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July 20, 2024 82 mins
Teacup and Chip discuss a recent Facebook post by Rex Tuozo about the 20 Unspoken Rules for Gentlemen and their thoughts about them. As they do, the guys chase rabbits down holes that lead to a host of other discussion topics. 

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>> Producer (00:06):
Thank you.

>> Teacup (00:07):
Why? Are you gonna talk shit about him? Yeah,
no, don't talk shit, man.
If something funny happened, then yeah, I wanna hear about it.

>> Chip (00:15):
Okay. It is. There's a lot of funny things

>> Announcer (00:19):
on missions. They called
him Teacup

>> Teacup (00:30):
Listen here. Cause I got some shit to tell you.

>> Announcer (00:35):
Now he's telling the boys
what he knows.

>> Chip (00:40):
Wait, what?

>> Announcer (00:45):
This is Teacup talks.

>> Chip (00:53):
So first I have to
take care of a six year old a lot, because the six
year old is my boss's
grandson and they spend a lot of time in the, in
the, at the shop, so.
But he, for some reason, likes me. I think it's because I don't
yell at him. Everyone else yells at him. I
instead try and like, teach him.

(01:16):
Right. Which is actually helping a little
bit. so I took care of this six year old all
day from about eleven to
five. And throughout
the day he would come to me and be like, oh, I made a mess, or whatever, and I would have to go
clean it up. The worst part of the day.

>> Teacup (01:32):
Okay, wait, you didn't stop him?

>> Chip (01:35):
No, I was like, there.

>> Teacup (01:36):
I was like, all right, you made the mess. No, it's like, why
aren't you coming and telling me about how you also cleaned
it up? Like, you're not helping.

>> Chip (01:44):
I can't reason with a six year old like that. But also,
it's like the moment I turn my back, because I'm also trying to get
stuff done because that's the, that's the good part of my day. I've
had these like big roadblocks in my way for the past
like month, and I haven't been able to really get anything
done. And now today,
my boss pulled me in and was like, hey, what's going on? And I
explained everything to her and she goes, great.

(02:07):
Gives me the go ahead to do my solution
and also takes the rings off and is like, oh, and I don't
care what you do as long as it makes me money. So go
forth and make money. So that
was like the best part of my day because I've been stressing about this for
a month and change, actually. but as I'm
walking out, he says, hey, I found a mess in
your office. I go, what?

>> Teacup (02:29):
The little kid?

>> Chip (02:30):
Yep. He, cuz he didn't interrupt me while I was with my
boss because he knows that. So I come out and he
goes, I found a mess in your office. Okay,
what, what happened? He's like, I think one of your oil
barrels. Cuz I had.
Umdhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
not barrels, oil jug. Spilled because I had these gallons of oil that
I had already filled and set aside for a different job.
So I go in there, and I

(02:52):
look at the floor, and it looks like oil. It's this, like, gold
colored, you know, stuff all over the floor.
And I look at it, and he's
like, as we're walking over there, he tells me,
yeah, I tried to figure out what it was, but I don't think it's
oil. Like, what is it? And he goes, I don't know. It smells like
dog pee and tastes like
dog pee. He licked. He put it on his finger and licked it.

(03:15):
yeah.
So I'm like, I get in the office, and I look at him,
make.

>> Teacup (03:22):
Sure he didn't want to be wrong, man. He didn't want. Listen. He didn't
want scientific method.

>> Chip (03:28):
I mean, okay, so I get in
there. The oil barrels are covered in the stuff, and
it looks like oil. So I'm like, okay, no problem. But real
quick, I'm just like, I'll know if it's oil
or if it's, like, you know, water. I also
had bleach in there, so if the bleach mixed with something. And so I
just. I dip my finger in it real quick, not thinking it's
pee. Spoiler alert. it's dog pee. Because

(03:51):
the boss's dog got in there while I wasn't
in the office because the kid opened the door and left it open.

>> Teacup (03:57):
Listen, if the kid tells you he tasted it
and it smells and tastes this, like, dog piss, this
kid. Trust him.

>> Chip (04:03):
M this kid also talks about pee and poop all the
time, nonstop. He sings about poop just
while, he'll be sitting in my office singing about poop.

>> Teacup (04:12):
You think that's why he might not have had a problem with tasting it?

>> Chip (04:15):
Yeah, probably. But I also, you know, I hear about it all day, so
I'm like, okay, anything to him is gonna taste like dog pee. It could
be anything. he also tried to taste.

>> Teacup (04:23):
You should have said anything is possible
for him. Well, you looked at that the whole
wrong way.

>> Chip (04:30):
Well, hold on. Can I finish?

>> Teacup (04:31):
It gets better. I doubt it does. Go ahead.

>> Chip (04:33):
I guarantee you it does. Okay. So, I realized what it
is, and I clean because he finally tells me that he saw
the dog go in there. And, in the back of my
head, I'm thinking, like, how did this dog get in here? Because I thought
the dog was in the other office. So I cleaned this
stuff up. I cleaned the barrels off. I used the
lysol and everything. On it so my office doesn't smell
bad. And later on, you

(04:56):
know, I've completely forgot about this. Now I'm not paying attention to it. And then I
wanted to tell the funny story to one of my co workers,
and he goes, well, how do you know it wasn't the kids?
Because this office. This dog hasn't left the office
all day. Oh, this was after.
Yep, this was after the kid was talking about having to
go to the bathroom for half an hour. And I'm pretty sure what

(05:17):
he. What it either. Either what happened is
the dog did get out, and they got it back and he didn't know about it
or something, and the dog peed on it, or
we were joking on the way out of the office that it might have been the kid, and I
had to clean up the kid's pee all over my oil
jugs.
Yeah, this was after I started my day

(05:38):
by getting in my. I'd been up for less than half an hour. I
get in my car to find a
frog sitting on my dash that I then
had to try and catch and get out of my car, which I wasn't
able to catch, but I was able to get him out the window, which
then he got on my rearview or, on my side mirror and
climbed. He might still be in there. He climbed behind the

(05:58):
mirror and he stayed there.

>> Producer (06:02):
Can we back up? Teacup? Did he just
say that a child may have
peed on his stuff at work?

>> Chip (06:10):
Yes.

>> Teacup (06:10):
yeah. You know, I'm more.
Listen, I'm more
concerned with the fact that the kid
told him that it was piss.
And he was like, nah,
And then tells me that all this kid does is talk
about shit, and I'm pissing.

>> Producer (06:30):
Didn't you say the child tasted it?

>> Chip (06:32):
Yes.

>> Teacup (06:33):
he knew it was piss.

>> Chip (06:34):
He knew what it was. That's why. And
he wanted to say something.

>> Producer (06:38):
And he told you, I just want to say, a girl would never.

>> Chip (06:41):
No. So there was that. But then also,
like, this kid also, I
would never.

>> Teacup (06:47):
I'm a. I'm a man. I would never.

>> Chip (06:49):
Can't imagine.

>> Teacup (06:50):
I take your word for it. I don't give a fuck. It's on the outside
of the thing. I don't care. We're just gonna spray some bleach on it and clean it up.
Like, why did you need to touch it?

>> Chip (07:00):
Because I thought it was oil. Because if I. Because I looked, I was like, oh, I think
it's oil. But I wanted to know if the oil had mixed
with water or anything, because that would mean there's water in the
jug and I need to refill it. So I touched it real quick and, like, did,
like, a swipe with my finger to see if it was thick like oil,
and it was not thick. And my first thought was, oh, the oil got mixed
with water, and then I started wiping it up,

(07:20):
and I was like, it was. No, that's wiping up too easily. And the
oils going. The oil wouldn't,
Yeah, I realized, but you can look at it way too
late.

>> Teacup (07:29):
Watery oil does not look like piss.

>> Chip (07:31):
This oil was brand new, though. That's what I'm saying. I just
pumped it so it was still that golden color. It's 25, 50 if you know
what 25, 50 looks. But it's the same
color.

>> Teacup (07:42):
No, peasant oil don't look the same.

>> Chip (07:44):
I wish. I wish I could implant the picture in
my brain into yours, because it looked. I looked at it, and I was like, oh, yeah,
it looks like the oil.

>> Teacup (07:50):
They're taking a picture.

>> Chip (07:53):
I was a little busy, dude. I was a little busy
cleaning this stuff up quickly so that first the
kid wouldn't get into it, and it wouldn't.

>> Teacup (08:01):
How he told me the story about how he had to go to the emergency room.
Cause he lopped off his finger
from getting some other man's piss on it.

>> Producer (08:09):
Or DC's was called. Because you took it out on the
kid.

>> Chip (08:12):
No, I was. I didn't even think about it.

>> Teacup (08:15):
It wouldn't be the kid's fault. He told me.

>> Producer (08:16):
Where's the child's mother?

>> Chip (08:18):
Oh, she was two doors down in her
office the whole time.

>> Producer (08:23):
Did you tell her what her child had done?

>> Chip (08:25):
No, because I was like, I would rather just clean it up, deal with
it, and.

>> Teacup (08:29):
Well, he still doesn't know if it's dog piss.

>> Chip (08:31):
Exactly.

>> Teacup (08:32):
Out of there.

>> Chip (08:32):
I don't know if it was the dog is.

>> Teacup (08:34):
Why you should have tasted, it.

>> Chip (08:36):
Yeah. Absolutely not.

>> Teacup (08:39):
I mean, to be sure.

>> Chip (08:41):
How would you know by taste?

>> Teacup (08:43):
I don't know. The kid.

>> Chip (08:44):
Now.

>> Producer (08:46):
That'S a great question. How would you know by taste?

>> Teacup (08:49):
The kid?

>> Chip (08:49):
Oh, I ask the kid all the time. He tastes things.
He. Okay. I also today,
found in my inventory, a ah, slightly. It was a
leaking bottle of bleach. So. But I, like, came
in to check it in because I didn't realize it was leaking. I put it on my
desk and then realized there was bleach on my desk. So I go,
hey, buddy, go over, and I just point. I'm like, hey,

(09:09):
can you stay over there so that you don't get this on YouTube. He goes,
okay, and he stands over there for about half a second while I turn around to go
grab the paper towels to wipe this up. In that
time, he comes over and licks it off the
table.

>> Teacup (09:21):
The bleach.

>> Chip (09:22):
Yes, I did tell his mother about that one.

>> Producer (09:25):
And how did she react?

>> Chip (09:26):
And she was like, how much was it? And I was like, a
drop.

>> Producer (09:30):
I think we found the issue.

>> Chip (09:31):
And. And he was. And the other thing, he also said that tasted
like dog pee. So there was that precedent. He says,
everything that's slightly sour or whatever or spicy or
whatever tastes like dog pee, because that's where his mind goes. He's
six years old.

