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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised. Welcome to the Tea Party
Power Hour. I am your host, Mark Gallar. My very
special guest today Katherine Ingelbricht. She started Through the Vote
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back in two thousand and nine. In twenty eleven, SEAPAC
presented Katherine and True the Vote with the Ronald Reagan
Freedom Award in recognition of their groundbreaking work, and in
twenty twelve, Catherine was named one of Politico's fifty People
to Watch, given to the fifty new and rising talents
on the national political scene. Catherine, Welcome back to the
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Tea Party Power Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, Mark, thanks for having me. Those are days gone by, friend.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm sure it seems like that you've been so much.
And you know I meant it when I said a
very special guest, because you're the real deal. I mean,
if anybody goes to your website and sees everything that
you've got going on, they know that you are in
this for the right reason. You even went to jail
for a few days, right because of some judge wants
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you to give up a source. And when you're willing
to go to jail for your cause and to not
be bullied around by some judge. I mean that just
says it all. I mean, you're legit, you're genuine, So
it is an honor to have you on our show.
One of the things I know you have going on
right now is a movie called We Will Not Be
Silenced that is available on your website through the vote.
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Tell us about that, sure.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So you can see this on our website, or you
can see it where it's actually being posted at a
site called Openinc. Open dot I NK and I mentioned
open Inc specifically because yesterday they also launched another new
movie on j six footage's never been seen before. But
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back to We Will Not Be Silenced. We Will Not
Be Silenced two thousand and eight. Democrat. The Democrat Party
in the battle between Obama and has incident after incident
and worker after worker coming forward and describing the types
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of mass intimidation and subterfuge frankly that the Obama camp
engaged in. And the reason that we put it out
when we did was because we've had the footage for
a while, but I'd long wanted to sort of complete
complete it in a different way. I wanted to kind
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of be able to show how how the machine is
really more selection not election. But you know, when when
it all came to pass with Kamala and we saw
that Obama effectively just you know, anointed her and then
without a vote, she's now, you know, running for an
office that by her own merits, she would never be
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a party two, we thought, this isn't to show America
what really happens behind the scenes out of the mouths
of Democrats themselves who were Hillary supporters and so totally
disillusioned that they that they couldn't believe what they were seeing.
And you know, and flash forward it it's gotten no better.
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Arguably it's gotten much work.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Wow. Yeah. And when you think of the Democrat Party,
I think of a group of people who are going
to be against any measures taken to ensure an accurate vote,
a genuine vote, a fraud free vote. I mean take
voter i D for example. They are somehow convinced African
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Americans that voter I D is a weapon to suppress
the black vote. I've never met an African American person
who doesn't have voter ID. Fox did a thing on this,
and is it suppressing votes? Yet? Suppressing illegal votes from
non citizens who shouldn't be voting in the first place.
In that sense, it does suppress the vote. Does it
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suppress the vote of any legal American citizens? Of course not.
But they're always against it no matter what it is.
You know, require a law to clean up voter rules, No,
we don't want that. So I mean, yeah, have you
ever seen them proactively go after any measure that would
make the vote more accurate, more honest.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, I mean, you know, when they feel like the
argument serves them. You know, let's not forget that. In
twenty sixteen, they were huge champions of the argument that
the machines were untrustworthy and they must be stopped. And
then as soon as that story, the narrative changed. Well,
then it became you know that anybody that even remotely
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suggests that there could be a problem with the machines
is guilty of treason. So it's it's fully it has
a it has an almost spiritual might not you know what,
I'll take the word almost away. It has a spiritual
level to it here. That is because it's inexplicable how
people that it may seem otherwise to be you know,
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average American citizens when it comes to these issues of politics.
How can we be so one hundred and eight opposite
in our view of what common sense is? And I
think it has a lot to do with just some
I can't put my finger on it except to say
that what's happened this country is being split for more
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between good and evil. And that's that's really the only
way I can even come close to rationalizing how an
otherwise sensible person would derive at some of these conclusions.
I just I just don't get it, because it's so
but parent on its face. I mean your point about
voter id. America is the only industrialized country in the
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world that doesn't have a standard form of photo voter identification.
We are the laughing stock of the globe. It's it's
not you know. So how is it that this arment
is so localized in our country, but yet the rest
of the world sees it just as a pro liberty
minded American does.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Even in India, where there's a lot of poverty, they
have a voter card. You know, absolutely, a person who
votes has a voter card. But in the United States
it's voter suppression because we can give one hundred and
fifty billion dollars to the Ukraine's for war, but we
can't afford to spend a few million on voter identification cards.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's it's absolutely it's but it wasn't suppression when they
were pushing the vaccine ID card, right, Oh, that that
was fine in their in their rule book.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I have.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You probably don't notice about me, but I had twenty
two years in pharmaceutical sales. And the one thing I
can tell you is that you cannot create a vaccine
in less than a year and bring it to market
and have it be a safe product. You just can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And I can tell you that whenever all of these
people started screaming, you know, you're anti America and you're
a trader if you won't get the if you won't
get the vaccine, I mean I got mine because I
have an elderly mother, and I said, if you know this,
I don't know, this could end up killing me, but
I'm going to take the vaccine just because I do
not want to be guilty of giving my mother COVID nineteen.
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So I went for it. I wished I hadn't, but
all these people were just so adamant that we were
going to do what they said, even though they weren't
doing it themselves. Whenever they gathered it. When they gathered
in private, they wear masks. Yeah did that?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Did they keep six foot distancing when they were together.
It's interesting Antifa and Black Lives Matter could go on
the streets and be shouldered shoulder and that was okay.
But you couldn't have people in a church parking lot
and separate cars listening to a mass or a service,
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you know, with nowhere aer getting in the car at all,
just listening to it on the radio. They said, no,
you can't do that. I mean, what we saw were
a whole bunch of blue state governors who became little
mini hitlers during that time. And it just gives you,
I hate to use the word, but it just gives
you an idea is if they ever got true power,
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absolute power, how far they would go? I mean, if
they took our guns away, come on it, it'd be
COVID nineteen every day. But look, you guys have so
much going on. We need to get to some of
this stuff. The movie available on the website, take a
look at it. Also, you guys have something going called
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Scan Check Protect.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
What is that Oh, I love scan check fast way,
and I think it's a go eat conversation starter for
people that are like, I want to do something, but
I don't, like, I don't know how to even start
a conversation. Protect us perfect because you can send this
to your friends and say, hey, I just saw this.
