September 30, 2024 • 17 mins
The Tesla Cybertruck represents a bold leap forward in electric truck design, but it comes with a range of potential drawbacks that buyers should carefully consider. From its polarizing design and size to concerns about its real-world durability, availability, and performance, the Cybertruck isn’t a one-size-fits-all vehicle.
For some, the unique look, cutting-edge technology, and Tesla’s innovation will be enough to overlook these negatives. For others, traditional electric trucks like the Ford F-150 Lightning or Rivian R1T might offer a more practical and familiar alternative. Ultimately, the Cybertruck’s success will depend on how well it can deliver on its promises and whether it can overcome the many challenges it faces in the competitive truck market.
For some, the unique look, cutting-edge technology, and Tesla’s innovation will be enough to overlook these negatives. For others, traditional electric trucks like the Ford F-150 Lightning or Rivian R1T might offer a more practical and familiar alternative. Ultimately, the Cybertruck’s success will depend on how well it can deliver on its promises and whether it can overcome the many challenges it faces in the competitive truck market.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, buckle up, because we're diving headfirst into the
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world of the Tesla cybertruck, and judging by the stack
of articles you all sent in, it's obvious you're ready
to go deep on this thing.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah. It's been making headlines for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's not just a truck, is it. It's a statement.
Some would even say the future of pickups.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Others, well, let's just say the jury's still out.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The jury's out. Yeah. Opinions are as varied as the
paint jobs. You can't get on this thing.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But for anyone who needs a quick refresh, we're talking
about an electric powertrain, a range that supposedly leaves gas
guzzlers in the dust, and of course that's stainless steel body.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know what's so fascinating about the cyber truck is
that Tesla's not just trying to improve the pickup. They're
aiming for a total reinvention.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah. They're not known for subtlety.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, this isn't some subtle upgrade. It's about as subtle
as I don't know, as a sledgehammer in a showroom.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's a good one. But you've been digging into these articles,
So let's get into the nuts and bolts of what
they're really saying. Absolutely, and I think we have to
with well, the elephant in the room, or should I
say the very large truck in the garage.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, and that's a key point right there. You highlighted
a bunch of articles that mentioned the cyber truck size
and how that might be a deal breaker for some people,
especially in cities.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, forget about finding a parking spot. Some of these
articles even question if it can fit in the standard
parking garage.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Exactly. It's like, forget parallel parking. This thing needs its
own zip code.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's true, but it's not just about city driving, right.
You also flagged some concerns about the cyber truck's weight
and how that might affect its range, especially compared to
smaller electric vehicles.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's almost like physics is butting heads with marketing. Oh so, well,
electric does often mean efficient, but when you're hauling around
that much stainless steel, it's going to take a lot
more energy to get it moving.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, you're basically driving a tank.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, you actually highlighted a study that compared its energy
consumption to a small tank, which kind of makes you
think twice that whole saving the planet argument.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, hold on, let's unpack that a bit. So the
cyber truck is electric, but its cheer size means it
might not be as eco friendly as some people might think.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Precisely, it highlights a really important point about electric vehicles.
Bigger doesn't always mean better when it comes to efficiency.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It really makes you wonder if Tesla's prioritizing looks over
functionality here, especially with that stainless steel exoskeleton.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And that exoskeleton, well, that's a double edged sword. How So,
on the one hand, it's tough, that's undeniable. But you
know those articles you sent over, they bring up some
valid concerns about maintenance and repairs.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, scratches, dense that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Exactly, stainless steel, it's prone to dings and scratches, and
on a vehicle this large, well, those imperfections would be
hard to miss.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Probably a nightmare to buck out too, probably.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, And speaking of things that might be less durable
than they seem, you also sent over those articles about
the shatterproof glass, and well, let's.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Just say it's debut didn't exactly inspire confidence.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's one way to put it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, so we've got a potentially massive, energy hungry truck
with a shiny exterior that maybe more delicate than it looks.
