August 22, 2024 • 40 mins
Donald Jeffries’s novel The Unreals has been lauded by the likes of multi–award-winning author Alexander Theroux and Night at the Museum screenwriter R. Ben Garant. His first nonfiction book, Hidden History, has earned the praise of everyone from political operative Roger Stone to international peace activist Cindy Sheehan to former Congressperson Cynthia McKinney. He is also the author of Crimes and Cover-ups in American Politics: 1776–1963 and Survival of the Richest. Jeffries lives in Fairfax County, Virginia
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome to the Tea Party Power Hour. My name is
Mark Gallar. My special guest today is mister Donald Jeffries.
He is the author of the novel The Unreals. He's
also written a nonfiction book, Hidden History. He's the author
of Crimes and cover Ups in American Politics Survival of
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the Richest. But he's here today to talk to us
about his brand new book, American Memory Hole. How the
Court Historians promote disinformation. Mister Jeffries, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now let's talk about the title before we go any further.
It says how the court historians promote disinformation. On the book,
you talk about the person who coin that term court historians.
But before we go any further with our listeners today,
tell us what that means.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, I think I think it's a great term. Here
at the professor Harriol labar And who had his career ruined.
He was a liberal and good standing and then he
came out against World War One and that was it
for him. And that doesn't take much, No, it doesn't
take much. And you see even that's that's why when
people read my books, like in this book, you'll see
that FDR was the first one. He had canceled culture
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of his own. He invented back in the nineteen thirties
where he was he was canceling people. They'd have social media,
but he was contacting radio stations and newspapers and magazines
to get mostly fellow liberals fired. Will not be able
to do because he was and this was before we
even entered World War two, because there was a lot
of criticisms from the left for his you know, his
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alphabet agencies, many unconstitutional agencies, and the way the Lehn
Lease program was clearly paving the way to get involved
in World War two. So we had lots of it.
So that's you know, the court of historian term is.
I think people recognize the court of storian when they
want is basically it's usually a tenured professor. Uh, they
get published by the biggest publishing houses. Uh. There if
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you watch documentaries on the History Channel or those kinds
of things, the court historians, and they're not gonna ask
somebody like me. I mean, I've been on a few
programs not like that. And uh, they're not going to
ask somebody who's outside that the court historian realm and uh,
because they can. It's it's the same thing we see.
They're basically the gatekeepers of the past. Excuse me, in
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the same way that a mainstream media today is are
the gatekeepers of what's going on now. I mean they
cover up current events. They just they historically truth. Uh,
they they create nothing but disinformation and misinformation that they
accuse everyone else of doing it. That's exactly what the
court historians do about the past. Because if people understand
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the truth about the past, if they read real history
as they can in mind hidden issue books, they'll understand, Hey,
you know this is there's a reason why we are
where we are today, because you know, there's so many lies,
all these things that happened, and the people, you know,
they were obviously smarter in most ways back then, but
they obviously could still be manipulated because they did. You know,
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they got manipulated into World War One for absolutely no
reason at all, and many other things, and they fell.
They fell for so many false flags, starting with the
Spanish American War of eighteen ninety eight, remember the main
and all the way up through the ones we know
first hand, the weapons of mass destruction and things like that.
They don't talking and it repeats itself. So I think
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it's it's important to read about this. Understand. Hey, it's
the same thing, isn't it, you know, Yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
A different media form. Now, you said we were manipulated
going in to go into World War two? Are you
talking about Pearl Harbor or is there something else you
were referring to?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, I said, well, well one, but yeah, well I
was sorry, I'm sorry, but we were. And I wrote
about that in Crimes of cut Reps extensively. And there's
no question that Roosevelt did everything he could and he
might as well be flying one of the planes himself
for the Japanese planes, I mean, did every thing he
could to get them to attack Pearl Harbor because he
was desperate did in the war and he knew that
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he couldn't bait the Germans into attacking us, so he
managed to do that. And there's the evidence is overwhelming
that he you know, and people can read it in
my book. They can read great books. There was a guy,
John Colwan, who was perfect example of what happens to
a court historian when they got outside and row he
was he was a poetry prize winner, but he wrote
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a book called Infamy in the early eighties where he
did meticulously researched and showed conclusively that FDR knew about
the proble fans and that was the end of his career.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I'm not mistaken. The two top military officers on
Pearl Harbor demanded that they go through the court martial process,
and and in that they were completely vindicated because it
was found that the government knew something like what two
weeks before that this was going to happen. And maybe
it was a different amount of time, but I know
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that most people do not realize that the top two
military officers on Pearl Harbor had accusations made against them.
They're like, no way, we're not taking the fall for this.
Demanded a court martial, and I think they said one
of the one of the people on the panel was
so frustrated at hearing that FDR knew about the pending
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attack that he threw his pen across the room.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He was so mad.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And you know, you never heard anyone say, oh, the
two top military officers were vindicated because it was determined
that FDR and new So you you know, there's a
lot of stuff out there, and that's pretty clear. And
all you could have to do in that case is
go back and read the court transcript.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Ran and everybody you're talking about husband Kimmel and get
the kid short, yes, yes, yes, and Kimmell in short.
And they were escaped, they were hung out to dry.
They took the public blame, and even though they were
vindicated one way, to the public's especially that era, they
were considered kind of traders or or whatever. And uh,
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they lived after their life. I talked to I think
it was Kimmel's grandson when I was writing Crimes and
cover Ups, and he he's still trying to clear his
guysfather's name. And in fact, there was a move in Congress.
I talked about this in Crimes of cover Ups, I
think in the nineties where it passed a long way
emotion just to uh to part you know, basically exonerate
them and say they did and Bill Clinton refused to
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Bill Clinton recused to sign it. So that's how you
know these these things. I talked about this in my books,
how these these old mysteries, uh, you know, something like
you know as a innoculous to today's world as uh,
John's Wilkes Booth is. You know, he's there's a you know,
a controversy was the body buried in Greenount Cemetery in
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Baltimore John Wilkes Booth, Well, there's and I I you know,
I talked to Wilkes's great great great great grand niece.
He didn't have any official biological children and several times
and she ended up canceling me her code or something.
I don't know. I guess you had Trump d Angels Center.
That was something. But before that, she was It happened
to me a lot, but she was. You know, her
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family has been trying for a long time to get
that body examined. Usually in these cases, the families are
the ones that determine that. But the National Park Service
box and so even something like that where that Really
that wouldn't change anything about today's politics, but it would
leave the court historians who smeared the conspiracy theorist about
the Lincoln assassination and about loose escaping and living on
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for decades as some belief. They don't admit they're wrong,
and they don't want to admit they're wrong about anything
and you see that today usually was journalists. They refused
to apologize about anything they did it wrong, whether it's
something about Trump or anything else. And they might issue
an attraction on Paige retraction on page A twenty two
or something, but that I did. They don't like to
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admit they're wrong. And it's the same thing the journalists
of today. They're the gatekeepers of the present, the court historians.
They come and go, but they're all trained the same way,
and their job is to date, keep the past, and
make sure those lies are keep being promoted.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh yeah, and I can feel your pain to a
certain extent because I was picked by Sheriff Oarpayo to
narrate all of the videos that he put out on
Obama's birth certificate. And I can tell you that we
had traditional school forensic document examiners who said it was fake.
We had new school computer analysts who said it was fake.
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I even had a discovery that I made about the
birth certificate and we're certain items of it on it
had been pulled from a specific birth certificate, and we
submitted that to all the experts and they all said, yeah,
he's right, you can tell where this was pulled right
off of this birth certificate and put on this one,
and it did not matter. I mean I heard people
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that I normally respected shooting this down when we had
the when we had the third press conference, that's when
we brought in all the stuff from the forensic document
examiner and the computer analysts, and you know, I would
hear people. Ben Shapiro was on Sean Hannity and Sean said, well,
what do you think about what's going on in Arizona
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with our probably with the birth certificate? And Ben Shapiro said, well,
I don't think there's anything new there that we haven't
seen before. It's all been debunked. I mean, first of all,
everything in the third press conference was brand new because
that's when we decided to release the information from the experts,
court certified experts, I might add. And Ben Shapiro didn't
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have the slightest damned idea what he was talking about,
but he knew one thing. In fact, Ben came on
my show. I guess it was a little before that,
and you know, the only thing he said was on
it's all been debunked. But you know, you always ask
these people the same thing and hopefully, hopefully, I know
you've done some of this too, But you just asked
them what it was debunked? Really, who debunked, when was
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it debunked, and how was it?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's there. Yeah, well they get they get the fact checkers,
and they get Snopes and uh, you know the fact
I asked the other van. You know, So, whoever these
fact checkers are, have they ever determined that any rumor
that corruption on the part of you know, or something
conspiracies or crimes on the part of powerful people is
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not you know, disinformation of misinformation. Apparently they have a
great opinion of our leaders because they don't think you know,
they don't think they're human, I guess because they.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, let me say, let me say one quick thing
that I want to dive back in the book you
just mentioned Snopes. Snopes had written an article stating that
they had seen Barack Obama's birth certificate and that he
was born at Queen's Medical in Hawaii. So then the
purported birth certificate comes out, and where's he born? Capiolani Hospital.