Check it out. It's pretty cool. And here's what it does. You.
If you're not registered, you can get registered to vote
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in any state in the country right there from the
from the page of the website. The check part allows
you to look at your voter registration and make sure
it's accurate, so you know that way, there's no curtain
that your address is correct, that it's active and not inactive.
There's you know a lot of just good housekeeping towards
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those ends. And then the last piece, and it's the
one that always surprises folks. The protect part is we're
encouraging people who have moved, and America is very transient.
People move all the time, but they believe that generally
when they move, that their business affairs all move with them,
including voter registration, and that that voter registration from their
previous state would naturally fall off the roles. But that's
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simply not the case. And so what we did we
set it up so that people could look at look
at any state where they previously live, see if they're
still on the roles, and if so, we give them
the very simple steps to have their name removed.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Ah, that's that's a great service. And you know, I'm
here in Brian, Texas, about maybe five miles from Texas
A and M University, and you have all these kids.
They come in, they're eighteen, they're freshmen, they register to vote,
and I'm pretty sure when they grab that diploma, the
first thing on their mind when they're leaving town is
not my voter registration. So right, it's not that they
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would do anything wrong, of course, because they're good aggies.
But there are people that I think might want to
exploit that knowing that there were a bunch of former
students on the roles that no longer live here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So yeah, absolutely, there'd be no there'd be no reason
for them to ever look back and say, let me
just see if that old voter registration I left behind
ever got told, you know, had it dusted off and
used to cast a vote. There's just there's no there's
no accountability there because people don't know it's happening, because
people are shocked that it's happening in twenty twenty four,
when Google knows our every heartbeat. But yet we can't
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get our voter rolls clean.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well, it's not that people can't get their voter rules clean.
They don't want to get their voter rules.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, that's exactly right. It's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, it's definitely one that they appreciate as well. All right, now,
let's talk about have we discussed vote alert yet exactly
how it works and how people participate.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No, Vote alert is another great one, so vote alert.
You can see this on our website. You can also
go look at it at vote alert dot org. It's
a web app, meaning you don't download it to your
phone from the app store. You can just go to
our web page and download it. There. We give you
all the instructions. But the purpose of vote alert is
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to serve as a voters and eleerers who want to
report concerning things that they may be seeing and need answers.
The app is channels that allows the true the Vote
team to help. So if you put in what we
call an incident report, or we have a toll free
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hotline with twenty four hour manned live operators. If you
have a question, you can call. And the multifold first
is to help people as much as we can just
answer a simple question, or you know, maybe it's more
problematic and they need attention immediately and something that they're seeing.
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And then further from that, you know, just the ability
to collect all of this in one place. We're working
with Many of America, which is Michael Lindell's group, and
as much as possible so that we can get as
complete a picture as we can of what really went
on at the polls and in our elections this November
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or I should say, you know this depending on where
you live end of September through November. So so that's
the that's the what we are. We're just we're really
we're already getting really good feedback, a lot of stuff
coming in right now about osins and you can attach
any any kind of document you would like when you
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when you submit a report, set up an account you
can see what's happening in your area, push out your
reports to social media. So it's really meant to add
an important layer of transparency to this whole process.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, now I see here that you're going to be
doing real time reporting in October, which is just a
week away. Talk to us about this real time reporting,
what it's about, what you're going to be reporting on,
and how people can access it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The goal which remains a goal. This is my hope
is that it will be in one place long enough
to provide a daily It's really just still taking shape.
Like you know, I'm not a content creator. I'm a
community organizer. I'm out there working, and so my goal
is to daily put out in some video form an
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update about what's what we're seeing, either with vote Alert
or with the you know, with our data platform and
just the numbers as we're tracking various elements. You know,
we've identified through a previous project called IV three, where
we identified about twenty five million ineligible voting records, and
now we're monitoring to see if those records suddenly become
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linked to ballot requests, so those that's an example, might
be reporting on. But more than anything, it's to establish
a daily checkpoint, a daily cadence, so that people who
are interested feel like they, you know, they have a
line to the inside of what's really going on with
helping devolve to the same level of chaos that we
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did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Gotcha. Well, the next question is one that's very important
to me because I am one of those people that
likes to get on social media and defend my heroes.
And when I saw the attack, the true de Vote
and Dineshasuza were coming under for two thousand mules. I
mean it was ridiculous. I mean, people had absolutely no
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evidence to throw back at you. Now, there were some
things and you explained them to me. We discussed them
back then. But you know, for instance, they said, well,
how come you never if the same people were going
back to the same places over and over and over again,
how come they didn't have footage video footage showing the
same people coming back over and over again. Tell us
why that is. There's a very straightforward income.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a very right. It's a very simple answer. The
video good quality enough or even in most cases, nor
did it even exist. And so that's why we led
the effort with the geospatial side of the equation, if
you will, the cell phones, because that showed device movement,
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and then we tried to bolster it, which with as
much video as we could of course, you know, we
never set out enforcement, and so the whole the whole
project had been approached from the perspective of handing it
to launchs that we are at least somewhat familiar with
and trying not to go beyond that so that they
would pick it up as a serious investigation. But the
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you know what, you what you see when you're looking
at this rough cut footage of cameras. We have millions
of minutes of footage, and most of it really unusable
cameras pointed at the ground, cameras with broken lenses, cameras
that never got turned on. It just it just you know.
And and for the five jurisdictions that we re became
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a part of the movie, the only state that we
had video yet at the time of the movie was
was Georgia. No other state even released or had cameras
in the case of Wisconsin. So you know, this is
this is uh. It was frustrating, but I also understand that,
you know, people don't want to see a black, garbled screen.