And did I mention the wait those production delays.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh yeah, the delays, which actually brings us to another
crucial point, the price.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Tag, right, because those early promises of an affordable cyber
truck well haven't aids so well have they.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
To put it lightly, they've gone the way of Bell bottoms.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Not a good look. But it's not just about inflation
and material costs, right, Those are issues with any vehicle
launch these days. But you specifically pointed out some articles
suggesting those early cyber truck price estimates might have been
well a tat optimistic.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Tat optimistic is one way to put it. Yeah, and
those repeated delays haven't helped matters.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So what you're saying is we could be talking about
a final price tag that's significantly higher than what was
initially advertised.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's what many analysts are predicting.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Talk about sticker shock, but hey, those buyers will be
reassured by Tesla's reputation for well tech.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And there's going to be a lot of it in
the cyber truck. You weren't kidding when you said those
articles made it clear this truck it's going to be
absolutely loaded with tech.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's practically a computer on wheels, which I guess raises
an interesting question. Right. You highlighted a few articles pointing
out that at the end of the day, some truck
owners they just want a vehicle it's reliable and easy
to use, and loading a workhorse like a truck up
with potentially unnecessary tech features while some people might see
it as overkill.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's a bit like putting a spoiler on a tractor exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It might look cool, but is it really necessary when
you're out in the field.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Not really, And that actually leads us to another concern
that you flagged repairs.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Right, because Tesla's repair network isn't exactly famous for being
affordable or convenient, and with the cyber truck's unique construction,
I imagine things could get even more complicated.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You're telling me you actually underlined a quote from one
expert comparing it to finding a mechanic who can repair
a time machine.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's a little worrying. And speaking of the future, what
about resale value? Will the cyber truck be a collector's
item or depreciation disaster.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's hard to say. Really, the cyber truck's design is
such a wild card. It could become a classic like age,
like fine wine, or.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It could be like that cardon of milk you forgot
about in the back of the fridge.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, let's hope it's closer to the wine. But you
also found some articles that question whether Tesla's supercharger network
is even equipped to handle a beast like the cyber truck,
especially on long hauls.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's a good point. I mean, range anxiety is one thing,
but range anxiety when you're towing a camper through the desert,
that's a whole other level.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of stress exactly. And you highlighted a study that showed
that towing heavy loads it really eats into the range
of electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It makes sense, right, I mean, the more weight you're pulling,
the more energy you're going to use. So for people
who use their trucks for work or you know, serious hauling,
that's definitely a factor to consider, especially since even finding
a super charger that can accommodate the cyber trucks, shall
we say, unique dimensions, that could be a challenge in itself.
It's not just about the charging infrastructure either, It's also
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about the time it takes to charge.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's right. Even with a supercharger, it takes longer to
charge an electric vehicle than it does to fill up
a gas tank.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So for long trips, especially if you're towing something, that
could add a significant amount of time to your journey.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Absolutely, and you know, you also flag some articles that
raise some concerns about the cyber truck safety, particularly that
angular design.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, those sharp edges, they do look a little intimidating,
especially from a pedestrian's point of view.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I know what you mean. But on the other hand,
stainless steel is incredibly strong.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right, that's true, But strength isn't everything when it comes
to safety.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You're right. Crash tests and real world data those will
ultimately determine how the cyber truck performs in different crash scenarios.
You even found an article that talked about the potential
danger of those sharp edges could pose to pedestrians in
certain types of accidents, A scary thought.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
On a more practical note, though, what about visibility. Those
narrow windows don't exactly screen panoramic views, No.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They don't. Several articles did raise concerns about the cyber
truck's limited visibility, both for the driver and for other
drivers on the road. That shape could easily create blind
spots that make accidents more likely.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's like trying to navigate a parking lot in a
tank cool factor aside, I think I'd want to be
extra cautious. But amidst all of these potential drawbacks, it's
important to remember that the cyber truck isn't the only
electric truck on the market.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's right. In fact, you've found some great articles about
the Ford F one fifty Lightning and the Rivian R
one T.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So for those of us who aren't quite ready to
embrace our inner cyberpunk, there are other options.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Out there exactly. The F one fifty Lightning, for example,
it builds on Ford's long history of making reliable and
capable trucks, which might appeal to those more traditional buyers
who are hesitant to stry too far from what they know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's like the familiar, but with an electric.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Twist, exactly. And then there's the Rivian R one T, which.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You highlighted as well. Yeah, what's the story with that one?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The R one T? It seems to be targeting the
adventure crowd. It's got impressive off road capabilities and a
design that's more in line with what you'd expect from
a rugged, outdoorsy vehicle.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So the electric truck for the off the grid type
In a.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Way, yes, it definitely speaks to a different set of
priorities than the cyber truck, which seems to be more
focused on technology, design and well making a statement.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So we've got a futuristic cyber truck, a classic f
one to fifty with a modern twist, and an adventurous rivian.
