Beginners Series: Cards that don't fit

When you know your own life or how you feel or what circumstances are happening around you and you draw some cards there are times when you feel that the card doesn't fit where you are at or the position it's drawn for. That is that true.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everyone, I'm Dorothy. Welcome to Taro Crazy's Beginner's Series.
I was asked a few times this week about with
students and classes about what you do if you're making
a larger drawer and some of the cards just seem
way off base. I'm going to remind you that the

(00:24):
interpreter is way off base rather than the cards. When
I come in and I have a look and I
explain what that combination means or what that card position
brings with it, very often the light goes on. So
it tells you repeatedly it's the person needing to upgrade

(00:47):
their way. They are interpreting the cards. You are always
going to have a problem if you deem a card
to be positive or negative, and if that idea is
rooted deeply in the foundation of your reading, then you
see a card that looks positive in your current situation

(01:07):
or in a position that you struggle to understand. It's
because of that, not because of anything else. It's narrowed
the reading base, the interpretive base, the directive base of
the card to it's good or bad. It's not a
whole thing. No card is in no position. So this

(01:31):
was pertaining to the Coulter cross, and if you want
to practice and play around with a counter cross, pop
along to Dorothyholder dot com and you will look at
webinars and you will see Tero bytes spelt Taro bytes.
You will see the Calter cross along with a few

(01:53):
other things. I do have to do more, yes I do.
But they are a quick guide, a video guide, and
you can play along with them. They're free, absolutely free.
You do have to sign in, but that's to protect
my intellectual property, you understand. So when we are looking
at the Celtic cross, the question that came up quite

(02:16):
loudly was I've drawn a Celtic cross and in the
current situation, which is card number one, current status. Call
it what you like, but that's where it is. It's
where are you at right now. She had drawn the
ten of Pentacles and it was crossed with the four
of cups. And while she understood that the four of

(02:39):
cups was a crossing card, she was reading it as simply,
it's a challenge. So traditionally the crossing card was read
as what helps or hinders, So it's what helps or
gets in the way of It's not necessarily a challenge,
and I want you to really remember that, because the
idea of a challenge is something to be overcome, whereas

(03:01):
the idea of something that gets in the way of
something is a belief, an attitude, of thought process. It's
not even recognizable as a conscious thought or something that's
ahurdor so as an attitude. You may recognize an attitude
within yourself, but then when you apply that to a card,
you need to skip a beat or two. So here's

(03:24):
the of the ten of Pentacoles is tending to be
read as this is happy families, this is feasts, this
is all the wonderful stuff, And there's a mistake in there,
because essentially what we're talking about is appreciating your well being,
appreciating your family, appreciating your job, appreciating your good health.

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And we could go through a list and if you're
not happy in your life, if you're going through a
major event, if you're going through a relationship breakdown, if
you got sacked, if you've got financial issues. Very commonly
we lose appreciation for all the things that are pretty
good right instead of looking around and saying, oh, my

(04:07):
life's pretty good right now, and looking around your lounge
and thinking, you know, I really love that painting I
bought it, really loved those flowers that were picked out
of the garden. You're blind to all of it. And
that's part of the ten of Pentacles makeup because it's
well being. All of the pentacles are well being, and
well being covers all of the ratios of emotional wellbeing,

(04:31):
physical wellbeing, intellectual wellbeing. Correct. And so when we have
the ten of pentacles, yes, it can mean that you
are appreciating the good things in life that can be
excess by the way. It means you could go out
and think, oh, look, I've just won one hundred dollars,
I'm going to go out and spend all of it,
even though you owe somebody fifty bucks, instead of giving

(04:53):
them that, instead of divvying it around and making your
life feel good, you go out and blow the lot
and then when you see that person you feel guilty.
That is all in the remit of the ten of pentacoles.
So if you stop thinking of cards as good or bad,
I'll keep teaching this. If you stop thinking of cards
as good or bad, you can read the wholeness of

(05:14):
the card. If you go back to the origin of
the pips, the ten of Cups would have been the
ten of Hearts. Now look at a playing card of
the ten of Hearts and then understand that the imagery
given by some decks is designed to make you think
about things in a different way. Arthur Waite's deck, he's

(05:36):
got a couple of people holding hands. In my Victorian taro,
I've got what looks like a Victorian family sitting around
a table. There's a filigree archway leading to them that
suggests that there is abundance, there is well being. But
it's not about relationships, and it's not about you know,
I'm playing happy families. It's so much bigger than that.