They want to see a good, clear image, and there
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just wasn't that much video availables.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, you know, I think that I wish that had
been mentioned more in the movie, and I know Danesh
had control of the movie final cut on the movie,
but that perfectly makes sense. It's like, every time I
revisit this in my mind, I think of you and
Greg standing over a box of crumpled up, mixed up,
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you know, video film. You know, if you've ever seen
movies where somebody looks back and all of a sudden,
the film has come off the reel and there's a
big pile of film. I just imagine you two trying
to dig through all of that nonsense, because they really
weren't provided footage that would have allowed you to do that. Now,
another lie that came out from the left at that
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time was that these were just people driving home from
work because the GPS data that you had was, oh,
how can I put it? Oh only I mean it
was like it it measured everything within a couple of
hundred feet of the drop box, and it could have
just been peeping on the road. Now, you told me
the last time that you triangulated three different sets of
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data and you were actually tooking looking at something more
like they had to get within a yard of the
drop box in order to be counted, or was it
even you know, closer than that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, I mean it really just every every once we
isolated the the devices that seemed to be behaving in
patterns that were anomalous, that didn't look like the rest
of the population, and they separated themselves out pretty cleanly
where you could say, okay, now let's just see what depended,
because you had to really consider where the dropbox was.
And and you know how how the when we when
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we did when wed, our definition of trips to the
dropbox only counted when after we had geofence to dropbox
and geofens did it fairly tightly. I mean within you know,
a few feet either side. We only counted it when
the ping of the cell phone went off inside of
that geo fence. However, again, the way they left, you know,
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the way the left likes to go on the attack
we're basing things off of is our initial release that
that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation put out, which is
what journalists you know, quote unquote journalists Sea Zone, which
was that we had we had provided data with the
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first cut at one hundred feet. Because law enforcement they
can't just take what we say at face value. They
have to recreate everything, and so you try to give
them a meaningful look in so that they can begin
proving things up themselves. At least that's the way they
been explained to us. So that's how we handed it over.
But we are the idea that you know, oh, someone
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just driving home from doesn't hold water because that the
signals that are coming off of your cell phone allow
you to track. You're looking at latitude, longitude time, and
then an elevation and with those data points you can
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do velocity. And so if someone's driving by, you're not
going to get you know, you'll get a ping at
one place and then a ping you know, hundreds of
potentially hundreds of yards away, and you're not going to
see that consistent pattern. We work diligently to scrub all
of this diligently to work through the video and then
you know, it's still told. It a powerful story in
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the movie, but there's a huge difference between a research
casies that went into it and you know, well, what's
made for a big screen just is this the nature
of movie making that we had no control over, but
you know, and are now involved in a lawsuit over So.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
That lawsuit involves one person who is delivering only members
or something that ended up making it into the final
cut of the movie. So they're basically coming after you
for that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Is that the gist of it, or I don't want
to get too deep into it that I would say
that's that's a that's one gist of it. We would
take a slightly different approach to that. But you know, again,
all I can all I can really speak to is
that you know, we had no editorial control of what
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went into the movie, and things challenging, but we stand
by our work.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I'm sure you do. And one of the things you
found out, and as I told you when I was
explaining that we had a musual friend named Mike Zulu
who had been sure a Prio's head guy during the
Obama vital statistics stuff, is that I know, not to
the extent that I've gone to jail for it, but
I know what it feels like to have someone write
an article and say you're a liar. I mean, right now,
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there is still a still an article on the Internet
that says more lies than a straw man from mark Alaar.
And it's like I've had to the guys had to
go back and edit it three times to take stuff
out that wasn't true, but he still left the article
and the title up even though he can't tell me
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what the lie was and he can't tell me what
the straw man was. But the bottom line is is
that it you know, it kind of you know, just
to kind of, as Mike Zula said, if somebody tells
you to your face that you know you're a liar,
it's not pleasant. But when you turn on the eating
use and somebody's seeing you're a liar, you go to
the Internet and somebody's written an entire article calling you
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a liar, it it kind of sucks, you know. And
I know you guys have come under tremendous heat because
the stuff you have uncovered is so damaging to the left. Now,
hopefully we're not going to have this time. I want
to end this thing on a happy note. So I
want you to tell me, especially from a drop box standpoint,
what's going to be different this time? What have you
got going?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, a lot of things. First is that most of
the states that we looked at, with the exception of Michigan,
have either done away with or radically curtailed their use
of drop boxes and it states like you know, Wisconsin.
Wisconsin had I don't know how many. I don't remember
how many they had in twenty twenty we only looked
at Milwaukee County, but they had hundreds, nearly six hundred.
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And then a Supreme Court that had a more conservative
profile back in twenty twenty three disallowed drug were never
legal to begin with, we're getting rid of them. And
so for you know, a period of time, everybody thought
Wisconsin had done away with the drop boxes. Then Supreme
Court mixed up, changed in an election, and suddenly you
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had a court do something that's very remarkable, which was
to take a previously decided case and open it back
up and re readjudicate. And their judgment was then that
drop boxes were legal. So they once decided that it
was legal, now they decided it was legal. But what
happened next was pretty great because we were all watching
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to say, okay, well, they're probably going to have you
know again, in nearly six hundred municipalities counties themselves began
to stand up and say you're not doing that here.
So where the state is now is around sixty between
sixty and seventy state wide. That's the result of citizens
telling their local officials do not bring those things here.
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And I think that's a huge victory. But even still
for those and for the ones that they have in
Pennsylvania or another one, I'll tell you that's a great victory.
Is in right, which is what was one of the
areas of our project that we took a look in
twenty twenty. They are live streaming their own footage from
their drop boxes and we're going to be, you know,
we're going to be a providing an easy way to
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look at all that, but they're they're doing it themselves,
which is which is great. And then the last thing
I'll say that is we think is super encouraging is
that where there are drop boxes and Michigan State going
to be the big problem. Michigan's going to have like
eleven hundred drop boxes, but where but where we are
what we're doing to step in that gap, even even
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though it's even though the you know, the margins have
been narrowed for the good, we are working to provide
surveillance cameras and live feed so that we can get
eyes on the drop boxes. Is that they're being monitored,
but but runs that video in near real time for
the public. So we're going to be hosting a website
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where you can watch what's happened. And our hope, frankly,
is that nobody sees anything wrong. Our hope is that
it has such a deterrent effect that there are no problems.
It's kind of the interesting thing about in the space
of election integrity is you don't want there to be
any problems. You don't. I don't you know, I harvesting,
I don't. I just want it to be okay. I
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just want the process to be free and fair for everyone.
