Episode 1: How to Make it on Your Own

Teacup and Chip talk about how a young man today can get out and make it on his own with a job, housing, a car, and starting a life on his own. As you would expect with these two, a little chaos ensues and lots of rabbit holes are gone down. How do you move out of your parent's house? How do you buy a car? How do you find a career to follow?

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Episode Transcript

>> Chip (00:06):
I was in third grade when I got. The last time I got in a real fight.
No, I was in. Sorry.
Fifth grade. Fifth grade. Fourth grade. Something like that. With that
Nick kid.

>> Producer (00:16):
It was fourth grade.

>> Teacup (00:17):
That was Nick.

>> Chip (00:18):
I, beat that kid. It's awesome. He hurt
Ella. He didn't. I'm
surprised he didn't go to the ER, actually. Cause he did hit his head. He probably
has brain damage now.

>> Producer (00:27):
That's the only time you ever did fight, is if somebody came after your.

>> Chip (00:29):
Sister or the one time that kid kicked me in the
face on the bus. That was the first time.
That was the first time I actually beat someone up. Like, I had fought
people, but I'd never beat someone up.

>> Teacup (00:41):
So what you're saying is you don't like getting kicked in the face.

>> Chip (00:44):
No. Especially by a kid. Dang it.
Especially by a kid who would, like, constantly, you
know? Cause I rode the same bus every day. He would mess with me
and mess with me and mess with me. And then one day as I'm walking by, he
says my name, and I stop, and I
look at him. I turned actually, fully towards him,
and he just. He was laying down in his bus seat and

(01:04):
just kicked me square in the face. And I think he was expecting
me to fall or, like, to, you know, freak
out. But I remember just, like, feeling it, my head
coming back, looking back at him,
and, like, blank. I don't remember anything after
that. I do remember when I got called into the principal's office later
that day, and they showed me the camera footage on the

(01:25):
bus where I, like. So
he's laying down in the seat. I lifted my leg up and just kept
kicking him while he was in the seat, and then started
leaning over him and just wailing on him until he fell out of the
seat. And then I backed up, looked at him,
nodded, and walked off the bus, and I went.
So we had these bus monitors, right? And they were students,
volunteers, who were supposed to count how many kids came off the bus to make

(01:48):
sure everyone got off the bus. I looked at the kid and said
something the kid said. I said, like, hey,
this guy's still on the bus. He kicked me in the face. That's what this is about.
I was bleeding from the nose, and he was like,
huh? He goes running on the bus. And I just walked away.

>> Teacup (02:02):
I.

>> Chip (02:03):
For a kid, I looked like such a badass.
I was like, this dude kicked me in the face. Didn't even
care. Beat him, let him go
on the floor. Was like, okay, he's still breathing and walked away.

>> Teacup (02:16):
You're not supposed to stick around and admire your
handiwork.

>> Chip (02:19):
Not like that. Like, I just looked. I was like, okay, he's not dead.
And then just walked away.

>> Teacup (02:24):
And even if he was,
he shouldn't have kicked you in the face.

>> Chip (02:29):
Exactly. he was wearing cotton. He was wearing all stars
too. Converse.

>> Teacup (02:33):
I think it would have been worse if, if, he was
wearing. If he was
wearing. Make sure I'm not getting a nasty, nasty
look. I don't know
why. I wouldn't do nothing about it. Anyways.
I beg for forgiveness. That's all.

>> Chip (02:51):
And the other time, so we were at this, my
friend's birthday party. And
one of the kids in our class. This was in
fourth or fifth grade. his name was Nick. He
was notoriously a jerk.
there was this big water slide, like, the inflatable water slides, you
know? And my sister had just gone down it and was at

(03:11):
the bottom, and she
was about to get off, and I. He
yells and her leg was stuck in, like, a
little, like, there's a
cutout in the bottom of it where her
foot was, like, stuck in it. And she was trying to get out. And he was like, you better
get out of the way. I'm coming down if you don't get out of the way
in three. And he starts counting down. I'm at the bottom, and I'm looking up, and

(03:33):
I'm like, don't you do it. Don't you do it. Don't you
do it. And he slides down, goes right into her. She
gets, like, kicks her in the face, coming down.
Like, I was so mad. I
jump up on the slide, and he's wearing one of those,
like, you know, ah, rash guard shirts. I picked
him up off the ground, off with
his rash guard looked down. I was like, if you ever touch

(03:56):
her again, you won't. I said something. It was. But I remember it was,
if you ever touch her again. And he's, like, looking at me like,
what the heck? And I just threw him off the thing
into the mud. And he landed on his back, and he
got up, and he was so mad. And he looked at me like he was gonna do something.
And then he just walked away. And everyone was, like, looking
at me like I was a monster. And then looking at him like, dang, dude, he

(04:17):
really gonna take that? And he walked away.
I didn't even get in trouble either. He didn't say anything.
Don't touch my sister, man. You touched my sister.
That's the line, basically.
Don't. That's the thing. Don't kick me in the face. Don't
mess with my sister. my family.

>> Teacup (04:35):
I got into a bar fight. I came home from Iraq
the first time, and my brother was home visiting
my mother and me. My stepfather and my brother
were my stepfather's friends. Went out drinking,
got into a bar fight. It was
shitty. Yeah. go out for a
nice night.

>> Chip (04:55):
I didn't know bar fights still, like, actually happen.

>> Teacup (04:58):
Yeah, man. If you're enough of a dick,
a bar fight can happen.

>> Chip (05:04):
I want to witness a bar fight. I, don't want
to be part of it. I just want to see it on topic. Don't we? She's.

>> Producer (05:10):
That would be fantastic if you would get on topic. Thank you for
that. Not that. Absolutely.
Tell bar fight stories. Cause that's fantastic. But could you introduce
the topic? That would be great.

>> Chip (05:24):
On missions, they called
him teacup.

>> Teacup (05:35):
Guess I'm here cause I got some shit to tell you.

>> Chip (05:40):
Now he's telling the boys
what he knows. Wait,
what?
This is teacup talks.

>> Teacup (05:59):
So you're working now. You're making
money. You're balling out of control. You
just bought a car. I did
balling out of control. Nice car, too.

>> Chip (06:10):
I'm about to go and buy a lift kit for it, actually.

>> Teacup (06:17):
I don't. I don't fucking get you fuckers.
I don't.

>> Chip (06:22):
For those of you listening, I have bought a
2015 Subaru forester.
So. Which is.
They're pretty capable, and I think I could
make it even more capable.

>> Teacup (06:34):
Listen, it's a good car. All wheel drive.

>> Chip (06:36):
Yep.

>> Teacup (06:37):
It's good gas mileage.

>> Chip (06:39):
Very good gas mileage.

>> Teacup (06:40):
And it's got room for you to put all your stuff. All the stuff
that you need to put in there and all that stuff.
and the cars last forever. They're. Subaru's
notorious for having cars that
last forever.

>> Chip (06:53):
It's fun.

>> Teacup (06:54):
So, yeah. Yeah. overall, I
think it's just. It's a good buy. Now
when you start talking all this crazy stuff, like, hey, I'm gonna put a
lift kit and I'm gonna do all this stuff. First off,
you ruin the structural integrity of that
vehicle. Like it is.
The height that it's at now is very specific

(07:14):
to the design of the car. You
start adding height to it, it becomes a tippy
cardinal,
but it looks cool.

>> Chip (07:24):
Yeah, I've looked into
it, actually. So when you lift them, you end up putting.
Because it's a unibody car,
you end up having to, not just do a
suspension lift, but pretty much
unbolt the sub. The subframe or
something from the car. And then put these little spacers in. So
it doesn't really. It doesn't, hurt

(07:46):
the structural integrity too much.

>> Teacup (07:47):
I'm just worried about, like, you.

>> Chip (07:49):
It will make it tippy a little bit.

>> Teacup (07:50):
Yeah.

>> Chip (07:51):
It won't flip, obviously, because it's still low to the ground. It's not like a truck,
but.

>> Teacup (07:54):
Well, see, no, it's not. It's not as low as it's
supposed to be. So now, like these,
you know, getting on and off the highway, for example, taking those
turns, like, if you're not doing 25 or 35 or
whatever the recommended speed limit is,
you've. You've increased your
chances for a rollover.

>> Chip (08:13):
You might like that. Then I'll be forced to go to speed limit.

>> Teacup (08:18):
I guess. You're not gonna.
You're gonna fuck up.