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All of the pentacles are so much bigger than that,
and so are the hearts. Or because I've gone for
hearts and diamonds and I've returned to the origin of
the pitp carts, I prefer it the four of Hearts
or the four four of cups. The four of Cups
is a card of isolation. So if you think about

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the ten of Pentacles being appreciation for what you've got
in life, that's anything you know, if you've got a
good job, and if you're living in a home with
a roof over your head, it doesn't matter if that
home isn't you know, a millionaire's home, It doesn't matter
at all. That's just image rubbish. It's not even a
real thing. A roof over your head off, it's sealed,

(06:42):
if you can keep it warm. What's not to appreciate
about that? You're not on the streets, right And so
then if you've got the four four of cups in there,
if you've got the four of hearts in there, there's
an isolationist thought for that. So I can't appreciate this
in my head. Maybe I can't appreciate this because I
feel lonely or I feel separated, struggling to create an

(07:08):
abundance or a sense of abundance in my life, if
you want to think about that. Over the years of
teaching spiritual development, and there is a lot of years
in there for me, one of the things that keeps
cropping up is this idea that if I develop spiritually,
all the good things will happen for me. I will
get this and I will get that it's transactional. It's

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not how life works. You have a feeling inside yourself
that can become the teen of pentacols. You have a
feeling inside yourself that can be the four of Hearts
or the four of cups. That feeling inside of yourself
can become a conflict. And then this draw where you've
got the Celtic cross and you've got the current circumstances

(07:49):
or current status, and you've got a crossing card which
can help or hinder. You can see very clearly that
the four of Cups would hinder your ability to appreciate
where you are in life. But because that ten is there,
the ten also has the dynamic of well being and
it correct. So because it's in there, it's saying you

(08:11):
do have good things in your life, you're just not
appreciating what they are. You're focusing on the negative things.
You're focusing on the challenges, you're focusing on the difficult things.
You're focusing on the dark things. And when you run
down that track, you find yourself in a position where
your mind is determining whether you are your life is

(08:32):
abundant or not. Say, for example, you've got paid and
you've had a lot of bills, and so you pay
them all and you've got nothing left, but you don't
owe anything. You can just relax now, and all it
means is you can't go out and buy a coffee.
So what all it means is you can't go out
and have drinks with your mates. So what all it

(08:52):
means is you can't go to a restaurant. So what
you understand, those are extras and when we can afford
the extras, doing those or having those extras is kind
of nice, but not always because the next day it's
done and gone. Now, if you've got a beautiful memory
to go with that, it has a lot of value.
If it was just killing time. Right, there's anset aspect

(09:17):
in here. There are games, right, You've got online games.
For the first time in history, people are paying good
money for things that aren't things. So, for example, you're
playing I'm trying to think of a game. Maybe is
it Candy Crush? They all sell you things, right, war games.
They will sell you things. So you can go in
there and you can buy a life where you can

(09:39):
buy I don't know what the assets that you can
use within the game. You haven't spent your money on anything,
literally nothing, and then once you've used that, the money's
gone and you've got nothing to show for it. It's
like smoking cigarettes, it's like drinking alcohol. It's like going
down and buying a coffee. None of that matters if

(10:01):
you can afford it. It all matters if you can't,
or if you're in a position where you're not planning
ahead or thinking ahead, and so well being in part
of that is intellectual wellbeing right or emotional wellbeing where
you know, actually I don't really need to be putting
my money over here, I don't really need to be
spending my time spending time. Look at how we put that.

