June 29, 2025 • 31 mins
Today I waffle on but have an example of what an emotionally charged layout looks like and what a modification of that would look like and the interpretation of the second.
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hey everyone, I'm Dorothy. Welcome to the Beginner's Series. Today
we are talking about emotionally charged readings, and let's get
real here. If you're emotionally charged, you probably shouldn't read
for yourself. You can be emotionally charged and go to
someone again, probably not best if they're a good friend,
because they're going to give you a biased perspective, not intentionally,
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not anger And some friends that do read TERO will
try to control your behaviors through what they think you
should do, and they will use the cards to do that.
So you have to be a bit careful there, especially
if you are in pain and you know they want
you to feel better. You know the persons themselves, So
do you think very seriously about where you get information from?
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Readit isn't it? By the way, I just had a
person telling me that telling a person through taro what
their thoughts or their feelings are is one hundred percent
not scam me unless asking for seven hundred dollars or
nine thousand dollars to reparate later to fix it. But
that's not true. You can be scammed for two dollars
and you're not going to sue for that. It's a
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common thing. Charge less, get more money, the other person
has a lower expectation, and so on and so on
and so on. On psychic sites, the average price is
three ninety nine to five ninety nine a minute. So
telling you that this person is thinking of you and
all the rest is complete bollocks. Don't even go there.
If you're doing it for yourself, let it go. Let's
move on. Reading cards can be of high value. So
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today we're talking about emotionally charged readings, which is such
an important thing because it changes what you're thinking. And
if you're angry, and if you're blaming, you have a
really serious problem. And you're going to see why in
a second. So here's the actual thing. This is a
bullying at the workplace query in the past event. It's
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in the past, so it's a retrospective reading. So retrospective
readings have only a one purpose, and I'll get round
to that. They don't have a divination purpose. If you're
reading into the past. Remember that there's no divination. There's
no looking forward. If you're asking about the forward. There's
no point in drawing a past card, is there, Unless
you're drawing a current situation card and a foundation which
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is not in the past. It's already in play, so
this is a past event. However, I'm still stuck on it.
I was treated unfairly and last week on Dierd the
Justice card, and there's two other Justice explanations through my episodes.
Pop back and have a look at all three to
get a very rounded out view. But there's also in
the beginner series which helps you understand the depth of
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it as a card, but also as a word. You know,
the basic word, what does it mean? So I was
treated unfairly and silenced. Please note that word by my
female supervisor. That means her supervisor has power over what
she said could do ins on, which is completely normal,
not abnormal. She was not the only person that bullied
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me into quitting, so we've got this bullied word used twice.
She's unfair treatment, she's angry. They were a team, which
I was suggesting it was meant to be a team.
Although I physically moved on. What happened left a deep wound,
which I hardly believe. It's a work scenario, and need
and a need for closure. So these are all targeted
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words that are to make the person reading it me
feel that she is a victim, but also to show
that she is really struggling with something while really she's
looking to understand it. But I'm going to clarify because
this is in the past, and I'm going to read
what my response was to you. You'll see the whole player.
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So will they get their karma again? Refer to last
week's episode where I talk about karma for what they did.
So she's after revenge in this draw, just so as
you get it. It's not about why, it's about revenge.
What do you see in general? Can you help me
interpret these cards which she's drawn for herself berg mistake
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when you're angry. So she drew the Aid of Swords
the Aid of Cups. That's two cards that are basically
saying you're stuck. I'd have stopped there. Oh, clearly I'm stuck.
Maybe I shouldn't be asking this question right now. Then
it goes on to the Tower, then a reverse King
of Cups, then a reverse Ten of Pinnacles, then a
Night of Swords and the Ace of Swords. Not the
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Night of Swords, sorry, it's the Nine of Swords, Six
of Swords, and the Ace of Swords. She's put the
night but anyway, the picture is definitely the Six of
Swords and then the Ace of Swords. So what we've
got here is everything she said in the cards laid
out in front of her. But she's interpreting them as
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not interpreting as such, because she didn't do an interpretation
where I was at with it. But she was looking
at that as hah, look at that. There's a tower
in there. This is awful. There's these arguments. A lot
of people don't read the the swords. There's arguments plus,
trust me, it's commonly arguments mainly because somebody's got a
different idea. We've got opposing views. And if you look
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at your card, if it's right away deck, you will
see and I've put this in my Victorian Terror as well.
The sword is piercing through the crown. There's a challenge
to authority. There's a challenge to somebody else's autonomy, their power.
That's what a crown means, right, their idea, their belief.
There's a challenge in there. Now this could lead to arguments,
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or at least resentful thinking or in the mind arguments.
How many of you done that had an argument in
your mind that never came out your mouth. So I've
asked this question. Does karma for them mean they experienced
something awful or unpleasant? What would think One would think
an understanding of karma would prevent hoping for someone else
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to suffer in some way if they didn't want that
for themselves as karma at some point in the future,
the best thing you can do for yourself is forget
it and move on. That's where I am. Alternatively, if
you're going to ask why something happened, you may need
to ensure you're in the mix for reasoning and it
is not wholly externalized, because everything about that first thing
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was externalized. They did this? Are they going to get karma?
Were the things that stood out for me? This can
be difficult type of reading. You might want to try
progressive spreads so you can see your connection to events. Partly,
just to be clear, people will send me their spreads
or their layouts and they are asking for instruction and interpretation.
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If it was on a social media I would probably
just give the instruction, or if it was really serious
for them, I might do an interpretation. But this is
where I went with this one. Anyway, this can be
difficult type of reading. You might want to try a
progressive spread, and you can find that on my website,
Dorothy Holda dot com, so you can see your connection
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to events as they played out. It is a retrospective reading,
and you aren't really looking for closure. Closure happens when
we understand and accept our part and past events and
decide to move on knowing more than we did, or
knowing how we can be different or respond differently in
the future. Essentially, for this reading, you have mixed feelings
and desired How do I get closure? Will they get calmer?
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Assuming that means something bad for them that they in
the query can't find an answer for individuals, but you
assume there was collusion. It is work, but you mentioned
deep wound followed what you see in general I gathered there.
I would suggest the layout isn't relevant with so much
going on and you're questioning and angsty feelings. Please note
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I do not pull my punches. If a person wants
good information, good information is far more important than catering
or enabling negativities. I'm not sorry that she feels this way.
