September 10, 2024 • 16 mins
The Last Commander: The Once and Future Battle for Afghanistan
Lieutenant General Sami Sadat is a highly decorated former senior commander in the Afghan Army. He worked in intelligence and special operations before taking command of a Corps. He was awarded a bronze star for saving the life of a US pilot who had come down in a Taliban-held area. He is currently leading opposition efforts against the Taliban from outside Afghanistan.
Sadat’s writing has appeared in the New York Times and the Huffington Post, and he has been interviewed by and his story featured in the New York Times, NPR, AFP, CNN, and the BBC. He is the subject of the Emmy Award-winning National Geographic documentary Retrograde, by award-winning director Matthew Heineman.
Lieutenant General Sami Sadat is a highly decorated former senior commander in the Afghan Army. He worked in intelligence and special operations before taking command of a Corps. He was awarded a bronze star for saving the life of a US pilot who had come down in a Taliban-held area. He is currently leading opposition efforts against the Taliban from outside Afghanistan.
Sadat’s writing has appeared in the New York Times and the Huffington Post, and he has been interviewed by and his story featured in the New York Times, NPR, AFP, CNN, and the BBC. He is the subject of the Emmy Award-winning National Geographic documentary Retrograde, by award-winning director Matthew Heineman.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome to the Tea Party Power Hour. I am your host,
Mark Gallar, and we have a very special guest today,
General Sammy Saddat, the last Commander of Afghanistan who has
written a book about the experience. Again, the title is
The Last Commander, the Once in Future Battle for Afghanistan.
(00:39):
Let me tell you a little bit about mister Saddat.
He is a or was a lieutenant general. He is
a highly decorated former senior commander in the Afghan Army.
He worked in intelligence and special operations before taking command
of the Corps. He was awarded a Bronze Star for
(00:59):
saving the life of a US pilot who had come
down in a Taliban held area. He is currently leading
opposition efforts against the Taliban from outside of Afghanistan. His
writings have appeared in The New York Times, in the
Huffington Post, and he has been interviewed and been the
(01:21):
feature story on The New York Times, in pr AFPCNN,
the BBC, and he also is the subject of an
Emmy Award winning national geographic documentary, Retrograde by award winning
director Matthew Heineman.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
General Sadat, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thank you, Mark. I'm glad to be part of your
shaw for today.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We as Americans, I think, tend to over focus on
the thirteen lives that were American lives that were lost
during the Afghan withdrawal. That lely forget about the Afghan
lives that were lost, and we forget after the Taliban
came in took control, how many people were tortured, how
(02:09):
many people were killed, how many people had their lives destroyed.
Give us some idea of what the people of Afghanistan
went through due to the botched withdrawal of American troops.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Thank you, Mark, and you nailed it. I think thirteen
lives lost are a lot of lives. But on that
same day, one hundred and seventy four Afghans were killed
as well, And this is in compared to what we
are going to have is probably smaller because the withdrawal
(02:49):
and the consequences of Afghanistan's handover to the Taliban is grave,
it is strategic, and it will increase by day. So
thank you for saying that the fallout from the withdrawal
from Afghanistan really is in three categories. If I can
(03:10):
say that, the first one is a humanitarian disaster. Eight
million Afghans left Afghanistan in the past three years. This
is only compared to Ukrainians. The same amount of Ukrainians
left their country. Also in the humanitarian disaster, we have
sixteen million people suffering from lack of food or food
(03:33):
and security, including six million children that are facing malnutrition.
Food and medicine and other things are short because of
the Taliban or not providing any services. Basically, whatever dollar
bills they get, they spend it on their military apparatus
and they are not supporting the people. The second fallout
is the return of international terrorism to Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Al Kaida is back.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
As I speak to you today, there is the thousands
Al Qaeda fighters and Al Kaieda affiliate fighters in Afghanistan.
Most of them has already trained and they're ready to
be deployed in the rest of the world, including the
United States, Europe, Africa, Middle East, and they're already engaged
in a battle in Africa with African countries and in
(04:21):
the Middle East against the United States.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The third one really is.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The isolation of my country of Afghanistan completely diplomatically by
the rest of the world. Only a strategic counterpart the
Taliban have today is the Iranians and the Chinese, and
they are not up to no good.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They're just supporting the regime.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And China has contracted our minerals and they're paying the Taliban,
and the Talban are not spending that money on our people.
