September 26, 2024 • 50 mins
Josh Bernstein is by far one of the most cancelled Podcasters in America. Why? Because he's not afraid to speak the truth at a level that causes liberals to spontaniously combust.
You'll want to read is first book, Preserving Liberty available October 8th wherever good books are sold.
BIO: Josh Bernstein, author of Preserving Liberty: Bold and Brave Solutions to Save America and Create Permanent Freedom, is a talk show host, political analyst, commentator, and professional speaker, and is one of America’s most sought-after television and radio guests in media today. Josh has been called a “political savant” by the late legendary Hall of Fame broadcaster Barry Farber due to his almost encyclopedic breakdown on many of the important issues of our times. Josh was the former national spokesman for The Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC.US), which is one of America’s leading seniors’ health advocacy groups—with over two million members. As a highly in-demand guest, Josh delivers a unique and original perspective that is thought provoking, engaging, truthful, and well sourced. His main areas of expertise include but are not limited to: world affairs, globalism, nationalism, healthcare, current events, social media, political trends, media bias, academia, immigration, and national security.
You'll want to read is first book, Preserving Liberty available October 8th wherever good books are sold.
BIO: Josh Bernstein, author of Preserving Liberty: Bold and Brave Solutions to Save America and Create Permanent Freedom, is a talk show host, political analyst, commentator, and professional speaker, and is one of America’s most sought-after television and radio guests in media today. Josh has been called a “political savant” by the late legendary Hall of Fame broadcaster Barry Farber due to his almost encyclopedic breakdown on many of the important issues of our times. Josh was the former national spokesman for The Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC.US), which is one of America’s leading seniors’ health advocacy groups—with over two million members. As a highly in-demand guest, Josh delivers a unique and original perspective that is thought provoking, engaging, truthful, and well sourced. His main areas of expertise include but are not limited to: world affairs, globalism, nationalism, healthcare, current events, social media, political trends, media bias, academia, immigration, and national security.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised. Welcome to the Tea Party
Power Hour. I am your host, Mark Gallar. My special
guest today is mister Josh Bernstein. You know him from
(00:23):
Josh Bernstein Uncensored. He is the author of a brand
new book called Preserving Liberty, Bold and Brave Solutions to
Save America and create Permanent Freedom. Josh, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's great to be on the program with you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, I tell you what. You've got a great podcast,
a lot of great guests, and we're happy to have
you here today to give us your personal take as
the subject of an interview instead of the host. And
you mentioned to me before we begin that this is
your first book ever.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It is. Yeah, it's actually the first book I've ever done.
It's an interesting story. I actually wrote something called The
Great Squanderer about ten plus years ago, and of course
at the time, it was about Barack Obama squandering his
presidency as the first black president and using race relations
and tensions and all that to kind of do what
(01:17):
he did. And obviously he didn't heal the country. He
kind of squandered his presidency, and so I kind of
wrote this thing. And then I actually went to Turning Point.
And I was at Turning Point and I noticed that
there was a bunch of booths set up and I
saw this one booth with the publishing company, and I
walked up to the booth and they had books out,
(01:37):
and I said, oh, doctor Ben Carson, he's been on
my show. And doctor Robert Malone, I've interviewed that person.
And doctor Pierre Corey, I've interviewed that person. So finally
the girl says, who are you? And I said, I
said who I was and what I've done, and she goes, oh,
have you ever written a book? And I said, no,
I haven't. I said I wrote something about ten years
ago and I didn't know what to do with it,
and I just kind of let it sit for a while.
(01:58):
And she's like, oh, well, you should update it and
send it in and see if you can get it published.
And so I thought to myself, you know what, I've
been sitting on this thing for a while, Let's give
that a shot. So I got home and I kind
of updated it to be twenty twenty four's message, of course,
and it was about fifteen pages long, and I was
getting ready to submit it, and then all of a sudden,
(02:19):
Aj Rice from Publuce PR sent out a PR statement
that he sends out for different types of guests to
have on the show and things like that, and one
of them was Tony Lyons. And Tony is the head
publisher at Skyhorse Publishing. And I said to myself, I
grabbed the business card from the girl, Rachel, and I said,
wait a minute, isn't this the same company? And sure
(02:42):
enough it was, yes, correct, And so I had her
card in my hand and so I called AJ and
I was like, AJ, I need Tony on right away.
And so my goal was to interview Tony to talk
about RFK Junior and to talk about RFK Junior's book
and things like that. And we had a wonderful conversation,
and he kind of threw a wrench in things because
(03:04):
he asked me if I would be interested in interviewing
his guests, his writers, his authors on my show, and
I said, sure, I'd be happy to do that. And
then in the process of that, I also said, hey,
I wrote this, I talked to Rachel and this and that,
and He's like, oh no, problem, send it directly to me.
So this was in January. This was late December, actually
in January, and nothing really happened until about March, and
(03:27):
then I got the okay to write Preserving Liberty. And
it's been an amazing experience, you know, when you get
a chance to write a book. But it's interesting that
once you get the green light, you're like, Okay, now
I got to write a book. So I went through
and I went through a lot of different things that
I've written in the past, and you know, older shows
(03:49):
and investigations that I've done and conducted myself. Because again
I've been at this for well over twelve years, and
I just kind of put it together and I said,
you know, let's think of a theme here. What am
I good at. Well, I'm good at solving problems. I'm
good at presenting an issue and a problem and then
coming up with a viable solution that is liberty based
(04:10):
and less government. And so I decided to do ten
chapters that kind of fit that model, if you will,
And that's the result of the book.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Great story and by the way, Skyhorse, Regnery, Rachel Marble
great people to work with.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, they're all amazing and AJ Rice as well.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He'll be my guest this coming Monday or Tuesday, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So. Yes, he's got a new book too.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, he gave us a sneak peek several months ago.
He came on the show and gave me an advanced
copy and it was just a great interview. And so
now that the book is actually coming out, I thought, Okay,
we've got to have AJ back on the show. And yes,
I'm on that mailing list too. And AJ is doing
a lot to help people spread truth, spread ammunition for
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the people the office. Water Cooper who always has this
more't Alecki liberal who's going to come up and say, yeah,
you know Trump's Trump's going to eliminate democracy in our country.
He's an existential threat to democracy and freedom in America.
You know they AJ is one of those people, just
like Tony Lyons is one of those people who is
helping people get the truth out.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, I've known
Aj for well over ten years. He's a patriot, he's
a good close friend of mine. He's an incredible human being.
Tony is amazing. Tony gave me, you know, an opportunity
of the lifetime to be able to write this book,
and I'm just so humbled and appreciative and grateful to
both of them.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, like I said, great people, and we're fortunate to
have great people out there. This morning, I just interviewed
Catherine engelbricked again from True to Vote. I mean people
who are dedicating their lives to getting the truth out there,
even though it means taking a lot of flak. But
like they say, you catch more flak when you're over
the target. So hey, let's let's dive into the book.
The book is called Preserving Liberty, Old and Brave Solutions
(06:01):
to Save America and create Permanent Freedom. And looking at
some of the advanced reviews for the book, one of
the things that said that caught my eye was that
the great thing about Josh Bernstein is he doesn't just
point out problems. He offers up solutions. And I have
to say, being you know, about ninety percent through with
(06:22):
the book, that that is the case. And there's there
are too many people, you know what they say, if
you point something out you don't have a solution, you're
just whining. And you're not a whiner, You're you're actually
you're actually offering up proposals. So with that in mind,
let's dive in. I'm gonna on this first one. I'm
actually going to challenge you a little bit because you
said you kept saying that through the book that the
(06:42):
people have the power, and I got to tell you,
I don't feel like that's always true. As one of
the people. You know, it's a humble little podcast guy.
I think that there are so many instances of people
having their power taken away from them, you know, the
Jason prisoners for example, Donald Trump. I mean, you have
(07:03):
a situation where there's cancel culture. I remember an NFL
football player saying he supported Donald Trump and the next
days bank said, come get your money. We don't want
your business. You know, the irs going after conservative groups
in terms of whether or not they can have their
nonprofit profit status, you know. I mean, it's just it
just goes on and on. I mean, you could be
(07:24):
a small mom and pop business and you know, if
you're selling American flags or something like that, they may
look at you and say that's another Trump supporter, and
then in the middle of the night you lose your
ability to process credit cards. So, I mean, there are
a lot of people they're not playing fair. I honestly
think they're breaking the law. But it can lead and
I'd like to get your thought on this, it can
lead to people feeling powerless. So how do we get
(07:47):
that power back?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, I think the number one thing that we have
to understand is that as a collective, as the people
of this country, we have the power if we know
how to use it and if we recognize it. And
so when you have a illegitimate and I'll use those words,
an illegitimate governor as we do in Arizona, or if
(08:10):
you have you know, many senators and Congressmen that were
not truly elected, they were selected by you know, fraud. Okay,
I'll say that, no problem. How do you get around
these people that make the laws. Well, there's really only
one way to do it, and that is to do
ballot initiatives and to be active to get signature requirements,
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things like that, and bypass unruly, unethical and uncooperative members
of either Congress and or governors, secretaries of states offices,
whatever it is that is impeding the flow of freedom
and liberty and prosperity for the country. You have to
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be able to think outside the box and what my
book aims to do is to teach those people exactly
how to use that power that they may not know
that they have. And a lot of that, again, like
I said, is to get the ideas in front of
the voters and bypass Congress and bypass governors and things
(09:16):
like that. Is it impossible, No, it's not impossible. Is
it difficult? It can be. You know, you're going to
run into obstacles. There are going to be people that
are going to challenge signatures and things like that. But
when you make things too big to rig, if you will,
using Trump's words, then you have an option and an
(09:37):
opportunity to change things. And obviously remember that change all
starts at the local level. It's not necessarily at the
at the federal level. It's at the local level. So
if you can change what's happening in your immediate area,
you can then expound on that change and move to
state representatives and you know, state senators and put pressure
(09:58):
campaigns on them to do certain things. And then if
they won't listen, then you do ballot initiatives. You know,
you start you start petitions and things like that, You
start recall petitions, you know, you know, there's a group
out here that wanted to recall Katie Hobbes and I
was part of that. And I think what happened is
(10:19):
what happened in California. Too many hands in the pot,
so to speak, and you know, then the infighting starts
and nothing gets done. So discipline is also another factor
in creating permanent change.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, you have to stick to it. I mean, yeah,
you can't give up because this has been a prolonged war,
prolonged silent war. A lot of people and I mentioned
this in an earlier show. Today, a lot of people
call me and say, Mark, how did we get here?