(10:24):
I spend my time on what because it's a limited resource.
Your time is your life. You don't get it back.
If you spend an hour on something that is nothing
and you don't value it, then you've just lost an
hour on nothing. When you are looking for services, which

(10:44):
is really common in my high industry, when you are
looking for services where other people have trained and have
developed a huge store of knowledge and wisdom and understanding,
and you think, I want what you've got, but I
don't want to earn it, and I don't want to
pay you for yours you don't value it. So the

(11:04):
value of life is going to be all through those pentacles, understand,
So the value is the underpinning thing. The value of
well being, and well being has a root foundation. It's
why you quite often see the trees in the cards
where pentacles or the diamonds and standard pips. It's the

(11:25):
diamonds where they are in play. You often see the trees.
You often see the earth. You often see that because
it's fundamental energy to living a good life. You can't
live a good life without it. Now, the time might
have been where you could go out in your garden
and make all your vegetables, which we still do, grow
all of your vegetables, sorry, and you can eat all

(11:47):
of those and you don't need money for that. And
you can do that every year. You can grow that,
you can make it happen. You can so on. But
the rest of it, like your power, your water, may
be your house itself, washing detergent, whatever else you might
have going on, you may need to go out noon
money to buy. And so we've got this value in

(12:07):
our exchange. Do I like spending money on dishwashing liquid?
Note side by the cheapest and I know it's going
to last me this long, And I think that's good
value because it's not my favorite thing, and I don't
want to spend a lot of money on something that
I don't value, and that's the way to really look
at those pentacols. So if you're practicing the Celtic Cross,

(12:30):
or if you're practicing any largest Oh there was one
other thing too. One of the group turned around and
she said, what question were you asking? And so here's
the deal. If you're looking at a Celtic Cross, you're
not asking a question. This asking a question thing is
so limiting. If there's something really important, really specific that

(12:51):
you need to know, sure ask a question. But if
you want to learn to interpret cards, drawing a Celtic
cross and framing it for the next month or the
next two months is ideal and then revisiting it, leave
it there, do it in decable. If you do a
Celtic cross and decable, you can date it, you can
talk or type your interpretation into the journal there, and

(13:14):
then you can come back and have a look at
it at the end of the month and see what
your interpretation did. You must interpret first. So we're seeing
all of these questions being thrown out. There's a Norman
group and read it and the moderators absolutely know nothing.
The terrible They've got a pinned message that you should

(13:35):
draw a daily card. That was never a normal thing. Ever,
it's it's never been a taro thing ever, It's never
how you've been learning them. So if you look at
slightly older readers and I'm seeing this all the time,
how did you learn your cards? I'm telling you now,
Celtic Cross. That's it. Nobody asking questions. You interpret the cards,

(13:55):
you write down, and we're lucky enough to have things
like decable where you can do it and just talk
to type and you do your interpretation first. But you
can't draw cards and then look at them and go, oh,
this card means this, this card means that, and then
come back and retrospectively look at it because your mind
will fit it into place, or say oh, that didn't

(14:17):
seem to work out because you don't know where it's
going to fit because you've nominalized the reading by doing
too many too often, or always the same question, and
so on and so on. So the Calter Cross pop
along Tarot bytes, Dorothy, holda dot com and hit the
button to have a look at it and make sure
you've got your cards, draw the cards along with it,

(14:40):
and understand this is the dynamic and when you interpret it,
the beauty of learning with something like the Calter Cross,
which I used to read psychic Fears and everywhere else,
and now I do my own nine card progressive spread
and my rolling spread. If a person's got questions, it's
actually unusual when I go to a show if somebody
with questions, I always ask, and very rarely does a

(15:04):
person say, oh, well, actually, this is what I would
like to know about. Now they've come to you. They
know they're coming for a reading. I usually have a
queue before I start, and people write their names down
for their time slots, because I'm going to be there
and I'm going to be gone, and I don't do
many I'm too snobby to do many psychic fears these days.
And so one of the things around that is understanding

