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May 27, 2025 • 38 mins
This is a common problem, starting with one deck for no good reason and then wanting to work with something more beautiful and exciting only to find yourself stuck.
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Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh, welcome everyone to Taro Crazy on Dorothy. This is
our beginner's series. And I think it's important to look
not just at cards and how you can read them,
but card meanings are real. They are a real problem
for anybody who has a serious interest in the cards.

(01:34):
But even if you're reading for yourself, by the way,
serious interests being I want to interpret the cards. It's
harder to do that for yourself than it is to
do it for others. And it's harder to do it
for friends. And I never read for family ever unless
they specifically asked me to. And then I don't use cards.
I don't need them, so I would just look forward
for them. But one of the bigger factors that causes

(01:57):
problems slows you down. And I think when I'm looking
at my beginner series and I was looking at the
motivation for it, one of the intentions here was actually
to speed up learning. So and I think this is
such an important thing. The self importance of people teaching
you incorrectly or sharing incorrect information. And they're not teachers,

(02:19):
they're not learned, they don't understand the terror themselves is
really obvious, but it can hold you back and I'm
not talking a couple of months till you twig on
to it for years, and it can prevent you from
ever reading terror correctly if you don't understand what needs correcting.
Quite an interesting factor if you're on core, if you're

(02:39):
on readit and you're asking for a terror interpretation. I
just recently had one where the person was asking about
a situation that was really problematic for her because she
was asking interpretation of the cards, which in itself would

(03:04):
be contradictory to what she needed to know. I suppose
that's such an important thing with social media, but it
isn't where she was that. She was actually pretty open.
She had a lot of people a lot of responses
that were literally junk. And now why does this matter?
Because it holds her in. So we start with, as

(03:26):
I mentioned before, the query but her career. Was he
telling the truth when he said he's not interested in me?
That is like the ultimate denial. That was the query
that she drew cards on. It's one it's a yes
or no query. So when you are looking at this,
we're not criticizing her. She was really open. I gave
her a straightforward response which wasn't really interpreting the cards.

(03:48):
But she had four cards again for a yes or
no answer. It's never going to work. You just can't
do it without making it up. And so she's got
the three of Pentacles, she's got the seven of WANs
I think it is hang on a minute, yep, the
seven of Ones, the Night of Ones, and she's got
the lovers. So in any interpretation like that, I'm always

(04:12):
going to go straight to that major arcana card and
let me explain why she's asked a use for no
query and therefore no cards have valid there's no valid
cards in there. She's also got cards that could be
seen as contentious. She's got cards that could be seen
as reward style, which the three of pentacourses often read
that way, but it's not actually that. And then she's

(04:32):
got one which shows embattlement, which is sitting straight above
the Lover's card. And so I've responded this way, and
trust me, this is how I respond to these things
without the cards. If you see that at the start
of any response mine, it says there's a problem intrinsically
before the cards were even drawn. Without the cards, a

(04:53):
very serious question is why wouldn't you just accept what
he says, respect his position and let it. Try not
to listen to anyone who encourages you to trivialize what
another person says to you. In seriousness, you are the
only one who will get hurt or suffer if you
listen to those who propagate your desires just to feel important.

(05:14):
This is about the other fifty six responses, which all
said these card meanings. He doesn't mean that these card
meanings will meant to be together. There were heaps of those.
How confusing for somebody who's asking for interpretation. Help to
get those kind of entitled types pretending they know what
they're talking about but don't. And some of these claim

(05:37):
to be experienced readers, and so this is what sets
you back. And that's why I've bought it up today.
I went on to say, the lovers make better choices.
That is it. The lovers is going to be about choices.
It's not about love. It shouldn't even be called the
lovers because inevitably learners will take it down that track
because it's called the lovers. But what happens to lovers?