It's just like, how did they change things overnight? Well,
they didn't change things overnight. They've been working at taking
over news and media, entertainment, media, and academia for one
(10:59):
hundred years, you know, and they were patient. They were
patient about it. And now as if we've been sleeping
the whole time, conservatives are waking up and going damn.
It seems like they have all the judges, they are
all the TV shows, all this, you know, the sports
where everybody's woke. You know, how did this happen so quickly?
Like they said it didn't. But the thing is because
(11:20):
it didn't happen overnight, it's not going to be fixed
overnight either. I think you pointed that out in the book.
So if I am sitting in Tupelo, Mississippi, right now,
and I'm listening to the show, and someone is sitting
there saying, you know, Josh is right, I need to
be motivated. I need to get involved. I shouldn't be
one of those people that just screams at the television
set and gets mad. I should somehow sublimate that anger
(11:44):
into positive action. What are some of the things you
mentioned a few of them, But what would you tell
somebody right now? I mean, at the very least make
a campaign contribution, or what would your advice be.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, I mean obviously campaign contributions are good, but it's
not just about voting. You know, voting is not enough.
People need to understand that your vote isn't just enough.
What you need to do is once you vote, you
have to become civically active. And so I would tell
people right now three things. Number One, there's an organization
(12:16):
and it's called Stop Bogus Ballots dot com. Stop Bogus
Ballots dot com. And this is Jay Valentine's group. They've
been working on something for over three years. The technology
is so advanced that they can check a ballot before
it's counted or before it even comes in, and they
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You should see the work they've been doing in Wisconsin.
It's unbelievable the amount of work that they've done. So
I would definitely tell people to go there to donate
to that cause and also to sign up in your
state so that you can become an active person that
fights against these fake mail in ballots. That would be
one thing. Another thing I would tell you to do
(12:59):
is I would tell people wherever you live to go
to a search and put in drop boxes near me.
It doesn't matter where you are, and you'll get a
location map of where these drop boxes are. And I
would tell you to take five or six or seven
of your friends and go and work in teams because
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the drop boxes are vulnerable, especially after eight pm and
up to six am. So I would make teams going
in and watching these drop boxes, especially in you know,
in the Swing States and things like that. The other
thing is is Charlie Kirk and turning point action. I
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mean something that's never been done before, where we have
subcontracted out to get out the vote operation for a
major party, and in this case it seems as though
at least we're hoping that it's working. You know, you
have this TP action, it's called tpaction dot com forward
slash Commit one hundred, So it's tpaction dot Com forward
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slash Commit one hundred. Even if you don't live in
a swing state. They will pay for your accommodations to
come in and register new voters. And remember early voting unfortunately,
which there was no such thing as early voting, but
early voting starts this month and even last month and
into October, so we need more and more people. The
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other thing is hunt the Vote dot org. Hunt the
Vote dot org. This is where we can get registered Hunters.
Less than thirty percent of Hunters are actually registered to vote,
which is insane to think because of the threats against
the Second Amendment. I mean, what is wrong with these people?
Makes no sense to me. But you can go to
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hunt the Vote dot org and you can sign up there.
I believe ted Nugen's organization is also behind that organization.
We've got to get these low propensity voters, these Hunters
out there in Pennsylvania and Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia and
Arizona and New Hampshire and all that. We got to
get them registered to vote. And we've got to get
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them voting because if we had hunters, I mean there's
three hundred there was three hundred thousand hunters in Pennsylvania
alone that were not even registered to vote. I mean,
could you just imagine if you've got the majority of
those people registered and now voting. The other thing is
we need more men voting because women vote more than men.
And it's amazing to think, you know, it is true. Yeah,
(15:30):
they vote more than men. And it makes sense if
you think about it. We've had the right to vote,
you know, the whole time. Right now, all of a sudden,
the women are like, oh, we have the right to vote,
and you know they don't take it for granted as
men do. I'll get it next time the game's on today.
That's not going to work, you know, that's not going
to save this country. So those are three suggestions that
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I would make almost immediately, And again I have literally
nothing to do with any of those groups at all,
but I just want to see this country be saved.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, I think a lot of us do, and what
you're saying about certain segments of voters and not making
any sense. I'm Catholic. I know people that have anti
abortion bumper stickers from one end of the RESUV to
the other. But you ask them, hey, if you decide
you're going to vote for kind of jokingly, and they go, well,
you know this was back during the you know, the
(16:21):
Obama McCain race. Well you know, I'm still thinking it over.
I just don't know. I don't know what I want
to do. It's so hard to make a decision. I'm
sitting there going you've got anti abortion bumper stickers from
one end of your car or the other, and you
can't make a decision on something like that, you know,
I mean, I just don't understand that. I don't understand.
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I'm Catholic. I can say this. If somebody's a problem
with it, right and me call me. I don't understand
why any Catholic would vote Democrat. It makes zero sense.
I don't understand why Jewish people vote Democrat. I don't
quite get it, and I certainly don't understand. I certainly
don't understand people who are how can I put this?
You know they own guns, they have guns in their house,
(17:05):
you know, like Kamala Harris, you come in to my house,
I'm gonna shoot you. And yet they vote for the
Democrat Party. And I had and I didn't argue with
her because I had her on just to get her story.
But it was Hunter Biden's baby, mama London roberts On,
and oh yeah, her family runs a gun business, okay,
(17:26):
And she said abortion a boarding Hunter's baby was absolutely
out of the question. It wasn't something she was going
to do. So she wasn't big an abortion. She's for
the Second Amendment, but her own family tells her she's
a liberal. So why would somebody who's for the Second
Amendment against abortion, you know, vote for the Democrat Party.
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What other pressing issue out there is overriding those two?
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well, I've said this a lot, and I've gotten a
lot of hate mail for it. There's look, there's the
there's the Catholic right, and there's the Catholic left, and
obviously the Catholic left or the fake Catholics. These are
the ones that believe in abortion on demand and all
these other you know, liberal policies and things like that.
You got a problem with the pope. I'll say, at
point blank, we do. We have a major problem with
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the pope. He's a communist. And so, you know, you
have these factions within, you know, these different chasms of
the church. And as far as Jews are concerned, which
I am one proud you know, Jewish both parents. A
lot of times American Jews are actually liberals first and
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Jews second. And let me tell you, the Jewish lobby
does not like when Bernstein says that one but it's
absolutely true. It is absolutely true. And I'll explain it.
One of the reasons Jews vote liberal is because of
Jewish guilt. Because as Jews, we are the chosen people,
and as the chosen people, we are typically not always,
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but typically more well off in society. We're in the
upper echelon of society. You know, we're more wealthy, We're
you know, we're more into academia and doctors and lawyers
and architects and all those things. And so there's an
internal guilt that a lot of Jews, American Jews feel
because they're the chosen people and that they're well off.
And so what do they do. They try to bring
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up the little guy they try to bring up, you know,
the disenfranchise, they try to bring up the minority communities.
But what they don't understand and realize is that it's
those people that they're trying to support to bring them
up to their level, are the most anti Semitic. So
it ends up becoming a suicide vote. And I've said
that for years, and I've been attacked by the Jewish lobby.
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I've been attacked by so many different Jewish organizations, and
I wear every single one of them proudly, you know,
as a medal on my chest, because I have as
my duty to wake up Jewish voters to realize that
if the you know what ever hit the fan, who
do you think would protect the Jews. It'd be the
Evangelical right, and it would be the Christians, you know,
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the ones that go and fight in our wars. It
wouldn't be the liberal Jews. And so I've always exposed that,
and I've always pushed to have more and more Jewish
voters become you know, conservative voters and vote for America
First policies and principles.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And what kind of pushback do you get.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh, I've been threatened, I've you know, you can't ever
write for our you know, publication. You know this, and
now you're a disgrace to your own people, you know,
all the typical stuff. You know. I'm the type of
guy that goes after you know, Chuck Schumer, George Soros,
you know, Jerry Nadler, all these people. You know. I
go after them viciously because as far as I'm concerned,
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I have nothing but disdain for all of them because
they're communists.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
We need to take a quick little break to do
some business with America, and when we get back, we'll
be visiting more with Josh Bernstein, author of Preserving Liberty.
(21:18):
And we are back with Josh Bernstein, the author of
Preserving Liberty, Bold and brave solutions to save America and
create permanent freedom. Okay, let's let's get back into the book.
Uh how can I put this? I I think everything
in the book you're saying is a great suggestion, But
I still wonder what we do with that half of
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America that's drank the liberal liberal kool aid. And you
know when I when I when I discussed that, I
mean I have pressed liberals and they will not say
it's wrong about drag queens grooming little boys in kindergarten classrooms,
or teaching kids they can change their gender by cutting
off bottom parts, and the schools can set up transgender
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medical appointments for kids, you know, without telling the parents,
you know. And I also, you know, I don't believe
in killing unborn children. And you look at these people
and they seem normal and they seem nice. But they're
not going to criticize their party or they're going to say, well,
I don't agree with everything the Democrat Party does, but
I'm not a one issue voter. And it's like, well,
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what is your issue? I hate Donald Trump? So anyway,
what is the solution? And your book offers up a
lot of solutions, but what are the or what is
the solution for all these liberal zombies who have somehow
been persuaded that up is down and down is up,
and east is west and west is east and you know,
it's it's fine. You got the w e F having
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speeches about how we need to normalize and decriminalize pedophilia.
