September Time Slot blowout, Cigar Social

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Put the cigar down. Oh, what is going on, ladies
and gentlemen. I'm Frank Cage G five HtrA and I'm
barely breaking that yellow bar. Let's kick it up a
little bit. Yeah, there we go. Thank you all for joining.
This is my cigar show solo and we're gonna have
some fun with some friends and we're just gonna be
hanging out talking about just radios in life and whatever

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kind of subjects come up. But as all lights, we're
gonna start off by playing that awesome intro video. A

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Thank y'all for joining. We're gonna have some fun. We
have hand radio Chris Ham Radio Life in the chat
and uh is those backstage can't wait to catch up
with him. It's been a while. Thank y'all for joining.
You just go ahead and do the run bound at
the top here doing this offhand because I accidentally closed

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for the pre stream things to shout out. First off,
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am going ahead and bring in the guys in the background.
We're gonna use this screen. Yes, what is up, Pally
y'all doing? We got Izzo from the Hand Radio Club,
Pals Prent Pam Paul from Prent Pam Paul. How are

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y'all doing? Yep, I'm doing good. I'm doing good, Izzo.
It's been a while I've been waiting to enjoy a
cigar with my good cigar brother. What are you smoking today?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's been too long for HI since we've gotten together
and the last time I had a work in every unexpectedly.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It happens, it happens. I understand the camera.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh mimy Garcia from Oh very Nice. This is the
sixth by sixty. I like, I really like a six
by sixty. Sometimes the fifty fours are nice, but somehow
the six by sixty this is is just kind of
good for me. So and I like this once it's

(04:33):
all nick Forgwood and it's the last one, so I
gotta get some more. But that's what keeps the economy
going right, nice.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I agree, I agree, and let me switch transitions there boom,
that's better. I'm smoking tonight and Niko rustika. This is
one of my daily smokes that I don't mind if
it goes out.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Excuse me, I think you are smoking on to me.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now, Oh, how's it going?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
It was like stressing out to set up because my
own management right now is like all over the place.
But because I'm not at home right now, I'm in Colorado,
like make shift this little studio thing.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, thank you for joining. I appreciate the effort.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Listen, if you didn't that, we never would have known.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right, that's okay, thank you for joining is Oh, Paul,
how are you doing today?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I'm good. I'm smoking whatever's on the back of your shirt.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, I love it, love it.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
That'll be my cigar every time. Since I don't smoke.
I got to get me some of those bubblegum cigars
and I can, I can join in. That's what I
need to do.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
You know they have chocolate cigars. I see them around
a couple of places.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, I'll do.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
That, all right.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'll find something for the next one.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, you just chew on it. And and just
in joy but.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I sported my what's it called Blackout tank.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
The Blackout tank shirt. I am working on new hoodies
for this year, and they're going to be black. So
if you could probably imagine what all logos and decals
will be on it, and U and once I finished that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's got to be a black hoodie.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I was just I was taking the same thing, so
it's got to be black.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Mm hmmm. Well the other ones are green, the tank
Radio Allive Military Green, which I do love. Is everything
of my channels that all of green. But I think
it's ready with the black shirts. It's time for the
blackout hoodies.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I have a lot of green already. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And Elle, you said you're joining us from Colorado. Nice.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Oh oh, we lost her.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think she's frozen.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
That was probably Oh there you.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Go, yep, yep, you're mute at al?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, how's now?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Good? Good?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
All right. I had to change my camera settings, so
I think I had my cannon log settings, which is
like for color grading, and so that's why I looked
a little dull in the colors. But yeah, I heard you.
I'm in Colorado right now. I'm just here for the
week to enjoy the turning of the aspen tree. So
if around the fall what happens is I mean in
other places, like in Maine, like all the leaves start

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to change and it's just a pretty scenery to take
a look at it and take all in. And yeah, I'm
just here for the week and then we'll go back
to Central Texas.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Or North Texas, North Texas. Yeah, Sunday. Nice. I'm jealous.
I'm jealous. Are you doing hand radio stuff up there?
Are you just doing photography of all the changes of
the colors.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'm going to try to do some hand radio stuff.
I'm actually working on something right now. I just don't
know what that will look like. But I do work
during the week. I do work a nine to five shocker.
I know I'm on YouTube, but I'm still at my
day job that I have to work. And attend to
So Monday to Friday, I've got my nine to five
and then maybe in the evening sneaking a poter. There's

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actually not a pot park, maybe like thirty minutes up
north which is around Silverton. It's called Andrew's Lake, which
I could do one evening.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
So yeah, yeah, that's like the whole area we were
at about two months ago now maybe more that stills
longer than that now, but yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I think that's when I reached out to Hobby, like
via email, because I saw you and I was like, wait, take,
I'm going to try to like reach out to him.
And turns out I was able to contact Hobby and
then wasn't able to meet up with you guys because
I think we all were in Ridgeway. Yeah, Ridgeway further
than Durango.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, we were just in the Silverton area the day prior.
That's why we didn't want to go back there, and
we were just I think we're going west that day
to what's that ski town over there starts with the
tea I'm gonna butcher it Terrano during anyways, this is
where our last dollar comes out that that trail, and

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it was a blast. It was a Yeah, there's probably
been a lot of drinking since then, at least for me.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
My parents own this town home in Durango for six
plus years now, and I've just periodic up here whenever.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh beautiful, beautiful, very lucky. So it's very nice, nice, nice.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I am just enjoying the last time I get to
stream at the seven o'clock hour. Jason is ending his
thirty days in September of Ham Radio and he's doing
a support the aw r L where the Teachers Institute.
I was hoping he was going to come on and
talk about that in a while, said it tell ride.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Oh that's a car, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's that's what I was thinking of. That's a car.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, yes, tell tell you right And Mountain Village mm hmm.
Yeah that that was a fun trip. Fun trip. But yeah,
I'm just blowing this out, inviting y'all on, and it's
gonna talk whatever we kind of feel like talking about.

(10:34):
I didn't have much planned other than getting you all
together and having fun.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Is it were you located again?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm in Connecticut. I'm on the Connecticut shoreline. We're about
one hundred and fifty miles north by northeast of New
York City, right shoreline.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm like, it's already dark for you.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I know, hell, it's crazy because by by six thirty
getting dark. Hey, well I see it. Is there a
dog behind it behind bring them out if you want.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's so weird. So it's like almost a quarter after
eight pm here Eastern time, it's completely dark by six
thirty now in the evening you could see it. And
by seven fifteen, you know, my time. It's it's very psychological.
You know, it's real psychological, but you know, you know,
we'll all deal with it in about three weeks, you know,

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the umbrella table. Everything gets put away. And then I
have what's called I have what's called an ice com
ice hut where they could do fishing up in like
North Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan on the lakes. I drop it
on the deck here, secure it, and I watched my movies,
I Binge, I have cigars, I we do clubhouse. And

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then that's that's probably about maybe April m.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I don't know what happened to me.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Ell is using a canon.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That an is that a canon type out?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, it must be.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yeah, I had that issue when I used my rebel.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
But that's what I have, a canon rebel T seven
I right there, it happens.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
There you are, You're back.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's gonna go back to that canon lug setting.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh well, it's fine. It's fast, endless tonight. But I
don't like it when it gets stark early because I
enjoy coming home and going outside and joined to do things.
Even though Texas is still going to be like one
hundred plus aquat of signs. To be honest, though, this
year to our Texan iights here, it's been a super

