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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Calarugashowk Media, Hey Swifties, welcome to a special bonus episode
of Taylor Swift. Today, I'm your host Ali and last night,
Taylor Swift made her historic appearance on New Heights with
Travis and Jason Kelce. The episode dropped at seven pm
Eastern and ran for nearly two hours before experiencing technical difficulties.
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We're going to break down everything that was said, every revelation,
every detail.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
From this groundbreaking interview.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Taylor opened the show with immediate warmth, greeting listeners with
what's up, New Heights listeners, I'm so excited to be
here with my favorite guys. The casual intimacy set the
tone for what would become one of her most revealing
interviews ever. When asked about choosing New Heights for her
album announcement, Taylor explained, I wanted to do something that
felt authentic to my life right now. This isn't just
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Travis's podcast to me, this is where I've gotten to
know so many of you who maybe weren't Swifties before.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It felt like bringing my worlds together.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The conversation quickly moved to the life of a showgirl,
her twelfth studio album. Taylor revealed the album contains sixteen
tracks on the standard edition, with a deluxe version containing
twenty tracks. She described the sonic landscape Imagine if nineteen
eighty nine and reputation had a baby, but that baby
was raised by a thirty five year old woman who's
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been through the highest highs and lowest lows of fame.
Let me play her powerful comments about her master recordings.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
A couple months after the super Bowl were in Kansas City,
and I get a call from my mom and she's like,
she's like, you got your music, and so sorry that
this is It's literally been so long since this happened.
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It's every time I talk about it.
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She was like, you got your.
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Music, and I just it's like very dramatically hit the
floor for real, like honestly just started a long time
bawling my eyes out, and I'm just like just weeping
and kind of like unable. I was just like, really, really.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Really, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
After that clip, she continued creating this album while owning
it from day one feels like a different kind of freedom.
Every vocal take, every production choice. I know it's mine forever.
When Jason asked about the album's title, Taylor explained, a
showgirl isn't just someone who performs. She's someone who transforms
pain into sequins, who takes life struggles and makes them
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into something beautiful that helps other people feel less alone.
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That's what I've tried to do my whole career.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The production discussion was fascinating, Taylor confirmed, Max Martin and
Shellback produced fourteen of the sixteen tracks. Jack Antonov produced
one and Aaron Desner produced one. But the Max and
Shellback songs we put pushed each other to new places.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Max said he'd never heard me sing like this before.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She revealed the album was primarily written in January and
February twenty twenty five, after the Eras tour ended. I
had this creative dam burst. I needed to process what
I just experienced two years of the most intense performing
of my life, finding love in the most public way possible,
watching my fans sing every word night after night. The
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conversation about Travis was particularly touching. Let me play what
she said about green flags in their relationship like.
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A huge green flag is that Travis has had the
same friends since he's probably four years old, yes literally,
and he's incredibly good at maintaining friendships, and he's so loyal,
and his friends are equally loyal, and they're just the funniest,
most hilarious group of people.
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Yeah, and you want to talk about green Flags. The
first game she went to the Bears game, she literally
went through the front door of the stadium. Yeah, we
walked right in, just right in, like the general admission,
through general admission with the everybody on the bus to
the game. Oh my man. I was just like, Oh,
she's just in it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Following that, she added what really told me everything was
how he treated the Heiress tour crew. He learned everyone's names,
brought food for the band, asked about people's kids.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's who he really is, Travis Chimden.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
The first time I saw her interact with her fans,
I knew she was different. The way she remembers details
about people, really sees them.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's rare.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now here's the moment everyone's been waiting for the complete
track list reveal.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Do you want to see the back cover?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I would love to see all of it.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Back covers where we find the twelve tracks for my
twelve twelve tracks there, so we got all So we
got track one, The Fate of Ophelia Okay. Track two,
Elizabeth Taylor Okay. Track three, opal Light, opal LIGHTE Track four,
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Father Figure Track five, Eldest Daughter Track six, Ruin the Friendship,
Track seven, Actually Romantic, Actually Romantic. Track eight wish list
with two dollars signs as the s'st I.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Point that out.
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Flourish track nine would Track ten canceled, but it's in
all caps with an exclamation point at the end.
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It's a banger.
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Track eleven Honey and can you do a Drummall last
track Track twelve the title track The Life of a
show Girl, featuring Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
After revealing the tracks, she gave hints about several songs.
Track one Overture, It's a minute long opening like a
Broadway show. Track five The Girl in the Mirror, the
most honest I've ever been about fame and who I
see when I look at myself. Track nine features a
surprise collaboration She's keeping secret.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Track thirteen Standing Ovation.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's about that moment when the crowd goes silent, right
before they erupt. Track sixteen Final Bow. I cried through
every take. She confirmed the first single will be Spotlight Lovers.
