September 21, 2024 • 15 mins
Ned Ryun: is the Founder and CEO of American Majority and Voter Gravity. The son of the former congressman, Olympian, and Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient Jim Ryun, Ned is also the author of Restoring Our Republic and The Adversaries: A Story of Boston and Bunker Hill. A frequent commentator on Fox News, Ryun currently resides in Western Loudoun County, VA, with his wife and four children.
American Leviathan: The Birth Of The Administrative State And Progressive Authoritarianism.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised. Welcome to the Tea Party
Power Hour. I am your host Mark Galler. Today, our
very special guest is Ned. Ryan. Ned is the founder
(00:24):
and CEO of American Majority in Voter Gravity, the son
of the former congressman and Olympian and Presidential Medal of
Freedom recipient Jim Ryan. Ned is also the author of
Restoring Our Republic and The Adversaries The Story of Boston
and Bunker Hill. He's a frequent commentator on Fox News,
(00:46):
and Ryan currently resides in Western is That Low down,
Loudown Louden, loudun County, Virginia with his wife and four children.
He's here today to talk to us about his book
The American Leviathon, The Birth of the Administrative State and
the Progressive and Progressive Authoritarianism. First of all, Ned, thanks
(01:09):
for being on the show. We greatly appreciate having you here.
Thank you. I have been one of those poor, deluded
souls who has thought for the sixty one years of
my life that I was living in a constitutional republic
and I would get in get in people's face. On
x and Facebook, who were not of the same political opinion,
(01:32):
and they'd be saying, no, no, no, no, we're democracy,
and I'd be saying, no, no, no, no, We're a
constitutional republic. And now I get to reading your book
and I find out that we're really in some kind
of elitist administrative state.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, we're neither, Mark, And one of the reasons I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
To write this book was to help bring a certain
amount of clarity to people about what's going on in DC.
Obviously Donald J. Trump showing up in January of twenty
seventeen and announcing I'm the duallyct A president of the
United States. I'm the one who decides a lot of
domestic policy, but certainly foreign policy. And he was treated
(02:11):
as a traitor to his country by this administrative state
and its allies in the Democrat Party establishment Republican Party.
I refused to call the media the corporate propagandis. And
that's what everything boils down.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
To, Mark, really quick is all.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Of the things that you were seeing that Donald Trump
is Hitler and a Nazi and an existential threat to democracy.
It's really about who decides and the clash of two
very different governing philosophies. And the reason I say that
is the progressive movement that started called twentieth early twentieth
century had kind of been building before that, but really
(02:46):
came into its own in the early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The whole point of the progressive movement was to destroy.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
The moral and political authority of the US Constitution, to
do away with our constitutional republic, specifically by terror apart
the machinery of the republic, which is the machinery.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Of the republic.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
When I say that markets the separation of powers, it's
the diffusion of power. And in the place of a republic,
the progressive status decided.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
They were going to put in place a.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Massive, sprawling bureaucracy called the administrative state I called the
American Leviathan, that they would separate out from any any
political accountability, and the so called educated elite, these unelected bureaucrats,
this managerial class, in progressive minds, should be doing the
(03:34):
governing and managing of this country. So when you see
what's going on in DC today, where you have these powerful,
unelected bureaucrats declaring either side, I'm the one who has
the real power. I'm the one who decides domestic inform policy. Well,
that was the whole point, the entire time with the.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Progressive I can tell you that I've had a couple
of people on this show who were the targets of
the Leviathan. Yeah. What one of them described to me
the incredible fight that takes place every four years if
a Republican administration comes in, their political appointees have their
(04:11):
security clearance has stripped, they have all kind of false
charges brought against them. It's not just Donald Trump. And
you know, it's a huge fight, and everybody's focusing on
will Trump's been well, there's been an attempt to assassinate
Trump twice. There's all the lawfair against Donald Trump. But
they really go after everybody who has any connection to
(04:31):
Donald Trump or any connection to the Republican Party. I
mean it is a I hate to use the term
bloodbath because of what happened recently, but it is.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I mean, you know, it's a cold political war.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And the reason that they are going so hard at
Donald Trump and his supporters is because we reject the premise.
