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June 27, 2025 58 mins
 @digital.rancher  and  @prephampaul  Join me and we talk about our ARRL Summer Field Day.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh alright, and then we're making sure mics are tuned
up properly and the audio is turned down a little
bit to go, and we're gonna start off the bat
as all ways, what is going on, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm Frank Cage five AHJ and today we're gonna be

(00:21):
talking about Summer field Day. It's gonna be fun. So
let's go ahead and kick this off right by playing
that awesome intro video.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I quick shout out to all my patreos. It makes
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
In the leak below.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
And on to take radio. What is up, hell y'all doing?
We're gonna be talking about Summer field Day that is
coming up this weekend or this next weekend it's Sunday,
but this coming weekend. I hope everyone is set up
and ready to go, got through all your plans ironed out,
and it's gonna be fun and maybe maybe some weather

(01:33):
plans because don't forget to also check that weather for
field Day, because I haven't yet. I got to pull
it up for us now being Texas, it's probably not
gonna rain, but we will see here in a minute
let's go ahead and start off the bat as always
with the rundown. Thank you to all my Patreon supporters.

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going on behind the scenes and a little bit. It's

(03:51):
just going on all of our lives. And next month,
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And then we decided the last one, Hey, you know what,

(04:12):
these are so much fun, let's do them twice a
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So we're gonna have lots of fun and maybe smoking
cigar in July. That means I'll probably have to set
up in the garage because it's gonna be too hot outside,
but it's gonna be fun. I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
With that.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I something something that happened with one of my guests
and the other one has it join it, So it's
just me right now. Don you know what the link
is if you want to go ahead and join and
Jeff go ahead and join it. At the regular lake,
let's talk about Summer field Day and we can talk

(04:56):
about that and look at what's going on. I need
to get one of the scenes set up for the
zoom or not the zoom, the chrome window, because I
haven't done that yet. Of course I'm doing everything on
the fly. Let's go back to the chat. Well fast
Don dropped a fifty dollars super chat. Thank you very much.

(05:18):
I appreciate that wholeheartedly. That is amazing for cigars and
I will definitely use that for cigar money and cutting
back a little bit on the smoking cigars. Oh Don
doesn't have a camera tonight, bummer man. So we're gonna
be talking about summer field Day. Field Day's coming up,

(05:41):
and field Day is the one day we all get
on the bands. It's a giant contest across the HF
bands to make contacts, and it's also a show of
support on how active this community is on the HF
bands and how we can get up and set up
radios in the field because it also helps promote amateur

(06:04):
radio and preparedness. Preparedness for field day. The term field
day is used so that you can originally to encourage
us to set up in the fields. A lot of
clubs will go out and set up the radios in
parks and activates in the parks and other public areas
for twenty four hours and it is great fun. What

(06:30):
the site I'm showing here is AWRL field Day And
I just dropped that. Oh ha, I'm logged in on
the wrong account. Oops for the chat and you won't
see that. I did not see that. It should have

(06:53):
been like that. Something might have happened when I rebooted,
So let's get that corrected right now. Sorry, things I fix.
When I have a guest, I tell him to just
talk real fast. Where is the chat? Overly and I'll

(07:17):
be watching the chat for any questions and please ask
him and we will cover them. And let's see if
we get that fixed. Boom, that is fixed. And now
let's go to this website. Bam bam. Why is this

(07:37):
still posting to be Frank? I do not want to
be to be Frank. I yeah, how do Jason. I'm
doing fine, just flying by the seam of my pants today.
Paul says he just got home the enjoining in a minute,
and I don't know why this window coat keeps coming

(08:00):
up to be Frank. So I'm just gonna have to
do it over here there. That one's Tank Radio.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now we got into a chat, and I'm going to
fix this by moving this over here and there and
we're back on track. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I don't know if I'm going to have able to
do the pop up chat this time, because it keeps
going to to be Frank and I need it to

(08:27):
be tank Radio and to be Frank is my other
channel I'm using for life updates and what's going on
behind the scenes, for well, just life updates for me
and getting back up on my feet. If you want
to go ahead and look for that channel. It's to

(08:48):
be Frank Radio and that shirt should they're there. Okay,
I think I got everything straightened out. Sorry about that.
There we go. Thank you Dawn for dropping that link.
The A doll R website here, all right, I'm back
on track, Back on track. The A double R website

(09:10):
is all us the information about A double ORL and
all the field day event this year is June twenty
eighth and twenty ninth. And this is moving a couple
of things around, so I'm not looking over on this
other screen. The links right above are the links that
we can use to go to the rules for the
A double RL. We look at those in a bit