They're just spending it on themselves getting rich, you know,
getting luxury cars and houses and getting married for the
fourth time and things like that. So for the US,
it's also it is effectively a decline of the US
(05:09):
influence globally and people have now rose up to talent
the United States elsewhere as well, because seeing the withdrawal
from Afghanistan, abandonment of the Afghan partnership, he is seen
as weakness and also it broke the trust of a
lot of other nations that wanted to become partner with
(05:30):
the US globally.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And you can see that on the only basis.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
One of the things you mentioned in the book, and
it was very heartbreaking to read, but that there is
such a shortage of money in Afghanistan. People were trying
to sell all their household items to get money. People
were selling their kidneys to get money, people were selling
their daughters to get money. I mean, it's a very
(05:57):
very desperate situation.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
At your point, it is.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Unfortunately, this is unprecedented in our history. Never have we
been in this situation in our past history, even during
the Russian invasion, during our war with English, for our
war of independence, during our civil war. We never have
been so suffocated by any regime other than the Taliban.
(06:24):
And it is getting more and more engraved into the
hearts of the Afghans, with banning women from work, from education,
from trouble in, putting restrictions on man on how to
dress and what to wear, what to not wear, to
grow beard, not to grow hair, and some stupid, unbelievable
(06:48):
things like that all liberties, all civil liberties, are effectively
banned in Afghanistan today.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's funny you mentioned that I'm holding an article in
my hand that came out last night, looking at new
Speed last night, and they said. Last month, the Taliban
cemented its latest list of morality laws designed to keep
women covered, quiet and stuck at home. The statutes include
punishment for making eye contact with a man, talking loudly
(07:21):
or singing in the house or speaking in public. I
mean to the American women, if they were reading this,
they must be thinking, you know, we've always had more
freedom than this. Why is the Taliban so insistent to
take all rights of women?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So they're afraid of women?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
A simple answer is they're afraid of educated women because
educated women will produce educated children, and educated children will
challenge the Taliban regime in the long term. So they
want to make sure that the place whereby education could
spread into the society furthermore, is curdled, and an already
(08:09):
educating society of Afghan male is now subjected to re
education for a very tyrannical, zealous, fanatical religious miscoated misinterpreted,
mispicked lines by the Taliban that only benefits their regime.
(08:29):
So they are afraid of an open society. Our society
has transformed into an open and liberal society, and the
Taliban are scared of that. They know that they cannot
govern if they cannot reverse these you know, open minded
males and females in our society.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
One of the things you mentioned in the book is
that when the Taliban retook Kabul, they didn't recognize it
because of all the changes that occurred since the American
forces had arrived. Talk to us a little bit about that.
What type of changes in Kabul seemed to have totally
caught the Taliban off guard.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
So in two thousand and one, when the Taliban were roasted,
our country was completely destroyed by the civil war and
you know, the destruction of the Soviet invasion. And in
twenty years Afghanistan was completely reconstructed, not only Kobble, but
all the major cities, all the provinces. You know, infrastructure
was rebuilt, a government was rebuilt, universities, schools, factories in
(09:38):
you know, working places and all the other things that
the city needs. So and the Taliban continued to destroy it.
When they came back and they saw these high rise buildings,
these markets, like these nice restaurants, and people are dressed
completely different. You know, everyone is clean shave, and you know,
(10:01):
they look nice and they smell good.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So the Taliban really didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Recognize that because they when they left it, it was
a complete destruction and they left the city in ashes.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So for them it was a shock.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You could see it in the videos and then the
photos of how the Taliban behave, for example, in children
playgrounds and in parks, and they're completely surprised is what
to do with some of these things. Now we have
photos of Taliban sleeping on the.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And the.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
On the sports equipment of some houses and you know,
doing silly things, you know, proving that they don't know
what these things are for.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, one of the things in the article that I
was that I just mentioned that came out yesterday is
they were saying, of course, uh, the women. The Taliban
to not allow the women to have jobs, but there
is one job they will let them have, and that
spying on other women, turning in other women for violations
of the code. And so they're saying that right now
(11:14):
women are actually, you know, being paid to spy on
other women, and some women who get caught will be told,
you know, well we won't send you to jail, but
you have to agree to spy on other women. And
so it's a very interesting situation where women are being
for the women of Afghanistan are being forced to spy
(11:38):
on other women. And they say that the Taliban are
going through the streets and even if a woman has
on full burka, they will lift the burka to see
if she's wearing Western trousers or some western clothing underneath
the burka, and if she is, they would beat the women.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
In the streets. That's how bad it is right now.