It seems like the electric truck market is finally starting
to heat up.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It is an exciting time to be following this. But
even with these new contenders, the cyber truck remains a
fascinating case study.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Because it's such a departure from what we're used to exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's really pushing the boundaries of what a pickup truck
can be, and that's going to generate both excitement and skepticism.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well let's be real controversy, cell. Yeah, but before we
get too caught up in all the hype, I think
we need to circle back to something you brought up earlier.
The interior.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Ah, Yes, the cyber trucks minimalist interior, some might even
say stark.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So we've talked about how the exterior is polarizing, but
what about the inside was the consensus on that. So
we've got this like super tough, futuristic exterior, but then
you step inside and it's minimalist, to say the least.
A lot of the articles you flag, they seem to
find the cyber truck's interior a bit lacking, especially compared
to some of its competitors that are going all in
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on luxury features.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, it's definitely a point of contention. I mean, the
cyber truck's interior is a pretty big departure from those
increasingly luxurious cabins you see in high end trucks these days.
You know, all that plush leather, wood grain accents, heated
and cooled cup.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Holders, all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Exactly, You won't find any of that in the cyber trug.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So it's more about function over form, even on the inside.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That seems to be the case.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One of the articles actually described this ybertruck's interior as
utilitarian chic.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Utilitarian chic, yeah, which I think.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is pretty accurate when you think about it. It's all
about clean lines, durable materials, practicality over luxury.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, I can see that, But the question is will
that fly with truck buyers who are used to a
certain level of comfort. I mean, you found that study
that said a good chunk of truck owners really care
about interior comfort and features.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Absolutely, And that's the big question mark, Isn't it is
Tesla misjudging how important those features are to a lot
of truck buyers.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Is gamble of this for sure?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Totally a gamble that might pay off or it could
backfire and buyers might be put off by what some
articles called a quote surprisingly spartan interior ouch.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So it's make or break time for the cyber trucks interior.
But I think this whole conversation is highlighted something important.
This vehicle is all about polarization.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It really is. The cyber truck is the love it
or hate it phenomenon, but in a stainless steel package.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And that's probably why, even with all the potential downsides,
it's still got everyone talking. It challenges everything we thought
we knew about trucks totally.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's a statement on wheels. But for anyone listening, the
real question is is it the right statement for you?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You've all done your research, You've heard the pros and cons,
the hopes, the hype. Now it's about deciding what matters
most to you as a potential buyer.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Do you love that radical cyber truck design or are
you more drawn to the classic look of the F
one to fifty lightning off roading in the Rivan R
one t or tech heavy cruising in the cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Tough choices, and maybe the most important question of all,
are you okay with the uncertainties of being an early
adopter for a vehicle this revolutionary.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Because let's be real, there's still a lot of unknowns
when it comes to the cyber truck, how it'll actually perform,
how it'll hold up over time, what kind of impact
it'll have on the truck market as a whole.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's a fascinating case study. For sure. We'll be keeping
a close eye on how it all unfolds, as.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
We all will be. But before we wrap things up,
I want to shift ears for a moment and talk
about something else you highlighted in those articles the idea
of the cyber truck as a status symbol.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Ah, yes, the cyber truck is a status symbol debate.