And so when you introduce a level of of consistency
and security, it's going to deter the bad actors. And
we're excited about it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
One of the things that really bothered me about the
last election is I heard that huge piles of paper
ballots that only voted in the presidential election, didn't vote
in any downstream elections whatsoever, were found, and that the
circles on the ballots looked like they had been filled
in by a printer. They were too perfect to have
been filled in by a person with a number two pencil.
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What do you know about that? It seems like that
just kind of faded away. Nobody's talking about it anymore.
But to me, that's a big that's very problematic. Whenever, Okay,
here's here's another million votes and every one of them
is for Joe Biden, none of them are for Donald Trump,
and oh they didn't vote any downstream elections. That just
screams fraud.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I would agree with that, and candidly, like you, even
though I eat, sleep and breathe this, you just lost
I lost track of all of the allegi of what
happened in twenty twenty It's another reason that we think
Vote Alert is so important, as maybe one of many
I don't know, but certainly one that we can through
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the vote can attest to being a source of truth
for what's happening on the ground in twenty twenty four.
Because it becomes so overwhelming in your instant that you
step forward with that kind of evidence, the character assassination
of the messenger immediately begins. Oh sure, an honest hearing,
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I mean, and these I mean we through the vote.
It's just you know, we're going to things forward and
let's prove them up or down. If we prove that
they're not true, okay, then you know we'll all learn
from that and we'll all, you know, no better next time,
or improve process to make it clearer next weight. But
because the machine, the propaganda machine that exists so immediately
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shuts down debate, we never have a chance to to
really learn or grow or recognize. Okay, that wasn't quite
right for these reasons, but this is troubling, and you know,
we just we never have a chance for that kind
of after action report because it's so hyper political, which
which again screams cover up, like why can't we just
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talk about it if we're wrong, let's just let's just
you know, run it to ground and prove it. But
you never have an opportunity to do that because of
all of the just you know, from from law fair
to as I say, you know, propaganda and and and
it happens that it's it's just becomes impossible. But we're
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going to steady on.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You mentioned the cameras. I saw somewhere as I reviewed
literature for today's interview that you have a wait for
people to participate by donating for cameras and so forth
to help you guys wanted for these jot boxes.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yes, so true votes. If I have a one C
three nonprofit, we take donations that are all tax deductible.
Right now, our focus is on trying to raise money
to just get as many cameras on as many dropboxes
as we can. And there's a lot of pieces to that.
There's the camera, there's the software and analytics that support
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the live feed. There's potentially the need to have a
human with the camera that is working to make sure
that you're getting a good feed. And all of that
costs money. So that's what that is our focus right
now in our fundraising efforts.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And they can just go to truevote dot com and
it will be immediately your parent how they can donate
to this specific cause.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Uh yeah, True the Vote. It's actually true vote dot
org and you can click donate dot com still forwards
there in President Trump for the longest has called us
truth the Vote. So I finally went and bought the
r L Truth the Vote, so it points to us too,
so you know, you do what you gotta do, but
but yeah, you can done it. I think them added
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a drop down so that when you make a donation
you can say this is for okay, totally candid. I'm
not sure, but I can just tell you as a
practical mass where we're you know, that's where fulfill as
much as we can there. And I've gotten where we
need to be with Wisconsin, and our next look at
is going to be into Pennsylvania in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, you guys are certainly not just talking the talk,
but walking the walk. I mean, let's be honest, there
are a lot of organizations out there that aren't much
more than a website. But my goodness, you guys are
doing so much to get things right. You did so
much back in twenty twenty, only to be beaten over
the head for it.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean, yeah, well you know, I mean it's not
fun to read, and certainly it's not fun for your
heed and lawsuits and so forth. But we believe in
what we've done. We know we have presented is accurate
despite what mainstream tried to do. We believe. So, you know,
one last question all you can do?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Sure, one last question? Will there be any geo tracking
done this time?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Interesting thing about geotracking is you can go back four
years in two so at this point we can make
a much very first go round, but it's also extremely expensive.
If we if we do, it will be, it will
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be well, we will approach it differently than we did
last time, at a little older, a little wiser, but
it's absolutely within a few key strokes of our grasp.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So it's not off the table.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Not off the table. We just have to be We
just have to be mindful of the You know, you can't.
What we said when we were doing the project back
in twenty twenty twenty twenty one is you can't go
halfway projected. You have got to be fully committed, and
it is not simple. You suck up tremendous amounts of
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data and then you've got to be committed to an
iterative months and it's a very time consuming process. So
you know, while I don't want to leave, we've gotten
fairly adept at it over these years, and we know
how to get the data, we know how to prove
it up, and if it's necessary, we'll absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Very good Catherine Engelbrick True the vote, and I'm going
to make a quick little speech to my listeners. So
many people call me and ask Mark, how did we
get here? Mark? How do we get out of this?
You get out of it by participating. And one of
the ways you can participate, very easy to do is
go to truethvote dot org, look at something they've got
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going on and make a donation toward helping that. You
don't have to be the person that watches the drop
box all night long, but you can certainly be the
person who donates to help support that project. Same thing
with the cameras. Nobody's asking you to stand outside with
the dropbox and a camera all night long, but you
can donate to help them buy some cameras. You know,
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this is one of those things where this is such
an important election, such a pivot point in American history,
a watershed moment. We're going to go one way or
the other. Either we're headed toward communism or we're going
to take back our freedoms. And one of the ways
you can do that is get involved with a legitimate
group like True the Vote. Participate in any way you can.
If you want to donate I guess human resources you can,
(33:35):
if you want to donate money. You can help them
in any way you can. But you know, after the election,
if it doesn't turn out the way that's going to
save freedom, don't say, gee, I wonder if there's something
I could have done. There is something you can do.
I'm telling you about it right now. Go to truthvote
dot org get involved, subscribe to their newsletter, subscribe to
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True the Vote itself, and you will be in and
constant awareness of what's going on to prevent another twenty twenty.