(09:31):
and go over the categorization that is going to be important.
And where's the other one? A Double R phil Day locator.
If you're not a part of a club and means
transition so I can talk with my hands and you
want to go and hang out and see what field

(09:51):
day is. You can use the locator to find a
double R club in your area. So if we go
over here and do a search, let's look for ULSS
Texas because that's where I am and search boom, here's

(10:14):
all the registered clubs that have registered themselves to be
a field day location, and you can go ahead and
try to reach out to these clubs probably beforehand and yes,
oh there we go zoom in and see if they're
able to work you in and see if you can

(10:36):
operate with them. So let's go ahead and click on
this one here. I bet it's the Hearst Club W
five HRC. Yep, the Hearst Amateur Radio Club. This is
the address of where they're going to be operating. They're
not going to have a get on the air station.
The contact person is going to be Chris. And here
is their email address. Oops, I didn't realize there was

(10:58):
a phone number there. And then go ahead and reach
out to them and see what their plans are and
if they're able to host you or they'll probably just
tell you come on out, hang out and they just
just to get on the air and operate with them.
Let's go to this scene here, tell me when you're

(11:22):
ready and I'll bring you on. We got Jeff joining,
one of my tank radio commanders. We're talking about field
day earlier and Paul he is coming into So how
do how do y'all? Thanks for joining, doing all right,

(11:43):
doing all right? Here we go get y'all unmuted, and
there we go. I was just talking about how to
find a club in your area, for if you were
not a part of an amateur radio club and he
didn't want to operate at home, how to use the
A Double RAL field Day locator to find a club
in your area, and of course the Dallas Fort Worth

(12:07):
area to being the big and popular with the radio clubs.
Let me find the right transition scene because I moved
things around share No, okay, I'm back on track. There
we go, boom, it'll show us all the clubs that
are registered through the A Double RL. Other thing to

(12:31):
point on phield Day is the rules. We'll talk about
the rules here in a minute, and other social media stuff.
Let's go ahead, and Paul, you're gonna be joining me
for phild Day coming up this weekend. We're gonna be
running stations over at a state park and we've got

(12:54):
a cabin. Of course, this cabin has a c because
you need that in Texas.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
And Jeff, we were talking earlier about field Day plans
and uh, you were just gonna hang out and operate
at home.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
Mostly I'm gonna I am hanging out at home, I
will I will be looking for some coaks I can't
currently locate, and if I can find the coacts, and
I'll probably toss up an infed halfway and see what
see uh see who I can make contacts with it?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
That sounds like fun if you could find that coax?
What happened to the coax?

Speaker 7 (13:35):
I packed things away when I uh went south for
the winter and I haven't found it since.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oops? Thanks, that does happen? I bet I'm hoping you'll
be able to find it because you don't have to
be a part of a club. You can operate at
home and be a a home station operation and you're
not going to be a don't need to be a
part of the club. We're going to be running. I

(14:06):
think I haven't. I haven't figured out our call sign yet.
I still need to reach out and ask a couple
uh one of our friends to see if we can
use their call sign. But a great thing about operating
under field day is because you're going to be operating
under a club call, and if your club call is
an extra then you can operate on the extra bands

(14:27):
under their club call. And and even if you're a technician,
this is a great way to go out and get
your feet wet on the h F bands and see
what they're all about. Because I'm going to guarantee you
after you had that, you know, bite and little taste.
HF is so much fun. That's where field day is
where I started loving HF and I'm like, oh, I

(14:49):
want to do this at home and start doing potent
on my own. Sweet got that working now. But we
are going to be operating potentially three stations at our park,
and we're gonna be doing all the bands. I think
all the bands right.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Could be able to Yeah, we've got a nipol for
six meters so to be able to do six to two.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And the bands they say we're going to be able
to work mostly the work bands, the one to sixty,
which we're not going to touch. We might have an eighty,
but we're going to be forty twenty and fifteen and
ten is six six on there. I thought we said
six's on here.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Fifty megaerts and above you look at the far right
of that sentence.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Okay, so yeah, we'll also be We're going to try
to do six six will be fun. I know our
friend n Yo does a lot of six meter FT eight.
Can we use FT eight as part of the modes?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I believe so, sweet. I think they have what ws
JTX has it the settings in there now that I
allow you to switch it into field day on test mode.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Because it says any mode supporting field day exchange is allowed.
It doesn't happen. Yeah, I'm looking at the rules right
now and we're just going to talk about a bit
about the rules.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
So, yeah, when you go into ws JTX under file
then settings on the very far tab that says advanced.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Do you want to share your screen if you can?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Sure, Yeah, it's that Oh yep, I allowed you, okay.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
And I want to do this screen I believe, sweet?
Is that ws JTXE okay. So you're going to go
to file settings and then on the far tab here
you're going to advanced and then down here you're gonna
check the box that's this special operating activity. Normally this
is unchecked. And when you check that, you're gonna come