That's an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It is because on the one hand, it's a tesla, right,
and tesla's have become synonymous with well, a certain image.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Luxury, innovation, exclusivity, that sort.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Of thing exactly. But then on the other hand, it's
a truck, and trucks traditionally have represented something completely.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Different, ruggedness, practicality, working class values.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Right. So it's like these two worlds are colliding and
it's creating this really fascinating tension.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Totally, and that tension is what's fueling a lot of
the debate because.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Some people are saying that the cyber truck is going
to be the ultimate status symbol, that it's going to
be the car for celebrities, tech moguls, early adopters who
want to make a statement.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And then there are others who are saying that the
cyber truck is going to be a flop, that it's
too weird, too expensive, too impractical to ever really catch on.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So who's right?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Honestly, it's too early to tell. I mean, we're still months,
maybe even years away from seeing cyber trucks on the
road in any significant numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
True, but that's not stopping people from speculating.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And that's part of the fun, isn't it It is.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I mean, half the fun of a car like this
is imagining who's going to be driving it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And what that says about them exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But beyond all the speculation, there's one thing that's clear.
The cyber truck is generating a ton of buzz, and
that buzz is translating into real world interest absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I mean, you mentioned all those articles you received from listeners,
and then there are the pre orders.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hundreds of thousands of them last time I checked.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's clear that Tesla has tapped into something with the
cyber truck. Whether that's something is enough to revolutionize the
truck market, well, that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So we've got this like super tough exterior, futuristic even,
but then you get inside and it's well, it's minimum.
That's one word for it. Rrect. You know, a lot
of those articles they pointed out how bare bones the
cyber truck's interior seems, especially compared to those other trucks
we were just talking about the ones that are practically
drowning you in luxury features.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's a fair point. I mean, this cyber truck's interior,
it's a real change of pace from those other high
end trucks, you know, the ones with the plush leather
seats and the fancy wood grain, and don't even get
me started on those heated and cooled cup holders.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
They're really going all out these days.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Aren't They tell me about it. But you won't find
any of that in the cyber truck. Nope, not a chance.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So it's all about function over form then, even on
the inside.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That seems to be the philosophy. You know. I read
one article that called it, get this utilitarian.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Cheek, utilitarian cheek. Okay, I kind of see it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Right, I mean it makes sense, doesn't it. It's all
clean lines, durble materials, just very practical, no nonsense. Not
a whole lot of flash.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I could see that. But will it be enough for buyers?
I mean, we were just talking about how important interior
comfort is to a lot of truck owners. You even
found that study about it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're right, And that's the million dollar question, isn't it
is Tesla way off base? Here? Are they totally underestimating
how much those kinds of features matter to people who
buy trucks.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's definitely a risk, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, absolutely a big risk. It could pay off who knows,
or it could totally backfire. Some articles even called the
interior get this surprisingly spartan. Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Ouch? Scott got a sting a little sounds like the
Cyber Trucks interior is going to be a make it
or break it factor for a lot of buyers. But
you know, this whole conversation, it really drives home one
of the key points about this truck, doesn't it this
whole love it or hated thing?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's impossible to ignore. The cyber truck is polarizing, clean
and simple.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's like they took that love it or hated energy
and wrapped it up in a stainless steel package.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You nailed it, and I think that's a big part
of why people are still so obsessed with it, even
with all the potential drawbacks we've talked about. It makes
you think, It makes you question everything you thought you
knew about trucks.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It's a real statement, But for everyone listening, the big
question is is it the right statement for you?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Exactly. You've heard all the arguments, weigh the pros and cons,
considered the hype. Now it all comes down to what
you need, what matters to you as a driver.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are you drawn to that futuristic cyber truck look or
does something like the classic F one to fifty lightning
appeal to you more. Maybe hitting the trails in a
Rivian R one t is more your style, or maybe
you're all in on the cyber trucks tech. There are
a lot of options out there.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
These days, and there's one more thing to consider, maybe
the most important questionable. Are you ready to be an
early adopter? Because this truck is something completely new, completely different.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's uncharted territory, and with uncharted territory comes a certain
amount of risk. We still don't know how the cyber
truck will perform in the real world, how it will
hold up over time. We don't even know what kind
of long term impact it'll have on the truck market.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's a fascinating experiment, that's for sure, one that we're
all going to be watching very closely.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And on that note, I think we're going to have
to wrap things up. But hey, this is just the
beginning of the conversation. To everyone listening, keep those questions
in mind, keep doing your research. This is an exciting
time for the automotive industry, and it seems like there's
something new to discover every day. Who knows, maybe someday
soon we'll all be cruising around in trucks that are
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even more innovative, more sustainable, and yes, maybe even more
out there than the cyber truck. Until next time,
All right, buckle up, because we're diving headfirst into the
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world of the Tesla cybertruck, and judging by the stack
of articles you all sent in, it's obvious you're ready
to go deep on this thing.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah. It's been making headlines for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's not just a truck, is it. It's a statement.
