveto keep hitting the go back tinseck and
go back tinseck and yeah. Elaine'slike, isn't the d just go straight
to Coney Island? Well, yeah, let's take that one. But then

(24:48):
George says he's got a job.Interviews the second Interviews at nine forty five,
and Jerry tells him to not whistlein the elevator. Well, don't
whistle in the elevators. The actualquote comparing him to Biff from Death of
a Salesman, What Times the LesbianWedding wedding they worked to brighton Groom on
that why do they flip a coin? Yeah? Clip a coin? What

(25:11):
was that? Not politically correct?It's a legitimate question. Full of super
training. I always get the feelingwhen lesbians are looking at me, they're
thinking, that's why I'm not aheadof resection. Jerry, come on,
let's go pick up the checks sowe can go. Oh, I'm paying
for breakfast? Yeah yeah, yeah? Why do I always pay? What

(25:33):
am I made of money? You'rea bunch of deadbeats. I'm kind of
siding with Jerry here. This isassuming that Jerry's gonna pay for their meals.
I'm like, oh, I knowwhat's set up for the gag at
the end, but still it's justwalking out and expecting one other dude to
pay for everything, and it's abit cheap. Deadbeats. So we're now
on the subway and Cramer's got abunch of ticket offenses. I mean,

(25:53):
of course Kramen does. You've alwaysan't that one mate that's just always getting
tickets for something, never pays them, always got an excuse why he's got
them, always trying to get outof them. George and the violinist walks
by that the blind guy, Georgealways the excuse, I can't carry a
change. It just it falls outof my pocket. And the Lane ends

(26:14):
up giving him money. He's notblind, Why are you giving him money?
And the guy sort of turns andlooks at George, and then Jerry
asked, you know, so,who's going to come to Coney Island with
me? And I like a littlebit of a sort of a throwback here
to the car, like corn backhere to the stolen car. Yeah,
you got her? What happened?He got simon eyes on the front,
wheels got aligned. Yeah, hesaid, yeah, let's go John George

(26:38):
ride the cyclone hot dog at Nathan's. But George Carson's coine, what are
you doing to me? Man,it's my second job. I'm going to
get this place. I'm going toget this job. It was not the
last episode that he's like every It'slike every episode either someone's got a new
job or a new girlfriend. Yeah, it's it's like it's like the opposite
of the Simpsons. You can't maintainthe status quo. E. Lane is

(26:59):
going to be the best man atthe wedding, so she can't miss that,
and Kramer's got to go to courtto base tickets, so no one
can go with Jerry, So Joesays, I can't go on rides alone.
He's all sad about it. Theyall get off the subway and they
all go their separate ways. Ilove I love the lands. Just you
know, see it? No one, no one's saying it, by the
way, Yeah no, no,everyone just walks off. Yet then we
get Jerry. He's just sitting onthe subway, just awkwardly staring at naked

(27:22):
man who isn't quite naked just yet. No, so something I'm very curious
about, just that turning point orthat that decision that he means something.
Time to get nude. Yeah,try to get nude. George then sits
near the near a very pretty woman. He's sort of the making eyes and
he Kramer tries to push his wayinto a seat and ends up squeezing next

(27:45):
to a fat guy. And aswe said, the extras just couldn't contain
their laughter. It's just I knowsomething, Michael Richards just it just goes
to extra mile, doesn't he?Oh God, Yeah, really sort of
throws himself into any physical opportunity thatcomes his way. Then we get back
to Jerry and he's falling the guya sleip on the guy's shoulder, and
he moves and knocks his head.There was no dialogue for like two minutes

(28:07):
in this episode. It was justthem just sort of like engaging their surroundings.
Yeah, so Jerry's still falling asleepon this guy's shoulder. The woman
then rubbed her leg up against near. George and I sort of like chuckled
at each other. So there's asparks are starting to fly there. But
she's just leading him along. Hedoesn't realize yet. He used to,
I mean, let's put ourselves inGeorge's situation. If this happened when we
were single, ready to mingle,we wouldn't immediately think she's hustling. Us

(28:32):
would be Oh no, no,I mean I think enough people have a
high enough opinion of themselves and they'rea lure to someone else. Of course,
I'm going to be picked up onthe train. Why not? Why
wouldn't I It's life in the bigcity. Are you looking for a job?