>> Teacup (09:44):
I wish you would have tasted it.

>> Producer (09:45):
I feel like absolutely not a very good segue into what
I wanted you guys to cover today, which are
the 20 unspoken rules for
gentlemen, which I ran across.

>> Teacup (09:55):
You don't lick dog pests.

>> Producer (09:57):
Maybe we should add a 21.

>> Chip (09:58):
And that you don't pee on things that matter.

>> Teacup (10:02):
No.

>> Chip (10:03):
That you don't pee on things that belong to people.

>> Producer (10:05):
You don't pee on things. Don't. Don't
pee on things. Just stop there.

>> Teacup (10:10):
No, no, no.

>> Chip (10:11):
Well, no, because what if you're outside camping? You know? That's why I
didn't say that.

>> Teacup (10:15):
As a man who has had several
drinks and then had to
use the bathroom,
I can say for one that I have peed
on several things. And sometimes it's fun
and so different.
That's not what the. That's not what we gotta fix here.

>> Chip (10:36):
I mean, look, I've camped a lot, and, like, it's kind of fun to,
like, pick a point when you're about to pee off a hill and, like, try and hit
that. I. Dude, the most majestic p
I ever had was off of a bandit. I got a fire
tag.

>> Teacup (10:48):
I'm done with this, man. We can't be talking about majestic peas
anymore, bro.

>> Chip (10:52):
Abandoned fire tower.
Do we not remember what the last episode was about? I feel like that
got worse than that.

>> Producer (11:02):
You are not yet.

>> Teacup (11:03):
Do you remember. Do you remember the story I told you
about when I first got to my
platoon?

>> Chip (11:10):
I think so.

>> Teacup (11:11):
And I was thrown. I, had to go throw something away in the.
Trent, we were in the field, and I had to go throw something away in the trash,
and I walked in the only trash
point, and, I. It was the shitter.

>> Chip (11:22):
Oh, I do remember that. Yeah.

>> Teacup (11:25):
My platoon sergeant sitting there with some other
dude.

>> Chip (11:29):
I do remember that. You had to walk right by him with their.

>> Teacup (11:32):
I didn't walk by him. The trash can was at the
entrance. So, like, he saw me standing
there, and he was like, hey,
you're my new foe, aren't you?
And I said, roger that, sergeant,
as I'm staring off straight ahead at the wall, you know, like, he was to
the right on toilet number three. This other

(11:53):
dude was to the Right. you know, all the toilets were on the Right.
There's no stalls. They're just toilets.
So he was out, like, toilet. There's five there, five or
six. I think he was at toilet three. The other guy was at, like,
toilet two or four, however you look at it.
So they were sitting right next to each other. And I think that
that breaks what? I think that that breaks the rules,

(12:14):
I think. Yeah, at least two.

>> Chip (12:17):
There's at least two rows. There's a few there.

>> Teacup (12:20):
and then he said, hey, you're. You know, you're my new fo. And
I said, roger that, sergeant. And he said,
he said, hey, don't you know it's
disrespectful not to look at me when I'm talking to
you? And so.
And so I had to. I had to
look at him while he was sitting there shitting.

>> Producer (12:40):
No.

>> Teacup (12:41):
Yeah. So as not to be rude to.

>> Producer (12:42):
Him, you know, life as a boy is so
different. So different.

>> Teacup (12:48):
So then he asked me to pull security on him
and the other gentlemen as they shit.
And so I did an about face, you know,
and I stood at parade rest, and I was
blocking the entryway, pulling security,
and, he said, no. How can you pull security
on something you can't see?

>> Producer (13:15):
The things that we talk about on this show
alarm me. They concern me. Okay.

>> Teacup (13:21):
Anyway, that was pretty funny.

>> Producer (13:23):
There were these 20 unspoken rules for gentlemen, and I'm
probably going to murder the guy's name who put these out
there. So we're going to put it in the show notes so that people can find this
man. It was on Facebook. His name is Rex
Tuozo. It's t u o z o.
I don't. I don't. Sorry, Rex. I don't know how to say your name.
Anyway, rule number one, and that you guys have not heard
these.

>> Teacup (13:43):
No, I don't know what this is.

>> Producer (13:44):
I wanted you to. I wanted to hear what you guys.

>> Teacup (13:46):
Had to say, and I was specifically told not to look it up, so
I. I didn't look.

>> Producer (13:50):
Okay, number one, never shake a hand
sitting down.

>> Teacup (13:54):
Oh, I agree. Yeah, 100%.

>> Chip (13:56):
It's disrespectful.

>> Producer (13:59):
Really.

>> Chip (13:59):
Yes.

>> Producer (14:01):
Why is that?

>> Chip (14:02):
Because that you're not putting in the effort to actually,
like, meet the guy where he is.

>> Teacup (14:07):
You know what happens when you're
taller or shorter? You're not meeting them where they
are, but you're not willing.

>> Chip (14:14):
You're not. They're not worth the energy
to actually get up.

>> Teacup (14:19):
Yeah. you have to get up. You never sit in.
You never sit down and shake a man's hand? Never.

>> Producer (14:24):
Would you do it to on purpose, show
disrespect?

>> Teacup (14:27):
Yeah, if I.

>> Chip (14:30):
If m there was someone you really like openly
didn't like, like, if you're in a group, right? And then that
one guy comes in, you know, and, like, everybody
else stands up at you, you know, if you want to be
petty, you. You stay sitting down. But, like, I wouldn't,
because that's also. It's like, how petty can you be?
You know?

>> Producer (14:48):
So how do you guys decide the whole. The way
you shake hands? Because, you know, there's the regular handshake,
and then there's that dude bro thing you guys do where you, like, bump
shoulders or whatever.

>> Chip (14:58):
It's how close you are to him. Like, how.
Like, how well do you know him? What kind of
relationship do you have? Is a professional relationship?
Friendship. Like, super close friendship.
Like.

>> Producer (15:13):
What happens if you think you're closer to the guy than the
guy.

>> Chip (15:16):
Thinks you are, then
you just go with it.

>> Teacup (15:20):
Yeah, you do.

>> Producer (15:24):
We don't do any of this.

>> Teacup (15:25):
I hug my friends.

>> Producer (15:27):
You're a hugger.

>> Teacup (15:28):
I hug.

>> Producer (15:30):
Teacup is a hugger. That fits.

>> Chip (15:32):
Yeah, I'm not really a hugger.

>> Teacup (15:33):
If you. If you like somebody. If you like
somebody and you care.

>> Producer (15:38):
About them, you didn't hug me when you got it to the studio
today. Now I'm offended.
You didn't hug him either. You didn't hug chip. Are you
offended? No, we're offended. I'm offended for both of
us.

>> Teacup (15:50):
Okay. He. He was sitting down. Didn't stand
up.

>> Chip (15:53):
I was not sitting down.

>> Teacup (15:55):
I saw you, and then the first.

>> Chip (15:57):
Time I said, ask her.

>> Teacup (15:58):
And I already.

>> Chip (15:59):
I even said it before because I said, look, when he comes in
the room, I'm gonna have to stand up, so I'm not gonna sit down yet.

>> Producer (16:05):
He did.

>> Teacup (16:05):
That's.

>> Chip (16:07):
So. Don't make me look bad. I was standing right there. I came
out here, I was grabbing.

>> Teacup (16:11):
My drink, and I have already told you that, your husband was
here a moment ago. I'm. I'm afraid of him.

>> Producer (16:16):
I know many are.

>> Chip (16:18):
He's a teddy bear.

>> Teacup (16:20):
I don't give a shit. His hands are big.

>> Producer (16:21):
He's a big guy.

>> Teacup (16:22):
He's a big. He is. I'm, I'm
not, I'm not small.
But I ain't that fucking big, you
know? And so. And so
I'm not. Yeah, we're friends. I like you. You answer my calls.
I answer your calls. We're good to.

>> Producer (16:41):
Okay. Rule number two, protect
who is behind you and respect who is beside
you.

>> Chip (16:48):
I don't, I wouldn't say it's a rule.
That's a, that's like a value or like a way
of being, but a rule.

>> Teacup (16:55):
No, you gotta break that down. What does that mean?

>> Producer (16:57):
Well, he went on to say, this emphasizes loyalty and
honor. Protecting those behind you means safeguarding
your family, friends and teammates. Respecting
those beside you signifies recognizing the equality,
and value of your peers.

>> Chip (17:14):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (17:15):
Protecting behind. I think, you know, you respect
everybody.

>> Chip (17:19):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (17:20):
I think until, until you're disrespected,
you give everybody respect.

>> Chip (17:24):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (17:25):
Obviously, I believe in protecting family
and friends.

>> Producer (17:29):
That would make sense.

>> Chip (17:30):
Protecting. Yeah.

>> Teacup (17:32):
Given my history,
chosen professions over time,
I think, you know, but, you know, for me, that's
obvious.

>> Producer (17:43):
I have a question about your chosen professions over time when we get there, but.
Okay. Rule number three,
never insult the cooking when you are the
guest.

>> Chip (17:53):
Absolutely.

>> Producer (17:54):
Really?

>> Chip (17:55):
Yes.

>> Teacup (17:56):
Never insult the cooking.

>> Chip (17:58):
Never.

>> Teacup (17:59):
Bullshit. How do they get better?

>> Chip (18:02):
How do m. We.

>> Teacup (18:03):
How do they get better? For real? If you just sit there
and look, this is so good. And it's fucking gross
because they'll know.

>> Chip (18:10):
It'S gross too, because then they'll eat it and they'll be like, oh, that was gross.

>> Teacup (18:13):
No, no, no.

>> Chip (18:13):
But you'd also don't want to, like, can.

>> Teacup (18:15):
I don't care. Listen, people
who are eating gross food, they stop and they
say to themselves, hey, why am I
doing this? And then they attempt to make it better,
and eventually it does get better.
So if they're eating it gross, that's because
they don't know it's gross. Maybe they have taste buds out of whack or

(18:35):
something. I think it's important that
we tell them if it's gross.

>> Chip (18:42):
Yeah, but, like, think about that, right? Let's say you make
something, right?

>> Teacup (18:45):
Yeah.

>> Chip (18:46):
you grill for somebody. Yeah. For a group of, like,
20 people.

>> Teacup (18:49):
Yeah.

>> Chip (18:50):
And then you all sit down, everybody starts taking a
bite, and instantly everyone just is like, oh,
this sucks. Nah, nah, this ain't it. Like that, dude. I'd
be like, the heck, I tried hard, you know?