I mean, these people lost their damn minds. What do
we do with these people?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly. I know years ago these people that
would have said that they know or confused about this
or that and their gender. Guess what, we locked them
up in insane asylums and we fed them full of
you know, thorazine, and they were never heard from or
seen from again. Perhaps maybe we need to go back
to that and show that they are mentally ill for
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having these thoughts. I'm obviously one of the more censored
people in this country, which is why I have no
problem saying the things that I'm saying to you right now.
I think that it is a mental issue and a
mental disorder, and it needs to be treated as such.
We should not be celebrating it. We should not be
giving it colors and rainbows and all this other stuff.
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But that's a story for another day. So I think
education is key. You know, I've said this many many times.
You know that if you can educate people more and more,
then they're going to start to understand and wake up.
You know. You never hear this, Oh, I used to
be a conservative Republican and now I'm a flaming Democrat,
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liberal extremist. You never hear that, right, You always hear
it's the opposite way. I used to be a liberal.
I used to believe in this and this and this.
But then I woke up. I found out what was
really happening. I found out the media, you know, the
prostitutes in the media were lying to me and all that.
And now I'm a conservative and now I get it.
Now I understand it. And what ends up happening is
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when those people do finally wake up, then they're so
angry that they were lied to and deceived for so
long that they become really great activists in trying to
change the hearts and minds of others. So I think
that that's a big part of it. That's what I've
done with my show for many years. I kind of
call myself a conservative vampire, where I like to turn people,
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you know, to the right and to liberty and prosperity
and all that. And that's what's key. I think education
is key, and being brave enough to step up in
front of a group of people that you don't agree
with and that don't agree with you and their hearts
and minds with facts and you know, and taking the
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emotion out of the equation and challenging them. Why is
it that you feel that way? What made you come
to that decision? Why don't you like President Trump? What
has he done to you personally? Accept made your life
incredibly better for four straight years. Turn it around on them,
is what I would say.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and I've done that, and I've had people you
press them against the wall and you say no, seriously,
I am open to having my mind changed. If there's
something about President Trump that's bad for America, tell me,
especially with regard to policy, what policies of his made
your life worse? And man, they just get real quiet
and go, well, you know, it's not so much about policy.
(25:44):
I just think Trump's kind of a jerk. And well,
you know Biden's kind of a jerk too, But you
voted on him. Well, I didn't know a lot of
the things about Biden when I voted for Biden. I
didn't realize some of the stuff about him and his
family and what they would do. Oh okay, so you're
going to vote for Trump this time? No, No, I
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don't like Trump. It takes so much to get through
to them. Now, let's talk about this, because I think
this is very the thing about twenty nine percent of
people identifying as preppers in the United States, that's one
hell of a surrogate marker for people thinking the you
know what is about to hit the fans. So talk
to me about that nine percent. And that's an overall number.
(26:27):
That's not just conservatives, that's everybody, right, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, Yeah, that is a high number. It is a
high number, and quite frankly, I wish it was higher,
if you want to know the truth, I wish it
was sixty seventy eighty percent because if it was, then
these people would not be able to get away with
some of the things that they're doing. So I think
that being prepared is important. You know. One of the
things that has happened recently with RFK Junior kind of
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joining forces with President Trump is they've put a you know,
a target if you will, on things that normally conservatives
and Republicans don't really talk about. They don't talk about
crunchy food, they don't talk about seed oils, they don't
talk about childhood obesity. These are just not the issues
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that conservatives typically talk about. So having someone like RFK Jr.
Into the mix is now opening and expanding that conversation,
which I think is a good thing. I don't think
that's a bad thing at all, and especially if it expands.
You know, the map so to speak, and we bring
in more females. Look, I've said this to the Trump campaign.
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You have two new weapons. Okay. Those weapons are RFK
Jor and Tulsa Gabbard. And they're very different from the
majority of Make America Great Again in America firsters and
things like that. Not that they're not, but they're just different.
So they ought to have their own set of things
that they're allowed to go out and talk about, whether
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it be healthy foods, a healthy water supply, you know,
seed oils, whatever it may be. Give them that opportunity
to go out there and do their own rallies and
talk about just those things. Stay in your lanes, but
go out there and talk about what you're experts at
and bring that extra three and a half to four
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percent of female voters back over to President Trump before
the election, because, like I said before, there's a lot
of these single issue voters, these women voters that for
whatever reason, you know, killing their babies on the day
they're born is more important than inflation, gas prices, all
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the other different things that we're obviously suffering from, potential
nuclear war, I mean, all of it. And so it's
like they feel as though something's being taken from them,
and that's obviously not the case. And I've actually told
the Trump campaign don't run from this issue. Don't run
from the abortion issue. Embrace it head on, run straight
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into it like a wall. It's very easy to do.
Take thirty seconds of the Center for Medical Progress ad
that shows them talking about ripping off arms and legs
and limbs and selling them. Make a thirty second attack
ad and put it in the swing states and watch
what happens. But you know what, a lot of these
people are not brave enough to do these things, right,
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That's the sad part.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, they have a pretty strong count cancel culture, and
I'm not surprised that some people are afraid because they
have indeed ruined people's lives. It's I had a guy
on the other day that was a senator from I
want to say Indiana state senator, and because he had
some tie to Trump, they came after him with, oh,
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you committed you know, some sort of voter crime or
some sort of election crime. And he was when they
finally told him what it was all about. They dropped
two hundred and forty thousand pages of discovery on him
right before the trial I mean, it's the kind of
thing they do to people. This guy ended up spending
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four months in jail. But I'm not saying you're wrong. Yes,
we need to be brave. I mean, I think it's
so funny that Washington, you know, paddle or rode across
the Delaware and what happened. We had a freedom in
this country ultimately because of that a lot of other
things he did. But there are people in this country
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right now, Josh, that won't give up their bud light.
They still shop at Target. They've got everything I need.
They won't even they won't even stop shopping at Target
or stop shopping with bud Light. And there are so
many other, you know, examples we could give. Are you
doing okay on time? We've gone a little bit over.
I had one more question at least one day.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, No, we're good, We're fine.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We're fine, Okay. Good Now. In the book, you point
out that in a Heartland res Musing poll that one
out of five voters surveyed admitted that they committed voter
fraud in twenty twenty. Yet we have Democrats who say, well,
there might have been a little voter fraud, but there
certainly wasn't enough to tip the election, or some of
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them would just say there's been no proof given that
there was any voter fraud whatsoever based on this poll
and other things that you know about. What would you
say to those Democrats who say there was no voter
fraud in twenty twenty, Well.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I would say, number one, that they've admitted to a crime.
And as I believe, I actually say that in the book.
I said, if the FBI wasn't busy, you know, trying
to grab grandmothers with knitting needles, they would actually do
their job for once, and they'd go after the people
that have emitted in a survey that they actually committed
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voter fraud by mail. It is the worst form of
voter fraud that there can be, which is why we
need to watch the draw boxes. Excuse me, and I
don't care what the Department of Justice says, I don't
care what any legal AFAE already says. We need to
watch these drop boxes because the bottom line is, that
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is how the fraud is happening. That's how the fraud
happened in the past. And you know, people can even
contact their local police and say, hey, what is it?
Specifically or the sheriff's office that you're planning on doing
to watch the drop boxes so that we don't have
a repeat of two thousand mules like we did in
twenty twenty. I would encourage people to call the non
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emergency line of your local police department and asking that question.
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking that question
and seeing if they're actually serious about stopping the voter fraud.
That's the thing. We have to be brave, Like I said,
bold and brave solutions to save America and create permanent freedom.
My book is designed to destroy Washington. I literally wrote it.
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As a matter of fact. Chapter four is dismantling Washington.
I can't say it any more clearer than that. I
talked about how we have to get rid of the
administrative state. I talk about how these people are useless
eaters as far as I'm concerned, They're just useless employees.
These eight thousand ses employees out there, all of them
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should be digging in a dumpster for a peach pit
rather than destroying the next administration coming in. And that's
why I talked about that as well in the book. Look,
I'll give you a quick you know, statistic how many
registered lobbyists? You said you read most of it, So
how many registered lobbyists are in Washington, d C. Which
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remember Washington, d C Is only sixty eight point five
square miles?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Was it sixty thousand? I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Twelve thousand, five hundred registered lobbyists in a sixty eight
point five square mile area, that is like one hundred
and eighty yeah, plus.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think I remember when I was a kid, there
was a cartoon in the paper and it had a
rather average looking mom and an average looking kid, and
there was a politician had a button on it said politician,
And there was this beautiful hot si tatsy lobbyist. It
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just said she, you know, busty and everything else, and
had a big button on it said lobbyist. And the
mother is telling the child, of course daddy still loves us.
Why you know the couple was, I mean, the wife
and the son were the American people, and the wife
was telling the son, of course daddy still loves us.
Why would you ask? And you know, the dad's drilling
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all over. This looks like a stripper or something. And
that's kind of what a lot of us think, is
that they are there to pad their own pockets. They
don't care about us. And you know, we hear about
crazy things all the time. You know, this is off
the subject. But I was watching a show. I'm in Texas.
I was watching a show coming out of Houston about
a group called the Chicanos Squad and they were brought
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in too so all crimes that the other cops couldn't
solve because they didn't speak Spanish. And they went to
this one bar following up on an old cold case.
That was their job to go out and get rid
of all these cold cases on the books. And they
went into a bar and they asked this woman, you know,
did you were you here when the murder happened two
years ago? And she was like, yeah, well, could you
(35:22):
give us any information about the shooter. I've already done that.
I gave it to the police. He still comes in
all the time. I called him. One time, I said
he's here now they didn't send anybody, and so he said, well,
the next time he comes in, call us. And so
the next time that guy came in, the Chicano Squad
went in and arrested him. But when they this woman
called the police and said the shooter is here now
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and the Houston Police Department didn't even respond. So I feel,
you know, that's one low level example, but most of
us just kind of feel that government is not responsive.
They don't give a damn about the average individual. You know,
it's all about keeping the powers that be over them,
it's all about retaining power. But there are very very
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few politicians, and I see you've had some of them,
you know, on your show. I saw, you know, Curie
like MTG. But I just feel like I'm an abandoned child,
you know, I don't know how to get past that.