>> Chip (08:22):
Listen, it's gonna be a minute. Cause these. The lift gets expensive, so I have
to. It's even a little outside of what I can do.

>> Teacup (08:28):
Yeah, well, this is what I'm telling you, man.
you gotta. You're over here talking about you got a
perfectly good car, operates
just fine, and you wanna take your
hard earned dollars and instead of investing it,
something that will have a return
on investment,

(08:49):
you're gonna take that money and buy lift kits and all this other shit. Are you gonna
do the work yourself?

>> Chip (08:53):
Oh, yeah.

>> Teacup (08:53):
Okay. So you're gonna save a little money there.

>> Chip (08:56):
I just. I like doing it anyway.

>> Teacup (08:59):
Yeah. Yeah, I know you like that stuff. And, I
mean, ultimately, my concern is, like, money,
you know? Cause, like, right now, while
you think you ball out of control, you're not.
You're poor.

>> Chip (09:13):
I'm not that bad. Dang.

>> Teacup (09:16):
Yeah, you are.

>> Chip (09:16):
We're not gonna talk about how much is actually in my account at the moment
because this last week was bad. Well, I
have a spending problem, and I know it, so that's not.

>> Teacup (09:25):
It's not just you. We all do it. But,
like, you know, fortunately
for you, you still live at home.

>> Chip (09:32):
Mm But although I am, I
want to move out, you know?

>> Teacup (09:38):
Well, and that's the thing.

>> Chip (09:39):
How do you. So actually, here, then. How do you do that? So, like,
how do you,
like, How do you afford that kind of thing? How do you plan for
that kind of thing? Because that's a lot. Like, I started looking into
it, and I can't quite figure out, like,
the process there.

>> Teacup (09:56):
Well, for me, it was super easy.
Oh, I.
I was. I was drinking one
night when I was 17, having a
good old time with my brother. When we drove home
and everything was good made back.

(10:18):
But my. My brother would see my brother was stupid.
Instead of just going straight to his room, mind his own business, he decided
that he was gonna go and make something to eat and, you
know, do all this wazoo
stuff.

>> Chip (10:30):
Sorry. Taking mental notes real quick. Don't go get
something to eat. Go straight to bed.

>> Teacup (10:34):
Yeah, man. You don't announce, all
your wrongdoings. And that was an
easy way to announce it. The kitchen was closed.
The light was on. You know, the light over
the sink? That light was on. The kitchen was closed.
And this bastard goes in there. So my mother finds
out he's drunk. And she came in, and

(10:55):
I was in my bed, and she was, yelling at me. I
was like, oh, I don't know what's going on now. She goes, are you
drunk, too? I was shit faced.
And she started like, dude, she started
going to town. Just. I think
she. I think I got hit, like,
five or six times. Little fists of fury.

(11:17):
And, she kicked me out.
So
I went and lived with a friend for a little bit. So it was super easy for me,
you know, when you're thrust, you
know, at your own doing. Of course, you know, this is my own doing.
I was thrust out of my comfort.
But see, you're looking. You're looking to do it yourself.

>> Chip (11:37):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (11:38):
And so for me, you know,
I did. I had a job. I was working. and I went and
stayed with a friend for a little bit.
and then, you know,
I think I ended up going to Florida.
I stayed with my dad for a little bit in Florida,
and I was a car salesman and all that stuff. But anyways,

(11:59):
the point is, is
you have to save money.
And I think a lot of times, people don't
realize how much shit costs because you don't pay
for it now, you know, I mean, or if you do pay, you're.
You're paying a partial payment. If your parents
are making you do. I don't think your parents make you do that, right?

>> Chip (12:20):
Some of it. So, like, I bought so every
month for the things that, like, they get, right?
So grocery wise, I pay $70 a month to
try and help with a little bit with my part. But then I also,
like, I pre make lunches.

>> Teacup (12:33):
Look at you, dude. You are more than $70 a
month of food.

>> Chip (12:37):
Well, but here's the other thing. So I make my own,
like, lunches and other meals to take with me to
work or sometimes like that. I just. Because we'll have, like, leftover
nights or whatever where it's just whatever you want. so I make some of that
myself. And also, like, I. All the extra stuff
I buy for myself. like, I last, or I
didn't last weekend, but the weekend before, I did a big grocery

(12:58):
run myself. I'm going to
start paying rent. I forget what we agreed on, but it was
some percentage of whatever I. We were
paying for rent. so I started doing that to
help out. So, like, clothes and
stuff, that's on me. and I
actually kind of prefer that because I can I get to pick, like, what

(13:18):
I want, you know?

>> Teacup (13:19):
well, you're a grown man. You should be picking what you.

>> Chip (13:22):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (13:23):
Yeah. So,
you know what? It's a little weird if
I. If your mom still. I
mean, teach his own, I guess.

>> Chip (13:34):
Hey, mom, can I get these very specific
jeans, please?

>> Teacup (13:40):
There's. I mean, there's people that do it. I mean, teach his own.
I'm not gonna. Not. You know, what if I.
Listen, with the cost of clothing and everything,
if I could get my mother to still pay for my clothes.

>> Chip (13:51):
Nah. She was like, all Right, you're. When I turned 18, she was like,
all right, you're 18. This stuff's on you now. You're getting
paid. And I was like, cool. I'm cool
with it because. I was cool with it because. Also because she was.
She was very, I
guess, nice with it and was like, she didn't come and like,
Right. It's all on you now. She was like, all Right, hey, I know you

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want to go get this thing. I'm not going to pay for that. That's on you.
And then I had to really think. I was like, do I actually want it then? Do I
actually want to? Can I afford that? You know,
so.

>> Teacup (14:22):
And this is what we got to do, man. We got to realize that, like, we're not really
ballers. The only reason why you ball is cause you don't have to pay
rent. And rent is on
average. You know, all these analysts
and economists say that rent shouldn't be more than,
like, 25% of
your yearly. That's what I've heard, but
it's more than that. And I was talking to one of

(14:44):
our classmates. He was talking to,
He was talking to me about how he wanted to move out with his
girlfriend and everything. I tell
everybody this. I tell everybody the same thing when they. When they
say something crazy like this to me. You know, a young
person anyways, if.
Have you thought about the average

(15:05):
cost of rent where you want
to live? You know?
And he said, yeah, well,
we looked at it and I said, okay. I said, how much
money do you make a year? I said, you don't have to tell
me. Just, you know, the number.

>> Chip (15:22):
Mm

>> Teacup (15:22):
Because your rent in this area
is going to be like 40 grand a
year.

>> Chip (15:31):
Yeah, probably more than that.

>> Teacup (15:34):
there's some places you can, I mean, you're not going to enjoy those
places. And this is the thing, like, the.

>> Chip (15:38):
Apartments that are near, if you, our house are about, I think
they're about.

>> Teacup (15:42):
2000 if you, you got to do what you got to do. So
you might not always live in the best place, but that's, that's fine. Dude, you're
1920 years old. You belong in a,
in a shitty place, to be frank. That's where
you make shitty money. You live in a shitty place.

>> Chip (15:57):
I've actually, there's been, I've noticed it.

>> Teacup (15:59):
that's a driver that, like, if you don't
want to be in that location, that should be your driver.

>> Chip (16:05):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (16:05):
And this is what I'm telling you right now. You're talking about
upgrade in your car. That
logically makes no sense. And you're a logical person.

>> Chip (16:14):
Well, for me it does in a way, because I do load it down with
stuff. So I want to upgrade the suspension anyway. And
this goes into something else. So a lot of people,
especially my age and in my
generation, on the more older side of it,
have started doing things like living in vans and stuff because.

>> Teacup (16:32):
Yeah, but you're not living in that Subaru. Come on, dude.

>> Chip (16:35):
I could for a year. No, think about it. That would be a
super cool life for like a year or so. Travel
around the country, like, put a cool, like, have you seen these
rooftop tents?

>> Teacup (16:44):
You and I have different ideas of what
is cool.

>> Chip (16:48):
Oh, I would have so much fun. Go from here to Alaska
and back. Think about that. Like, go across. Go up
and, like, across through Texas and the west
and then go up California. I've heard a
big loop.

>> Teacup (17:00):
I've done a lot of this stuff already. I'm. Yeah, and that's why I'm
not interested, I suppose.

>> Chip (17:05):
See, but that Subaru, I could go and mod that thing out.
It'd be cool.