>> Teacup (19:01):
I don't give a shit if they said, hey, man.
Hey, man, your burgers suck. I
say, what do you. What? Well, okay.
It's not asshole to
tell somebody their shit sucks. It's asshole to tell
somebody their shit sucks. And then that's it.

(19:22):
Like, if I didn't think your food was
good, I'd be like, hey, man, your food
sucks. You should probably
add some of this or some, Of this.
Here's a book. This will help you.
I don't like, if we're friends, right?
I gotta be able to say whatever. We're supposed to be

(19:43):
friends. You gotta be able to trust that I'm gonna give you honest
opinions and point you in the right direction.

>> Chip (19:49):
Well, from a friend. Yeah. I'm just like, if you go over to
somebody, somebody's house or a friend of a friend or a friend of a friend
or whatever.

>> Teacup (19:55):
Oh. Ah, well, then I don't do that, so, exactly.

>> Chip (19:57):
It's.

>> Teacup (19:59):
That's why I danced.

>> Chip (20:01):
Is there an explanation on this one?

>> Teacup (20:02):
I don't do all that.

>> Producer (20:03):
It says, showing gratitude and respect for hospitality
is essential. Criticizing the cooking is
disrespectful and ungrateful, especially
when someone has gone out of their way to host you.

>> Teacup (20:14):
Okay, okay.

>> Chip (20:16):
I wouldn't say it's ungrateful.

>> Teacup (20:18):
These are all friends. If it's like a.
Ah. I wouldn't host
people for like, a business meeting or something. We go
somewhere. But, I got friends at my house.

>> Producer (20:28):
I tell you what, after watching all these TikTok videos of how
people prepare food in their homes, I'm
not eating at other people's houses anymore.

>> Chip (20:35):
What do you mean?

>> Producer (20:36):
I. Oh, they do crazy things.

>> Teacup (20:38):
Yes, they do. Listen, you listen. If you ever. If I
ever invite you to dinner at my house, just know you don't even hug me.

>> Producer (20:44):
So I'm sure.

>> Teacup (20:46):
Got him.
I'll definitely cook for him. Your
husband's not gonna beat me to death for that.

>> Producer (20:56):
You think? He's intimidating? Physically? He's an amazing
cook. So what are you gonna do then?

>> Teacup (21:00):
He's the wine. Maybe him and I can, like, battle
each other.

>> Chip (21:04):
I'm sorry, she can't cook. Like, she. There's a few things she can make. She can
bake. You ask her to bake anything
amazing, but there's like, three things that she can cook.
But this dude, he looks in the pantry and goes, yeah, let me just make
a five star meal out of random things.

>> Teacup (21:17):
And you guys told her she wasn't very good cook,
so now she doesn't really. But she
does know that she's a good baker. Stick to your strong. So
it's okay.

>> Producer (21:27):
Amen.

>> Teacup (21:28):
It's okay. It's not gonna. It's not gonna end the world.

>> Chip (21:31):
Or you can be me and suck it both.

>> Producer (21:34):
Go get there.

>> Teacup (21:35):
No, you're not gonna. Cuz we're gonna. We're gonna fix that.

>> Producer (21:37):
You're a youngin.

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We m should totally do an episode where you teach him how to cook.

>> Teacup (22:05):
Just simple things.

>> Chip (22:06):
That'd be fun. I know how to make a few things.
so grilled cheese. But here's the thing. Hold on, hold
on. I don't go, not just the cheese, I'm talking like,
I'll go and put meat in it and stuff too. So it's
actually good. I'm good at pancakes. I'm really, really good at
pancakes. basically I've got one breakfast, one lunch
and one dinner. Oh, actually I can grill anything.

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I'm really good on the grill.

>> Teacup (22:28):
You're good, man.

>> Producer (22:29):
We're doing a video episode that'll be a. That'll be a
YouTube.

>> Teacup (22:33):
Okay.

>> Producer (22:34):
Okay, you ready? The. The next one is a little related to this.
Never eat the last piece of something you didn't
buy.

>> Teacup (22:41):
Yes. You never do that.

>> Chip (22:42):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (22:43):
That's fucked up.

>> Producer (22:44):
Why?

>> Teacup (22:45):
Because you didn't buy it.

>> Chip (22:46):
It's not your. Yeah, I.

>> Producer (22:48):
Is that true in families?

>> Teacup (22:50):
If I tell my son, if I
have like. Cuz I buy. I don't like,
I drink Pepsi. You know, I like Pepsi.
I'm a Pepsi guy. I like
it in the bottle, you know? So like I buy
the. And I like the 20 ounce bottles.
It's something about holding the bottle the size and everything. I don't

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know, that's. That's the tism. I don't fucking know what it
is. So I have to have
those bottles. If I have a couple in the
fridge and I drink one as I'm
drinking that, I look at my son
and I'll be like, hey, you little bastard.
I got one Pepsi left right now.

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I said, that better be there until I go get more and
replenish it, you know? Or, you know, that's mine.

>> Producer (23:35):
You know, it is a rule in our house too, of, it's.
We know what belongs to whom. And you can
have some, but don't take.

>> Teacup (23:42):
I've ran into.

>> Chip (23:43):
Yeah, I've ran into. If you really want to at
least ask. And we have a thing in our family. Like, you know,
it's good to say no. It's not gonna be a weird thing. Like,
like my thing is I really like ramen, so.
And my little sister does, too. So it's like she learned very
quickly. Don't take the last one without asking. And usually I'm cool with it,
but there are times where I'm just, like, planning to have

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that ramen when I get home because it's easy
and it's good. It's terrible for you, but it's
good.

>> Teacup (24:10):
I don't know. It's got a lot of sodium in it.

>> Chip (24:12):
Yes. I like to not use the packet, though,
because that's where this, all the sodium comes from. I like to use the noodles and then kind
of like, make my own thing with it.

>> Producer (24:21):
Okay. Now I really want to know what Teacup has to say about this one because
you were just looking at. You have been looking at boats to
buy boats.

>> Teacup (24:27):
Yeah. I'm going Saturday, by the way.

>> Chip (24:29):
Nice.

>> Teacup (24:30):
I'm gonna buy a boat Saturday. Go ahead.

>> Producer (24:33):
Well, let's see, if you follow this rule, then never make
the first offer in a negotiation.

>> Chip (24:39):
No, there are times where you need to,
dude, like, if you're buying some off Facebook marketplace.
Right? Like, if, if they've got a really good deal on it.
Okay, let's say, like, they, you know, you
wanted to buy this car, this cheap beater car, and it's like
$5,500 or something, right? And you look at it and you
go, I'm willing to pay three, can't three grand

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for it. Offer him three grand, especially if you
already know what it's worthy.

>> Teacup (25:05):
What's the idea behind that last one? What's his
thought process? Because, you know,
this is, this is like, you're not
planning. I think he's saying this
because, you know, you, you want to try to get the best offer
that you can get.
And so that you don't want to go in and you want to,
you want that person, man or woman, to tell

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you the price that they're thinking.

>> Producer (25:29):
That's right. That's what he's saying. It
says, letting the other party make the first offer can provide
strategic advantages. It gives you insight into their
expectations and can help you negotiate better terms.
So, like in your example, or it.

>> Chip (25:42):
Can screw you over.

>> Producer (25:43):
What if they were, well, and we did this. I've done
this in buying cars, where you go to buy the car and you know what it's
worth. You looked it up ahead of time. But if they give you a price,
it could be hundreds to thousands of dollars less
than what you would have offered.

>> Teacup (25:56):
Okay, I disagree with this gentleman.

>> Producer (25:58):
Oh, okay.

>> Teacup (25:59):
Because I think if
you are looking to purchase something like a
boat, car or something like that, where you,
you need to do research into what it is you're buying,
you go in there knowing that either you're gonna
buy it for the price
that's already on your mind,

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and like, don't worry about who's getting
the better end of the deal. Like, if so, I'm
going to buy this boat. If I say, hey,
you know, they got it listed most places, like
Facebook marketplace, triples, allu. And they list for a
price. So they already have something in mind.
So they say, hey, I want ten grand for this boat.

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If I, if I was saying to
myself, I'm only gonna pay eight grand
for this boat, I'm not gonna sit there
and haggle. I won't even go look at that guy's boat.
Cuz I'm not gonna sit there and argue with somebody. I just,
I'm all set.

>> Chip (26:56):
There's more stuff. There's always more stuff.

>> Teacup (26:58):
Peace of mind is more important. I'm not.
If the boat is worth 10,000,
if I have 10,000, go spend and I'm gonna say, hey,
I want this boat. I go there, I look at it, it's worth
10,000 to me. I'm gonna go, hey, man, deal. Ten
grandd.

>> Producer (27:14):
You're not gonna try to get it for 9800?

>> Teacup (27:16):
I don't care. I'm not sitting, I'm not gonna sit here.
I don't care.

>> Chip (27:20):
I don't want to lowball people. Because also in,
in the age of Facebook marketplace and in the age, even
if you want to go buy a car or something, right. Which is why I bought
the car the way I did, because it was just a set price.
But like, people
are greedy naturally. Right?
So this, the person who's

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selling it.

>> Teacup (27:41):
I don't want to say that. I don't want to say people are greedy.

>> Chip (27:43):
a lot of people are greedy.

>> Teacup (27:45):
Paint with a broad brush. That's true.

>> Chip (27:48):
So people that are going to
sell you something like a car or a boat are going
to try to get the most money they can for
it. So if you come at them, with an offer
saying, I'm willing to do this, and
you low ball them, they're instantly like, nope, I don't want
to. I'll find someone else that'll pay for it.

>> Producer (28:06):
Or if they've got a boat listed for ten
grand, to use Teacup's example, and you only
want to spend eight, they might
be perfectly willing to come down and then.

>> Teacup (28:17):
So I'm. If I.

>> Chip (28:19):
So you make that offer.

>> Teacup (28:20):
So if this is something similar to what
I did.
There was a boat. I saw they wanted
a price for it. I went
and looked at the boat. I like it.
I don't think it's worth what they think it's worth. And I have a
little tiny bit of experience about
this now, you know, very

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small, amount, but still experience.
And I think it's worth what
I offered them.
they accepted. So it were. I mean, it
worked out for me, but if they. If they would have said,
hey, no, we want, we want a little more than this, I wouldn't
have done it. I'm all set.

>> Producer (29:01):
So you're both saying it doesn't,
it doesn't matter what the end. It doesn't
matter what you offer because you already come into the
negotiation with an end result in mind, and that's where you
start. And you're not moving off of that.

>> Teacup (29:14):
Listen, I don't. I can't miss something.
I cannot miss something I never
had.

>> Chip (29:20):
Yep.