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mild summer. I think we only broke one hundred once
twice this year.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's really Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think it's been a great sung.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's been a very mild summer. It's been beautiful. I've
been able to enjoy a lot of time outside. Now
I got a masked up and I'm gonna try to
do more things out here in the backyard. It's just
a lot of things to put up to get on
the radio, and my reception in this area is not
the greatest, so every time I get everything up and going,

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I kind of it's not that great of a noise
fl so it discourages me a lot of times, and
then I just roll to FT eight and then I
just smoke a cigar and play FT eight in the end.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I haven't explored FT eight yet, so that's on my list.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I enjoy FT eight when I get tired, and especially
if we're just like a big group getting together and
we're at doing a field day event or QSO party
or whatever, when just a bunch of people are talking
and I feel like join the conversation and still work
in the radio, then jump over at FT eight. And
it's pretty easy once it's set up. It's just it

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takes about a minute sometimes for to make the contact
and you just click and just wait for the computer
to do all the things for you. It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I do it when I'm doing something else and I
can't really talk or anything, so I just sit there
and look, oh that's a cool call. So I'm gonna
get that one.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Not all I do.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Let me fix the chat, makes it, make it bigger
for us. In this I just reset up all of
my OBS scenes on this laptop because I was getting
ready for the build bench and tomorrow I'm gonna be
on t O's have nuggets and we're gonna be talking

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about grounding. So I was trying to get all that
ready for us to talk about grounding and the chat
one aren't that big for the live scream chat.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Hey, Frank, do you think that's probably one of the
toughest topics or most.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Challenging grounding in general? Yes, in our hobby. Yeah, I
did a pretty elaborate grounding system here at my house
and it's just sitting here by itself right now. There's
nothing plugged into it. But I am trying to use
hamsticks for a no penetration or intrusive that's a better word,

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no intrusive ham radio set up for PoTA parks. So
I go to a PoTA park and the the some
national parks are like, you can't penetrate the ground with steaks,
you can't put stuff up in the tree, and that
kills a lot of our amateur radio masks and things.
So I am setting hamsticks on a tripod. When I

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did that initially, since I didn't have a ground and
I didn't really put the connectors on correct, I couldn't
get out, I couldn't tune it. When I tried to
tune it, it was just it was coming up resonant
on two meter and it was a ten meter hamstick,
not even close to resident on ten meters.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
So yeah, wow, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So I got to fix that, and it's I got
to build counterpoints for it, because hamsticks themselves are meant
for a mobile solution where you use the ground on
your Car's vehicle was for the ground. So you have
a mag mail or you attach it to as another
counting point on your car, and then you use the

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metal surface as a ground reflector for everything else. Well,
I don't have that using my system here, so I
need to build a counterpoint solution and we're going to
figure that out over on hand nuggets.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Excellent.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I got that grounding and Bonding book from able orl
Oh it's like twenty bucks. It's it's not an desive one,
but it's uh really good. It has diagrams. So I've
got my vertical and everything bonded with twelve ground rods
all bonded with I think, I don't know what's that whatever.

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That copper gauge has two gags that you buy without
the without the insulation at m lows. Oh yeah, it's
it's a good book. Grounding and bonding. I don't I
don't know what the latest one looks like. I've had
mine for five, six, seven years.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I I just used solid copper wire or grounding. And
if you go back and watch that video, I drove
in grounding, uh, grounding rods every eight feet. I might
have done nine feet. I forgot now into the ground,
into the Texas soil. That was hard enough, and I
got it in the end a twenty pound jackhammer. It

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was so much fun.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
It was so much for no bloopers.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh, there was bloopers everywhere.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I like, drop the thing.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I would grab it by a handle and the hand
is not a task because it's used piece of a
hardware equipment and just falls. I dropped it like four
or five times.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
One of the things that I've noticed about the grounding
for I ham shocked.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
One size does not fit. All the books are great,
there's a lot of good YouTube videos. I would also
recommend talking to some electricians. It's sometimes it's it's very challenging.
If you live in a house, if they ham shot
on the second floor, you live in an apartment build,

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there's there's no there's no and and and no matter
what you do, it's still not one hund uh going
to work. If there is a near strike. I think
we can all agree. If it's a direct strike to

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your entire everything's gonna vaporize. The electricity is gonna go
where it wants to go. Lightning bolt's gonna go where
it wants to go. There's no pretty, there's no pretty.
I'm gonna screw this world predicted a liberty of where
it's gonna go. Period. We all know that we've heard
the stories from Hams and non Hams, but we we
still we still need to do our due diligence. I

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see more lightning prone locations around the country.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I used to work at a electronics repair shop over
here in the mulis Hurst area, and when thunderstorms come in,
we just get the weirdest things of the ground, the
the the lightning struck in the area, and it comes
in through the ethernet cable because the ethernet port's burnt
and the rest of the motherboards fine, but then the

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CP was blown out.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah why right? Why?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah? Lightning does what lightning does. So there's there's just
typical common grounding that you can do to keep a
common for your house sane and also to keep all
the radios at the same potential. And then there's lightning grounding,
which is completely different and it's more extreme in which

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I'm going to try to do a little bit of that.
For the mast I want to put on top of
my house, do a flat braid wire from the second
story of the mast all the way down through the
junction boxes. I'm going to put up to the first
grounding rod, and I might have to put in a
couple other grounding rods close to that point so it

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just has more surface area to disperse, and then it
can circle the house and go through all the other points,
and I think hopefully I'll be fine. But like you said,
as a strike as a strike, and it will do
what it wants, right.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's I've always learned and talking to from very smarter
people than me in the hobby, as well as the
engineers as electricians. A. You want to deflect it if
you can, but it's it's it's gonna go where it wants,
and even if you direct it onto like a cold

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weather pipe grounding rods, it has still has the potential
of jumping mm hmm, going through the roots of a
tree and then coming back into the house some other portal.
I'll call it the portal. It's just because we have
seen it. We all, we've all seen the pictures of
what lightning does under the ground when it hits a

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tree and it goes through the roots. It's just absolutely
it's another one of those phenomenons that we that that
really don't doesn't, in my opinion, get the attention. You know,
sharks get Sharks will always get the attention. And there's
always the documentaries in the uh, the rivers around the world,

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various other fish and and rainforests and deserts and the
mountains and all, but nobody, really I haven't seen a
plethora of good lightning videos.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I like that word. I try to use it when
I can.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
I came as, yes, are you saying we have a
plethora of grounding rods?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I got of grounding rods one, three, four.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
There's there's the biggest thing. I live with that with
that book. And when I was grounding and bonding and
one of the guys in our club did a presentation
or I forget which club, and that is the distance
your ground rods need to be, which is double the length.
So if you have like I have eight ground rods
in they need to be six sixteen feet apart. And
that book shows a really cool diagram. It puts an

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eight foot circle on a ground room and if it's
closer than eight feet, you got overlap. And then so
it's not dispersing the surge and all that stuff. As
he the best thing is like those circles just to
just to come next to each other. So it's eight
feet by eight feet ground rod, so sixteen feet.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, that's fear influence, so so it doesn't jump from
rod to rod, it has a chance to disperse. Yeah,
and if you're rounding ninety degree corners, I had to
do some math to figure out what that hyppotanus line
will be from that grounding rod to that grounding rod.
And I didn't ma have to figure that out to

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know where should I put that in the next grounding
rod in my house. That was fun. That was a
fun video.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, I did a curve. I did a kind of
a gradual curve, so the last couple of ground rods
kind of come further from the house. But you don't
want to you don't want an exact ninety degree angle, right,
You want to get somewhat of a curve, and I
don't know what the mathematical equation is.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Breaking news everybody. Dawn said, I was right on something.
N five s KT all right, Mark point, Frank did
grounding right?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Is this recording right shot?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
You're right out.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You know it's funny though you talk about how it
does what it wants, because last week I experienced was
it before my stream? I think it was before my
stream We had a huge lightning strike somewhere nearby because
it flashed to the window and then the crack was
just incredibly loud. And I hear that down in my
Windows computer when you plug your unplug a USB, and
I'm like, you.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Do do you?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That's weird?