So the what I mean by that is since Ronald Reagan,
most Republicans in DC in the White House.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
George H. W. Bush, George W.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Bush, their staff, their administration until Donald J. Trump did
not reject the premise. They accepted the premise that the
administrative state was perfectly acceptable, and even more so the
only real problem with the administrative state in their minds
was that they weren't running it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So then Donald Trump shows up and goes, I reject
the primisse.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That's why they are coming so hard at him, because
he rejects the premise that the administrative state should be
the ones governing this country. And they have decided, if
you get back into power. I think Donald Trump has
figured out a lot about what's been going on in
the last nine years. I think He's got a plan
in place to go day one. I'm going to start
devolving and breaking apart the administrative state, which just should
(05:42):
be clear for those listening, the administrative state primarily resides
in the Article two executive branch of our government.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
The head of that branch is the duly elected President
of the United States.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And if that elected president decides I Am going to
for four years, break apart, devolve and shrink this administer
a state can do a lot of damage in four years.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They know it.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He knows it, and that's what you're seeing play out
pure the way everything else. Mark, That's what this conflict
comes down to, this cold political war that we're seeing
take place right now.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Do you think Judge and Marshawan is going to try
to throw him in jail before the of the election
if he.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Will well, I will say that, well, if he wins,
I think Marshawn's not an idiot.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He's not a complete idiot.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I would say he's a corrupt, conflicted judge who should
never have been involved in this case because of his
daughter's behavior and the fact that the daughter has been
raising tens of millions off of this case. I do
not think Marshawn will be a complete and total idiot
try and jail him. Should and win Donald Trump wins
on November fifth, He's not that much of a fool.
But if Trump doesn't win on November fifth, I would
(06:44):
not be shocked at off he actually sends him to prison.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Wow, I wouldn't be I don't even know what to
say to that, because I think there are a lot
of people in America who would not take that very well.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, I will say this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They the reason that I think this conflict between the
two governing philosophies has accelerated so much is because one
they see a very real threat in Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
They see a very real threat in America first.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And they're getting deeply angry and frustrated that we, the
dirty little peasants in their minds, have not figured out
what's best for us, and we are going to deal
definitively with this threat in their minds so that nobody
else gets the genius idea in the future that they
should come after and destroy and dismantle the administrative state.
(07:34):
That's why things taking place right now, Mark.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, they are sending us a lot of messages the
same thing with January sixth. If you think that a
false election has taken place, or a questionable election, don't
you dare challenge it because.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's a destruction of the First Amendment. They don't care.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But see, here's the thing, Mark, Our government, as envisioned
by the founders was a rights based government.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, what I mean by that we hold these truths
to be self.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Evident all in our career, equal doubt by their creator,
with certain unhalable rights that among these are life, liberty,
pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights Governments are
instituted in a moment.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Governments do not give rights. Governments do not take away rights.
Governments are into secure rights.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Progressives do not believe that fundamentally, do not believe in
natural inherent rights. In fact, one of the guys I
write about in this book America Leviathan is John Burgess.
John Burgess was a Columbia law professor. He's also considered
the father of political science in this country. John Burgess
was vehemently opposed to the idea of a rights based
government because they thought it would lead to great inefficiency
(08:35):
if we had God forbid millions and tens of millions
of individuals making claims on their rights against the government
because they wanted efficiency and they thought the state was stalvation.
So bring it up to twenty twenty four. Yeah, you're
looking at them completely trampling the rights to free speech
of those on January sixth. But they're also again sending
(08:55):
a very clear signal do not question the official narrative,
or there will be consequences for you. I think January sixth,
the lawfair against Trump is meant to have a chilling
effect on those who will not accept the supremacy and
the legitimacy of the administrative state.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You reference in the book the four horsemen of the
Progressive Apocalypse. Could you share with my audience who those
four people are and what they did to get us
in this state?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So I tried to get it narrowed down. There are
a lot of different people that.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Were involved in really putting together the progressive movement and
administrative state and administrative law that bolstered the state. You know,
Frank good Now, I talk about a little bit in
John Burgess and some others, But the four horsemen of
the Progressive Apocalypse in my mind were Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Crowley,
Roberto Folette, Theodore Roosevelt, which I would make the point
mark three of those men that I just mentioned were Republicans.