>> Teacup (29:21):
I don't care. I'm gonna
cry about $300. If I never had
that $300, it wasn't an option to me. I
don't care.

>> Producer (29:31):
See, versus, like, if there was a $10,000 boat and I got it
for eight grand, I'm going to love that boat even more.
No, because I'm going to be like.

>> Chip (29:38):
Look, I won't care.

>> Producer (29:39):
Look at the deal that I got. I'm a bargain shopper, though.

>> Chip (29:42):
I wouldn't care, because in the end, to me, it would be about the boat,
not the price of the boat.

>> Teacup (29:46):
Exactly.

>> Chip (29:47):
So I know it's about what you're buying.

>> Teacup (29:48):
I know what I wanted.
I know what that is roughly gonna cost
me. And then I went and found something.

>> Chip (29:56):
And you planned accordingly.

>> Teacup (29:57):
Yeah. Always you. You have to
research.

>> Producer (30:03):
Being a boy is weird.

>> Teacup (30:04):
Yes. Hey, listen, men. If you listen and pay
attention, that shit, research. You don't
just go into something blind,
have a price in mind. You're firm on that price. If they
don't meet that price, then you walk away. It's okay. It's okay.

>> Chip (30:20):
There's always more stuff.

>> Teacup (30:21):
It's not worth sitting in there and haggling and
we're not doing all that bullshit.

>> Producer (30:26):
Okay, next one, I think, is a given. It's, don't take
credit for work you didn't do.

>> Chip (30:31):
Oh, never. it's, You didn't do it.

>> Teacup (30:34):
Yeah.

>> Chip (30:35):
Then that means you're taking from somebody else, which is probably on there. You
don't steal from people.

>> Producer (30:40):
Okay, this next one is odd. Take the blame.

>> Teacup (30:45):
For what?

>> Chip (30:46):
If it.

>> Teacup (30:46):
No, no, no. Yeah, for what
it says.

>> Chip (30:50):
Did you do it?

>> Teacup (30:51):
no, I don't fucking take the blame. What. What are we
talking about here?

>> Producer (30:56):
Well, it's. It's similar to the last one. It says, take the
blame and give credit when due, which I think is what he just
covered. It says, owning up to mistakes and
recognizing others contributions builds respect and trust.
It shows maturity and leadership. So I guess that begs the
question, if you're. If you're on a team and I. And
whatever the team creates is wrong,
do you take the blame even if you are not the team member that made that

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happen? Maybe you're just one of the team members that led to that wrong.

>> Chip (31:22):
You don't. You shouldn't have to take all the blame, but you take
what's your part of it, you know, you don't try
and get out of it if you messed up
and, you know, you, just acknowledge
it, you messed up. if you learn from it, you.

>> Teacup (31:35):
Only take the blame if you're the fucked
up party.

>> Producer (31:40):
What if the person who is to blame is not taking the blame?

>> Teacup (31:42):
Then you go like this. Hey, that fucker
right there.

>> Chip (31:47):
I wish y'all could see him. He's.

>> Teacup (31:50):
And then points across the room.
That fucker right there.
Because what did. What do we say? This is for men, right?
This is the 20 rules for being a man. That fucker right there
obviously isn't a mandev or gentlemen. I don't.
Yeah. Or a gentle lady.
So guess what? You don't want to be part of the

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team. That fucker right there did it. Sir
or ma'am or whatever, point that
fucker out. I don't. I don't care.
Some people, and I think, you know, in your age
group, chip, and then definitely, like, when
I was growing up, like,
snitches got stitches. That was the fucking deal. Yeah,

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but if you. If I didn't do the dirt with you,
and I'm about to get in trouble for it, though.

>> Chip (32:36):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (32:37):
That ain't snitching, chief. That's you being a bitch and
not taking whatever kind of
punishments coming your way. You're gonna let me take the full. Oh, hell
no.

>> Chip (32:46):
Yeah. It's like, I'm not gonna get you caught. Like, I. I'm not
gonna go and seek out the, you know, now,
whoever I should tell to. But at the same time, if you.
If I'm gonna get in trouble now?

>> Teacup (32:56):
Well, no, no, I'm pointing right at
him. That person right there did. But if I.

>> Chip (33:02):
They start asking the questions, if I.

>> Teacup (33:03):
Did the dirt with them,
then. No, you. Then you can't point them out.
You, would have to take it then.

>> Producer (33:11):
What if somebody on the team, if.

>> Teacup (33:13):
Somebody got me, like, if I got caught, like, if I was robbing
a bank and you were on my
crew and I got
pinched, I'm not
going to be like, oh, you know, for a sweeter deal. Hey, who's with you?
I'm not gonna be like, oh, chip was with me.
No, that's. That's snitchin'he. Wouldn't do that.

>> Producer (33:35):
What about on your. If someone on your team
takes blame and, you know, they're not really
the one that should be taking blame,
I'd call that out.

>> Chip (33:45):
I'd be like, nah, it's not your thing to do.

>> Teacup (33:48):
What do you mean? Am I. What would I say to
that?

>> Producer (33:52):
Would you do anything? Or would you just be like, well, that has nothing to do with me,
because I'm not the one to blame.

>> Teacup (33:56):
Is it a friend of mine taking the blame?

>> Producer (33:57):
It's just your team, like saying that work.

>> Teacup (33:59):
You're an idiot. Why would you. Why would you do that?

>> Chip (34:01):
Oh, I was assuming they would. They were friends.

>> Teacup (34:03):
See, nobody would have to take the blame. Because if I knew
who it was, I would be like this
piece of shit right here.
I'm gonna be honest, this is why I'm not in like
a corporate setting. I can't, I can't.
I can't. Cuz there's people like this.

>> Producer (34:20):
Well, I will.

>> Teacup (34:21):
I've done this. I've done it.

>> Producer (34:23):
As women, we take blame. I mean, we even get blamed
for our own rape. We take blame all the
time for things that are not our fault. And so we're
just sort of conditioned to do that. And so what
happens in the workplace is the team
messes up and the men don't step up. And so
the woman is like, I'll speak for all of us.

>> Teacup (34:42):
You know, it's funny, like, in.

>> Chip (34:44):
Other words, guys step up and y'all should stop doing
it. Like it's, you know, it ain't worth it.

>> Teacup (34:49):
No, no, I
tell my. If my. If I tell my wife or something,
like I'm, you know, hey,
it was a rough day today, you know, I think I, stubbed
my toe. It was terrible.
She'll go, oh, I'm sorry. And I do that.
I'm like, what the hell are you sorry for.

>> Producer (35:08):
Mm

>> Teacup (35:09):
Was you the chair?

>> Producer (35:10):
Cause we're conditioned to.

>> Chip (35:12):
She put the chair in front of.

>> Producer (35:13):
You, fix your world, you know?

>> Teacup (35:15):
And that's funny because you think that that's fixing the world. You say,
hey, I'm sorry. Sorry, mom. The
complete opposite. Like if. Cuz
I'm a solution guy, it's like we were talking about
earlier. If my wife comes to me and
says, hey, I'm having a rough day, I stubbed my
toe. I say, show me that chair.

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Break it. You know, but
I think that's
what kind of makes us a little different here. But I'm
to be a man, you know, or gentleman is
not, you know, don't take the blame. And if. If I knew
somebody that was taking the blame for some bullshit,
I would tell them not, Don't, don't you do

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that. Forget that. I'd rather us all have a
group punishment of some sort than one person
get in trouble for something they didn't do.

>> Producer (36:08):
So.

>> Chip (36:08):
Yeah.

>> Producer (36:09):
You don't think that it is a gentlemanly
thing to do to take the blame if the blame is not yours?

>> Teacup (36:15):
No, I think the gentleman thing to do
is tell the person who is
the offending party to fix themselves
and announce it. And then if they
don't, what kind of team is
this? What is this? Is this corporate setting?

>> Producer (36:32):
Yes.

>> Teacup (36:35):
Am I just a plebe or something?

>> Producer (36:38):
Well, okay, you were in the military.

>> Teacup (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Producer (36:41):
So I'm sure some things went wrong.
You were a private security contractor. I'm sure some
things went wrong and people were to blame.

>> Teacup (36:50):
Yeah, and we. That was a different
world. That's not corporate. That was a different world.
We. We harassed the fuck out of that
person.
Bad. Bad.

>> Producer (37:04):
Do you think that worked? That was effective?

>> Teacup (37:07):
I mean, listen, if you fuck up and you get enough
shit for it, you don't.
You don't fuck up.

>> Producer (37:15):
So maybe we go back to that.

>> Chip (37:17):
Go back to throwing rocks at people.
I'm down.

>> Teacup (37:23):
I don't want. I don't want to stone people
if they need. If they.
That's a little too much stoning.

>> Producer (37:33):
Or we could look at it as a learning opportunity.

>> Teacup (37:35):
How about open hand slap? They will.

>> Chip (37:37):
Look, I'm okay with that.

>> Teacup (37:39):
Okay.

>> Chip (37:39):
Yeah, that's fair.

>> Producer (37:41):
Okay. Rule eight. If you are not
invited, don't ask to go.

>> Teacup (37:47):
Yeah,
I would ask.

>> Chip (37:54):
Then that means you're not valued enough, then. That's not your,
group.

>> Teacup (37:58):
No, I would. I would, I would be like,
hey,
you're gonna tell me
that I'm worthless and not invited.
I want to hear it.
I want everybody to be uncomfortable.

>> Producer (38:20):
Well, this one seems appropriate to Teacup Given his
background, the rule is always aim
for the head.

>> Teacup (38:27):
Oh, man. This is.

>> Chip (38:29):
You're taught to aim for the center mass.

>> Teacup (38:31):
This is a loaded question. you are center mass.

>> Producer (38:34):
Well, his explanation is this metaphorical
rule can apply to many scenarios, implying
that you should strive for excellence and precision
in your efforts.

>> Teacup (38:44):
I don't like it the way it's worded.

>> Chip (38:46):
Me neither. That's a little too much. But, yeah,
but if it means, like, always do as much, you
know, do your best work. Yeah,
I think that's what he means. It's like, but basically,
don't be lazy.

>> Producer (38:58):
But you guys both just said, that's not what that means. You don't aim for the
head. That's not the rule.

>> Teacup (39:03):
Yeah, then, well, I didn't know what he was talking about.

>> Producer (39:05):
What do you aim for?

>> Chip (39:06):
Center.

>> Teacup (39:07):
Center mass.

>> Chip (39:08):
Right here.

>> Teacup (39:09):
I, thought he was talking about shooting. Oh, he's aiming for the head.

>> Chip (39:11):
I was like, why?

>> Teacup (39:11):
We're shooting people. We're hunting
humans.