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So if Snopes had seen the damn thing, why did
they get the name of the hospital wrong? And then
of course Snopes admitted no, wrong, They just went back
and deleted it. But fortunately a guy named Jerome Corsi
had made a copy of it. And there's also a
thing called The Way Back. But anyway back to the book,
you talk about Lincoln's bloodthirsty generals, and you know, I
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know they had a scor earth policy when they went
about the South. But you also mentioned uh as several
other countries like Mexico, Haiti, the Philippines talk to us
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, that was the most amazing car I got. Really
had to credit my researchers, Peter Stash and Chris Grays.
They did a lot of great research and Peter on
Earth so much stuff. During the Wilson administration especially, Yeah,
we found that Grant had actually invaded it. He was
Kreners as president. I mean, they were going on this
foreign adventures and when one that I know, and certainly
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under Wilson I think in dated Mexico eight times or something,
I talked about the atrocities and the Philippines and Theneticant Republic. Again,
this is in the teens in the twenties, and a
young Sdr was right in there, you know, waving it
on because he never saw a war, he didn't lobby,
he was kind of an early version of Wendsey Graham
because he served it work. He was ultimate chickenhawk. But yeah,
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there were so but I think I credit the credit
if he used that word. I people have read my
work know that I'm not. I'm not fond of the
ever think he was our worst president, not our best.
And I think he's the greatest tyrant we ever had.
And he said so many precedents, and one of them
was this total war scorch dress policy, which really obliterated
the traditional policy of the war. And you can read
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America Lenning Holl in this book coming up. I published
a letter from Jefferson Davis. It's a it's a directive
to the troops, to his generals and the troops about
how their their civilians are off lindits. You're not to
engage in theft and and and looting and all this
stuff that that Sherman's troops did gleefully. I mean, I
published a leven in crimeject cover ups from month and
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this is the best evidence. This is a kind of
evidence of the courty. Historians can't answer to ignore it.
It was a Union lieutenant Thomas Myers, who was running
back to his family during the war, and he's he's
kind of bragging, but he's also ticked off because he
and so it's it's the best kind of evidence because
he doesn't have an act to grind. He isn't you know,
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he's he's a loyal Union guy. But he's he's bragging
about how much booty they've gotten, how much how many
you know, diamonds and all these valuable things they've looted
from the women of the South as they go through
the you know, to march to the sea. And but
then he starts complaining about Sherman and saying before Sherman
has to get a cut at everything. So he's got
enough gold started, enough gold and silver to start his
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own bank. That's the way they ring. And you see this,
you see this kind of this kind of mindset that
goes on into every other war. You sow had a
little bit World War One, but you certainly thought in
World War Two, and I again in Crimes and Cover,
I talked about how they were they would you know,
keep Japanese skulls and send them back is you know,
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keepsakes the family members, you know, horrible things, and so
you know, you know, people said, well you be a
Nazi in this game concerned. No. I mean, there's there's
enough books out there saying all the terrible things that
the bad guys did. I'm just show trying to represent
what the good guys did and does this really proves
their good? And that's my whole thing is that whatever
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those other guys did, there's no excuse for what we'd
be bombing of Dressden. You were killed. You know, we
bombed dress and which is in World War two, was
in the city with no military value at all. They
killed thirty nine thousand toddlers alone in that body. You
talk about work, and I talked to a lot about
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Nuremberg and crimes and cover ups. So what we go
in more depth in this kind of stuff in the
American memory hold But all of the American leaders, including
General Curtis Lmain was probably one of the foremost conspirators
in the JFK jfk uh. You know a lot of
these guys are were a candidate after and said, hey,
you know, if we had lost the war, they could
have they could have put us on trial for the
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exact same stuff. And you know history is written by
the victives. That's that's the plan through all my history,
writing about history, history is always written by the victors.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So true, and I you know, it's interesting though, I
think the pendulum has kind of swung the other way
because I have had some people on my show that
have been accused of military crimes and could get absolutely
no support anywhere as they told what had happened. But
we are up against a break. Let's take a quick
break to do a little business with America, and then
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we will be right back. And we are back with
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mister Donald Jeffries, the author of American Memory Hole. How
the court historians promote disinformation. Now, this this book has
some fresh information. So at any rate, you have a
lot of information about a lot of subjects that Americans
are familiar with, where we haven't been told the exact story,
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and where you've uncovered fresh new information. So let's talk
about some of those things. Let's begin with nine to eleven.
What's what's new there?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, I mean I wrote about a nine to eleven
a lot in his history that this. You know, we
go deeper into this where we talk about we hear
these nine to eleven information just like a Widefression action
JFK was nothing. But you know, a massive cover up,
and they literally told the truth about nothing, not a
single day. I just I guess they got it right.
And JFK was killed and that something happened on nine
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to eleven, but that's about it. Everything else was wrong.
So I put in there the accounts of as many
as I could. You know, the people that have done
specifically researching area know that over one hundred and fifty
firefighters alone in New York testified very clearly about bombs
being in the buildings. I mean, there's no ye, there's
no there's nothing you know, you can't, there's not vy
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or anything like that. They specifically talked about it. You know,
over one hundred fifty firefighters don't make that kind of mistake.
And of course instead they demonized people who would talk
about the firefighters. And we're not doubting the firefighter's courage.
And in this case, they should have. They should have
been a call before, not over information if they wanted
to do in this kate what happened, but they didn't.
They wanted to, They wanted to promote this absurd fairy tale.
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And we know again I've published my other book and everything,
we know how impossible it was for those buildings to
collapse from jet fuel. That's absolutely ridiculous, and we know
from the testimony. I have more of it in this
book where you have people that that we're seeing on
fire in the lobby and this is Ryan pretty much,
you know, very soon after the planes hit, and that's
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it's just impossible. And you were talking about eighty some
stories of how would did they entire and a lob
that doesn't make any sense. But their excuse is, well,
all we know this magical jet fuel and it came
down the elevators. You know, it's it's ridiculous. It's like
the magic bone and the jerk assassination. So we have
a lot of that. I tried to get a hold of,
you know, people that were connected a nine to eleven.
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I was more successful when I hid an issue. But
one thing I found is that over the course of time,
again the people, even people that had spoken out, like
there were several I tried to get ahold of that
were very vocal. When me to watch the lawsuit that's
Pentagon early on, they're not talking now the ones that
are alive, and you can't get a hold in the
funds of disconnected and stuff. So the fear has been
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put in them. And there's a good reason to see why.
I mean, Donald Trump himself, you know, is on tape
on nine to eleven talking about there must have been
bombs in the buildings. Now he backed off from it,
like he backs off from a lot of stuff. But
that was his you know, that was his first impression,
because that's what everybody was saying. And I obviously that
this book has we've all heard of Building seven, which
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alone demolishes the story because it wasn't hit by any plane,
it wasn't hit by a magical jet fuel, and yet
it collapsed. And you had Larry Silverstein in the Owner
where you have one tape, you know, telling people to
pull it, which is parlance, the business parlance for demolish it.
But in my book to this American Memory Hole, where
we talk about Building six, people don't talk about Building six.
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It's the first book that we're going to hear a
lot about that. That's where the gold was. It disappeared,
and there's lots of intriguity that lots of stuff involved
in it. It's very deep what happened, but it's hard
to sometimes separate the wheat from the chaff. But people
that read this will and also we talked a lot
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about all the celebrities, and again this is this is
kind of a human interest story, but I like to
throw these things there because it gets people's attention and support.
There were so many celebrities who were supposed to fly
in one of those planes that day, and they just
backed out of the last second. It's just way beyond
the laws of probability. There's this doesn't happen that much.
And then you have the situation where the planes were
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all at about one third capacity, which is very unusual
for that time, and so we go into that a
little bit. We go this one. Mark and Rember how
we talked a lot more about Flight ninety three in depth,
which I didn't do as much as hit industry. And
that's the plane that was probably shot down over Shacksville, Pennsylvania.