(05:59):
Lovers fight, lovers break up, Lovers have superficiality. The word
lovers doesn't mean wife or husband, doesn't mean boyfriend or girlfriend.
And back in the time when these cards were designed,
you didn't have a lover. You weren't meant to have
sex outside of marriage. Therefore, a person who was interacting
with you sexually was a person in a relationship with you,

(06:23):
or it was illicit and shouldn't happen. So good bad choices.
I do believe that Arthur Waite was looking for or
not just him a life is LEVI before him didn't
determine these italia before him. I think part of the
problem was that they were seeing This is one of
the bigger areas of contention, and I'm going to say
this really loud and clear. For men, women didn't get

(06:45):
the option. That was the laws of the land. The
man owned the woman. If we pretend that that wasn't
the truth, we are never going to understand the right
away deck. But it also makes it a really awkward
deck in a modern world because we have to paraphrase everything.
We have to add on meanings to make them appropriate.

(07:05):
Because when a woman and a man exchanged vowels, which
of course modern interpretations talk about exchanging promises, that's just
rubbish now right The person can say what they like,
leave what they like, divorce what they're like. Back then
you couldn't. Right back then you could not. Marriage was
for life. Whether you were poor or whether you were rich,

(07:25):
it did not matter. Now there was an undervalue of
society that didn't necessarily hold those They didn't get married.
They lived together, but that wasn't the majority. That certainly
wasn't the norm. And so I want you to really
think about that. And their lovers represents every bad choice
a person could make, along with every good choice a
person could make in the area of anything, but the

(07:47):
representation of it is in relationships. Now above that card,
there's a symbol. Go look it up. I know what
it means to you. And if you don't know what
it means, you're going to look at the word the lovers,
and you're going to take that as an interpretation of
the cards directive. But it's far far from it making
good choices making bad choices. So I finished up with
saying women have spent years trying to teach that no

(08:10):
means no. It's equally relevant for men who say no.
So take that message. If somebody said they're not interested
in you, if they've said they don't want to take
things forward with you. Then that's pretty powerful to say
the poster has gone, thank you for this, it was
well appreciated. I suppose that it's just because I had
a lot of mixed signals from him and I was

(08:31):
dead sure I knew what was happening, but I guess not.
I think I just wanted more answers. So this is
a valid point, by the way, but wanting more answers
isn't what she went for. She went for negating her statement.
Was he telling the truth is a yes or no answer.
It's not more answers, and you're not going to get

(08:53):
more answers and the drawer or anything else. So we
need to understand that sometimes if not a lot of
time fledgling or feeling new relationship, the other person has
no intention of taking it further. They are not emotionally
committed to it, regardless of what you tell yourself, and
I mean tell yourself, because they're usually obvious to everybody

(09:15):
else but the person who wants it to be more.
So I put this down to upbringing when it comes
to girls. But you're seeing it a bit now and
again with men, but not often, not often, So whether
or not he was honest is irrelevant because he said no,
I go way. So she says that not me, and
I'm saying he's being honest. There's not many men or

(09:38):
women who are really interested in somebody who would say
they're not interested in them. They're more likely to go
the other way, right, So let's get real. She goes
thanks again. Then we've got another person, and this is
where we go. This person had told her an explanation
for the cards, which I'm not going to go and
hunt out down the list, but I read that earlier,

(09:59):
and she has come into comment on my comment because
that covers her ass for her comment, and in her
comment she's actually basically said, he's going to come back
to you. He really knows he needs to be with you.
And that's a calmic situation from a past life. She's
gone this big, huge diatribe, but in mind, because of
what I've said, she's gone, hey, that's okay, no harm

(10:21):
in trying to find guidance. Cintero. You came to the
sub asking for help to interpret cards, but you're getting
unsoluted life as advice from strangers instead. And now that
compelled and that was just for her to justify her answer.
I'm not concerned. I'm just saying, you know, I'm very honest, straightforward.
So my whole intention in there is to help the
girl move on. The cards become irrelevant because they never

(10:45):
had a meaning in context to the question. Think about
that for a second. So interpreting the cards is doing
her a disservice. Think about that too. If you're helping
others in social media and are asking for interpretation help,
she's not really asking for interpretation help because she did

(11:05):
not given her own interpretation of the cards. So we
start there. She's asking for help. She wants to move on,
she wants to understand. We get all of that right.
So if you're a reader, and if you've got years
in reading behind you and you understand people, not just
the terror cards, and you're not just reading for yourself,

(11:26):
you understand the underlying message of a question, and that's
how you read cards for others. Otherwise you have to
keep getting them to reframe their question. So it's a
bit tricky. But the poster has come back and gone,
it's okay. People are telling me what I need to hear, honestly,
because that's what she really wanted. But the other person