>> Producer (39:16):
I think that's what he is playing off of.
Maybe he just doesn't know that you
physically don't aim for the head when you're shooting.

>> Teacup (39:23):
I just wouldn't say, like, hey, if I'm looking to
achieve, I wouldn't be like, if I
am going to address a group of people,
I wouldn't be like, hey, you guys are doing
great. But as you're doing great, you got to think
greater. And when you want to think greater, what do you
do? Aim for the head.

>> Chip (39:42):
Like, you know, dude, the group would be
like, yeah, yeah. What?

>> Producer (39:48):
Especially given what has happened in our.

>> Chip (39:50):
Oh, yeah.

>> Producer (39:51):
Nation these past two days.

>> Chip (39:55):
I also wouldn't say aim center mass. I wouldn't even say.

>> Teacup (39:58):
I wouldn't say that. I thought he was talking about something different.
I don't like. I don't like. I don't like his.

>> Chip (40:04):
He's saying, like, do your best. Like, do your best work. You know,
which. Yeah, I mean, don't. Don't be lazy.

>> Teacup (40:09):
No. Aim for the head, stupid. I don't like it.

>> Producer (40:12):
Okay.

>> Teacup (40:13):
Obviously, do your best work, always. How about just say
that?

>> Producer (40:17):
Okay, so I'm interested to see if you both agree with this one, because one of
you is married, and one of you is not even in a
relationship.

>> Chip (40:23):
Hey, don't gotta call me out like that.
The rule is, nobody's supposed to know I'm married
yet.

>> Teacup (40:29):
How's palm?

>> Chip (40:30):
A lot. Oh,
that hurt. A little bit.

>> Producer (40:35):
The rule is don't beg for a
relationship.

>> Teacup (40:38):
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
You don't know nothing about this.

>> Chip (40:43):
I don't. I'm not. I'll. I'll say it. I don't have enough
experience.

>> Teacup (40:46):
You want to hear something crazy?

>> Producer (40:48):
You would.

>> Chip (40:48):
I'll say I'm not begging for a relationship right now.

>> Producer (40:50):
Something went too busy for that awry in your marriage. You
wouldn't beg for the relationship?

>> Teacup (40:57):
Beg.
Listen, I've told too many people this
Life is a one way street in a lot of
respects. And I just feel like,
personally, for me,
that's a one way street. We can't come
back. If you are not the

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person for me, then you're not the person for
me. And if it is something
so drastic that we're talking about
begging, what if.

>> Producer (41:29):
You really messed up?

>> Teacup (41:33):
I need an example. I, Like, I don't know what a
big mess up would be.
Like, I don't know.
I was in. I was in California one time, and I was at this weed
store, and,
And one of the bud tenders.

>> Producer (41:50):
That's a thing?

>> Teacup (41:52):
Yeah.

>> Producer (41:52):
Okay.

>> Teacup (41:53):
Yeah. That's what they're calling. Sorry.

>> Chip (41:54):
The way you said it.

>> Teacup (41:55):
One of the butt tenders. Yeah. make sure we
enunciate it properly. Give them their respect.

>> Producer (42:00):
That is a new job. Goal. Unlocked. I'd like to be a
bud tender.

>> Teacup (42:04):
Listen, I looked into it. I'm not even fucking lying. I looked into
it. I thought it'd be cool. Listen to
this. You hang out with super cool people all
day, have a bunch of wild stories. Everybody that.
It's sales, right? Sales fucking sucks. Retail sucks.
Everybody knows that. Guarantee you being a bud
tender does not
everybody's super cool, because also, everyone.

>> Chip (42:26):
Wants to be there. It's not like, so, like, if you work at Walmart
where people like, oh, I gotta go grocery. You gotta
want some people.

>> Teacup (42:33):
Some people want to be a Walmart. I don't want to sell them short.

>> Producer (42:36):
Who wants to be a Walmart?

>> Teacup (42:37):
Some people who, say this as.

>> Producer (42:40):
Someone who worked at Walmart in college, back when it was a good
store.

>> Chip (42:43):
Dude, even when I worked at that hardware store that's got, like,
I worked in the fun department, and there were still people I would get.
These people come in, be like, oh,
can you help me find this? I really need to get this. It
was like people didn't want to be there, even though
I was selling them things that they didn't need, that
they wanted.

>> Producer (43:05):
Anyway, you. You walked into the weed store, and.

>> Teacup (43:08):
I was, browsing, looking at things, you
know, and I heard
one of the bud tenders telling another, but I couldn't help
it, they were talking so loudly.
But she, she was saying how she
missed her girlfriend.
And she wishes she could have her girlfriend. I was like,

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as I'm browsing, I'm like, excuse me.
We don't. We don't ever do that.
We don't ever do that.

>> Producer (43:38):
Do what?

>> Teacup (43:38):
We don't miss and wish and hope and beg like
that. We don't do that. It lowers our own value,
our value for ourselves, our value that other people
see us, their perspective of
us. We don't do that if they're not for
us. If we already separated, we moved
on. I, think that everything
we can learn from somebody, sometimes it's

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quick, sometimes that doesn't last long,
but as soon as you know that, that's not gonna be able to
continue. That's it.

>> Producer (44:09):
Are you talking about just romantic relationships
or all of them?

>> Teacup (44:13):
All relationships. It doesn't matter if it's romantic
friendships, family. There's
some. There are
some people, you know,
and this isn't for everybody, but, you know, for who it may apply
to. You're sitting at work or you're.
You're sitting with your girlfriend or your husband or, you know, whatever
the case may be, and you're sitting there thinking like, man, this

(44:36):
is fucking awful. This is the reason why. This is
awful. The only way this is going to
get better is if I got a beg.
No, I'm not. No, no, we're not doing
this. Or we. If
you. If I. If I can't sit here
and, my wife sit there and. And we're good in

(44:57):
our space. My wife's not gonna sit here
and hate me. We wouldn't do that. I
wouldn't do that. No. It's a one way street. What
you cannot spend. How long do you wanna be here,
chip?

>> Chip (45:10):
On this earth?

>> Teacup (45:11):
Yeah.

>> Chip (45:12):
I don't know. I could see
80 years.

>> Teacup (45:16):
How do you wanna spend any of that time?
Fretting over
something that was lost? Probably wasn't even
really there to begin with.

>> Producer (45:28):
I feel like too, if you've gotten to the point where you need to beg,
it is over.

>> Chip (45:32):
It's not a relationship.

>> Producer (45:33):
I had this guy. It was before I met my husband. And
he was like really into me. He proposed and the whole thing. And
so it just wasn't a match.
It just wasn't. He was a good time, and that was fun
moving on. And so I tried to move on.
And this man was in my
driveway begging, tell

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me what I can do, and that's what I can be. And that was
never right. there was not, anything
that was gonna make. Oh, well, now that you're begging me,
I'm not.

>> Teacup (46:03):
I would. I would never it lower.

>> Chip (46:06):
He begged work. He cried.

>> Teacup (46:09):
Hold on a second.

>> Producer (46:10):
But I love you.

>> Teacup (46:12):
It was, some cases where it's all right to cry.

>> Chip (46:15):
Oh, I know, but I'm like, this.

>> Teacup (46:17):
Isn'T one of them.

>> Chip (46:17):
He's out there crying.

>> Producer (46:19):
It was bad. It was lie. It was like neighbors
could hear. But why don't leave me?

>> Teacup (46:24):
I hope, you know, I hope
that that gentleman learned from that experience.
And then for the folks
listening, that is not a winning
look. And even if you felt that
way, you need to tell yourself,
stop. Why
that person doesn't feel the same way. And it's

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okay.

>> Producer (46:48):
And I wasn't going to after that. Yeah.

>> Teacup (46:49):
Ah, you know, nobody's, like, oh, shit. They were on
their knees crying and begging in my driveway. Embarrassing as
fuck. Let me get some of that.

>> Producer (46:57):
You know, I had the boyfriends who were, if you leave me, I'm going to
kill myself. And I would think, like, oh, I have really? You had one
of those?

>> Chip (47:03):
I had one of those.

>> Producer (47:04):
Mm

>> Chip (47:04):
Oh, not a boyfriend.

>> Teacup (47:05):
That's, you know. Ah. So my wife was
in, visiting family, and then they were all over my
daughter looking at colleges and stuff, so they were all
over. And, I called my wife a lot,
and in between these calls,
I was thinking, like, this is, like,
borderline abusive. What

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is the number of times that I
call my wife?

>> Producer (47:32):
We do roll our eyes a lot when that happens.

>> Teacup (47:34):
And I was feeling bad about it.
I was like, damn. I'm, like, probably ruining the
trip. You know, she's trying to have
fun with the people that she's there with, and I'm over here
just telling her about how I accidentally
tripped on a piece of grass or
something.

>> Chip (47:51):
I don't know what.

>> Producer (47:53):
Did you tell her that?

>> Teacup (47:54):
No, but, like, the stuff I do have to say to her,
really, most of the time is dumb shit. So.
But I didn't want to have to get into it.

>> Producer (48:03):
It does drive us a little bonkers.

>> Teacup (48:05):
But I did tell her, the next call that I
made to her, I did tell her that. I was thinking like, that. She said, no, it's not.
It's not abusive.

>> Producer (48:12):
It's not abusive.

>> Teacup (48:13):
She loves us.

>> Chip (48:14):
It's just like, she could see it getting annoying.

>> Producer (48:17):
1 hour without.

>> Teacup (48:20):
Abusive it was like, you know, I
call her when I wake up in the morning. Yeah, well, I wake up
early as fuck. So I, like, I would call her at
like a respectable time, like 830,
you know, and then I would talk to her for a little bit and then
she'd go hang out, do her thing, and then I'd call her at
lunchtime, you know, and then I'd call her at

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like, you know, noonzie.
Yeah. Eleven Z's.
Whatever.

>> Producer (48:52):
I'm just saying absence does make the heart grow
fonder, you know?

>> Teacup (48:56):
And that is a true statement. However,
you know, when I need to talk to my wife, I need to talk to my wife. But anyways, no,
yeah, listen, I do. I would not beg. That's
embarrassing. You're not gonna win like that. You don't
win anything like that. And you
lower your, like, you lower yourself value because
then when it doesn't work out, you're gonna sit there and think like,

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man, there I was begging like a fucking
asshole. And then like, that's gonna weigh
on you. How's. Oh my God, that sounds awful.

>> Producer (49:25):
Imagine if I had turned around and said, okay, well, now that you're begging,
okay, we can be together. It's great.

>> Chip (49:30):
Well, that would have been the first time in history.