(17:09):
over here to the right. It's already selected because because
last time I guess I used it. You're gonna check
a double RL field day and we're gonna here. You're
gonna put your exchange. So last year my my exchange
was one A n t X for North Texas.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's it, that's it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh, we'll talk about the exchange in a minute. So
you were running one Alpha in North Texas.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
YEP, which I believe is portable. I can't remember which
one that is portable or off grid power something like that,
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
And we got the objectives. I'm trying to find where
it talks about the exchange in the rules talks about
logging results, logging, field day, site locator rules and format. Okay, well,
let's poke that.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
The the a double aril. I can't remember if it
was July or June. Probably June had a good sheet
in there that gives you a checklist to check off
all the extra points and stuff too. So it's in
my other room. I don't have it with me, but
it's kind of nice in the magazine.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, that is nice. Let me control zero this. I
had it zoomed in so we can look at a
little bit better terms entries, bands and modes. Is probably
gonna have to be here somewhere. But the exchange, I'm
trying to find where it describes all the stations, like

(18:38):
the Alpha and outside and EOC and clubs.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Let me see.
Let me mute this though real quick. Here there we go. Okay,
let me try here. So that's the band chart.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
The get on the air station doesn't count towards your stations.
That's that's the go toa get on the air and
that it can be operated by anybody with an oversight
operator thought you have to be licensed, but there are
special rules for submitting those contacts. Just just look at

(19:22):
the rules for that, because we're not going to run
that Class A field day group operating Class A or
F are man. They really make that small mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I didn't think it was this difficult to find. Well,
here's field day rules. If that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Now, if you all have any questions in the chat,
I'm watching for those two.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Results categories, let's see PREVHF station in.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Three categories A field day categories match them. Number of
simultaneously transmitting signals, So that's the number. How many stations
do you have transmitting simultaneously? So you can have four
or five or six different radio setup, but if you're
only operating two at a time, then you'll be a

(20:35):
two station and that is the number twenty transmitters maximum
allows for eligibility. I wonder who's running twenty Wow?

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh, look at the results. I thought there was more
on one of them. There's one. When you look at
the results. I remember seeing one that was like twenty
or whatever stations and a letter, and I'm like, what
freak club is running this? Twenty stations?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
And I saw Thank you don, I was almost there.
Here we go. Class as for a club not a
non club portable, A club or a non club portable
group made of three or more persons set up a
special field day station?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
What did I do last year? I can't even remember
non club portable? I must have done an actual field
day I carried about. Can't even I thought you.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Were with us last year. You came out hungry.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, I know I did winterfield Day? Did I do
regular field day?

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Two?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Oh? No, I don't even remember when we did last
field day?

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Where?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Did we can remember?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
A field day? The beach?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I wouldn't have been at the beach.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Class AN or F can have a get on the
air station. A Class B is a battery operated club
or non club portable A club A non cloral is
three or more participant persons set up a special fill
day station. All contacts must be made with power output
power of five watts are less.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Oh yeah, that's why I was because I was non
club portable.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, so just operating yourself just.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Q RP, and I was by myself. That's why it was.
One was by myself. I think I just operated from
home q RP. So my battery connected.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Interesting a battery. Class B is two or more person
operating a station set up by no members with two
except the eligibility of a's then there's battery for a
two or non portable. So these are you don't have

(22:55):
to say to just be a class B. If you're
writing battery with one or two people, then Class C
is for mobile stations. Class D. So if you're going
to be operating at home, Jeff, this will be you,

(23:15):
You'll be a Class D one D one.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'll be a Class B.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You'll be a Class B.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm off good. So everything you run is battery.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but if you're if you're just set up using
your home power shore power, then you need to be
a D. YEP, there's an emergency power home, but emergency
power using emergency power for transmitter and receivers. Class e's

(23:50):
for field day station. Class F is for an EOC station. Uh,
some clubs operate at EOC and they're going to be
class flied as a Class F and those are pretty
cool where you're able to operate within a city's EOC.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Also with the home station, I believe it's still it's
still the same that you can you if you're at home.
I think if your radios are running, it depends on
what the radio power is, right, I believe, so you
could be at home running your computer and logging and
all that on home power, but I think your radio