>> Teacup (17:09):
Yeah.

>> Chip (17:10):
But I'm also in a sweepstakes right now. I paid $25 for
a raffle ticket to get an advent of pre built,
mercedes. What are those called? Sprinter, van that's been
modified, as like a
giant.

>> Teacup (17:22):
I suppose that's an investment.

>> Chip (17:24):
Dude, it was $25. I had just gotten paid. When I saw
it, I was like, 25%.

>> Teacup (17:28):
I feel like you're not doing this Right. You
are not doing this Right.

>> Chip (17:33):
I will say, though, that would be a lot less than
25%. no, it's not, actually, when I think about how much I'm getting
paid right now. But the other thing is you can't really get paid
doing that.

>> Teacup (17:42):
No. You're talking about driving across country. What are you gonna do for it?
Driving across.

>> Chip (17:46):
Listen, people make YouTube channels.
I don't want to do that. I could write, though.

>> Teacup (17:52):
Yeah, but we're talking about
the average person
can't do this.

>> Chip (18:00):
People, dude, there are people. You can. Someone did
the math, and I wish I had the numbers in front of me for that,
but someone did the math on how much you can make on
YouTube, and you don't even have to be, like, wildly successful.
And it's enough to live on the road
easily and still be able to put money away,
because it doesn't. It doesn't. It costs
less to live on the road than it does to

(18:22):
live in a real house in most places in the
US.
Right? It's insane that you can live.

>> Teacup (18:31):
No, what's insane for everything, what's
insane is right
now, you are literally trying to
convince me that you
could turn that Subaru into a livable
space, that you drive across the country
for a year whilst

(18:51):
making money as a youtuber.

>> Chip (18:54):
Not me. I wouldn't. I don't think I'd be a.

>> Teacup (18:56):
No, no, no.

>> Chip (18:57):
But I could Right. I'd be a good writer, dude, put out a book.
That's passive income right there. I know about passive income.

>> Teacup (19:02):
If you're.

>> Chip (19:03):
Watch those YouTube. Financial.
and that's.

>> Teacup (19:07):
See, listen. And I wish all those great things for you. I wish.
I wish. I wish that you could put out a pamphlet or
a book or whatever you wanted to do,
and you would make all the money in the
world. Here's some facts for you, though.
Okay? you're right.
Now

(19:28):
the rent in your lifetime
is going to be around 230 grand.
You're talking about taking a year. You. You are talking
about taking a year away
from real potential
and earning to maybe

(19:50):
have a YouTube channel. Maybe. Maybe
it will be successful. Most aren't.

>> Chip (19:56):
I know, though, that for me, because
it would depend on the person, right? But for me, I think I could
do it.

>> Teacup (20:05):
And you'll, And what afterwards?

>> Chip (20:08):
Whatever I want, dude, I have. That's the thing. I also
went to a trade school, right? I have skills that
I can take anywhere in the world
and can have a job, a decently paying
job. I mean, think about it. I've taken
a marine class that not only taught me about
boats, but taught me about engines, which everything

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in the world runs on engines. while I was at it, I
learned carpentry, fiberglass work,
metal working, and then took a welding
class. that skill alone, I could work anywhere in the
world. So after I'm done, if I'm, you know,
after I'm globetrotting or whatever, doing
the fun stuff, Right, I could come back and be
like, all Right, now I can actually be,

(20:51):
a real adult.

>> Teacup (20:52):
How long would you globetrot? You say?
We've gotten way past
what we were.

>> Chip (21:00):
Doing, I feel like,
until I think the longest I could go would be about five
years before I'm like,
okay, I need a place permanent. But.

>> Teacup (21:12):
So five years of globetrotting, hold
on.

>> Chip (21:15):
Everything from driving, I learned how to sail in that time. Get
a sailboat, sail the world.

>> Teacup (21:22):
So globetrot for five years. Do all some kind of
jackassery,
come back, and what are you gonna do? You're gonna walk into a place and be
like, hey, five years ago, I, took a welding
class.

>> Chip (21:35):
Oh, nah. So while doing that, like, think about it. So my little
welding machine, have you seen it? It's tiny. So, like. And
I love doing it as a hobby, too. So I'd
be doing stuff while I'm on. because it's not like you're staying in one
place for a day, right? There are gonna be places, like, if you're trying to get
somewhere. But if I'm going, let's say, to Alaska,
again, it's the problem being it's so

(21:55):
expensive to live now
that.

>> Teacup (22:00):
It.

>> Chip (22:00):
Costs the same or less, to live on the road, going
places.

>> Teacup (22:04):
Can I ask you something?

>> Chip (22:05):
Sure.

>> Teacup (22:06):
How long do you want to live?

>> Chip (22:10):
That got deep really fast. I don't know.

>> Teacup (22:13):
I don't think it went that deep.

>> Chip (22:14):
I don't think it's about the length. I think it's about how much you do.

>> Teacup (22:16):
No, no, no. It is about the length. We're going to get into it,
bud. Answer the damn question. How long do
you plan on living?
And I think, you know, I don't know.

>> Chip (22:27):
I think maybe
I could see myself living to be about
60,
because I don't want to live a long time. I don't
like.

>> Teacup (22:40):
Well, as long you can make the thing, you can make the ending anytime. You
want, yeah, I. What?
But you're saying I don't want to.

>> Chip (22:47):
Live a long, boring Life. I would rather live a short,
interesting Life.

>> Teacup (22:52):
All right, so what are you anticipating that you're going to, like, die of
a heart attack or something? I'm not
saying, like, life expectancy
right now is, I think, 76 in the United States
or 75 for men.

>> Chip (23:05):
So the average Life, last time I read, the average Life
expectancy for my generation is
125 years old because of how
modern medicine has progressed.

>> Teacup (23:15):
That can't be accurate because nobody. That can't be a Life
expectancy because nobody has lived that long. And then, like, you would
need a large group of people to have lived that long to
become an expectancy. It's because we
expect so.
So she's.

>> Chip (23:33):
No, she, I'm just. This is not on the record. She just. I'm.

>> Producer (23:36):
Right, sorry, I'm just going to pop in here. And according to the new
daily, the members of Generation Z, the oldest of which are
now in their twenties, on average, are expected to live to
100 and beyond.

>> Chip (23:48):
We're expected to live a very long time.
And I, I don't want
to live, like, live with that number in my head
of, like, I want to live that long. Or I could see myself living that
long. I would rather, you know,
see the world. I'd rather do cool things in my
life. And then, because we

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don't know what's after.

>> Teacup (24:09):
Okay, let me ask you this.

>> Chip (24:10):
I want to get to that place.

>> Teacup (24:11):
I'm going to rephrase this question. But, you
know, because worry, we're saying Life expectancy,
we expect these people to live until they're 100. I don't see that
happening because cancer rates in this
country, amongst young people, has grown exponentially
and more people are dying from these cancers
than surviving them. Then we also have to think

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that we're not
outpacing replacement, anymore.
So I don't know who's going to be the young doctor
that's saving your Life to 100.

>> Chip (24:45):
It's more the fact that we
can keep people on, like, life support.

>> Teacup (24:51):
Well, that doesn't sound. That's exactly. I said, how long do
you want to live?

>> Chip (24:56):
I don't have a number.

>> Teacup (24:57):
I think. I think, like, when you're all old and
can't hardly move, I mean, you're.

>> Chip (25:02):
Not really the point, right?

>> Teacup (25:03):
You're not really living, but you're still alive. You're
going to have to pay for that Life, though. So
whether or not I don't want.

>> Chip (25:10):
To, I don't if I get to that point,
though, I don't want that. I don't want
to because that's not
living. So surviving.

>> Teacup (25:20):
So what are we saying? We're going to commit suicide at that point?

>> Chip (25:23):
If I get to the point of basically being a vegetable, that's not
vegetable or not vegetable, but, like, I'm not
able to basically
live on my own. I'm not able to support
myself. then you're not living
anymore. You know, you're just
existing.

>> Teacup (25:40):
You know, it's interesting about this. Hmm?
Because you're young, you really
haven't experienced, like, death, really.
And so, like,

>> Chip (25:50):
Hold on. So it's not true.

>> Teacup (25:52):
So. So it's easy because you're young, you
can't see this.

