Beginners series 9 of cups

A mixed bag today 9 of cups a little bit of history, card pairings and cross referencing just for beginners

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome to the beginner's series of Taro Crazy.
I'm Dorothy, and tonight we're looking at the nine of Cups.
The general query or reading of this is that you
know you're getting everything you want, You're feeling pretty good. No,
not necessarily. The niner Cups is pleased with oneself at
the core of the energy. And if you've got a

(00:23):
card with different imagery on it, use that imagery. This
isn't about reciting a meaning. And I would read nuance
in this card all day long next to other cards.
And there are positive aspects and not so positive aspects.
But it can be feeling pleased with yourself. It can
be arrogance. It can be a card where a person
is an exaggerator, where they exaggerate and escalate things. Now

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they feel okay about that, and that means it can
be a card that represents a sort of sociopathic personality
where as long as they get what they want, they're
not too worried about what that costs others. It can
be a master manipulator type who is constantly chasing after
more more and more and more money, more time, more attention,

(01:09):
and it's not really about material anything and that really
was The question was was it mean to material material wealth,
And it's like nothing. It means nothing to that. It's
feeling accomplished. Can be passing an exam with no monetary
gain whatsoever. It can be completing the fence that you

(01:30):
started to build and you worked hard all day on
at the end of the day, when you feel really
good about what you've done. There's the nine o'clops because
it's a feeling card. It's the cups. We explore all
four aspects of the suits of the in day to
day life. Every single day we've experienced emotions and feelings,
two different things. Emotions come and go, feelings. I've had
a good day, even though I've had a few upsets.

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The upsets are the emotions. The feeling is the majority
of the day. So a feeling can last for years,
years and years and years, a general feeling, an idea,
and then emotions come and go. We have well being
and well being is really the pentacles or the coins, sorry,
I should say the cups too as a suit as

(02:15):
the hearts. If you looked at it as a heart,
would you apply material well being to it? Is the question?
So the old cult drive the creation of that occultist,
which was just a fashion, a trend, a hot seller
in the eighteen hundreds. By applying occult status to the cards,
they took it away from the standard pips and they

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added a scary factor to it. It was popular. That's
all I've got for that. Does it matter? Not? Really?
I prefer the older pips. I prefer the hearts, the cup,
the hearts, the spades, the diamonds and the clubs. When
you are talking about Cartermancy, that's what you're working with
and it's where they got it from. So when we
are looking at the pentacols or the coins or the diamonds,

(03:00):
we are looking at well being and that's an umbrella term,
just as feeling as an umbrella term for the cups.
If we look at pentacles as money, and I've seen
it read this way so many times. If I see
a professional reader or a reader on TikTok or on anywhere, Facebook, anywhere,
I try not to mention that word because I think

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it's disgusting. Anywhere you go on social media, if you
see a person reading the coins or pentacles as money
or financial, I would just move along because they're missing
the point. It can mean that if the query is that,
but so could a cups? So could are ones? And
if we come to the wanes, the ones would be clubs.

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In a standard pip deck, they were bamboo and the
original Chinese deck and they still had the modern cards,
mostly modern from the eighteen hundreds. They have the little
we leafs coming out of them, which is exactly how
they were drawn a few thousand years ago as bamboo.
Just a thought to notice that might be where I
go next. So what are the ones? The ones are action,

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that's all they are. What do you need to do? Now?
If you're asking about what I need to do and
you get a cups, then you are talking about say
you've got the nine of cups with that you need
to appreciate your efforts or you need to understand what
if it's required for you to have that level of satisfaction.
Because if you've drawn a one are cups with? What

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do I need to do? Question? Sorry, if you've drawn
a cups or a hearts with or what do I
need to do? Question? It could be that you don't
really want to do it, or it could be that
you want to do it, but there are other factors
preventing you from doing it. This is in every single
day of our lives. When we're looking at the ones
and we're looking at action, it's action or non action.

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What are we doing? What are we not doing? And
then when we move on to the swords, it's the intellect.
All four of those are in play in our life
every single day. The swords aren't instant pain. They are
what get us out of pain. By the way. The
swords thinking, processing, working things out, they are our planning.