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Camera stopped working, mouse stopped working, some other USB stopped
working on my computers still running, My audio wasn't working.
On what troubleshooting finally found out. You know, the motherboard
has usually two extra plugs where you can like a
little square nine pin on the motherboard and you can
have front USB ports or top USB ports. So it

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decided out of all that circuitry to blow out one
set of nine pin USB ports that I was using.
H I tried replacing everything. All I did was move
that pin to the second set of whatever they are,
USB two and then it worked, so literally, of all
that circuitry, it just chose to affect that one little
USB circuit on my motherboard. Thank goodness, because I don't

(25:10):
have to replace anything now, I just to switch from
one to the other.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, thank goodness.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Tower PC, not like a laptop PC.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, tower tower PC. So yeah, you just take the
pins out, put in the second set.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
For opening that up and going in there that finally
to figure that out.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Build it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
I've been building my computers since I was fifteen with
my first IBM two eighty six. A mine has a
glass door that opens. It's really nice. It's so easy.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
That's cool. Yeah, I really wanted to build my own PC,
like back in twenty twenty when we're all like cooped up,
but I didn't have the finances and someday I'll build it.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
But there I enjoy it like that interest. But now
I'm at the point where hard where it's changing so fast,
and I've just been in the software where for so
long I'm like, uh, I'm just by a laptop and
there's so much more convenient and this one I'm on
is the one that goes to me with all the
conventions and I edit and do everything.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
So it's just my main one now, John, No my device,
None of my devices were fried. It literally is just
the port.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Wow, isn't an amazing Why the phenomenon? It shows that
one for whatever the reason, we'll never know, right and
why that one and not howcome the ones on the
left or right or anything else?

Speaker 4 (26:31):
And maybe because it was being used, so the headphone
was drawing power I don't know, and the other one
wasn't being I have no idea, but it bypassed all
that other stuff because it's literally on the other end
of the board from the power.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
It could be it could be the headphone wire because
the headphone wires themselves. Is a good antenna captured the
RF and entered in that way.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'm just glad it didn't fry anything right that I
have to replace.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
And this is a part of the hobby again, going
back what I said that, you know, we can understand radio.
We can get into the software why it does certain
things this and that, why it's kind of feed line.
But this is the one frustrating thing. Yeah, it's just
It's like a snowflake. The topic is off is a
huge snowflake, fractals of different Yeah, and multiple rabbit holes. Again,

(27:19):
you talk to you know, between the four of us,
we can have our own stories. You talk, you bring
four more people, and there's eight more stories and eight
more Why they do it? Who doesn't do it? It's
just absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
If you ask two hams how they grounded, what's the
proper way to do it, You're gonna get four answers. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Also, this is this is another interesting thing because I
don't you may be onto something with the head with
the headset wire or something else. Because I have I
installed the whole home ground system in my breaker panel.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Everything, every everything in here is on a trip light
those not cheap trip light grounding plugs. So I mean
it has multiple plus all my ground raw everything else
to get rid of that. Whatever surge hit that thing. Yeah,
I don't understand it enough to know maybe it maybe it,
Maybe it was some something that hit my my headset wire.

(28:13):
I mean it's a long wire. Who knows. I have
no idea for all? You know, Yeah, it's the light.
The thunder scared the spider and he jumped on the
wrong two plugs.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Right, and the spider jumped. That's where it landed, and
that's where was chasing the spider.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now, the reason why I go the reason why I
go with the headphone cord because I have an issue
with this computer. When I'm wearing headphones and running anything,
it will pick up the the stray r F and
it interacts to the computer like you know the old
school volume up and volume down rockers they used to
have on headphones. So anytime I am transmitting FT eight

(28:55):
and trying to stream, I'm constantly finding the volume because
it's trying to the volume down. And that only happens
when I have the headphones turned and plugged into the computer.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Interesting, does your headphones have the toroid on it of
any kind?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
No, I need, I need to put a toy on it.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
I wonder if that would be enough to take.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I tried just wrap it around my finger a couple
of times to make its own little thing.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
But that air coil, air coil and air coil with
no magnetic.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Coil, well well as using me as an insulator. Right,
So that's almost a capacitor right there.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, Frank, are you wearing sneakers. No, I'm wearing socks
butt awesome sneakers and that would help with your you know,
with your browning. The rubbers hold.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Air coils are great at the base of vertical antennas.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Then mm hmm, John's like the finger coil.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
That could be something new, Frank. You might want to
trademark that.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Mm hmm. I get right on that.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
And now you can do stickers, Frank. And you can
do hoodies and T shirts, the finger coiled T shirt,
the beer just right, the cooozy.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh, so many ideas. Where where is James Corky q RP.
He needs to get on this.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
I'm probably taking notes right now.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
John, Thank god Frank cast pants on. We were glad
of that last live stream because I forgot to turn
off my camera. I thought I ended everything, and then
it ended and I stood up and I went to
walk out, and I was like, why is it I'm
still seeing myself over there?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oops? Whoops.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Question Go ahead about antennas on your roofs. You know
you got your antennae and you got your coax. How
do you where you feed the co acx back into
the house where your radio is? Like, do you drink
the hole through the ceiling, or do you the wall
like leave the window crash, and there's there's solutions.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
There's many solutions for that. There are some solutions where
there's a passleor you can put in windows. You close
the window on it and it's a block of wood
or fiberglass that has connector barrels on it. So you
just screw in one side and screwing the other and
then you can come into the house. I will be
on my house drilling holes and going them directly to

(31:22):
a junction box. So it's going to come out of
the house through the junction box into a copper plate.
This is more information than what you were asking for,
and then to my antenna. So in that junction box,
it's going to weather proof it and it's also going
to have the insects. It's going to keep the insects out.
But there's many different ways of doing that. You could

(31:43):
drill a whole through them all.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you to
I'll tell you. The number one thing is if you
can the kiss method, keep it simple, superb.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
So because so for many years I struggle, Okay, and
then we'll we bought this house. I started looking around.
One of the ideas I was going to go with
was go through the eve. At the top of the
apex of the house is the eve, so I was
just gonna slip it in there, do some extra screening,

(32:17):
so no, get a hornets and wasps come in to
tear them out and then work the feed line down
to the room. Like Frank said, I was. I had
on paper a full junction box ready to go and
and but instead I bought a piece of PVC pipe
thrilled the hole. Actually it's right next to the word

(32:38):
the dryer outlets, and I ran my fee line in there.
I took some Tenfo'm not tenfoil steel wool, steel wool
on both sides. And then my grandfather taught me this
a long time ago. He stole my grandmother's pantyhose. I
don't even know if they make pantyhose anymore. I'm sure

(33:00):
they do, but it'll stop any of the little teeny
tiny criers. Can you just stop it? And then on
the outside, I sealed it with this nice coaxial seal
that I got from my electrical wholesalers place, and it
works really good. Now I still want to do the
junction box, the junction box with a nice copper back plate. Again,