As far as enforcing these dress.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Codes, that's all true. And they do the same thing
with man. I mean, I can.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Talk to you the whole day about the restrictions and
some of the very stupid things that the Taliban due
to the Afghan man and woman, and you are absolutely right,
that's what we are seeing as well.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Now, at one point, Barack Obama, President Barack Obama agreed
to escalate the campaign against the Taliban, but he also
set a tight timetable for getting out. And as I
think you very clearly put in the book, that's like
saying you're going to raise in a game of cards,
a game of poker, and then say, but I'm going
(12:40):
to fold on the next round.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
It was that's when the beginning and of our loss
really began in the battlefield, with President Obama announcing a
complete withdrawal of the US forces and also putting a
time table on a mission because you know, well we
have been.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
There for too long. We have you know, sent all
that it takes. That's not true.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
You know, you send soldiers to win wars, you don't
give them a timetable to go around. This is not
a tour, this is not a vacation. This is to
defeat your enemy whatever it takes, however long it takes.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And President Bush knew this, and this is what he said.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He said, we will be there for as long as
it takes, and we will do whatever it takes. And
that's if that mindset existed within Obama administration. I'm pretty
sure by end of Obama administration there would be no
Taliban as a significant threat to the Afghan government and
the US troops could have left anyway. But it was this,
(13:50):
you know, screwing up day by day with different announcements,
different policies that that came around, and then we had
to adjust where the dud have to adjust to it,
everybody had to adjust to it, and it kind of
took away our initiative on the battleground and it killed
the continuity of any program that had a chance of success.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, if you're the Taliban, you look at that, you go, oh, well,
if we can just hang on to this date, we win.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's what they did.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Mark, Yeah, okay, well, let me just ask you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Where can people get the book?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
People can get the book on Amazon and you can
order it. It's a story of the Afghans and the
US military, and the Afghan and the US intelligence working together.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It is explaining.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Some of the challenges on the battlefield and the politics.
So if you want to lead a business, or you
want to start a career with the government or with
the military, this is the book that you would need
to read because it will talk about leadership. It will
talk about some of the circumstances you will face and
the decision making. And it's all told in a very
(15:05):
simple story, so you will it's an easy read. I
didn't want to write a conceptual book. I wrote it
as a practitioner and as a story.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I understand, and I personally thank you for doing that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You think so you surprised me.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Mark, you ask We've had to bring question. I do
have one. If Kamala Harris is elected, how do you
think she will be respected in that part of the world.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I think she will not be respected at all because
she does nothing for Afghan women under the oppression of
the Taliban. She did nothing during the pull out, and
I don't think she will do anything, and not only
in that part of the world, but I don't think
she will be fully you know, respected in America as well.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It will be chaos. I hope she's not elected.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I did have some more questions for you. We'll have
you back another time for that. In the meantime, have
a great rest of your day, and thank you so
much for being on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I truly appreciate Thank you, Mark. Yeah, I'll come back
whenever you call me.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Thank you, Okay, thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
All right, I have a good day you too.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
You've been listening to The Tea Party Power Hour with
Mark Gula
Warning the following podcast might be too truthful for most liberals.
Listener discretion is therefore advised.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome to the Tea Party Power Hour. I am your host,
Mark Gallar, and we have a very special guest today,
General Sammy Saddat, the last Commander of Afghanistan who has
written a book about the experience. Again, the title is
The Last Commander, the Once in Future Battle for Afghanistan.
(00:39):
Let me tell you a little bit about mister Saddat.
He is a or was a lieutenant general. He is
a highly decorated former senior commander in the Afghan Army.
He worked in intelligence and special operations before taking command
of the Corps. He was awarded a Bronze Star for
(00:59):
saving the life of a US pilot who had come
down in a Taliban held area. He is currently leading
opposition efforts against the Taliban from outside of Afghanistan. His
writings have appeared in The New York Times, in the
Huffington Post, and he has been interviewed and been the
(01:21):
feature story on The New York Times, in pr AFPCNN,
the BBC, and he also is the subject of an
Emmy Award winning national geographic documentary, Retrograde by award winning
director Matthew Heineman.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
General Sadat, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thank you, Mark. I'm glad to be part of your
shaw for today.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We as Americans, I think, tend to over focus on
the thirteen lives that were American lives that were lost
during the Afghan withdrawal. That lely forget about the Afghan
lives that were lost, and we forget after the Taliban
came in took control, how many people were tortured, how
(02:09):
many people were killed, how many people had their lives destroyed.