(09:51):
People ask when did this uni party begin in Washington,
d C. Well, it began really in the early nineteen hundreds,
and I think became crystallized in the nineteen twelve presidential elections,
in which most of the men running in that presidential election,
Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson even tacked to a certain extent
(10:11):
Eugene Debs.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They all pretty.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Much said these are legitimate ideas with administrative state and
this massive bureaucracy. And so when people ask is progressive
something from the left, it is as deeply on American
and as deeply unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But let's not forget it's.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Democrats and Republicans who founded the progressive statist movement in
this country that, really, I would argue, Mark, have destroyed
our legacy as the freeborn American people with our God
given inherent rights and a rights based government, annihilated that
and instead put in these massive this massive administrative state
with all the departments and agencies that are unelected by
(10:50):
the American people.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And that's an important part mark to remember.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
When you do not have political accountability and people who
are doing the governing of this country, I would like
to ask, if very interesting question, what is the recourse
for the American people for their grievances to be addressed? Well,
the people doing mostly governing this country weren't elected by them.
There's no political accountability. Quite frankly, the American people are
an afterthought for most of those people quote unquote governing
(11:18):
this country inside the administrative state.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, you can't get them fired. It's almost impossible.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
This is why it is going to be if Donald win.
I'm going to say win. Donald Trump wins on the
number five, and he goes in and day day one declares,
I Am going to break apart for the administrative state.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Mark, you haven't seen anything yet.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
All the stuff that we have seen over the past
nine years is kind of a warm up act for
the cold political war that will take place when Donald J.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Trump declares won the administrative state.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It will be Katie Barbador's Hold onto your hats, because
they are going to fight tooth and nail against the
duly elected president who will be the head of the
executive branch and say you can't do this, when in
fact every right to do what he will do in
breaking apart the state and returning us back to a.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Proper constitutional republic. And I want to say this one
last thing, Mark.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Sure, people are going to be screaming on the left,
this is about revenge, This is about him settling scores.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No, it's not. It's about restoration.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You cannot have restoration of the proper constitutional republic without
there being consequences for terrible, egregious abuse of power and
a resetting of the proper constitutional order.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
This will not be revenge. It will not be settling scores.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It will be about the restoration of the republic and
restoring the rights of the American people.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The president Zanil had two attempts on his life. What
are your thoughts on this is at least just some
nuts who were revved up by all the attacks.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, Mark, I've got a couple thoughts. One, you know,
these corporate propagandas I call.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Them, stenographers of the state as.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Well in the book, they have created an environment over
most lives decade and Trumpus Hitler his followers are Nazis
an existential threat to democracy at a certain point when
you create an environment like that, which by the way,
is a tactic of leftists throughout time to dehumanize self
humanize the political opponents, so that then derange people think they.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Can do to them whatever they want to.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right, So at a certain point, de range people are
going to go I'm justified in actually taking out this
existential threat to democracy.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So that is absolutely a part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But if you were to ask me, did crooks and
Ruth or Rauth, however he pronounce it, act alone by themselves,
I have to tell you I have a hard time
believing that, Mark.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, I would have to say that. I do too.
I think there's a lot of questions about Crook's phone
activity and encrypted phone activity. And this guy, he was
there twelve hours in advance that hadn't even been announced.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I hadn't announced.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I have asked too, why did the Secret Service
not sweep the perimeter?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
That's kind of standard operating procedure.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Whenever the president or former presidents moving into an area,
you sweep the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
They did not sweep the perimeter. So I think the
Secret Service, the FBI, the DOJ, all these things when
Donald Trump wins need.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
To be shall we say, reimagined and completely reformed and
restructured that actually get us to what they should be doing,
which is serving the head of the executive branch, the
duly elected president of United States.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, I can tell you I wondered the same thing
about how they missed the pipe bomb in front of
the Democratic headquarters.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Got all kinds of questions about. I mean, Julie Kelly
has been doing phenomenal work on that, but yeah, all
of us have questions like this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
None of this makes sense. And this is the other
thing too, And my time is running out, Mark, but
I want to make this point. Sure, I want to
make this point.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm so happy that Ron DeSantis declared that we are
going to do a separate investigation in Florida of this
second attempt on Trump's life, because I think a lot
of people like myself have gotten the point. I don't
trust the FBI, I don't trust the Secret Service. I
don't think they're actually interested in being honest and truthful
with the American people about what's taking place.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And we might have a chance with.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Ron Decantis and an independent Florida investigation of trying to
get to the bottom of what happened on this second attempt.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Very good, Ned, Ryan, ladies and gentlemen. The book is
American Leviathan.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Go grab a copy.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Absolutely, I'm sure they're available wherever good books are sold. Ned,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
All right, Thanks Mark, have a good one. Bye bye.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You've been listening to The Tea Party Power Hour with
Mark Gula
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised. Welcome to the Tea Party
Power Hour. I am your host Mark Galler. Today, our
very special guest is Ned. Ryan. Ned is the founder
(00:24):
and CEO of American Majority in Voter Gravity, the son
of the former congressman and Olympian and Presidential Medal of
Freedom recipient Jim Ryan. Ned is also the author of
Restoring Our Republic and The Adversaries The Story of Boston
and Bunker Hill. He's a frequent commentator on Fox News,
(00:46):
and Ryan currently resides in Western is That Low down,
Loudown Louden, loudun County, Virginia with his wife and four children.
