Beginner series 7 of pentacles

The 7 of pentacles as a situation a person or the future is not always what you might think.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everyone, I'm Dorothy. Welcome to Tara Crazy and the
Beginner's Serious to Nighttime. Talking about the Seven of Pentacles
or the seven of diamonds seven of Coins. It was
originally called the card itself often seems to generate the

(00:23):
idea of, you know, all good things and positive futures,
and it doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's a card more in line with past effort. There's that.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know, you can enjoy the fruits of your labors,
So there's positive aspects to every cart, of course, but
it can also be being focused so much on one's
comfort zone one already has that they're unwilling to risk
any of it for change. That can be a relationship,
even if it's not good. It can be one's home.

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You might be in a situation where things aren't looking
very well and the idea of change become a real problem.
And that's what is the core of this card, really,
not wanting to change, not accepting change, not seeing new opportunities.
And if somebody else is in a relationship with you
and they want to do things differently, it's just not

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going to happen. So sometimes it can be read of stubbornness,
but it can equally be in security. So the end
game is I don't want to change. I don't want
to change a thing. I want things exactly as they are.
Where changes do move into place, they will try to
fit the things around them into what they've already got.

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Say example to that, and a relationship might be you
go out with somebody, you really get on beautifully, you
decide to cohabit, and you're going to have to move
into their place. There is no discussion about getting a
place together. By the way, that's never a great idea,
because there's a person who's already existing in a space
has dominance over that space. If they really are open,

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that could be okay, look at me, But the majority
of the time it just doesn't work that way. If
you've moved into their space, anything goes wrong, you're the
one that moves out. You're the one that's created the
vulnerability for yourself, and they know it. So it's not
like when I say they know it. It's not a
deliberate plan. It's not you're going to take dominance here.

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It's like, this is where I'm comfortable, this is how
I'm comfortable, and you need to fit in. So when
you come across a person like this in this sort
of situation, if they've pre existed in that home with
an ex partner or a family, If they've pre existed
in that home because it's their job, their job, their
home comes with the job, then you need to really

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think around the box. And if they really refuse to
switch or move or change, then it's something that needs
to be dealt with before you commit to trying to
fit into their life. It can be representative of behaviors
like OCD hoarding type behaviors where a person just has

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to have everything their way in every way, and please
don't in every way that bit they do not accommodate
other as well. Does that mean I mean it's not
always about a relationship either, and it's not always about
an extreme. It can be the boss who wants everything
done their way, even though their way isn't necessarily the best,

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and even if it is the micro managing, the micro
managing because they want everything to run in a way
they're fully in control of. It can be past dominant.
It can be a person who's sort of living in
the past all the time. They're looking at everything that
I've got, I've earned, and it might be much. We're
not talking about you know, super riches or anything here,

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but it could be. But everything I've got i've earned,
whether it's emotional, whether it's mental, whether it's physical. And
because I've got that, because I've earned that, nobody is
going to have the power to take it away.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And that doesn't mean anybody wants to.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
And so it's a person that will sit in the
back office of the same job for the next thirty
years because that's where they're comfortable and they don't want
to be anywhere else. They don't want risks, they don't
want to demanding anything, and so essentially they won't change
anything until they are pushed. As an archetype, if you're
asking about a person's so you explain archetypes as well.

(04:25):
An archetype is an umbrella term. It's a dominant trait.
But there's a variety of them. There's not just one.
You couldn't draw one card, for example, and say this
is a person. When Carl Young did his twenty three
or twenty six archetypes, he even admitted, then you know, well,
it's red to fight a person just one of these things,

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and it is, but it can be dominant or in
the situation you're asking about. So a person might be
like this at work, but not like that at home.
They might be like that at home but not like
that at work because they might feel a relief or
they may not have the capability of taking that level
of control at work. They may be trained better, they
may understand better, or they may just not be invested.