>> Chip (25:56):
So let me give you some backstory on me real
quick. When I was in middle school and high
school, mostly middle school,
in a span of about a year, two years,
really, I lost my
grandfather, who was very close to live just
down the road, lost,
my aunt, and my uncle, both,

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you know, same, both of which were
cancer.

>> Teacup (26:22):
So they were probably fairly young.

>> Chip (26:24):
Yes.

>> Teacup (26:25):
How old were they?

>> Chip (26:26):
About 45.

>> Teacup (26:27):
Okay.

>> Chip (26:27):
My grandfather had Parkinson's. he
was.

>> Teacup (26:33):
How old was he?

>> Chip (26:34):
He was 80 something.

>> Teacup (26:35):
Okay.

>> Chip (26:35):
I feel bad that I don't remember, but, which
I also saw how long they were able to keep him going,
and it was towards the end, he wasn't
living.

>> Teacup (26:45):
All right, so 80 something and same.

>> Chip (26:47):
Thing with,
with my aunt and my uncle.
Meanwhile, while this is happening, one of my friends, or a
couple years later, one of my friends committed suicide,
and then another one,
relatively recently, died in a motorcycle crash.

>> Teacup (27:06):
All right.

>> Chip (27:06):
I know a lot about.

>> Teacup (27:07):
So we have.

>> Chip (27:08):
I understand death.

>> Teacup (27:09):
So we have a bunch of
expected deaths, right. Which I think
we can cope with.

>> Chip (27:17):
I wouldn't say expected, because one of them that had
cancer was also murdered. So.

>> Teacup (27:24):
Yeah, I'm familiar with this story now.

>> Chip (27:26):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (27:27):
Listen, you're not gonna break
me, okay? I'm not gonna sit here. I'm not
gonna sit here.
Listen, I'm gonna tell you expected deaths versus
sudden deaths, unexpected deaths that, you
know, for a young person wasn't supposed
to happen. I think. I think as
you start to get older, I think you're gonna

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appreciate Life a little more, and you'll want
to have that part of that life, like so.

>> Chip (27:56):
But is that life when you get old?

>> Teacup (27:58):
Of course it is. That's. That's insanity. But that's.
Young people talk right there, cuz I would say the same dumb
shit.

>> Chip (28:04):
So you. You would for real? If, like, if you got to the point
where all you can do all.

>> Teacup (28:08):
Day is, dude, I told, I told my medic. I
told my medic, if I lose
a leg, we can save me.
If I lose an arm, let me
go.

>> Chip (28:21):
Oh, no, I totally want to lose a leg. I want to have a peg leg.

>> Teacup (28:23):
But here's the thing.

>> Chip (28:24):
Do I get the springy legs like they got in the. In the Olympics? You
know, honestly, if I lost one leg, I'd want them to cut the other one
off. So it matches.

>> Teacup (28:31):
That guy killed his girlfriend.

>> Chip (28:33):
Who are we talking about?
What?

>> Teacup (28:37):
I was talking about Oscar Pistorius.

>> Chip (28:41):
Never heard that name in my Life.

>> Teacup (28:42):
He's the springy leg guy from the Olympics.

>> Chip (28:44):
They all have springy legs.

>> Teacup (28:45):
Oh, you're talking about the Special Olympics.

>> Chip (28:47):
Yeah, yeah.

>> Teacup (28:48):
They all don't have springy legs like the runners.

>> Chip (28:50):
They get the little spring leg.

>> Teacup (28:52):
Some of them do. The ones that are missing legs that have spring
legs.

>> Chip (28:55):
Yeah, but they all are, like, in the thing together, they get the springy
legs.

>> Teacup (28:59):
You're painting with a broad brush hair, son.

>> Chip (29:02):
I mean, there's also a lot of. You gotta paint with broad brush when there's so many
people doing it, you know? But I would totally have a spring. I'd have a
peg leg.

>> Teacup (29:08):
So Oscar Pistorius was an Olympic athlete
who had springy legs
and murdered his girlfriend. He was
from South Africa. I think he just got released from
prison.

>> Chip (29:22):
Yeah, I'm getting a nod from the
director, I think.

>> Teacup (29:26):
Yeah, so sorry.

>> Chip (29:27):
Producer. Producer.

>> Teacup (29:29):
Anyways, so
your experiences with the. This
are gonna be different. And to, like,
if you ask your grandfather, if you could ask your
grandfather if when he was
80 and still of
solid mind, and I don't know if he was.

>> Chip (29:50):
I don't know how he was there.

>> Teacup (29:51):
Okay, so it was sharp, right? So
are you telling me, he was sharp with his mind,
but I bet you slow as hell he couldn't move.
Yeah, you telling me he. He
obviously felt Life was worth living. When we get
to that point, you'll change your tune.
Anyways,

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if you. If you say, hey, I'm gonna probably live until I'm
about 80. Okay, well, you have to
live, so you gotta eat, right, you
gotta pay for a roof over your head.
and, you know, the way it looks right now, we might not have Social
Security at that point. So you got
a plan right now, what you're talking about
doing is going on. And I know

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a lot of people in your generation are doing this. They take this time, they
go, they gotta go find themselves.

>> Chip (30:51):
While you're able bodied.

>> Teacup (30:52):
While you're able bodied. And I love it. I
love the idea of traveling. I've been to a lot of places.
I've met a lot of different kinds of people. I love eating food from
all different kinds of places and stuff.
The thing is, is at some
point, you have to get your shit
together and start a career because you're going to have

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to pay when you're 80. Now, if you're talking about going
on a five year expedition and you say you
want to come back and like,
at that point, you're way behind
the curve, like, if you would have
just stayed put and worked,
you would probably be able to afford a house or a

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condo or something. And then you have property.

>> Chip (31:36):
But then that depends, because to
me, I would rather,
and again, this is just like this. Me
and a lot of other people, my, age
group, I would rather
have that experience now because again,
like, my, my buddy that died in a motorcycle accident, he

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was in his twenties.

>> Teacup (31:59):
Yeah.

>> Chip (31:59):
And, I'm like, it was just out of nowhere.
I'm like, that kind of stuff can happen
to anybody. And I would rather,
you know, have that, that lore, right? Have that,
that do the cool stuff. and then, you know, you
get later in Life, like, have the stuff that's worth
if you had to Right a book about yourself.
Right? Make that book good,

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don't, you know? I don't want my book.

>> Teacup (32:25):
Do you think, do you think your friend who's riding his motorcycle and
passed away, do you think, like, he wasn't living his best life?

>> Chip (32:31):
I think that he, he was riding.

>> Teacup (32:33):
A motorcycle, what he wanted.

>> Chip (32:35):
Yeah. I don't think he was happy. Yeah.
M from. For what he
wanted out of Life.

>> Teacup (32:42):
So I think I'm, Yeah, but you used him as an
example for why you need to go do
something extreme.
Yeah, see, but you said five years. I don't. You're really not gonna
do that for five years? I think that's insane. Right?

>> Chip (32:55):
Yeah, that's stretching it.

>> Teacup (32:57):
Okay. All right.

>> Chip (32:58):
But like a year or two.

>> Teacup (33:00):
Listen, I'm a fan of this,
but what's going to end up happening
is when you come back,
you're kind of behind the curve. Some
people, your peer group, know, and
there's nothing really wrong with that.

>> Chip (33:16):
I don't know. Not really, because think about some of
the guys that are in our class. You know, like,
one of them, he's, 21,
22. The one that isn't there
anymore. He's 21. Like, you
know, some of those guys were even older than that.
I'll be. I'll be cool. I'm 19. You know, I'm not
even close to that. Heck,

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how can I say this? The one that has the blue f 150,
he's 20. You know, I would be
20. And,

>> Producer (33:49):
Generation z thing that you're talking about, and you need to highlight
that.

>> Chip (33:55):
What's the generation z thing that we're.

>> Producer (33:57):
The paradigm that he's talking about. What
he's presenting to you is a paradigm that is
true for every single generation until yours, that
there is a path that you follow, and
if you get off of it and come back to it, you're gonna be behind.
But you guys don't have a path. You're the first
generation that doesn't. That's what's in the information in front of

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you. You're the first one that's like, fuck.

>> Teacup (34:20):
It, we're just gonna. No, they have a path.
The path is just harder because
things cost more and. But it. The
pay doesn't reflect what things
cost. So, like, all
of rent's gone up, the price of
clothes has gone up.

>> Chip (34:39):
I mean, these jeans were 50, bucks a pair when
I think you told me, mom, like, like in the eighties,
they would be worth. Yeah, about 2020. $5.
You Right, you
$50 for these?