It's just like they don't care. You're going to send
off a letter and they're not going to respond back.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, look, I think that you know, one of the
ways that you can get their attention, and I do
mean through voting or anything like that, is to have
a groundswell of support against their opponent, you know, challenge them,
primary them, things like that. That's happened in the past,
and it's worked in the past, and there's also been
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times where it didn't work in the past. But if
it didn't work in the past, it's because we didn't
have enough people or we didn't have enough of a
good enough care it shall we say to challenge that person.
So I think, you know, like I said, a lot
of it has to do with us in mass numbers.
We the people have the power. We just don't know
(37:12):
that we have the power, and we don't know how
to use the power. And so, like I said, I
wrote this book to be a textbook. This is the
type of book that my number one goal for the
reader was to have numerous audible gasps. I want you
to go, does that say what it really said? And
then grab your glasses and read it closer and go,
(37:33):
oh my god, that's exactly what it does say. This
is a book that you're going to read with a
yellow highlighter in your hand, the entire book, because you're
going to be highlighting so many things that you never
have heard before and that you've learned on the fly,
and you're going to want to retain and remember some
of that stuff. But like I said, ultimately it's to
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create an army. This book is to create an army
of activists. That's how I wrote it, and and that's
why I wrote it because it's not about one person.
It's not about President Trump, It's not about me or
you it's about all of us on the same page
fighting for the same causes. And if we can do that,
it doesn't matter what the government says or does, we
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will be successful. But it takes a large, large army
to be able to.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Do it, it does you know. I always wished we
had something called the conservative consumer army. And that's whenever
a company like let's say, who was it Camping World
comes out and says, if you're if you're a Trump supporter,
I really don't want you shopping here. Well, what if
two million people called camper World the Camping World the
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next day and said, I've bought products from you in
the past, I'm never going to buy a product from
you again. Your business is finished, you know. And then
you start going to the money supply of Camper World
the banks and go, you know what, you're loaning to
a Camping World. I don't think I like that. You know,
You've got two million people ringing the phones off the
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wall saying, you know what, as long as you financially
support Camping World, I don't think I'm going to do
any business with your bank. And it doesn't matter if
it's true, it doesn't matter if you've ever done business
with their bank. The bottom line is is they need
to know they've rattled some cages, They've ticked a lot
of people off. And if every time that happened, like
if I like it, Target man, every time I drive by,
(39:27):
Target the parking lot's full. Why I live in a
conservative Red county. Why is that parking full? You know,
I have a friend that can't stop drinking, but like,
why not?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
One of those things that I talk about in the
book in the China section, the chapter is called the
China Syndrome, and I actually talk about how if Americans,
and that means all of us, if we're going to
continue this bad behavior to buy Chinese made products and
goods and services, then we're going to have to force
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companies to no longer be able to sell them at
affordable prices. And I call it the rain in the
China Competitive Act is what I call it in the book.
And I want Chinese made products to have a fifty
to one hundred percent tariff on them. I want them
to be more expensive than products made in any other country.
(40:24):
Of course America would be number one, but any other
country and number two. I want them labeled. I want
them shamed in the corner that says these are Chinese
made products and have them separate from the rest of
everything else in the store. Look, I've gone after China
so much. They have attacked me, my website, four thousand
computers all at once in one time. And I have
(40:47):
no doubt when this book comes out, they're going to
come after me again because I go after China in
a major, major way in this book. But the bottom
line is we have to do that. We absolutely have
to do. That is sold as convenience and cheap labor
is the worst of it all. For instance, Timu. Timu
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is the parent companies called Pindawdao. Pindowdao is PDD Holdings, Inc.
That's what it's known for in America. But Timu is
undercutting American businesses by seventy five eighty percent in overall pricing.
So you can get a Timu ad and you can
buy something on Timu for seventy percent less than you
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can buy it anywhere else. As a matter of fact,
they're taking over seventeen percent of the US market share already.
So to these moms and pops out there, if you
see these ads for Timu and you go out and
you buy anything online using Timu, you are automatically supporting
slave labor because those products are made by people in
(41:53):
internment camps in the Xijiang Province of northwest China. That's
why they can undercut America businesses and sell things for
seventy to seventy five percent less because they're not paying
any labor costs. So folks out there stop using TMU. Okay,
I could probably get killed for saying something like that publicly,
but you know what, you have to be crazy brave
(42:15):
in order to make change in this world. And so
I go after China and I expose them, and the
bottom line is we're going to have to basically force
Americans to stop buying Chinese made products by making the
products that they're used to buying at Walmart and Target
and elsewhere much less affordable.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Well, and another very important area, and we found out
about this during the pandemic, was you know that so
much of our pharmaceutical world comes from China. A lot
of the precursor products that are used to make the
pharmaceutical pills and drugs come from China. And we're in
a situation and we found that out during the pandemic,
where if China wanted to, they could just turn off
(42:59):
the switch and the middle the night and say, oh, no,
you're not getting any more of these materials substances to
make drugs anymore. You're not You're not going to get
any We're cutting you off, and suddenly, all of a sudden,
we could have a pandemic in America and no drugs
to treat them with. It is absolutely stupid to rely
on an enemy nation to provide you the precursor materials
(43:21):
to a lot of the pharmaceuticals that are being put out,
And yet we do that. I I really don't understand.
I mean, we have American politicians who love shipping jobs overseas.
They love having companies come into our country and take
over large businesses, take over shipping areas. It just I
(43:44):
can't even talk them some ad and you know what
else do they do? Oh and they let they let
China buy farm land right in your American military basis. Gee,
what the hell could go wrong there?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
You know, I don't know exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, it's absolutely crazy, But your book helps figure You're
out that craziness. And I'll repeat the praise that you
received from another reviewer who said that the great thing
about your book is you don't just come up with problems.
You come up with solutions. And I'm here to testify
that you do that very very well. So everyone has
to run out right now, Well, actually you can do
it from here. You don't mind if they bite it
(44:18):
through Amazon.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Do you? No? No, no, Amazon is the best for
the algorithms. I know here we are talking about, you know,
fighting against big, big corporations and all that. But you
know the bottom line is that they have the best
algorithms and therefore they have you know, the best promotion.
So the more people that purchase the book and pre
order the book, the more likely that other independent book
(44:42):
distributors will see that action and start to kind of
look at it and say, oh wow, there's a lot
of there's a lot of you know, energy on this,
there's a lot of you know, publicity on this, there's
a lot of marketing on this, and they'll start buying
the book as well. But yeah, look, the bottom line
is you can go to my website Jbushow dot com
and you can get it there. It's actually would bring
(45:03):
you to the same spot. So I would just tell people, yeah,
just go to Amazon and pre order the book, and
you know, it's a book that, like I said, you're
going to want to have a yellow highlighter in your
hand and it would be a great Christmas Christmas gift
for the upcoming holiday season and things like that. So yeah,
(45:23):
I'm really proud of it. It's a totally different book.
There are ten legislative solutions and an additional thirty other
solutions inside the book. You can attest to that because
you read through it. I had Congressman Paul Gosar do
the forward to it, knowing that I have a member
of Congress that can introduce some of the things in
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the book as legislation in the next Congress. It's got
two New York Times bestselling authors that have endorsed the book,
Alan Dershowitz and Roger Stone, and there's also a whole
bunch of other people that have endorsed the book as well.
So I'm really proud of it, and I would really
appreciate it if folks would grab the book and read
(46:04):
it and see for yourselves.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Absolutely. The book is called Preserving Liberty, Bold and Brave
Solutions to save America and create create permanent freedom. I
get it for a conservative friend for Christmas. Get it
for a liberal friend for Christmas. Just say, hey, you
know this doesn't really hit the social issues very hard.
This is hard policy here. Read this and tell me
what you think about it. Challenge them read me, read
(46:27):
it and tell me what you think is wrong with it.
But yeah, liberals need to read this book and conservatives
need to read it too, because I have people that
will come to me and say, oh, hey, Mark, I've
got a liberal i'm arguing with and he's telling me this,
this and this, and I just don't have time to
keep up with all the politics. But you do tell
me what I should say back to him. And if
you read a book like this, and I told you this,
(46:48):
I think before the show. I like to and I
read a lot of books, and I know you do too,
because it's part of what we do. But when I
read a book, I have this little unit I call
facts facts per page. And in terms of facts per page,
you are getting a whole lot of meat and no
(47:10):
fat whatsoever. This book is jam packed with facts. Not
a single page wastes your time in any way. There
is no filler. This book is the real. This book
is the real. Deal when it comes to solutions. So
if you're too busy to watch podcasts or watch you know,
Fox News or whatever, or read the daily paper, read
(47:32):
this book and it's going to catch you up over
many years. And I promise you you will not lose
any more arguments with a liberal. So anyway you've given
me more time.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
You'll get ten You'll get ten years. You'll get at
least ten years worth of knowledge in one hundred and
fifty seven pages.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's a shock when I saw that. I and again,
I don't want to be meant to anyone else who's
ever been on the show, but you know, I've seen
five hundred page books that could have been two hundred,
you know, and there's a lot of that out there.
And I will just say that this book is very
efficient and doesn't waste any of your time. And if
you're looking for a book like that, that'll catch you
(48:09):
up over the past ten years so you can stand
your ground when you're challenged, you know. And if you
want to employ some of these solutions in the books,
get a copy of the book, make time to read it. It
won't take you that long. Let's let's you know, one
hundred and fifty pages and then follow some of the
advice in the book. Hey what about that idea? How
crazy is that? Actually actually figure out something you can
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do to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Because and here's the other thing, the word extremist or
radical or rhino or anything like that does not appear
in the book at all. This was written in a
way for anyone to be able to read it, and
it doesn't have a quote unquote political at you know,
like a slant, so to speak. The solutions and the
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issues they speak for themselves. I allow the solutions to
be limited government based. Of course they're radically limited government based,
but they are common sense solutions, so they don't really
kind of say like, oh, it's right leaning or you know,
or extreme or this like, none of that is in
(49:16):
the book on purpose. I wrote the book purposely in
that fashion so that any liberal or moderate or independent
or conservative or whatever could read this book. As long
as you love America, you will agree and understand this book.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I agree with that one hundred percent. And we'll take
the interview today and make some little video reels out
of it and put those out there and then encourage
people to buy the book and listen to the entire interviews.