I didn't cause it. I'm just here to help you
find a solution. That's it for anybody. By the way,
I'm here to help you find solutions. I'm a solution
based therapist. Do you clear your mind and simply ask
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why events paid out the way they did. That's the
way to ask this type of retrospective query, leaving out
the bullying aspect, which is subjective unless they held your
gangst the wall and demanded lunch money, and it is
calling yourself bullied presumes they tended to bully, and that's
not really always the truth. It can be, but it
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isn't always. It doesn't mean they were nice, but could
mean that their personal archetypes are difficult or what made
them target you if bullying was indeed more than one person.
Is part of asking a more open why, allowing for
your own part, not fault or blame, and the scenario
if you do the progressive spread, I would love to
see it. So she's come back at me and email
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thank you for your thoughtful response. You're right that my
reading was emotionally charged. This experience left a deep impact.
She's changed her wording, and this is important to understand.
It's not a word. It's not a wound, sorry, it's
an impact, and that I'm on board with a wound
is something completely completely trauma and different impact though right,
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she said, I suppose I was seeking a sense of
justice more than pure insight. I don't necessarily wish harm
on anyone, but I do wish for a sense of
blue or restoration, same thing. So you can change the word.
Restoration means they should feel in some way how I felt,
which means you are wishing them damnage. You were wishing
them harm. Whether you want to admit it or not,
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doesn't change that's what it is. Restoration can be a
financial remuneration if you felt you were treated unfairly and dismissed.
But she quit, so that isn't really going to play
into the game. To note, she says she was silence,
but she didn't go above the head of the supervisor
to deal with the situation either. That either meant she
didn't have a leak to stand on she didn't feel
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confident enough to do that either way. That comes back
to herself. So part of her anger is the fact
that she felt disempowered. That's the way I'm reading it.
She goes, I really like a suggestion of doing a
progressive spread and asking why things unfolded the way they
did without attaching so much weight. So she pulled seven
cards at progressive spread as nine cards, but I went
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with it anyway, And then she's told me that cards.
The next cards are completely different. She's drawn the Hanged
Man and the Ten of Swords. She may have deliberately
drawn the Majores, in which case that's disturbing because she's
deliberately altered the spread. But the handed Man and the
Ten of Swords, the Moon and the seven of Ones reversed,
the three of Swords and the Hermit reversed, and the
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eight of Pentacols. Thanks a gown gain for grounding me.
I want to hear what you think of this spread,
So my response is thanks, But a word to the wise,
restoration or justice is usually damage. You'll never hear me
say anything different in some way to another person. If
we want them to feel the way we felt, what
is justice? After all? To the person who feels they
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were treated unfairly. The hanged Man with the ten suggests
blaming or unwillingness to take responsibility. Two people can do
this in relationships. This is at the start, is at
the core. So it's the first cards out for a
seven card we're going to put that as a core thing.
Quite often when a person will ask queries, they can
draw as many cards and I'll see the whole lot
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in the first two cards or the first cards sometimes,
And that's reading. So it's not reading a static meaning
of the card. It's reading the card in relation to
the person. It's clear voyance. It's already all wrapped in.
So when you see people doing that, it's never going
to be able to You're never going to achieve that
just by interpreting the card, and you will never get
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even close to it by reading a static meaning out
of somebody's book. So we've got this combination here in
day to day language. This could be selfishness, which we
all express at times, but can also become a sticking
point where one or both parties don't see or empathize
with the experience of the other person and the relationship.
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Resentment is a good word which brings attitude with it
and probably passive aggression. Now, passive aggression is an important
thing because what it does is when we are in
a relationship at work, otherwise we get the get out
of jail free card because we didn't say or do
anything overtly wrong. It comes out in attitude and That
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attitude could be things like, I know you don't want
to hear. This is passive aggression. By the way you
are predetermining and putting the other person on their defensive.
It's passive aggressive. We have it with attitude. If a
person asked us, say we're at work, and they say
i'd like this done by ten o'clock, and we bristle
because we don't really like them, and we'll go, sure, fine,
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that's passive aggression. We haven't said anything wrong, but we've
given them attitude. Rolling your eyes as passive aggression. There's
a lot in that passive aggressive stuff that people need
to get a handle on. It's a woman's tool and weapon,
and it's one that men will tell you they dislike
the most it is. It is a get out of
jail free card when people use it. Men do use
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it too. Women use it more though. The Moon and
the seven represent the unfolding internal conflict or difficult thoughts
finding their way into the world, hoping the other person
or other person will get it, or either persons will
get it, but the clues may have been too obscure
or they didn't care enough. Again, more often than not,
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having done a gazillion relationship readings would root for the
former not expressing reality or the essence of a problem.
That can lead to spats or snide type remarks that
reflect one's thoughts. Now, this is common as well, where
a person is sort of critical in their delivery of information.
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Can you please get this done on time has a
whole world of inference that we all understand. It suggests
that you didn't often get work done on time, or
you were often late, or whatever it was. But it
sounds kind of polite because they put the word please
in there. Again, it's still passive aggressive, but you might
bristle as a person receiving that and think, well, I'm
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not usually late, but natural fact you might often be late.
So your first thought is defensive. That's where that goes.
It can be a defensive peering, which brings its own
communication issues. In short, I would see this peering as
diffusing to protect vulnerabilities. This becomes an expression of distrust
with another person, which can't help but be picked up on.
It may present as one or both parties just having
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no clue why things are difficult, but it is in
their power to find out and work it out. But
they don't. When we protect ourselves, we are always going
to falter in relationships. That's career. Otherwise, all relationships. It
doesn't make it one's fault per se, but we are
all an equal part of every relationship we engage in.
As a fact finding mission, it would be valuable information
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about how to engage more constructively or creatively in the future.