>> Teacup (34:52):
You bought the car. I don't know how much you paid.

>> Chip (34:54):
For the car, but about 18 grand.

>> Teacup (34:56):
that wasn't your old.

>> Chip (34:58):
It's ten years old and it's only got 50,000 miles on it.

>> Teacup (35:00):
Yeah.

>> Chip (35:01):
So it was a really good deal. But I mean, I'll start.
I was looking at trucks before, which is really bad
because a truck. What was that one
we looked at? We went to a dealership, actually, and went and looked at a couple.

>> Teacup (35:12):
How many miles are on it?

>> Chip (35:13):
Mine? Yeah, 50.
5018.

>> Teacup (35:17):
That's not bad.

>> Chip (35:19):
No, not at all.

>> Teacup (35:20):
But like, you listen, look at the
price of things, okay? You
were. So instead of
like 19, stay here, stay with your
folks, throw them a little money,
because I wish I would have done this.
Invest, some money,
right? Get with a financial advisor or something. We shouldn't have

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one. Come here and talk to us.

>> Chip (35:45):
That'd be cool.

>> Teacup (35:46):
Anyways, get with a financial advisor
and invest monies so that you can buy
property. Here's the thing, dude,
all this traveling and stuff, you can do
this whenever you can't, though.
Yeah, you can.

>> Chip (36:01):
Because to do the kinds of things that I want to do,
you can't.

>> Teacup (36:05):
Go for a year and just be like, you know what? Screw it. I'm
done. But
when you're, like, 30, if you.

>> Chip (36:12):
Build a family, couldn't I do it right now?

>> Teacup (36:15):
I mean, I'm saying you could, but it's
gonna. It's gonna be a shitty trip, dude. You're broke.

>> Chip (36:21):
What if. I don't know, because I also.
I know.

>> Teacup (36:27):
I feel like I'm back in the seventies watching people thumb for a
ride or something. Like, you guys are going to
a groovy concert. You're gonna thumb a thumb your
way all the way.

>> Chip (36:36):
It's the same.

>> Teacup (36:37):
How are you gonna get gas, dude.

>> Chip (36:39):
I've already told you. That's how I'm going to Right. I can. There's
so.

>> Teacup (36:43):
I feel like a boomer right now.
You gonna use your. Your YouTube channel? Get
money? That's stupid.

>> Chip (36:50):
M money off TikTok. People will pay. No lie. You could have
a TikTok channel and have a Patreon, and people
will just give you money because they like seeing you
do this trip, because they live vicariously through
you, because they are scared or not scared,
but either they're scared or they can't do it.

>> Teacup (37:07):
Well, if those.

>> Chip (37:08):
Or they're told that they need to
follow that set path and they can't do it,
I feel like they can't do it.

>> Teacup (37:15):
I hope that the people
that pay the other
people to go on these vacations and they're living
vicariously through them. I hope that they
listen to this show, and I hope they stop doing
that, and they take that money that they're giving to other people for their
fucking trips, and they save it and put it into an

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account and get their own goddamn trips.
This. That is insane to me,
that. That you would give money that you work your
ass off for. You don't have a lot of it. I saw a
commercial for a
company that
is online. I can't remember the name of the
company, and I don't know if I want to, but

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you go on there, and the girl was, like, in her
closet, pointing at things, at her
clothes and her bags and her hat and all her
bullshit, and she's like, that's going to a
new dress that's going
out for clubbing, that's for rent. And I'm
like. And, I said to my wife, I'm like, people
are selling their shit to pay their

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rent and go clubbing.
Insanity.
That's insane.

>> Chip (38:29):
I mean, I wanted to get a new thing for my
kayak, and I was I have
some pretty
valuable stuff from a sport I used
to play. I would like to play, but I was looking at this
stuff going, like, that's still worth money now. And I was like, do I want to
sell it? No, but I'm down to sell it because
I can't make enough money to buy this thing.

>> Teacup (38:51):
You can make them. See, this is the,
This is the other problem with this generation. You guys have to have it right now,
right this second.

>> Chip (38:58):
No, I mean, m. Okay, so you.

>> Teacup (39:00):
Said I don't have enough money. You gotta save money, dude.

>> Chip (39:03):
I'm trying to think of how to say this without being revealing too
much. If I make
x amount of dollars per week. Cause I get paid weekly.

>> Teacup (39:11):
Yeah.

>> Chip (39:11):
Pretty, awesome. By the way, most. Most of our guys get paid. Most
of, like, our friends get paid biweekly. Getting paid weekly is
awesome.

>> Teacup (39:18):
Is, it.

>> Chip (39:19):
Yes.

>> Teacup (39:20):
Okay. I mean. I mean, I think it's
perspective, but makes.

>> Chip (39:24):
It. Makes m doing my finances a little
easier, I guess, in my head, when I know, like, I'm gonna have this much
coming on. Dude, I was every week.

>> Teacup (39:31):
yeah.

>> Chip (39:32):
but I was in the military.

>> Teacup (39:33):
It was bi weekly. I love bi weekly, but, I mean, perspective, it's
just confusing.

>> Chip (39:37):
Why does it have to. Why you can't pay me every week? If you
can't pay me every week, then maybe you shouldn't be in business, bro.
If we're worried that much about when you can pay
me, maybe we're not making enough money, which we can fix
that. We can work together. That's why you. What's why you pay me? You pay me
to make you more money. But if you can't pay me, then maybe it's a
problem.

>> Teacup (39:59):
I don't even know what to say. M I'm
just enjoying.

>> Producer (40:03):
Can I pop in here and tell you guys a couple of things?

>> Teacup (40:05):
I would love to hear a couple things.

>> Producer (40:06):
This is gonna blow Teacup's mind. He's about to go off. Are you
ready? As of January
2024, the monthly
payouts on Patreon of people who are
just supporting people
creators who are on Patreon
monthly. $23.6
million.

>> Teacup (40:25):
Wait a second. These are people that just give
people money?

>> Chip (40:29):
Yeah, well, I've done it, actually, for.

>> Producer (40:31):
Except as an artist. You are supporting content
creators. It's just. It's like. It's like artists
in Italy, back in the day, in Renaissance, they. They had
a supporter. They had a patron who paid for
their life so they could create their art. That's what Patreon is. And I
just want to say one more thing, and I'm gonna get out of y'all's conversation.

>> Teacup (40:47):
This is 23 million a month.

>> Producer (40:49):
Yes.

>> Teacup (40:50):
What do these people do? Do I gotta like, do I gotta,
like, you know, they type in, hey, Stan, like this,
and I stand like that and.

>> Chip (40:57):
No, it's. If, like, for instance, there's.

>> Teacup (41:00):
Do they want my feet or something? What?

>> Chip (41:01):
No, that's a. That's feet finder. That's a whole different thing.
that's. You're buying a product, not a service in this place. In this case, you're
buying a service. Right. You are helping. You
are helping a person who
you're basically paying for the person
to be able to make the content that you like to watch
or that you enjoy.

>> Producer (41:21):
And people earn, on average, $315 to
$1,575 a month each creator
on Patreon.

>> Chip (41:28):
I live on the road.

>> Teacup (41:29):
You said you had one more thing. What was the other thing?

>> Producer (41:32):
That was it. That was the other,

>> Chip (41:33):
So with. With that kind of, you know, fifteen
hundred dollars to three hundred dollars a month off
Patreon, that kind of thing.

>> Teacup (41:41):
how many people are on this?

>> Chip (41:44):
How millions of people.

>> Teacup (41:46):
So millions of people are splitting $23
million a month?

>> Chip (41:51):
Sort of. Because you're only. Because
you're only, you know, you might only give $5. You might only
give, you know, however much. You know,
how the number of creators.

>> Producer (42:01):
Of February 2024 on Patreon, Washington,
242,878.

>> Chip (42:06):
We're talking about how many people are giving, though.

>> Producer (42:08):
That's how many creators. You wanna know how many supporters there
are?

>> Chip (42:11):
Yeah.

>> Producer (42:12):
Well, I guess since 2022, there were 8 million.

>> Chip (42:16):
So, like, there's a YouTube channel that I watch
that it's these. This couple that sales the world.

>> Teacup (42:22):
That is depressing.

>> Chip (42:24):
So they sell.

>> Teacup (42:25):
This is depressing.