Some would even say the future of pickups.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Others, well, let's just say the jury's still out.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The jury's out. Yeah. Opinions are as varied as the
paint jobs. You can't get on this thing.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But for anyone who needs a quick refresh, we're talking
about an electric powertrain, a range that supposedly leaves gas
guzzlers in the dust, and of course that's stainless steel body.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know what's so fascinating about the cyber truck is
that Tesla's not just trying to improve the pickup. They're
aiming for a total reinvention.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah. They're not known for subtlety.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, this isn't some subtle upgrade. It's about as subtle
as I don't know, as a sledgehammer in a showroom.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's a good one. But you've been digging into these articles,
So let's get into the nuts and bolts of what
they're really saying. Absolutely, and I think we have to
with well, the elephant in the room, or should I
say the very large truck in the garage.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, and that's a key point right there. You highlighted
a bunch of articles that mentioned the cyber truck size
and how that might be a deal breaker for some people,
especially in cities.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, forget about finding a parking spot. Some of these
articles even question if it can fit in the standard
parking garage.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Exactly. It's like, forget parallel parking. This thing needs its
own zip code.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's true, but it's not just about city driving, right.
You also flagged some concerns about the cyber truck's weight
and how that might affect its range, especially compared to
smaller electric vehicles.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's almost like physics is butting heads with marketing. Oh so, well,
electric does often mean efficient, but when you're hauling around
that much stainless steel, it's going to take a lot
more energy to get it moving.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, you're basically driving a tank.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, you actually highlighted a study that compared its energy
consumption to a small tank, which kind of makes you
think twice that whole saving the planet argument.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, hold on, let's unpack that a bit. So the
cyber truck is electric, but its cheer size means it
might not be as eco friendly as some people might think.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Precisely, it highlights a really important point about electric vehicles.
Bigger doesn't always mean better when it comes to efficiency.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It really makes you wonder if Tesla's prioritizing looks over
functionality here, especially with that stainless steel exoskeleton.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And that exoskeleton, well, that's a double edged sword. How So,
on the one hand, it's tough, that's undeniable. But you
know those articles you sent over, they bring up some
valid concerns about maintenance and repairs.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, scratches, dense that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Exactly, stainless steel, it's prone to dings and scratches, and
on a vehicle this large, well, those imperfections would be
hard to miss.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Probably a nightmare to buck out too, probably.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, And speaking of things that might be less durable
than they seem, you also sent over those articles about
the shatterproof glass, and well, let's.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Just say it's debut didn't exactly inspire confidence.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's one way to put it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, so we've got a potentially massive, energy hungry truck
with a shiny exterior that maybe more delicate than it looks.