After a breakdown, this evolves into what you are doing
seeking and why this matters, because if it's the other
person and the unfolding, not necessarily the recipient or both
of them. If the other person is feeling like that,
copying attitude from a subordinate, they are not going to
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be gentle or nice, to be clipped, and may be
passive aggressive. Because there's all sorts of laws and companies
today about what you can and can't say to an
employee or to a person under you. These restrictions invite
what I would call subjective type communication, which are really
terrible and they're not helpful to anyone. But it also
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means that the supervisor wasn't managing the situation very well
because it continued on. But if there's more than one
person involved, that doesn't mean they're colluding It's really important
to look at the common denominator, and if that's yourself,
I'm the common denominator and I'm having problems with a
person over here and a person over there at work,
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Then what am I doing? What am I saying? What
of my attitude creating? If they are really sick of thieves,
if they really genuine, good quality, good friends, or they
work really well together, what have you done, said or
behave What have you implied or given the impression of
that has made them tune again to trust me? It
doesn't matter if the nice people or not nice people.
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This is happening with you. Maybe you need to modify
your approach to difficult people, which I mentioned at the start.
This happens. It's the workplace. You're not there because you're
like each other. And then we get into the final
part of the play. The hermit reversed and the eight
suggest that one or both parties well and truly knew
that things had to change or the relationship had to end. Interestingly,
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this is the effort and work required that neither or
one party wanted to put in. I say that because
we could be talking about this person and the other
person or the other person. Any one of these cards
could refer to both parties or either party, and in conjunction,
it doesn't matter which party is which. The problem is
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still up to any individual to resolve one way or another.
You could simply not care, for example, choose not to
care and carry on and things will either brush by
or you'll decide, you know what, this isn't really my people,
this isn't really my place, So I'm going to start
looking for another job and do that in your own
time with an exit strategy. That tower can be an
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exit strategy, just saying so they didn't want to put
in the effort because that's where the eight and the
reverse hermit comes. That means they know because the hermit
is always the hermit. When reading reversals, the original card
inference is still in play, so you need to look
at whether it's helping or hindering. That it's in reverse
and it isn't necessarily straight out negative. But with that eight,
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it suggests, oh okay, cookie, nobody wanted to put in
the work or the effort or deal with it, so
they've gone to whatever their corners are and come out fighting.
The hermit is that in and knowing that doesn't require
external validation. So maybe this person wanted validation for good
work and stow it as criticism if they didn't get that,
which is pretty common as well. Bosses do not need
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to say great job for doing your job. They really don't.
Unless you do it exceptionally well, then it's a wise
thing for them to do, because that feeds the carrot
to encourage you to keep doing that, to keep working harder,
to keep working longer hours. Just saying the opposite is
true with constant external evaluations. That is, constant evaluations by
a supervisor that is set up to let you know
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that you won't be getting a bonus, or to let
you know that you could do better no matter what
you've been doing. The idea is to try and milk
more out of you, and they are set up for
that I've seen. The question is with true intention, the
individuals simply shouldn't need that validation if they are true
to themselves. That means, if you know you're doing a
good job, why do you need somebody to tell you.
Think about that just for a second, and reverse. The
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hermit can be needy and want another person to make
everything okay. Not a fear or justified desire at anytime.
So this could be that the individual doesn't really want
to put in the effort to resolve whatever the issues are,
but they're hoping the other person will step in. And
if it's a supervisor, then they are hoping that the
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supervisor will just sort themselves out because they're in a
higher position, or will accommodate them. If it's the individual
asking the question and it's the supervisor that is the
hermit reversed with the eight, then it's suggesting that that
person is just hoping you'll pick up your game get
yourself sorted out, and they're not prepared to help you
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do that. They may not be that kind of a person,
or they could be wrong, or they could actually be
a bully. But I say, but anybody with power can
appear to be a bully to somebody who's needy as well.
So it's a bit of a something the person needs
to determine for themselves. The presence of three majors is
a call to introspection, as the majors are the underpinning
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energy that we used to grow spiritually and or personally.
The hanged man, the Moon, and the Hermit are reversed
a tend toward a life lesson by not acknowledging one's
own foibles while also not using what we know inside
ourselves to be true. We can hide behind the fudging
or fog of the moon, yet rail at the world
at large, and frustration is a primal part of ourselves
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seeks out answers we don't really want or maybe can't accept.
The development of these three is always accept our contributions
to the things that go wrong, even if the contribution
is simply bad timing or an attitude of discrumplement, which
can be easier than finding the courage to communicate effectively, apologize,
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or acknowledge what we are doing that we can change,
whether verbally or by action. In other words, to change
something is to admit something. The danger is in the avoidance,
which gives power over to others, who then make judgments
and decisions that affect us in ways that we can't
always enjoy. The hermit stays as the key to yourself,
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the need to know and remember that moment when you
could have done things differently, made a different choice, and
that could have been at the very start by choosing
the job, or at least acknowledge your own part in
your own life, and so there we go. Have not
yet heard back from that, but if you'd like to
hear the response to that when it comes in, because
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it's pretty recent, then pop a comments. You need to
click through to spreaker if you want to pop a comment,
I'd love to hear the response to that, and then
of course I will pop the response into the comments
for reading. So that whole experience was to show you
the total different quality of the cards drawn at the beginning,
the angsty cards. They were all literally playing out her
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thoughts in her anger and her want for restorative justice.
Restorative justice in a court of law is not the
same as restorative justice to people who have genuinely not
really done you any harm. They certainly haven't done anything illegal,
and it's subjective as to what level of anything is
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going on there. And that means to say, there is
bullying in the work, and if you are suffering that,
then get in touch with any bullying group that might
be in your area, not on social media. Good grief.
So there's just about every country I'm aware of has
hotlines for assistance with things like that. But also if
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it's not your place, if it's not a place you
enjoy being in. Use the tower card. Here we go
as an exit strategy and the Victorian terror. I've got
a woman doing a swan dive out of the tower,
out of the tower, and I've got rats leaving. Rats
leave our thinking ship. This woman's chosen to leave on
her own terms, and that's why I put her in there.
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She's swan diving. She looks amazing. Now she might be
enjoying the process of the destruction that's going on behind her,
but it can also represent that person who walks past destruction.
It reminds me of those movies, you know, where you've
got the guys who set the explosive and they walk
out all nice and cool, and this massive explosion goes
behind and that should really seen them flying at least
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a few hundred yards and maybe do them a lot
of damage or burn their backs. But they walk out
of there and they look cool, calm and collected. So
that's the potential of the tower card as well. There,
And I mention it because it was in her first drawer,
if you recall me mentioning those cards. So all of
these things can be read in ways that determine proactive
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and assertive action into the future. An assertive isn't combative
or confrontational. It's simply forward motion. It's saying I'm going
to handle this, I'm going to deal with this, I'm
going to talk about this, I'm going to get this
out of my way, rather than waiting for life events
to pull you down into a position that's quite hot.