>> Chip (42:26):
They make a little bit of money off YouTube, and they actually broke down their finances
in a video, that I watched, where they make
more money off of Patreon than they do actually making
YouTube. like, making the videos.
so basically, they end up using the
YouTube money to do repairs and stuff on the boat. The things
that, you know, happen every once in a while, you know, replacing a

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build.

>> Teacup (42:47):
All these people do is sail around all day.

>> Chip (42:50):
They sail to exotic locations. They actually, right now,
they're planning a trip through the northwest passage,
which, because now we're coming into summer,
and people have been giving the money because they're prepping the
boat. They did a partial re rig. It's,
a big sailboat. It's like a 42 foot sailboat,
partial, re rig. There was something up with their engines they

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needed to pay for. And they just say that in the
video, they're like, if you can support through Patreon so that we can fix this,
and lo and beholden, people watch the video, and they're like, yeah, I
can. You know, I can spend $5 or whatever.
And when enough people do that, you know, you have enough money
to fix your engine. You have enough.

>> Teacup (43:28):
So they got on Patreon, Right? Am I saying
that Right? Patreon?

>> Chip (43:33):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (43:33):
They got on there. They convinced a
bunch of people to buy them a boat.

>> Chip (43:39):
Not a boat, by parts for the boat, but, yeah.

>> Teacup (43:41):
Where did they get the boat? They had to have a boat,
right.

>> Chip (43:45):
They bought the boat really cheap years ago,
and it was in disrepair, and part of their channel
was building the boat. People wanted to watch them
restore this old boats in 1978,
model your boat. So
they filmed the videos as they're fixing
things up and talking about how they're doing it, and people are learning
off of it, too. actually, when I was watching one

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of their videos, and really watching.

>> Teacup (44:09):
Them a lot, and you said you paid people on this
thing.

>> Chip (44:13):
I have. I've supported. Listen to Patreon.

>> Teacup (44:15):
I'm gonna tell you right now this, though. You ever bitch to me about
having money issues or I'm broke or any of
this dumbass jackassery ever again, and then you
come and tell me that you're giving money.

>> Chip (44:26):
It wasn't to them.

>> Teacup (44:27):
I don't give a shit who it was to.

>> Chip (44:29):
I think you would.

>> Teacup (44:30):
Oh, God. All right. Now I'm interested.

>> Chip (44:32):
It was to a unit in Ukraine that my buddies in.

>> Teacup (44:35):
Okay, that's,

>> Chip (44:36):
They were about. They were about to go on an offensive, and they were.

>> Teacup (44:39):
All right, this is. That's different.

>> Chip (44:41):
But it's the same platform.

>> Teacup (44:43):
No. Okay.

>> Chip (44:44):
It was on the same.

>> Teacup (44:45):
That's righteous.
Okay, so you're giving.

>> Chip (44:50):
No, it's not righteous to help someone.

>> Teacup (44:52):
It is not righteous to send somebody on a vacation that you long
to do but say to yourself, you
can't.

>> Chip (44:59):
No, I know that I can do it, just not yet. And I'm willing
to.

>> Teacup (45:02):
Oh, you'll never be able to do it because you keep giving money to the wrong people. You
gotta give money to yourself.

>> Chip (45:06):
No, I would give them money because I'm also learning from them and
learning how they're doing it. So if I can sit
there and absorb that, a lot of the stuff that I know about living on the road,
living an adventurous kind of life like that. I know
from watching these creators.

>> Teacup (45:19):
Yeah.

>> Chip (45:20):
So I see it as, you know, you're paying
$5 or whatever, which you don't even have to. It's. You can get it all for
free, but you're.
You're.

>> Teacup (45:29):
I'm not going out of. I am kind of hating on
them. You know, I. I just don't
understand.
Listen, I grew up fucking poor as fuck,
okay? So it's hard for
me to rationalize
giving somebody money to live
a life that you wish you could in fact

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live. And then I give at the
same time. Hold on. At the same time.
Say, man, everything's so expensive these
days. A gallon of milk is
$5, a loaf of bread is
$4. It used to be fifty cents. And
you hear all these boomers talking all that dumb shit.

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And then.

>> Chip (46:12):
But bought their house for a
handshake. Seven raspberries, one, dollar or
a two dollar bill. And, And
a word of recommendation to, I don't know, the pastor or
something that was probably.

>> Teacup (46:26):
No, they probably paid like, five or six grand for their
house, maybe ten.

>> Chip (46:30):
They bought their. They bought their house for
what I spent on restoring my old car.

>> Producer (46:37):
As your producer, I really just want to point out and make sure
that the lovely teacup is aware that some podcast
shows are paid for by their.

>> Chip (46:45):
Patreon subscribers, which I thought we were gonna have.

>> Producer (46:48):
There's one in particular that gets
$111,403 a
month from their subscribers.

>> Chip (46:53):
A month? Oh, my.

>> Producer (46:57):
So I don't know. Maybe just
don't hate on Patreon.

>> Teacup (47:01):
You wanna take all that out, Right?

>> Producer (47:05):
Hey, one c here. Producer for teacup talks. Keep the
show playing, but head on over to Patreon, too, where you'll find
a couple membership levels, including ways to get the show
early and ad free and find teacup
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in this episode's description. And now back to the
show.

>> Chip (47:24):
So anyways, guys,
definitely gonna have.

>> Teacup (47:29):
Listen, Patreon is the way to go.
Support our artists. They're trying
to entertain
and be able to bring joy to our lives.

>> Chip (47:41):
And inform. Don't forget inform and educate.

>> Teacup (47:44):
Yeah, whatever, dude. Just make
sure Patreon stays around.
Keep putting your. Your stuff out there. We love it.
We love it.

>> Chip (47:54):
Don't mind him. He's. He's. He's a little old fashioned.

>> Teacup (47:58):
Old fashioned. I'm, Yeah, listen, it's not that I'm m
old fashioned, man. Well, yeah, I kind of am. But
like, when, if you
grew up with nothing, right,
you want to, you would want to
keep and try to grow whatever it is you
have. So for me, for me, what you're

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saying right now is some, like,
first world white privilege
shit. And I'm,

>> Chip (48:25):
Okay, I'm gonna tell you something funny.

>> Teacup (48:27):
And I don't hold, on because I said that. And I don't
wanna do a controversy here that I'm not trying to get
all into a debate about privilege and all this shit.
But what I'm saying is, it is
hard for me to hear. Like, listen,
dude, my mom used to keep
a jar. She called it her runaway fund. It was a jar
of pennies, dude.

>> Chip (48:49):
Of pennies?

>> Teacup (48:50):
Yeah, pennies, dude.

>> Chip (48:54):
Like, just pennies.

>> Teacup (48:55):
Listen, my poor mother, we'd sit there and we'd roll these
pennies so she could take them to the bank and get money so she could
buy us food. And you're over here. This is why it's hard for
me to understand. Like, I want to go on a
trip for a year or two and find myself,
bitch, find yourself at the goddamn boathouse or wherever the hell you
work. That's where you find yourself.

>> Chip (49:15):
It isn't though, because I,
I, and I don't.

>> Teacup (49:21):
I say that with all the love.

>> Chip (49:22):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (49:22):
Yeah.

>> Chip (49:23):
So for me, and again, it
fully is dependent on the person. But for me
and a lot of other people in my generation,
we've watched you guys and we've
watched the boomers grow up and just be in that
one lane, you know,
when now, you know, there's
been some road work done.

>> Teacup (49:43):
how old am I?

>> Chip (49:44):
I have no idea. You're four. Oh, yes,
I do. You're 39.

>> Teacup (49:49):
39.

>> Chip (49:50):
Cause you say if I was 40.

>> Teacup (49:56):
That'S it.

>> Chip (49:58):
Notice I didn't finish that.

>> Teacup (49:59):
Yeah. Thank you. My wife's gonna listen.
So
I have lived a pretty cool life.
I've, I've been working since I was twelve.
You know, little jobs, trying to get as much money as I
can all the time, just always trying to get money.
And, I've gotten it to where I'm at a

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point, you see, I don't even, I don't even,
I don't even really work.

>> Chip (50:24):
You've told me before, you're like, I have no idea how much money I really
have.

>> Teacup (50:27):
I don't know. I don't. Well, that's only because my
wife takes care of all that stuff. And it's just,
it's easier for me
and probably her. Like, I don't have my hand it, you
know, I mean, I don't have my hand in it.