(33:25):
run a grounding system out there.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Your lightning arrestors, so that junction boxer. Yeah, your junction
box will take your coax coming in. You put it
through the lightning arrest or. The righting arrestor will ground
out that antenna, and then you could take that feed
line and run it into the house. So if a
lightning strike happens close by, all the access will build

(33:49):
up and the lightning arrest will burn out like a fuse.
Then make a electronical connection between the ground and the
center pin. Then everything is being dumped right into your
ground and coming into the house. Yeah, and you look
at go ahead.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Frank, if you look at that link I put in
the in the chat here in zoom. That's what I used,
and it's what is I was talking about in the
in the eves and you can get them for one
cable two, four and six and you just mine. I
did the whole thing because I just replaced the vent
that was there and I put in there. It's got
six six places, and I run my hat five for

(34:26):
my arden dishes. I run everything through my cameras. Everything
on the roof goes through those.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Pass me one second, we're about to show it here
on the screen.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
What you can do?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
So L, I guess L. The bottom line is, look
at all the look at all your different options, not
only at the house, but even products that we can
get and and and I always say, you know, is
it going to be a permanent installation? Is it going
to be something just for you know, three to six
months out of the year, are you you know? Is
it going to be like the airbnb where you're where

(34:56):
you're just there for a week or so. There's so
many things. Just if you kind of think it out
without giving yourself a headache, you can make it happen.
It's not hard, It really really isn't Paul.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Can I put Paul on the spot here? How do
you run your antenna? How do you run your antenna? Simple?
At the hotel when you're transmitting in Japan?

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I just opened the window and throw a wire out.
It works, right, Paul, It works amazing. And actually I
used the actually just do that, Yeah, I used THEA.
I used the is it twenty five the.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Smaller one, yeah, twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
So I leave the pot of twenty there with my
IC seven O five and a fifty fifty amp amplifier,
fifty watt amplifier, and I'm bringing the mag loop actually tomorrow,
so I'll have the in fed and a mag loop.
But I clip I clipped the wire. It's the Reliance,
the little Reliance bug out mini yep, and it clips
on the end. So it's very hard to see, like

(35:56):
from the ground right, it's a little small black and
the wire is black, and I just kind of angle
it to the side so it's not in front of
the windows below me, and I push it out maybe
four five six feet and then I just lower the
wire and it just it just dangles down. It's black.
It just if you look for the outside you probably
can't see it because the the mortar between the bricks

(36:17):
is black so it probably blends right in. Or I
use a mag loop and just set it in the
window and it's not a big deal. Here on Tuesday,
here is.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
What I'm done. N five s kt shared for a
junction box with lightning arrest.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Very very beautiful.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
And then you got the common ground here to the
flat braid going out.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Now, my just so you know, I have my antentas
in the attic. I always thought they were safe until
I lost YAFT one sent it in, and then I
lost a ya SUFTM four hundred sent it in that
I was running my wires X nodes on and YASU.
When I talked to them over the phone, they said, yeah,
that's the front end is messed up. And he goes

(37:07):
looks like I got some kind of surge and I'm like, well, dude,
it's in the attic. It's not going to get hit
by a surge. He goes, well, they could still build
a surge, and he taught me a valuable thing. You
could still in the attic and can build that electrical
surge on the coats and carry down into your radios.
So I've lost two radios to that. Oh wow, I
have yet to put up a there's a box you

(37:29):
can put up there, and then you got to run
the ground wire out to the you know, the house
ground and you could ground it and get rid of that,
but you know it's the box isn't cheap. And so
I'm looking at another two hundred dollars just to stay
my radios with the antennas in the attic. Where I
thought they were safe.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
The d Extra Engineering box I got two of them
are eighty dollars and they don't have a copper plate.
They have in a lunam plate and the sleep I
could find it. They're always hard.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Is that the one like you were showing, like the
exterior box or is it something I could use interior?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's it's built for exterior, but there's nothing stopping you
from using on the interior. It's a d X engineering.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Because then I just have to get the surge arrestor
or polyphaser or whatever and then and then run the little.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well. Those boxes are available everywhere between the ex engineering,
you're a local electrical wholesale er, a home deep lows, Amazon.
I've seen them all over the place, and I like
it that you can get different ideas for what you
for for your particular application.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
The reason why I went with the DX Engineering solution
because it came with the box plus the table or
the the the aluminum plate, and I couldn't find a
plate and a box at that price. And I'm not
seeing it right now. Maybe if somebody y'all in the
chat can find it and link it, I'll put it
up here. But I bought two of them. I saw

(38:57):
them being sold again because they go in and out,
and I bought too of them. Then they've been shamelessly
sitting upstairs and boxes and when I see them, like
you look at them and go oh, I haven't done
that yet. It's been over a year.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
It's not a year.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
A year.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Can you say procrastination.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I did my grounding video a year ago plus now
and nothing's connected to that wire. And watch that video.
I like dug holes for the the grounding rods, and
I put sprinkler cylinder boxes around them so when my
mowers come, they're not knocking into them. They're sunk in

(39:39):
into the ground. If you want to inspect them, I
pull that little plastic green cap off and then I
could see them. I could tighten that bolt up if
I need to, and cover the cap again and there
would be all in set in the ground.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Is that all on your video?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, there's a two part series. Because I couldn't my
first drill or hammer demolition drill, I couldn't get it
in hard enough because it kept on hitting clay or rock.
So I needed the twenty pounder and then that just
driven that ground rod all the way in. I buried

(40:13):
it pretty much everywhere.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
So.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Of getting in the gate for the ground rocks if
you don't have the drill option.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I rented it from Deepot.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Take a guard take it, take a garden hose and
get the area wet mm hmm okay, and then get
on your and then get on the ladder. So have
someone hold it's really a two person job, and have
someone hold the ground rod at the you know, you
get on and then you with the sledgehammer mm hm.

(40:46):
So keeping the ground wet will help drive it down.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's what the electrician did, because I had electrician come
out and we wired the house ground because it was
the cold pipe ground in which I didn't want. I
wanted him to put a grounding rod in for my
common electrical and I'm not doing anything in that junction box.
And I watched him and I was talking to him,
and he was just doing a water bottle method, just

(41:12):
one sixty once bottle. That's all you used for the
whole eight feet. And I'm just putting it a little
there and using it as lupergan and just moving the
up and down then hitting a bid and pulling it
back up and did that.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Over and over making it look easy. All right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
He did. He didn't like in twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yep, that's how I did mine. Water pound just hand
until about two feet. Then I pounded in the rest
of the way. But you pull it out, put a
little more water in, pound it down another food or so,
pull it out more water.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, I did. I had like three or four rods
to put in there. I was like, I'm getting the jackammer.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
That's all your your method is. Yeah, that's nice, very
nice for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
If any of y'all need the bit for that. I
had to buy a bit and I kept it because
I was like, I know someone's going to watch this
video and be like, yes, do you still have the bit?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Tank Officers can rent it for free for ten days
if you remember.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
That's right, is pay for shaking if you remember a
Frank Patreon, I'll give you a discount. If not gray,
So you see how it works, right.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Mm hmmm h But I got that, and I highly
recommend that, especially here in Texas.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
You know, we were talking about how it doesn't protect
against direct strike necessarily. I mean it can, but there's
no guarantee at all. But I think what I found
What it really helped with me was noise and sw R,
and I didn't realize the effect it would have because
I've got a tuned hustler vertical, but all six bands

(42:52):
dropped in s w R and the and the vertical
became quieter than many of my dipoles that I put up,
which shouldn't be dipoles are supposed to be all.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Right, So someone in the chat than me found it.
So here is the utility box. I got two of them.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Oh wow, it's got the rubber grammot things too.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, it has the groments for coming out of the bottom.
There's just weather proof them. These are for if you
want to drill holes in top and that will clamp
around the wire and then also be a little bit
waterproof depending on the size of your cable. And then
they has holes where I need another picture these holes.