We're not really sure of it. And people readers can
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read from the zample. I don't have any theory. I
quote the people witness is there, I quote the reports.
Everything is sourced and you can read for yourself home.
Almost all the everybody that first came upon it said
where's the plane, where's the evidence of a plane crash
that was the initial of everybody that was there. So
explain that, I mean, make it make sense, is what
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I always say. So the book is full of that
kind of stuff. And I think, you know, people that
read my books enjoy them because of that, because I
don't I don't lecture Tom. I mean, they can probably
figure my skepticism is pretty obvious that I don't know.
I guess what I said. It was the time of
the only thing I talked about, I'll talk about the herey.
I can say, you're being lied to about everything. So
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when you can find one of these historical narratives or
recent narrative where it's the trains, let me know what
it is, because I haven't found one yet.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Sometimes it's just a matter of applying common sense, because
we've all seen, even as kids in classrooms, they would
show us films of buildings being demolished, and you saw
that sort of signature pattern crumbling that happens every time
they put you know, explosives on every level and triggered
them in a sequence, and you see how the building
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just kind of shuffles down. And that's exactly what it
looked like on nine to eleven. I mean, I've never
seen a building that died that was destroyed with airline fuel,
so I don't know what that's supposed to look like.
But I do know that what I saw looked like
a building being demolished by professionals.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's that's what, yeah, And that's what that's what they
basically everybody's for. It's my first impression, regular Hollywood booby
or something, and that's this is again something that they
they don't want the public to believe the evidence of
their own eyes and airs. And that's with everything I mean,
they come up. They come up with these condoluted explanations,
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or there's a single bullet theory with JFK or or
you know, so many things. At nine to eleven, the
magical passport of Muhammadada, which is the buildings, everything in
their steel was incinerated into dust. But they're going to
have you believe that his passport survived to float down
magically on top of the rebel for the authorities to fly.
It's that kind of stupid stuff that that you know,
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people don't believe in. All you need to know about
is that this was such a historical day that before
September eleventh, two thousand and one, no high rise steel
building had ever collapsed from fire in this through the world,
and after nine to eleven, none to have and I
give examples. I think I give examples in this play. Yeah,
I know a case in the industry about recent fires
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that were similar types of buildings, fire rise, you know,
steel framed buildings, and there was no there was nobody
even thought there was a chance of the collapsing. Never
has happened before, never happened again. But it happened three
times that day, including Building seven, which wasn't struck by anything.
And it's you know, it's just you gotta these people
that they're they lied to you. But everything and this
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was and what happened after ilan that's what's important to realize, Okay,
what was the reason for it? Afterwards? We got homeland
security and somehow we lived all those you know, century
and a half whatever without a Homeland Security department, but
they needed it after that, and of course that really
added to the Orwellian aspect of the federal government. And
of course the Patriot Act, which gets renewed every year,
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and we still don't really know how much that in forensire,
but we really I I call America. We live in
now America two point zero, and I think America at
one point oh died on nine to eleven. That's what
America two point I was born. And it just it
keeps getting worse. So you see that the crazy woke stuff,
that's all an outgrowth of that, because we're not remotely
a free country. I think we were. We were just
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kidding ourselves. And it's you know, when you can have
people that are prosecuted like we just see even you know,
prominent people like Trump and Alex Jones for the most
ridiculous things imaginable, and they have no I mean, rich
people very seldom gets convicted at court, and a billionaire,
I don't Trump may be the first billionaire I think.
Is everybody convicted of anything, So to be convicted over
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and over again the most ridiculous crimes, which you know,
you know, a warehouse worker wouldn't be prosecuted for. But
that's that's all made possible. It's all possible because of
the Patriot Act and the shift in thinking when George W.
Vocenary body got that, you know, everything's not with us,
you're with the terrorists, and that's where they're they're shifted
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from terrorists to extreme this their insurrections or whatever, it's
the same one.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Well, one of the things I want to say is
that when we think of the lawfair, we only think
of Donald Trump. But I had someone on the other
day who had a high position. He was a political appointee,
and the entrenched bureaucrats decided to go after him, and
they made up an excuse to revoke his security clearance.
And then what he learned is he was fighting his
own case. Is that eliminating peoples or removing or revoking
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people's security clearance went way off the charts, kind of
like the unmasking went way off the charts. During the
Trump administration, Trump appointees were being accused of leaking classified
documents and so forth, left and right, and the number
compared to past history was off the charts, just like
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the unmasking was off the charts. So when we think
of the lawfair, we only think of Donald Trump. But
the fact is there are a lot of innocent people
who had their lives ruined, their careers ruined during this time.
It's kind of like a catch us if you can.
I always like to point out out the egen Carroll case.
What a ridiculous case that was, he said, He said,
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she said, point in fact, I pointed this out, I
think yesterday on the air.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The The fact is this Egen Carroll person ripped that
story out of an episode of Law and Order, including
the name of the department store, the place in the
department store. It was a complete he said. She said.
The dress she said she was wearing, they proved she
bought many years after the when she said the incident
(26:30):
took place. Of course, she doesn't give the exact date,
but she gives a time frame.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Where she doesn't the same year. She can't even name
the year.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, no, she cannot. And if you saw the interview
that she did with Anderson Cooper, you know she was
flirting with the guy. Was she was supposedly telling this
gut wrenching story of how she was raped by Donald
Trump in a department store. Now, I've heard women recount
rape rape stories, and it's a gut wrenching story. They're crying,
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you know, they're tearing up, they're sniffling, and you know
this woman was flirting with Anderson Cooper. Then I saw
something online that I at first refused to believe. And
they said that Egene Carroll had a cat named Vagina.
She was so obsessed with sex. So I looked into it,
and the cat's full name, because I want to give
the cat its due is Vagina T Vagina T fireball,
(27:21):
I mean, and it was a And I actually was
able to find the social media post where she introduced
her cat. So you know, you've got this person who's
obsessed with sex flirting with Cooper on here, doesn't seem
to be upset when retelling the story of the rape,
lies about the dress she was wearing, can't say the
year it happened, and there just happens to be an
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episode of law and order that's exactly like the story
that she's telling. And yet so many people out there
and Trump wasn't convicted of rape. I think it was
sexual harrassman or something. And still you hear the Democrats say, oh,
Donald Trump, he was convicted of rape. No he wasn't.
First of all, this was a civil case. It's say
you find for the plaintiff or the defendant. This isn't
(28:02):
a you're guilty thing. And it's just they're out there saying,
stop us if you can, Yes, this is obvious that
we're full of bs. Stop us if you can, and
they tell you these lies. You know, I don't know
where you are right now, but I'm in Texas and
we have an old saying in Texas, don't peel on
my leg and tell me it's raining. And that's that's
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exactly what these people are doing. It's just so obvious
that this is phony law fair against the president and
presidential appointees. But they're saying, stop us. It's kind of
like the presidential election. You know, you cheat in an election.
They know that there's no way that that can be
proven by November. Excuse me, by January. If you cheat November,
there's no way to get that done in court. And
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they know that and they're going to keep doing it.
So anyway, I'll get off my soapbox. But you're right.
I mean, it's just common sense. You can look at
this stuff and tell that they're full of it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So yeah, I mean there's the idea that and again
what I call myself a Trump agnostic, which so I
attached you from both sides, but I end up, you know,
defending him way more often than not, because it's just
the attack on him is relentless, and you can argue
that he's a part of it. This is all a show,
(29:15):
which I have argued, but as they said, hey, it
doesn't matter what you And so many people in my
world and the alternative news have has soured on Trump.
They don't like him anymore. And I said, it doesn't
matter what you think of Trump. It doesn't mean a
lot of They don't like Alex Jones either. They said,
it doesn't matter what you think of these guys. And
they may be part of it. I don't know, but
they set terrible presidents, just like Abraham Lincoln did. So
(29:36):
now with Trump's a conviction of the eg and Carrol case,
they can find a woman that thirty years ago claims
you did something some on determined Gate and that's all
you need to Well, we have the Trump president. Because
Trump was also convicted of exaggerating his assets. Now, as
a longtime breacher, I don't know anybody who doesn't try
(29:57):
to get, you know, exaggerates by either house. That's ridiculous.
And in that case they convicted Trump even though there
was no increased party. The people he supposedly injured were
testified for him, and said Nellie pat On they still
convicted him. That's a terrible precedent. And then, of course
the most ridiculous one is the thirty more felonies. And
I've been telling people, and that one's going to come
(30:18):
up with, is that police find an example anywhere in
the history of the world where anybody was convicted of
a felony, a felony a little in thirty four for
paying off a mistress. They're not going to find it anywhere.