Catherine Engelbrink, once again, thanks for being here. I admire
what you guys do so much, so keep up the
great work.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Thank you so much. Mark, appreciate it. Appreciate what you do.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Bye bye, bubbye. You've been listening to The Tea Party
Power Hour with Mark Gila
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised. Welcome to the Tea Party
Power Hour. I am your host, Mark Gallar. My very
special guest today Katherine Ingelbricht. She started Through the Vote
(00:24):
back in two thousand and nine. In twenty eleven, SEAPAC
presented Katherine and True the Vote with the Ronald Reagan
Freedom Award in recognition of their groundbreaking work, and in
twenty twelve, Catherine was named one of Politico's fifty People
to Watch, given to the fifty new and rising talents
on the national political scene. Catherine, Welcome back to the
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Tea Party Power Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, Mark, thanks for having me. Those are days gone by, friend.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm sure it seems like that you've been so much.
And you know I meant it when I said a
very special guest, because you're the real deal. I mean,
if anybody goes to your website and sees everything that
you've got going on, they know that you are in
this for the right reason. You even went to jail
for a few days, right because of some judge wants
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you to give up a source. And when you're willing
to go to jail for your cause and to not
be bullied around by some judge. I mean that just
says it all. I mean, you're legit, you're genuine, So
it is an honor to have you on our show.
One of the things I know you have going on
right now is a movie called We Will Not Be
Silenced that is available on your website through the vote.
(01:38):
Tell us about that, sure.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So you can see this on our website, or you
can see it where it's actually being posted at a
site called Openinc. Open dot I NK and I mentioned
open Inc specifically because yesterday they also launched another new
movie on j six footage's never been seen before. But
(02:01):
back to We Will Not Be Silenced. We Will Not
Be Silenced two thousand and eight. Democrat. The Democrat Party
in the battle between Obama and has incident after incident
and worker after worker coming forward and describing the types
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of mass intimidation and subterfuge frankly that the Obama camp
engaged in. And the reason that we put it out
when we did was because we've had the footage for
a while, but I'd long wanted to sort of complete
complete it in a different way. I wanted to kind
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of be able to show how how the machine is
really more selection not election. But you know, when when
it all came to pass with Kamala and we saw
that Obama effectively just you know, anointed her and then
without a vote, she's now, you know, running for an
office that by her own merits, she would never be
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a party two, we thought, this isn't to show America
what really happens behind the scenes out of the mouths
of Democrats themselves who were Hillary supporters and so totally
disillusioned that they that they couldn't believe what they were seeing.
And you know, and flash forward it it's gotten no better.
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Arguably it's gotten much work.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Wow. Yeah. And when you think of the Democrat Party,
I think of a group of people who are going
to be against any measures taken to ensure an accurate vote,
a genuine vote, a fraud free vote. I mean take
voter i D for example. They are somehow convinced African
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Americans that voter I D is a weapon to suppress
the black vote. I've never met an African American person
who doesn't have voter ID. Fox did a thing on this,
and is it suppressing votes? Yet? Suppressing illegal votes from
non citizens who shouldn't be voting in the first place.
In that sense, it does suppress the vote. Does it
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suppress the vote of any legal American citizens? Of course not.
But they're always against it no matter what it is.
You know, require a law to clean up voter rules, No,
we don't want that. So I mean, yeah, have you
ever seen them proactively go after any measure that would
make the vote more accurate, more honest.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, I mean, you know, when they feel like the
argument serves them. You know, let's not forget that. In
twenty sixteen, they were huge champions of the argument that
the machines were untrustworthy and they must be stopped. And
then as soon as that story, the narrative changed. Well,
then it became you know that anybody that even remotely
(04:54):
suggests that there could be a problem with the machines
is guilty of treason. So it's it's fully it has
a it has an almost spiritual might not you know what,
I'll take the word almost away. It has a spiritual
level to it here. That is because it's inexplicable how
people that it may seem otherwise to be you know,
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average American citizens when it comes to these issues of politics.
How can we be so one hundred and eight opposite
in our view of what common sense is? And I
think it has a lot to do with just some
I can't put my finger on it except to say
that what's happened this country is being split for more
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between good and evil. And that's that's really the only
way I can even come close to rationalizing how an
otherwise sensible person would derive at some of these conclusions.
I just I just don't get it, because it's so
but parent on its face. I mean your point about
voter id. America is the only industrialized country in the
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world that doesn't have a standard form of photo voter identification.
We are the laughing stock of the globe. It's it's
not you know. So how is it that this arment
is so localized in our country, but yet the rest
of the world sees it just as a pro liberty
minded American does.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Even in India, where there's a lot of poverty, they
have a voter card. You know, absolutely, a person who
votes has a voter card. But in the United States
it's voter suppression because we can give one hundred and
fifty billion dollars to the Ukraine's for war, but we
can't afford to spend a few million on voter identification cards.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's it's absolutely it's but it wasn't suppression when they
were pushing the vaccine ID card, right, Oh, that that
was fine in their in their rule book.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I have.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You probably don't notice about me, but I had twenty
two years in pharmaceutical sales. And the one thing I
can tell you is that you cannot create a vaccine
in less than a year and bring it to market
and have it be a safe product. You just can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And I can tell you that whenever all of these
people started screaming, you know, you're anti America and you're
a trader if you won't get the if you won't
get the vaccine, I mean I got mine because I
have an elderly mother, and I said, if you know this,
I don't know, this could end up killing me, but
I'm going to take the vaccine just because I do
not want to be guilty of giving my mother COVID nineteen.
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So I went for it. I wished I hadn't, but
all these people were just so adamant that we were
going to do what they said, even though they weren't
doing it themselves. Whenever they gathered it. When they gathered
in private, they wear masks. Yeah did that?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Did they keep six foot distancing when they were together.
It's interesting Antifa and Black Lives Matter could go on
the streets and be shouldered shoulder and that was okay.
But you couldn't have people in a church parking lot
and separate cars listening to a mass or a service,
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you know, with nowhere aer getting in the car at all,
just listening to it on the radio. They said, no,
you can't do that. I mean, what we saw were
a whole bunch of blue state governors who became little
mini hitlers during that time. And it just gives you,
I hate to use the word, but it just gives
you an idea is if they ever got true power,
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absolute power, how far they would go? I mean, if
they took our guns away, come on it, it'd be
COVID nineteen every day. But look, you guys have so
much going on. We need to get to some of
this stuff. The movie available on the website, take a
look at it. Also, you guys have something going called
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Scan Check Protect.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
What is that Oh, I love scan check fast way,
and I think it's a go eat conversation starter for
people that are like, I want to do something, but
I don't, like, I don't know how to even start
a conversation. Protect us perfect because you can send this
to your friends and say, hey, I just saw this.
