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Okay, Oh, welcome every want you Tory crazy, I'm Dorothy,
And today we are looking at the judgment card. As
I keep reminding, in case you haven't listened to any others,
the major arcana are not situational that cannot be read
adequately when you apply them to situations that are already
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covered by the majority of the deck. There are only
twenty two major arcana cards, and that's because they hold
that higher spiritual concept, a higher mind, a greater level
of understanding, a greater level of discernment, all of these things.
They are your growth and development. They have no other
purpose in the reading. And so traditionally and to this day,
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I get if I'm doing a team card drawer and
I get more than three major arcanas in that drawer,
I will reset it. I consider that a misdraw, and
I am far from the only one. Everybody that came
before me did exactly the same thing, because ain't nobody
got time for that much spiritual development. But if I
do get more than one, I look at them together,
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what is batting off? What is the conflict? What is
going on there? If it's a three card draw, which
the cards will never intended to be read as if
you get one in three cards, who knows. Maybe that's
the only thing you need to pay attention to. If
you're doing daily draws, got to be honest, they none
of the cards mean much a daily draw. So the
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chances of you in a daily draw situation taking the
information to heart, and when you do a lot of
draws for yourself, the chances of you using that information,
understanding it, developing and understanding are really quite slim, which
means it's just an exercise. It's just playing. Is it
getting to know your cards by drawing every day? Absolutely not,
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absolutely not. You're reading in retrospective or you will get
into these online platforms you go to read it. You'll
go to Facebook, which is the worst. By the way.
You'll go to wherever you go to in social media,
and you will go I don't understand why I got this,
and that's because it's impossible to understand and you don't
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need a question. I'm seeing a lot more of that too.
If you're going into somewhere and you've popped in a
I want an interpretation, how somebody pops up and says
I need a question, dismiss them entirely. They don't know
what they're talking about. They don't know how to read cards.
They want to type your question into chat shebt so
that it can spit out an answer with the cards
that you've drawn. It won't be correct, it'll just be crap.
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There's nothing else to do, and often they are the
rip off readers. They will have an Etsy site, they'll
have something else going on, or they'll come through for
donation reading, hoping that you saw their little five second
it's so long it takes taken to copypaste what you've
put out there to chat shebt and have it spit back.
It's bibliommensey, as in theft of everybody else's answers. Since
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nineteen ninety nine, Yahoo Question and Answers I was answering
questions way back then. Judgment. That actual little explanation I
gave there is about judgment. The card judgment is to
use your higher mind. I'll tell you what it's not about.
It's not about judging or being judged. It's not ever
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going to be about those things. They encourage or warn
you of a need for development of your attitude, of
your thoughts, of your emotions. Your mind control your emotions,
not the other way around. They never do. While we
get the impression that if we're feeling emotionally and we
respond to that, the mind has to have an attitude
in a thought first, otherwise we can't respond at all.
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So the exercising good judgment or bad judgment is where
this card comes in. Now, always defer to your image.
If you have a card deck that isn't Arthur Waits,
and it has a different image for each of the
cards you refer to that, rather than the bibliomansy of
getting a meaning and trying to remember it, you cannot intuit.
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You cannot reach up out forward when your memory based,
and all learning is memory based. If you are thinking
about language and English or Spanish or French, whatever your
language is, Arabic. It's all memory based. You're taught what
something looks like. There's your image. You're taught what the
word looks like. That's still an image in most cases.
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Then you're taught what it sounds like. At the same time,
grouping those three things together and intertwining them forever in
your mind. It's repetitive learning. But if somebody gave you
something completely different and applied that word to it, you
would be in denial, but not a pointless denial. Your
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whole brain would go, no, that's not right, and there
is a refusal to accept at that point as soon
as you start with that's not right. So learning to
read imagery will always always make a better reader and
outweigh and improve and define in ways that looking up
a meaning can't do. Even when I give a response
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I was asked about the judgment card or I wasn't.
I answered one on Reddit there in the Taro forum
about the judgment card. And so it's about knowing too
that it's not an edict. The word judgment isn't an edict.
It's not judgment means this. It's not a library definition,
but it is definitely language in language has energy and
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energy has history, but it also can be applied to
the future, as all language can, by the way we
put it together, the way we put an image together.
So in Arthur's image, he's actually done a pretty good
job of most of his major arcana. But I want
to say they're not his. He has simply used Elifis
Levi's imagery. He's expounded on that a bit. He's researched.
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He's gone and looked up at Talia's works, which are
actually non existent. They're all referenced works until the Internet
came along. Suddenly we have a whole it tell you stuff.
So when we look at this image and if you
have the right away deck, and that's the appropriate name
for it, by the way, for the simple reason that
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it would never have existed if Arthur's friend writer Waite's
friend writer hadn't offered to print the deck for him,
because nobody else would print them at that time, because
they were considered sacrilegious. Just to get clear, So we've
got a being, it's not an angel, by the way.