So we'll do what we can to help.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. God bless
you for doing that. I'm very very censored, as you
can tell for the things that I say and covers,
so every bit helps.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, that we don't have our the up speech, that's
one of the things we have to get back. But
I never thought i'd be in America where you could
say something like, well, I didn't either I disagree with this,
or I disagree with that, or I support this presidential candidate.
And next thing you know, you're you're canceled because it's
apparently misinformation to give your point of view. I've kept
(50:19):
you longer than I was supposed to. My my couple.
Apologies and great having you on the show. Come back
whenever you want. We'd love to have you.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
You got it, anytime, any topic.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Okay, Thanks, have a good day, all right, God bless,
God bless You've.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Been listening to The Tea Party Power Hour with Mark Gula.
You
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised. Welcome to the Tea Party
Power Hour. I am your host, Mark Gallar. My special
guest today is mister Josh Bernstein. You know him from
(00:23):
Josh Bernstein Uncensored. He is the author of a brand
new book called Preserving Liberty, Bold and Brave Solutions to
Save America and create Permanent Freedom. Josh, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's great to be on the program with you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, I tell you what. You've got a great podcast,
a lot of great guests, and we're happy to have
you here today to give us your personal take as
the subject of an interview instead of the host. And
you mentioned to me before we begin that this is
your first book ever.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It is. Yeah, it's actually the first book I've ever done.
It's an interesting story. I actually wrote something called The
Great Squanderer about ten plus years ago, and of course
at the time, it was about Barack Obama squandering his
presidency as the first black president and using race relations
and tensions and all that to kind of do what
(01:17):
he did. And obviously he didn't heal the country. He
kind of squandered his presidency, and so I kind of
wrote this thing. And then I actually went to Turning Point.
And I was at Turning Point and I noticed that
there was a bunch of booths set up and I
saw this one booth with the publishing company, and I
walked up to the booth and they had books out,
(01:37):
and I said, oh, doctor Ben Carson, he's been on
my show. And doctor Robert Malone, I've interviewed that person.
And doctor Pierre Corey, I've interviewed that person. So finally
the girl says, who are you? And I said, I
said who I was and what I've done, and she goes, oh,
have you ever written a book? And I said, no,
I haven't. I said I wrote something about ten years
ago and I didn't know what to do with it,
and I just kind of let it sit for a while.
(01:58):
And she's like, oh, well, you should update it and
send it in and see if you can get it published.
And so I thought to myself, you know what, I've
been sitting on this thing for a while, Let's give
that a shot. So I got home and I kind
of updated it to be twenty twenty four's message, of course,
and it was about fifteen pages long, and I was
getting ready to submit it, and then all of a sudden,
(02:19):
Aj Rice from Publuce PR sent out a PR statement
that he sends out for different types of guests to
have on the show and things like that, and one
of them was Tony Lyons. And Tony is the head
publisher at Skyhorse Publishing. And I said to myself, I
grabbed the business card from the girl, Rachel, and I said,
wait a minute, isn't this the same company? And sure
(02:42):
enough it was, yes, correct, And so I had her
card in my hand and so I called AJ and
I was like, AJ, I need Tony on right away.
And so my goal was to interview Tony to talk
about RFK Junior and to talk about RFK Junior's book
and things like that. And we had a wonderful conversation,
and he kind of threw a wrench in things because
(03:04):
he asked me if I would be interested in interviewing
his guests, his writers, his authors on my show, and
I said, sure, I'd be happy to do that. And
then in the process of that, I also said, hey,
I wrote this, I talked to Rachel and this and that,
and He's like, oh no, problem, send it directly to me.
So this was in January. This was late December, actually
in January, and nothing really happened until about March, and
(03:27):
then I got the okay to write Preserving Liberty. And
it's been an amazing experience, you know, when you get
a chance to write a book. But it's interesting that
once you get the green light, you're like, Okay, now
I got to write a book. So I went through
and I went through a lot of different things that
I've written in the past, and you know, older shows
(03:49):
and investigations that I've done and conducted myself. Because again
I've been at this for well over twelve years, and
I just kind of put it together and I said,
you know, let's think of a theme here. What am
I good at. Well, I'm good at solving problems. I'm
good at presenting an issue and a problem and then
coming up with a viable solution that is liberty based
(04:10):
and less government. And so I decided to do ten
chapters that kind of fit that model, if you will,
And that's the result of the book.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Great story and by the way, Skyhorse, Regnery, Rachel Marble
great people to work with.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, they're all amazing and AJ Rice as well.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He'll be my guest this coming Monday or Tuesday, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So. Yes, he's got a new book too.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, he gave us a sneak peek several months ago.
He came on the show and gave me an advanced
copy and it was just a great interview. And so
now that the book is actually coming out, I thought, Okay,
we've got to have AJ back on the show. And yes,
I'm on that mailing list too. And AJ is doing
a lot to help people spread truth, spread ammunition for
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the people the office. Water Cooper who always has this
more't Alecki liberal who's going to come up and say, yeah,
you know Trump's Trump's going to eliminate democracy in our country.
He's an existential threat to democracy and freedom in America.
You know they AJ is one of those people, just
like Tony Lyons is one of those people who is
helping people get the truth out.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, I've known
Aj for well over ten years. He's a patriot, he's
a good close friend of mine. He's an incredible human being.
Tony is amazing. Tony gave me, you know, an opportunity
of the lifetime to be able to write this book,
and I'm just so humbled and appreciative and grateful to
both of them.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, like I said, great people, and we're fortunate to
have great people out there. This morning, I just interviewed
Catherine engelbricked again from True to Vote. I mean people
who are dedicating their lives to getting the truth out there,
even though it means taking a lot of flak. But
like they say, you catch more flak when you're over
the target. So hey, let's let's dive into the book.
The book is called Preserving Liberty, Old and Brave Solutions
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to Save America and create Permanent Freedom. And looking at
some of the advanced reviews for the book, one of
the things that said that caught my eye was that
the great thing about Josh Bernstein is he doesn't just
point out problems. He offers up solutions. And I have
to say, being you know, about ninety percent through with
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the book, that that is the case. And there's there
are too many people, you know what they say, if
you point something out you don't have a solution, you're
just whining. And you're not a whiner, You're you're actually
you're actually offering up proposals. So with that in mind,
let's dive in. I'm gonna on this first one. I'm
actually going to challenge you a little bit because you
said you kept saying that through the book that the
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people have the power, and I got to tell you,
I don't feel like that's always true. As one of
the people. You know, it's a humble little podcast guy.
I think that there are so many instances of people
having their power taken away from them, you know, the
Jason prisoners for example, Donald Trump. I mean, you have
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a situation where there's cancel culture. I remember an NFL
football player saying he supported Donald Trump and the next
days bank said, come get your money. We don't want
your business. You know, the irs going after conservative groups
in terms of whether or not they can have their
nonprofit profit status, you know. I mean, it's just it
just goes on and on. I mean, you could be
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a small mom and pop business and you know, if
you're selling American flags or something like that, they may
look at you and say that's another Trump supporter, and
then in the middle of the night you lose your
ability to process credit cards. So, I mean, there are
a lot of people they're not playing fair. I honestly
think they're breaking the law. But it can lead and
I'd like to get your thought on this, it can
lead to people feeling powerless. So how do we get
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that power back?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, I think the number one thing that we have
to understand is that as a collective, as the people
of this country, we have the power if we know
how to use it and if we recognize it. And
so when you have a illegitimate and I'll use those words,
an illegitimate governor as we do in Arizona, or if
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you have you know, many senators and Congressmen that were
not truly elected, they were selected by you know, fraud. Okay,
I'll say that, no problem. How do you get around
these people that make the laws. Well, there's really only
one way to do it, and that is to do
ballot initiatives and to be active to get signature requirements,
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things like that, and bypass unruly, unethical and uncooperative members
of either Congress and or governors, secretaries of states offices,
whatever it is that is impeding the flow of freedom
and liberty and prosperity for the country. You have to
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be able to think outside the box and what my
book aims to do is to teach those people exactly
how to use that power that they may not know
that they have. And a lot of that, again, like
I said, is to get the ideas in front of
the voters and bypass Congress and bypass governors and things
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like that. Is it impossible, No, it's not impossible. Is
it difficult? It can be. You know, you're going to
run into obstacles. There are going to be people that
are going to challenge signatures and things like that. But
when you make things too big to rig, if you will,
using Trump's words, then you have an option and an
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opportunity to change things. And obviously remember that change all
starts at the local level. It's not necessarily at the
at the federal level. It's at the local level. So
if you can change what's happening in your immediate area,
you can then expound on that change and move to
state representatives and you know, state senators and put pressure
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campaigns on them to do certain things. And then if
they won't listen, then you do ballot initiatives. You know,
you start you start petitions and things like that, You
start recall petitions, you know, you know, there's a group
out here that wanted to recall Katie Hobbes and I
was part of that. And I think what happened is
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what happened in California. Too many hands in the pot,
so to speak, and you know, then the infighting starts
and nothing gets done. So discipline is also another factor
in creating permanent change.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, you have to stick to it. I mean, yeah,
you can't give up because this has been a prolonged war,
prolonged silent war. A lot of people and I mentioned
this in an earlier show. Today, a lot of people
call me and say, Mark, how did we get here?
It's just like, how did they change things overnight? Well,
they didn't change things overnight. They've been working at taking
over news and media, entertainment, media, and academia for one
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hundred years, you know, and they were patient. They were
patient about it. And now as if we've been sleeping
the whole time, conservatives are waking up and going damn.
It seems like they have all the judges, they are
all the TV shows, all this, you know, the sports
where everybody's woke. You know, how did this happen so quickly?
Like they said it didn't. But the thing is because
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it didn't happen overnight, it's not going to be fixed
overnight either. I think you pointed that out in the book.