Check it out. It's pretty cool. And here's what it does. You.
If you're not registered, you can get registered to vote
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in any state in the country right there from the
from the page of the website. The check part allows
you to look at your voter registration and make sure
it's accurate, so you know that way, there's no curtain
that your address is correct, that it's active and not inactive.
There's you know a lot of just good housekeeping towards
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those ends. And then the last piece, and it's the
one that always surprises folks. The protect part is we're
encouraging people who have moved, and America is very transient.
People move all the time, but they believe that generally
when they move, that their business affairs all move with them,
including voter registration, and that that voter registration from their
previous state would naturally fall off the roles. But that's
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simply not the case. And so what we did we
set it up so that people could look at look
at any state where they previously live, see if they're
still on the roles, and if so, we give them
the very simple steps to have their name removed.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Ah, that's that's a great service. And you know, I'm
here in Brian, Texas, about maybe five miles from Texas
A and M University, and you have all these kids.
They come in, they're eighteen, they're freshmen, they register to vote,
and I'm pretty sure when they grab that diploma, the
first thing on their mind when they're leaving town is
not my voter registration. So right, it's not that they
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would do anything wrong, of course, because they're good aggies.
But there are people that I think might want to
exploit that knowing that there were a bunch of former
students on the roles that no longer live here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So yeah, absolutely, there'd be no there'd be no reason
for them to ever look back and say, let me
just see if that old voter registration I left behind
ever got told, you know, had it dusted off and
used to cast a vote. There's just there's no there's
no accountability there because people don't know it's happening, because
people are shocked that it's happening in twenty twenty four,
when Google knows our every heartbeat. But yet we can't
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get our voter rolls clean.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well, it's not that people can't get their voter rules clean.
They don't want to get their voter rules.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, that's exactly right. It's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, it's definitely one that they appreciate as well. All right, now,
let's talk about have we discussed vote alert yet exactly
how it works and how people participate.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No, Vote alert is another great one, so vote alert.
You can see this on our website. You can also
go look at it at vote alert dot org. It's
a web app, meaning you don't download it to your
phone from the app store. You can just go to
our web page and download it. There. We give you
all the instructions. But the purpose of vote alert is
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to serve as a voters and eleerers who want to
report concerning things that they may be seeing and need answers.
The app is channels that allows the true the Vote
team to help. So if you put in what we
call an incident report, or we have a toll free
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hotline with twenty four hour manned live operators. If you
have a question, you can call. And the multifold first
is to help people as much as we can just
answer a simple question, or you know, maybe it's more
problematic and they need attention immediately and something that they're seeing.
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And then further from that, you know, just the ability
to collect all of this in one place. We're working
with Many of America, which is Michael Lindell's group, and
as much as possible so that we can get as
complete a picture as we can of what really went
on at the polls and in our elections this November
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or I should say, you know this depending on where
you live end of September through November. So so that's
the that's the what we are. We're just we're really
we're already getting really good feedback, a lot of stuff
coming in right now about osins and you can attach
any any kind of document you would like when you
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when you submit a report, set up an account you
can see what's happening in your area, push out your
reports to social media. So it's really meant to add
an important layer of transparency to this whole process.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, now I see here that you're going to be
doing real time reporting in October, which is just a
week away. Talk to us about this real time reporting,
what it's about, what you're going to be reporting on,
and how people can access it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The goal which remains a goal. This is my hope
is that it will be in one place long enough
to provide a daily It's really just still taking shape.
Like you know, I'm not a content creator. I'm a
community organizer. I'm out there working, and so my goal
is to daily put out in some video form an
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update about what's what we're seeing, either with vote Alert
or with the you know, with our data platform and
just the numbers as we're tracking various elements. You know,
we've identified through a previous project called IV three, where
we identified about twenty five million ineligible voting records, and
now we're monitoring to see if those records suddenly become
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linked to ballot requests, so those that's an example, might
be reporting on. But more than anything, it's to establish
a daily checkpoint, a daily cadence, so that people who
are interested feel like they, you know, they have a
line to the inside of what's really going on with
helping devolve to the same level of chaos that we
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did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Gotcha. Well, the next question is one that's very important
to me because I am one of those people that
likes to get on social media and defend my heroes.
And when I saw the attack, the true de Vote
and Dineshasuza were coming under for two thousand mules. I
mean it was ridiculous. I mean, people had absolutely no
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evidence to throw back at you. Now, there were some
things and you explained them to me. We discussed them
back then. But you know, for instance, they said, well,
how come you never if the same people were going
back to the same places over and over and over again,
how come they didn't have footage video footage showing the
same people coming back over and over again. Tell us
why that is. There's a very straightforward income.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a very right. It's a very simple answer. The
video good quality enough or even in most cases, nor
did it even exist. And so that's why we led
the effort with the geospatial side of the equation, if
you will, the cell phones, because that showed device movement,
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and then we tried to bolster it, which with as
much video as we could of course, you know, we
never set out enforcement, and so the whole the whole
project had been approached from the perspective of handing it
to launchs that we are at least somewhat familiar with
and trying not to go beyond that so that they
would pick it up as a serious investigation. But the
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you know what, you what you see when you're looking
at this rough cut footage of cameras. We have millions
of minutes of footage, and most of it really unusable
cameras pointed at the ground, cameras with broken lenses, cameras
that never got turned on. It just it just you know.
And and for the five jurisdictions that we re became
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a part of the movie, the only state that we
had video yet at the time of the movie was
was Georgia. No other state even released or had cameras
in the case of Wisconsin. So you know, this is
this is uh. It was frustrating, but I also understand that,
you know, people don't want to see a black, garbled screen.