(24:32):
has to be on like you could do battery power
from home if your radio is on battery power. Yes,
I think.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
That that is correct. So your radios, your transmitters, and
if you're using a power amplifier all need to be
on the emergency powers. But your home router and if
you're using for logging and your laptop can be plugged
into the main power because that's secondary. The main point

(25:02):
is to operate the radio's primary on a emergency powers.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Don's running Don running a EOC Richardson club.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Class D can be also have a sore power the
home station. Yes, the exchange, the A double R exchange.
The exchange is different. It's kind of like PODA. But
you're going to be exchanging your classification and then your region.

(25:37):
The region is what part of the country you're designated
for the area. I wonder if we can why is
it not doing something like Chrome? It's not scrolling now.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Chrome has been given a lot of people errors lately.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, yeah, well it's not letting me post in part
right the right account. Oh it's maybe I don't know
control five maybe maybe.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I'm pretty sure it's not Control all delete.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
All of Chrome is locked up. Here comes it's back,
It's back. I don't know why I did that. There
we go. I gotta start again to find where I
was at. So your your you're the exchange will be
You're gonna exchange your call sign of course, then your

(26:42):
classification and your area, and you do not need to
exchange signal reports. Is that correct if I remember that
part right?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah? I think it's just like like mine was one
A in t X North Texas.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
One A.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I don't call doing any I mean you might, you
might have five nines, you know, on it, but I
don't think that's part of the actual exchange for points.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right, so this is says the exchang three Alpha Connecticut. Okay, yep,
so no, you do not have to exchange the signal reports.
Just exchange your call sign, your classification, and what area
a region you're in. Then there's some miscellaneous rules. I

(27:34):
did link to this in the chat and this will
be also linked in our description for today. If you
want more information and to read it all up, you
find it there and boom is in the chat and
also description a little bit about our plans. We're going
to be operating at Cooper Lake State Park and that

(27:59):
is up here south of Paris. Here we go, and
we're gonna be in this area somewhere, and we got
ourselves a cabin and I'm really looking forward to this.
I'm looking forward to hanging out with both you and

(28:20):
Robert this weekend and.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
We're gonna have fun.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh man, We're gonna be smoking cigars, drinking some whiskey
and just enjoyed the day. Man. We got good meals planned,
we got breakfast planned, we got everything. One thing I
did ask or not ask, but one thing I said
we should look at is the weather. Let's go ahead

(28:44):
and look at that Cooper Lake, Texas, because I think
we are gonna be safe because I don't see any
rain on our horizon. Cooper Lake, Wyoming. That's not what
I want.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Whether dot com is extremely slow.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Here we go. Let's just look for sulfur springs. Did
you get it pulled up before?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I No, it's just like sitting here, yeah, waiting, waiting.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, Oh well, we'll just look at ulis close enough, tomato, tomato.
I don't think there's gonna be any rain on the
forecast for this coming weekend. And now we got an ad,
come on close the ad. All right, here's the ten
day we're gonna be up. Oh we're gonna be up
close to the hundreds. That is classic of Texas. And

(29:54):
the humidity is not that much. Is that hum amity
or is that rain chances?

Speaker 4 (30:02):
That's right, rain chance. I think you have to click
on the day humidity.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Why has Texas been so humid lately?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
That's not too bad. Actually, anything under fifty I can
deal with.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, fifty one the first Friday, Thursday, when we're going
to get there fifty five, it's going to be bright though,
So luckily we're going to be operating mostly inside. I'm
looking forward to that. And what what radios are you
playing now bringing?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I think I'm just going to bring my seventy three hundred.
This will be the first time I've actually, like, really
used it other than just playing with it on the
on the desk. Care so I see seventy three.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I'm going to be bringing my Yazu f T d
X ten and I'm going to bring several antennas because
we talked about running verticals to have a more omnidirectional
transmission for us, and I do like that idea. Robert
said he's going to try to help me fix one

(31:07):
of my antennas. I had an issue with it, and
hopefully we can get that up and running. I'm also
bringing my Alpha antenna and we you're going to run that.
Oh I'm looking forward to running that new Alpha antenna.
That is, let me see if I could bring that
up real fast for us. What antennas are you bringing?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I think my paper I think is in my bag,
but I think the Alpha hextenna that one can be tuned.
I think with the whips it's it's kind of like
a Yoggi basically, but kind of at an angle. I
think it's tuned if you pull the whips all the
way out is twenty meters tuned. And then two, I
got two six meter hamsticks and that like a clamp