(28:52):
Why, well, you're reading withclassifids. Oh no, no,
no, no, I was justlooking for the snack page here. It
is looking for the quotes. Gottacheck the quotes. Love a good quote.
Ibm up a quarter. You didn'tlook like someone who needed a job.

(29:14):
Me. No, I don't bedoing very well, very well.
Yeah, so you're in the market. Oh yeah, I'm in the market.
Winch Market, Winch Market, thebig the big market, the big
boy book market, Bam market.Do you name the market. I'm bad

(29:38):
said you worked for one of thebig brokerage houses. They wish. I
hate the big brokerage houses. Hithim with a passion. I think broke
rich houses killed my father. Well, they hurt him bad, really hurt
his feelings. It's a long story. I don't like to talk about it,
but I swore there and then thatI would never work for a big

(30:00):
broke mch house. You see,all they care about is money. I'm
about more than money. I amabout people. So I've always gone my
own way and I've never looked back. Let me get a lane. And
she starts chatting to this woman who'sbeen riding the subway since the forties.
In those days, man would getup a seat for a woman. But

(30:22):
now that we're liberated, we've gotto stand up. And then Elaine says
she's going to a lesbian wedding,and all of a sudden, it's just
like, ah, now, Iknow that seems like a very oh God,
would anyone be doing that these days? They're probably they Actually, no,
they definitely are people like that outthere. Who we go, what
a woman's bearing? A woman what? I'm not sure so much now.

(30:45):
Definitely in nineteen ninety two, Ohyeah, but I'm sure there are still
people like that out there. Theydid quite understand it as normal or just
disapproved. Yeah, I don't talkto us soul for thirty five years and
now get the best man out ofless been wedding of it then, Elaine,
I hate man, but I'm notlesbian. It's still still in that
period where being considered gay was likea negative yeah, or at least unusual

(31:12):
enough to be like, oh okay, okay, well yeah, I think
you've gone gone past the disapproval stageto more like, oh okay, homosexual.
So rare to see one in thewild exactly right at a time.
We just reviewed an episode of Friendson our the One about Friends podcast,
and there's a gay guy on there, and he refers to himself as speaking

(31:36):
for our people, like as ifit was like a different form of life.
Yeah, a different breed of human, but also also that's that wonderful
Rye Gay sense of humor where it'slike, yes, we're that different that
I have to get that I'm speakinga foreign language. Cramer then fights over
the newspaper. I love here thatobviously there's no way they could have planned

(31:59):
the rip of the newspaper like thatjust happened. But then for Michael Richards
to then have the genies to pretendto read that little piece of ripped paper
that he ripped off the paper Ithought was just great because it's just like
it rips as he's pulling it away, and he immediately goes, I'm gonna
start reading this like there's no inmy OPI I felt there's no way I
could have planned that. It justseems so organic and real, which I
thought was great. Jerry is stillasleep. The guy's rolling his eyes,

(32:21):
and naked man's rolling his eyes athim. I'm really looking forward to this.
I love weddings. Maybe I'll meetsomebody. Maybe not. Oh man,
we're starting. This is where thetrain stops of George and the woman.
He's like, where are you going? Where I get off? And

(32:42):
if George's like, well, whatdo you mean George is just not having
it at all, as he's like, all right, when we gonna do
second, second job interview or takea chance of this lady. I mean,
you're gonna be taking a chance ofa lady, right, any man
will do that in George's situation,I have written down here George, don't
do it. Don't do it,Joe take back to when. Yeah,
I mean, obviously George's a bitolder. He remember, he's supposed to

(33:04):
be in his early thirties. Ithink at this point he's desperates, he's
lonely. This woman's going to eventuallyfind it that he's not working, but
he might as well, Yeah,ride this train as best he can.
Yeah, yeah, No, itdoesn't make sense, but it makes sense
if you know what I mean.Did you think there was a little hidden
sexual innu window there which she goes, this is where I get off?