(11:46):
came in really just to alter and frame something when
another poster has said something that was totally not in
line with what she had interpreted under her her tag

(12:07):
of experienced reader. And so I've just responded to that.
Good for you taking that so well. It shows not
only maturity but honesty with self, because that is the
only way to get good answers that take you where
you want to go. So what does that have to
do with today's query. It's a lack of understanding of
the cards. She's using a right away dick and has

(12:28):
no idea of what the symbology and the cards mean.
And probably two thirds of all the answers. There are
good readers on Readit, and there are good readers on Kora,
and there are good readers in the world. Most people
answer those queries are just making it up or they're
trying to promote themselves as a qualified reader to get money,

(12:50):
and they want the answer and the handle out there.
So think twice about it if it doesn't feel right,
if you know it isn't right. So in that situation,
she would have done better to ask how to move
on because she had struggled to understand the most foundational
reasoning that there is, and this foundational reasoning is he

(13:10):
just didn't have the feelings she would like him to
have for her. That's it more often and not in
the beginning of a relationship or an early stage relationship,
which is up to one to two years, by the way,
depending on the other individual and how long you're prepared
to go with it. It's not a reason for not
having feelings. We don't have a reason for not having feelings.

(13:33):
It could break down because of the relationships horrible. Both
parties will know that if you're fighting a lot of things,
that crashes. If somebody's having affairs, you know something's wrong
and you know what it is. When it doesn't seem
to be a reason, it means they haven't got enough feeling.
So it's not that they have to have a reason
not to be in the relationship. It's more that most people,
if not everyone, who wants to have it or is

(13:54):
having a healthy relationship has multiple reasons for being in
the relationship. If there's only one reason, if you ask,
I do this in sessions for hypnotherapy a lot, because
we do. I do release the past therapy, and there's
a certain amount of conscious or cognitive informing. And then
there's the hypnotherapy when I understand exactly what's been going

(14:17):
on with that person in front of me. The other
person's in relevant. Still, it's your own mind. Your whole
relationship is with your mind and incorporating or integrating another
person into it. So this brings us to why she
couldn't read her cards properly. One bad question, don't go there,
yes or no, yeah never works. And the more cards

(14:38):
you draw for a one question, one answer yes or no.
If you don't toss a coin, you're doing yourself a disservice.
That's the question. And at least if you decide a
heads is yes and a tail is no, or vice versa,
it's very clear what you're getting. Cards unless they have
a yes or no on them, just aren't for you.
They're not for you for that type of query. So

(14:59):
taro question and tear at cards on reade it why
my other deck doesn't resonate with a reading? Now Please
note she says resonate with reading, but she goes on
to make it clear that it's the it's the readings,
not a reading. So it goes I like, I am
more good when using a right weight. But I really

(15:19):
want to use and called to you and feel called
to use the other deck, which is an ethereal deck
to read, but it don't give me accurate reading reading
that the right of weight. Any tips. She's asked for tips,
So I'm going to give you the tips now. I've
got another episode in here that says why the RWs

(15:39):
deck is the worst for beginners, And there's a couple
of reasons and there. And one is you're going to
run around the internet and find a plethora that is
a massive amount of so called card meanings. And I'm
going to say this very clearly, the cards do not
have meanings. And if you apply a meaning to a card,
it's suddenly useless for anything else. You cannot read nuance,

(16:02):
you can't read card combinations, and even if you drew
a lot of cards, it's sort of like taking five
or six sentences and then putting them together and saying, Okay,
that's the paragraph I've got. But they're all completely different, right,
So the first one could say, what a pretty garden.
The second one is the house is the wrong house
in the right street, and it all makes no sense

(16:23):
when you put it together. And that's what card meanings
do for you. They hold you back. I've got a
big response that I would give to this question that, firstly,
the word resonates. Resonates just means you agree with something.
It feels right, it looks right, it sounds right. That
doesn't mean it is right. That's one reasonate does not

(16:46):
mean you will right if it doesn't resonate. What she
really is saying is I can't read these cards, and
so if they don't have the standard, well, my Victorian
terry doesn't have the standard pit cards. I've used spades, hearts, clubs,
and diamonds. You could find an alignment. But those were
the original cards. They were the original cards that we