(31:52):
type thing dipole. So you put the hamsticks in and
basically make a hamstick dipole for six meters and that
should work really well. You don't you don't need to
up very high, so that that should work good for
our six meter station.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
And then i'll you know, I'll probably throw in my
chameleon that up or something like that.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I believe this is the antenna I got over at
Alpha Antenna, the six to eighty meter. I believe I
got a forty. I don't see it on the website.
I need. I am going to be opening up and
doing the first view over it on the park, so
I can't wait and get it up and testing if

(32:31):
if I can find time Monday, I can run out
to a park and see if I can get it
going in a poda. And I think that's what.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Lengths are the.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
It's it is thirty four feet long, so this total
is it? And uh six through eighty and fill that's antenna.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yep, wow, I guess I have one like that. I've
got three different wire lengths from Chameleon for my my match.
So Alpha Malfha makes basically the same thing, which is
is like he's like you see there, like you got
all right, that'll be interesting, okay.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And this this one says that we can get on
to twenty.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, it's probably. Yeah. I'm sure you can use six
through eighty with a tuner perhaps on most of the bands.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But yeah, so this is an infed halfway, so you
need a tuner.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
M hm. Very cool m h.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
And if I like this antenna, it's gonna be my
home installation. I'm hoping. I'm really looking forward to liking
this antenna.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Well, if you can make a thirty four foot in
fed work, anybody can use that. You've been an hoa
small yard like mine.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Jason says it works.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
He approves the Jason Stamp of Approval.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Then other field days, I'm gonna be cooking breakfast and
that's gonna be fun. I'm gonna be doing eggs and
like a breakfast burrito. I really like doing breakfast burritos.
They're they're easy and easy to Yeah, I'm bringing my skillets. Oh,

(34:19):
one thing we didn't talk about our Milliate meeting, and
I'm gonna I keep forgetting to put this in our chat.
We might need to bring betting, okay, just like we
did over at Dangerfield.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I was just planning on bringing my cot and my
uh sleeping pad and then my sleeping bag.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I'm playing with that, okay. Yeah, so the I was
gonna bring betting, I was gonna take one of the beds,
and I was gonna throw a cotton up there too,
just in case.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Also, and.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, man, I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
It'll be fun. I haven't decided what to make for
what I have. I have Saturday, I think, huh yeah,
Saturday dinner. I haven't decided yet, but I got to
look at the list and trying to get some overtime
this week, so hopefully Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I can get
some overtime. I'm supposed to work into Thursday, but I'm
trying to move it earlier in the week so that
I can get up there sooner. So we'll see it.

(35:18):
As of now, i'll get up there Friday morning.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, that's cool. Me and Robert are planning head out Thursday,
and I don't know if we're gonna have enough time
to set up radios. Thursday night. We're just going to
get there and relax because we just get catch up
and that's gonna be fun. So Friday will set up
the radios and antennas, and I'm thinking about doing Friday

(35:45):
night record another Texas Ham's podcast Live to sing out
on the patio, Yeah, and do a recording. That means
I need to also bring the extra mic pack and
that's that's fine. So so far though, I got all
the I got my clothes packed already. I started early tomorrow.