(15:26):
the core nature of divination. Terror cards are too divine
a point in the future, or a better way to
live through the near future, or a better way to proceed.
Understanding what that future will look like, which comes from
your current attitude, your current experience, your current knowledge, and

(15:48):
your general habits, your tendencies, your character, your personality. They're
all in play, and they will determine tomorrow. Right now,
this moment, while you're listening to me. That's being determined
already unless you change something. And on my website since

(16:08):
nineteen ninety nine, my catchphrase has been changed your mind,
change your life, or to change your life, change your mind.
And then I moved it on to incorporate that you
don't have to be who you were taught to be.
You just don't have to be that person. But that's
a deliberate intellectual thought. Well, now we're talking about the swords.

(16:30):
Now we're talking about the spades. So this is the
reason the tarot cards work. And I'm not into the
oldest style decks anymore, to be honest, they're very very
It's not because of Victorian I created a Victorian deck.
It's that they're very dominated by a society that is

(16:52):
not even closely reflected in a modern society. So I
don't like that aspect of it. But the idea of
going into and looking at the state of man when
a life is LEVI was breaking down the major arcana
in his mind, and he did drawings of them which
have been repeated and copied, not the other way around,

(17:16):
by Arthur Waite, and then they've been detailed, they've added details.
These guys were all intellectuals and a life is Levi.
When he broke down the card seize the major arcana
as psychology. That's what he saw them as psychology. And
he believed, he believed to the roots of his little toes,

(17:40):
that if you didn't understand the symbology in the card,
you couldn't read the card. Guess what, He's absolutely right.
And so because people are not learning to understand symbology
of the cards, and yet they're still buying cards full
of symbology, they then trans that too. I'm going to

(18:01):
learn a meaning of a card, and I'm going to
recite that meaning like bibliomansei, which is you get a book,
you think of your question, you open it up, and
whatever you read first is a message. That's oracle style.
It's got nothing to do with divination. It's got nothing
to do with reading terror cards, which you read the pictures,

(18:22):
you read the images. And so if you get a set,
I see a lot of these, and they just make
me shake my head. If you're thirteen or if you're twelve, fine,
it's a game, but it's not Taro reading. And they're
not teraro cards where you've got three cats. And I
saw that at the day. There were three cats and
it was the three of Cups, and each of the

(18:42):
cats was a different color, and each of the cats
had a crown. And I'm looking at that and I'm
truly the only reason that could ever work because there's
no content or context or concept in the card imagery itself.
If you go and risk site of meaning. So you're
going to go and find somebody's meaning that they've determined

(19:04):
pertains to or is a derivative of Arthur Waite's interpretation
for the symbology of his cards, You're going to go
and apply it to everything else that you do. It
doesn't make sense. It's not reading. I was just the
other day looking at a card on Reddit. A person
had posted a card from I can't remember the name

(19:25):
of the Taro deck now, and it was the three
It was the four of Cups, I think. And there's
a naked woman. There's a chair, she could sit on it,
but she's not. She's not exposed, but she is naked.
She's got her mouth bound with bandage and above your

(19:45):
heat is bound, but not her eyes, so she knows
what she's doing. So you can look at an image
and get a lot of information when that image and
if you try to recite this is why the woman
couldn't understand it. She never understand this card because she's
trying to recite meanings that are going with that deck

(20:05):
that essentially are describing Arthur Waite's deck and his symbology,
and even he doesn't describe all of his symbology because
it's debatable. So when we come into this framework of
reading cards well, interpreting cards, well, the reader of the
card can be wrong. The cards are just the cards.