(43:33):
Here are the line up with a two inch drill
out that you can do. And I'm going to have
both those drilled out, and those are going to be
the conduits into the house. And then you put your
copper plate here or this case aluminum, and then just
put all your lightning arrestors and then they'll come in
here loop around and go out through these slits at

(43:56):
the bottom. Yep, that easy. And I couldn't even find
a copper plate. Plus this box cheaper, this very stig
go up. I bought mine for eighty dollars each.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
So this one comes with the aluminum.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
This does already come with aluminum, a little copper bar,
and a bunch of mounting screws. One thing that's holding
me back on this project is weather proofing everything. And
my brother says that's that's the easiest thing. So I
was like, all right, you're gonna come over and help me.

(44:33):
He's like, well, yeah, because you're gonna use power tools,
and you're not allowed to use power tools anymore. He
saw some of the earlier videos where I'm just holding
blocks of wood and it got the drill and then
the wood catches and starts spinning.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Gosh, wood shop teacher's nightmares.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, exactly, a fore finger four finger by time he graduates, at.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Least your hair is not long enough to get caught
in the drill press.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah. Then I think he yelled at me for using
the circular saw one or two times.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yeah, well, you'd have to pull your hair back.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
You might get caughtytail. I was gonna tail on a
baseball cap.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Mm hmm, oh yeah, I've seen it happen here.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
My hair is fairly, fairly nice and long.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I like it. The beard is coming along. I'll hoping
to have a longer beard by now. More epic zz top.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Oh, it wouldn't be epic.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Keep mine trimmed for work? I think I don't. I
don't know if I could go grizzly atoms at work.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh, software, No one cares what you look like. Is
all about the code you produce. And it doesn't even
have to be spelled right, us nice, what do you mean?
Is on Nell's what I'm talking about. I'm severely dysletic.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
So what do you mean doesn't have to be spelled right?
I know I have a there's certain words and everything.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, as long as they're misspelled the same way every time.
The compiler don't care anything anything.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Sure it's in the right data, like variable.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Anything Frank has coded. They know, they just have to
do it in reverse.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
There was another guy I worked with who's also I
think English was the second langage for him. So me
and him blended our names together, and that's how we
said that was our coding style was because his stuff
was always misspelled. My words were misspelled, and it was
just like, yeah, don't worry about it. The code still sound.

(46:42):
That guy was a hoop.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Like comments in there all the time all the time.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
I had one class what dealing with credit card encryption
that was Star Trek themed like shields up was the
handshake for opening the connection in tunnel phaser banks on
full was testing out which protocols that we wanted to use,
and a bunch of other memes and jokes, which that

(47:12):
was fine, But the code audit that came back and
they said I got to remove the function name was
Frank's Free Lunch. You can't have that in credit card processing.
I said no, but it's just doing something else. They like,
you got to change the name.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I'm getting nervous. Now what credit cards have you put
supported software on? I need to change companies.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
My software is still being deployed by that company worldwide.
So if you need a fast food restaurant, flip a coin.
And I probably played a few numbers.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Is that why I get random DVDs of Star Trek
series getting delivered?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I've never no the buok that I had to fix
was some guy randomly once a month out of the
whole software SUITEK got charged a million dollars and I
got pulled into a meeting to talk about that bug.
And I didn't know the phone was hot, and I
jokingly said, well, it just takes one to go through.
Then I'm out of here. They're like, Frank, so and

(48:12):
So's on the line, which is our vice president? So
and so was the line was the president? And so
and so was on the line was a head security
officer for one of the customers. I'm like, what you
didn't tell me? Yes, I'll go work on this right away.
But for overrun and someone else's code. It wasn't mine
but someone else's code. But we finally found it. It

(48:34):
was a hard one. It was a fun one.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Look at the back door password, gone, just put it
in the chat.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I know several of them.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Still no John put what it should be.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
I need to pull up the chat again. And got
hit in by all the links, the tank radio.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
And whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Get that right?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I love it? I love it. Hell, did you are
you in a IT world background? Coming coming into this?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah? Mm hmm. I was a software programmer at my
current company and that I'm met. But then they needed
a product owner and so I moved up from the
software development into the product ownership. Now I lead the
other engineers that I used to work along side with.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Oh nice, do you like being the product owner and
running all the scrums and talking talking to the customers
and all that.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Thankfully there's someone who is above me that has does
more of the client fates and stuff. So I mainly
just write technical stories for the developers. But it's a
it's a different world. There are some days where I'm like, okay,
I missed kind of misdevelopment because with development, you know,
you focus on your one task, like that's all you
focus on. You get it done and then but for

(50:00):
product ownership, it's like you got this project, you got
this project, you got this dev working on this. That's
like multitasking to an extreme, and you're constantly like contact
switching between different projects. And that's like where management comes in.
It's like, okay, how do you manage all of this
and a concise, formally orderly way versus like development? You know,

(50:24):
Frank almost called you tank, But as you know, with
a developer, you kind of can just like hone in
on that one thing and really die deep and take
it slow and really like step through the code and
be like what's going with on You can really narrow
that down, and product ownership is really broad. I would
say it's like the differences.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I really enjoyed being in the encryption world and doing
all the IT security stuff and implementing that stuff. Or
I used to work in NCR. That was one of
my old companies, so we did a lot of that
and that was so much fun, especially being hybrid focus. Yes,
when I'm coding up a storm and I can get

(51:05):
into the code and put on some techno or heavy
metal and then I just slam code out, it was
so much fun.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I love it when when I.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Was like discovering what Mestastik was, I really was like
diving deep into it. I've kind of put that on
pause because I'm more interested in like working the HF
bands now, But for Mestastik, I was starting to code
h the ESB thirty two micro controller to possibly incorporate
like a wake word for the Mestastik device. So basically

(51:33):
I had like a little speaker connected to it, sot
like all the wires connected it to the Mestachha device,
and the idea was like a wake word to then
automatically send a mesh text to say that your your
primary channel, whatever channel that you wanted, where like in
a situation where it's like SOS and you know, you
could like use AI to hear a certain word and

(51:57):
then it's like, you know, like I don't know, like
a panic word that you could program program to listen
to to then send send out on the mash automatically.
I was working on that. I actually got like the
speakers to to work. I just needed to incorporate the
AI part of it. But I had to stop because

(52:19):
I had I forgot what I.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Stopped it for.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
But I stopped it to explore more of like because
that's pretty digital, and I think I was really in
the digital world for a little bit and I kind
of missed more of like traditional radios, and so I
stopped it to go more back into like phone radio.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I'm hoping your answer is correct. What language see c
oh you made Don happy. Me and Don have this
ongoing feud of C plus C plus plus and I'm
on the C plus plus side and N five s
k t Uh is on the old school C so