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We don't just plan with our heart. We don't plan
with emotions or feelings. We respond with emotions or feelings.
We don't drive or initiate action with feeling unless we've
already had that feeling as a response to something. Let
me explain. Say you've gone and sat in the sun
and it felt really nice, and you hadn't done it

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for a really long time, and you say to yourself,
I should do this more often. I should do this
more often as the ones. It feels really great, there's
your cups. Going and sitting out there in the first
place is still part of the ones. But a planned
action is divination. So I should do this more often
as the ones. And while I was out there. I

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just let my mind drift, and I was thinking all
of these wonderful thoughts. Stares the swords, okay, And I
was getting vitamin D and I was doing good things
for my body while I sat in that sun which
would allow me to absorb calcium and vitamin BS and
all these other good things. And so I was also
addressing my wellbeing, my physical wellbeing, which is the pent

(06:19):
to cause the coins. Does that help? It can be
that light. The more often you draw cards with nominal issues,
the more nominal the meaning will be. And that's a trap.
If you want to read cards in a more especially
if you want to read professionally, you need to keep
your exploration of the Taro to non reading to start with,
until you understand the cards better or you need to go,

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which it always was until recently. General get a big
reading if it's a GT, if you've got the normand
if you've got any Tara deck at all, the Celtic Cross.
If you have cards and layouts that are too specific,
aren't getting information. I saw one yesterday where there was

(07:03):
a ten card layout and every card had a question.
That's not a layout, that's just twenty questions. Or ten
questions or five questions. A layout isn't ever going to
be like that. A position is not a question. A
position is an aspect of the layout. There are a
lot of really bad layouts out there, and they are confusing.
I saw this girl had typed out all of this

(07:23):
stuff for these ten cards in relation to the question
and what she thought the answer might be, and I
knew it's just all nothing, because tomorrow there's so much
in there. None of it's going to matter, none of
it's going to make sense. And her job was about
what her career looked like going forward. It's simple query,
and it turned into this big, complicated thing. But she
didn't learn one thing about her cards because at the

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bottom she said, I went and gurgled all of these
and I'm just not sure what it all means. After
she'd written a chapter of a book basically, So it's
not helpful. It doesn't help you learn, and your brain
when it gets too much information, it just switches off.
Everybody's does. I saw a really interesting psychological report about
these really long names for agencies, and they're like, it's

(08:05):
actually psychological because the average person sees this really long
name and their brain switches off, and after that they're
only taking a small amount of information. So it's kind
of a trap. Learning the cards is not hard start there.
Learning the cards is not about meanings. Try that. And
so now we've got our pips understood and our suits understood,

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then we come back to that nine of cups. Now,
the nine of cups, if you've got to ride away
Dick shows a fat self satisfied guy, that's a problem.
He's over indulged. So the nine of Cups can be
over indulgence without seeing consequence of that over indulgence. When
I was in Thailand, they used to all say to me,
and I wasn't a big girl. I was just average,

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you know. And I don't mean I wasn't even slightly fat.
I was just average for a New Zealand girl. And
these people would pinch my arms or pinch my hips,
just gently to hurt me. When you go into clothing
shops and they go yeah for young aye for long.
And I walked out and my friend was laughing and
she said to me, you know what that means, don't you.
I said, not a clue. She said it means fat foreigner.

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And she said it's not an insult because if you
put on weight or if you're bigger than they are,
they see that as you having abundance. You can afford
to eat too much, you can afford to get fat.
So I thought that was pretty funny, and it's still
pretty funny, and now I am fatter. But one of
the interesting aspects of that is the nine of cups
plays into that as well. And that's why reading a

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meaning doesn't help you. If you're reading an understanding umbrella
term for it that it's maybe being satisfied with self,
pleased with self. You know, we've got sayings that are
negative for saying you're pleased with yourself. A person can
cause trouble and you can say, You'll say, right, look,
they look so pleased with themselves, or you might think

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it that pretty pleased with themselves after causing all that trouble.
It's not a nice person, But that niner cups could
be in play because they good about what they've done,
even if they've caused damage. You see it with gossips,
you see it with bullies. They can feel very pleased
with themselves when they've intimidated somebody else, or a person
can feel very pleased with themselves when they've manipulated somebody

(10:14):
into giving them something that they didn't want to give.
In that regard, it can be a narcissistic type of energy.
You can apply so many things to that one card
and to every card that to give it a meaning
is to steal from it in some way. When you
look at a card from a different deck, a more
modern deck and more attractive deck, by the way, with

(10:35):
better imagery, then you also utilize the image itself. You
could completely. I always feel a bit sad when I
see beautiful cards and then they've used the old pips.
If they had not done that, the card could easily
just be read for itself. And I just always think
it's such a shame. And I talked about that in
another episode when I read a card. A girl wanted

(11:00):
the repretation of a card that she said, I just
don't get this one. I would say she doesn't get
a lot of them, because what she's looking at is
how do I apply the three of what was that
the four of cups? Was it four of pentacles? I
can't remember now, four of cups? I think it was
with this image and she couldn't apply it. And that's
because the image is brilliant, and it does reference the

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umbrella of that card, which is self isolation, by the way,
choosing to be separate. It's not even being inverted. There's
a choice in it. And so she couldn't align that
with what she understood the meaning of the three of
Cups to be, which is the same but not quite.
And so the image didn't reflect her belief in meaning

(11:43):
as opposed to it didn't reflect the concept of a card.
I thought the card was a perfect concept, by the way,
four the three of cups, by the way, But if
she'd taken that out of there, a person would look
at that image and they would feel that image. That's
what I always do feel that image. Look at that image.
What components are in there that really give a message?