It doesn't happen. I mean, Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones
eight million dollars. No one suggested he should be prosecuted.
That's in our lifetimes. And again, this is the problem
(30:41):
I have with the Republicans. I call him the stupid
Party and the Democrats the evil party. But the Republicans don't.
They should run with these issues. They should have when
Trump was being tried, every Republican should have brought up
Bill Clinton's eight million dollars payment to apologize over and
over again, drum it into the hand, because you have
to do that to get some of these dumbed down
Americans to get it. But they, unfortunately, they don't do that,
(31:04):
and they're always on the defense of it.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
This isn't about the payment, per se, It's about how
it was logged into his accounting books.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They're not. Yeah, it's the whole thing is ridiculous. I mean,
and there's a I published it on my social media
a long time ago. Stormy Daniels is she's no more
credible than EG and Carol was her first statement. That's
the swine set that Michael Cohen put out there before
when he was so friendly with Trump, is a statement
that says Donald Trump and I did not have any
kind of relationship, and he treated me and everyone else
(31:34):
graciously at all times. I don't understand how you go
from that. And she's also said they had sex, they
didn't have sex. They made fun of them, you know,
which everybody does. Is it's sexually, which is part of
the game they play, and it's just, you know, it's
it's terrible to see because what's happening with Trump is
they're just I don't know. And I say over and overhead,
(31:57):
what what's important to consider is what happens after Trump
because regardless of what, I don't know what they're going
to do with this election, you know, it's and we
certainly can't count the vote counting. I mean trust the
vote counting after twenty and twenty and twenty twenty two.
And they're prosecuting Trump for complaining the last time. So
if you planning, they might be prosecuting every They prosecuted
(32:17):
Juliana and so there's other people for claiming it was
obvious fraud. But again, what can you do sixty to
sixty in the sixty three courts or something wouldn't even
look at the evidence. And that's where we are. I
don't think we can note ourselves out of it, but
it will be interesting to see where. Because you've got
seventy eighty million bag of people who are awake to
(32:38):
varying degrees, they know this corruption is everywhere, they're not
going to trust politics as usual, and I think they're
unwise to completely trust Donald Trump at this point. But
they don't see anybody else. And if Trump isn't, you know,
this doesn't get to be president again, where do they go?
Who's the next person? They're not going to go back
to any other Republicans, I don't think, And so I
(33:00):
maybe they'll form them in a party, but I hope
they open up their horizons and make it a real
reform to my party. But that's the important thing to
consider because Trump is almost eighty years old and this
is obviously probably going to be his last hurrah. So
what happens after him Donald Trump Junior? I don't know,
But those seventy eighty people, you you can't put that
genie back in the bottle. They're out, they know what's
(33:22):
going on, to burying degrees, and they see the corruption.
They're not going to settle for politics as usual. So
it would be interesting to see. I just I just
don't think they have it in them to go and
take to the streets because they remember what happened in
January sixth. I've had too many of those people on
my show. I had Ashley I have Its Mother ons
a couple of times, and I know what they're you
(33:42):
know what they've been through, and it's shameful and disgraceful
that so few people are are defending them and saying,
you know, two people denied all due processes is the
most ridiculous miscarriage of justice. But nobody's doing that, even
very few Republicans are doing And so I think everybody
out there that might take to this they keep that
in mind. Well, look what they did to us in
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January sixth, and you know what they do, drop drones bars.
At this point, I wouldn't trust it, the crazy work
Democrats over anything. They might drop a nuclear bomb on them.
I don't know what they would do.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I have no idea what they're going to do. All
I know is is that they've been able to cheat
with impunity. And when you anytime you have a situation
where someone commits a crime with impunity, they're very apt
to do it again. You know you talked about Michael
Cohen and how he changed and flipped. I had actually
had him on the show, I believe a couple of times.
I know at least once, and I had spoken to
(34:38):
him all about three or four times on the phone
because back then when Trump was running back in twenty sixteen,
everybody was pounding him with the birth certificate stuff, you're
a birth and all that type of thing. So, as
the person who had been involved with our PIOS people
for a few years, I was giving some notes to
(34:58):
Michael Cohen about how Trump might respond to that if
he's pounded with that. In that first debate where he
ended up getting into it with Megan Kelly and so forth,
but any at any rate, Cohen was, if anything, a
family man. In fact, during one of our conversations, he
received a phone call from his son, who was away
(35:18):
at summer camp that they were allowed to make a
phone call back home every so often, and on that day,
it was his son's birthday, and he was like, oh,
my son's calling from camp. It's his birthday. Do you
mind if I put you on hold for a while, So,
you know, he put me on hold for about five
to ten minutes, and then he got back and he
was just full of nice things to say about his son.
So a lot of these loan applications that Cohen was
(35:41):
accused of falsifying, his wife was a co signer on
one of those loans, and the deal was it was
sort of like, you know, hey, Cohen, if you don't cooperate,
we're not only going after you, we're going after your wife,
your parents are Your kids are going to have both
their parents in jail. And that's what he says was
his reason for flipping at that point. And he says,
(36:02):
don't judge me too harshly. You don't know what you
would do if somebody was threatening your family. So anyway,
that's that's his story as to why he flipped. But
I mean, this guy, this guy, when he flipped though,
he really flipped because he was he was he was
even you know, like making fun of Donald Trump's private part.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean, yeah, well everybody does. And I've written a
lot about that.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
It's like it's it's a bizarre sucation they had with that.
And I said, you know, if he whipped it out
somehow on stage, wasn't they And it turned out that
wasn't true.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I don't know what they would do. They must jump
out of the window or something, because they're so committed
to this nun this bizarre perverted thing where that he
you know, he has to I don't. There's so many
things in that trumps.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
That's why it's definitely one of them. I've actually used
all the time. Your publicists promised me, is there anything
else you want to tell us about the book? I
know we don't want to give it all away because
we want people to buy it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
On my credit. That's because again, this is the passage
prologue and the situation. Because of that, the people could
read the early section judicial review, which Thomas Jefferson, my hero,
was very much against I think I have the first
person since then to ran and rave about it. But
if you want to look at a lot of these
problems we have in the court, they fall back to
judicial review, which the third branch. The judicial lands municial
(37:23):
branch authority and shattered the checks and balances right at
the beginning, and Jefferson was one of the only ones
speaking out against them. Then of course, when Abraham Lincoln
created the first Imperial presidency, the executive shattered. So right
now you have an executive and judiciary. They're much more
powerful than the legislative, which is branch. We should have
the most control lever. We can theoretically clean house every
(37:44):
two years. But uh, and that that's what the legislative
has to start flexing their muscles, and it would start
if the Republicans are going to be an opposition party,
they have to they have to do what they didn't
do after January sixth, sho'd all been unified that So
this is ridiculous. Wasn't that an insurrection? These people were,
you're doing something, it's constancy protected. But they didn't. They
most of all the leaderships outs on. So that's people
(38:07):
can they'll see parallels in history with different names and stuff.
Sound okay, maybe I see that now. That's so again.
If you read history, you realize that there's nothing doing
to the sun. It's just but it is getting worse now.
And if we don't do something, I don't know what
kind of government we're going to be living under here
if A Harris gets to be president.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The book comes out when.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
August twenty seventh officially, but it's been available for pre sales,
so people can order it pre ordered from Amazon, Barnsbow
and everywhere else whatever they are to just look for
the best deal.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Okay, let's say the name one more time. American Memory
Hole How the Court Historians promote Disinformation by Donald Jeffries.
Mister Jeffries, it's been a pleasure having you on the show.
It's one of those things where you don't find people
very often that are willing to step up up and
(39:00):
tell the truth, and you, sir, are willing to do that.
We need more people like you, and I thank you
for doing the work that you do, the work that
you've done, because we live in a society where all
it takes to shut someone down is to point your
finger at them and laugh. You know, it's just kind
of like I told you, I was involved in the
birth thing with Sheriff Arpaio. It's amazing how many politicians
(39:22):
the first time somebody pointed a finger at him and said,
ha ha, you're a birth that was it. They were done,
you know. Could you imagine, could you imagine if the
spines of our founding fathers were that week would still
be part of the British Empire. But anyway, again, mister Jeffries,
thank you for being on the show. Name of the book,
American Memory Hole, how the Court Historians promote disinformation available
(39:45):
for pre order right now. Do yourself a favor and
pre order it so you'll be sure to have a
copy whenever the book is released. Once again, thanks for
being here. I hope you have a great day.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh thanks so much for having me, Benja certainly in
listening to the Tea Party Power Hour with Mark Guillar,
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Listener discretion is therefore advised.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome to the Tea Party Power Hour. My name is
Mark Gallar. My special guest today is mister Donald Jeffries.