And did I mention the wait those production delays.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh yeah, the delays, which actually brings us to another
crucial point, the price.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Tag, right, because those early promises of an affordable cyber
truck well haven't aids so well have they.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
To put it lightly, they've gone the way of Bell bottoms.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Not a good look. But it's not just about inflation
and material costs, right, Those are issues with any vehicle
launch these days. But you specifically pointed out some articles
suggesting those early cyber truck price estimates might have been
well a tat optimistic.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Tat optimistic is one way to put it. Yeah, and
those repeated delays haven't helped matters.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So what you're saying is we could be talking about
a final price tag that's significantly higher than what was
initially advertised.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's what many analysts are predicting.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Talk about sticker shock, but hey, those buyers will be
reassured by Tesla's reputation for well tech.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And there's going to be a lot of it in
the cyber truck. You weren't kidding when you said those
articles made it clear this truck it's going to be
absolutely loaded with tech.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's practically a computer on wheels, which I guess raises
an interesting question. Right. You highlighted a few articles pointing
out that at the end of the day, some truck
owners they just want a vehicle it's reliable and easy
to use, and loading a workhorse like a truck up
with potentially unnecessary tech features while some people might see
it as overkill.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's a bit like putting a spoiler on a tractor exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It might look cool, but is it really necessary when
you're out in the field.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Not really, And that actually leads us to another concern
that you flagged repairs.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Right, because Tesla's repair network isn't exactly famous for being
affordable or convenient, and with the cyber truck's unique construction,
I imagine things could get even more complicated.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You're telling me you actually underlined a quote from one
expert comparing it to finding a mechanic who can repair
a time machine.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's a little worrying. And speaking of the future, what
about resale value? Will the cyber truck be a collector's
item or depreciation disaster.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's hard to say. Really, the cyber truck's design is
such a wild card. It could become a classic like age,
like fine wine, or.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It could be like that cardon of milk you forgot
about in the back of the fridge.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, let's hope it's closer to the wine. But you
also found some articles that question whether Tesla's supercharger network
is even equipped to handle a beast like the cyber truck,
especially on long hauls.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's a good point. I mean, range anxiety is one thing,
but range anxiety when you're towing a camper through the desert,
that's a whole other level.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of stress exactly. And you highlighted a study that showed
that towing heavy loads it really eats into the range
of electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It makes sense, right, I mean, the more weight you're pulling,
the more energy you're going to use. So for people
who use their trucks for work or you know, serious hauling,
that's definitely a factor to consider, especially since even finding
a super charger that can accommodate the cyber trucks, shall
we say, unique dimensions, that could be a challenge in itself.
It's not just about the charging infrastructure either, It's also
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about the time it takes to charge.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's right. Even with a supercharger, it takes longer to
charge an electric vehicle than it does to fill up
a gas tank.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So for long trips, especially if you're towing something, that
could add a significant amount of time to your journey.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Absolutely, and you know, you also flag some articles that
raise some concerns about the cyber truck safety, particularly that
angular design.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, those sharp edges, they do look a little intimidating,
especially from a pedestrian's point of view.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I know what you mean. But on the other hand,
stainless steel is incredibly strong.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right, that's true, But strength isn't everything when it comes
to safety.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You're right. Crash tests and real world data those will
ultimately determine how the cyber truck performs in different crash scenarios.
You even found an article that talked about the potential
danger of those sharp edges could pose to pedestrians in
certain types of accidents, A scary thought.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
On a more practical note, though, what about visibility. Those
narrow windows don't exactly screen panoramic views, No.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They don't. Several articles did raise concerns about the cyber
truck's limited visibility, both for the driver and for other
drivers on the road. That shape could easily create blind
spots that make accidents more likely.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's like trying to navigate a parking lot in a
tank cool factor aside, I think I'd want to be
extra cautious. But amidst all of these potential drawbacks, it's
important to remember that the cyber truck isn't the only
electric truck on the market.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's right. In fact, you've found some great articles about
the Ford F one fifty Lightning and the Rivian R
one T.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So for those of us who aren't quite ready to
embrace our inner cyberpunk, there are other options.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Out there exactly. The F one fifty Lightning, for example,
it builds on Ford's long history of making reliable and
capable trucks, which might appeal to those more traditional buyers
who are hesitant to stry too far from what they know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's like the familiar, but with an electric.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Twist, exactly. And then there's the Rivian R one T, which.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You highlighted as well. Yeah, what's the story with that one?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The R one T? It seems to be targeting the
adventure crowd. It's got impressive off road capabilities and a
design that's more in line with what you'd expect from
a rugged, outdoorsy vehicle.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So the electric truck for the off the grid type
In a.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Way, yes, it definitely speaks to a different set of
priorities than the cyber truck, which seems to be more
focused on technology, design and well making a statement.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So we've got a futuristic cyber truck, a classic f
one to fifty with a modern twist, and an adventurous rivian.