He calls it a being. And his explanations about the
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wind creatures he says those with SODA's a life of
Levi they almost never use the word angel now and
again it creeps into Arthur Waite's pectorial key. But if
you've got a different image, think about the image first
and the directive second. The directive is the word judgment.
And of course in this people are being called to order,
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exercising poor judgment tends to lead to regret. But as
a developmental card, we've got people that are flowing in
a river, they're in what essentially are coffin's and they're
rising up out of the coffins, and that's to indicate
waking up. It's it waking up. It's almost a calmer card,
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and so is justice. They apply to fear thinking, fear mindedness,
right action, right activity, right attitude. With this card, what's
forgotten and not put in any of the newer publications
is it's not called judgment. Judgments, just what fit on
the card. And his chapter for this book, in his
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explanation for this card, in his pictorial Key to the Tarot,
he's called it the last Judgment, which is very religious oriented,
and that's one of the things that Crowley would have
a go at him. But everybody there was understanding of
what the last judgment meant, So it's not a religious commentary.
It's what people are taught and it's what they know
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even outside of religion. You know what the last judgment means,
even if you're not religious. I've never been religious, and
I know what it means because we're all taught some
level of that in some way. And the last judgment
here is a call to order. Once you know, do better.
That's the judgment card in a very baald statement. Once
you know, do better. Until you know, you will blame,
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you will externalize, you will claim ignorance. You know what
the tax departments all around the world say, ignorance is
no excuse. What are the laws of most lands say
ignorance is no excuse? So it's a pretty powerful thing
to understand. Ignorance is no excuse. It's your job as
an intelligent human being to assess, to research, to understand
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before you act, or before you think or before you speak.
So we've got here. The In Arthur's book, he calls
this one and angel, but it's got flames in its
hair and a life is Levi's book where he drew
this image. He calls it a winged creature, and half
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the time Arthur goes between angel and winged creature. So
clearly he hasn't defined what. But because it's above the clouds,
if you see any imagery with clouds and something coming
from above it, we talk about our higher mind, our intellect.
It's an intellectual card we need to discern. We need
to be discerning, We need to exercise good judgment. It
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is never going to be about judging. And if you
put it there, you're already externalizing either you're judging someone
or that judging you, or they have pulled. Yeah, basically
that's it. You're judging someone. It's not about being judged
or even judgmental. And I think that's a spiritual concept
that gets a bit lost in there when people talk
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about judgment and then spiritually we're told, well, you can't
be judgmental. Absolutely every person on the planet is judgmental
in some way, shape or form, and there are ways
we are perfectly content to be judgmental. We're judgementable about judgmental,
judgmental about murderers. We're judgmental about certain wars. We're judgmental
about governments. We're judgmental about pedophiles. We're judgementable about women
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who cut men's things. Off and that might be a
laugh for you. But I was talking about Lorena Bobbitt yesterday,
so it came into my mind. So she's not sorry.
By the way. I saw her interviewed a few years
ago after she got released from prison, and the one
thing that was really noticeable was she wanted to laugh.
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She was still happy at what her activity was. And
she's paid the price, she's gone to jul the price
of society. But did she exercise good judgment in her act?
And the answers probably know, but she doesn't care. She's
remorseless about that. We've got three other individuals on the
river that are already standing up that all waving. They
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can see each other. We can no longer claim ignorance
as an excuse for our behavior when this card arrives.
And this is in any situation. It doesn't matter what
situation you're asking about. If you say I keep making
the same mistake again and gain the judgment card is
saying it's your your fault. When I was coming through
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the early stage as a spiritual development, I had all
of these people saying you are perfection, nothing's your fault. You,
you don't need to feel guilty, none of this is true.
If we don't feel guilty, we don't have a barometer
for our behavior, do we Guilt can't be visited upon us.
We feel guilty for what we think, for what we do,
for what we say, for what we don't say, for
what we don't do, for our attitude, And so when
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we feel guilty, we need to understand why we feel
guilty so we can correct our behavior, our attitude, whatever
that might be. It doesn't matter if it's justified because
we're being treated unfairly, there's your justice card. But it
isn't good judgment to engage repeatedly and acts that make
us feel guilty. And when we do that, it inroads
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our belief and our confidence in who we are. And
as far as my mind is concerned, the only way
to have low self esteem is genuinely not to do
with someone else. It's to go along with those concepts,
those environments, those things that create.
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That for you.