(36:09):
I'm going to be working on getting the equipment. The
radios all pulled in and oh, yes, we got don coming.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
In, did you. Jason's saying you got a you got
the twenty five Ultra, twenty five Ultra Samsung or is
he playing? Jason said he just bought a new phone,
s twenty five Ultra.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Still still using that's.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Where where did he say that?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Take just bought a new phone, a twenty five Ultra. No,
he's bought just a new phone.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Oh he's he's telling me about it.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I'm not I don't have that phone. Oh I'm
upside down.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
He'll be correct, Yeah, yeah, I was wondering what was
going on.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
We're all getting ash just kidding.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Well, I changed the camera and I messed with some
settings and I didn't correct all the scenes. I'm finding
them as I go and fixing them.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
What what's up done?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I got a delivery from Walmart that doesn't belong to
me and anyway, it doesn't doesn't matter. But I am
the captain or field day captain for the K five
C c L.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I wasn't Barrel City, okay.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
So yeah, when you guys are going over the rules,
I'm like, yeah, we we've already gone over all of
that in the clubs, so well we I'm kind of
familiar with all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
We talked about them personally and and how we're going
to handle it. But I was just scrambling to find
where the sections are because I haven't read all of them.
I just per it.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, Class A and is normally like if you're an individual,
you're going to be running like on.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
A merchants and power sometime, same thing with a club.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And then if you're Class D, you're sitting at home,
plugged into your shore power and all of that stuff.
And like I said, there is and this is my understanding.
There are no amplifiers, So your max power from my
understanding is one hundred blots.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Really, yes, you're not.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
The thing is, when.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I've operated field Day before, it's pretty obvious people are
running amplifiers.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
So nobody's gonna say anything.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But there are things in the rules that say, you know,
don't use my q R O one hundred type amplifiers. Now,
beams are okay, so if you want to get you know,
you know power or whatever, you can definitely put a
beam out there and run.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
A mean.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
So, but I'm going to take my ft FT one optimum.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I'm going to take my ftd X ten and my
seventy three hundred and we're going to run three alpha.
So mag that's the Yeah, that's the thing I've been
getting infector.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I have a video on my channel of the some
things that I bought when Jason was doing that.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Let's make a.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Deal with Giga parts that I have been putting together
to take the field Day, and I put a video
out on that. One of them is the int Teletron
forty five foot masked I built that got that up.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Man, those things are run on the on the discount
one and eighty nine. Oh nice, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I got one last year, I think for one hundred
and twenty nine. It was thirty five foot and I
got it home and I built it, and I thought, man,
these things are nice. So like when Jason had started this,
before the stream started, they were already making deals and
I went in there and I said, well, I'd like
the forty five foot mask. And I looked at it

(40:20):
and I thought, well, fifty bucks office, you know, a
good deal. So I asked for two hundred and they
came back at one eighty nine. I said, oh, hell yeah,
and I got two it because they are really really
nice masks. They're and when you get them, you build
them yourself. They come in the you know, you get

(40:43):
the pieces of fiberglass, and then the little clips come
as separate you know, wrapped up.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Bit and you have to put those on. That's all
you have to do. It's it's I think it took
me an out I have.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
I had the twenty five forty something forty five forty
maybe it's the same, I don't know. That has those
little snaps. You clamp it down and raise it up.
That's what I use every week for putting up infads.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Yeah did you ever did you build it or did you?

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yeah, it came just like you said. All yeah, all
the all the tubes are in one thing and then
that it's like a set of accessories that you just
allan wrenched tight a certain point. Yeah, I think it's
the same one. If I didn't already have it, I
would have bought it for one ninety. That's a good deal.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
That was forty five foot Yeah, and they have a
fifty five.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
But the forty five is it is When you pick
it up, it is hefty. And I've got in the
video I'm showing you the end of it.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
You know, you can see how the thick it is,
so it would easily hold up like a my I've
got some.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Moxins that are aluminum. It would easily hold that in.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
So I think I found it here, and we got
an answer in the chat too. I just wanted to
find it before I called it out. Power multipliers for
the power multiplier from power out for Class A, B
and C cannot exceed a five hundred watts. That's the
PEP to transmit output. Power out for Class D E

(42:16):
and F cannot exceed one hundred watts peak envelope power.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah, so that's why where I was getting at at home.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
You can't be like firing up your killowatt amplifier because
that's class D.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Do they Is there a better amplifier amplifier? Is there
a better multiplier if you're using lower power?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Oh hell yeah if you use q r P And
there are stations they're planning on using q r P
like five watts and they're running all modes. I think
Josh's team is doing this and they get like a
ten x multiplier.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
So every.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Times ten and then c W is two points and
the ft eight is two points, s SB is one.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
All right, Frank, we're gonna have to crank crank our
radios down to ten watts.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
No no, Jason Lockwood, thank you for these times multiplier.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, if you read in there there, I saw Frank
was reading over it.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
They it mentioned the multipliers in some of the classes.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, there was a worksheet they had and they had
it at the top.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
And remember one of you guys, if you're going to
do this, and of course I'm I'm giving you extra
points that against my club here, but if one of
you would designate themselves as the Safety Office volunteers.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Okay, there, you have an orange shirt from my club
and everything.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
We're gonna make it rare it on Sunday or Saturday.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, you're also supposed to bring a first aid kid.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
And have one available and one of the truck. Yeah
I bought that one that you recommended.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Oh yeah, that's what I have in my truck. Yeah,
I've got the same one.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Great.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
It's a great kit.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And it's five five walks, not ten watts to classic QRP.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Okay five.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
And I mean in today's conditions, that's probably going to
be fine.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
We're I'm going to run one hundred. I just I
am not.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I'm more out there for fun than points out. And
the Richards and Wireless Club this is what I was
talking about. They were running Class F and they run
it at the EOC and Richardson, Texas, and it is
air conditioned, and they have a three hundred foot tower
in the back of the UOC with amateur radio antennas

