November 5, 2024 • 45 mins
explores the evolving traditions and practices surrounding Thanksgiving in the United States. It examines the holiday's historical roots, its transformation into a national celebration, and how modern trends like food technology, consumer preferences, and environmental awareness are reshaping how Americans observe Thanksgiving. The text also investigates the changing ways that food is prepared, sourced, and shared during this holiday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, and welcome to the deep Dive. We're doing
something a little different today. We're diving deep into Thanksgiving,
but not the typical stuff you might be thinking of.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, no, no, right, like.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Football and turkey and all that. We're gonna go way.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Beyond that, way beyond.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So you sent me some really interesting podcast transcripts all
about Thanksgiving history and how it's evolved. And I gotta say,
I was really surprised by some of the stuff I learned.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, it's amazing what we think we know right about
this holiday. Yeah, but there's so many like layers underneath you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, I had no idea, like how much this holiday
has actually changed over time, and how much it actually
reflects like bigger cultural shifts in America. Right, We're gonna
talk about everything, like from the real story of that
very first Thanksgiving to how climate change might impact the
holiday's future.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah and Friendsgiving.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh yeah, clearly interesting, I am. Yeah, it's super interesting
how things like that are changing Thanksgiving today. But before
we into all that, let's zoom out for a minute.
Like it's easy to think of Thanksgiving as just an
American thing, right, But the truth is, the whole idea
of celebrating a harvest is pretty universal, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, it is. Harvest festivals are found in cultures all
over the world. For example, some Native American tribes celebrate
the green Corn Ceremony, Oh Wow, which is about more
than just food. It's a time of spiritual renewal and
forgiveness and strengthening community ties.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's so interesting. It makes you think about how a
successful harvest was truly a matter of survival for many cultures.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Exactly, and that sense of gratitude for just like the
bounty of nature, it's something that goes beyond cultural boundaries.
You see it in the Jewish festival a Sukat, where
families build these temporary shelters really yeah, and they decorate
them with a harvest bounty. Or think about the mid
autumn festival in East Asia with its mooncakes and lanterns.
(01:54):
It's all about family abundance, giving thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It seems like every culture has its own way of
marking this time of year and acknowledging that dependence on
the natural world.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It connects us all in a way.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay, so let's bring it back to the US now
and that Thanksgiving story that we're all pretty much familiar
with the sixteen twenty one gathering between the Pilgrims and
the Wampanoag tribe. But from what I was reading in
the transcripts, the reality of that event is a bit
more complicated than the picture we often see. Right, It's
not as simple as we think.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's not the Womponoa. They weren't initially invited to the
Pilgrim's harvest celebration. They only joined after they heard celebratory gunfire.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Wait seriously, I never knew that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, and their presence was more about diplomacy than shared celebration.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It was a time of complex power dynamics, and the
Wampanoag were just very skilled navigating that difficult political situation.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That definitely challenges the simple narrative of just a harmonious gathering.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It does. It reminds us that history is rarely black
and white.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Right. Yeah, so we've gone from ancient harvest rituals to
this pivotal moment in early American history. But how did
Thanksgiving go from this one off event to an official
national holiday.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well that's where Sarah Josepha Hale comes in. Oh yeah,
the nineteenth century magazine editor who basically made Thanksgiving happen.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
She's like the mother of Thanksgiving. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hale was a remarkable woman.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
For seventeen years she campaigned tirelessly for a national Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Seventeen years. Wow. That's dedication, it is.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And she used her platform as a magazine editor to
promote this idea, even going so far as to suggest
recipes and customs. Wow. She believed that a unified holiday
could help heal a divided nation, especially during the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And in fact, her vision eventually resonated with President Lincoln, Wow,
who officially proclaimed Thanksgiving a national holiday in eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Wow. I knew that she was influential, but I didn't
realize she was that persistent. Imagine writing to five different
presidents just to make your case.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's a testament to her belief in the power of
this holiday to bring people together.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, and it worked. Thanksgiving quickly became this beloved tradition.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But even then, it continued to evolve, right, and.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Those changes often reflected like broader shifts in American society.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So let's fast forward a bit now, how did we
go from those early celebrations to the Thanksgiving that we
know today.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, think about the Gilded Age, for example, Thanksgiving feast
became all about extravagance and showing off, and then the
Great Depression hit and suddenly it was about sharing, resourcefulness,
making do with what you had.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And then World War II came along and turned Thanksgiving
into this symbol of American identity and resilience.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I can see how each of these major events
would shape people's attitudes toward a holiday that's focused on
gratitude and abundance exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And then the post war era, Yeah, you see the
rise of the turkey industry, tell abs, football games, the
Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, all of these elements become part
of our modern Thanksgiving tradition.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, so we've got like the historical backdrop now, but
what about alternative perspectives on Thanksgiving. You mentioned friends Giving earlier,
and I'm really interested in learning more about that. And
also the National Day of Mourning that's observed by some
Native Americans.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, let's dive into those. The National Day of Mourning.