(20:26):
If you drop your cards, put them back. There's never
ever going to be a moment we're just dropping cards
on purpose or by accident. Has anything to do with
energetic exchange and intentional reading. If you're going to read
and learn cards, and you want to learn to read
the cards, start practicing the cult at cross. Stop reading
cards every single day, asking very specific questions, or just

(20:49):
drawing daily cards. They do not help you learn to
understand the card at all. I'll tell you why. Because
when you read a card and you're interpreting it and
you're divining a moment in the future, whether it's today
or tomorrow or next month, that moment must arise where
you can look back and say that interpretation was correct,

(21:10):
And how can it do that when you aren't reading
the card, you're not interpreting the card, but you're getting
to a moment in the future, and then you're going
back to look at that card and seeing where did
that fit in. Obviously your mind is going to script it,
so it's not divination and it's not retrospective reading either.
So that's my advice for learning cards, really well, that's

(21:31):
my advice for understanding if a card doesn't seem to fit,
or a group of cards don't seem to fit because
you think they're positive, which is how this girl's had
put it. This woman had put it. She said, I
always see this tea in a pinacle ass. I said,
I know. She actually wrote, I know there's not good
or bad cards, So I know she's either reading a
lot of posts on read it that are stating that.
I know, I say it a lot all the time,

(21:52):
and so she's I know that, But she said, I
still can't help but see this card as being a
positive card, and straight up the way you've developed that
within yourself deliberately. And we look for positives or we
look for negatives, depending on our state of mind, don't we,
So it becomes it is psychology and the whole precept

(22:15):
and the concept of tero is divination, and if we
keep that in mind, we can probably do a lot better.
And if you focus on developing through a larger spread
where you're essentially puzzling it out. The actual meaning of
a card does not exist. It can only have a

(22:37):
directive and an interpretation, and an interpretation is individual. Can
it be read wrong, Absolutely, but not necessarily because of
anything except you're reading a card or reciting a meaning,
and so it doesn't add up. If something doesn't add up,
look to yourself, not to the cards. If you think
I don't understand that, so I'm going to draw a

(22:58):
clarifyer get it that. Never have I drawn more or
seen more clarifying draws than I have in the last
twelve months. And I don't understand that card. So I'm
going to draw that as a clarifier. It's all it is,
is a demonstration of a lack of knowledge and understanding.
A clarifier comes only in a general reading to show

(23:19):
where the impact is, what part of the life the
impact might be. And that's it general reading, no question,
and never with five cards, two cards, three cards, it's
always going to be a ten card or a nine
card spread where a clarifier is literally being used all
that card. Let's have a look at that. I have
never seen a clarifier card be drawn for what a

(23:42):
person considers our quote unquote positive card, and that means
then you need to read that other card and understand
its impact in your life. You can't draw another card
to explain it. It just makes no sense. So make
life easier for yourself, make your learning faster, make your
development quicker, and then you'll be reading really well and

(24:04):
interpreting really well. Even if you're reading for yourself. And
I'm going to say this out loud, we all know it.
Every taroor reader, every terrorist, every professional will tell you
that it's easier to read for others than it is
to read for yourself. And I'm going to go for you.
It's easier to read for strangers than it is to
read for people you know. I don't read for people
I know. By the way, if I've got a family

(24:26):
member or a friend who asks me to do our
spread for them, I'll do it, but I just treat
it as fun. But it's quite rare because they're my
friends and my family they don't ask I wouldn't ask
them either. Who wants your family member or your friend
reading you when they know you and they're no doubt
at all, have an interpretation screwed or skewed, possibly both

(24:50):
by what they already know about you, by what they
want for you, by their jealousies and securities with you,
or whatever other complexities there are, and that relationship. Even
wanting to dominate the relationship will control your actions. Say
you're asking about a relationship and your friends reading it
and they already don't really think you're ready for one,
or they don't really like the person you're thinking or

(25:11):
considering of, or they do like that person and would
rather you didn't have them. Trust me, you're going to
get a biased, prejudiced interpretation that may not be helpful
to you or your decision making abilities. If they tend
to be a bit of a dominant friend, as such,
they may use the reading to try and tell you
what to do and to justify the fact that they're

(25:32):
doing that. So allow yourself to learn in a more
generalized way, and then you will learn to interpret the cards.
If you don't have an intention. You don't need a
question at all. I'm seeing that a lot lately too,
where a person's going to post asking about interpreting getting
some interpretation help, and then another person type, what is