(44:46):
on it for emergencies.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
And those are perfectly okay to use.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Now we haven't used them in the past just because
they were We like to set up our own antennas,
and there were some issues with them that we need
to work with the EOC to get those corrected. That
where we were getting a lot of interference with like
six meters and you know, twenty meters and stuff like
that which we shouldn't even get. So we know the

(45:11):
cabling going up there is bad, but they haven't fixed that.
So we build our own antennas and put them out
of ourselves. And again this is the Richardson Club. They
have a tower that you know, the portable kind that

(45:32):
comes in on the trailer. They have one of those
that belongs to the fire station and they'll set that
up and they only usually put six meter intens in.
And because your six meter station, your technicians can run
it without like help. I think that's why the rule

(45:56):
is there. But those are considered free stations. So if
you're running three out of that, you can have a
fourth station on six meters and it's basically quote a
free station. So yeah, if you if you're you know,
got technicians or something, they can run it themselves. They
don't have to have a control operator sitting here, wow

(46:20):
and operate six.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Right, it doesn't counts.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I was trying to keep it fund that in the rules.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
I got three q RP radios now because this came yesterday.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Oh what is that that you need?

Speaker 5 (46:37):
You need a little Chuck thing.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
For Yeah, it's got like double a's here or something.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
No, eighteen six fifties.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Oh was that what they did? Oh yeah, they're bigger.
I've got this in the garage. Oh yeah, that's why
I got it.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Chuck created this and it clips over of this too,
make it nice.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I should grab that a double R L magazine, Frank,
and just real quick that page if you want what's
cool because it's got a cool checklist to help you
get the extra points.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Grab it there is is it? Hold on before you run?

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Maybe it's online.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Is it this checklist? It might be in there for submission.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
And it has done further.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Contacts the bonus.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
No, I think that's a submission. But yeah, that that
checklist you're I think you're highlighted right there. But it's
just one page in the magazine that has a little
box next to each one. Oh, you can check it
as you go, basically the same list.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I think one mergency power maximum twenty transmitters. Oh that's
that's the maximum, So emergency you can only have up
to twenty twenties transmitters. Public media to be publicized set
up in a public area location information booth, message from
the able r L, the copy down that message M

(48:00):
one W one a w field day message. Then satellite
contact with Robert natural Power CUSOs completed. What is that
natural power CUSOs? That would be what sun so okay

(48:22):
on her wind? I guess okay, I will search that
in a minute. I'm going to put that here because
that I wanted a little more. Oh, please don't leave,
I'll put it there. Sites visited by elected official, Sites
visited by surveyed by agency official means.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
For y'all, if you're out of the park, get the
ranger to come by.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah yeah, I remember Dangerfield. The ranger came by and
it's like, what is going on? Park? That down as
a visit? He visited or she a youth activity an
educational activity, A get on the air bonus station submitted

(49:08):
using the A double r L online. Have a safety
officer for class A only have a site site responsible
bonus EBC okay, and social media. Make a post on
Twitter about it.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
There's your social media. See see I just said that.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
K five CCL is doing it on your channel, that counts.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
The problem is between Frank, Robert and I, we just
don't know much about social media, so.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
We're going, yeah, I know this stream's going nowhere. We
don't know what's going on. Of natural power to encourage
groups for many of years have used alternative power sources
rather commercial power to generate and run fill day operations.

(50:02):
To encourage this that easy one hundred points may be
earned by making making at least five QSOs using natural
power source wind, solar, water, methane, organic alcohol.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Our grain alcohol, grain alcohol.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, sorry, so your bottle of whiskey, Frank, you can
bring that and burn it if you can generate electricity
often make contact with it.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
You've sied, So does this so, it says sorry. Dry
cell batteries not collude as alternative power. So does just
running off of our batteries and charging our batteries count
for alternative or we need to be one hundred alternative?
So all that running by solar I believe.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
So how many watts.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Would you need to run a hundred watt radio though
just from your solar panels?