>> Chip (50:41):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (50:41):
So there's no, like, gone
doing this
teacup. You get that one.

>> Chip (50:49):
We can. We. Okay. We should make it. Like we should. We should make a sound.
Cuz you know how some, like, youtubers have like a dolphin
sound or something whenever you say something is you're not supposed to.
Yep. We should. We should have that. We make it be
something anyway.

>> Teacup (51:02):
Old teak.

>> Chip (51:03):
A duck. Like the ring. Not.
Not the sound I meant, you know, the rubber ducky noise
that, like when you
squeeze a rubber ducky. We should be. That.

>> Teacup (51:15):
I listen. So we
invest when you have money,
right? And you see me, I'm pretty much doing what I want,
man.

>> Chip (51:23):
Mmm.

>> Teacup (51:24):
M within reason.
So, like, what I want to. And this is why
you have to know what you want to do. You don't even know what you want to do yet.

>> Chip (51:33):
I know what I want to do right now.

>> Teacup (51:34):
Yeah.

>> Chip (51:34):
I don't know what I'm going to want to do later.

>> Teacup (51:37):
But listen, man, English. This is the thing that we have to
think about. And this is what I'm a little worried for you,
honestly, the whole generation. Honestly, because
we're screwed. No, no, you're not screwed.
No. You guys see your parents
and your grandparents bust their nuts
working their asses off and struggling,

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right?

>> Chip (51:58):
You guys did all that and then.

>> Teacup (52:00):
For anything, and you say for nothing.

>> Chip (52:02):
Yeah, because, like, you look at a lot of people and you look
at, like, what did they do in their life? Right? Like, and they didn't
do anything. They. They started working it.

>> Teacup (52:11):
Man, that's cold blooded.

>> Chip (52:12):
1214.

>> Teacup (52:13):
That's cold blooded. They didn't do anything.

>> Chip (52:16):
But think about it. Now.

>> Teacup (52:17):
I am thinking about it. You said they didn't do anything. They did everything they
wanted to do.

>> Chip (52:22):
No, they didn't, though. Because if you really ask them, you go, what did you want to
do? And they'll be like, oh, I wish I could have done this. Well, something I
wish I could have done. Wish I could have done. And they couldn't.
Because they saw that. That
line. They saw the world as a static
object. And it was one. There was
one option of what? you go to school,
you get a job, you buy a house, you build a

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family, you live that structured Life.
And we see that and we go, no, because
you did all of that. And for what?
You saw nothing. You didn't move outside your town. Or maybe
you did, but you didn't. You didn't do
anything. You did no one's going, you
had no significant

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impact. You had no nothing, you
know, and we look at that, we go, no, we want to do the cool
stuff. We want to go see the world that we live in. There are people
in this, in this country.

>> Teacup (53:16):
So that's where I'm scary.

>> Chip (53:19):
There are people from the town that I'm from that have
literally never left that town. That that town
is only a few square miles. They've never
left. They grew up, they went to
high.

>> Teacup (53:31):
Mm

>> Chip (53:31):
They went to high school. They went to college in that town.
They got out of college, they bought a house in that
town, they married someone that they went to high school
with, and they live in that town.
They have kids who do the exact same thing.

>> Teacup (53:45):
What's wrong with that?

>> Chip (53:46):
They never leave.

>> Teacup (53:47):
What's wrong with that?

>> Chip (53:49):
That's not a life.

>> Teacup (53:50):
It sure is. It's not, your life.
You don't want to do that. But there are people that want to do
that.

>> Chip (53:58):
People used to live lives. Let's talk.
Let's think about this.
Let's think back to
18 hundreds. Okay? 18 hundreds,
America. Okay?
People lived.
And I know you're gonna have a comeback to this.

>> Teacup (54:19):
I'm probably gonna.

>> Chip (54:20):
More interesting lives than they do now.
People didn't.

>> Teacup (54:23):
What the hell does that mean? Are you
saying because I got on a train and rode out
west?

>> Chip (54:30):
No, I'm saying that they, even with the
jobs that they did, they did
things that mattered. You didn't have people
doing dead end jobs that did nothing
because everything was needed. You didn't have, you
know, you didn't come home from, from work and look at your
phone or watch tv or whatever. You came home from work and

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you spent time with your friends, your family, you cooked, you did
things. And that's the kind
of life that my generation
wants to lead. That doesn't mean that we're not willing to struggle, because
obviously those people.

>> Teacup (55:03):
Oh, no, no. You know, you guys are willing to struggle because
you guys want to take like, sabbatical and
for five years. And so you guys are
super willing to struggle. And I like that about
you, but.

>> Chip (55:15):
We don't want to live.

>> Teacup (55:16):
My generation's gonna make so much money off you fuckers.
You guys are just gonna, you guys are just gonna give it
to us.

>> Chip (55:28):
To be fair, you guys also gave it to the boomers despite not
wanting to. They just made you, they got in
government. We're just like, here, give it.

>> Teacup (55:36):
Yeah.

>> Chip (55:36):
Or you go to jail.

>> Teacup (55:37):
We're gonna. My generations, our time's coming. We're
gonna, we're gonna be shining so bright.

>> Chip (55:43):
You guys also didn't, like, fight for stuff. You guys were kind of like,
nah, nah, not like that. Not like
that. You. Not like that.

>> Teacup (55:52):
You did rethink,
rethink, rethink your comments.

>> Chip (55:57):
Let me put it, that didn't sound
okay for anyone that knows what I actually meant.
I wish we had a comment section because you could put it
better in written words.

>> Teacup (56:07):
How about this? How about you develop a comment
section and you
can, update your own bullshit.

>> Chip (56:17):
You fought. To be fair, my generation is also now fighting
a war against a superpower. So I'm just talking
about who has the cooler war now. Just
saying.

>> Teacup (56:25):
Oh, my fucking God. First off, your. Your generation
of who? Americans?

>> Chip (56:32):
some.

>> Teacup (56:32):
Yeah, there's no Americans over there fighting.

>> Chip (56:35):
Oh, yeah, there are.

>> Teacup (56:36):
There are now.

>> Chip (56:37):
We had a unit leave from this, from. It was a
collier county unit, a bunch of volunteers that went
in and mostly of veterans went over there.

>> Teacup (56:45):
Oh, you're talking about on their own volition.

>> Chip (56:48):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (56:48):
Not supported by the government.

>> Chip (56:51):
Yeah, yeah.

>> Teacup (56:52):
I know, I know, I know. People that have done it.

>> Chip (56:56):
no, but, like, my friend that's over there that I was telling you about
that I donated to. He actually, this is the friend I also told you got
shot in the butt.

>> Teacup (57:02):
Yeah.

>> Chip (57:03):
Which he still. He's thinking about getting a tattoo
now of, that has, like, a heart. It's because
it's on his.

>> Teacup (57:09):
I want to go back to something.

>> Chip (57:11):
Real quick because he's 22.

>> Teacup (57:14):
Yeah.

>> Chip (57:17):
I'm listening.

>> Teacup (57:19):
You said something earlier that kind of, like,
kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

>> Chip (57:25):
I say a lot of things.

>> Teacup (57:27):
Usually it doesn't rub me the wrong way, though, because you said, what
did those people back in the previous generations, they
stayed at their house and they. What did they live for? What were they
doing? Well, some of those people
lived for, I don't know, people like your mom. Some
of those people live for people like you, you know? So
you are

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the thing that
somebody did. So previous
generations, I try to think about it like this because,
like, I grew up super poor and my mom
had the worst life, probably, you know, I'm
saying that, but it's probably not true. But she
didn't get to enjoy her life. You know, she's exactly what you're

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describing, and.
But if I ask her if she
enjoys, she would say yes. Yeah. I have my sons. I got
brothers. I got my three sons. And
I had a good life. It was good. So
so what did we build? What did we. What did we make?
What did we put our name on it? You're looking

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for glory. You're looking to be remembered through
time.

>> Chip (58:32):
No, I wouldn't say that.

>> Teacup (58:34):
It's kind of sounded like it. But here's the thing.
The only way that you're gonna be remembered through time, and it's only gonna
be probably, like a hundred years, maybe, is if you have kids, but,
maybe longer, because your kids are probably
gonna live to 200. I would.

>> Chip (58:49):
I don't wish that on anybody. 200? Can we talk about
that there? They would live as long as. Well,
almost as long as this country's been
around.