>> Teacup (49:32):
Then I would have, I would have, I would have lost respect for you. I would
be like, God, that worked on you.

>> Producer (49:37):
Well, and how, like, the dynamic does that, work relationship?
No, it was so unattractive.

>> Chip (49:42):
That's what I'm saying, m like, has that ever worked in the history of
ever?

>> Producer (49:45):
I think because, my feeling anyway, in the
moment turned to pity. And
it's, it's very hard to then be in a romantic relationship
with someone that you, you pity them. And it really turned
into pity.

>> Teacup (49:57):
But I have heard of this thing where they say they shit's
abusive as fuck. If don't be one of
those people either. That's gross.

>> Producer (50:04):
One of what people?

>> Teacup (50:06):
I'm gonna give you leave me, I'm gonna kill myself. I,
blah. Do it quick. Good
luck.

>> Chip (50:18):
Listen, you know what I said?

>> Producer (50:19):
I sit with him.

>> Chip (50:20):
you know what I said?

>> Teacup (50:21):
You're, you cannot let other people
weigh on you. This is your life.

>> Producer (50:26):
Yeah, but imagine what you would feel it like when that happened. It was one of the guys,
another, you know, okay, lots of marriage proposals. This was
another marriage proposal. And I was like, just, this isn't going to do for me.
I called his mother and I said, you are
going to need to go sit with your son because
imagine, well.

>> Teacup (50:42):
You could do that.

>> Producer (50:42):
Imagine if I had just left him. And he had, and he probably would have. He was
very unstable. Now imagine if he had ended his
life. Imagine how his mother would
feel that that girl over there, my
boy fell for her and she knew he was going to do this and she didn't do
anything. Again, we go back to the blame. Who would be
blamed, not him, for ending his Life. I would have been.

>> Teacup (51:03):
Want to talk about this one right now? We'll talk about this one right now.

>> Producer (51:05):
Yes.

>> Teacup (51:06):
Because I know a lot of people that have killed themselves.

>> Producer (51:08):
Mm

>> Teacup (51:10):
Here's the thing. If somebody to me says,
hey, you're gonna make me kill myself, you know, for
whatever reason, you know,
this is my Life. I only get one
of these. If
somebody wants to use their life

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to kill themselves in my name
for something that I cannot be
responsible for, which is their life,
that's their business.
I'm not. I got to be responsible for my
Life. I can't. I. I am not
equipped to take care of
psychiatric needs. So. Yeah, you did.

(51:52):
You did the right thing. You called somebody. So, yeah, I
do that if you can, but that
kind of behavior
is. That is abusive.

>> Producer (52:03):
It was very manipulative.

>> Teacup (52:05):
Oh, yeah.

>> Producer (52:05):
But you have to think, this is your one and only
life.

>> Teacup (52:08):
Bios. I also don't think, like, I
don't, I don't. If you choose
to use your life and to end
it prematurely, if you,
If you choose to end your life, that's
your business. Am I sad if I know the
person? Yes.

>> Producer (52:27):
But don't you want your Life to also be one that could
have prevented the premature
ending of a life?

>> Chip (52:34):
It's up to them.

>> Teacup (52:35):
I mean, if we.

>> Chip (52:36):
There's a reason. It's called killing yourself. And that's why they would say it that way,
is you're gonna make me kill myself. That's the
Right.

>> Producer (52:42):
I get that. But, you know, that's just a,
psychotic moment. It's going to pass. And so if
you can be an individual past that
momentous, it's not my job.

>> Chip (52:52):
My job.

>> Teacup (52:52):
Again, like I would say, you know, I'm not. I'm not equipped to handle those
psychiatric needs. I'll be like, hey,
man. Yeah, well, I'm not gay. I wouldn't be a man, I don't think.
But maybe, you know, I don't know, but,

>> Producer (53:06):
You'Re gonna be begging in your marriage.

>> Chip (53:10):
Good thing she's not here this time.

>> Teacup (53:12):
But,

>> Producer (53:12):
I mean, but you guys are compassionate. If
you. If you could prevent someone
from.

>> Teacup (53:19):
Of course. I like, like I said, I have
friends that have committed suicide. Quite a
few, actually. A lot of people I know, a
lot of people I served with, and it's fucking terrible.

>> Producer (53:31):
Mm

>> Teacup (53:31):
and, you know, I've said it, man. I wish I would have
known. here's the thing. Some people are
just, they're
so hurt by this Life, or
they're so down about this Life, and they. And they do get
psychiatric help, but it's also, like,
in your, like, how you look at the
afterlife. And a lot of. A lot of people don't like suicide

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based off of their religious.
Perception of things. And that's cool. Teaches
own. I don't look at it like that.
First off, I don't believe in hell. I don't believe in
hell.

>> Producer (54:03):
Mm

>> Teacup (54:03):
so, like, if somebody were to do that,
I don't think they get a chance to come back. You
know, reincarnation might not be for them.

>> Producer (54:13):
What do you think happens when you die?

>> Teacup (54:16):
I think you go to heaven.

>> Chip (54:18):
You and I have talked about this before.

>> Teacup (54:20):
I think you go to heaven. I think I, Yeah, I think you go to
heaven.

>> Producer (54:24):
But you think heaven is.

>> Teacup (54:25):
I think it's whatever you perceive it to be.

>> Producer (54:28):
So I'm going to be thin and eat all the chocolate
cake I want. It's gonna be great.

>> Chip (54:35):
we should do a whole episode.

>> Producer (54:36):
What do I think about that? What do you.

>> Teacup (54:38):
What do you want heaven to be?

>> Producer (54:40):
If everyone's going to heaven when they die, why wouldn't everyone
into their life now?

>> Teacup (54:45):
Because this life is great.

>> Chip (54:47):
Because in this life, not for everybody. Because this
is the only place where random could happen. Wherever you can
experience things that you've never experienced before. Because
think about it. If all you've got is what's
left in your head, then you would never
experience something new.

>> Teacup (55:03):
So we talked about the egg theory.

>> Chip (55:05):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (55:06):
All right.

>> Producer (55:07):
What's the egg theory?

>> Teacup (55:08):
It's that you get reincarnated like every,
you can. I can live my life as me. Then
I can live my Life as a chip. Here's the thing.
His life is always the same.
He's going to sit here with me and you.
We're going to talk like this. None of this changes.

(55:31):
It would just be me. I would be
experiencing Life through his
perspective. Because he is seeing
things and learning things that I'm not
aware of. Because I'm seeing Life through my
perspective.

>> Producer (55:46):
Do you think it's limited to human beings that you come back as
a human or anything.

>> Teacup (55:51):
Oh, man. There's something so cool about Buddhism. I
like, I would like to think that you can come back and be an
animal. I like to think that you have a choice.

>> Chip (56:01):
But do you get it? It begs
the question though, like,
are there certain animals then, or certain people
that then know?
Because how do you. Because if you're coming back
as you.

>> Teacup (56:17):
So here's the thing.

>> Producer (56:20):
I don't think you're coming back as you.

>> Teacup (56:21):
Because even, even if you look at it through, like
Christianity, when we're sent here, right,
we're supposedly
souls in heaven that are sent
here. Do you remember heaven?
You see what I'm saying? So. And I'm not saying that if you.

>> Producer (56:37):
Talk to young un's, if you talk to three, four, five year olds, they'll tell
you about. And they say that it's because
they're not far enough removed from the memories of where they
were.

>> Teacup (56:46):
So. My daughter did that. My youngest. Really?
Yeah. It was creepy as fuck, but I loved it. And so
I would try to get info from
her about the olden times.
I love it.

(57:06):
But if.
If it's just like Christianity. Cause I'm
not stepping on anything. if you believe what you believe, everything's
cool to me. Teach his own.
If it's like Christianity and where a soul gets sent down
here in every Life, like how I
said, where I'm living my Life through my perspective now,

(57:27):
I'll live it through your perspective. and we'll
go through everybody's life. We're gaining knowledge here
until we can become a
superior being ourselves. That's the egg
theory.

>> Producer (57:41):
Why is it an egg?

>> Teacup (57:43):
Because you're. Because you're,
It really has nothing to do with an egg.

>> Producer (57:48):
But we just call it an
egg theory.

>> Teacup (57:51):
As a young soul,
we're not ready to be an ultimate being.
I don't want to say God, that doesn't feel right, but
we're not an ultimate being until we've lived all of
these lives. Now back to the
original question about being like the animals
and stuff. Do you know, you don't know that you

(58:12):
were in heaven prior to this? You don't remember it? You
know, you couldn't tell me who your friends were.
Just like, if you went into a
dog when you pass, you
can't tell me about heaven
or your life is chip. Or
you would just be the dog sitting there enjoying
Life from that perspective. And you said not.

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Not everybody has a great life, and I don't like to do
that. I, like to say everybody has a great life, because, like I
said, we all live for these moments and
these different things that we're
learning from each other. And that's
great. M m. It's not always
pretty. You know, there's some hardships here and there, but we're learning
from those hardships, so it's still great,

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especially if there's something after this
and we need this knowledge. Of course it's great,
but there are.

>> Producer (59:03):
Those lives that are not great
consistently, the whole time.

>> Teacup (59:07):
Yeah. And that happens. That's, I mean, it's an experience.

>> Producer (59:11):
So in that instance, going with your
philosophy, the best thing you could do would be to end
that and get to the next life.

>> Chip (59:18):
No, because then you don't get all the knowledge that you can.

>> Teacup (59:20):
Yeah.

>> Producer (59:22):
All the knowledge from the horrible hard life.

>> Teacup (59:24):
Well, here's. Yeah, so I,

>> Chip (59:25):
Because you get knowledge no matter what.

>> Teacup (59:27):
So I also believe. So I said I don't believe
in hell. I believe we're here
for knowledge and, to have these
experiences, Life, whatever that may be.
but I also
think that our
lives are predetermined. Like when we

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die, that's already, that's already known.
You shouldn't shorten that because like chip
said, we're supposed to have all these
experiences
now, as I say that.
Right. I also
noticed that suicide would be.

>> Producer (01:00:07):
Mm What if that's what's known? And then that's how that
was. That is what's known, right? That's what
was known.

>> Teacup (01:00:13):
That's what their life is. That's why, like, you can't.
I cannot, like, oh, man, you know, yeah, I
lost a friend, but I'm not gonna be like, you know,
this is the end of my Life. And. No, I'll
remember the good times we had, all the moments
and memories and all that shit. It's all
good. We learned he was, you know, great friends,

(01:00:33):
whatever. And we're gonna move on. We're gonna take
those, those learning moments with us. Hopefully,
you're passing this shit down to somebody else,
you know, these experiences like we're doing right now. I've,

>> Producer (01:00:46):
So you think even if someone
dies of an accident or something, that others
would look at it and go, that is a premature death?