(17:08):
called minor arcana. Now, so anybody who says you can't
read Taro cards like terrort cards, it's the other way round.
Taro has copied how they were already being read in
houses around the world like manners, and lords and ladies
would use their cards for divination for fun. Theologians, the

(17:29):
Theosophical Society, they were full of rich people, not poor people.
And these people sat around in their dining rooms with
their beautiful cards, or their drawing rooms, i should say,
with their beautiful playing cards, by the way, just aces
to kings. Then they didn't have pages in them in

(17:50):
a single deck. So there were decks with pages, but
they didn't have jacks that we call them now. They
were called knaves, and knaves have a meaning. By the way,
knaves were the second and third sons of rich households.
These were not warriors. So in changing it tonight, there's
this look on them like there's something selfless, something driven

(18:12):
by that, and that's part of the cards. These guys
would be like that. Many of them would join and
to war if it's to have a bit of a blast,
or because they were they started at the top, even
all the way up to now, a rich person is
less likely to start at the bottom and work their
wait at the top, and any military in the world
they are more likely to start higher up. And so

(18:34):
you've got to ask a question about that. But back
in the day, these were the naughty guys. They would
be irresponsible. They'd get servant girls pregnant because they didn't
have the responsibility. But they had all the money and
they were spoilt. It's that simple. They could go out
and gamble and get drunk, and so they were called knaves.
Look up that word knave knavee, and that was the

(18:54):
original title for these cards. So their cards got increase
a deck a little bit, because you know, there's fifty
two cards in our playing deck, so they've really just
added four cards. That is one suit of court cards,
which is the pages pretty much. Or there was a
time where there was no queens either, by the way,

(19:16):
so queens only came into the playing cards when we
had a queen's and she would determine that it would
be off with your head if there wasn't a queen
in a card deck, I can promise you that. And
the queen was the highest card in the playing deck,
not the king. And we had queen's for a very
long time. I think if we're going to England and
there was Queen Isabella in Spain at the same time,

(19:38):
we go from Elizabeth the First and then we have
a couple of kings dropped in there, but she was
the longest reigning queen for her time, and then we
have Elizabeth the Second, who reigned again for the longest time.
So these are pretty important things to take note of
because Elizabeth the Second, of course, is going back to

(19:58):
the early nineteen hundred. So when you have a set
of cards, you've bought it and you've learned meanings, you
have ruined yourself, or I should say this better, you
have made it a lot harder for yourself to read
images on another card. Your mind will try to align
them with what you already know. And that's it. You're

(20:21):
functioning on memory, not intuition. When you learn meanings. The
cards don't have a meaning. They have a directive. But
you're functioning on memory. And you've created an image, or
you've been showing an image and you've been told this
is a meaning for that image. That's how we learn
to read. And I've said this many times before. This
gets stuck deep inside because it's the same method for

(20:43):
learning what a hammer is. You sew on a picture
of a hammer, you're told it's a hammer, and there's
no way on earth anybody's going to tell you it's
a spade. And if you're told, also, what that hammer does.
It bangs things, we'll just go with that it bangs things.
If somebody says you could use it to pull you
yourself up onto a roof, your mind would not compute that.

(21:04):
It would be just no and that's not because you're dumb,
and it's not because you can't reach out to a
new idea. It's because you've been given something that you've
been practicing for quite a long time and it becomes cemented,
so it takes a bit more work to get past it.
So the only way to learn terr effectively is to
not get caught up in traditional decks, to never read meanings.