It seems like the electric truck market is finally starting
to heat up.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It is an exciting time to be following this. But
even with these new contenders, the cyber truck remains a
fascinating case study.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Because it's such a departure from what we're used to exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's really pushing the boundaries of what a pickup truck
can be, and that's going to generate both excitement and skepticism.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well let's be real controversy, cell. Yeah, but before we
get too caught up in all the hype, I think
we need to circle back to something you brought up earlier.
The interior.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Ah, Yes, the cyber trucks minimalist interior, some might even
say stark.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So we've talked about how the exterior is polarizing, but
what about the inside was the consensus on that. So
we've got this like super tough, futuristic exterior, but then
you step inside and it's minimalist, to say the least.
A lot of the articles you flag, they seem to
find the cyber truck's interior a bit lacking, especially compared
to some of its competitors that are going all in
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on luxury features.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, it's definitely a point of contention. I mean, the
cyber truck's interior is a pretty big departure from those
increasingly luxurious cabins you see in high end trucks these days.
You know, all that plush leather, wood grain accents, heated
and cooled cup.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Holders, all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Exactly, You won't find any of that in the cyber trug.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So it's more about function over form, even on the inside.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That seems to be the case.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One of the articles actually described this ybertruck's interior as
utilitarian chic.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Utilitarian chic, yeah, which I think.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is pretty accurate when you think about it. It's all
about clean lines, durable materials, practicality over luxury.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, I can see that, But the question is will
that fly with truck buyers who are used to a
certain level of comfort. I mean, you found that study
that said a good chunk of truck owners really care
about interior comfort and features.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Absolutely, And that's the big question mark, Isn't it is
Tesla misjudging how important those features are to a lot
of truck buyers.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Is gamble of this for sure?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Totally a gamble that might pay off or it could
backfire and buyers might be put off by what some
articles called a quote surprisingly spartan interior ouch.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So it's make or break time for the cyber trucks interior.
But I think this whole conversation is highlighted something important.
This vehicle is all about polarization.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It really is. The cyber truck is the love it
or hate it phenomenon, but in a stainless steel package.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And that's probably why, even with all the potential downsides,
it's still got everyone talking. It challenges everything we thought
we knew about trucks totally.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's a statement on wheels. But for anyone listening, the
real question is is it the right statement for you?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You've all done your research, You've heard the pros and cons,
the hopes, the hype. Now it's about deciding what matters
most to you as a potential buyer.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Do you love that radical cyber truck design or are
you more drawn to the classic look of the F
one to fifty lightning off roading in the Rivan R
one t or tech heavy cruising in the cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Tough choices, and maybe the most important question of all,
are you okay with the uncertainties of being an early
adopter for a vehicle this revolutionary.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Because let's be real, there's still a lot of unknowns
when it comes to the cyber truck, how it'll actually perform,
how it'll hold up over time, what kind of impact
it'll have on the truck market as a whole.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's a fascinating case study. For sure. We'll be keeping
a close eye on how it all unfolds, as.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
We all will be. But before we wrap things up,
I want to shift ears for a moment and talk
about something else you highlighted in those articles the idea
of the cyber truck as a status symbol.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Ah, yes, the cyber truck is a status symbol debate.
That's an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It is because on the one hand, it's a tesla, right,
and tesla's have become synonymous with well, a certain image.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Luxury, innovation, exclusivity, that sort.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Of thing exactly. But then on the other hand, it's
a truck, and trucks traditionally have represented something completely.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Different, ruggedness, practicality, working class values.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Right. So it's like these two worlds are colliding and
it's creating this really fascinating tension.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Totally, and that tension is what's fueling a lot of
the debate because.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Some people are saying that the cyber truck is going
to be the ultimate status symbol, that it's going to
be the car for celebrities, tech moguls, early adopters who
want to make a statement.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And then there are others who are saying that the
cyber truck is going to be a flop, that it's
too weird, too expensive, too impractical to ever really catch on.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So who's right?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Honestly, it's too early to tell. I mean, we're still months,
maybe even years away from seeing cyber trucks on the
road in any significant numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
True, but that's not stopping people from speculating.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And that's part of the fun, isn't it It is.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I mean, half the fun of a car like this
is imagining who's going to be driving it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And what that says about them exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But beyond all the speculation, there's one thing that's clear.