(33:27):
Oh yeah, very much. Georgegets stuck in the doors, he's trying
to get off. Then we getCramer over here in the inside. Tips
on the horses, Yes, there'sa four horse. In the first phrase,
I don't know he's going to winmy ups go mauts. The guys
are on the horse are as regularcustoms. Every horse has ever given me
a one. Yeah, you seehim been sandbag. I'm looking for a

(33:50):
good spot and he's been getting inlate because there using a bud boy,
and I'm gonna workouts have been unpublishednow to run with him. He's gonna
break his meat. He's gonna gofor a great place. Maybe thirty to
one. I'm telling you it's aluck but a rain last night exactly.
This most loves the slip. Hisfather was a mode, his mother was
a money his mother, Come onoffice, I want to call my book.

(34:15):
Don't tell on him. But Jerrywakes up and he sees the naked
guy on a train, just asyou're saying the response when he first sees
the naked guy, okay, okay. Then we get naked dressed, I
let's see a difference, and Joeyjust completely fat chasing. See that's your
problem, you should be. Itjust felt very much like Jerry sife.

(34:38):
I was speaking from the heart,didn't it. It didn't feel like there
was much acting involved. It didn'tat all. No. I feel like
Jerry would have had this conversation withsomebody at some point in his life.
Then we get a lane, tryingto panic because the train has stopped.
Why couldn't I take a cab forsix dollars? My whole life could have
changed. What is that on myleg? I'll never get out of here?

(35:05):
What if I'm here for the restof my life? Maybe I'll get
out in five seconds? One,two, five? Banana? No,
I'm still here. I'm still here. When will they start moving? It's

(35:30):
moving, It's I'm just like thisinner traffic jam. I just freak out.
Why are you going? What ishappening here? What the fuck?
What would go? Go? Fuckinggo? Like you know, you hate

(35:52):
it when like, yeah, yourtwo or three cars deep at a red
light, it goes green and liketwo seconds goes by and they haven't started
going yet. You freaked the fuckout, particularly with like an arrow or
something. It's like now time islimited here. Yeah, how long do
you give yourself or the Carrfoni beforeyou haunt the horn after the light has

(36:14):
changed, probably between probably between sixand eight seconds, six and eight,
I give him three, like oneMississippi, two, Mississippi, three,
Mississippi Have you ever started going offthe three Mississippi? Fucking you're getting the
horn, especially at an arrow,as you were saying. But then George
and this lovely woman they arrive atthe hotel. Room at the hotel.

(36:36):
Is the hotel? Edison? Isthat right? Edison correct? As she
tells him to make himself feel comfortable, but it doesn't know what does that
mean? Should I take my clothesoff? Okay, I can take my
shoes off, sit on the bed. I appear comfortable. You know,
I look comfortable. It's a veryvalid thing, though, I mean,
can imagine you know you're in thatkind of situation. It's like, we
haven't confirmed it's going to be sexyet. I think this. I think

(36:58):
this is going this way. Butdeal. I mean if she came out
and was like, oh, Ithought you would have pulled me a drink,
but here you are with your partspieces out, Yeah, that could
be traumatizing. So the struggle isreal for Georgo I understand completely. I
did like him. You know,when she rocks out and she's not undressed,

(37:20):
but undressed, like, I gottatell you, I'm pretty comfortable.
I think Kramer is in line forthe for the horse, for the horse
bedding. I love. He's nowregurgitating the same story to the guy behind
him by the way that that actorthat he's talking to. It was a
guy named Mark Boone Junior. Sonsof Anarchy fans will know him as one

(37:43):
of the one of the members ofthe Motorcycle Club. I was very fortunate
enough to share a cigarette with misterMark Boone Junior back in the day,
back about ten years or so ago, when there was a bit of a
Sons of Anarchy tour of Australia andI was m seeing it. Is that
really him? Yeah? But Bobby, wasn't it? I think so?