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So there are variables for everything. So as an archetype,
you would be looking at a person with this tendency.
This is a habitual type of behavior.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't like.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Change, I will resist change. I will look at what
I've got and I will stick with it. And so
they can be boring. That's the other side of this card.
They won't want to go away. They won't if you
do manage to talk them into travel. And I say,
if you do manage to talk them into it, they
might do it once, they might do it twice, and
that'll be enough for them.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And they would have only done it.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because they felt they should or they had to, or
there was a good reason to do it. If they
did do anything exciting, they would do that same thing
for the next twenty years. So anybody new coming to
life would go wow, that's amazing, that's interesting, and then
ten years later they think that they're still doing the
same thing, the same old things, same old thing, and

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so it becomes that kind of an energy. They are
more likely to be down to earth as a person
very much work with their hands, things they can control.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Think about it that way.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Farmer types a person who is stable in their employment
and unlikely to change that employment. That's not a bad
thing if that's what you're asking about. They're very predictable
in general. They're not likely to do anything unusual or
anything that's spontaneous. They're not kind of keen on spontaneous spontaneity.

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And then they're uncomfortable around people that do change. And
if they're really stuck and they know they're stuck and
they want something different, they tend to try and drag
again somebody into their lots. So they might try and
find somebody who is exciting, who makes them laugh, who
is all bubbly or different, even if it's not bubbly,
somebody who's different, and they might make a but it

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will be hard, it will be difficult, and by the
time that's all done, the two people, if there's two
people or three or five or whatever it might be,
might like each other anymore because it was such hard work.
So they can be hard work in a relationship if
you expect give and take, which a lot of people
do oddly. If you expect give and take as a

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partner or in a partnership with business or in a family,
they are likely to hold on to what they've gotten.
What I want to say about that's also quite important.
This whole idea that they should change is not true.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
They don't have to. Why should they.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
So when you get frustrated with somebody who is holding
where they are, if it's your parent, if it's a sibling,
if it's a friend, if it's a partner, you had
the option to not get into that. If you want
a stable partner and they're reliable and you know exactly
where they are at all the time, and in business
that can be very valuable. You also have to make compromises, right,

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which is, well, you know this person will do that,
and they'll do that all day long, and they'll do
that for the next twenty years. But I can't ask
them to expand or to take risks because they're not
a risk taker at all. So those are the kind
of things that you're looking at with this seven of coins,
seven of pentacles.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Seven of diamonds.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
When it comes to situations, if you're asking about a
circumstance and this card comes up, the circumstance is unlikely
to change. That's how we've got it. If you're looking
at it, is it likely to change? And this I
want to talk about past, present, future. They are terrible
spreads to do. Their past has got irrelevance for you.

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Mostly the present you know where you're at, and the
future you can't validate that or verify it. I just
recently looked at a person asking about their brother and
his alcoholism journey. If the questions about the future, that's
all you need to ask about the past will just

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confuse the issue.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
If you're learning too.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
The future that she asked about, of course, was this
is the card. This was the card in that position,
and if she read it as you know, they're manifesting
good things and life will turn out great for them
and they're ready to embrace change. And it's the exact
opposite of what this card means in that situation. If
you are talking about a person's behaviors, say their habits, addictions,

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if you're talking about their behaviors from old that you
haven't been happy with. If you're asking about an X,
and honestly, I do not know why you would waste
your energy and your time and your focus. An X
is something that's already broken, already broken. So then if
you're asking about any of that and you draw the
seven of coins, seven of pentacols, then it is unlikely

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to chang not them. It. So if you're asking about
a future potential with an X, for example, or if
you're with somebody and their behavior's got so bad you're
thinking about making them an X, then this card is
telling you they're okay with the way things are. It
doesn't mean it's good, but they're okay with it. It's

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the same if you, you know, if you're in yourself,
if you're thinking about making changes in your own future,
and your whole mind goes through it, you go up
and up and up, and you start thinking, well, you know,
I could do this and that job would be great,
or I'd love to travel, and you get into this
high energy zone in your mind and then in the
end you just let it go pump, it just stops