(12:07):
A strong message. I thought it was a super powerful card.
So when we are looking at that nine of ones,
do you really want to learn what the nine of
ones is? Or do you really want to look at
your card and take your direction from the card? I
would choose the latter if the images were awesome. A
card can have a directive on it, and you need

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to understand that all words and writings on all tarot
decks are directives. You might want to think this way,
but you can ignore it if it doesn't fit your situation.
You might want to think this way, and you can
ignore it if the image doesn't match it at all.
And there are plenty of decks that throw those things
on there just because they think they should, or publishers

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won't actually publish your cards if they're not specific. And
they're trying to hold on to those old terror decks
that they've been making billions of dollars out of since
the seventies, So for over fifty years they've made money
with cheap decks that have an origin where the authors
and creators and the artists have been dead over fifty years,

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so they don't have to pay any royalties, and they
can take those pictures, throw them on the cards, print
up a little cheat sheet whatever, and then send that
out into the world. And they are the printers that
are doing this. They are the people that do the
printing making the maximum profits, and so anybody can do it.
So they're common cards around, and they cheap cards around.

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Do you really want those cards or do you want
those cards because you can find a meaning online. I
don't get it. Honestly don't get it. Why would you
want somebody else's meaning and interpretation when you're trying to
develop something that has an intuitive response, Because you can't
have both, you can't have a recital memory base. I
learned this meaning and intuition, which is forward motion and

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interactive with other people. You can't interact and get the
energy of another person while you're trying to remember what
a card means. And that's where it gets pretty frustrating.
I've said it before, I said again. The first thing
our instructor told us back when I learned taro, and
that was with the right Away deck, because they weren't
very many decks around outside that, and I didn't have

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the US Games one. I didn't like it. I didn't
like the look of it. I had the Lascarborough deck,
which was much more attractive to look at. And our
books were taken office, the guidebooks, the whole nine yards,
and she kept them for the whole three months of
that program. And I came out of there a lot
better reader than I had even begun to be prior

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to that. And I'd been playing around with cards for
a couple of years by then. But I'm a clearvoyant,
and I can see ours and this matters. I'm also
I studied first as an energy therapist. So when you
put all of those things together, the readings would have
worked out okay anyway, but I wanted to learn how
to read cards. Now, what's the difference there? When you

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look at the image and you take that response on
behalf of another person or on behalf of yourself. It's
good fun. It's great fun. I enjoy it. It's good fun.
It's puzzling. It's puzzling something out, it's trying to work
it out. If you are looking for an understanding or

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a deeper understanding of life, then life stops being boring
or disappointing or unsatisfying. But you're also empowering yourself with
tools to do things differently, to change things to be different,
if that's what will improve your life. And then back
to the Nine of Cups. So this nine of Cups,
we can be pleased with our achievements. We can sit

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there and go, look what I've done, and we can
be generous with that, or we can be misily. We
can go, look what I've done. I've built this beautiful house,
I've bought this property. I don't want anybody else having
anything to do with it. I'm going to put a
five foot fence around it or a six foot fence
around it, and I'm going to make it look as
if nobody should come in here because it's mine. So

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it can be ownership as well. It can be I
got that mortgage. That's fantastic. That's an achievement, but it's
not an outcome because that achievement leads to twenty years
of paying a mortgage. So we need to moderate and
understand the realities of this. If you go back to
England when these cards were developed, very few people had

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loans or mortgages. The vast majority of the population we're
paying tenants rents. Whether they owned a farm or whatever,
it didn't matter. They didn't own it. It was owned
by the lord or the lady that owned the whole
village and all of the surrounding land around it. That's
when these cards were created. It was only just starting
to come to an end in the late eighteen hundreds

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to the early nineteen hundreds, but it's still an effect
to this day that Prince Charles horrible person. I will
not call them king of anything. His holdings alone areou
upon thousands upon thousands of hectares, their own whole villages.
People pay them rent just to be there. They lease
the land even if they buy a house. This is