(25:52):
the question? You don't need a question. In fact, the
more specific a question is, the better a reader needs
to be to get good answers. If a person asked
me a very specific question or a yes or no,
I don't draw cards for that. Why would I. I'm
a clearvoyant. I just give them the answer. Cards are
more exciting and more interesting, and that's why I do them.
I don't need them. I do oil readings. I do

(26:14):
clearvoyant readings. Call it what you like, call it psychic,
doesn't matter. I do those every single day. I do
taro when people request it. I do it because I
make terror cards. I create them because I'm interested in
the imagery as I've got a qualification as a hypnotherapist,
gained it in New Zealand, not online. We have proper schools,

(26:35):
and so when you are looking at things like that,
For me, symbolism became huge. So years ago I studied
symbolism and humans have a glossary. We all do, and
that plays into how you read your terror cards as well.
It plays into what imagery you're attracted to. And here's
a little clue for how do you choose a terror deck.

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You don't choose images because you like cats. You don't
choose a card deck because you like the idea of witches.
You don't choose a card deck because you like dark imagery.
You look at the cards, and you look at what
cards speak to you. That is, they draw something from you,

(27:15):
that they evoke something from you, and when they do that,
you know you'll be able to read them well, and
you'll be able to read them fast. When I created
the Dark Rose Divination, I was nagged and nagged and
egged to write a book, and I went, no, No,
I'm not writing a book for this deck, because the
deck itself speaks for itself. If you can't look at
an image and have an evocative understanding of what the

(27:38):
image is trying to convey, then you probably need to
find another deck. And that's really how I see cards,
because I can read most cards because when I look
at the card, I look for what it means to me,
what it brings out in me. And that's the only
individualism in reading cards, because the image is the same.

(27:59):
We're all looking at the same woman with the same
chair that isn't there. I did give it a nod
that it was a witchery deck. There was a raven
on the edge of the seat looking at the woman.
The woman couldn't see it wasn't looking at It was
deliberately looking down. And so I bought in my understanding
of witchery. Whereas a blackbird a raven in particular as

(28:20):
a messenger, it's a harbinger. It's somebody trying to get
your attention to let you know something, or it's spying
on you. Take a peck. And so when you start
understanding little aspects, I understand that because I've looked and
listened to a lot of actual witches. When I had
my shop and pook Akoy, there was a witch that
functioned out of there and she ran classes and so

(28:41):
on and so on, so we have some basic understanding.
When I created one of the cards omens in the
dark roast of anation deck, I went and I found
some creepy things for it, and one of the things
that I put in there was a bird quietly sitting
up on a post and nearly half the time when
that is drawn with students, they don't notice the bird,

(29:03):
and that to AHA, you might be missing something. And
so those are the things we're looking for as readers,
those extra little bits, those extra little aspects of an
image that evokes something from you. And one of the
most powerful things about this four of cups hearts four cups.

(29:24):
I can't remember what that was used in at the
witchery deck, which she was naked, but you couldn't see
any of her private bits, and so she's not vulnerable.
She's chosen a stance in a position it could be raw, right,
So how you interpret that will slightly shift with different
types of readings and different types of pairings. But if

(29:45):
you try to put a recital in there, I learned
this is the meaning for this card. That card itself
has none of the traditional and I don't want to
say traditionally, just like that, none of the older references,
and it shouldn't. It should be its own self. And
it was a beautiful card, by the way, and it's
very very I like the concept. So conceptual is exactly right.

(30:09):
The concept of the four of cups is isolated in
one's own head, trying to separate from others, not listening,
not taking notes. All of those things played out in
this card without one reference to any of the old
eighteen hundred style decks, not eighteen hundred style eighteen hundreds
created decks. So anyway, I hope that helps you today

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and try to cut it cross. Give it a go,
pop in here, or if you go to the webinar,
there's a chat function there. You can type in there
and I will come in there if you've got a
little bit of a problem, if you're not too sure,
I'll certainly willingly come in and join in and give
you a little bit of a hand with that. I'm
Dorothy Chow for now.