In fact, I'm always the one that suggests take action first.
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If this girl had come to me, come to me,
sorry bad English, come to me in the very beginning
of this, she may have been able to navigate her
way through it with the advice of how to manage
these people. That's all a reading, by the way, Read
this person, read that person, this is where they're at.
And I could even tell her it's never going to
get better. You might want to your personalities are all
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too different or whatever it is, but there may have
been a solution. So when you start addressing these things.
Although that was a retrospective reading, you can start right
at the very beginning, notwith oh what I hope they
get their come up and because they made me feel bad,
come up and seeing the word justice, by the way,
in Layman's terms, when it's used the way that we
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use it, or calmer, or you could sit there and go,
you know what, I'm learning how to manage people. I'm
learning how to manage difficult people because that's always going
to be a part of our lives somewhere at some point.
So how do I do that effectively? So I'm comfortable
and I'm happy. So it could be that a person's
too sensitive, and there is such things it's too sensitive
because that makes everybody else it fault. I'm a victim
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if I'm too sensitive. Or it could be that the
individual needs to accept other personalities and just do their job.
And then if they are late, if they have got
a tendency to not do things correctly, if they are
needy and needing a lot of praise, they might want
to learn how not to need that because that will
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always cost them in life. That means they will be
seeking a partner that always tells them how good they are,
even when they're not good at something, and so they
end up with false relationships and they can't bond deeply.
So these are all aspects that you can discover using
TERO when you include yourself and a query, when you
include an understanding that you have a partner every part
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of your own life. I was sitting there one day,
minding my own business, and this was in Monganuy in
far north of New Zealand, and I'm enjoying the harbor.
This woman walks up to me with a pup who's
not looking happy at all. So I did what I
usually do with pups. I sat there, stood there. Basically,
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I was standing stood there, and I just said, oh,
have your pup just had surgery or something? And she said,
he's got a chronic disorder. He's on meds and we've
just been to the vet. Da da da, da da.
And I should have just said, see how we go here.
I should have just said I'm really sorry to hear that.
I hope he'll be better. And she said are you
Dorothy and I said, yes, I am. She said, oh,
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there was a woman who said that I should talk
to you and maybe talk about the dog, or maybe
you could help my mistake. Ego must have kicked in
and I said, oh, do you want some energy for
the dog. Because I knew all of this was highly
suspicious because of where I was standing. She must have
been talking to somebody who saw me there, and that
means she deliberately sought me out. It wasn't an accidental meeting,
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so she wanted a freebie, so I didn't care too
put her dog. So I gave the dog energy therapy.
And you could see the improvement. I'm not just saying it.
You can always see the improvement immediately. And as soon
as he started looking normal and wandering around and he
wasn't sort of limping and dragging his hit more leg
she turned around and says, oh, he comes spontaneously right often.
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I just know where that kind of comment is. It's like,
I wanted you to do it, but I can't give
any credit for it. I don't need the credit for it.
She could have said nothing, I'd have been happy. Then
she started talking about her own illness and about how
her sister gets a whole lot of government assistance and
she gets none. We live in New Zealand, by the way,
everybody with a chronic disease gets government assistants. We don't
pay for hospital visits. We don't pay more than I
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think it's sixty dollars a month. You get allowance for
ongoing medication, it's probably one hundred and thirty. Now I
don't know I don't use medications, but it's fairly high
that you get all of that free if it's in
a certain range. That is to say, they are disorders,
are not elective. That's not something you just want. It's
something your doctor has said you must have. And you
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can get it even cheaper than that. And you can
claim hardship and get everything free if you're really onto it.
If you're on a benefit, if you're on a pension,
there's no real charges. I think it's twenty dollars to
go to a doctor if you're on a pension, and
then if you can't pay that, it's the government will
pay it for you. At the end of all of
it we're talking about she starts going on and on
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and on, not about her own disorder or about anything,
but I'm recognizing that, oh, now that her dog's perked up,
she wants something for herself. But she's complaining and complaining
and complaining, and I got annoyed, and so in the end,
I said, you know, I've been standing here too long
with us. I've got to go. And she kept on
going and going and going, and I'm asking myself, my
whole mind is going, why don't I just cross the road,
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git out of here. And I got absolutely annoyed with her, said, look,
I've just got to get out. I can't even handle
this conversation. Went across the road, had a check to
a friend, not about her, because that's not what you do.
If you're upseat or angry about something, you have a
lighthearted chat. And I chose to beyond purpose. We had
a joke, we had to talk about some food. We
had to talk about hunting, which here and a hubby do,
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and fishing, which I do and they do, and so
it was a really nice chat. Half an hour later
I wandered off and it was all behind me, perfectly happy.
In retrospection, I stayed too long. As soon as I
realized right at the beginning that she was using me
if you like, or had deliberately manipulated events. As soon
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as I've worked with a little pup and she'd gone, oh,
you know, he does have spontaneous resolutions. I should have
walked on. Then I should have said, oh, well, that's nice,
see you later. But I didn't, and so by staying
in that it became this awkward, difficult, unpleasant conversation that
I wasn't enjoying at all in a country. Rohno, you
can't complain about a system that charges you nothing. That's
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just stupid. So here we are. And that said, understanding
that the tower can mean making an exit strategy, and
justice doesn't mean somebody getting their come uppance, and all
of those things put together, there's a point of origin,
which is me, not her. There's no point in being
angry or upset with her, feeling like she did all
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these bad things when I know I got upset because
of that, But it was me that state. I'm Dorothy
Chow for now. I became a soul jerking of all
these words down climbing, nomber, those nasty bees at tilting me.
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Oh lord, but I'm go man. You did me for her.