It's a powerful counter narrative to the traditional Thanksgiving story.
It's observed by some Native Americans at Plymouth Rock. Oh wow.
And it provides a space to remember the sacrifices and
losses that their ancestors experienced.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, it's a really important perspective to acknowledge and friendsgiving
what's the story there? It seems like a relatively new phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It is, and it reflects changing social patterns, especially among
young adults. Yeah, it's about choosing your own family, okay,
and celebrating with the people who matter most to you,
regardless of blood ties. Ok. It's a response to the
growing fluidity of family structures and are increasingly mobile lives.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Right. It makes sense that people would want to create
their own traditions and communities in a world that's like
constantly changing. Yeah, but all this talk of feasting and
celebrating brings up another crush. All this wouldn't be possible
without this massive food system working behind the scenes, right.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
She wouldn't. It's an incredible logistical feat.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Think about the sheer volume of food consumed during Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh my gosh, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
For example, in just the two weeks leading up to Thanksgiving, Okay,
almost a third of all sweet potatoes sold in an
entire year fly off the shelves.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Wow. I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, that's a lot of pressure on the supply chain.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That's a lot of sweet potatoes.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It is retailers like Walmart, they start stocking up on
Thanksgiving essentials months in advance. Wow. And for farmers, it's
a high stakes game. They're making critical decisions about their
crops and livestock months ahead of time based on the
anticipated Thanksgiving demand.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I imagine, for.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Example, turkey farmers have to predict exactly how many birds
they'll need to meet that Thanksgiving rush.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's all a guessing game. Yeah. It really highlights how
interconnected we all are, even when it comes to something
as seemingly simple as a holiday meal.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Exactly. And speaking of the meal, it's fascinating how the
evolution of the American food industry has shaped our iconic
Thanksgiving dishes.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, tell me more.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like, for instance, green bean casserole. Did you know that
Campbell's soup is largely responsible for making this a Thanksgiving staple?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it all started with an employee recipe back in
the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And Cranberry sauce ocean spray played a major role in
transforming cranberries from a regional New England specialty into a
nationwide Thanksgiving essential.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So even something as simple as cranberry sauce has a
whole backstory.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It does. And we can't forget about the frozen food industry,
which revolutionized Thanksgiving. Yeah, suddenly you didn't have to worry
about finding a fresh turkey days in advance. Yeah, you
just grab one from the freezer.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right. It was game changer for busy families, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And now grocery stores have become like Thanksgiving command centers.
They have offering everything from pre made sides to complete
Thanksgiving meals. It's true, it's all about convenience and catering
to our busy, modern lifestyles.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I know I've definitely been tempted by those pre made pies.
But it's not just about convenience, is it. Technology is
changing the way we cook Thanksgiving dinner in some pretty
amazing ways.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, it's not just about convenience anymore. It's about precision
and food safety and maybe even a little bit of
Thanksgiving magic.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, I'm intrigued. Tell me more about this Thanksgiving magic.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well. Think about smart ovens, for example, they're adapting to
Thanksgiving cooking patterns okay, with extended use features and holiday
specific modes and temperature monitoring devices are taking the guesswork
out of cooking that big bird, ensuring a safe and
delicious meal. No more unto cook turkeys. That's a win,
it is. And don't forget about kitchen design. We're seeing
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more homes with dedicated holiday zones.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Like a Thanksgiving command center.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Exactly, complete with extra outlets, specialized storage, and everything you
need to tackle that Thanksgiving feast.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's like Thanksgiving headquarters.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But speaking of cooking, it used to be that learning
to cook Thanksgiving dinner was like this family secret right
passed down from generation to generation. Yeah, it seems like
that's changing, though it is.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Cooking knowledge is more accessible than ever before thanks to
the Internet.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The Internet has changed everything it has.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Between cooking shows and YouTube channels and recipe websites and
social media, anyone can learn to cook a Thanksgiving feast
these days.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's true. You can find like step by step video
tutorials and even entire online communities dedicated to Thanksgiving cooking.