>> Teacup (58:58):
Say, I don't buy this whole 125 thing.
You know what? Ah, I'm.

>> Chip (59:03):
I mean, think about it. We have people routinely living to eighties
and nineties now. Hey, one of my
family members is 103, and she's
105. Sorry, 105.
And she's. She shows no
signs of slowing down. That woman, I'm pretty
sure she's like a demigod or something, I'm telling you right now.

>> Teacup (59:23):
Demigoddess. Listen, I, asked you that
question. How long do you plan on living for? Because, like, you
got to pay to live that long unless you
euthanasia or something. But, like, you don't strike
me as a person that could probably do that to yourself.
So. So
I don't. You got to pay to

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live.

>> Chip (59:45):
I don't know. Because I also look at it and I go, with the kind of
life that you want to live and your generation.

>> Teacup (59:51):
Right. part of my generation are
canceling. You're canceling your parents right
now? Some of them, you know, and so,
like, I mean, I wonder if these parents are going to give you
their houses that they paid five grand for
or ten.

>> Chip (01:00:06):
I don't need it, bro. I'm going to live in my car.

>> Teacup (01:00:08):
Yeah, well, everybody but you, I know you're
going to live in your car down by the river, Right?

>> Chip (01:00:14):
River? Nah, try in the mountains. Dude.

>> Teacup (01:00:16):
Did you don't ever intend on, like, getting married and have kids?

>> Chip (01:00:19):
No, not with.

>> Teacup (01:00:20):
Not even get married. Not even get married.

>> Chip (01:00:22):
Not within the next five years?

>> Teacup (01:00:25):
We're gonna have to look this up.

>> Chip (01:00:26):
We. 24.

>> Teacup (01:00:29):
I think.

>> Chip (01:00:30):
I think my mom got married at 24. Now I think about
it. Sorry, 25.

>> Teacup (01:00:36):
There was a study
done that said something about, you know, how
did. They were trying to determine what. What creates
poverty. How do. How does poverty continue?

>> Chip (01:00:47):
Probably not having money, if I had to guess.

>> Teacup (01:00:49):
No. Well, there's a few. There's a few things that cause it. And
it's like education, lack of education. So if your parents
didn't have an education, you're unlikely to have an education. And
if you don't have an education, you're more likely to be
impoverished. So like things like that. If your parents were
divorced, you're might more likely to be impoverished because
you're single, single family income.

(01:01:09):
Yeah, yeah. So there's a bunch of things that go
into it and I just like,
I think by, if you start
early having kids and family and all that stuff, it's,
it's a struggle.
I just think if you, if
you go live in a
car for a couple years, I mean, I

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feel like that's almost like having kids at like 21.

>> Chip (01:01:34):
Like that doesn't make any, not even in the car. It'd be a tent
on top of the cardinal. You ever seen those?
They've gotten pretty high tech now. Like it's a whole like apartment
on top of your car. Fold out apartment. It's pretty cool.

>> Teacup (01:01:46):
Have you seen you, you know, those are
rated like have weight rating?

>> Chip (01:01:51):
Yes, I think thousands of pounds.

>> Teacup (01:01:54):
Really?

>> Chip (01:01:54):
Yeah. The only roof randy thing that, the part that holds
you back is the roof rack. But I've looked at some for my.

>> Teacup (01:01:59):
Well, that's what everything's sitting on.

>> Chip (01:02:01):
one of the ones actually. So the, believe it or not. So the tow
rating for my car. Hold on. The tow rating for my
car is 1500 pounds. I found a roof rack
for my car that reinforces
it to hold 2000 pounds. Not
that like to hold 2000 pounds on top of the car.

>> Teacup (01:02:17):
You can put a tiny house on top of your car. Huh?

>> Chip (01:02:20):
I mean, no, because I want it to be small. I wanted like tiny
houses are small. No, I'm talking like basically a bed on top
of your car.
Okay, look, smart ass,
just telling you.

>> Teacup (01:02:33):
And then you'll own property and I can be proud of you.

>> Chip (01:02:36):
I own property. I own a car.

>> Teacup (01:02:42):
Yeah, that's a fool.

>> Chip (01:02:43):
So anyways, I'm gonna go buy a tent, I'm
going to put it on top of my car and I'm going to
lift the car and I'm going to do all the financial decisions that you
said not to do, but it's going to be sick
and I'm going to go live a life that is worthy
of a I'm gonna live a Jack London book. That's the plan.
And then after I do it for a while, then I'll be like, okay, now we need

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to actually, you know, have a house, do
that kind of thing. Because I also look forward to that, too. That's pretty
cool. Being, like, the dude out there, being the dad mowing the
lawn. That. That'd be pretty cool.

>> Teacup (01:03:18):
The dad mowing the law. You can find this
woman on your expedition.

>> Chip (01:03:23):
Sure, why not? Dude, the. The more. The more
square miles you cover.

>> Teacup (01:03:28):
That's right.

>> Chip (01:03:28):
The broader.

>> Teacup (01:03:29):
That's right.

>> Chip (01:03:30):
The fish. The fishing hole is,
more, always more fish in the sea. And then you make the sea
bigger.

>> Teacup (01:03:37):
Think about it. All right. I wish I didn't have to
hear all that. Listen,
I have had friends that went and did, like, the appalachian
trail hike and all that stuff, and
they learned a lot about themselves. They learned a lot
about. These are miniature
survival things. Right. and they learned

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a lot about themselves, and they went with other people, and they met a bunch of
cool people that they've expressed great
feelings and gratitude because they all have. All these
people help each out, help each other out along this
trail. So maybe
something like that is up your alley where it's only a
few months and you try it out. But I

(01:04:17):
just feel like your earning right now needs to be. You need to
save your money and you need to.

>> Chip (01:04:22):
And that's the thing is that I, It would probably take me another.
Probably another six months of what I'm getting paid
right now in order to be able to, even really
think about doing something like this. And while. But the thing
is, while doing that, you
know, I'm writing that book, I'm, you know,
building that YouTube channel or whatever that presence is going that's gonna

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pay for it, because guys are so motivated, man.

>> Teacup (01:04:46):
I'd be so friggin terrified.

>> Chip (01:04:49):
No, because it sounds fun, but, I also. That sounds like such a
fun existence. So much better than just like, you
know, working in a factory. Like nobody really, I
don't think, wants.

>> Teacup (01:04:58):
To work for anybody. Listening. This is the.
This is the difference between growing
up, maybe in the middle class and having a little bit of,
you know, a different perspective on
things. And somebody that grew up,
I.

>> Chip (01:05:14):
Mean, it's also the generational difference, you know?

>> Teacup (01:05:16):
Is it?

>> Chip (01:05:17):
I think it is, because, I mean, you said earlier,
this is. You basically said there is a.
Hold on. You said that there is a certain way
to live life. You said that there
is a path, and I don't think there is a path.
I think that there is a parking lot, and you can drive around that
parking lot however much you want.

>> Teacup (01:05:36):
Yeah.

>> Chip (01:05:37):
Now, eventually you do have to. There is. It's
just there are boundaries of that parking lot.

>> Teacup (01:05:42):
It's just, you know, your car is probably gonna be a
big piece of shit that you drive around this parking lot
of Life and you're not gonna
enjoy it. At some point, maybe you will.
Ah, man.

>> Chip (01:05:54):
Maybe you'll get to see some cool stuff in that parking lot, you know?

>> Teacup (01:05:57):
And that's true. But like I also said,
there are people, like the gentleman in our class that I
mentioned, and he was talking about moving out with his girlfriend as soon as I was
talking to him about, like, the cost of everything, and he had to
actually think about it, like, his whole
mindset changed. That dude's in saving
mode. And hopefully, I think he's investing, but I

(01:06:18):
don't know about that. I'm not 100% sure about that, but hopefully,
and we can talk about that investing, and I. We should have somebody
in here for that.

>> Chip (01:06:25):
We'll work on that.

>> Teacup (01:06:26):
Yeah. Because we need that information.

>> Chip (01:06:29):
Well, I think that's about all the time we've got for now.

>> Teacup (01:06:32):
All right, I gotta go anyways.

>> Chip (01:06:33):
I'm gonna go spend too much money, and I'm going to go
live. super. I'm gonna live a I'm gonna live a Jack London book. Good
night, everybody.

>> Teacup (01:06:40):
Yeah, yeah. Good night.

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>> Chip (01:06:45):
I try.

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