It doesn't take me for the list may have a
song that's makes you listening. You day start to live,
Oh Lord, because I go and babar view then flames
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going to show you what a le breath temple change
that your foot on me? God, I wouldn't change, but
I grew on theime will never bee you want you
want to, despite your despite trying to get away on
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my show. Durst post
Hey everyone, I'm Dorothy. Welcome to the Beginner's Series. Today
we are talking about emotionally charged readings, and let's get
real here. If you're emotionally charged, you probably shouldn't read
for yourself. You can be emotionally charged and go to
someone again, probably not best if they're a good friend,
because they're going to give you a biased perspective, not intentionally,
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not anger And some friends that do read TERO will
try to control your behaviors through what they think you
should do, and they will use the cards to do that.
So you have to be a bit careful there, especially
if you are in pain and you know they want
you to feel better. You know the persons themselves, So
do you think very seriously about where you get information from?
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Readit isn't it? By the way, I just had a
person telling me that telling a person through taro what
their thoughts or their feelings are is one hundred percent
not scam me unless asking for seven hundred dollars or
nine thousand dollars to reparate later to fix it. But
that's not true. You can be scammed for two dollars
and you're not going to sue for that. It's a
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common thing. Charge less, get more money, the other person
has a lower expectation, and so on and so on
and so on. On psychic sites, the average price is
three ninety nine to five ninety nine a minute. So
telling you that this person is thinking of you and
all the rest is complete bollocks. Don't even go there.
If you're doing it for yourself, let it go. Let's
move on. Reading cards can be of high value. So
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today we're talking about emotionally charged readings, which is such
an important thing because it changes what you're thinking. And
if you're angry, and if you're blaming, you have a
really serious problem. And you're going to see why in
a second. So here's the actual thing. This is a
bullying at the workplace query in the past event. It's
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in the past, so it's a retrospective reading. So retrospective
readings have only a one purpose, and I'll get round
to that. They don't have a divination purpose. If you're
reading into the past. Remember that there's no divination. There's
no looking forward. If you're asking about the forward. There's
no point in drawing a past card, is there, Unless
you're drawing a current situation card and a foundation which
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is not in the past. It's already in play, so
this is a past event. However, I'm still stuck on it.
I was treated unfairly and last week on Dierd the
Justice card, and there's two other Justice explanations through my episodes.
Pop back and have a look at all three to
get a very rounded out view. But there's also in
the beginner series which helps you understand the depth of
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it as a card, but also as a word. You know,
the basic word, what does it mean? So I was
treated unfairly and silenced. Please note that word by my
female supervisor. That means her supervisor has power over what
she said could do ins on, which is completely normal,
not abnormal. She was not the only person that bullied
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me into quitting, so we've got this bullied word used twice.
She's unfair treatment, she's angry. They were a team, which
I was suggesting it was meant to be a team.
Although I physically moved on. What happened left a deep wound,
which I hardly believe. It's a work scenario, and need
and a need for closure. So these are all targeted
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words that are to make the person reading it me
feel that she is a victim, but also to show
that she is really struggling with something while really she's
looking to understand it. But I'm going to clarify because
this is in the past, and I'm going to read
what my response was to you. You'll see the whole player.
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So will they get their karma again? Refer to last
week's episode where I talk about karma for what they did.
So she's after revenge in this draw, just so as
you get it. It's not about why, it's about revenge.
What do you see in general? Can you help me
interpret these cards which she's drawn for herself berg mistake
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when you're angry. So she drew the Aid of Swords
the Aid of Cups. That's two cards that are basically
saying you're stuck. I'd have stopped there. Oh, clearly I'm stuck.
Maybe I shouldn't be asking this question right now. Then
it goes on to the Tower, then a reverse King
of Cups, then a reverse Ten of Pinnacles, then a
Night of Swords and the Ace of Swords. Not the
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Night of Swords, sorry, it's the Nine of Swords, Six
of Swords, and the Ace of Swords. She's put the
night but anyway, the picture is definitely the Six of
Swords and then the Ace of Swords. So what we've
got here is everything she said in the cards laid
out in front of her. But she's interpreting them as
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not interpreting as such, because she didn't do an interpretation
where I was at with it. But she was looking
at that as hah, look at that. There's a tower
in there. This is awful. There's these arguments. A lot
of people don't read the the swords. There's arguments plus,
trust me, it's commonly arguments mainly because somebody's got a
different idea. We've got opposing views. And if you look
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at your card, if it's right away deck, you will
see and I've put this in my Victorian Terror as well.
The sword is piercing through the crown. There's a challenge
to authority. There's a challenge to somebody else's autonomy, their power.
That's what a crown means, right, their idea, their belief.
There's a challenge in there. Now this could lead to arguments,
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or at least resentful thinking or in the mind arguments.
How many of you done that had an argument in
your mind that never came out your mouth. So I've
asked this question. Does karma for them mean they experienced
something awful or unpleasant? What would think One would think
an understanding of karma would prevent hoping for someone else
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to suffer in some way if they didn't want that
for themselves as karma at some point in the future,
the best thing you can do for yourself is forget
it and move on. That's where I am. Alternatively, if
you're going to ask why something happened, you may need
to ensure you're in the mix for reasoning and it
is not wholly externalized, because everything about that first thing
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was externalized. They did this? Are they going to get karma?
Were the things that stood out for me? This can
be difficult type of reading. You might want to try
progressive spreads so you can see your connection to events. Partly,
just to be clear, people will send me their spreads
or their layouts and they are asking for instruction and interpretation.
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If it was on a social media I would probably
just give the instruction, or if it was really serious
for them, I might do an interpretation. But this is
where I went with this one. Anyway, this can be
difficult type of reading. You might want to try a
progressive spread, and you can find that on my website,
Dorothy Holda dot com, so you can see your connection
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to events as they played out. It is a retrospective reading,
and you aren't really looking for closure. Closure happens when
we understand and accept our part and past events and
decide to move on knowing more than we did, or
knowing how we can be different or respond differently in
the future. Essentially, for this reading, you have mixed feelings
and desired How do I get closure? Will they get calmer?
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Assuming that means something bad for them that they in
the query can't find an answer for individuals, but you
assume there was collusion. It is work, but you mentioned
deep wound followed what you see in general I gathered there.
I would suggest the layout isn't relevant with so much
going on and you're questioning and angsty feelings. Please note
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I do not pull my punches. If a person wants
good information, good information is far more important than catering
or enabling negativities. I'm not sorry that she feels this way.