He's here today to talk to us about his book
The American Leviathon, The Birth of the Administrative State and
the Progressive and Progressive Authoritarianism. First of all, Ned, thanks
(01:09):
for being on the show. We greatly appreciate having you here.
Thank you. I have been one of those poor, deluded
souls who has thought for the sixty one years of
my life that I was living in a constitutional republic
and I would get in get in people's face. On
x and Facebook, who were not of the same political opinion,
(01:32):
and they'd be saying, no, no, no, no, we're democracy,
and I'd be saying, no, no, no, no, We're a
constitutional republic. And now I get to reading your book
and I find out that we're really in some kind
of elitist administrative state.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, we're neither, Mark, And one of the reasons I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
To write this book was to help bring a certain
amount of clarity to people about what's going on in DC.
Obviously Donald J. Trump showing up in January of twenty
seventeen and announcing I'm the duallyct A president of the
United States. I'm the one who decides a lot of
domestic policy, but certainly foreign policy. And he was treated
(02:11):
as a traitor to his country by this administrative state
and its allies in the Democrat Party establishment Republican Party.
I refused to call the media the corporate propagandis. And
that's what everything boils down.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
To, Mark, really quick is all.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Of the things that you were seeing that Donald Trump
is Hitler and a Nazi and an existential threat to democracy.
It's really about who decides and the clash of two
very different governing philosophies. And the reason I say that
is the progressive movement that started called twentieth early twentieth
century had kind of been building before that, but really
(02:46):
came into its own in the early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The whole point of the progressive movement was to destroy.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
The moral and political authority of the US Constitution, to
do away with our constitutional republic, specifically by terror apart
the machinery of the republic, which is the machinery.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Of the republic.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
When I say that markets the separation of powers, it's
the diffusion of power. And in the place of a republic,
the progressive status decided.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
They were going to put in place a.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Massive, sprawling bureaucracy called the administrative state I called the
American Leviathan, that they would separate out from any any
political accountability, and the so called educated elite, these unelected bureaucrats,
this managerial class, in progressive minds, should be doing the
(03:34):
governing and managing of this country. So when you see
what's going on in DC today, where you have these powerful,
unelected bureaucrats declaring either side, I'm the one who has
the real power. I'm the one who decides domestic inform policy. Well,
that was the whole point, the entire time with the.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Progressive I can tell you that I've had a couple
of people on this show who were the targets of
the Leviathan. Yeah. What one of them described to me
the incredible fight that takes place every four years if
a Republican administration comes in, their political appointees have their
(04:11):
security clearance has stripped, they have all kind of false
charges brought against them. It's not just Donald Trump. And
you know, it's a huge fight, and everybody's focusing on
will Trump's been well, there's been an attempt to assassinate
Trump twice. There's all the lawfair against Donald Trump. But
they really go after everybody who has any connection to
(04:31):
Donald Trump or any connection to the Republican Party. I
mean it is a I hate to use the term
bloodbath because of what happened recently, but it is.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I mean, you know, it's a cold political war.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And the reason that they are going so hard at
Donald Trump and his supporters is because we reject the premise.