(21:24):
If you want to go and understand a card, better
find the creator's pictorial key. That means that's a key
that will tell you the elements of the card. That's it.
I think last week or the week before, I said,
go and have a look at the chariot from A
Life as Levi. You can just type in chariot A

(21:44):
life is Levi and you'll see a drawing that was
in his book. Arthur Waite's card comes from that drawing,
and as soon as you look at the two side
by side, you will see, oh, yes it does. Now
it's more complex because Arthur Waits used an illustrator and
dructed that illustrator of the elements he wants in there.
But there are things missing. Hey, well look have a think,

(22:05):
and this is how you learn to understand cards. What's
different about elifis Levi's deck card for the Chariot and
Arthur Waite's not just the elements. Look at the faces
of the sphinxes, look at what they're doing, Look at
the person in the chariot itself, look at their hands.
What is different on the most fundamental level when you

(22:25):
look at the images. This is what picture reading is
all about. Picture reading is what terror is meant to
be done and dusted. He had his printed edition of
his book of his cards long before he had any
printed edition of card definitions, and the original ones were
printed on a single sheet that fitted in a single

(22:47):
packet which they were larger cards, and that single sheet
was a pictorial key and keywords done and dusted. I've
still got one of those, by the way, and it
should be enough for anyone. It helps to direct you.
There's no indication of the meaning of the symbology or
where he got the symbols from. And even in his
pictorial key to the t Tara do get his forget

(23:09):
anybody else, as they're just making it up. He talks
about the symbology of it. There's a whole diatribe about
other authors and other readers and stuff like that. But
really he's letting you know in every page that it's subjective.
It's not written in stone, it's not actually a meaning.
This is what other people read the cards as. And

(23:30):
he says that all the way through it. He's given
the card to readers, the cards to other readers, and
what the inferences that they take from them based on
the imagery of the card. Are we with that? Yet?
The best readers learn this way, and if they don't
start by learning this way, they eventually go, you know
what this is like being an artist without having the tools.

(23:52):
I know I want to create this image. I am
an artist. I know I want to create this image,
and this is what happened to me. I know I
want to create this image. I want to create certain complexity,
but I don't know how. So it creates a disconnect
because now we're not open to what the images and
the combination of images are telling us and showing us.

(24:12):
We're closed to that. Not to mention the illustration of
Pamela in the right Away Deck, Pamela Smith is actually
very nominal illustration if you look at her artwork, and yes,
she was an illustrator, not a particularly successful one, but

(24:36):
you will see that's her style. It's very nominal when
it comes to features and faces and so on, because
they were trying to create something that would fit on
something small as opposed to large, which is important, and
he had a lot of elements, but she drew like that. Anyway,
if you look at her images, while the content isn't
terror as such, they are the illustrations are the same.

(24:58):
So I don't know that she would have been all
these successful back in the day, but anyway, the style
is definitely obvious and clear, so the not resonating and
not being able to read the second deck of cards,
the newer deck of cards, if you've bought them for
the imagery and imagery is complex. It's not too cats.

(25:19):
I say that all the time because I saw this
cat themed deck and I was just shaking my head.
That's for children. It's a children's illustrations set of seventy
eight cards. Nobody's giving children a terror set. And if
you're a teenager and you think that's fun, cool, but
you're not a terror reader and they're not terror cards.
They're just fun, I guess. So this is an and

(25:40):
of course to read them. What you have to do.
You have to go and find meanings that match the
words which are the directives or the suit the seven
of cups, and nothing has anything to do with the
image at all, And it's just bibliomensi. It's not terror cards.
So this not being able to understand a second set
of images come more likely if you've got the same directives.

(26:04):
If you've got the twenty two major arcanas, twenty two
major arcana, and you've got all of the minor arcana
suits are the same, then your brain's going to read
those directives and try and work out what that's got
to do with the image. So it creates a disconnect.
Your brain literally gets confused. It goes, hang on, that's
not right, that's the wrong picture, and that's what it's

(26:26):
going to keep doing, and so you don't look at
the picture. And so if you've done that, if you've
got a second deck and you really like the imagery
and it's really complex, but it does happen to have
the same directives as the old style tarot decks, just
so as you know too, in the early eighteen hundreds,
nobody bothered with minor arcana because they use playing cards.