I didn't cause it. I'm just here to help you
find a solution. That's it for anybody. By the way,
I'm here to help you find solutions. I'm a solution
based therapist. Do you clear your mind and simply ask
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why events paid out the way they did. That's the
way to ask this type of retrospective query, leaving out
the bullying aspect, which is subjective unless they held your
gangst the wall and demanded lunch money, and it is
calling yourself bullied presumes they tended to bully, and that's
not really always the truth. It can be, but it
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isn't always. It doesn't mean they were nice, but could
mean that their personal archetypes are difficult or what made
them target you if bullying was indeed more than one person.
Is part of asking a more open why, allowing for
your own part, not fault or blame, and the scenario
if you do the progressive spread, I would love to
see it. So she's come back at me and email
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thank you for your thoughtful response. You're right that my
reading was emotionally charged. This experience left a deep impact.
She's changed her wording, and this is important to understand.
It's not a word. It's not a wound, sorry, it's
an impact, and that I'm on board with a wound
is something completely completely trauma and different impact though right,
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she said, I suppose I was seeking a sense of
justice more than pure insight. I don't necessarily wish harm
on anyone, but I do wish for a sense of
blue or restoration, same thing. So you can change the word.
Restoration means they should feel in some way how I felt,
which means you are wishing them damnage. You were wishing
them harm. Whether you want to admit it or not,
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doesn't change that's what it is. Restoration can be a
financial remuneration if you felt you were treated unfairly and dismissed.
But she quit, so that isn't really going to play
into the game. To note, she says she was silence,
but she didn't go above the head of the supervisor
to deal with the situation either. That either meant she
didn't have a leak to stand on she didn't feel
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confident enough to do that either way. That comes back
to herself. So part of her anger is the fact
that she felt disempowered. That's the way I'm reading it.
She goes, I really like a suggestion of doing a
progressive spread and asking why things unfolded the way they
did without attaching so much weight. So she pulled seven
cards at progressive spread as nine cards, but I went
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with it anyway, And then she's told me that cards.
The next cards are completely different. She's drawn the Hanged
Man and the Ten of Swords. She may have deliberately
drawn the Majores, in which case that's disturbing because she's
deliberately altered the spread. But the handed Man and the
Ten of Swords, the Moon and the seven of Ones reversed,
the three of Swords and the Hermit reversed, and the
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eight of Pentacols. Thanks a gown gain for grounding me.
I want to hear what you think of this spread,
So my response is thanks, But a word to the wise,
restoration or justice is usually damage. You'll never hear me
say anything different in some way to another person. If
we want them to feel the way we felt, what
is justice? After all? To the person who feels they
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were treated unfairly. The hanged Man with the ten suggests
blaming or unwillingness to take responsibility. Two people can do
this in relationships. This is at the start, is at
the core. So it's the first cards out for a
seven card we're going to put that as a core thing.
Quite often when a person will ask queries, they can
draw as many cards and I'll see the whole lot
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in the first two cards or the first cards sometimes,
And that's reading. So it's not reading a static meaning
of the card. It's reading the card in relation to
the person. It's clear voyance. It's already all wrapped in.
So when you see people doing that, it's never going
to be able to You're never going to achieve that
just by interpreting the card, and you will never get
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even close to it by reading a static meaning out
of somebody's book. So we've got this combination here in
day to day language. This could be selfishness, which we
all express at times, but can also become a sticking
point where one or both parties don't see or empathize
with the experience of the other person and the relationship.
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Resentment is a good word which brings attitude with it
and probably passive aggression. Now, passive aggression is an important
thing because what it does is when we are in
a relationship at work, otherwise we get the get out
of jail free card because we didn't say or do
anything overtly wrong. It comes out in attitude and That
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attitude could be things like, I know you don't want
to hear. This is passive aggression. By the way you
are predetermining and putting the other person on their defensive.
It's passive aggressive. We have it with attitude. If a
person asked us, say we're at work, and they say
i'd like this done by ten o'clock, and we bristle
because we don't really like them, and we'll go, sure, fine,
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that's passive aggression. We haven't said anything wrong, but we've
given them attitude. Rolling your eyes as passive aggression. There's
a lot in that passive aggressive stuff that people need
to get a handle on. It's a woman's tool and weapon,
and it's one that men will tell you they dislike
the most it is. It is a get out of
jail free card when people use it. Men do use
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it too. Women use it more though. The Moon and
the seven represent the unfolding internal conflict or difficult thoughts
finding their way into the world, hoping the other person
or other person will get it, or either persons will
get it, but the clues may have been too obscure
or they didn't care enough. Again, more often than not,
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having done a gazillion relationship readings would root for the
former not expressing reality or the essence of a problem.
That can lead to spats or snide type remarks that
reflect one's thoughts. Now, this is common as well, where
a person is sort of critical in their delivery of information.
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Can you please get this done on time has a
whole world of inference that we all understand. It suggests
that you didn't often get work done on time, or
you were often late, or whatever it was. But it
sounds kind of polite because they put the word please
in there. Again, it's still passive aggressive, but you might
bristle as a person receiving that and think, well, I'm
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not usually late, but natural fact you might often be late.
So your first thought is defensive. That's where that goes.
It can be a defensive peering, which brings its own
communication issues. In short, I would see this peering as
diffusing to protect vulnerabilities. This becomes an expression of distrust
with another person, which can't help but be picked up on.
It may present as one or both parties just having
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no clue why things are difficult, but it is in
their power to find out and work it out. But
they don't. When we protect ourselves, we are always going
to falter in relationships. That's career. Otherwise, all relationships. It
doesn't make it one's fault per se, but we are
all an equal part of every relationship we engage in.
As a fact finding mission, it would be valuable information
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about how to engage more constructively or creatively in the future.
After a breakdown, this evolves into what you are doing
seeking and why this matters, because if it's the other
person and the unfolding, not necessarily the recipient or both
of them. If the other person is feeling like that,
copying attitude from a subordinate, they are not going to
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be gentle or nice, to be clipped, and may be
passive aggressive. Because there's all sorts of laws and companies
today about what you can and can't say to an
employee or to a person under you. These restrictions invite
what I would call subjective type communication, which are really
terrible and they're not helpful to anyone. But it also
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means that the supervisor wasn't managing the situation very well
because it continued on. But if there's more than one
person involved, that doesn't mean they're colluding It's really important
to look at the common denominator, and if that's yourself,
I'm the common denominator and I'm having problems with a
person over here and a person over there at work,
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Then what am I doing? What am I saying? What
of my attitude creating? If they are really sick of thieves,
if they really genuine, good quality, good friends, or they
work really well together, what have you done, said or
behave What have you implied or given the impression of
that has made them tune again to trust me? It
doesn't matter if the nice people or not nice people.