(38:04):
Yeah, he looks at what differentin Sons of Anarchy has grown his hair
out of it. He's got abig beard, sort of a yeah,
bit of a gruff looking gentleman,and old Booney was a bit that way
off off camera. But a goodguy, he said, the kind of
guy that would be loyal to you. Just don't fun with him. Yeah,
but I had no idea. That'sawesome. But it doesn't mention that

(38:25):
on the wiki page or anything likethat. You just you just tell by
looking at him. Yeah, yeah, cool. I mean, hey,
did I mention I've shared a cigarettewith him? I kn't know what he
looks like. That's so sharing acigarette with somebody. Does that just seem
awkward to you now after the wholepandemic? No? Not really? You
do it again now, Oh,I mean we weren't sharing the same cigarette.

(38:46):
Oh I thought you meant like hewas having like can I have a
puff? I thought you meant likeyou shared a cigarette? Oh God,
I wouldn't do that with him,That's what I thought you. I'm like,
Okay, cool, No, weknow, we a nice moment having
a cigarette. Yeah, having cooleach having a cigarette. That's awesome.
But yeah, So basically as Iwas saying, yeah, regret schating the

(39:06):
same story that he heard on theon the subway, have you heard that
moment in your life where you've everheard something You've you've heard of a story
from somebody and you claim that storyas your own as you tell somebody else.
Uh No, because I know thevalue of a story to someone like
that. No, that's that's likemoney in their pocket. You can't take
that. I mean, I'd rathertake money from their pocket than take someone
story. I just tell the samestories over and over and over and over

(39:28):
again. Sue. But he's like, I heard this guy telling the story
on the on the train. Theother day. God, it was funny
and this guy seemed like this,and then this happened, and so yeah,
I would always attribute. I wouldn't. I could not say something really
funny happened to me the other daywhen it actually happened to this guy,
I couldn't do it. Jerry isnow arguing with naked guy over baseball.

(39:51):
I love that, as all endsup with. I love their chances.
Well, it's great. I meanit's great that they've yeah found this common
ground and having a wonderful conversation andeveryone sort of backed away pant or yeah,
you know, the people are stillbacked up down the other end.
It's like, I don't want tobe near this naked guy. But it's
just it's funny. Every sports fanat the start of the year, it's

(40:12):
always just like, you know,this could be our year. I like
our chances. Jerry says, no, I'll sit naked at the World Series
with you if we win. ThePennant hold you that Eline is still overreacting
over something touching your leg, likeeverything is just like the slightest thing.
Now it's just like the worst thingin the world. She's that breaking point.
Oh god, Yeah, I mean, have you spend much time on

(40:35):
crowded subways or tubes or anything likethat. Not not so much chubes,
but crowded just crowded trains in general, like on the way to the footy
or something, and it's like there'sno seats left. You got to stand
up. It's like, oh God. And then all of a sudden it
slows down and you're like, oh, why are we slowing down? We're
not near a station. What ishappening? What is going on? The
train driver doesn't give you any update, and what's happening? It's like,
oh, my fucking goat. It'shot, there's no way conditioning. The

(40:58):
guy over there's not wearing pants.What's happening here? What that guy do?
A love his clothes? Oh god? But then it moves again.
She's all happy and then it stopsagain. George Meanwhile, we've got to
George and he gets handcuffed to thebed and he thinks he's in for some
kinky, some kinky loving. Butno, it turns out that she starts
getting dressed and she starts leaving.I do feel sorry for George here.