So if I am sitting in Tupelo, Mississippi, right now,
and I'm listening to the show, and someone is sitting
there saying, you know, Josh is right, I need to
be motivated. I need to get involved. I shouldn't be
one of those people that just screams at the television
set and gets mad. I should somehow sublimate that anger
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into positive action. What are some of the things you
mentioned a few of them, But what would you tell
somebody right now? I mean, at the very least make
a campaign contribution, or what would your advice be.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, I mean obviously campaign contributions are good, but it's
not just about voting. You know, voting is not enough.
People need to understand that your vote isn't just enough.
What you need to do is once you vote, you
have to become civically active. And so I would tell
people right now three things. Number One, there's an organization
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and it's called Stop Bogus Ballots dot com. Stop Bogus
Ballots dot com. And this is Jay Valentine's group. They've
been working on something for over three years. The technology
is so advanced that they can check a ballot before
it's counted or before it even comes in, and they
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You should see the work they've been doing in Wisconsin.
It's unbelievable the amount of work that they've done. So
I would definitely tell people to go there to donate
to that cause and also to sign up in your
state so that you can become an active person that
fights against these fake mail in ballots. That would be
one thing. Another thing I would tell you to do
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is I would tell people wherever you live to go
to a search and put in drop boxes near me.
It doesn't matter where you are, and you'll get a
location map of where these drop boxes are. And I
would tell you to take five or six or seven
of your friends and go and work in teams because
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the drop boxes are vulnerable, especially after eight pm and
up to six am. So I would make teams going
in and watching these drop boxes, especially in you know,
in the Swing States and things like that. The other
thing is is Charlie Kirk and turning point action. I
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mean something that's never been done before, where we have
subcontracted out to get out the vote operation for a
major party, and in this case it seems as though
at least we're hoping that it's working. You know, you
have this TP action, it's called tpaction dot com forward
slash Commit one hundred, So it's tpaction dot Com forward
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slash Commit one hundred. Even if you don't live in
a swing state. They will pay for your accommodations to
come in and register new voters. And remember early voting unfortunately,
which there was no such thing as early voting, but
early voting starts this month and even last month and
into October, so we need more and more people. The
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other thing is hunt the Vote dot org. Hunt the
Vote dot org. This is where we can get registered Hunters.
Less than thirty percent of Hunters are actually registered to vote,
which is insane to think because of the threats against
the Second Amendment. I mean, what is wrong with these people?
Makes no sense to me. But you can go to
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hunt the Vote dot org and you can sign up there.
I believe ted Nugen's organization is also behind that organization.
We've got to get these low propensity voters, these Hunters
out there in Pennsylvania and Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia and
Arizona and New Hampshire and all that. We got to
get them registered to vote. And we've got to get
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them voting because if we had hunters, I mean there's
three hundred there was three hundred thousand hunters in Pennsylvania
alone that were not even registered to vote. I mean,
could you just imagine if you've got the majority of
those people registered and now voting. The other thing is
we need more men voting because women vote more than men.
And it's amazing to think, you know, it is true. Yeah,
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they vote more than men. And it makes sense if
you think about it. We've had the right to vote,
you know, the whole time. Right now, all of a sudden,
the women are like, oh, we have the right to vote,
and you know they don't take it for granted as
men do. I'll get it next time the game's on today.
That's not going to work, you know, that's not going
to save this country. So those are three suggestions that
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I would make almost immediately, And again I have literally
nothing to do with any of those groups at all,
but I just want to see this country be saved.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, I think a lot of us do, and what
you're saying about certain segments of voters and not making
any sense. I'm Catholic. I know people that have anti
abortion bumper stickers from one end of the RESUV to
the other. But you ask them, hey, if you decide
you're going to vote for kind of jokingly, and they go, well,
you know this was back during the you know, the
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Obama McCain race. Well you know, I'm still thinking it over.
I just don't know. I don't know what I want
to do. It's so hard to make a decision. I'm
sitting there going you've got anti abortion bumper stickers from
one end of your car or the other, and you
can't make a decision on something like that, you know,
I mean, I just don't understand that. I don't understand.
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I'm Catholic. I can say this. If somebody's a problem
with it, right and me call me. I don't understand
why any Catholic would vote Democrat. It makes zero sense.
I don't understand why Jewish people vote Democrat. I don't
quite get it, and I certainly don't understand. I certainly
don't understand people who are how can I put this?
You know they own guns, they have guns in their house,
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you know, like Kamala Harris, you come in to my house,
I'm gonna shoot you. And yet they vote for the
Democrat Party. And I had and I didn't argue with
her because I had her on just to get her story.
But it was Hunter Biden's baby, mama London roberts On,
and oh yeah, her family runs a gun business, okay,
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And she said abortion a boarding Hunter's baby was absolutely
out of the question. It wasn't something she was going
to do. So she wasn't big an abortion. She's for
the Second Amendment, but her own family tells her she's
a liberal. So why would somebody who's for the Second
Amendment against abortion, you know, vote for the Democrat Party.
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What other pressing issue out there is overriding those two?
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well, I've said this a lot, and I've gotten a
lot of hate mail for it. There's look, there's the
there's the Catholic right, and there's the Catholic left, and
obviously the Catholic left or the fake Catholics. These are
the ones that believe in abortion on demand and all
these other you know, liberal policies and things like that.
You got a problem with the pope. I'll say, at
point blank, we do. We have a major problem with
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the pope. He's a communist. And so, you know, you
have these factions within, you know, these different chasms of
the church. And as far as Jews are concerned, which
I am one proud you know, Jewish both parents. A
lot of times American Jews are actually liberals first and
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Jews second. And let me tell you, the Jewish lobby
does not like when Bernstein says that one but it's
absolutely true. It is absolutely true. And I'll explain it.
One of the reasons Jews vote liberal is because of
Jewish guilt. Because as Jews, we are the chosen people,
and as the chosen people, we are typically not always,
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but typically more well off in society. We're in the
upper echelon of society. You know, we're more wealthy, We're
you know, we're more into academia and doctors and lawyers
and architects and all those things. And so there's an
internal guilt that a lot of Jews, American Jews feel
because they're the chosen people and that they're well off.
And so what do they do. They try to bring
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up the little guy they try to bring up, you know,
the disenfranchise, they try to bring up the minority communities.
But what they don't understand and realize is that it's
those people that they're trying to support to bring them
up to their level, are the most anti Semitic. So
it ends up becoming a suicide vote. And I've said
that for years, and I've been attacked by the Jewish lobby.
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I've been attacked by so many different Jewish organizations, and
I wear every single one of them proudly, you know,
as a medal on my chest, because I have as
my duty to wake up Jewish voters to realize that
if the you know what ever hit the fan, who
do you think would protect the Jews. It'd be the
Evangelical right, and it would be the Christians, you know,
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the ones that go and fight in our wars. It
wouldn't be the liberal Jews. And so I've always exposed that,
and I've always pushed to have more and more Jewish
voters become you know, conservative voters and vote for America
First policies and principles.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And what kind of pushback do you get.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh, I've been threatened, I've you know, you can't ever
write for our you know, publication. You know this, and
now you're a disgrace to your own people, you know,
all the typical stuff. You know. I'm the type of
guy that goes after you know, Chuck Schumer, George Soros,
you know, Jerry Nadler, all these people. You know. I
go after them viciously because as far as I'm concerned,
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I have nothing but disdain for all of them because
they're communists.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
We need to take a quick little break to do
some business with America, and when we get back, we'll
be visiting more with Josh Bernstein, author of Preserving Liberty.
(21:18):
And we are back with Josh Bernstein, the author of
Preserving Liberty, Bold and brave solutions to save America and
create permanent freedom. Okay, let's let's get back into the book.
Uh how can I put this? I I think everything
in the book you're saying is a great suggestion, But
I still wonder what we do with that half of
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America that's drank the liberal liberal kool aid. And you
know when I when I when I discussed that, I
mean I have pressed liberals and they will not say
it's wrong about drag queens grooming little boys in kindergarten classrooms,
or teaching kids they can change their gender by cutting
off bottom parts, and the schools can set up transgender
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medical appointments for kids, you know, without telling the parents,
you know. And I also, you know, I don't believe
in killing unborn children. And you look at these people
and they seem normal and they seem nice. But they're
not going to criticize their party or they're going to say, well,
I don't agree with everything the Democrat Party does, but
I'm not a one issue voter. And it's like, well,
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what is your issue? I hate Donald Trump? So anyway,
what is the solution? And your book offers up a
lot of solutions, but what are the or what is
the solution for all these liberal zombies who have somehow
been persuaded that up is down and down is up,
and east is west and west is east and you know,
it's it's fine. You got the w e F having
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speeches about how we need to normalize and decriminalize pedophilia.
I mean, these people lost their damn minds. What do
we do with these people?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly. I know years ago these people that
would have said that they know or confused about this
or that and their gender. Guess what, we locked them
up in insane asylums and we fed them full of
you know, thorazine, and they were never heard from or
seen from again. Perhaps maybe we need to go back
to that and show that they are mentally ill for
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having these thoughts. I'm obviously one of the more censored
people in this country, which is why I have no
problem saying the things that I'm saying to you right now.
I think that it is a mental issue and a
mental disorder, and it needs to be treated as such.
We should not be celebrating it. We should not be
giving it colors and rainbows and all this other stuff.
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But that's a story for another day. So I think
education is key. You know, I've said this many many times.
You know that if you can educate people more and more,
then they're going to start to understand and wake up.
You know. You never hear this, Oh, I used to
be a conservative Republican and now I'm a flaming Democrat,
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liberal extremist. You never hear that, right, You always hear
it's the opposite way. I used to be a liberal.
I used to believe in this and this and this.
But then I woke up. I found out what was
really happening. I found out the media, you know, the
prostitutes in the media were lying to me and all that.
And now I'm a conservative and now I get it.