(26:46):
Are you getting that yet? So when we are looking
at that, that understanding then becomes okay. So my brain
thinks that the hirophint should look like this, even though
this card says the hierphint, I don't get it, or
you get it worse. With my Victorian Terror, I've changed
all of the directives to be conceptual. That means they're

(27:08):
more in line with what the card is trying to
share with you by its image, and less in line
with a role, which was what the older ones were
trying to do. They were applying a role an emperor,
all power. That's the only two words that go with
that word. But then you look at the image and
you go, well, hang on a minute, there's something else
going on here. And then the same with some of

(27:31):
the other cards. For the devil, I've put in temptation
and a siren a mermaid siren, because they lure people
to their destruction. Right, there's a rec dingy on the rocks.
Life gets worse when you follow temptations, which by definition
is something you know or think you shouldn't probably do.
That's the definition of it. So call it what you like. Yes,

(27:54):
it could become an addiction or it could become something
we do until we are destroyed by it. So those
directives give you those clues. You could look at the
shipwreck boat or you could look at the siren, depending
on where you are in the development of that. Because
major arcana are berg cards, they're not oh, I've got
this one one day and i haven't got it the next. No,

(28:16):
that's not how it is. I think it's important also
to understand that the terror decks of the early nineteen hundreds,
late eighteen hundreds, and mid eighteen hundreds, all the way
back to Atalia, who didn't really create a deck as such,
but in the seventeen hundreds. Please note there were no
printing presses as such. Everything had to be hand drawn.

(28:38):
The understanding of their world was different to our understanding
of our world. Women had no control unless they were royalty,
and then they had no control over anything except their servants,
and they had some power over people that were lesser
than them. So, you know, the world's changed a lot,

(28:59):
so we need to make those adjustments. So one of
the things that when you're over invested in a card
meaning is you cannot use intuitive response, which is progressive
and forward connecting the past with the future or something
in the card that unlocks an emotive response from you.
That's an emotion of feeling, a thought, an idea that

(29:21):
comes as a response to the cards in front of you.
Then immediately you override that response if you have one,
by seeking out a meaning, and then it can become
say you have a moment of dread when you see
three cards. You don't need any more reading than that dread.
But if you have read the meanings of the card,

(29:41):
and the dread is because of the meanings, then it
has no relevance. So now your emotive response is because
of a meaning you've read in the past, not because
of what the cards are trying to tell you now.
And that could be one card out of five, taking
the whole thing down because you aren't being a clinician,
that is an observer that is objective and just trying

(30:02):
to read what they're trying to show you. Read interpret
it's evocative. It's meant to be evocative. So the reason
this gets so ingrained is because we learn to read
and write exactly that way. So some part of somebody,
at some point has thought this is a good idea.
We'll give you a picture. Ignore the picture this is

(30:22):
the meaning to go with the directive, and so you
don't even learn how to align those things together in
different ways, that is to say, different images. If you're
reading the image first, the directive is just the directive,
and then the image builds that out or pumps that out,
or takes it even further for you, brings it into refinement, hones,

(30:43):
it explains, it gives it context. All of these things
are true, then of course you can read that directive
with different cards and get different things from them. So
pretty important. If you've got a deck of cards and
it has an author, and the author and creative have
written a guidebook for it, read the guidebook and put

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away any other preconceptions you have. This is a whole
new experience, and it can be as easy or as
hard as you like. It's really fair to say that
card meanings are irrelevant, and I really believe that totally
one hundred percent. The directives or keywords that are directives
usually would number at least five keywords for any one card,
and they are only pointers, they're not definitions. And without that,

(31:29):
how can you conceptualize a card? How can you give
it context? Within the range of the question that you're
asking if it's not a use or no question. The
image that is easy is for anyone to read, is
going to be one that is complex. It means it
has a lot of elements. It means that those elements
work together beautifully. They're not all disparate, they're not separate.
So the card itself as a whole gives you a

(31:51):
sense of something, and then there's an individual element that
you might be drawn to in You might be drawn
safe to a mirror in a card, which may suggest
to you in your glossary there's something reflected in you
based on what's going on in this card, or that

(32:11):
others are seeing in you, or that you're seeing another
Suddenly the mirror becomes the primary of the evocative specific information.
That's how by the way one reads specifics in cards.
It's not by the meaning and it's not by just
a generalization. It's looking at the images. I can remember
many years ago I started saying to people I can

(32:32):
read just about any deck of cards. It's not a brag.
That's what everybody should be able to do. You should
be able to look at a card if the picture
isn't too simple, and evoke a meaning from that for
the person the meaning comes from the reader, not from
the card, and evoke a meaning that's specific and accurate
for the person getting the reading. And that's different to