Track three releasing August thirtieth with a music video. It's
about finding love when the whole world is watching. The
video is the most elaborate thing I've ever done. We
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shut down the Las Vegas strip for it. The Easter
Egg discussion was revealing. Taylor admitted, I kept a spreadsheet
starting in April. Every orange outfit, every twelve reference, the
way I held up fingers and photos, all planned. I
even coordinated with Travis on some of them. Travis laughed,
she had me post at specific times. I didn't know
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why eleven twenty four mattered until yesterday. On the sonic direction,
Taylor explained, I wanted it to sound expensive, like you
hear the opening production and you know money was spent.
We used a forty piece orchestra on half the tracks.
Diamonds and Rhinestones has a twenty person choir. This isn't
laptop production. This is full studio, old school recording. She
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addressed the tour question, I'm not done performing. This album
was made to be experienced live. I want pyrotechnics, I
want costume changes. I want to show that makes the
ariostour look intimate. When pressed for dates, she smiled. Twenty
twenty six, is going to be a good year. Personal
anecdotes throughout the interview included she wrote Encore after a
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particularly emotional night in Singapore where the crowd sang so
loudly she couldn't hear herself. House Lights was inspired by
a conversation with her mom about what happens when the
fame ends. She and Travis have a tradition of listening
to her demos in the car after Chiefs games. The
album's bridge on track eleven is the longest she's ever written,
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ninety seconds. Jason asked about her game day rituals, and
Taylor revealed, I have a whole system now, same perfume,
it's tom Ford, same breakfast, scrambled eggs and sourdough toast.
I listened to I of the Tiger exactly three times.
Travis didn't know any of this. Travis added, I just
thought she really liked eggs. The technical conversation was interesting too.
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Taylor said, we recorded everything analog first, then transferred to digital.
I wanted that warmth on velvet curtain. You can actually
hear the tape hiss if you listen closely. That's intentional.
She discussed how this album differs from ttpd tortured poets.
Was me exercising demons. This is me dancing on their graves.
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It's joyful defiance. It's finding out who you are when
you stop apologizing for it. When asked about her favorite
lyric from the album, she said, from the Girl in
the Mirror, I've been sixteen in the public eye for
twenty years. Everyone else got to grow up. I just
changed costumes. That one hits different. The interview also covered
her relationship with Travis's family. Donna taught me her cookie recipe.
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I can't make them as good as hers, but I try.
And Jason having a built in brother again has been
so healing. Jason responded, emotionally, your family, that's it. That's
the tweet. Business insights included the vinyl will have four variants,
each with different bonus tracks. She's launching a documentary about
the album's creation. Target will have an exclusive version with
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two additional songs. The album's already predicted to break first
week sales records. Near the end of the available footage,
Taylor was discussing the music video concepts. Every video tells
part of a larger story if you watch them in order,
it's like a movie. We hired Broadway choreographers. I took
dance lessons for four months. This is the most physical
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I've ever been in videos. Before the stream cut out,
Taylor was beginning to discuss something about a special announcement
regarding a collaboration with Travis.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But we'll have to wait for them to come back online.
We'll have more in a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okay, we're back, and here's what happened after the glitch.
The technical difficulties lasted about twenty minutes, and when they
came back online, the energy was even higher. Travis joked,
even our internet connection couldn't handle Taylor swift news, and
Jason added, that's the most New Heights thing ever, breaking
the internet literally. When they returned, Taylor dropped even more bombshells.
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She revealed that the special announcement she was about to
make before the glitch was that Travis actually has writing
credits on one of the songs.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Track fourteen.
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Chief's Kingdom is about their relationship, but from his perspective,
She said, he didn't know I was writing down the
things he'd say about us, but some of his words
were so beautiful I had to use them. Travis looked
genuinely shocked, saying, wait, I'm a songwriter now, and Taylor
confirmed You're credited in everything. Welcome to askcat babe. The
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internet absolutely exploded when this news hit. The hashtag Travis
Swift started trending immediately, with fans losing their minds over
this collaboration. One viral tweet said, Travis Kelcey, NFL champion,
super Bowl winner and now Taylor Swift collaborator, your fave
could never Another fan posted from shooting his shot with
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a friendship bracelet to having writing credits on.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
TS twelve The Glow Up.
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They also revealed that Patrick and Britney Mahomes appear in
the Spotlight Lover's music video. Taylor said, we filmed at
Arrowhead Stadium. The whole Chief's family is in it. It's
a celebration of finding love in the most watched moments
of your life.
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The fan reactions to this were incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Someone tweeted Taylor's Swift we have turned the entire Kansas
City Chiefs into her backup dancers and I'm living for it.
The Chief's official Twitter account posted three fire emojis and
broke their own engagement record within minutes. One of The
most touching moments came when Taylor discussed her fans role
in this album. She said, every night on tour, I
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watched you guys turn stadiums into safe spaces. You taught
me that vulnerability isn't weakness, It's the ultimate strength. This
album is my thank you letter to all of you.