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and you carry on doing whatever you are doing. That's
a real common cycle for this type of person. But
if you do that, it means that you're in a
comfort zone and you might need to work a little
bit harder to get out of it. And comfort zone
is a good way to describe this card as well,
point being too, a comfort zone isn't always a good
pain place. A person who stays in a violent relationship,

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a person who stays in toxic situations is part of
that situation and they're part of maintaining it. This is
this card as well, doesn't make it a card of negativity,
because again, if you've created a lovely home, and if
you've created a wonderful space for yourself and you've got
a nice job, you can look around with this card,
and if you've got the right away, dick, you will

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see it's exactly what the card is showing you. You
will look around at what you've accumulated and you'll think, yeah,
this is a bit of me. I'm good with this.
And just as easy, you could look at the partner
having affairs all over the place that you've been with
for ten years. You could look at the kids, and
you could look at everything else and think it's too
hard to change, too hard to exit, too hard to

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take control of it. So it's got those aspects to it.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
If you are.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
At work and work, if your job is under a
lot of pressure, or if there's a lot of drama
around it, or if you've got a boss that you
struggle with, this card implies it's unlikely to change. But
if you're asking about, wow, you know, what's the next
year's finance is going to be for me, You've got
two options with it. So this is where the one
card draws really fall down is you haven't got a

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contextual you haven't got a contextual range, you haven't got
another thing to read it with. But also you haven't
got progression. That is to say, it's a static card.
What are my finance is going to be like for
the next year. You draw a card, it doesn't make
any difference. You're not really reading anything much, So drawing

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it with other cards would make a difference into how
you might interpret that. For example, if you drew the
wheel of Fortune first and then you drew the seven
of Pentacoles after it, you might be looking at you're
going to risk your comfort zone. You might be going
into entering a risk zone, not because the wheel of
fortune is risk, but because the stability of the seven

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doesn't allow the will of fortune and play without taking
a risk. So that could be that it's accidental or
things get a bit of an upset, things go a
bit wrong, but it could just as easily say go
and play on the market and you'll do quite well,
and you'll be able to look at what you've achieved
by the end of the year. So you can look
at it that way too. It can be a retrospective

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a future eating looking retrospectively.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
If you do this, you'll be glad that you did it.
Kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
There's an understanding of oh, if you had it with
the three of the three of pentacles the three of diamonds,
if you had those two together, it would be saying
your efforts will pay off because you'll find yourself being
able to look at all the effort you're put in
and what you're gained from it. So that's that cycle
of it on its own and has no connotations of

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hard work paying off at all.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's a retrospective card.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I've done well, I've done okay, I'm happy where i am,
whether it's good or bad, and when we get into
the idea of using it, say in a current situation
and say you're doing a Celtic cross and it becomes
the current situation, which is the first card where you're
at your status, my current situation, my current circumstance. That's

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something that everybody else can see. By the way, it's
not a mind thing. While it's got a crossing card.
If that was there would say it might be a
bit hard to leave yourself out into the next stage
of your life, into what it is that you need
to do or want to do. And sometimes we've got
to look at it that way, that it's a bit
hard to leave yourself out or to move beyond.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Where you are.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
But at the same time, if the crossing card, which
is that helps or hinders, it isn't a challenge and
it isn't a good thing. It's either and so you
need to nut that out. Two good cards together can
be a hindrance. By the way, optimism without grounding, without
without foundation. Then if we've got that understanding with a

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seven is a current circumstances card and say it's crossed
with the ace of ones, that would suggest that you
might have discussions with people that could turn into arguments
discussions do about making a change. It could be that
in your mind, you're thinking, I really want to have
a change. I'm really struggling with it, but I need to.
We've got a group situation where a partner or a