So the what I mean by that is since Ronald Reagan,
most Republicans in DC in the White House.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
George H. W. Bush, George W.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Bush, their staff, their administration until Donald J. Trump did
not reject the premise. They accepted the premise that the
administrative state was perfectly acceptable, and even more so the
only real problem with the administrative state in their minds
was that they weren't running it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So then Donald Trump shows up and goes, I reject
the primisse.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That's why they are coming so hard at him, because
he rejects the premise that the administrative state should be
the ones governing this country. And they have decided, if
you get back into power. I think Donald Trump has
figured out a lot about what's been going on in
the last nine years. I think He's got a plan
in place to go day one. I'm going to start
devolving and breaking apart the administrative state, which just should
(05:42):
be clear for those listening, the administrative state primarily resides
in the Article two executive branch of our government.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
The head of that branch is the duly elected President
of the United States.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And if that elected president decides I Am going to
for four years, break apart, devolve and shrink this administer
a state can do a lot of damage in four years.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They know it.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He knows it, and that's what you're seeing play out
pure the way everything else. Mark, That's what this conflict
comes down to, this cold political war that we're seeing
take place right now.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Do you think Judge and Marshawan is going to try
to throw him in jail before the of the election
if he.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Will well, I will say that, well, if he wins,
I think Marshawn's not an idiot.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He's not a complete idiot.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I would say he's a corrupt, conflicted judge who should
never have been involved in this case because of his
daughter's behavior and the fact that the daughter has been
raising tens of millions off of this case. I do
not think Marshawn will be a complete and total idiot
try and jail him. Should and win Donald Trump wins
on November fifth, He's not that much of a fool.
But if Trump doesn't win on November fifth, I would
(06:44):
not be shocked at off he actually sends him to prison.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Wow, I wouldn't be I don't even know what to
say to that, because I think there are a lot
of people in America who would not take that very well.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, I will say this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They the reason that I think this conflict between the
two governing philosophies has accelerated so much is because one
they see a very real threat in Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
They see a very real threat in America first.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And they're getting deeply angry and frustrated that we, the
dirty little peasants in their minds, have not figured out
what's best for us, and we are going to deal
definitively with this threat in their minds so that nobody
else gets the genius idea in the future that they
should come after and destroy and dismantle the administrative state.
(07:34):
That's why things taking place right now, Mark.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, they are sending us a lot of messages the
same thing with January sixth. If you think that a
false election has taken place, or a questionable election, don't
you dare challenge it because.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's a destruction of the First Amendment. They don't care.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But see, here's the thing, Mark, Our government, as envisioned
by the founders was a rights based government.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, what I mean by that we hold these truths
to be self.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Evident all in our career, equal doubt by their creator,
with certain unhalable rights that among these are life, liberty,
pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights Governments are
instituted in a moment.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Governments do not give rights. Governments do not take away rights.
Governments are into secure rights.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Progressives do not believe that fundamentally, do not believe in
natural inherent rights. In fact, one of the guys I
write about in this book America Leviathan is John Burgess.
John Burgess was a Columbia law professor. He's also considered
the father of political science in this country. John Burgess
was vehemently opposed to the idea of a rights based
government because they thought it would lead to great inefficiency
(08:35):
if we had God forbid millions and tens of millions
of individuals making claims on their rights against the government
because they wanted efficiency and they thought the state was stalvation.
So bring it up to twenty twenty four. Yeah, you're
looking at them completely trampling the rights to free speech
of those on January sixth. But they're also again sending
(08:55):
a very clear signal do not question the official narrative,
or there will be consequences for you. I think January sixth,
the lawfair against Trump is meant to have a chilling
effect on those who will not accept the supremacy and
the legitimacy of the administrative state.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You reference in the book the four horsemen of the
Progressive Apocalypse. Could you share with my audience who those
four people are and what they did to get us
in this state?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So I tried to get it narrowed down. There are
a lot of different people that.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Were involved in really putting together the progressive movement and
administrative state and administrative law that bolstered the state. You know,
Frank good Now, I talk about a little bit in
John Burgess and some others, But the four horsemen of
the Progressive Apocalypse in my mind were Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Crowley,
Roberto Folette, Theodore Roosevelt, which I would make the point
mark three of those men that I just mentioned were Republicans.