Now I understand it. And what ends up happening is
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when those people do finally wake up, then they're so
angry that they were lied to and deceived for so
long that they become really great activists in trying to
change the hearts and minds of others. So I think
that that's a big part of it. That's what I've
done with my show for many years. I kind of
call myself a conservative vampire, where I like to turn people,
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you know, to the right and to liberty and prosperity
and all that. And that's what's key. I think education
is key, and being brave enough to step up in
front of a group of people that you don't agree
with and that don't agree with you and their hearts
and minds with facts and you know, and taking the
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emotion out of the equation and challenging them. Why is
it that you feel that way? What made you come
to that decision? Why don't you like President Trump? What
has he done to you personally? Accept made your life
incredibly better for four straight years. Turn it around on them,
is what I would say.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and I've done that, and I've had people you
press them against the wall and you say no, seriously,
I am open to having my mind changed. If there's
something about President Trump that's bad for America, tell me,
especially with regard to policy, what policies of his made
your life worse? And man, they just get real quiet
and go, well, you know, it's not so much about policy.
(25:44):
I just think Trump's kind of a jerk. And well,
you know Biden's kind of a jerk too, But you
voted on him. Well, I didn't know a lot of
the things about Biden when I voted for Biden. I
didn't realize some of the stuff about him and his
family and what they would do. Oh okay, so you're
going to vote for Trump this time? No, No, I
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don't like Trump. It takes so much to get through
to them. Now, let's talk about this, because I think
this is very the thing about twenty nine percent of
people identifying as preppers in the United States, that's one
hell of a surrogate marker for people thinking the you
know what is about to hit the fans. So talk
to me about that nine percent. And that's an overall number.
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That's not just conservatives, that's everybody, right, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, Yeah, that is a high number. It is a
high number, and quite frankly, I wish it was higher,
if you want to know the truth, I wish it
was sixty seventy eighty percent because if it was, then
these people would not be able to get away with
some of the things that they're doing. So I think
that being prepared is important. You know. One of the
things that has happened recently with RFK Junior kind of
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joining forces with President Trump is they've put a you know,
a target if you will, on things that normally conservatives
and Republicans don't really talk about. They don't talk about
crunchy food, they don't talk about seed oils, they don't
talk about childhood obesity. These are just not the issues
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that conservatives typically talk about. So having someone like RFK Jr.
Into the mix is now opening and expanding that conversation,
which I think is a good thing. I don't think
that's a bad thing at all, and especially if it expands.
You know, the map so to speak, and we bring
in more females. Look, I've said this to the Trump campaign.
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You have two new weapons. Okay. Those weapons are RFK
Jor and Tulsa Gabbard. And they're very different from the
majority of Make America Great Again in America firsters and
things like that. Not that they're not, but they're just different.
So they ought to have their own set of things
that they're allowed to go out and talk about, whether
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it be healthy foods, a healthy water supply, you know,
seed oils, whatever it may be. Give them that opportunity
to go out there and do their own rallies and
talk about just those things. Stay in your lanes, but
go out there and talk about what you're experts at
and bring that extra three and a half to four
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percent of female voters back over to President Trump before
the election, because, like I said before, there's a lot
of these single issue voters, these women voters that for
whatever reason, you know, killing their babies on the day
they're born is more important than inflation, gas prices, all
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the other different things that we're obviously suffering from, potential
nuclear war, I mean, all of it. And so it's
like they feel as though something's being taken from them,
and that's obviously not the case. And I've actually told
the Trump campaign don't run from this issue. Don't run
from the abortion issue. Embrace it head on, run straight
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into it like a wall. It's very easy to do.
Take thirty seconds of the Center for Medical Progress ad
that shows them talking about ripping off arms and legs
and limbs and selling them. Make a thirty second attack
ad and put it in the swing states and watch
what happens. But you know what, a lot of these
people are not brave enough to do these things, right,
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That's the sad part.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, they have a pretty strong count cancel culture, and
I'm not surprised that some people are afraid because they
have indeed ruined people's lives. It's I had a guy
on the other day that was a senator from I
want to say Indiana state senator, and because he had
some tie to Trump, they came after him with, oh,
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you committed you know, some sort of voter crime or
some sort of election crime. And he was when they
finally told him what it was all about. They dropped
two hundred and forty thousand pages of discovery on him
right before the trial I mean, it's the kind of
thing they do to people. This guy ended up spending
(30:05):
four months in jail. But I'm not saying you're wrong. Yes,
we need to be brave. I mean, I think it's
so funny that Washington, you know, paddle or rode across
the Delaware and what happened. We had a freedom in
this country ultimately because of that a lot of other
things he did. But there are people in this country
(30:29):
right now, Josh, that won't give up their bud light.
They still shop at Target. They've got everything I need.
They won't even they won't even stop shopping at Target
or stop shopping with bud Light. And there are so
many other, you know, examples we could give. Are you
doing okay on time? We've gone a little bit over.
I had one more question at least one day.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, No, we're good, We're fine.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We're fine, Okay. Good Now. In the book, you point
out that in a Heartland res Musing poll that one
out of five voters surveyed admitted that they committed voter
fraud in twenty twenty. Yet we have Democrats who say, well,
there might have been a little voter fraud, but there
certainly wasn't enough to tip the election, or some of
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them would just say there's been no proof given that
there was any voter fraud whatsoever based on this poll
and other things that you know about. What would you
say to those Democrats who say there was no voter
fraud in twenty twenty, Well.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I would say, number one, that they've admitted to a crime.
And as I believe, I actually say that in the book.
I said, if the FBI wasn't busy, you know, trying
to grab grandmothers with knitting needles, they would actually do
their job for once, and they'd go after the people
that have emitted in a survey that they actually committed
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voter fraud by mail. It is the worst form of
voter fraud that there can be, which is why we
need to watch the draw boxes. Excuse me, and I
don't care what the Department of Justice says, I don't
care what any legal AFAE already says. We need to
watch these drop boxes because the bottom line is, that
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is how the fraud is happening. That's how the fraud
happened in the past. And you know, people can even
contact their local police and say, hey, what is it?
Specifically or the sheriff's office that you're planning on doing
to watch the drop boxes so that we don't have
a repeat of two thousand mules like we did in
twenty twenty. I would encourage people to call the non
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emergency line of your local police department and asking that question.
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking that question
and seeing if they're actually serious about stopping the voter fraud.
That's the thing. We have to be brave, Like I said,
bold and brave solutions to save America and create permanent freedom.
My book is designed to destroy Washington. I literally wrote it.
(32:51):
As a matter of fact. Chapter four is dismantling Washington.
I can't say it any more clearer than that. I
talked about how we have to get rid of the
administrative state. I talk about how these people are useless
eaters as far as I'm concerned, They're just useless employees.
These eight thousand ses employees out there, all of them
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should be digging in a dumpster for a peach pit
rather than destroying the next administration coming in. And that's
why I talked about that as well in the book. Look,
I'll give you a quick you know, statistic how many
registered lobbyists? You said you read most of it, So
how many registered lobbyists are in Washington, d C. Which
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remember Washington, d C Is only sixty eight point five
square miles?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Was it sixty thousand? I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Twelve thousand, five hundred registered lobbyists in a sixty eight
point five square mile area, that is like one hundred
and eighty yeah, plus.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think I remember when I was a kid, there
was a cartoon in the paper and it had a
rather average looking mom and an average looking kid, and
there was a politician had a button on it said politician,
And there was this beautiful hot si tatsy lobbyist. It
(34:15):
just said she, you know, busty and everything else, and
had a big button on it said lobbyist. And the
mother is telling the child, of course daddy still loves us.
Why you know the couple was, I mean, the wife
and the son were the American people, and the wife
was telling the son, of course daddy still loves us.
Why would you ask? And you know, the dad's drilling
(34:36):
all over. This looks like a stripper or something. And
that's kind of what a lot of us think, is
that they are there to pad their own pockets. They
don't care about us. And you know, we hear about
crazy things all the time. You know, this is off
the subject. But I was watching a show. I'm in Texas.
I was watching a show coming out of Houston about
a group called the Chicanos Squad and they were brought
(34:59):
in too so all crimes that the other cops couldn't
solve because they didn't speak Spanish. And they went to
this one bar following up on an old cold case.
That was their job to go out and get rid
of all these cold cases on the books. And they
went into a bar and they asked this woman, you know,
did you were you here when the murder happened two
years ago? And she was like, yeah, well, could you
(35:22):
give us any information about the shooter. I've already done that.
I gave it to the police. He still comes in
all the time. I called him. One time, I said
he's here now they didn't send anybody, and so he said, well,
the next time he comes in, call us. And so
the next time that guy came in, the Chicano Squad
went in and arrested him. But when they this woman
called the police and said the shooter is here now
(35:46):
and the Houston Police Department didn't even respond. So I feel,
you know, that's one low level example, but most of
us just kind of feel that government is not responsive.
They don't give a damn about the average individual. You know,
it's all about keeping the powers that be over them,
it's all about retaining power. But there are very very
(36:08):
few politicians, and I see you've had some of them,
you know, on your show. I saw, you know, Curie
like MTG. But I just feel like I'm an abandoned child,
you know, I don't know how to get past that.
It's just like they don't care. You're going to send
off a letter and they're not going to respond back.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, look, I think that you know, one of the
ways that you can get their attention, and I do
mean through voting or anything like that, is to have
a groundswell of support against their opponent, you know, challenge them,
primary them, things like that. That's happened in the past,
and it's worked in the past, and there's also been
(36:51):
times where it didn't work in the past. But if
it didn't work in the past, it's because we didn't
have enough people or we didn't have enough of a
good enough care it shall we say to challenge that person.
So I think, you know, like I said, a lot
of it has to do with us in mass numbers.
We the people have the power. We just don't know
(37:12):
that we have the power, and we don't know how
to use the power. And so, like I said, I
wrote this book to be a textbook. This is the
type of book that my number one goal for the
reader was to have numerous audible gasps. I want you
to go, does that say what it really said? And
then grab your glasses and read it closer and go,
(37:33):
oh my god, that's exactly what it does say. This
is a book that you're going to read with a
yellow highlighter in your hand, the entire book, because you're
going to be highlighting so many things that you never
have heard before and that you've learned on the fly,
and you're going to want to retain and remember some
of that stuff. But like I said, ultimately it's to
(37:53):
create an army. This book is to create an army
of activists. That's how I wrote it, and and that's
why I wrote it because it's not about one person.