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group of people are not so happy about the idea
of the change. That can have this discussion thing around change,
around doing things differently, about stepping outside of one's comfort zone.
Or it can turn into an argument with people who
don't want to change, or you could argue with people
trying to get you to change. So it becomes quite
an interesting aspect when it's crossed with the Ace of Swords,

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and then on the other side of it, if it's
crossed with the King of Swords, it is that there's
a streat that's going to be in place that would
be very helpful. The King of Swords would be very
helpful for the Seven of Coins. In that situation where
the seven is a current situation or circumstance and the
King of Swords is crossing, it's a master strategists there,
so there will be a strategy put in play to

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either hold what you already have if it's under threat,
or to create a change in such a way that
it's comfortable making that change. This is the difference, for example,
of a person think about changing their job. I very
often see this should I stay or should I go?
Or should I quit or should.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I move on?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
None of that's even a thing. We don't do that
in real life. So if your questions don't reflect real life,
then you're going to struggle. Most people that just quit
a job without having another one in place don't even
think about it.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
They just do it.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
They're like, I'm over it, I'm over it, I'm thinking
about leaving. I'm thinking about leaving, And at no point
did they think about looking for another job. So the
king with that seven of pen cause is exactly that.
It's planning it. It's you know what I do want
to leave this job. I know what I'm going to do,
and that's that king. I know what I'm going to do.
I'm going or planning what I'm going to do. I'm

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going to look for another job, and when I find it,
I'll handle my notice and then I can transition nicely
from one job to the next, and then I don't
come under pressure. If it was with say The Night
of Swords, the chances are pretty good that the individual
would just dump and run and feel very uncomfortable, because

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I'd feel like, now I've accumulated this experience there, but
I go to the next job having to explain to
them why I didn't transition neatly, why did I leave
my last job, not why am I looking for a
new job, completely different question. If you are looking at
the arm the Night of Cups, the Night of Hearts,

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crossing that you would have a person who is trying
to shake things up a little bit, a catalyst maybe
moment where a person's looking at everything they've got and
taking it for granted. The Knight of Cups can be unreliable.
It's not a lovely card as such. It can be
fun and enjoyable and unreliable and self centered, and so

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when you put that with that seven, it can be
very much a card of I'm pretty comfortable the way
I am. I'm just going to go around and have
affears and have fun and be a knave. With the
original name for the Knights was Knaves, they made them
a lot more palatable by changing that to Knights in
the eighteen hundreds, because the Knaves were the second Sons

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the third sons of four sons, because none of these
are poor people except for a couple.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Of the cards.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
These knaves are the second third sons with his money abounds,
are well educated, they can travel the world, they can
do what they like, and they're not nice people are
spoiled brats without any responsibility. So if you put that
with the seven of coins, you haven't got a staying
in the comfort zone. As such, you still have a person, though,

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who's unwilling to change their behavior because they're perfectly happy
with what they've got. And so we can start looking
at this card and you could peer it. A great
way to learn about pairings is to do that, to think,
you know, what do these two cards look like together?
Without trying to do readings. There's a point where I
bought my cards last week and I'm trying to read

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them this week. Doesn't work. It's just frustrating, and a
person then has to dive into the internet and go
and find a search of a meaning for a card
that will never be correct. And so it's one of
those challenges, isn't it. If you want to learn the
card part of tarot, part of learning taro is challenging
yourself to be a puzzler to work things out, but

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it's also challenging you to allow your intuitory of response
to come first. You're not a school child. If you're
a school child, go play. But if you're not a
school child, then you don't need to be learning as
if you're at primary school. Putting a picture with a
meaning and another word and then that's it. It's defined,
and once it's defined, there are no parameters beyond that.

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We can't call a hammer a nail, we can't call
a cloud the sea. You know, it's how it works
with your brain, and it becomes very hard to look
at another card and just look at the image and
work out what that response you have to it could be.
And looking for that response is powerful. That's how readers read.