(53:01):
now you said micro controller, So I did have a
feeling it was going to be seen.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah it see.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
You are in a welcome space, lots of developers and
I people.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
That's why when I first heard about right now, I'm like, oh,
this is cool, Like what is this? I'm gonna dive
deep into it and like here we are so definitely
still got a lot to learn, like what like the
whole junction boxes boxes. Whenever you guys were talking about grounding,
I'm like, I don't know anything, So just.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
All in good time, and once you're everything a good time,
once you're ready to start that project, tons of people
be here to help you.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Have you let me tell you something because I am
V I m V. The three is here on Because
sounds like you guys have some type of IT background.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
So when people I don't know the difference between a
C and a C plus plus I'm gonna be friends.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
With both, right it's two plus.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I know what NCR is, but but I just know
because of the company name. But like, but like I
feel very frustrated because I can learn anything, but I
just need a good teacher for a while. And then
let me go a little bit and then I can
kind of like, for instance, this whole Raspberry Pie world,
I can't. I'm going into it blind. I'm I'm you know,

(54:24):
I want to do something with All Star. I want
to I'm looking at maybe something alternative. I can do something.
So so when you talk about a junction box and
all that kind of stuff, that comes naturally to me.
It's the other side. So so this is where I love.
Where we can start sharing things and you know, you
can learn from me, I can love from you, and
that that's one of the greatest things about all of

(54:46):
us coming together. And I'm so grateful for Frank and
like the Coffee group, the Nuggets group, Jason, Josh, everybody,
even on Clubhouse. Sometimes you can probably learn something. It's
just it's we all come from different backgrounds, and where
where something is is a struggle, you can potentially get yourself.

(55:10):
And yes, God, that's pretty much about what it is.
That's a pregnancy test and that's the only you know,
It's right. It's amazing though, It's amazing because when you
guys start talking about this stuff, I don't know what's
the different is it like between is it like like
the Dodgers versus the Yankees. When you guys talk about

(55:31):
the C versus A C plus plus, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
It's just different languages and it's all to which language
will best be suited for that project.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
It's like Spanish versus entities, and it's.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Just a fun ongoing feud that me and Don.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Have sort of crosses, sort of crosses because some SPAN's important.
You can kind of get through it, right.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Well, don't don't feel too alone, is though, because I
don't know software either. I mean I'm hard where my
I stuff was a network administration before I got my
current job. I know hardware. I don't know software either,
So I just know that C, C plus plus Java, Python.
I just know those are different languages.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
That's all I know about it, right, I just know
the names.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Yeah, Yeah, you're not alone.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Uh. Learning software is easier than it's ever been with CHET, GPT,
CO Pilot, Claude. You name it whatever, AI your favorite.
It will spit out code for you, tell it, tell it.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
What you need. So many times I hate it.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, I mean it's not going to be perfect, but
if you just need to start something and then it's
not going to flesh out those my new details like
Tank you can probably, Frank not Tank you can probably
you know, because you have that experience. But like if
you really just want to like learn the basics you're

(56:56):
and have it be done quickly and efficiently, I think
like AI is going to be your friend there, and
it's free if you you know, pay for free versions.
But I feel like with a struggle with software, it's
probably easier than ever to get started and start diving
deep into it and learn it.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Interesting hillbilly Ham said, Pascal and four chan.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
And John was match because I remember as You're worrying
a lot, and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Why.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
You know, I think your mic switched.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
A wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Yeah, You're like the annoying passengers on the plane that
after the flight mails and I want to go home,
I have to wait and help help dig the take
the chairs, their seat aparts. We can find their stupid earbuds.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
That fell out, or phone all right, I should be
back now, you're good, or a laptop not going into
that story.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Oh yeah, ear buds, earbuds. Every trip somebody drops your bud.
It's somewhere stuck in the seat.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Like when you guys talk about Microsoft versus a Linux,
and then it's just like I don't know. I'm you know,
I just want to do what I want to do
as the end user. And but you guys are very
very profound in your preferences too.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
You know, there is one thing I know is on
Raspberry Pie, which I guess is that Linux. I guess
you don't even know pies will be Linxi is pseudo.
That's all I know. So many times that's the only program.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
John just gave us a five dollars super chat says, Ell,
you can call him Tank. But when you do, you
got to put your arms up like that's right.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
You're absolutely right that high pitch your voice too.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yeah, thank you John. I think.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
You can definitely snort when you say take radio. That
is all horned.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Oh, Chris says, is that you just need to chromebook.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
No that much. I do know that much.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
I do know.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I have an idea for a project and I could
do it now. I have a Nintendo switch and I
want to and I see projects out there put Linux
on it. And I want to do this because I
want to see if I can run FT eight on it.
And I want to do the switch because have you
taken any tablet out in the sun. It's just terrible,

(59:43):
terrible to see. It's hard to see even on those
LCD screens they have for the pies.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
But the switch switch, this one, you can't do it
on the second one, not the second one going through
Nintendo's being really I don't know if you've seen the
news around the Nintendo in the lawsuits, but I think
the first edition you can, but the second one they
might like brick your switch, So I don't research it
into that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, if you I think you see the first one,
you're fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna do on the first one because I
have a second one and I was like, okay, this
is my main one now. But I play my switch
outside in the sun all the time, and I'm like,
this screen is amazing. Then when you take the Joys
cons off, it's just that big and all all you
gotta do is turn it on and set it there
and do a Bluetooth keyboard and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And just seen my?

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Have you not seen my? I don't know a couple
of minutes, maybe one minute or less. Video from hamp
Tokyo Hamfair.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
No, I saw it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Look look at look at the link real quick. You
can even pose it and you can see that. You
can just see it. You don't have to watch the video.
It's just as short. Guys at Parks on the Air
at Tokyo Hamfair, one of the guys did exactly what
you're talking about. See you can pull it up and like,
just pause it when it gets close with the with
the switch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I got it here turning positioning. I'm going to link
to the video in the chat so y'all can watch
it in its glory. But yes, right there FT eight
running on a switch.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Right there as zoom man and you can pause and see, Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Is so awesome. And I knew you could do this.
I was talking about it like a year ago, but
that's when the Switch twos weren't out yet and Nintendo
was doing their breaking of those if they caught you
with that, and I was like, I don't think they
care anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
And I was like, what version that is? Or how
do you know the difference?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
That's the switch one? Okay, I can just tell by
the form factor, the look the colored joy cons right now,
I think they only have black for the switch toos.
But yes, yes, yes, yes, I think I wanted to
do a video on how to do that and figure
it out. I'm glad someone smarter than me has done

(01:01:55):
that already, and I can I stand on the shoulders
see yes, because that screen in the sunlight is amazing, amazing.
I'm glad someone did this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Throw this at you. I'll throw this at you. So
one of the one of one of the ladies I
work with at work, I call her my sister. She
runs the switches. She had a beautiful stand for her switch.
She got it on Amazon. I'm like, send me the
link and I gotta look at it because I think
my q RP radio will fit in there. So this

(01:02:36):
is one of those everyone in the gaming world is
using this thing, and I'm gonna ease it for someone
that is not what it's not intended for. I gotta
just look at the measurements. I gotta just go to Amazon,
look at the measurements, and if this thing is I'm
gonna order it tomorrow and I'll be here probably by
Wednesday Thursday. But uh uh, because she's like trying to
tell me about that, I'm like, I don't care about
the switch. I don't care about the switch.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
I want to know that stands there was once someone
had or maybe it was that the handfair on the FTX,
a little red kind of accordioned up one, or.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Maybe Jason had it. I can't remember. There's a really
nice stand that I I need to find out if
it was Amazon or where everybody got it. But it
was like red aluminum black and it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Can't think of what it's called the lamacall l A M.
I see a l lamic call tablet stand. But I
guess for switch users it's perfect all in their network.
They were going, you know, so I'm seeing a go ahead. Well,

(01:03:43):
you know, I'm not going to use it for what
it's intended for, but I don't care. Yeah, it's just
like my ice hot. My ice hot is not proficient.
It's work, you know, coming out here and staying warm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yep, Hey, Paul, I see a couple of questions about
the Tokyo Hanfest. Can you tell tell us a little
bit about it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Oh, let me pull up the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, I would love no more about that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Oh yeah, I went. This was my second year. Actually, yeah,
and I stayed that the first year. I was only
there a couple hours with a buddy of mine. He
was one of the pilots. That I work with. He
wasn't able to go this year, but this year I stayed,
so I was there all day Sunday. But it was
very It was cool to be able to stay and
see everything longer and be able to talk with everyone.