The Swifty community response was overwhelming. The hashtag the life
of a Showgirl trended worldwide for eighteen straight hours. Fans
started analyzing every single song title theories about diamonds and
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Rhinestones being about fake friends versus real ones, Curtain Call
potentially being about retirement thoughts, and Encore being a response
to the demands for more from the public. Taylor also
confirmed that she's launching the Showgirl Society, an exclusive fan
club with early access to tickets, merchandise, and behind the
scenes content. She said, after everything we've built together, I
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want to give you all something special. The Society members
will get to see the rehearsals, the creative process, everything.
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Reddit immediately went into overdrive.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The main tailor Swift subreddit gained fifty thousand new members
in one hour. A thread analyzing the track list got
ten thousand comments in the first hour, fans noticed that
if you take the first letter of each track, it
spells out a hidden message, though they're still debating what
it means. When asked about potential Grammy submissions, Taylor was thoughtful,
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I'm proud of.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This work regardless of awards.
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But the Girl in the Mirror is probably the most
important song I've ever written. If the Recording Academy connects
with it, that would be meaningful. Music critics who got
early snippets during the interview were already raving. Rolling Stone tweeted,
from what we've heard, this is Swift at her most
confident and experimental. Billboard added, the production is cinema level.
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This is what a one hundred million dollar album sounds like.
The merchandise announcement also caused chaos. Taylor revealed a limited
edition vinyl that changes color and heat, showing hidden lyrics
when warm. The pre order site crashed within minutes. Stub
Hub reported that searches for Taylor Swift twenty twenty six
tour increased by eight thousand percent. During the podcast, TikTok
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went absolutely wild. The audio from Taylor saying I'm done
apologizing for taking up space became an instant trend. Gen
Z creators started making videos about their own Showgirl moments.
The hashtag Showgirl era generated one hundred million views in
twenty four hours. One particularly viral moment was when Jason
asked Taylor about her pre show rituals and she revealed
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she do dos Travis's touchdown dance before going on stage.
The clip of her demonstrating it has been viewed fifty
million times across platforms. ESPN even reposted it, saying the
crossover we didn't know, we need it. Party reactions poured
into Selena Gomes commented, my sister is coming with thirteen
heart emojis. Blake Lively Wait, actually, Blake didn't say anything,
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which fans definitely noticed given their recent rumored rift. But
Gigi Hadid posted mother is Mothering, and Beyonce's mother, Tina
Knowles liked the announcement post, sending fans into theories about
a potential collaboration.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
The economic impact was immediate.
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Spotify reported that Taylor's streams increased by four hundred percent
within hours of the announcement. The Kansas City Tourism Board
posted about expecting swifty visitors for the music video location tours,
even Wall Street took notice. Music industry stocks saw upticks
in after hours trading. Fantasy football fans had their own takes.
One viral tweet read Travis Kelcey's fantasy value just went
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up because Taylor's writing him love songs. The confidence boost
alone is worth a second round pick.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We'll let you know how it ended in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The episode ended with Taylor, Travis, and Jason doing a
champagne tost. Taylor said to new chapters, to family, and
to the fans who make it all possible. Jason got emotional,
saying I'm so happy my brother found you. Travis added,
and I'm happy I found both of you and that
we found a way to break the internet. The final
moments had Taylor teasing, oh and that feature on track nine.
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Let's just say you'll want to be seated when you
hear who it is. It's someone I've wanted to work
with for seventeen years. The speculation is already insane. Beyonce, Rihanna,
Dolly Parton share the theories are endless. As I'm recording this.
The podcast has been streamed over ten million times, making
it the biggest episode in New Heights history. Apple podcasts
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crashed twice from the traffic. YouTube had to add extra servers.
This wasn't just a podcast, It was a cultural moment.
What's beautiful is seeing how the entire Internet came together
to celebrate this. Yeah, there were some haters there always are,
but they were drowned out by the pure joy of
millions of fans worldwide getting fed after five hundred and
fifty five days of drought and swifties.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I have some exciting news for our podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
We've upgraded our social media presence and now have a
Facebook community where you can share your thoughts, theories.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And love for Taylor.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Search for Taylor Swift Today on Facebook or follow the
link in our show notes. I want to hear your
takes on everything we learned today. What song are you
most excited for? What do you think about Travis having
writing credits? Who do you think the track nine feature is.
Join our Facebook community and let's discuss everything. This is
a new era for Taylor and it's a new era
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for our podcast community too. Let's experience the life of
a showgirl together. Thank you for joining me for this
massive special episode. I'm emotionally exhausted but so happy we
got everything we wanted and more.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Taylor on New.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Heights wasn't just an interview. It was a gift to
all of us who've been on this journey with her.
This is Ali still trying to process that Travis Kelcey
is now a credited songwriter on a Taylor Swift album.
The timeline we're living in is absolutely unhinged in the
best way. Stay fearless, Swifties, and I'll see you in
our Facebook community.