The cyber truck is generating a ton of buzz, and
that buzz is translating into real world interest absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I mean, you mentioned all those articles you received from listeners,
and then there are the pre orders.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hundreds of thousands of them last time I checked.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's clear that Tesla has tapped into something with the
cyber truck. Whether that's something is enough to revolutionize the
truck market, well, that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So we've got this like super tough exterior, futuristic even,
but then you get inside and it's well, it's minimum.
That's one word for it. Rrect. You know, a lot
of those articles they pointed out how bare bones the
cyber truck's interior seems, especially compared to those other trucks
we were just talking about the ones that are practically
drowning you in luxury features.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's a fair point. I mean, this cyber truck's interior,
it's a real change of pace from those other high
end trucks, you know, the ones with the plush leather
seats and the fancy wood grain, and don't even get
me started on those heated and cooled cup holders.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
They're really going all out these days.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Aren't They tell me about it. But you won't find
any of that in the cyber truck. Nope, not a chance.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So it's all about function over form then, even on
the inside.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That seems to be the philosophy. You know. I read
one article that called it, get this utilitarian.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Cheek, utilitarian cheek. Okay, I kind of see it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Right, I mean it makes sense, doesn't it. It's all
clean lines, durble materials, just very practical, no nonsense. Not
a whole lot of flash.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I could see that. But will it be enough for buyers?
I mean, we were just talking about how important interior
comfort is to a lot of truck owners. You even
found that study about it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're right, And that's the million dollar question, isn't it
is Tesla way off base? Here? Are they totally underestimating
how much those kinds of features matter to people who
buy trucks.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's definitely a risk, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, absolutely a big risk. It could pay off who knows,
or it could totally backfire. Some articles even called the
interior get this surprisingly spartan. Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Ouch? Scott got a sting a little sounds like the
Cyber Trucks interior is going to be a make it
or break it factor for a lot of buyers. But
you know, this whole conversation, it really drives home one
of the key points about this truck, doesn't it this
whole love it or hated thing?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's impossible to ignore. The cyber truck is polarizing, clean
and simple.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's like they took that love it or hated energy
and wrapped it up in a stainless steel package.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You nailed it, and I think that's a big part
of why people are still so obsessed with it, even
with all the potential drawbacks we've talked about. It makes
you think, It makes you question everything you thought you
knew about trucks.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It's a real statement, But for everyone listening, the big
question is is it the right statement for you?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Exactly. You've heard all the arguments, weigh the pros and cons,
considered the hype. Now it all comes down to what
you need, what matters to you as a driver.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are you drawn to that futuristic cyber truck look or
does something like the classic F one to fifty lightning
appeal to you more. Maybe hitting the trails in a
Rivian R one t is more your style, or maybe
you're all in on the cyber trucks tech. There are
a lot of options out there.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
These days, and there's one more thing to consider, maybe
the most important questionable. Are you ready to be an
early adopter? Because this truck is something completely new, completely different.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's uncharted territory, and with uncharted territory comes a certain
amount of risk. We still don't know how the cyber
truck will perform in the real world, how it will
hold up over time. We don't even know what kind
of long term impact it'll have on the truck market.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's a fascinating experiment, that's for sure, one that we're
all going to be watching very closely.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And on that note, I think we're going to have
to wrap things up. But hey, this is just the
beginning of the conversation. To everyone listening, keep those questions
in mind, keep doing your research. This is an exciting
time for the automotive industry, and it seems like there's
something new to discover every day. Who knows, maybe someday
soon we'll all be cruising around in trucks that are
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even more innovative, more sustainable, and yes, maybe even more
out there than the cyber truck. Until next time,
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