>> Teacup (01:00:55):
I don't.

>> Producer (01:00:55):
You're like, nope, that was the death that was meant. It was meant to be by
virtue of it happening. It was meant to happen.

>> Teacup (01:01:01):
It was meant to be.

>> Producer (01:01:05):
You're awfully quiet, chip.

>> Chip (01:01:06):
I'm just absorbing, I'm absorbing the knowledge.

>> Teacup (01:01:09):
I just, I just, I
don't like to sit around and like, like, a lot of
people worry about stuff like this. I don't want to do
that. It's very free.

>> Producer (01:01:21):
Like, I've only known three
deaths in my Life. I mean, I've known a lot of deaths in my Life.
I've only known three deaths that
struck me as, that wasn't supposed
to happen that way. And those are the
ones that still live with me of,
that was messed, that wasn't, that was a mess up. That wasn't

(01:01:42):
supposed to go down that way. Cause it. Cause that's how it
resonates with me in my being of,
nope. Nope. That wasn't right. That wasn't right. That wasn't supposed to happen
that way. But what you're saying is, yes, it was
all right.

>> Teacup (01:01:54):
Yeah. So I asked my wife once,
because I, you know, I try to be
introspective and I try to think about my life and I try to think about,
like, a bunch of crazy shit that, you know, is
impactful and, you know, try to make sense of
things. And I was asking my m wife one day and I
said, this is why I don't believe in hell. M. I said,

(01:02:14):
I said, sweetness, do
you think
Judas is in hell? And she said, yes.

>> Producer (01:02:23):
She said yes.

>> Teacup (01:02:24):
Yeah.

>> Producer (01:02:25):
Interesting.

>> Teacup (01:02:26):
Okay. Because he betrayed Jesus. There's a lot
of christians that believe Jesus is in hell because he betrayed
Jesus. He's a rat fuck.

>> Producer (01:02:33):
And is that what they say?

>> Teacup (01:02:37):
But I can't believe.

>> Chip (01:02:38):
Imagine. I can, I can't believe that.

>> Teacup (01:02:41):
Because I said, sweetness, how do we have, how do we
have the Romans finding Jesus and crucifying them if we don't
have Judas snitching?

>> Producer (01:02:49):
Mm

>> Chip (01:02:50):
And you wouldn't have this, that you wouldn't have
a character.

>> Teacup (01:02:54):
Yeah. You want that? You. Yeah, you need that. You kind of need that part
to get to the other part.

>> Chip (01:02:58):
You know, otherwise, he's just a really cool magician.

>> Teacup (01:03:03):
So, you know,
hating, hating Judas for, you know,
scoring some silver and ratting out Jesus. It was supposed
to happen.

>> Producer (01:03:12):
That's how, what about, like, you know,
children who get leukemia and die? You think that was
supposed to happen that way?

>> Teacup (01:03:19):
It's supposed to happen. It's sad,
it's terrible, but,
but that's what was.

>> Chip (01:03:28):
Well, think about the knowledge, the emotional
knowledge, right. That
you would gain from that. That every party
involved in that person's
life would gain from that. The
different feelings that they would experience, the different not
the stuff they would know.

>> Teacup (01:03:47):
So not, not. It can't
just be about that one person. That's their life, right? So if I'm you know,
if we're talking about, That's so gross,
cuz little kids in cancer, if you guys
listening, want to donate and help
out, St. Jude's a click away.
But.

>> Producer (01:04:06):
So for instance, this is what I'm thinking about before you tell me this.
Okay, so I have a mom friend. One of her
sons got cancer. That mom did,
of course, everything that she could
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died. Never even got to driving age. He still
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(01:04:48):
buried, she could not, because she was
so this, she was in that moment of this was not
supposed to happen. It destroyed her family. Her marriage
ended. I mean, so I look at that and I go, okay,
maybe she did learn some things from that. Obviously she had
emotional experiences she would not have had otherwise. But was
that worth her marriage? Being
present for her other children?

>> Teacup (01:05:09):
All of that was supposed to happen.

>> Chip (01:05:11):
And all of it was knowledge. As much as it
sucks in the meantime.

>> Teacup (01:05:15):
So your friend. So the experience wasn't
just your friend. The experience was her
husband. Your experience was the other two kids. The experience
was the kid that died.

>> Producer (01:05:25):
All the people who watched it felt for her.

>> Teacup (01:05:28):
There's all these, all these people are looking at
this happening and they're. Something is
happening with them.
Something. I don't. I tell my son every day,
you're gonna do something amazing. I know it. I
don't know what it is. I don't know when it'll be. I don't
know anything like that. But I know I'm looking at you. I know you're gonna do something
amazing someday.

(01:05:50):
And who the fuck knows? Well, maybe he
won't. Maybe he will. Maybe what
he does is inspire somebody else to do
something. Who knows? But
everything's supposed to happen. Everything that happens,
happens the way it's supposed to happen.

>> Producer (01:06:07):
So nobody can make any wrong decisions ever. How, huh?

>> Chip (01:06:10):
Can you see I'm on the other end?

>> Teacup (01:06:12):
So we have choices in Life.

>> Chip (01:06:13):
I think everything's random

(01:06:38):
because. Because here's the thing.

>> Teacup (01:06:40):
I can't.

>> Chip (01:06:41):
Let me ask you.

>> Teacup (01:06:42):
Things random.

>> Chip (01:06:43):
Sure they can. Because if things had
to happen, that would mean that there is something or somebody that
set that in motion said that these
things have to happen.

>> Teacup (01:06:53):
See, I believe in all knowing, all powerful God
who's already out. So if
he's already seen your life play out all
the dis. So where did your decision making, why.

>> Producer (01:07:05):
Does it have to be he or.

>> Chip (01:07:06):
Where did they come?

>> Teacup (01:07:08):
You know, I'll go with a she. You know, I could go with
that. That's fine with me.

>> Chip (01:07:12):
Honestly. It's probably, if there is something like that, it
wouldn't be a he she.

>> Teacup (01:07:16):
It would be a back to what you say. Where's
the randomness? Or where's the choice? The choices and
the choices in you. The choice is to you.
You have a choice because in front of you, you see, but there's
somebody already made that. You already
make the choice. You're going to make a choice and it's going to be
new to you.

>> Chip (01:07:35):
But it's not going to be new to whatever
that would mean. There would have to be something
that controls everything, not just with
us, but let's assume even down the
shoes, not controls.

>> Teacup (01:07:50):
You don't have to control.

>> Chip (01:07:51):
If they said or
knew that or set in motion that this was
going to happen, that would mean that they controlled it. They
set it in motion. If I push a ball
control, I controlled the ball to go that way.

>> Teacup (01:08:05):
Control means that you are.
No, you pushing the ball, you're just a force acting on
the ball. Controlling the ball means that you are going to
continue making it go in this direction.

>> Producer (01:08:17):
So are you saying you believe in a God that set things in motion and
took, took their hands off and said, okay,
it's going to play out.

>> Chip (01:08:25):
But somehow, at the same time, he.

>> Teacup (01:08:27):
Or she knows what's going to happen.
They already know this.

>> Producer (01:08:31):
Well, that would be a really cruel goddess.

>> Teacup (01:08:34):
No, it's not cruel.

>> Producer (01:08:35):
Oh, my gosh. Look at what's going on in the world, even in our
lifetimes.

>> Teacup (01:08:39):
What?

>> Chip (01:08:40):
What?

>> Producer (01:08:40):
Those suffering, the needless suffering. People
die. Children dying of hunger in the streets,
sex trafficking.

>> Teacup (01:08:47):
I mean, so if you look at it like the egg theory,
it's not needless suffering.
okay, because we're supposed to learn something. How about we could
then become, what.

>> Producer (01:08:57):
Six year old by being repeatedly raped in sex
trafficking? That is not a lesson that anybody needs to learn. There's
nothing there that needs to be learned.

>> Teacup (01:09:04):
So for the six year old, I agree with you,
okay?

>> Producer (01:09:08):
But that God for the emotion and according to your
philosophy.

>> Chip (01:09:11):
But I see where he's coming from. Because for the person that comes
after.

>> Teacup (01:09:14):
That comes and gets that fucker that did
it. You see what I'm saying? That's
it. There is something for that person or
there's something for this person in that situation.
You know, I'm saying, yeah.

>> Producer (01:09:27):
This is a very old testament view of God where
human, some human beings are simply pawns to teach people
lessons.

>> Teacup (01:09:33):
Not pawns.

>> Producer (01:09:36):
What's that six year old in that scenario?

>> Teacup (01:09:38):
Not a pawn. I don't mean it like
that because.

>> Chip (01:09:44):
Well, because it's, so here's the thing. In the very next life,
that same six year old, that same energy
is.

>> Teacup (01:09:51):
Going to be the person doing, could.

>> Chip (01:09:53):
Be the person that gets the guy or is the
rapist or is whatever.

>> Producer (01:09:57):
According to Christianity, there is no second chance. You've got
one life. It is appointed unto man once to die.

>> Chip (01:10:02):
We're talking about the egg theory.

>> Producer (01:10:03):
Yeah, but I don't, he was talking about the christian God a minute ago.

>> Teacup (01:10:06):
Well, so just so
everybody's clear, I,
I don't believe in hell. So I gotta, I guess I
couldn't really be a Christian because I think you, I
think it's kind of necessary for that religion to believe in hell.

>> Producer (01:10:21):
some of them say, you don't have to. Progressive christians don't say,
yeah, I mean.

>> Teacup (01:10:24):
Then are they really christians? What's a Christian then? There's so many different
ones. I don't know what it means.

>> Producer (01:10:29):
I'm just fascinated that you, your
philosophy is that there is a God who not only
set things in motion but predetermined how all of those things
would interact. And then that God is
not held accountable for the
horrendous things that are happening to
innocence in that scenario.

>> Chip (01:10:48):
But they're not innocent.

>> Producer (01:10:49):
A six year old being sex trafficked is innocent.

>> Chip (01:10:52):
I'm sorry right now, but in the next one that would mean that
they, they might not be based off of.

>> Teacup (01:10:57):
How we perceive our life
on this planet. Yes,
I agree. Innocent as fuck. And we should
slay all the pedophiles,
all of them, and that's fine. I
would not miss them.

>> Producer (01:11:14):
So under that philosophy, the end goal is
that we just keep getting better and better and
better to where eventually we don't have those kinds of things.
Because every time somebody comes, they're learning and they're coming
back better every time that,
actually, no.

>> Chip (01:11:29):
No.