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That is to say, if you sell your soul to
the devil, you will have low self esteem. If you
sell yourself for money and you're not a prostitute and
doing that for a specific purpose a job, then you
will experience low self esteem. That is to say, if
you stay with a partner who is abusive verbally or otherwise,
and you stay there because it's the easiest thing, I oh,
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you won't like yourself very much. It doesn't matter what
they say, and so you compound it. But continuing to
stay judgment is a card, and that situation is a
moment where you can exercise good judgment, in which case
you allow yourself that beautiful moment of developing great self
esteem in confidence. But you can also make decisions going
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forward instead of dizzering or being concerned if you're too slow,
if you're too cautious. There's caution that's warranted, but too
cautious where you miss the opportunity. Something's going on in there,
and you may need to develop this idea. The trumpet blowing,
it is like it's a blearing, obvious moment. That's why
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it's a trumpet. When a trumpet blows, everybody hears it.
That's the point of it. It's piercing. And so in
this card, the trumpet's being blown and it's saying, wake up,
wake up to yourself, wake up to what you're doing,
Be aware, be conscious. You know, when I teach spiritual
development to those that are seeking, which is my major
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part of my job, not the terror when I'm doing
that with classes or individuals. One of the things that
I talk about there is that moment of waking up,
because we're not waking up to the world around us,
We're waking up to ourselves. And we can't grow until
we do that, and I call that first consciousness. You
can't develop anywhere before you have self realization. And self
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realization is this last judgment before you find yourself judged
by others, which has nothing to do with this card,
but it will happen when you exercise poor judgment. Isn't
that correct? People don't like what you're doing. It doesn't
mean you're doing the wrong thing, and you may even
be doing the right thing and exercising good judgment. But
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at the same time, if you're exercising poor judgment and
being judged or having justice come back and give you
a slap, you won't like yourself very much. So all
of these lead you away from being the best version
of yourself. So the last judgment is you are the
last judgment upon yourself. Take a breath and relax. That
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was rather a speechy kind of a thing. But there
we go. So when we are also looking at that,
we've got an interesting interpretation here because the last judgment
is a post life religious belief. And I call it
that because the chances of being a thing is pretty slim.
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But the deed arising from their tombs. He says, there's
a woman on the right, a man on the left,
and between them their child. It's our obligation to teach
others good judgment by using good judgment ourselves, by being
that person, by developing a sense of quote unquote justice
or fairness in our dealings with others. And to do that,
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we also need to have fairness in dealing with ourselves.
The idea once you get this self realization, once you
get past the externalization of just about everything, whether the
events are beyond your control, If an event happens beyond
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your control, it's not your fault, just so as we're
clear on that. But how you respond to it is
the determination. Do I exercise good judgment? In my response,
I just turn around and kick and spit like a kitten.
And I know that that's not the right thing to do.
I am not the beast version of myself. I'm not
going to like myself very much, and I may feel
guilty for days, weeks, hours, months, or even years, depending
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on how much damage I do. So these are exercising
good judgment. We all understand poor judgment, and if it
repeatedly cycles in challenging circumstances, this card is likely to
be a reminder of your own culpability and most of
your experiences, not the experience origin necessarily although maybe, but definitely,
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and how it goes forward. If you know somebody's violent
and verbally abusive and you egg them on, if you
rack them up, if you gas like them, then you
are part of that, if not the cause of that,
and you're exercising poor judgment. It doesn't ignore that even
when events are initiated beyond your control, how user respond.
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Obviously each opportunity need exercise your good judgment, and that
might be walking away, It might be saying nothing. What
is so strident that it has to be said, even
if that's not the right thing to say, or it's
poor judgment of a thing to say. What we do
have when we exercise poor judgment, in almost every single case,
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whether there's guilt or not, is regrets. And that's something
to really own. So if we understand I exercised poor
judgment in this situation. I had a client who was
upset because she got the sack. She was literally told,
we don't need to hear anymore. You're a destructive element,
and here's your pay checks for you later. That's about
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with the que in New Zealand, and we don't use
checks anymore and haven't done for years. They're not legal
tender anyway. So she came to me and she wanted
to talk about the fact that this boss picked on
her and he gave her a hard time and so
on and so on and so on, and she said
the fatal words for her was from the minute I
started in that office, I didn't like him, and I
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said stop right there. Perhaps that led to everything after that.
And she actually blinked once like the movies, looked at
me and she's, no, that can't be it, And so
we carried on. She was totally ignoring that her attitude
and her expectation colored how she responded him to him,
how she spoke to him, and that colored how he
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treated her. He saw her as a problematic employee that
didn't follow instructions, that tended to make things slow or late,
or had a belligerent attitude, or would argue all of
those things. About two months after that she'd got another job.
That was all right, we've done a bit of a
reading on that. But when she got her next job,
she realized, you know, that she had a similar type
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of a boss, and she immediately saw the cycle between
the two employments, and that becomes then now you're the
common denominator. And if you're the common denominator, that makes
you the problem, or at least a significant part of
the problem. So exercising good judgment is about understanding where
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we need to change our responses, our initiative or activating sequences,
what we say and what we do. We're the ones
that need to make olderations if we want our life
to be different. And we come back to once you
know better, do better. As a child, we're learning this
all the time. Right, you fall over, so you're balancing better.