Speaker 5 (50:57):
Well?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
What, I don't care curious about it, says gas or
you know, like gas.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
So does that mean a propane generator would count as
a way of generating that power?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Wind water, organic alcohol are qualified. I didn't see here
it is again gas.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
No, I thought it said gas.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Or I thought I heard something.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, solar, wind water, methane, methane.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Or methane is a gas.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
We need to stop buy a cattle ranch like some alpies.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. So if we have a huge,
huge solar setup and we could dreninate enough watts, we
could probably run the G ninety four a little bit.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Well, if you if you could get enough solar to
uh like power on one of atoms little uh you
know tins, you know those things he builds.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
And would you say five QSOs or ten?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
I get I get that fire.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
But methane is a gas as well, and you can
convert brokane generators to methane, whether somebody's.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Done that or not at all.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
So they yeah, I have two sets is also, and
I have a powerpol hub that we can put them
all together and that will give us hopefully enough watts
to make the jump MH.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
By the way, one thing I've seen before is have
you ever seen those guys that get.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Up on the bicycles and pedal.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, electricity, I have seen that be used for that.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Hey, hey, Jeff, you want to ride a bike? All right?

Speaker 7 (53:01):
Well, as I said, I'm off grid, so all my
power is coming from the sun, so whatever I use
is gonna be all right. So that's that's good. That's
an easy one. I just need to make my pantech,
so I need my corts.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Well, we are coming up on the top of the
hour here, gentlemen. Thank y'all for joining on the short notice.
Jeff and Don, I really do appreciate that help help
the stream a lot. And I and thank you both,
and thank y'all you're both the commanders. I appreciate everything
y'all do for me. We're gonna go ahead and go

(53:40):
around the room here and just give us a quick
shout on what's your channel and what's coming up? Uh
on your channel? Don, We're gonna start with you, man.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I'm Don in five s k T. If you look
on YouTube, you'll see my channel. Currently I have that
one video up with the going over the things I'm
doing for field day, but prior to that and continuing
on I'm working on that.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Performance Array Solutions vertical phased array deal.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Oh that sounds like fun.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
I've already built the kit and I've made a couple
of videos on it, the unboxing video and you know,
showing what you had to do in the kit. I'd
already built it and I showed it. So the next
step is really to get the antennas out and get
it started working. So I'll have another video on that,
say in a few weeks, but I've got to get

(54:39):
through the field day first before i can move on
to that.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
So that's that's that's where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Well, thank you for joining. I appreciate it. Jeff, are
you still guide a channel?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I have a channel. I don't think I posted on
it in I'll be two years.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
Okay, so come on back. I used to do extra
livestream extra studying for my extra. I probably should I
don't know if I live stream it, but I probably
should be studying for my extra. Still I need to
kick it, get that out of the way.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Well, thank you for joining, and good luck on studying that.
That is one of the harder ones, but it can
be done.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
The reason why I know it can be done. I
know Don has it, and also.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Paul, I've got it, so you can do it.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Paul, what's your channel on what's coming up?

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Prep Pam Paul. Every Saturday, every Sunday night eight thirty Central,
usually after Jason's stream, I just do a live stream
and have guests on, usually some regular, some not regular,
some irregular. Tonight, I've been out of town. I just
got back. That's why i was late coming into the
stream here. So I'm probably just gonna do live stream

(56:01):
on setting up my RTL SDR, just a basic setup,
you know. I've got the little bunny ears and just
play around with that for a little bit before needing
getting to bed into much needed sleep, and then this
this field day, probably do some kind of a live
stream or maybe do the Palomar Industries. I got that
kit through Jason's stream with the discount, and maybe and

(56:23):
maybe show how to add the chokes and all that
kind of stuff to it, just for something to do.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Awesome. Well, thank you for joining. I look forward to
hanging out with you this coming weekend, and uh, thank
y'all for hanging out with us. Just a quick shout
out to Don super Chat for cigars thank you very much, man,
I appreciate it. And Jason Lockwood another super chat. I
thank you, and the best comment of the stream. I'm

(56:49):
going to bring it up here again. It's by the
Knowle run here you you bid x on potato power
Science eighth grade Science Fair. Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
How many how many potatoes do I need to bring?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Well, we'll just go to the grocery store. We'll figure
it out.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
I'll get a twenty pound bag and.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Have Frank frye him up afterwards.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yes, yes, that's how we're gonna do it. Y'all hang
out for a second. Thank thank y'all for watching. I
do appreciate. Thank you to all my tank rate of supporters.
Mike in ight, yo, you need to watch the stream
from the beginning. That is your penalty for showing up late.
And hopefully we'll get you on field day on six

(57:31):
meters because we're gonna that's one of our goals to
get on six meters. Gentlemen, this has been great and
awesome and I loved every minute of it. Thank y'all
for watching. I appreciate and it as always go forth
and conquer, say bye bye. Howventy three. Thank you to
all my Patreon supporters, you can support me on Patreon.

(57:53):
There's a link in the description below. And to all
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