(01:04:28):
So I talked with Naudeo that the guy that put
the cantenna together. If you've seen my videos on the cantenna,
he just takes little well, it takes big big aluminum
cans now too. They have a lot of aluminum cans
like we do soda and they'll have it with like
iced coffee and all sorts of things in aluminum cans.
And he make he puts a pl two fifty nine
connector on him, or he'll double him up or triple

(01:04:51):
him up and he'll make different resident vhf UHF antennas.
So it was good to talk to him. I talked
to the PODA guys a while. I wasn't able to
meet the guy that helps me every year with renewing
my license, Ken, but I think he was there, but
I never found him. I went to the kids tables
where they have the little kits where you could make

(01:05:13):
a CW A key and FM radio and the little
cardboard like bamboo wood frames.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
I mean it's kind of like as you walk through,
it's the same as ours. It's got a place where
there's there's lessons and classes and a di y section
and there's a place there called c Q HAM I
think is there is there h r O or gigaparts.
So they had that a big store set up in there,
and it's very similar to what we have. They have

(01:05:41):
a j A r L section and tables just like
we have an able r L section. Ye that it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Welcome this year.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
This year I actually was. I got on there. Oh
what's it called Japan or Hamlife dot JP? I think
Hamlife dot JP. I was the interviewed me real briefly.
It took some photos and put me on their hand
Lafe dot JP website this year, which is kind of cool. Yeah,
it was fun. So hopefully next year there might be

(01:06:10):
a couple more people going. We'll see Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah, I'm jealous of y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Gonna I'm gonna jump. As you can tell, it's like
super dark. If I don't have like a nice key light.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
But you go, we can't see you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Before you go. I'm going to make you big and
tell us about your channel where we can find more
about you and okay, all the fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Hi, okay, thanks very Hi. I'm el Marie. My channel
it's called She's on Frequency and we're going fast. We're
growing good. And appreciate you all the new followers and
if you're a new follower, am I here watching? Thank
you guys so much. I really appreciate you following my
journey and supporting the channel. I am looking into a

(01:06:56):
certain q RP radio right now. I'm doing a little
filming of it right now, and you'll see the whatever
I come up like when i'm dur filming and editing,
I'll post about it. But I'm looking at a certain
QRP radio doing some fun video on it, and look
out for that sometime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Awesome, looking forward to it, and I'll sync up with
you because i'd still like to do a full interview
with you coming up here soon and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Uh, frank, if I could throw in She's fantastic. I'm
saying I love watching various people, but she is one
of my top five, top six now her Instagram page,
her Instagram page is incredible. I've shared her stuff all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Oh, I got to find it on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
It's she does.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
She's very honest, ethical and just you know, just just
having fun. And that's you know, without making it already technical.
And you could pick up stuff. You could pick up
little things from her that if you thought you knew,
like a good portion of something. I don't want to
say no, because not everyone knows everything, but if you,

(01:08:03):
if you, if you have a good grasp of something.
But then she's going to come in at a different
angle and she's going to make it think about something
and it's absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
So that is so sweet. Don thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
And you got to come back on Clubhouse too. I
told you got to come back on Clubhouse and just
and just hang out with us.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
I just I just want to be on record on
a different channel, not my own here on tank Is.
When she was at about two thousand, I said she's
going to be one of the biggest, one of the
bigger YouTubers eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Excellent. Good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I appreciate that, Paul. We'll see what the journey takes me.
Even if I'm not, I'm happy to be here regardless
and hang out with everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Awesome, But thank you for doing and I appreciate it
and enjoy the rest of your evening.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
I don't know if you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
You too? That's great ting.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Yeah, he get off.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Uh huh oh, I can't Is it that one?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Is it this one?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Yes, let's see if there's any fluid in here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Yeah, she just broke four k I think last week.
She's been on since like June, June or July.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Awesome. Yeah, she's a rising star and and it's also
showing there her journey through amateur radio. Some of these
guys they're just like throwing kits together and they're like, hey,
this is working, and da da da da da da.
And uh. I hate the polished videos beginning to end
and not showing mistakes and so you're not learning, you're

(01:09:36):
learning about it. But if they get a mistake, I
like to show my mistakes. So so if you have
that same issue, you can go ahead and fix it
too and figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
She was talking about wires X. I knew nothing about
the wires x system. I'm not going to do do it.
It's it's not a particular interest for me right now.
But how she presented the video was so great. You
can learn something about what wired. I feel I at
least I have a little little knowledge now of understanding it,

(01:10:08):
and wires X has probably been around now for a
long time. I just but it was just fun to
watch her stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Agreed. Agreed, Paul, are you live streaming here tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Yeah, whenever we're done here, I suppose I can mosey
over and start my I'm so tired, man, I went
to Japan twice last week. I go again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I was, oh wow, so tired. But yeah, I was
trying to set you up. We got another fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
If yeah, well, I usually you know when you or
if it's Jason, I usually just start mine, and you know,
it's whenever you guys finish your stream. I'm not you know,
people just come over whenever y'all are done. But yeah,
eight thirty tonight's the final final live stream for the
preparedness month of September. So it's just gonna be It's
not gonna be a wheel Spin Brag Chew crew. It'll

(01:11:00):
be just the H. It'll be a Q and A.
So we're just gonna get questions and answers between the
between the those on chat and and see who who
has questions on personal preparedness and the next month they'll
get back to two radio topics and two preparedness topics
a month. Fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I love I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Yeah, I am gonna I got my gigapart stuff from
Jason's streams, so I'm gonna show one of those, one
of those. I got frank because you said it, you
said something about it. Let's see if I can open
it and see if you can guess what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
It is. Ah, the lock pick set.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Yes, yeah, so it's got little locks too that that
are clear you can practice. So you said something, I'm like, oh,
that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
It was there was me and Josh when we were
talking about I think def Con.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Yeah, well you were talking about that. But during the
live stream, I think Jason's let's make a deal. I
saw that. I was like, oh, yes, I want to
get better. I want to get better at that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I picked it up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I'll take my money, all, just just take my money. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
I hate I hate Jason, but love it every time
he does those because when I find deals, I charge it.
If I don't know the miment, I got to charge
it because I don't want to miss that deal. So
I'm bad at that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I picked up some stuff from that live stream, and
I'm looking forward to utilizing everything here. I am really
wanting to do HT testing that's probably coming up on
the channel here soon. Since I have this forty five
foot mass now, I can put a two meters INTENDA