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That's how readers have always read. That's how good readers
will always read. And you know when you haven't got
a good reader, because they will always say something that
this card means, this is how they will start, this
card means, this layout means it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So the card.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Doesn't have a meaning, and therefore it needs to be
connected to the person asking the question, not just the cards,
and certainly not a meaning that they don't really have.
If you have the right away, do find the pictorial
Key to the Tarot by Arthur Wait. The only authority
on those cards is Afterweight after Weight collectively interpreted or no,

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it didn't. He translated elfis Levi's major Arcana imagery.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's first, and that was done.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Elfis Levi's would have been done in the early eighteen hundreds.
We're going right away late eighteen hundreds, just so as
we understand that. Then we've got a lifus Levi's interpretive
and he wrote it.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's a book. We can go get it. You can
buy it. I've got it.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I've got a few of his you can go get it,
where he discusses the intellectual aspects of the symbology. And
that's what we're talking about with these cards. We talk
about symbology and the intellect and scholars, the educated people
of their day who for a life as Levi had
studied theology, he was being trained to be a minister,

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a priest or whatever, and he decided that they were
all bolocky, and he turned to occultism. And he also,
well he might have done this first. He converted to
Judaism and then he embraced occultism and went from there

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and his carballistic studies is what really put him into
the occult zone. So we've got this interesting history and
we've got some very interesting cards. But if you want
to read those cards, those old style decks, you need
to understand where they were coming from, what the symbology was.
And they both tell you, but none of them say

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this card means this. It's a discussion, it's an idea,
it's a symbolic reference. Again I've urged this before, but
some of the most taling cards if you have a
look at the original death card and then go and
have a look at Arthur Waite's the R. W. S
Death Card and look at the difference of them. And

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of course I always describe and think of it as
getting to the beer bones, and that's what I've created
in the Victorian Taro. By the way, I've created a
card of fragility. There's lots of butterflies in the card,
and then there's three skeletons, and there's two skeletons where
one has got wings and the other ones trying to
hold it back, and the third skeletons actually got a

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bit of a smile on his face, looking directly at
the person holding the card, and you can see the
heart beating within his skeleton chest, within his rib cage,
and he looks pretty comfortable. And so for me, that's
those stages what holds you back, because transformation is hard.
You've got to get to the beer by of yourself

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and that's a whole other card. But you understand we
When you don't understand those symbolic references, then you will
look for a meaning for a card and it will
say transformation. It's not transformation, and it isn't a meaning.
It's what can lead to a transformative experience that can
lead to transformation, but it isn't transformation in itself. It's

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death first, and that's the same with a seven of coins,
seven of pentacours. It's that unwillingness to change is in
there first, and then after that it's is it a
good thing or is it a not so good thing?
And that's how you can look at all of the cards.
Is it a good thing or is it a not
so good thing? Because if it's a not so good thing,

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then you get the opportunity to read further forward and
ask why why.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Is this person this way. Why is the situation this way?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
If you're asking about yourself, externalizing everything and a reading
isn't healthy either. So if we look at this, even
a Pinecols, quite often a personal ask about a relationship,
they go, oh, yes, okay, so this other p like that,
Like this woman did with her twin with her brother,
she turned around and assumed that it meant that he
will embrace the change. All she's reading is what she

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would like for him to do. She's not reading what
he will do. And if you're going to read what
somebody will do, you need your focus to be on them,
and you need to be prepared for it not to
be what you would like it to be. You need
to be prepared for that. Or you're not reading anything.
You're not interpreting anything, and you're not divining anything. You're
just expressing your own mind through interpreting cards. Think about that.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
When you do that.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
That's probably the most common thing with reading for yourself
and one of the biggest dangers. I'm going to say
this all day long. If you've got something really important
you want to know about, pay a good reader and
get the good information.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And I do mean a good reader. I don't mean
go to read it or.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Go to kor or go to Facebook and chiktok and
go oh, I want information about this. If you don't
value the information, then how important can it be?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Really?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
So you're looking always for that angle of if I
need information, if it's vital for me to be able
to make good decisions going forward, then I need to
do that correctly. I can read for myself only if
I can be completely objective. There are people who can
do that. I've written books. Just every book I've written