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what it's like in England, and it's what it was
like back then. Some of these things get lost in
a modern world, but I have never forgotten that that's
what it was like when New Zealand was established. This
might seem off key, but it's not. When New Zealand
was first established, the first Governor General said we want
New Zealand to be absolutely non landlord. It's going back

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to landlord though, but it was non landlord. That means
you have a right to buy peace of land, and
New Zealanders took that with pride, the quarter acre section,
buying properties all through the whole of the from the fifties, forties, twenties,
nineteen hundreds and up. And then suddenly now everything's back
to the landlord, the landlord. Everything's got so expensive only
landlords can afford to buy it, and everybody else is

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a tenant. Again. It used to be a poor person
could buy a property. The niner cups there's a person
sitting there buying five houses, so he can rent up to. Okay,
So there's not a horrible thing about that. But it's
self oriented. And so the nine of cups has a
whole pile of nuance that on its own you may

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not get to. And so doing a card draw or
doing a three card draw may not give you the
information you need. You don't need lots of cards for
a very specific question. So if your question happens to
be how will my interview go? Not a use or no,
because they're pointless, how will my interview go? And you
drew the niner clups, you will walk out of that

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interview feeling pleased with yourself. But if you don't read
that card right, you might walk out of that interview
and thinking, yeah, that went really well, I've got this job.
Because it doesn't mean that at all. It just means
you will feel pleased about how it went. The same
if you drew something a bit more challenging, Say you
did draw for that interview, how will that interview go?
Say you drew the let's have a look at something

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like oh, the five of ones, you might get in
there and be intimidated by what the job actually entails.
That doesn't mean yes or no. To getting the job.
But if you've drawn a card on that, I would say,
swat up. Please get a bit more look of what
that job means, what it requires, because you might not
have enough knowledge when you go into that interview. And

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of course, processes everything. If you empower yourself with the cards,
you leave room for process. You can't fix everything, you
can't get everything you want, but you can do the
best you can do right. You can be the best
version of yourself. And when you apply that, you put
yourself in a position where you feel. Here we are
nine a cups. I feel good about myself. I did
the best I could and that makes me feel good

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even if you fail. So it's not a card of winning.
It's not a card of getting what you want. But
it's a card of achievement and achievement always getting something
sometimes and it's the caps. Remember a lot of times,
it's a feeling. So if it was aligned with if
we had that nine of cups and we aligned it
with just for argument's sake, we aligned it with I'm

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thinking on the fly here we aligned all with the
night Night of Pentacles, the Night of Pedicles. The umbrella
term for that would be just doing the job that
has to be done one step at a time, just
getting on with business. That could be maintenance, it could
be creation, but it's definitely a flow that works slowly, surely, steadily,

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no instant or miraculous solutions. When that card's around, and
then you've got it. With the nine of cups, we've got.
Hard work pays off, literally, is what those two cards go.
If the night comes out first, and that makes a difference.
So if the night comes out first, when I read,

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I always read. Cross referencing is what I call it.
Cross referencing has come through experience for me. I do tea, chats,
order and classes. But at the end of the day,
cross referencing is how to be a good reader. How
to be a great reader. Do you need to do that?
If you're reading for other people, it's a really good
skill to have. If you're reading professional and you're not

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doing that, you shouldn't be reading professionally. Nobody should be
paying somebody who's half asked or doesn't really know what
they're doing right. A professional, by definition, as a person
who has studied, trained, learned, and developed to an extent
that they feel a competency and can charge for their services.

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That would be a very small number getting smaller all
the time. And the online world, so always go to
somebody's website and have a look at what they know
and what they can show. Doesn't matter if you like
them or not. You want to know they're legitimate and
good at what they do. Not an instant website that's
a part of a larger thing like Etsy, that's nothing.
You go and pay your dough every month. They don't care,

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so anybody can go there. People who want reviews, if
they say, please leave me a review. I wouldn't even
go to them. It's not my job to leave you
a review. It's your job to impress me enough so
I will tell my friends about you. Please note that
that still happens in the real world. Most of my
clients come from friend referrals, by the way, or family referrals.