He is the author of the novel The Unreals. He's
also written a nonfiction book, Hidden History. He's the author
of Crimes and cover Ups in American Politics Survival of
(00:37):
the Richest. But he's here today to talk to us
about his brand new book, American Memory Hole. How the
Court Historians promote disinformation. Mister Jeffries, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now let's talk about the title before we go any further.
It says how the court historians promote disinformation. On the book,
you talk about the person who coin that term court historians.
But before we go any further with our listeners today,
tell us what that means.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, I think I think it's a great term. Here
at the professor Harriol labar And who had his career ruined.
He was a liberal and good standing and then he
came out against World War One and that was it
for him. And that doesn't take much, No, it doesn't
take much. And you see even that's that's why when
people read my books, like in this book, you'll see
that FDR was the first one. He had canceled culture
(01:29):
of his own. He invented back in the nineteen thirties
where he was he was canceling people. They'd have social media,
but he was contacting radio stations and newspapers and magazines
to get mostly fellow liberals fired. Will not be able
to do because he was and this was before we
even entered World War two, because there was a lot
of criticisms from the left for his you know, his
(01:51):
alphabet agencies, many unconstitutional agencies, and the way the Lehn
Lease program was clearly paving the way to get involved
in World War two. So we had lots of it.
So that's you know, the court of historian term is.
I think people recognize the court of storian when they
want is basically it's usually a tenured professor. Uh, they
get published by the biggest publishing houses. Uh. There if
(02:14):
you watch documentaries on the History Channel or those kinds
of things, the court historians, and they're not gonna ask
somebody like me. I mean, I've been on a few
programs not like that. And uh, they're not going to
ask somebody who's outside that the court historian realm and uh,
because they can. It's it's the same thing we see.
They're basically the gatekeepers of the past. Excuse me, in
(02:36):
the same way that a mainstream media today is are
the gatekeepers of what's going on now. I mean they
cover up current events. They just they historically truth. Uh,
they they create nothing but disinformation and misinformation that they
accuse everyone else of doing it. That's exactly what the
court historians do about the past. Because if people understand
(02:56):
the truth about the past, if they read real history
as they can in mind hidden issue books, they'll understand, Hey,
you know this is there's a reason why we are
where we are today, because you know, there's so many lies,
all these things that happened, and the people, you know,
they were obviously smarter in most ways back then, but
they obviously could still be manipulated because they did. You know,
(03:18):
they got manipulated into World War One for absolutely no
reason at all, and many other things, and they fell.
They fell for so many false flags, starting with the
Spanish American War of eighteen ninety eight, remember the main
and all the way up through the ones we know
first hand, the weapons of mass destruction and things like that.
They don't talking and it repeats itself. So I think
(03:40):
it's it's important to read about this. Understand. Hey, it's
the same thing, isn't it, you know, Yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
A different media form. Now, you said we were manipulated
going in to go into World War two? Are you
talking about Pearl Harbor or is there something else you
were referring to?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, I said, well, well one, but yeah, well I
was sorry, I'm sorry, but we were. And I wrote
about that in Crimes of cut Reps extensively. And there's
no question that Roosevelt did everything he could and he
might as well be flying one of the planes himself
for the Japanese planes, I mean, did every thing he
could to get them to attack Pearl Harbor because he
was desperate did in the war and he knew that
(04:19):
he couldn't bait the Germans into attacking us, so he
managed to do that. And there's the evidence is overwhelming
that he you know, and people can read it in
my book. They can read great books. There was a guy,
John Colwan, who was perfect example of what happens to
a court historian when they got outside and row he
was he was a poetry prize winner, but he wrote
(04:40):
a book called Infamy in the early eighties where he
did meticulously researched and showed conclusively that FDR knew about
the proble fans and that was the end of his career.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I'm not mistaken. The two top military officers on
Pearl Harbor demanded that they go through the court martial process,
and and in that they were completely vindicated because it
was found that the government knew something like what two
weeks before that this was going to happen. And maybe
it was a different amount of time, but I know
(05:11):
that most people do not realize that the top two
military officers on Pearl Harbor had accusations made against them.
They're like, no way, we're not taking the fall for this.
Demanded a court martial, and I think they said one
of the one of the people on the panel was
so frustrated at hearing that FDR knew about the pending
(05:32):
attack that he threw his pen across the room.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He was so mad.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And you know, you never heard anyone say, oh, the
two top military officers were vindicated because it was determined
that FDR and new So you you know, there's a
lot of stuff out there, and that's pretty clear. And
all you could have to do in that case is
go back and read the court transcript.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Ran and everybody you're talking about husband Kimmel and get
the kid short, yes, yes, yes, and Kimmell in short.
And they were escaped, they were hung out to dry.
They took the public blame, and even though they were
vindicated one way, to the public's especially that era, they
were considered kind of traders or or whatever. And uh,
(06:14):
they lived after their life. I talked to I think
it was Kimmel's grandson when I was writing Crimes and
cover Ups, and he he's still trying to clear his
guysfather's name. And in fact, there was a move in Congress.
I talked about this in Crimes of cover Ups, I
think in the nineties where it passed a long way
emotion just to uh to part you know, basically exonerate
them and say they did and Bill Clinton refused to
(06:35):
Bill Clinton recused to sign it. So that's how you
know these these things. I talked about this in my books,
how these these old mysteries, uh, you know, something like
you know as a innoculous to today's world as uh,
John's Wilkes Booth is. You know, he's there's a you know,
a controversy was the body buried in Greenount Cemetery in
(06:55):
Baltimore John Wilkes Booth, Well, there's and I I you know,
I talked to Wilkes's great great great great grand niece.
He didn't have any official biological children and several times
and she ended up canceling me her code or something.
I don't know. I guess you had Trump d Angels Center.
That was something. But before that, she was It happened
to me a lot, but she was. You know, her
(07:18):
family has been trying for a long time to get
that body examined. Usually in these cases, the families are
the ones that determine that. But the National Park Service
box and so even something like that where that Really
that wouldn't change anything about today's politics, but it would
leave the court historians who smeared the conspiracy theorist about
the Lincoln assassination and about loose escaping and living on
(07:39):
for decades as some belief. They don't admit they're wrong,
and they don't want to admit they're wrong about anything
and you see that today usually was journalists. They refused
to apologize about anything they did it wrong, whether it's
something about Trump or anything else. And they might issue
an attraction on Paige retraction on page A twenty two
or something, but that I did. They don't like to
(08:00):
admit they're wrong. And it's the same thing the journalists
of today. They're the gatekeepers of the present, the court historians.
They come and go, but they're all trained the same way,
and their job is to date, keep the past, and
make sure those lies are keep being promoted.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh yeah, and I can feel your pain to a
certain extent because I was picked by Sheriff Oarpayo to
narrate all of the videos that he put out on
Obama's birth certificate. And I can tell you that we
had traditional school forensic document examiners who said it was fake.
We had new school computer analysts who said it was fake.
(08:35):
I even had a discovery that I made about the
birth certificate and we're certain items of it on it
had been pulled from a specific birth certificate, and we
submitted that to all the experts and they all said, yeah,
he's right, you can tell where this was pulled right
off of this birth certificate and put on this one,
and it did not matter. I mean I heard people
(08:56):
that I normally respected shooting this down when we had
the when we had the third press conference, that's when
we brought in all the stuff from the forensic document
examiner and the computer analysts, and you know, I would
hear people. Ben Shapiro was on Sean Hannity and Sean said, well,
what do you think about what's going on in Arizona
(09:17):
with our probably with the birth certificate? And Ben Shapiro said, well,
I don't think there's anything new there that we haven't
seen before. It's all been debunked. I mean, first of all,
everything in the third press conference was brand new because
that's when we decided to release the information from the experts,
court certified experts, I might add. And Ben Shapiro didn't
(09:39):
have the slightest damned idea what he was talking about,
but he knew one thing. In fact, Ben came on
my show. I guess it was a little before that,
and you know, the only thing he said was on
it's all been debunked. But you know, you always ask
these people the same thing and hopefully, hopefully, I know
you've done some of this too, But you just asked
them what it was debunked? Really, who debunked, when was
(10:00):
it debunked, and how was it?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's there. Yeah, well they get they get the fact checkers,
and they get Snopes and uh, you know the fact
I asked the other van. You know, So, whoever these
fact checkers are, have they ever determined that any rumor
that corruption on the part of you know, or something
conspiracies or crimes on the part of powerful people is
(10:23):
not you know, disinformation of misinformation. Apparently they have a
great opinion of our leaders because they don't think you know,
they don't think they're human, I guess because they.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, let me say, let me say one quick thing
that I want to dive back in the book you
just mentioned Snopes. Snopes had written an article stating that
they had seen Barack Obama's birth certificate and that he
was born at Queen's Medical in Hawaii. So then the
purported birth certificate comes out, and where's he born? Capiolani Hospital.