Give us some idea of what the people of Afghanistan
went through due to the botched withdrawal of American troops.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Thank you, Mark, and you nailed it. I think thirteen
lives lost are a lot of lives. But on that
same day, one hundred and seventy four Afghans were killed
as well, And this is in compared to what we
are going to have is probably smaller because the withdrawal
(02:49):
and the consequences of Afghanistan's handover to the Taliban is grave,
it is strategic, and it will increase by day. So
thank you for saying that the fallout from the withdrawal
from Afghanistan really is in three categories. If I can
(03:10):
say that, the first one is a humanitarian disaster. Eight
million Afghans left Afghanistan in the past three years. This
is only compared to Ukrainians. The same amount of Ukrainians
left their country. Also in the humanitarian disaster, we have
sixteen million people suffering from lack of food or food
(03:33):
and security, including six million children that are facing malnutrition.
Food and medicine and other things are short because of
the Taliban or not providing any services. Basically, whatever dollar
bills they get, they spend it on their military apparatus
and they are not supporting the people. The second fallout
is the return of international terrorism to Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Al Kaida is back.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
As I speak to you today, there is the thousands
Al Qaeda fighters and Al Kaieda affiliate fighters in Afghanistan.
Most of them has already trained and they're ready to
be deployed in the rest of the world, including the
United States, Europe, Africa, Middle East, and they're already engaged
in a battle in Africa with African countries and in
(04:21):
the Middle East against the United States.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The third one really is.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The isolation of my country of Afghanistan completely diplomatically by
the rest of the world. Only a strategic counterpart the
Taliban have today is the Iranians and the Chinese, and
they are not up to no good.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They're just supporting the regime.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And China has contracted our minerals and they're paying the Taliban,
and the Talban are not spending that money on our people.
They're just spending it on themselves getting rich, you know,
getting luxury cars and houses and getting married for the
fourth time and things like that. So for the US,
it's also it is effectively a decline of the US
(05:09):
influence globally and people have now rose up to talent
the United States elsewhere as well, because seeing the withdrawal
from Afghanistan, abandonment of the Afghan partnership, he is seen
as weakness and also it broke the trust of a
lot of other nations that wanted to become partner with
(05:30):
the US globally.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And you can see that on the only basis.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
One of the things you mentioned in the book, and
it was very heartbreaking to read, but that there is
such a shortage of money in Afghanistan. People were trying
to sell all their household items to get money. People
were selling their kidneys to get money, people were selling
their daughters to get money. I mean, it's a very
(05:57):
very desperate situation.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
At your point, it is.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Unfortunately, this is unprecedented in our history. Never have we
been in this situation in our past history, even during
the Russian invasion, during our war with English, for our
war of independence, during our civil war. We never have
been so suffocated by any regime other than the Taliban.
(06:24):
And it is getting more and more engraved into the
hearts of the Afghans, with banning women from work, from education,
from trouble in, putting restrictions on man on how to
dress and what to wear, what to not wear, to
grow beard, not to grow hair, and some stupid, unbelievable
(06:48):
things like that all liberties, all civil liberties, are effectively
banned in Afghanistan today.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's funny you mentioned that I'm holding an article in
my hand that came out last night, looking at new
Speed last night, and they said. Last month, the Taliban
cemented its latest list of morality laws designed to keep
women covered, quiet and stuck at home. The statutes include
punishment for making eye contact with a man, talking loudly
(07:21):
or singing in the house or speaking in public. I
mean to the American women, if they were reading this,
they must be thinking, you know, we've always had more
freedom than this. Why is the Taliban so insistent to
take all rights of women?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So they're afraid of women?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
A simple answer is they're afraid of educated women because
educated women will produce educated children, and educated children will
challenge the Taliban regime in the long term. So they
want to make sure that the place whereby education could
spread into the society furthermore, is curdled, and an already
(08:09):
educating society of Afghan male is now subjected to re
education for a very tyrannical, zealous, fanatical religious miscoated misinterpreted,
mispicked lines by the Taliban that only benefits their regime.
(08:29):
So they are afraid of an open society. Our society
has transformed into an open and liberal society, and the
Taliban are scared of that. They know that they cannot
govern if they cannot reverse these you know, open minded
males and females in our society.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
One of the things you mentioned in the book is
that when the Taliban retook Kabul, they didn't recognize it
because of all the changes that occurred since the American
forces had arrived. Talk to us a little bit about that.
What type of changes in Kabul seemed to have totally
caught the Taliban off guard.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
So in two thousand and one, when the Taliban were roasted,
our country was completely destroyed by the civil war and
you know, the destruction of the Soviet invasion. And in
twenty years Afghanistan was completely reconstructed, not only Kobble, but
all the major cities, all the provinces. You know, infrastructure
was rebuilt, a government was rebuilt, universities, schools, factories in
(09:38):
you know, working places and all the other things that
the city needs. So and the Taliban continued to destroy it.