(41:21):
Can you imagine being in this moment? But what do you do? The
first thing you do is say nohandcuffs. It's like, I'd like to
just use the lot. I liketo use my hands. Yeah, exactly.
I just don't think handcuffs with someonethat you've just met is a first
date. No, not on afirst date, no, never, No,

(41:44):
but on a second date. Yeah, there's a pleasure doing business with
you, George. But I'm afraidI'm gonnact to keep going colling but we
haven't really you know, eight dollars, eight dollars, what are you doing?
You're robbing me. I wasted mywhole morning any for eight dollars.

(42:05):
For a second, what are youdoing? Taking your clothes? More ginsburg
by George? Just leave me here, I see you again. There will
we get Kramer winning at the race. I just thought it was so perfect,
it was so awesome. Everything justworks out for Kramer. But I

(42:25):
forgot that he won this. Sowhen it comes back at the end of
winds like, it's just it's soawesome. But then the guy that he
sees how intimidating was that guy?He was very intimidating, And yeah,
never flash your money, never flashyour winnings, Greg. No, No,
especially to the guy who hasn't won, so the guy that follows him
onto the subway train. Um,and it's just it's very it's almost like

(42:45):
Jason Vorhees esque. Michael Myers asked, oh, yeah, it's like the
terminating Yeah. The naked guy thenjoins Jerry to Coney Island and having a
great time, and the violinist endsup saving Cramer because he's anun a cover
cop. He is an undercover copindeed, So yeah, Cramers about to
get sucked over. The guy wasgonna pitch his money, but no,
it turns out being generous pays off. I suppose it was, um,
it was a lane that paid themoney. But yeah, it's undercover cop.

(43:07):
I wonder how many undercover cops actuallydisguise themselves as things like this probably
probably be very common. You alwayssee those stories about no usually in fictional
stories. Oh that female cop workingundercover as a hook and I'm like,
really, that gig sucks exactly.Jerry had so much fun with the naked

(43:28):
guy. He's like, he's um, he's telling everyone about it. That
there spent so much time at theCandy Island that the garage was closed didn't
bother him. It had so muchfun with the naked guy. Elaine's not
interested because she missed the wedding.She's says she was the best man.
She missed it, so to cheerup, he was in the monkey that
he won from Coney Island. Don'tworry, you'll catch the briss. George

(43:50):
enters wearing the blankets, nash Na, but you're like a hurry Krishna,
fish down your throat, I've gothere. Punk kid looks like forty year
old man wearing like kid clothes.Like it was the strange It was the
strangest little interaction there. Yeah,he meant to be some kind of street
kid or something, because yeah,you're too old to be mouthing off like

(44:13):
that. That whole ending with theGeorge shot just felt a bit weird.
It just got a bit much justwalking with the blow. He walked all
the way from the hotel in ablanket like it just seemed silly. Joe.
Then us did you whistle on theelevator And he's got a spare key
to his apartment and he explains thathe needs a speak Kecually she took his
clothes and took his wallet, Krabyand then says don't worry. I'll cover
the food, throws the money onthe table because he won from the from

(44:35):
the horse race, and that isthe end. And to be some stand
up discussing the subway to to CodyIsland. Yes, overall a really really
not overly eventful but still really entertainingepisode of Signe felt extremely entertaining, extremely
atmospheric. Yeah, I mean that'ssubway. Look. I mean, of
course it wasn't an actual train,but it looked really crummy, the way

(44:55):
that a New York subway train willlook. I've only been on one a
few times in my life, butit's like, and this was even after
they had fixed them up in thetwo thousands, because you look at pictures
of subway trains in the eighties andthe nineties' is like, oh my god,
they're in such a state, sucha state of disrepair, and yeah,
they're all graffiti to shit. Yeah. So yeah, like I said,

(45:19):
it felt like a little half hourholiday in NYC. Courtesy of Sinfeld.
So that is our review of thesubway. I hope you guys enjoyed
next episode of Talking Sife, we'regoing to be reviewing it. That pez
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