They want to see a good, clear image, and there
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just wasn't that much video availables.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, you know, I think that I wish that had
been mentioned more in the movie, and I know Danesh
had control of the movie final cut on the movie,
but that perfectly makes sense. It's like, every time I
revisit this in my mind, I think of you and
Greg standing over a box of crumpled up, mixed up,
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you know, video film. You know, if you've ever seen
movies where somebody looks back and all of a sudden,
the film has come off the reel and there's a
big pile of film. I just imagine you two trying
to dig through all of that nonsense, because they really
weren't provided footage that would have allowed you to do that. Now,
another lie that came out from the left at that
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time was that these were just people driving home from
work because the GPS data that you had was, oh,
how can I put it? Oh only I mean it
was like it it measured everything within a couple of
hundred feet of the drop box, and it could have
just been peeping on the road. Now, you told me
the last time that you triangulated three different sets of
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data and you were actually tooking looking at something more
like they had to get within a yard of the
drop box in order to be counted, or was it
even you know, closer than that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, I mean it really just every every once we
isolated the the devices that seemed to be behaving in
patterns that were anomalous, that didn't look like the rest
of the population, and they separated themselves out pretty cleanly
where you could say, okay, now let's just see what depended,
because you had to really consider where the dropbox was.
And and you know how how the when we when
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we did when wed, our definition of trips to the
dropbox only counted when after we had geofence to dropbox
and geofens did it fairly tightly. I mean within you know,
a few feet either side. We only counted it when
the ping of the cell phone went off inside of
that geo fence. However, again, the way they left, you know,
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the way the left likes to go on the attack
we're basing things off of is our initial release that
that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation put out, which is
what journalists you know, quote unquote journalists Sea Zone, which
was that we had we had provided data with the
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first cut at one hundred feet. Because law enforcement they
can't just take what we say at face value. They
have to recreate everything, and so you try to give
them a meaningful look in so that they can begin
proving things up themselves. At least that's the way they
been explained to us. So that's how we handed it over.
But we are the idea that you know, oh, someone
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just driving home from doesn't hold water because that the
signals that are coming off of your cell phone allow
you to track. You're looking at latitude, longitude time, and
then an elevation and with those data points you can
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do velocity. And so if someone's driving by, you're not
going to get you know, you'll get a ping at
one place and then a ping you know, hundreds of
potentially hundreds of yards away, and you're not going to
see that consistent pattern. We work diligently to scrub all
of this diligently to work through the video and then
you know, it's still told. It a powerful story in
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the movie, but there's a huge difference between a research
casies that went into it and you know, well, what's
made for a big screen just is this the nature
of movie making that we had no control over, but
you know, and are now involved in a lawsuit over So.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
That lawsuit involves one person who is delivering only members
or something that ended up making it into the final
cut of the movie. So they're basically coming after you
for that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Is that the gist of it, or I don't want
to get too deep into it that I would say
that's that's a that's one gist of it. We would
take a slightly different approach to that. But you know, again,
all I can all I can really speak to is
that you know, we had no editorial control of what
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went into the movie, and things challenging, but we stand
by our work.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I'm sure you do. And one of the things you
found out, and as I told you when I was
explaining that we had a musual friend named Mike Zulu
who had been sure a Prio's head guy during the
Obama vital statistics stuff, is that I know, not to
the extent that I've gone to jail for it, but
I know what it feels like to have someone write
an article and say you're a liar. I mean, right now,
(21:55):
there is still a still an article on the Internet
that says more lies than a straw man from mark Alaar.
And it's like I've had to the guys had to
go back and edit it three times to take stuff
out that wasn't true, but he still left the article
and the title up even though he can't tell me
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what the lie was and he can't tell me what
the straw man was. But the bottom line is is
that it you know, it kind of you know, just
to kind of, as Mike Zula said, if somebody tells
you to your face that you know you're a liar,
it's not pleasant. But when you turn on the eating
use and somebody's seeing you're a liar, you go to
the Internet and somebody's written an entire article calling you
(22:36):
a liar, it it kind of sucks, you know. And
I know you guys have come under tremendous heat because
the stuff you have uncovered is so damaging to the left. Now,
hopefully we're not going to have this time. I want
to end this thing on a happy note. So I
want you to tell me, especially from a drop box standpoint,
what's going to be different this time? What have you
got going?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, a lot of things. First is that most of
the states that we looked at, with the exception of Michigan,
have either done away with or radically curtailed their use
of drop boxes and it states like you know, Wisconsin.
Wisconsin had I don't know how many. I don't remember
how many they had in twenty twenty we only looked
at Milwaukee County, but they had hundreds, nearly six hundred.
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And then a Supreme Court that had a more conservative
profile back in twenty twenty three disallowed drug were never
legal to begin with, we're getting rid of them. And
so for you know, a period of time, everybody thought
Wisconsin had done away with the drop boxes. Then Supreme
Court mixed up, changed in an election, and suddenly you
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had a court do something that's very remarkable, which was
to take a previously decided case and open it back
up and re readjudicate. And their judgment was then that
drop boxes were legal. So they once decided that it
was legal, now they decided it was legal. But what
happened next was pretty great because we were all watching
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to say, okay, well, they're probably going to have you
know again, in nearly six hundred municipalities counties themselves began
to stand up and say you're not doing that here.
So where the state is now is around sixty between
sixty and seventy state wide. That's the result of citizens
telling their local officials do not bring those things here.
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And I think that's a huge victory. But even still
for those and for the ones that they have in
Pennsylvania or another one, I'll tell you that's a great victory.
Is in right, which is what was one of the
areas of our project that we took a look in
twenty twenty. They are live streaming their own footage from
their drop boxes and we're going to be, you know,
we're going to be a providing an easy way to
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look at all that, but they're they're doing it themselves,
which is which is great. And then the last thing
I'll say that is we think is super encouraging is
that where there are drop boxes and Michigan State going
to be the big problem. Michigan's going to have like
eleven hundred drop boxes, but where but where we are
what we're doing to step in that gap, even even
(25:11):
though it's even though the you know, the margins have
been narrowed for the good, we are working to provide
surveillance cameras and live feed so that we can get
eyes on the drop boxes. Is that they're being monitored,
but but runs that video in near real time for
the public. So we're going to be hosting a website
(25:32):
where you can watch what's happened. And our hope, frankly,
is that nobody sees anything wrong. Our hope is that
it has such a deterrent effect that there are no problems.
It's kind of the interesting thing about in the space
of election integrity is you don't want there to be
any problems. You don't. I don't you know, I harvesting,
I don't. I just want it to be okay. I
(25:52):
just want the process to be free and fair for everyone.