When they came back and they saw these high rise buildings,
these markets, like these nice restaurants, and people are dressed
completely different. You know, everyone is clean shave, and you know,
(10:01):
they look nice and they smell good.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So the Taliban really didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Recognize that because they when they left it, it was
a complete destruction and they left the city in ashes.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So for them it was a shock.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You could see it in the videos and then the
photos of how the Taliban behave, for example, in children
playgrounds and in parks, and they're completely surprised is what
to do with some of these things. Now we have
photos of Taliban sleeping on the.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And the.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
On the sports equipment of some houses and you know,
doing silly things, you know, proving that they don't know
what these things are for.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, one of the things in the article that I
was that I just mentioned that came out yesterday is
they were saying, of course, uh, the women. The Taliban
to not allow the women to have jobs, but there
is one job they will let them have, and that
spying on other women, turning in other women for violations
of the code. And so they're saying that right now
(11:14):
women are actually, you know, being paid to spy on
other women, and some women who get caught will be told,
you know, well we won't send you to jail, but
you have to agree to spy on other women. And
so it's a very interesting situation where women are being
for the women of Afghanistan are being forced to spy
(11:38):
on other women. And they say that the Taliban are
going through the streets and even if a woman has
on full burka, they will lift the burka to see
if she's wearing Western trousers or some western clothing underneath
the burka, and if she is, they would beat the women.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
In the streets. That's how bad it is right now.
As far as enforcing these dress.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Codes, that's all true. And they do the same thing
with man. I mean, I can.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Talk to you the whole day about the restrictions and
some of the very stupid things that the Taliban due
to the Afghan man and woman, and you are absolutely right,
that's what we are seeing as well.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Now, at one point, Barack Obama, President Barack Obama agreed
to escalate the campaign against the Taliban, but he also
set a tight timetable for getting out. And as I
think you very clearly put in the book, that's like
saying you're going to raise in a game of cards,
a game of poker, and then say, but I'm going
(12:40):
to fold on the next round.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
It was that's when the beginning and of our loss
really began in the battlefield, with President Obama announcing a
complete withdrawal of the US forces and also putting a
time table on a mission because you know, well we
have been.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
There for too long. We have you know, sent all
that it takes. That's not true.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
You know, you send soldiers to win wars, you don't
give them a timetable to go around. This is not
a tour, this is not a vacation. This is to
defeat your enemy whatever it takes, however long it takes.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And President Bush knew this, and this is what he said.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He said, we will be there for as long as
it takes, and we will do whatever it takes. And
that's if that mindset existed within Obama administration. I'm pretty
sure by end of Obama administration there would be no
Taliban as a significant threat to the Afghan government and
the US troops could have left anyway. But it was this,
(13:50):
you know, screwing up day by day with different announcements,
different policies that that came around, and then we had
to adjust where the dud have to adjust to it,
everybody had to adjust to it, and it kind of
took away our initiative on the battleground and it killed
the continuity of any program that had a chance of success.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, if you're the Taliban, you look at that, you go, oh, well,
if we can just hang on to this date, we win.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's what they did.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Mark, Yeah, okay, well, let me just ask you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Where can people get the book?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
People can get the book on Amazon and you can
order it. It's a story of the Afghans and the
US military, and the Afghan and the US intelligence working together.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It is explaining.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Some of the challenges on the battlefield and the politics.
So if you want to lead a business, or you
want to start a career with the government or with
the military, this is the book that you would need
to read because it will talk about leadership. It will
talk about some of the circumstances you will face and
the decision making. And it's all told in a very
(15:05):
simple story, so you will it's an easy read. I
didn't want to write a conceptual book. I wrote it
as a practitioner and as a story.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I understand, and I personally thank you for doing that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You think so you surprised me.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Mark, you ask We've had to bring question. I do
have one. If Kamala Harris is elected, how do you
think she will be respected in that part of the world.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I think she will not be respected at all because
she does nothing for Afghan women under the oppression of
the Taliban. She did nothing during the pull out, and
I don't think she will do anything, and not only
in that part of the world, but I don't think
she will be fully you know, respected in America as well.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It will be chaos. I hope she's not elected.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I did have some more questions for you. We'll have
you back another time for that. In the meantime, have
a great rest of your day, and thank you so
much for being on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I truly appreciate Thank you, Mark. Yeah, I'll come back
whenever you call me.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Thank you, Okay, thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
All right, I have a good day you too.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
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