(32:53):
interpreting a group of cards that somebody else has drawn
and just reading those cards as a sea, as a
group in that moment with their question, because it's not
going to have the same thing going on later on
with another question with another person, even if they're drawn
in the same order, you're going to be drawn to
different aspects of those things. Pretty important. Otherwise, there's no

(33:15):
point in trying to interpret cards at all. You might
as well just read a message, which is what the
oracle cards are for. You have a message with each card.
You don't interpret anything. You just read the message the
elements of the cards that you like to look at
as a whole. If you want to really become a
proficient reader, you need to go through every single card

(33:38):
in your deck. Is a practice, every single card slowly,
not one, two, three, I've gone through seventy eight or
fifty six or thirty six. You don't need to do
the normOn. They're just pretty simple. They're not designed as
terror cards. That's simple. There's a ship there's a ship.
Doesn't matter what the ship looks like. There's a ship.
One of the aspects for the rest of the terrors. Again,

(34:01):
if they've got different directives or no directives. If you
don't want to interpret that imagery, then you really need
a card deck that gives you the message so that
you don't have to. When I've put my cards into
deckable that forced me to give a message for each card,
which I didn't put meanings. I didn't write a book

(34:22):
because except for the terror of asterisms, which is highly
complex and it's maneuverable through years, one of the things
for the Victorian terror and the dark growth of the nation,
as far as I was concerned, was a person reading
the image and seeing one directive should be able to
and that was the aim of the images, not for

(34:43):
whether a reader is good or not. The aim of
the images is that that person can read that and
look into it and see different things at different times.
It's complex. For that reason. If you see one thing
all the time in your cards and you miss all
the rest, you're not reading individually. You're probably memorizing because
you're not looking at the image. That's our show for today,
because that's pretty much all we've got. You do understand

(35:07):
that side of it, you will find that you one
have a lot more enjoyment in reading the cards because
when you're looking into an image and you get a
little bit lost in that image and you feel yourself
getting emotional responses or memories coming forward and ideas coming
forward that are relatable to another person. When you're reading
for another person, you're not reading your own experiences. You're

(35:28):
reading your own experience and what you took from that
and applying it to what these cards are trying to
show you. Everyone has intuition, Everyone has a glossary of images.
Everyone understands what does the mirror do? If I ask
you these questions, what is a cloud? To you? Stop
and think, just for a moment, pause the show if
you must, What does a cloud do? When you see

(35:50):
a cloud in a card or in the sky, what
is it doing? That first word that comes out of
your mind will be how you interpret that, whether you
plan or not, unless you don't see it because you're
remembering a meaning. There are plenty of cards and there
w stick that have clouds that nobody ever takes notice of,
because well, I shouldn't see nobody that's an exaggeration many meaning.

(36:14):
Most people don't take note of because they're too busy
trying to follow this meaning in alignment with the word
underneath the card. And so sometimes there's a lot of clouds,
sometimes not so much, and other decks we've got the
same thing. And my deck, my page of well, it's
not really a page because I don't use did I
use page? Yeah, I did page of page of spades.

(36:38):
There's clouds on the wall behind and I directly took
that from and you can see the wind blowing the clouds,
so it's for me it's obscurity. But also the wind
blowing is I remember a saying when I created the
image of an ill wind blows no good, And it's
an old, old saying that just sort of says, you know,

(36:59):
when things start to get a bit troublesome, somebody's pushing
them along. And when somebody's pushing them along, things could
get fractious, they could get difficult. If you're trying to
hide something, that could mean they're revealed. So I've put
all these elements in this particular card in an attempt
for a reader to see those elements and understand what
the card means, but also what that part of the

(37:21):
card means. You could be reading the element of trying
to hide something, keep it a secret, or the element
of the little newspaper boy yelling it out to the world,
or the screen which says, you know, what's going on
behind you may not be your business, or you might
need to step into it if you want to know more. So,
there's quite a lot of symbolism in my cards that
are not even though that's called the Victorian taro, and

(37:44):
that's the image, and I like the wistfulness of it.
They are not too far back in time at all.
I want them to be readable today by modern people today,
with our modern understanding, even if the imagery is a
little bit fashion. I'm Dorothy. This is Terror Crazy beginner

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