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This is happening with you. Maybe you need to modify
your approach to difficult people, which I mentioned at the start.
This happens. It's the workplace. You're not there because you're
like each other. And then we get into the final
part of the play. The hermit reversed and the eight
suggest that one or both parties well and truly knew
that things had to change or the relationship had to end. Interestingly,
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this is the effort and work required that neither or
one party wanted to put in. I say that because
we could be talking about this person and the other
person or the other person. Any one of these cards
could refer to both parties or either party, and in conjunction,
it doesn't matter which party is which. The problem is
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still up to any individual to resolve one way or another.
You could simply not care, for example, choose not to
care and carry on and things will either brush by
or you'll decide, you know what, this isn't really my people,
this isn't really my place, So I'm going to start
looking for another job and do that in your own
time with an exit strategy. That tower can be an
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exit strategy, just saying so they didn't want to put
in the effort because that's where the eight and the
reverse hermit comes. That means they know because the hermit
is always the hermit. When reading reversals, the original card
inference is still in play, so you need to look
at whether it's helping or hindering. That it's in reverse
and it isn't necessarily straight out negative. But with that eight,
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it suggests, oh okay, cookie, nobody wanted to put in
the work or the effort or deal with it, so
they've gone to whatever their corners are and come out fighting.
The hermit is that in and knowing that doesn't require
external validation. So maybe this person wanted validation for good
work and stow it as criticism if they didn't get that,
which is pretty common as well. Bosses do not need
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to say great job for doing your job. They really don't.
Unless you do it exceptionally well, then it's a wise
thing for them to do, because that feeds the carrot
to encourage you to keep doing that, to keep working harder,
to keep working longer hours. Just saying the opposite is
true with constant external evaluations. That is, constant evaluations by
a supervisor that is set up to let you know
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that you won't be getting a bonus, or to let
you know that you could do better no matter what
you've been doing. The idea is to try and milk
more out of you, and they are set up for
that I've seen. The question is with true intention, the
individuals simply shouldn't need that validation if they are true
to themselves. That means, if you know you're doing a
good job, why do you need somebody to tell you.
Think about that just for a second, and reverse. The
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hermit can be needy and want another person to make
everything okay. Not a fear or justified desire at anytime.
So this could be that the individual doesn't really want
to put in the effort to resolve whatever the issues are,
but they're hoping the other person will step in. And
if it's a supervisor, then they are hoping that the
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supervisor will just sort themselves out because they're in a
higher position, or will accommodate them. If it's the individual
asking the question and it's the supervisor that is the
hermit reversed with the eight, then it's suggesting that that
person is just hoping you'll pick up your game get
yourself sorted out, and they're not prepared to help you
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do that. They may not be that kind of a person,
or they could be wrong, or they could actually be
a bully. But I say, but anybody with power can
appear to be a bully to somebody who's needy as well.
So it's a bit of a something the person needs
to determine for themselves. The presence of three majors is
a call to introspection, as the majors are the underpinning
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energy that we used to grow spiritually and or personally.
The hanged man, the Moon, and the Hermit are reversed
a tend toward a life lesson by not acknowledging one's
own foibles while also not using what we know inside
ourselves to be true. We can hide behind the fudging
or fog of the moon, yet rail at the world
at large, and frustration is a primal part of ourselves
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seeks out answers we don't really want or maybe can't accept.
The development of these three is always accept our contributions
to the things that go wrong, even if the contribution
is simply bad timing or an attitude of discrumplement, which
can be easier than finding the courage to communicate effectively, apologize,
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or acknowledge what we are doing that we can change,
whether verbally or by action. In other words, to change
something is to admit something. The danger is in the avoidance,
which gives power over to others, who then make judgments
and decisions that affect us in ways that we can't
always enjoy. The hermit stays as the key to yourself,
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the need to know and remember that moment when you
could have done things differently, made a different choice, and
that could have been at the very start by choosing
the job, or at least acknowledge your own part in
your own life, and so there we go. Have not
yet heard back from that, but if you'd like to
hear the response to that when it comes in, because
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it's pretty recent, then pop a comments. You need to
click through to spreaker if you want to pop a comment,
I'd love to hear the response to that, and then
of course I will pop the response into the comments
for reading. So that whole experience was to show you
the total different quality of the cards drawn at the beginning,
the angsty cards. They were all literally playing out her
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thoughts in her anger and her want for restorative justice.
Restorative justice in a court of law is not the
same as restorative justice to people who have genuinely not
really done you any harm. They certainly haven't done anything illegal,
and it's subjective as to what level of anything is
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going on there. And that means to say, there is
bullying in the work, and if you are suffering that,
then get in touch with any bullying group that might
be in your area, not on social media. Good grief.
So there's just about every country I'm aware of has
hotlines for assistance with things like that. But also if
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it's not your place, if it's not a place you
enjoy being in. Use the tower card. Here we go
as an exit strategy and the Victorian terror. I've got
a woman doing a swan dive out of the tower,
out of the tower, and I've got rats leaving. Rats
leave our thinking ship. This woman's chosen to leave on
her own terms, and that's why I put her in there.
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She's swan diving. She looks amazing. Now she might be
enjoying the process of the destruction that's going on behind her,
but it can also represent that person who walks past destruction.
It reminds me of those movies, you know, where you've
got the guys who set the explosive and they walk
out all nice and cool, and this massive explosion goes
behind and that should really seen them flying at least
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a few hundred yards and maybe do them a lot
of damage or burn their backs. But they walk out
of there and they look cool, calm and collected. So
that's the potential of the tower card as well. There,
And I mention it because it was in her first drawer,
if you recall me mentioning those cards. So all of
these things can be read in ways that determine proactive
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and assertive action into the future. An assertive isn't combative
or confrontational. It's simply forward motion. It's saying I'm going
to handle this, I'm going to deal with this, I'm
going to talk about this, I'm going to get this
out of my way, rather than waiting for life events
to pull you down into a position that's quite hot.