(10:56):
So if Snopes had seen the damn thing, why did
they get the name of the hospital wrong? And then
of course Snopes admitted no, wrong, They just went back
and deleted it. But fortunately a guy named Jerome Corsi
had made a copy of it. And there's also a
thing called The Way Back. But anyway back to the book,
you talk about Lincoln's bloodthirsty generals, and you know, I
(11:20):
know they had a scor earth policy when they went
about the South. But you also mentioned uh as several
other countries like Mexico, Haiti, the Philippines talk to us
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, that was the most amazing car I got. Really
had to credit my researchers, Peter Stash and Chris Grays.
They did a lot of great research and Peter on
Earth so much stuff. During the Wilson administration especially, Yeah,
we found that Grant had actually invaded it. He was
Kreners as president. I mean, they were going on this
foreign adventures and when one that I know, and certainly
(11:51):
under Wilson I think in dated Mexico eight times or something,
I talked about the atrocities and the Philippines and Theneticant Republic. Again,
this is in the teens in the twenties, and a
young Sdr was right in there, you know, waving it
on because he never saw a war, he didn't lobby,
he was kind of an early version of Wendsey Graham
because he served it work. He was ultimate chickenhawk. But yeah,
(12:15):
there were so but I think I credit the credit
if he used that word. I people have read my
work know that I'm not. I'm not fond of the
ever think he was our worst president, not our best.
And I think he's the greatest tyrant we ever had.
And he said so many precedents, and one of them
was this total war scorch dress policy, which really obliterated
the traditional policy of the war. And you can read
(12:39):
America Lenning Holl in this book coming up. I published
a letter from Jefferson Davis. It's a it's a directive
to the troops, to his generals and the troops about
how their their civilians are off lindits. You're not to
engage in theft and and and looting and all this
stuff that that Sherman's troops did gleefully. I mean, I
published a leven in crimeject cover ups from month and
(13:02):
this is the best evidence. This is a kind of
evidence of the courty. Historians can't answer to ignore it.
It was a Union lieutenant Thomas Myers, who was running
back to his family during the war, and he's he's
kind of bragging, but he's also ticked off because he
and so it's it's the best kind of evidence because
he doesn't have an act to grind. He isn't you know,
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he's he's a loyal Union guy. But he's he's bragging
about how much booty they've gotten, how much how many
you know, diamonds and all these valuable things they've looted
from the women of the South as they go through
the you know, to march to the sea. And but
then he starts complaining about Sherman and saying before Sherman
has to get a cut at everything. So he's got
enough gold started, enough gold and silver to start his
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own bank. That's the way they ring. And you see this,
you see this kind of this kind of mindset that
goes on into every other war. You sow had a
little bit World War One, but you certainly thought in
World War Two, and I again in Crimes and Cover,
I talked about how they were they would you know,
keep Japanese skulls and send them back is you know,
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keepsakes the family members, you know, horrible things, and so
you know, you know, people said, well you be a
Nazi in this game concerned. No. I mean, there's there's
enough books out there saying all the terrible things that
the bad guys did. I'm just show trying to represent
what the good guys did and does this really proves
their good? And that's my whole thing is that whatever
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those other guys did, there's no excuse for what we'd
be bombing of Dressden. You were killed. You know, we
bombed dress and which is in World War two, was
in the city with no military value at all. They
killed thirty nine thousand toddlers alone in that body. You
talk about work, and I talked to a lot about
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Nuremberg and crimes and cover ups. So what we go
in more depth in this kind of stuff in the
American memory hold But all of the American leaders, including
General Curtis Lmain was probably one of the foremost conspirators
in the JFK jfk uh. You know a lot of
these guys are were a candidate after and said, hey,
you know, if we had lost the war, they could
have they could have put us on trial for the
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exact same stuff. And you know history is written by
the victives. That's that's the plan through all my history,
writing about history, history is always written by the victors.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So true, and I you know, it's interesting though, I
think the pendulum has kind of swung the other way
because I have had some people on my show that
have been accused of military crimes and could get absolutely
no support anywhere as they told what had happened. But
we are up against a break. Let's take a quick
break to do a little business with America, and then
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we will be right back. And we are back with
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mister Donald Jeffries, the author of American Memory Hole. How
the court historians promote disinformation. Now, this this book has
some fresh information. So at any rate, you have a
lot of information about a lot of subjects that Americans
are familiar with, where we haven't been told the exact story,
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and where you've uncovered fresh new information. So let's talk
about some of those things. Let's begin with nine to eleven.
What's what's new there?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, I mean I wrote about a nine to eleven
a lot in his history that this. You know, we
go deeper into this where we talk about we hear
these nine to eleven information just like a Widefression action
JFK was nothing. But you know, a massive cover up,
and they literally told the truth about nothing, not a
single day. I just I guess they got it right.
And JFK was killed and that something happened on nine
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to eleven, but that's about it. Everything else was wrong.
So I put in there the accounts of as many
as I could. You know, the people that have done
specifically researching area know that over one hundred and fifty
firefighters alone in New York testified very clearly about bombs
being in the buildings. I mean, there's no ye, there's
no there's nothing you know, you can't, there's not vy
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or anything like that. They specifically talked about it. You know,
over one hundred fifty firefighters don't make that kind of mistake.
And of course instead they demonized people who would talk
about the firefighters. And we're not doubting the firefighter's courage.
And in this case, they should have. They should have
been a call before, not over information if they wanted
to do in this kate what happened, but they didn't.
They wanted to, They wanted to promote this absurd fairy tale.
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And we know again I've published my other book and everything,
we know how impossible it was for those buildings to
collapse from jet fuel. That's absolutely ridiculous, and we know
from the testimony. I have more of it in this
book where you have people that that we're seeing on
fire in the lobby and this is Ryan pretty much,
you know, very soon after the planes hit, and that's
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it's just impossible. And you were talking about eighty some
stories of how would did they entire and a lob
that doesn't make any sense. But their excuse is, well,
all we know this magical jet fuel and it came
down the elevators. You know, it's it's ridiculous. It's like
the magic bone and the jerk assassination. So we have
a lot of that. I tried to get a hold of,
you know, people that were connected a nine to eleven.
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I was more successful when I hid an issue. But
one thing I found is that over the course of time,
again the people, even people that had spoken out, like
there were several I tried to get ahold of that
were very vocal. When me to watch the lawsuit that's
Pentagon early on, they're not talking now the ones that
are alive, and you can't get a hold in the
funds of disconnected and stuff. So the fear has been
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put in them. And there's a good reason to see why.
I mean, Donald Trump himself, you know, is on tape
on nine to eleven talking about there must have been
bombs in the buildings. Now he backed off from it,
like he backs off from a lot of stuff. But
that was his you know, that was his first impression,
because that's what everybody was saying. And I obviously that
this book has we've all heard of Building seven, which
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alone demolishes the story because it wasn't hit by any plane,
it wasn't hit by a magical jet fuel, and yet
it collapsed. And you had Larry Silverstein in the Owner
where you have one tape, you know, telling people to
pull it, which is parlance, the business parlance for demolish it.
But in my book to this American Memory Hole, where
we talk about Building six, people don't talk about Building six.
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It's the first book that we're going to hear a
lot about that. That's where the gold was. It disappeared,
and there's lots of intriguity that lots of stuff involved
in it. It's very deep what happened, but it's hard
to sometimes separate the wheat from the chaff. But people
that read this will and also we talked a lot
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about all the celebrities, and again this is this is
kind of a human interest story, but I like to
throw these things there because it gets people's attention and support.
There were so many celebrities who were supposed to fly
in one of those planes that day, and they just
backed out of the last second. It's just way beyond
the laws of probability. There's this doesn't happen that much.