And so when you introduce a level of of consistency
and security, it's going to deter the bad actors. And
we're excited about it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
One of the things that really bothered me about the
last election is I heard that huge piles of paper
ballots that only voted in the presidential election, didn't vote
in any downstream elections whatsoever, were found, and that the
circles on the ballots looked like they had been filled
in by a printer. They were too perfect to have
been filled in by a person with a number two pencil.
(26:32):
What do you know about that? It seems like that
just kind of faded away. Nobody's talking about it anymore.
But to me, that's a big that's very problematic. Whenever, Okay,
here's here's another million votes and every one of them
is for Joe Biden, none of them are for Donald Trump,
and oh they didn't vote any downstream elections. That just
screams fraud.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I would agree with that, and candidly, like you, even
though I eat, sleep and breathe this, you just lost
I lost track of all of the allegi of what
happened in twenty twenty It's another reason that we think
Vote Alert is so important, as maybe one of many
I don't know, but certainly one that we can through
(27:11):
the vote can attest to being a source of truth
for what's happening on the ground in twenty twenty four.
Because it becomes so overwhelming in your instant that you
step forward with that kind of evidence, the character assassination
of the messenger immediately begins. Oh sure, an honest hearing,
(27:35):
I mean, and these I mean we through the vote.
It's just you know, we're going to things forward and
let's prove them up or down. If we prove that
they're not true, okay, then you know we'll all learn
from that and we'll all, you know, no better next time,
or improve process to make it clearer next weight. But
because the machine, the propaganda machine that exists so immediately
(27:58):
shuts down debate, we never have a chance to to
really learn or grow or recognize. Okay, that wasn't quite
right for these reasons, but this is troubling, and you know,
we just we never have a chance for that kind
of after action report because it's so hyper political, which
which again screams cover up, like why can't we just
(28:19):
talk about it if we're wrong, let's just let's just
you know, run it to ground and prove it. But
you never have an opportunity to do that because of
all of the just you know, from from law fair
to as I say, you know, propaganda and and and
it happens that it's it's just becomes impossible. But we're
(28:42):
going to steady on.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You mentioned the cameras. I saw somewhere as I reviewed
literature for today's interview that you have a wait for
people to participate by donating for cameras and so forth
to help you guys wanted for these jot boxes.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yes, so true votes. If I have a one C
three nonprofit, we take donations that are all tax deductible.
Right now, our focus is on trying to raise money
to just get as many cameras on as many dropboxes
as we can. And there's a lot of pieces to that.
There's the camera, there's the software and analytics that support
(29:22):
the live feed. There's potentially the need to have a
human with the camera that is working to make sure
that you're getting a good feed. And all of that
costs money. So that's what that is our focus right
now in our fundraising efforts.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And they can just go to truevote dot com and
it will be immediately your parent how they can donate
to this specific cause.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Uh yeah, True the Vote. It's actually true vote dot
org and you can click donate dot com still forwards
there in President Trump for the longest has called us
truth the Vote. So I finally went and bought the
r L Truth the Vote, so it points to us too,
so you know, you do what you gotta do, but
but yeah, you can done it. I think them added
(30:05):
a drop down so that when you make a donation
you can say this is for okay, totally candid. I'm
not sure, but I can just tell you as a
practical mass where we're you know, that's where fulfill as
much as we can there. And I've gotten where we
need to be with Wisconsin, and our next look at
is going to be into Pennsylvania in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, you guys are certainly not just talking the talk,
but walking the walk. I mean, let's be honest, there
are a lot of organizations out there that aren't much
more than a website. But my goodness, you guys are
doing so much to get things right. You did so
much back in twenty twenty, only to be beaten over
the head for it.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean, yeah, well you know, I mean it's not
fun to read, and certainly it's not fun for your
heed and lawsuits and so forth. But we believe in
what we've done. We know we have presented is accurate
despite what mainstream tried to do. We believe. So, you know,
one last question all you can do?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Sure, one last question? Will there be any geo tracking
done this time?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Interesting thing about geotracking is you can go back four
years in two so at this point we can make
a much very first go round, but it's also extremely expensive.
If we if we do, it will be, it will
(31:35):
be well, we will approach it differently than we did
last time, at a little older, a little wiser, but
it's absolutely within a few key strokes of our grasp.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So it's not off the table.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Not off the table. We just have to be We
just have to be mindful of the You know, you can't.
What we said when we were doing the project back
in twenty twenty twenty twenty one is you can't go
halfway projected. You have got to be fully committed, and
it is not simple. You suck up tremendous amounts of
(32:09):
data and then you've got to be committed to an
iterative months and it's a very time consuming process. So
you know, while I don't want to leave, we've gotten
fairly adept at it over these years, and we know
how to get the data, we know how to prove
it up, and if it's necessary, we'll absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Very good Catherine Engelbrick True the vote, and I'm going
to make a quick little speech to my listeners. So
many people call me and ask Mark, how did we
get here? Mark? How do we get out of this?
You get out of it by participating. And one of
the ways you can participate, very easy to do is
go to truethvote dot org, look at something they've got
(32:51):
going on and make a donation toward helping that. You
don't have to be the person that watches the drop
box all night long, but you can certainly be the
person who donates to help support that project. Same thing
with the cameras. Nobody's asking you to stand outside with
the dropbox and a camera all night long, but you
can donate to help them buy some cameras. You know,
(33:13):
this is one of those things where this is such
an important election, such a pivot point in American history,
a watershed moment. We're going to go one way or
the other. Either we're headed toward communism or we're going
to take back our freedoms. And one of the ways
you can do that is get involved with a legitimate
group like True the Vote. Participate in any way you can.
If you want to donate I guess human resources you can,
(33:35):
if you want to donate money. You can help them
in any way you can. But you know, after the election,
if it doesn't turn out the way that's going to
save freedom, don't say, gee, I wonder if there's something
I could have done. There is something you can do.
I'm telling you about it right now. Go to truthvote
dot org get involved, subscribe to their newsletter, subscribe to
(33:56):
True the Vote itself, and you will be in and
constant awareness of what's going on to prevent another twenty twenty.
Catherine Engelbrink, once again, thanks for being here. I admire
what you guys do so much, so keep up the
great work.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Thank you so much. Mark, appreciate it. Appreciate what you do.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Bye bye, bubbye. You've been listening to The Tea Party
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