In fact, I'm always the one that suggests take action first.
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If this girl had come to me, come to me,
sorry bad English, come to me in the very beginning
of this, she may have been able to navigate her
way through it with the advice of how to manage
these people. That's all a reading, by the way, Read
this person, read that person, this is where they're at.
And I could even tell her it's never going to
get better. You might want to your personalities are all
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too different or whatever it is, but there may have
been a solution. So when you start addressing these things.
Although that was a retrospective reading, you can start right
at the very beginning, notwith oh what I hope they
get their come up and because they made me feel bad,
come up and seeing the word justice, by the way,
in Layman's terms, when it's used the way that we
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use it, or calmer, or you could sit there and go,
you know what, I'm learning how to manage people. I'm
learning how to manage difficult people because that's always going
to be a part of our lives somewhere at some point.
So how do I do that effectively? So I'm comfortable
and I'm happy. So it could be that a person's
too sensitive, and there is such things it's too sensitive
because that makes everybody else it fault. I'm a victim
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if I'm too sensitive. Or it could be that the
individual needs to accept other personalities and just do their job.
And then if they are late, if they have got
a tendency to not do things correctly, if they are
needy and needing a lot of praise, they might want
to learn how not to need that because that will
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always cost them in life. That means they will be
seeking a partner that always tells them how good they are,
even when they're not good at something, and so they
end up with false relationships and they can't bond deeply.
So these are all aspects that you can discover using
TERO when you include yourself and a query, when you
include an understanding that you have a partner every part
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of your own life. I was sitting there one day,
minding my own business, and this was in Monganuy in
far north of New Zealand, and I'm enjoying the harbor.
This woman walks up to me with a pup who's
not looking happy at all. So I did what I
usually do with pups. I sat there, stood there. Basically,
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I was standing stood there, and I just said, oh,
have your pup just had surgery or something? And she said,
he's got a chronic disorder. He's on meds and we've
just been to the vet. Da da da, da da.
And I should have just said, see how we go here.
I should have just said I'm really sorry to hear that.
I hope he'll be better. And she said are you
Dorothy and I said, yes, I am. She said, oh,
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there was a woman who said that I should talk
to you and maybe talk about the dog, or maybe
you could help my mistake. Ego must have kicked in
and I said, oh, do you want some energy for
the dog. Because I knew all of this was highly
suspicious because of where I was standing. She must have
been talking to somebody who saw me there, and that
means she deliberately sought me out. It wasn't an accidental meeting,
(27:38):
so she wanted a freebie, so I didn't care too
put her dog. So I gave the dog energy therapy.
And you could see the improvement. I'm not just saying it.
You can always see the improvement immediately. And as soon
as he started looking normal and wandering around and he
wasn't sort of limping and dragging his hit more leg
she turned around and says, oh, he comes spontaneously right often.
(28:00):
I just know where that kind of comment is. It's like,
I wanted you to do it, but I can't give
any credit for it. I don't need the credit for it.
She could have said nothing, I'd have been happy. Then
she started talking about her own illness and about how
her sister gets a whole lot of government assistance and
she gets none. We live in New Zealand, by the way,
everybody with a chronic disease gets government assistants. We don't
pay for hospital visits. We don't pay more than I
(28:22):
think it's sixty dollars a month. You get allowance for
ongoing medication, it's probably one hundred and thirty. Now I
don't know I don't use medications, but it's fairly high
that you get all of that free if it's in
a certain range. That is to say, they are disorders,
are not elective. That's not something you just want. It's
something your doctor has said you must have. And you
(28:43):
can get it even cheaper than that. And you can
claim hardship and get everything free if you're really onto it.
If you're on a benefit, if you're on a pension,
there's no real charges. I think it's twenty dollars to
go to a doctor if you're on a pension, and
then if you can't pay that, it's the government will
pay it for you. At the end of all of
it we're talking about she starts going on and on
(29:03):
and on, not about her own disorder or about anything,
but I'm recognizing that, oh, now that her dog's perked up,
she wants something for herself. But she's complaining and complaining
and complaining, and I got annoyed, and so in the end,
I said, you know, I've been standing here too long
with us. I've got to go. And she kept on
going and going and going, and I'm asking myself, my
whole mind is going, why don't I just cross the road,
(29:24):
git out of here. And I got absolutely annoyed with her, said, look,
I've just got to get out. I can't even handle
this conversation. Went across the road, had a check to
a friend, not about her, because that's not what you do.
If you're upseat or angry about something, you have a
lighthearted chat. And I chose to beyond purpose. We had
a joke, we had to talk about some food. We
had to talk about hunting, which here and a hubby do,
(29:46):
and fishing, which I do and they do, and so
it was a really nice chat. Half an hour later
I wandered off and it was all behind me, perfectly happy.
In retrospection, I stayed too long. As soon as I
realized right at the beginning that she was using me
if you like, or had deliberately manipulated events. As soon
(30:08):
as I've worked with a little pup and she'd gone, oh,
you know, he does have spontaneous resolutions. I should have
walked on. Then I should have said, oh, well, that's nice,
see you later. But I didn't, and so by staying
in that it became this awkward, difficult, unpleasant conversation that
I wasn't enjoying at all in a country. Rohno, you
can't complain about a system that charges you nothing. That's
(30:28):
just stupid. So here we are. And that said, understanding
that the tower can mean making an exit strategy, and
justice doesn't mean somebody getting their come uppance, and all
of those things put together, there's a point of origin,
which is me, not her. There's no point in being
angry or upset with her, feeling like she did all
(30:49):
these bad things when I know I got upset because
of that, But it was me that state. I'm Dorothy
Chow for now. I became a soul jerking of all
these words down climbing, nomber, those nasty bees at tilting me.
(31:10):
Oh lord, but I'm go man. You did me for her.
It doesn't take me for the list may have a
song that's makes you listening. You day start to live,
Oh Lord, because I go and babar view then flames
(31:33):
going to show you what a le breath temple change
that your foot on me? God, I wouldn't change, but
I grew on theime will never bee you want you
want to, despite your despite trying to get away on
(31:53):
my show. Durst post
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