(01:12:40):
on it and then I can do just HT testing
and see what the reception is from different hts and
maybe try a different antennas see if that helps. And
if I have a good solid I've been wanting to
do this for years, a good solid antenna at home
that I have up, I can do a good comparisons

(01:13:01):
between radios and we can see what the true or
bad of each radio is. I think that would be
a fun series and and be something fun to do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Ria said she's got a Japan call to I don't
know if she's still on, but mm hmm. It's very cool.
And I told her in chat if she saw it.
If when she goes to Japan, let me know, depending
on her route, maybe I could be on one of
her flights.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
I don't think i've met Ria. I can't remember if
I met her at Daton or not. I don't think
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I don't think she was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Dayton matter four years ago. She was up here in
the Northeast for a Ham past. Okay, great fun. Lady.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Seen her on many live streams, but I haven't ever
met her yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
She's big in the what what's the Ham Radio Foundation
something something DC, HAM H H d C. Is she
still on a right I forgot? But she she's helping
out with or she's a part of that crew now
and helping out with grants for amateur radio programs that

(01:14:12):
promote amateur radio and also push the technology envelope and
a bunch of STEM So it's a great organization we have.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Forty five is telling her to drop her earbud in
the seats if she's on my flight? No, because I
want to get off the plane and go home.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Is that the worst man earbuds?

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
No, there's worse. But in case anyone's eating dinner, I
don't want to spoil it for him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Now, we don't need to go down that path, all right.
I like taking my shoes off when I sit down.
Is that of yours?

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
I do too. I'm not going to keep my shoes
on for lights? Why would I do that? Longers, your
feet don't stink, now, I do it with stinky feet
and disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I put my shoes on if I leave the seat
at any time, so I don't walk around the plane
on shoes do that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
But people will go into the bathroom without shoes or socks.
It's disgusting there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
That was a phase in my life that's over now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
My gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
When I was in college, I was barefoot almost for
four years. Four years.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
When if you're someone who goes into a lab in
an airplane with no shoes or socks, I want you
to think of that lab as a honeypot thing. That's
basically what it is. It is, is it? Aren't they
called honeypot things? What are those things called?

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
The the the reservoirs for the porta potties porta.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Pot yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, have another name for him,
but yeah, because it uses the same blue stuff. The
only difference is it sucks it away instead of putting
it in a little tank right below you. But the
floor is exactly the same, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Yeah, but yeah, I was. I was barefoot for years.
I was in the snow, the one hundred degree heat
outside with the cement one hundred and twenty plus degrees,
walking right across it. I had a professor's like I
turned into test and it was snowing outside and he's
and I know. She She's like, son, where are your shoes?

(01:16:20):
I said, they're in my dorm. Where else they'll be
And she just looked at me. He's like, I'm glad
you're passing my glass. I was like, I'm passing. She's like, yeah,
I'm going to make sure you're passing so I don't
have to see you again.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
She didn't want your dirty feet coming into the classroom.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
I met people with stinky feet pull their shoes off.
So I go get the We have a bio something
enzyme good smelling spray, and I'm not shy about it.
I go right up next to them and I sprayed
around their feet. And I've had people go, what are
you doing. I'm like, your feet stink and we're not
going to have the passenger smelling it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Oh well, thank you, thank you for taking that on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Yeah, I take care of it because I've had people
like that will tell us like something stinky or this
guy's stinky, and we have to address it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah, ah Rie's back. I don't think you shared it before.
If you want to riah, what what's your Japanese call sign?

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
It was Jake Jaka. I already forgot it. Dang it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Oh she shared it before I missed it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
I gotta I gotta write it down. Ever put it
in again, because Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
The organization is a r d C, a r d
C great Great Ham Radio primonial organization. They do tons
of grants. It is amazing. Well, let's go ahead and
start wrapping it up. Here is oh my man, my

(01:17:53):
cigar brother from up north. Where can we find more
about you? And what's coming up on the things you're on?

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Let's see. We got clubhouse on Tuesday night and then
I'm high tailing it out of here for a couple
of days to go up to New Hampshire for the
NEARfest convention on Thursday, well actually Friday Saturday, coming home
to do some stuff around the house, and then I
go back to work. So I got about a week
and a half off. Oh nice, So that's a band's

(01:18:27):
conditions have been incredible, absolutely incredible. Ten oh good and
ten twelve meters fifteen yesterday I had so much fun.
I came out of work, got home through on the radio.
I was working Russia, working the guys in England and

(01:18:50):
the Netherlands, hunting them from their pods, from their PoTA spots.
I couldn't get out into a park. I just had
too much going on. I really wanted to do park
the park, but it was so much fun to bands
have been absolutely great.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I'm hoping now when I got all this time off,
I'm going to be able to get into a park
and have similar or you know, good good to someone
but you know nothing else. Just like anything else, we
make the best off.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I'm glad you said ten meters is hopping again right
now because the first antenna I'm gonna tune with my
hamsticks is going to be the ten meter and I
want to work some ten meters from the house.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
The second half, Yeah, it was like it was like
fishing without worms. It was just incredible. I think I
think on twelve meters I was working Washington State. He
was only running I think about twenty wats. I was
running about eighty. I love, you know, coast to coast,
podau DX quota, whether I'm hunting round, it's just it's fun, man,

(01:19:54):
It's just so fun. The so if guys get out there,
whether you're hunting or activating or whatever you're doing. Man,
you enjoy it too.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
So yeah, technicians, now's the time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Mm hm hmmm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Oh, I went to the wrong scene there. That's better now,
Thank you, Isoh, I appreciate it. I The other second
antenna I'm going to tune is the six meter because
I want to do an FT eight contact with night
Yo and he's notoriously active on six meters.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Thanks all, go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I'm looking forward to it. Thank you, Thank you, Izzoh,
I appreciate it. Paul my uh Texas other tanker from
morph here. What's coming up on your channel?

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
Man? Well, hopefully I have everything packed and this week
I will try to live stream from Japan. Most likely
it'll be FT eight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
I haven't gotten a voice contact from Japan to the US.
I've only made FT eight contact so far. And then
the live streams every Sunday night Central Time, Central Texas time,
eight thirty pm, usually right after Jason stream. Now that
next week goes back to normal and Frank loses control.

(01:21:12):
I've always had a lot of videos I need to do.
I'm I'm just not great at putting videos together, so
mostly just the live stream Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Awesome. Well, thank you for joining. I appreciate it. We'll
be joining you on your live stream that pops up,
y'all hang out for a minute. Let me wrap up here.
Thank y'all for joining. I do appreciate it. We had
a bunch of fun. Thank you too. Let me get
to the right window. Tell me activity John. Thank you

(01:21:41):
for your super chat. I appreciate it. You're awesome. Thank
you to the tankers who support me. Do you want
to support me and everything we do on this channel.
Patreon links are in the description, or you can join
the YouTube memberships. That's the best place to support me.
We just had our tank Commander meeting, and that is
the highest level supporters. We do a once a month

(01:22:02):
zoom meeting. We get on, we talk to each other
about amateur radio, what's going on in our lives, and
anything kind of comes up in that chat. So that's
all driven by the supporters, all driven by y'all. And
if you haven't already searched tank Radio in your podcast
or app, because that helps support me too. Y'all are amazing.

(01:22:23):
Y'all are wonderful, and as always, go forth and conquer.
Say bye. I had y'all mouted say bye again.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Soon.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
That's awesome. Credits, Here we go.

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