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You speak back to your parents and you're two and
they get upset with you and put you in time out,
or you throw something, or you bite somebody. The training
is constantly adjusting your behavior to be socially acceptable. You
can sit there and say, well that it's just terrible,
and I'm sitting there and saying, no, it's not. As
part of the social environment, we don't want adults running
around kicking and biting us. I'd rather they learned. And
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we certainly don't want a ten year old doing and
a fifteen year old throwing tantrums in the middle of
a mall. Wouldn't it be all? And there's only one
reason people don't is they taught to behave better. Then
there's a point where we self moderate, need to self moderate,
and until we do that, that's self realization, good judgment.
Until we do that, things continue to not go well.
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Now that can be in one area, that can be
in a variety of area, could be life in general.
You might feel like the whole universe owes you something
it doesn't. By the way, you might feel like your
whole family owes you something they don't. By the way,
if you don't take the learning, and I'm not saying
it was great, and I don't say you deserve it.
If we don't take the learning and understanding of what
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it is you did learn, then you are the one
exercising poor judgment. We should all use what we learn.
The reason we learn about danger think about that for
a second. Everything we learn about other people and their
behaviors in their body language teaches us how to be safer,
and the world we leave our families eventually, regardless of
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how abominably they treat you. And so one of the
things then that you look at is if you get
scared from a car nearly running you over, or a
stranger walking up to you and menacing you somewhere in
a bar, or out a cafe, or out on the
street or at night when you're walking home, you learn
to be more careful, isn't that right. You learn to
adjust your behavior, You learn to step in a different
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circle or in a different way, or you learn not
to get off the bus at that stop because that's
where they were. You get off the bus at the
next stop, even if it's further to walk, or even
if it takes a bit longer, or you catch an
earlier bus, to make sure you're not in that environment
where that dangerous person was, because if they walked up
to you, they're around there somewhere. So we learn these
things in so many ways, and then in some ways
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we choose to use them as a means to exercise
poor judgment. My father left, they died, my parents were abusive,
whatever it might be, no good close bonding relationships. Therefore
I have bad relationships. But that's not true because those
people aren't in the relationship with you. Only you are
in the relationship with the other person. And when you
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exercise good judgment, you start at the very beginning that
upset me. I'm not going to behave the way I
did last time because it didn't go so well. I'm
the common denominator.
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Now.
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As soon as I've had more than one experience with
more than one person, I'm the common denominator. If I
act the same way, if I respond the same way
in multiple situations with even one individual, but multiple situations,
I'm the common denominator. How can I do better? Is
exercising good judgment, isn't it? How can I be better
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as exercising good judgment? What can I do, think, say,
or believe that will help me be a better person?
Is exercising good judgment because all of those indicate that
you woke up and realized you were part of the
problem if there is a problem, And on the other side,
it can be an indication that by stretching out and
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being real in the moment. Being understanding of the reality
of the moment, you can alter your behavior before something
even happens, before you're even in a situation that you're
not happy, or not comfortable or unable to proceed. So
exercising good judgment, you are the last judgment of your life.
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And Arthurweight wasn't religious at all, So he saw these
things and Elijah a life as lead. I saw it
all his psychology. He was fully engaged in that. He
was an incredibly well trained individual in spiritual matters. And
I don't mean that likely. He trained to be a
priest dump dan Over, became Jewish, converted to Judaism, and
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then after that became an occultist. So he had been
reading all these scripts, delving into them, moving and understanding
his way through them, having conversations with some of the
greatest minds of the time. In France. He was not English.
In France, he understood Latin, he understood Hebrew, he spoke
multiple languages. When you start looking at a person with
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super intellectual properties, you realize that they're not fanciful. He's
not wandering off, he's delving into the psyche of human nature.
And the last judgment is part of that psyche of
whether we recognize that we're going to be forgiven later. Sure,
they'll march it out in front of us, as religion says,
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we'll go, oh, we feel really bad, but in the end,
I'll go pack pat pat on the head. Look good.
It's a big fat lie. You don't get that in life.
If you get it in the afterlife. If there's an afterlife,
great or some but I wouldn't plan on it just
in case. It's like, what if it didn't happen. There
was a time when it was only believed that rich
pharaohs and rich kings and queens went into any afterlife,
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and those kings and queens and the royalty did not
believe it at all. By the way, there was a
power struggle between the royal houses of Europe and the church,
and the church nearly won until King Henry come along
and slapped them down and he made a new church.
And part of that he was saying, that's what I
think of your church. It has so little meaning that
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we can just create a new one. And that, my friends,
is today's taro crazy. I'm Dorothy. Catch us later if
you've got a comment or a question about a card
or a card you want me to read that or
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