And then you have the situation where the planes were
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all at about one third capacity, which is very unusual
for that time, and so we go into that a
little bit. We go this one. Mark and Rember how
we talked a lot more about Flight ninety three in depth,
which I didn't do as much as hit industry. And
that's the plane that was probably shot down over Shacksville, Pennsylvania.
We're not really sure of it. And people readers can
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read from the zample. I don't have any theory. I
quote the people witness is there, I quote the reports.
Everything is sourced and you can read for yourself home.
Almost all the everybody that first came upon it said
where's the plane, where's the evidence of a plane crash
that was the initial of everybody that was there. So
explain that, I mean, make it make sense, is what
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I always say. So the book is full of that
kind of stuff. And I think, you know, people that
read my books enjoy them because of that, because I
don't I don't lecture Tom. I mean, they can probably
figure my skepticism is pretty obvious that I don't know.
I guess what I said. It was the time of
the only thing I talked about, I'll talk about the herey.
I can say, you're being lied to about everything. So
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when you can find one of these historical narratives or
recent narrative where it's the trains, let me know what
it is, because I haven't found one yet.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Sometimes it's just a matter of applying common sense, because
we've all seen, even as kids in classrooms, they would
show us films of buildings being demolished, and you saw
that sort of signature pattern crumbling that happens every time
they put you know, explosives on every level and triggered
them in a sequence, and you see how the building
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just kind of shuffles down. And that's exactly what it
looked like on nine to eleven. I mean, I've never
seen a building that died that was destroyed with airline fuel,
so I don't know what that's supposed to look like.
But I do know that what I saw looked like
a building being demolished by professionals.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's that's what, yeah, And that's what that's what they
basically everybody's for. It's my first impression, regular Hollywood booby
or something, and that's this is again something that they
they don't want the public to believe the evidence of
their own eyes and airs. And that's with everything I mean,
they come up. They come up with these condoluted explanations,
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or there's a single bullet theory with JFK or or
you know, so many things. At nine to eleven, the
magical passport of Muhammadada, which is the buildings, everything in
their steel was incinerated into dust. But they're going to
have you believe that his passport survived to float down
magically on top of the rebel for the authorities to fly.
It's that kind of stupid stuff that that you know,
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people don't believe in. All you need to know about
is that this was such a historical day that before
September eleventh, two thousand and one, no high rise steel
building had ever collapsed from fire in this through the world,
and after nine to eleven, none to have and I
give examples. I think I give examples in this play. Yeah,
I know a case in the industry about recent fires
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that were similar types of buildings, fire rise, you know,
steel framed buildings, and there was no there was nobody
even thought there was a chance of the collapsing. Never
has happened before, never happened again. But it happened three
times that day, including Building seven, which wasn't struck by anything.
And it's you know, it's just you gotta these people
that they're they lied to you. But everything and this
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was and what happened after ilan that's what's important to realize, Okay,
what was the reason for it? Afterwards? We got homeland
security and somehow we lived all those you know, century
and a half whatever without a Homeland Security department, but
they needed it after that, and of course that really
added to the Orwellian aspect of the federal government. And
of course the Patriot Act, which gets renewed every year,
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and we still don't really know how much that in forensire,
but we really I I call America. We live in
now America two point zero, and I think America at
one point oh died on nine to eleven. That's what
America two point I was born. And it just it
keeps getting worse. So you see that the crazy woke stuff,
that's all an outgrowth of that, because we're not remotely
a free country. I think we were. We were just
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kidding ourselves. And it's you know, when you can have
people that are prosecuted like we just see even you know,
prominent people like Trump and Alex Jones for the most
ridiculous things imaginable, and they have no I mean, rich
people very seldom gets convicted at court, and a billionaire,
I don't Trump may be the first billionaire I think.
Is everybody convicted of anything, So to be convicted over
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and over again the most ridiculous crimes, which you know,
you know, a warehouse worker wouldn't be prosecuted for. But
that's that's all made possible. It's all possible because of
the Patriot Act and the shift in thinking when George W.
Vocenary body got that, you know, everything's not with us,
you're with the terrorists, and that's where they're they're shifted
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from terrorists to extreme this their insurrections or whatever, it's
the same one.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Well, one of the things I want to say is
that when we think of the lawfair, we only think
of Donald Trump. But I had someone on the other
day who had a high position. He was a political appointee,
and the entrenched bureaucrats decided to go after him, and
they made up an excuse to revoke his security clearance.
And then what he learned is he was fighting his
own case. Is that eliminating peoples or removing or revoking
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people's security clearance went way off the charts, kind of
like the unmasking went way off the charts. During the
Trump administration, Trump appointees were being accused of leaking classified
documents and so forth, left and right, and the number
compared to past history was off the charts, just like
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the unmasking was off the charts. So when we think
of the lawfair, we only think of Donald Trump. But
the fact is there are a lot of innocent people
who had their lives ruined, their careers ruined during this time.
It's kind of like a catch us if you can.
I always like to point out out the egen Carroll case.
What a ridiculous case that was, he said, He said,
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she said, point in fact, I pointed this out, I
think yesterday on the air.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The The fact is this Egen Carroll person ripped that
story out of an episode of Law and Order, including
the name of the department store, the place in the
department store. It was a complete he said. She said.
The dress she said she was wearing, they proved she
bought many years after the when she said the incident
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took place. Of course, she doesn't give the exact date,
but she gives a time frame.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Where she doesn't the same year. She can't even name
the year.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, no, she cannot. And if you saw the interview
that she did with Anderson Cooper, you know she was
flirting with the guy. Was she was supposedly telling this
gut wrenching story of how she was raped by Donald
Trump in a department store. Now, I've heard women recount
rape rape stories, and it's a gut wrenching story. They're crying,
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you know, they're tearing up, they're sniffling, and you know
this woman was flirting with Anderson Cooper. Then I saw
something online that I at first refused to believe. And
they said that Egene Carroll had a cat named Vagina.
She was so obsessed with sex. So I looked into it,
and the cat's full name, because I want to give
the cat its due is Vagina T Vagina T fireball,
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I mean, and it was a And I actually was
able to find the social media post where she introduced
her cat. So you know, you've got this person who's
obsessed with sex flirting with Cooper on here, doesn't seem
to be upset when retelling the story of the rape,
lies about the dress she was wearing, can't say the
year it happened, and there just happens to be an
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episode of law and order that's exactly like the story
that she's telling. And yet so many people out there
and Trump wasn't convicted of rape. I think it was
sexual harrassman or something. And still you hear the Democrats say, oh,
Donald Trump, he was convicted of rape. No he wasn't.
First of all, this was a civil case. It's say
you find for the plaintiff or the defendant. This isn't
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a you're guilty thing. And it's just they're out there saying,
stop us if you can, Yes, this is obvious that
we're full of bs. Stop us if you can, and
they tell you these lies. You know, I don't know
where you are right now, but I'm in Texas and
we have an old saying in Texas, don't peel on
my leg and tell me it's raining. And that's that's
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exactly what these people are doing. It's just so obvious
that this is phony law fair against the president and
presidential appointees. But they're saying, stop us. It's kind of
like the presidential election. You know, you cheat in an election.
They know that there's no way that that can be
proven by November. Excuse me, by January. If you cheat November,
there's no way to get that done in court. And
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they know that and they're going to keep doing it.
So anyway, I'll get off my soapbox. But you're right.
I mean, it's just common sense. You can look at
this stuff and tell that they're full of it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So yeah, I mean there's the idea that and again
what I call myself a Trump agnostic, which so I
attached you from both sides, but I end up, you know,
defending him way more often than not, because it's just
the attack on him is relentless, and you can argue
that he's a part of it. This is all a show,
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which I have argued, but as they said, hey, it
doesn't matter what you And so many people in my
world and the alternative news have has soured on Trump.
They don't like him anymore. And I said, it doesn't
matter what you think of Trump. It doesn't mean a
lot of They don't like Alex Jones either. They said,
it doesn't matter what you think of these guys. And
they may be part of it. I don't know, but
they set terrible presidents, just like Abraham Lincoln did. So
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now with Trump's a conviction of the eg and Carrol case,
they can find a woman that thirty years ago claims
you did something some on determined Gate and that's all
you need to Well, we have the Trump president. Because
Trump was also convicted of exaggerating his assets. Now, as
a longtime breacher, I don't know anybody who doesn't try
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to get, you know, exaggerates by either house. That's ridiculous.