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I get lots of online business, but from one person
online I will end up with, whether they're online or not.
My friend told me that I could do well with you,
So understand if you want to get good what level
you want to take it to. Cross referencing for me,
at the most basic level, which I will teach you today,

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is where the first card out has a different influence
on the pairing depending on which one comes first. So
in this case we're saying if the Night of Pentrocles
comes out first, and this could change depending on reading somebody.
So it's not a meaning you would not take this
into every reading. And that's what these two cards mean.
This is just me giving you an example, and there

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would be a situation, there would be a person. The
chances are good it will be in line with this.
It's not boldly different, but there's still that bit of
an understanding that as you go through the nuance with
two cards or three cards becomes more complex. So with that,

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we've got the hard work pays off. You're going to
feel really good about it, whether it's a financial reward
or you just feel good ie, you finished the fence
today and you've been working on it for every waking moment.
If the Night of Pentacoles comes out second, and if
the Nine of Cups comes out first, we'll be struggling
with nine and nine. If the nine comes up first,

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it might be read as you know what, You're going
to feel really good about what you've got to do.
That means i'd be looking forward, I'd be saying, hey,
you know what your plan might be to do this
or to do that, and the big deal that you
will have for that will be to find yourself in
a position where you are literally seeking out a seeking

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out a way future or forward that makes you feel
better about yourself, or makes you feel good, or makes
you feel fine, or makes you feel that you're onto it.
All of that kind of stuff could be going on
for you. And then when you are doing that and
when you are looking at that, you may find yourself
in a position where you just understand that your life
is a bit different based on how you motivated yourself.

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That is, if I'm motivated by wanting to feel good
about myself or wanting to feel good about my career,
or wanting to feel good about my life, then I'm
more likely to be in a position where that's what
I create. Okay, So that's divination looking into the future.
If I'm looking into a current circumstance, or if I'm

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looking into a past, then if I saw that the
arm nine out before the night, I might say you
might have a big plan or a big idea, but
there will be a lot more work in it than
you think. Or then you hope, so it could go
down that track. That's the nuance that you pick up

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because you're always reading another person. If you're reading for others,
if you're reading professionally, if you're reading anybody else, you're
reading for another person. Whereas when you are reading for yourself,
you need to be scrupulously honest as to what this
could mean so that you can use that information and
you can create something better for yourself and feel really

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good about that and such a big, big deal when
it comes down to it, when you are looking at
cross referencing and we've got that nine of Cups and
say you put that nine of Cups with the King
of Swords, then you've got the intellect and the feeling
going together. That's some balance you'll always do better than

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anything else. And so say the night came out, nine
came out first, and the King came out second. I'd say,
you know what, you might be struggling to feel good
about what you're doing, or you might be seeking satisfaction.
You need to think your way through. You need to
think about what has worked in the past, what hasn't worked,
what will work in the future, What is it you're
really after, What is it your goals really are, and

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that's what it's calling you to do. Use your brain, Yes,
your brain. Every mother says it at some point, use
your noggin. But if that king came out first, and
then nine came out second, and a two card draw,
I would then suggest, and again this could change reading somebody,
but it will be close to this. The nuance might

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be a little bit different, or they might be a
fairly specific something going on. Then I might say something
along the lines of, you know what, you have got
the ability to create that satisfaction for yourself. It's and
you you've got the smarts for it, you've got the
knowledge for it. Maybe you just need to practice the plan,
the strategy. So if you strategize correctly, you will feel
satisfied about what you end up with. You're going to

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feel good about yourself. And here's an example of that working.
I want to buy a house. There's one here for
five hundred thousand. There's another one here for three hundred thousands.
The three hundred thousand smaller than we would really like.
The five hundred thousand is really expensive. Now the strategist,
the King of Swords, will go for the three hundred thousand,
start paying that off, build the equity, sell it and
then go for a bit of place. Now that other

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house may not be there. But it's not about that,
isn't it. It's about how you live your life till
you get there. Are you're going to be streached all
the time and not feel happy with your choice. That's
what we're looking at. If you are are putting in
say the the nine before that, king, it might be

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more that you know what You're going to be happy
no matter what you do, So just choose the best
thing for you, but make sure you've got a bit
of a plan in place, make sure you think a
little bit about it. But it's not such a worry,
it's not such a concern. Or it could be you're
overstepping and I would probably go down that track. You're overstepping.
You might be feeling all flush, you might feeling all good,

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and that could cause you to overspend on a property.
Use your nogan, think about what it is that you
want in the short term and the long term and
see how you go. Also, understanding yourself is important. The
king of the king of swords, there's an understanding. I
know who I am, I know what I need to do,
and I'm going to work out the best way to

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get that done to get where I'm going. In my
Victorian Tarroo, he's the king standing there that the man
is behind him the castle, and he's looking at a
chessboard and he's thinking. He's a thinking man. So this
is a thinking card. It's a card of using thoughts
to facilitate, facilitate your plans, ideas, your feelings. If you

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on feelings, you still need to think your way around them,
or you end up chasing a feeling all the time.
So it's one of those fascinating and interesting aspects of
reading the cards. It's nine of cubs, nine of cups,
and a little bit about cross referencing. I hope that
was working well for you today. Not to mention a
little bit of history. I'm Dorothy chalfinan