(09:51):
People ask when did this uni party begin in Washington,
d C. Well, it began really in the early nineteen hundreds,
and I think became crystallized in the nineteen twelve presidential elections,
in which most of the men running in that presidential election,
Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson even tacked to a certain extent
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Eugene Debs.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They all pretty.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Much said these are legitimate ideas with administrative state and
this massive bureaucracy. And so when people ask is progressive
something from the left, it is as deeply on American
and as deeply unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But let's not forget it's.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Democrats and Republicans who founded the progressive statist movement in
this country that, really, I would argue, Mark, have destroyed
our legacy as the freeborn American people with our God
given inherent rights and a rights based government, annihilated that
and instead put in these massive this massive administrative state
with all the departments and agencies that are unelected by
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the American people.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And that's an important part mark to remember.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
When you do not have political accountability and people who
are doing the governing of this country, I would like
to ask, if very interesting question, what is the recourse
for the American people for their grievances to be addressed? Well,
the people doing mostly governing this country weren't elected by them.
There's no political accountability. Quite frankly, the American people are
an afterthought for most of those people quote unquote governing
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this country inside the administrative state.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, you can't get them fired. It's almost impossible.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
This is why it is going to be if Donald win.
I'm going to say win. Donald Trump wins on the
number five, and he goes in and day day one declares,
I Am going to break apart for the administrative state.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Mark, you haven't seen anything yet.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
All the stuff that we have seen over the past
nine years is kind of a warm up act for
the cold political war that will take place when Donald J.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Trump declares won the administrative state.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It will be Katie Barbador's Hold onto your hats, because
they are going to fight tooth and nail against the
duly elected president who will be the head of the
executive branch and say you can't do this, when in
fact every right to do what he will do in
breaking apart the state and returning us back to a.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Proper constitutional republic. And I want to say this one
last thing, Mark.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Sure, people are going to be screaming on the left,
this is about revenge, This is about him settling scores.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No, it's not. It's about restoration.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You cannot have restoration of the proper constitutional republic without
there being consequences for terrible, egregious abuse of power and
a resetting of the proper constitutional order.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
This will not be revenge. It will not be settling scores.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It will be about the restoration of the republic and
restoring the rights of the American people.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The president Zanil had two attempts on his life. What
are your thoughts on this is at least just some
nuts who were revved up by all the attacks.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, Mark, I've got a couple thoughts. One, you know,
these corporate propagandas I call.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Them, stenographers of the state as.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Well in the book, they have created an environment over
most lives decade and Trumpus Hitler his followers are Nazis
an existential threat to democracy at a certain point when
you create an environment like that, which by the way,
is a tactic of leftists throughout time to dehumanize self
humanize the political opponents, so that then derange people think they.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Can do to them whatever they want to.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right, So at a certain point, de range people are
going to go I'm justified in actually taking out this
existential threat to democracy.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So that is absolutely a part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But if you were to ask me, did crooks and
Ruth or Rauth, however he pronounce it, act alone by themselves,
I have to tell you I have a hard time
believing that, Mark.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, I would have to say that. I do too.
I think there's a lot of questions about Crook's phone
activity and encrypted phone activity. And this guy, he was
there twelve hours in advance that hadn't even been announced.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I hadn't announced.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I have asked too, why did the Secret Service
not sweep the perimeter?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
That's kind of standard operating procedure.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Whenever the president or former presidents moving into an area,
you sweep the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
They did not sweep the perimeter. So I think the
Secret Service, the FBI, the DOJ, all these things when
Donald Trump wins need.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
To be shall we say, reimagined and completely reformed and
restructured that actually get us to what they should be doing,
which is serving the head of the executive branch, the
duly elected president of United States.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, I can tell you I wondered the same thing
about how they missed the pipe bomb in front of
the Democratic headquarters.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Got all kinds of questions about. I mean, Julie Kelly
has been doing phenomenal work on that, but yeah, all
of us have questions like this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
None of this makes sense. And this is the other
thing too, And my time is running out, Mark, but
I want to make this point. Sure, I want to
make this point.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm so happy that Ron DeSantis declared that we are
going to do a separate investigation in Florida of this
second attempt on Trump's life, because I think a lot
of people like myself have gotten the point. I don't
trust the FBI, I don't trust the Secret Service. I
don't think they're actually interested in being honest and truthful
with the American people about what's taking place.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And we might have a chance with.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Ron Decantis and an independent Florida investigation of trying to
get to the bottom of what happened on this second attempt.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Very good, Ned, Ryan, ladies and gentlemen. The book is
American Leviathan.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Go grab a copy.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Absolutely, I'm sure they're available wherever good books are sold. Ned,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
All right, Thanks Mark, have a good one. Bye bye.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
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