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has been just for people who want to read for themselves.
All of these are for people who want to read
for themselves, because over the last twenty years we've seen
more and more of this, people wanting to read for themselves.
Prior to that, it was a professional circumstance, and it
still is.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
So those that are.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Good at what they do and professional at what they
do aren't selling readings for two dollars and they're not
giving readings for exchanges. Those are novices, those I don't know,
scammers a lot of them. The good readers aren't as
easy to find as a bad reader might be or
a non reader who's just trying to make it back.

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If a person is selling something, they go, well, answer
your question for two dollars. I'm sorry that they are
definitely not a professional. That's a person who will just
keep hitting people here and there thinking they'll be willing
to part with two dollars and by the end of
the day I can make twenty bucks. How young do
you have to be for that to be important? Honestly?
So think about that side of it. When you're reading

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for yourself. It is much information about how to read
cards for yourself and in practice self discipline to be
objective about receiving information that's of value. When I got
my first deck of cards that I bought for myself,

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and I do this with every dick of cards, although
now I only use the cards I've created. I've created
five decks. I've written something like seven books on terror read.
Oh no, I haven't. I've written four or five books
on to a reading. I've written a couple of energy
therapy and one on reading how to read? All is
I hold the deck when I get it, unwrap it.

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You know it hasn't been touched by human hands till
that moment. You're the first person to touch the deck.
It's not imprinted. The cards have no energy or power.
They have images, and you're the one who's going to
interpret those images. And self editing is usually coming. It's
a natural thing to do, but if you have a
pre bias, that makes it even worse. So you need

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to learn to be self disciplined in your query. And
I always have wanted one thing from my cards, one
thing with my cards, one thing I wanted to do
with those cards, and that was to have the truth.
And I say that, I've always said it, and I
say it my readings. I'm all about the truth. I'm
not interested in anything else. If it's not the truth,

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it is no value, and it's no value. And feeling
good for a couple of days, I only to find
that your interpretation was completely wrong. There's no good in
feeling miserable for a few days I only to find
that your interpretation was completely wrong. Because when you do
those two things, or either of those things, aside from
the roller coaster effect, you also find yourself in the

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unfortunate position of being on an emotional roller coaster for
no good reason. And if you can't really separate yourself
from that, don't read for yourself ever. And also if
you're very emotionally charged, if you're highly emotional bala situation,
put the cards away. They will not help you if
you cannot gain objectivity. So all of these are powerful

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ways to get the best out of your cards, to
be able to read for yourself in ways that are
productive and empowering. If it's not empowering you, put the
cards away. They're not meant to disempower you. They're not
meant to scare you. I had so many people have
come for readings in the past and they've sat down
in front of you and gone, I feel quite nervous. Really,

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my answer, there's always great.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I love that that you're pushing yourself out of your
comfort zone a little bit.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
If you say the reading resonates with me, or if
you say my cards resonate with me, or my interpretation
resonates with me, of course it does. Resonate just means
you agree with yourself, you agree with your interpretation. If
I'm doing the reading for you and it resonates with you,
it's not a boost for me, not at all. I

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don't think, oh yay, it resonates with them. It just means, oh,
you agree with me. You can't agree with me about
the future.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You don't know. You might like it if it's good news.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I've got clients that come to me over teen years worth,
and they'll ask me about a man or a woman,
or they'll ask me about a job or whatever, and
if I give them something really positive, they'll go yay.
I know I can trust that coming from you. Hear
those words, I know I can trust that coming from you.
So think about yourself as that person. I want to

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trust my interpretations because I know that they are not
confirmation bias. I know that I'm not justifying myself, and
I know I'm not just reading my own thoughts and
feelings back to myself, because that will always resonate.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Dorothy, this is Taro crazy. Chalfin out