It's not about President Trump, It's not about me or
you it's about all of us on the same page
fighting for the same causes. And if we can do that,
it doesn't matter what the government says or does, we
(38:16):
will be successful. But it takes a large, large army
to be able to.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Do it, it does you know. I always wished we
had something called the conservative consumer army. And that's whenever
a company like let's say, who was it Camping World
comes out and says, if you're if you're a Trump supporter,
I really don't want you shopping here. Well, what if
two million people called camper World the Camping World the
(38:45):
next day and said, I've bought products from you in
the past, I'm never going to buy a product from
you again. Your business is finished, you know. And then
you start going to the money supply of Camper World
the banks and go, you know what, you're loaning to
a Camping World. I don't think I like that. You know,
You've got two million people ringing the phones off the
(39:06):
wall saying, you know what, as long as you financially
support Camping World, I don't think I'm going to do
any business with your bank. And it doesn't matter if
it's true, it doesn't matter if you've ever done business
with their bank. The bottom line is is they need
to know they've rattled some cages, They've ticked a lot
of people off. And if every time that happened, like
if I like it, Target man, every time I drive by,
(39:27):
Target the parking lot's full. Why I live in a
conservative Red county. Why is that parking full? You know,
I have a friend that can't stop drinking, but like,
why not?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
One of those things that I talk about in the
book in the China section, the chapter is called the
China Syndrome, and I actually talk about how if Americans,
and that means all of us, if we're going to
continue this bad behavior to buy Chinese made products and
goods and services, then we're going to have to force
(40:01):
companies to no longer be able to sell them at
affordable prices. And I call it the rain in the
China Competitive Act is what I call it in the book.
And I want Chinese made products to have a fifty
to one hundred percent tariff on them. I want them
to be more expensive than products made in any other country.
(40:24):
Of course America would be number one, but any other
country and number two. I want them labeled. I want
them shamed in the corner that says these are Chinese
made products and have them separate from the rest of
everything else in the store. Look, I've gone after China
so much. They have attacked me, my website, four thousand
computers all at once in one time. And I have
(40:47):
no doubt when this book comes out, they're going to
come after me again because I go after China in
a major, major way in this book. But the bottom
line is we have to do that. We absolutely have
to do. That is sold as convenience and cheap labor
is the worst of it all. For instance, Timu. Timu
(41:07):
is the parent companies called Pindawdao. Pindowdao is PDD Holdings, Inc.
That's what it's known for in America. But Timu is
undercutting American businesses by seventy five eighty percent in overall pricing.
So you can get a Timu ad and you can
buy something on Timu for seventy percent less than you
(41:31):
can buy it anywhere else. As a matter of fact,
they're taking over seventeen percent of the US market share already.
So to these moms and pops out there, if you
see these ads for Timu and you go out and
you buy anything online using Timu, you are automatically supporting
slave labor because those products are made by people in
(41:53):
internment camps in the Xijiang Province of northwest China. That's
why they can undercut America businesses and sell things for
seventy to seventy five percent less because they're not paying
any labor costs. So folks out there stop using TMU. Okay,
I could probably get killed for saying something like that publicly,
but you know what, you have to be crazy brave
(42:15):
in order to make change in this world. And so
I go after China and I expose them, and the
bottom line is we're going to have to basically force
Americans to stop buying Chinese made products by making the
products that they're used to buying at Walmart and Target
and elsewhere much less affordable.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Well, and another very important area, and we found out
about this during the pandemic, was you know that so
much of our pharmaceutical world comes from China. A lot
of the precursor products that are used to make the
pharmaceutical pills and drugs come from China. And we're in
a situation and we found that out during the pandemic,
where if China wanted to, they could just turn off
(42:59):
the switch and the middle the night and say, oh, no,
you're not getting any more of these materials substances to
make drugs anymore. You're not You're not going to get
any We're cutting you off, and suddenly, all of a sudden,
we could have a pandemic in America and no drugs
to treat them with. It is absolutely stupid to rely
on an enemy nation to provide you the precursor materials
(43:21):
to a lot of the pharmaceuticals that are being put out,
And yet we do that. I I really don't understand.
I mean, we have American politicians who love shipping jobs overseas.
They love having companies come into our country and take
over large businesses, take over shipping areas. It just I
(43:44):
can't even talk them some ad and you know what
else do they do? Oh and they let they let
China buy farm land right in your American military basis. Gee,
what the hell could go wrong there?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
You know, I don't know exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, it's absolutely crazy, But your book helps figure You're
out that craziness. And I'll repeat the praise that you
received from another reviewer who said that the great thing
about your book is you don't just come up with problems.
You come up with solutions. And I'm here to testify
that you do that very very well. So everyone has
to run out right now, Well, actually you can do
it from here. You don't mind if they bite it
(44:18):
through Amazon.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Do you? No? No, no, Amazon is the best for
the algorithms. I know here we are talking about, you know,
fighting against big, big corporations and all that. But you
know the bottom line is that they have the best
algorithms and therefore they have you know, the best promotion.
So the more people that purchase the book and pre
order the book, the more likely that other independent book
(44:42):
distributors will see that action and start to kind of
look at it and say, oh wow, there's a lot
of there's a lot of you know, energy on this,
there's a lot of you know, publicity on this, there's
a lot of marketing on this, and they'll start buying
the book as well. But yeah, look, the bottom line
is you can go to my website Jbushow dot com
and you can get it there. It's actually would bring
(45:03):
you to the same spot. So I would just tell people, yeah,
just go to Amazon and pre order the book, and
you know, it's a book that, like I said, you're
going to want to have a yellow highlighter in your
hand and it would be a great Christmas Christmas gift
for the upcoming holiday season and things like that. So yeah,
(45:23):
I'm really proud of it. It's a totally different book.
There are ten legislative solutions and an additional thirty other
solutions inside the book. You can attest to that because
you read through it. I had Congressman Paul Gosar do
the forward to it, knowing that I have a member
of Congress that can introduce some of the things in
(45:43):
the book as legislation in the next Congress. It's got
two New York Times bestselling authors that have endorsed the book,
Alan Dershowitz and Roger Stone, and there's also a whole
bunch of other people that have endorsed the book as well.
So I'm really proud of it, and I would really
appreciate it if folks would grab the book and read
(46:04):
it and see for yourselves.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Absolutely. The book is called Preserving Liberty, Bold and Brave
Solutions to save America and create create permanent freedom. I
get it for a conservative friend for Christmas. Get it
for a liberal friend for Christmas. Just say, hey, you
know this doesn't really hit the social issues very hard.
This is hard policy here. Read this and tell me
what you think about it. Challenge them read me, read
(46:27):
it and tell me what you think is wrong with it.
But yeah, liberals need to read this book and conservatives
need to read it too, because I have people that
will come to me and say, oh, hey, Mark, I've
got a liberal i'm arguing with and he's telling me this,
this and this, and I just don't have time to
keep up with all the politics. But you do tell
me what I should say back to him. And if
you read a book like this, and I told you this,
(46:48):
I think before the show. I like to and I
read a lot of books, and I know you do too,
because it's part of what we do. But when I
read a book, I have this little unit I call
facts facts per page. And in terms of facts per page,
you are getting a whole lot of meat and no
(47:10):
fat whatsoever. This book is jam packed with facts. Not
a single page wastes your time in any way. There
is no filler. This book is the real. This book
is the real. Deal when it comes to solutions. So
if you're too busy to watch podcasts or watch you know,
Fox News or whatever, or read the daily paper, read
(47:32):
this book and it's going to catch you up over
many years. And I promise you you will not lose
any more arguments with a liberal. So anyway you've given
me more time.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
You'll get ten You'll get ten years. You'll get at
least ten years worth of knowledge in one hundred and
fifty seven pages.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's a shock when I saw that. I and again,
I don't want to be meant to anyone else who's
ever been on the show, but you know, I've seen
five hundred page books that could have been two hundred,
you know, and there's a lot of that out there.
And I will just say that this book is very
efficient and doesn't waste any of your time. And if
you're looking for a book like that, that'll catch you
(48:09):
up over the past ten years so you can stand
your ground when you're challenged, you know. And if you
want to employ some of these solutions in the books,
get a copy of the book, make time to read it. It
won't take you that long. Let's let's you know, one
hundred and fifty pages and then follow some of the
advice in the book. Hey what about that idea? How
crazy is that? Actually actually figure out something you can
(48:32):
do to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Because and here's the other thing, the word extremist or
radical or rhino or anything like that does not appear
in the book at all. This was written in a
way for anyone to be able to read it, and
it doesn't have a quote unquote political at you know,
like a slant, so to speak. The solutions and the
(48:55):
issues they speak for themselves. I allow the solutions to
be limited government based. Of course they're radically limited government based,
but they are common sense solutions, so they don't really
kind of say like, oh, it's right leaning or you know,
or extreme or this like, none of that is in
(49:16):
the book on purpose. I wrote the book purposely in
that fashion so that any liberal or moderate or independent
or conservative or whatever could read this book. As long
as you love America, you will agree and understand this book.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I agree with that one hundred percent. And we'll take
the interview today and make some little video reels out
of it and put those out there and then encourage
people to buy the book and listen to the entire interviews.
So we'll do what we can to help.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. God bless
you for doing that. I'm very very censored, as you
can tell for the things that I say and covers,
so every bit helps.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, that we don't have our the up speech, that's
one of the things we have to get back. But
I never thought i'd be in America where you could
say something like, well, I didn't either I disagree with this,
or I disagree with that, or I support this presidential candidate.
And next thing you know, you're you're canceled because it's
apparently misinformation to give your point of view. I've kept
(50:19):
you longer than I was supposed to. My my couple.
Apologies and great having you on the show. Come back
whenever you want. We'd love to have you.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
You got it, anytime, any topic.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Okay, Thanks, have a good day, all right, God bless,
God bless You've.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Been listening to The Tea Party Power Hour with Mark Gula.
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