>> Producer (01:11:29):
Does that hold true to are we better as humanity today than
we were 5000 years ago?

>> Teacup (01:11:33):
So that's what Buddhist believe, though? Buddhists believe that they come
back, they gain all this knowledge in every life that they have, and
they come back. You know, you're a cricket one time you're a
little, ah, girl, the next time, you're a little boy the next time, you know,
whatever, whatever. And all
of those lives lead to
enlightenment.

>> Producer (01:11:52):
And when you get to enlightenment, you don't. Just don't come back.

>> Teacup (01:11:55):
You. You wouldn't need to, but I
am. So
there's only one enlightened being, and that's
Buddha. That we know,
but maybe. And then, you know, just hear me out
here. Maybe every
other, I'm
at a loss for words now. string theory,

(01:12:17):
galaxy, universe. Universe. Every other universe. Oh,
God. Like there's different dimensions
and perhaps, and, you know, you
live all these lives in this dimension and
you're in
a mighty being. I don't want to say God.
I, Sounds gross to me, but. And then you're

(01:12:39):
the one that creates this life
so that other people, beings, can
gain knowledge and whatever it
is that they need to gain knowledge and so that they can be, you
know, it just keeps going to put this.

>> Chip (01:12:52):
I don't know what to put in Gen Z terms. Basically,
you got to collect experience to level up
and you keep leveling up until you get to the max
level. Is that the idea?

>> Teacup (01:13:03):
I don't know. Maybe.

>> Producer (01:13:04):
Okay, we've been going a long time and we need to conclude. But I have one more question
for you guys. Okay, so if there is. Well,
this would not be, I guess, for you, Chip, because you don't believe in an all powerful
being being in control of all this, right?

>> Chip (01:13:15):
no, but you.

>> Teacup (01:13:16):
I don't think it's possible I could.

>> Producer (01:13:18):
Okay, so if there is an
all powerful singular being that set
all this in motion and knows where it's all going at
any given moment,
why is it that that all
powerful focus on that word, all powerful being,
can't figure out a way to

(01:13:38):
simply start existence
with knowledge that you're telling me right now we can
only get through pain and suffering. Why can't we
just start with that knowledge? Why do we have to have six
year olds being sex trafficked to pick up that knowledge?

>> Chip (01:13:52):
Well, then maybe.

>> Producer (01:13:53):
Or children dying of leukemia or
rape victims or any of those things.
Why can't we just start with that
knowledge? To use your phrasing of
gaming, why can't your character already have that
capability? Why do we need to suffer? If the God
is all powerful, wouldn't the God have

(01:14:13):
that capability to start the character of the human
with that knowledge.

>> Teacup (01:14:18):
How. Let me ask you this.
How sad were you when you heard about Sandy
Hook?

>> Producer (01:14:25):
Horrendously so.

>> Teacup (01:14:27):
Okay.

>> Producer (01:14:30):
But according to you, that supposed to happen?

>> Teacup (01:14:32):
It was. But you the next day, and I'm not trying to be like,
mean or anything. That's. I don't mean to like.
I don't abdicate shootings. I wish. I
wish that this almighty being
told our congress to put some kind of
order in to stop this kind of shit.

>> Producer (01:14:48):
Mm

>> Teacup (01:14:48):
That would be dope.

>> Producer (01:14:49):
Mm

>> Chip (01:14:49):
Because that would mean they already knew what the best solution
was.

>> Teacup (01:14:53):
Well, no, no. Only the all powerful
knows what the solution is.

>> Chip (01:14:57):
That's what I'm saying.

>> Teacup (01:14:59):
But, but, Why'd you read the next
day, you went and did your thing, right? You
went to work and did your thing. You know,
the day after that, did the same thing. Day
after that, day after that. All the way. All the way. All the way to
Parkland. how sad were you in Parkland?

>> Producer (01:15:18):
Very.

>> Teacup (01:15:18):
Okay. Again. And then the next day, you went to work and did
your thing, and we forgot all about it. We didn't. We got to do our own thing.
We got our own things on our mind. We got this and
that. We find it very
easy to forget
atrocities.

>> Producer (01:15:33):
Well, we exclamate. I actually just listened to an episode on
the Hidden Brain podcast about this this morning. How our brain, it's like when
you. If you come into a bakery and you smell the
cookies and the bread and it all smells so good and it's wonderful, but within
about five minutes, you don't really smell it anymore because our
brain literally acclimates. And that is true
emotionally and psychologically as well. Meaning, like, if

(01:15:53):
you were in an abusive situation, and I speak to you as an abuse
survivor, you get it doesn't feel like
abuse after a while because your brain acclimates to this new
reality. But is your argument
that, okay, we should just acclimate to suffering?

>> Teacup (01:16:07):
Not that many acclimates.

>> Chip (01:16:09):
I don't.

>> Teacup (01:16:09):
Because we can.

>> Chip (01:16:10):
Because you would think it would like.

>> Producer (01:16:11):
I don't want to grow accustomed to school shootings.

>> Teacup (01:16:13):
We're not gonna. Nobody's gonna, and you shouldn't.

>> Producer (01:16:16):
But why do we have to have them in the first place? Like your argument
is, well, that was supposed to happen. And I'm like, why
can't we have a universe where that doesn't need to happen?

>> Teacup (01:16:25):
And we do somewhere, and we're gonna
be there someday, so shouldn't we all
just stay there.

>> Producer (01:16:33):
You're advocating for suicide. We all should just end
these lives. I don't get to the next one.

>> Teacup (01:16:38):
No, I don't advocate suicide because I want to learn everything I can.
I want this Life to end when it's supposed to. So I'm
not, I don't know. maybe I do. I don't know
how to end. But we're not doing it right now.

>> Chip (01:16:48):
Begs the question of how do we know that at some
point in our lifetimes that that
solution could come and it would never happen again and we can always
work.

>> Producer (01:16:57):
That's where I struggle with suicide. Because what if you were supposed
to be the one? Why I think suicide is an
irregular, not planned ending. Because what if you were supposed
to be the one who was going to get that law passed to
prevent the next sandy hook? Or going to find that way
to treat leukemia, or going to find that sex
trafficker? Your potential

(01:17:18):
to make it better is over because you
ended your life.

>> Teacup (01:17:23):
But maybe, maybe not.

>> Chip (01:17:24):
Because at the same time you.

>> Teacup (01:17:26):
Why do we stop? Why do we stop there? At suicide, every
time you drop a bomb, you end the Life of a potential
person. I agree. We do it all the time.
Oil is more important than cures for leukemia.

>> Chip (01:17:38):
More than blood.

>> Teacup (01:17:39):
Yeah. Ah. So. Or, you know, diamonds or whatever other
bullshit we find interest in.
So I just,
for me, and I like to go. I
just, I try to put out good vibes.
So good vibes come back to me.

>> Producer (01:17:54):
Unless your food is bad and he's going to tell you.

>> Teacup (01:17:56):
But I don't think that that's bad. I don't think that that's
bad. I'm helping you. I'm doing you a favor.

>> Producer (01:18:02):
I'm waiting on my dinner invitation. That's all I'm saying.
I feel as if, if I'm not going to get a hug, it
would change.

>> Teacup (01:18:08):
Dinner would change your life.

>> Producer (01:18:10):
I make a not bitter.

>> Teacup (01:18:11):
What are we going to make?

>> Producer (01:18:13):
I would, I would eat at your house. I don't eat at many people's
houses. I would.

>> Teacup (01:18:17):
Well, listen, I have a background in.

>> Producer (01:18:19):
Food, but I don't like sauces or condiments
or any of that stuff. I don't eat any of it.
Ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise, pickles. I don't eat any of that
stuff.

>> Chip (01:18:29):
Her order at McDonald's is literally a
cheeseburger. Plain, literally meat, cheese. Nothing.
Occasionally english.

>> Producer (01:18:36):
That's true. Even if I'm at some high end rush, I love
burgers. So even if I'm, you know, if I'm at a nice
burger place, not just McDonald's. Sorry. McDonald's. It's
still, I want meat and I want cheese, and I want.

>> Teacup (01:18:48):
McDonald's knows what they are.

>> Chip (01:18:51):
There's a. There's a reason they haven't changed the.

>> Producer (01:18:53):
Formula or like steaks.

>> Chip (01:18:55):
They found their niche.

>> Producer (01:18:56):
We don't use sauce on steaks.

>> Teacup (01:18:58):
Like a one.

>> Producer (01:18:58):
No. Gross. We don't use dressing
on salad. Then you can't taste the vegetables.

>> Chip (01:19:05):
You can. It tastes different.

>> Producer (01:19:06):
You just taste dressing.

>> Chip (01:19:08):
No, no, it tastes different
because all of that together culminates into a
completely different experience.

>> Producer (01:19:15):
No, you just. I can
smell the dressing on the salads at
the table, and it messes up how the vegetables taste in my
mouth.

>> Teacup (01:19:24):
I'm like that, with hot sauce if I. Cause I can smell
the vinegar. and I'm just like,
meanwhile, I.

>> Chip (01:19:31):
Can barely smell or taste anything, so I gotta put hot sauce
on everything.

>> Teacup (01:19:34):
We went deep today, didn't we?

>> Producer (01:19:36):
We did.

>> Teacup (01:19:37):
I'm leaving.

>> Producer (01:19:38):
You cook, I'll bake. We'll have a great meal.

>> Chip (01:19:41):
It'll be fine, and I'll enjoy all of it.

>> Producer (01:19:43):
And that's probably meant to be.

>> Chip (01:19:46):
Yeah.

>> Teacup (01:19:46):
I mean, if it happens, I'm.

>> Chip (01:19:48):
And then me going into a coma from eating too much.
Yeah.

>> Teacup (01:19:51):
Like, if it happens to be. It was meant to
be.

>> Producer (01:19:54):
Okay. There are ten more rules, but we'll hit them on the next episode.

>> Teacup (01:19:57):
You know, I've heard, like, I've almost died a few times
myself. I'm like, I don't. I'm.
Not just saying this lightly, by the way.

>> Producer (01:20:05):
You're walking around with this thing in your head that.

>> Teacup (01:20:08):
So we. I just don't.
We try not to.

>> Producer (01:20:11):
Don't worry about it.

>> Teacup (01:20:12):
Take it too seriously. We just go with the flow
of things.

>> Producer (01:20:16):
All right.

>> Teacup (01:20:17):
All right.

>> Chip (01:20:18):
Cool.

>> Teacup (01:20:19):
Chip. I miss you.

>> Chip (01:20:20):
You miss me?

>> Teacup (01:20:21):
Yeah, sometimes.

>> Producer (01:20:27):
Good night.

>> Chip (01:20:28):
Good night.

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