And in that case they convicted Trump even though there
was no increased party. The people he supposedly injured were
testified for him, and said Nellie pat On they still
convicted him. That's a terrible precedent. And then, of course
the most ridiculous one is the thirty more felonies. And
I've been telling people, and that one's going to come
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up with, is that police find an example anywhere in
the history of the world where anybody was convicted of
a felony, a felony a little in thirty four for
paying off a mistress. They're not going to find it anywhere.
It doesn't happen. I mean, Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones
eight million dollars. No one suggested he should be prosecuted.
That's in our lifetimes. And again, this is the problem
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I have with the Republicans. I call him the stupid
Party and the Democrats the evil party. But the Republicans don't.
They should run with these issues. They should have when
Trump was being tried, every Republican should have brought up
Bill Clinton's eight million dollars payment to apologize over and
over again, drum it into the hand, because you have
to do that to get some of these dumbed down
Americans to get it. But they, unfortunately, they don't do that,
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and they're always on the defense of it.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
This isn't about the payment, per se, It's about how
it was logged into his accounting books.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They're not. Yeah, it's the whole thing is ridiculous. I mean,
and there's a I published it on my social media
a long time ago. Stormy Daniels is she's no more
credible than EG and Carol was her first statement. That's
the swine set that Michael Cohen put out there before
when he was so friendly with Trump, is a statement
that says Donald Trump and I did not have any
kind of relationship, and he treated me and everyone else
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graciously at all times. I don't understand how you go
from that. And she's also said they had sex, they
didn't have sex. They made fun of them, you know,
which everybody does. Is it's sexually, which is part of
the game they play, and it's just, you know, it's
it's terrible to see because what's happening with Trump is
they're just I don't know. And I say over and overhead,
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what what's important to consider is what happens after Trump
because regardless of what, I don't know what they're going
to do with this election, you know, it's and we
certainly can't count the vote counting. I mean trust the
vote counting after twenty and twenty and twenty twenty two.
And they're prosecuting Trump for complaining the last time. So
if you planning, they might be prosecuting every They prosecuted
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Juliana and so there's other people for claiming it was
obvious fraud. But again, what can you do sixty to
sixty in the sixty three courts or something wouldn't even
look at the evidence. And that's where we are. I
don't think we can note ourselves out of it, but
it will be interesting to see where. Because you've got
seventy eighty million bag of people who are awake to
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varying degrees, they know this corruption is everywhere, they're not
going to trust politics as usual, and I think they're
unwise to completely trust Donald Trump at this point. But
they don't see anybody else. And if Trump isn't, you know,
this doesn't get to be president again, where do they go?
Who's the next person? They're not going to go back
to any other Republicans, I don't think, And so I
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maybe they'll form them in a party, but I hope
they open up their horizons and make it a real
reform to my party. But that's the important thing to
consider because Trump is almost eighty years old and this
is obviously probably going to be his last hurrah. So
what happens after him Donald Trump Junior? I don't know,
But those seventy eighty people, you you can't put that
genie back in the bottle. They're out, they know what's
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going on, to burying degrees, and they see the corruption.
They're not going to settle for politics as usual. So
it would be interesting to see. I just I just
don't think they have it in them to go and
take to the streets because they remember what happened in
January sixth. I've had too many of those people on
my show. I had Ashley I have Its Mother ons
a couple of times, and I know what they're you
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know what they've been through, and it's shameful and disgraceful
that so few people are are defending them and saying,
you know, two people denied all due processes is the
most ridiculous miscarriage of justice. But nobody's doing that, even
very few Republicans are doing And so I think everybody
out there that might take to this they keep that
in mind. Well, look what they did to us in
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January sixth, and you know what they do, drop drones bars.
At this point, I wouldn't trust it, the crazy work
Democrats over anything. They might drop a nuclear bomb on them.
I don't know what they would do.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I have no idea what they're going to do. All
I know is is that they've been able to cheat
with impunity. And when you anytime you have a situation
where someone commits a crime with impunity, they're very apt
to do it again. You know you talked about Michael
Cohen and how he changed and flipped. I had actually
had him on the show, I believe a couple of times.
I know at least once, and I had spoken to
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him all about three or four times on the phone
because back then when Trump was running back in twenty sixteen,
everybody was pounding him with the birth certificate stuff, you're
a birth and all that type of thing. So, as
the person who had been involved with our PIOS people
for a few years, I was giving some notes to
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Michael Cohen about how Trump might respond to that if
he's pounded with that. In that first debate where he
ended up getting into it with Megan Kelly and so forth,
but any at any rate, Cohen was, if anything, a
family man. In fact, during one of our conversations, he
received a phone call from his son, who was away
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at summer camp that they were allowed to make a
phone call back home every so often, and on that day,
it was his son's birthday, and he was like, oh,
my son's calling from camp. It's his birthday. Do you
mind if I put you on hold for a while, So,
you know, he put me on hold for about five
to ten minutes, and then he got back and he
was just full of nice things to say about his son.
So a lot of these loan applications that Cohen was
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accused of falsifying, his wife was a co signer on
one of those loans, and the deal was it was
sort of like, you know, hey, Cohen, if you don't cooperate,
we're not only going after you, we're going after your wife,
your parents are Your kids are going to have both
their parents in jail. And that's what he says was
his reason for flipping at that point. And he says,
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don't judge me too harshly. You don't know what you
would do if somebody was threatening your family. So anyway,
that's that's his story as to why he flipped. But
I mean, this guy, this guy, when he flipped though,
he really flipped because he was he was he was
even you know, like making fun of Donald Trump's private part.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean, yeah, well everybody does. And I've written a
lot about that.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
It's like it's it's a bizarre sucation they had with that.
And I said, you know, if he whipped it out
somehow on stage, wasn't they And it turned out that
wasn't true.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I don't know what they would do. They must jump
out of the window or something, because they're so committed
to this nun this bizarre perverted thing where that he
you know, he has to I don't. There's so many
things in that trumps.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
That's why it's definitely one of them. I've actually used
all the time. Your publicists promised me, is there anything
else you want to tell us about the book? I
know we don't want to give it all away because
we want people to buy it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
On my credit. That's because again, this is the passage
prologue and the situation. Because of that, the people could
read the early section judicial review, which Thomas Jefferson, my hero,
was very much against I think I have the first
person since then to ran and rave about it. But
if you want to look at a lot of these
problems we have in the court, they fall back to
judicial review, which the third branch. The judicial lands municial
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branch authority and shattered the checks and balances right at
the beginning, and Jefferson was one of the only ones
speaking out against them. Then of course, when Abraham Lincoln
created the first Imperial presidency, the executive shattered. So right
now you have an executive and judiciary. They're much more
powerful than the legislative, which is branch. We should have
the most control lever. We can theoretically clean house every
(37:44):
two years. But uh, and that that's what the legislative
has to start flexing their muscles, and it would start
if the Republicans are going to be an opposition party,
they have to they have to do what they didn't
do after January sixth, sho'd all been unified that So
this is ridiculous. Wasn't that an insurrection? These people were,
you're doing something, it's constancy protected. But they didn't. They
most of all the leaderships outs on. So that's people
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can they'll see parallels in history with different names and stuff.
Sound okay, maybe I see that now. That's so again.
If you read history, you realize that there's nothing doing
to the sun. It's just but it is getting worse now.
And if we don't do something, I don't know what
kind of government we're going to be living under here
if A Harris gets to be president.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The book comes out when.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
August twenty seventh officially, but it's been available for pre sales,
so people can order it pre ordered from Amazon, Barnsbow
and everywhere else whatever they are to just look for
the best deal.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Okay, let's say the name one more time. American Memory
Hole How the Court Historians promote Disinformation by Donald Jeffries.
Mister Jeffries, it's been a pleasure having you on the show.
It's one of those things where you don't find people
very often that are willing to step up up and
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tell the truth, and you, sir, are willing to do that.
We need more people like you, and I thank you
for doing the work that you do, the work that
you've done, because we live in a society where all
it takes to shut someone down is to point your
finger at them and laugh. You know, it's just kind
of like I told you, I was involved in the
birth thing with Sheriff Arpaio. It's amazing how many politicians
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the first time somebody pointed a finger at him and said,
ha ha, you're a birth that was it. They were done,
you know. Could you imagine, could you imagine if the
spines of our founding fathers were that week would still
be part of the British Empire. But anyway, again, mister Jeffries,
thank you for being on the show. Name of the book,
American Memory Hole, how the Court Historians promote disinformation available
(39:45):
for pre order right now. Do yourself a favor and
pre order it so you'll be sure to have a
copy whenever the book is released. Once again, thanks for
being here. I hope you have a great day.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh thanks so much for having me, Benja certainly in
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