It's like having a global network of Thanksgiving experts right at.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Your fingertips exactly, And this democratization of cooking knowledge yeah,
has been especially important for people with dietary restrictions. Right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The Thanksgiving table is no longer a one size fits
all situation. We're seeing a huge rise in demand for
plant based alternatives, yeah, gluten free options, dairy free recipes,
even keto friendly Thanksgiving dishes.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It's wonderful to see Thanksgiving is becoming more inclusive and
welcoming to everyone, regardless of their dietary choices.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, we've covered a lot of ground here. We have
from ancient harvest rituals to the modern Thanksgiving feast, from
the impact of technology to the evolving ways we approach
the holiday. Right, But there's one more thing I want
to bring up before we move on. Food waste. It's
a big issue during Thanksgiving, huge issue and something that
we all need to be more mindful of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You're right, the amount of food that gets thrown away
each Thanksgiving is staggering.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It is. It's really heartbreaking, and it's not just about
the wasted money. It's about the environmental impact of producing
all that food and then just tossing it in the trash.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And thankfully, we're starting to see a shift in attitudes
and behaviors.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
People are becoming more aware of the problem, yeah, and
taking steps to reduce their Thanksgiving footprint.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So what can we do about it?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah? There are a lot of things. Portion planning is key, right,
Choosing smaller turkeys, yeah, making accurate guess counts, and investing
in better storage solutions like vacuum sealers and specialized containers
to help preserve those leftovers for longer.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
What about composting.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Composting is a fantastic way to give those food scraps
a second life and reduce the amount of waste going
to landfills. And even grocery stores are getting involved.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh wow, that's great, offering.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
More precise portion cutting services and helping customers buy the
right amount of food.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's wonderful. It sounds like a collaborative effort is needed
to really tackle this problem.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It does. It's encouraging to see how everyone is coming
together to make Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah. And technology can play a role too, right. There
are all those apps and websites that offer creative leftover recipes.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Absolutely, It's all about empowering people to make more conscious
choices without sacrificing the joy and abundance of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, so we've talked about the past, we've talked about
the present. What about the future of Thanksgiving. What trends
are you seeing that might shape the holiday in the
years to come.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, I think technology will continue to play a huge role.
AI powered ovens, oh yes, smart kitchens and even personalized
meal planning apps wow, are already changing how we approach cooking.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's like having a Thanksgiving cooking expert built right into
your oven exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And meal planning apps are changed the game, especially for
younger generations who are used to having everything organized and scheduled.
These apps can help you create detailed shopping lists oh wow,
plan your cooking timeline, and even send you reminders.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's pretty awesome. I can see how that would be
super helpful, especially for a big meal like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It is, and the way we source ingredients is evolving too.
Online grocery delivery and pre ordering are becoming increasingly.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Popular makes things a lot easier, it does.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's all about making Thanksgiving less stressful and more enjoyable. Yeah, exactly,
and I think we'll see even more creative solutions emerging,
like specialized Thanksgiving preparation facilities and ghost kitchens.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Whoa ghost kitchens? What are those?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Imagine a place that prepares all the Thanksgiving components for you,
ready to be assembled at home. It's like a Thanksgiving
meal kit on steroids.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's amazing, especially for busy people who still want that
homemade Thanksgiving experience.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So, we've got technology changing things in the kitchen and
even the way we get our food. But what about
the bigger picture? How might things like climate change impact
Thanksgiving in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's great question. Climate change is a big concern and
it could definitely have an impact on the holiday. Yeah,
the traditional ingredients we rely on might become harder to
come by, or the timing of the holiday itself might
need to shift. Oh wow, to align with changing growing seasons.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's a sobering thought, it is, and it's something that
we need to consider.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, it's a challenge, but it's also an opportunity to
get creative and rethink our Thanksgiving traditions. Yeah, we might
see a rise in new Thanksgiving dishes featuring climate resilient ingredients,
or maybe we'll embrace more plant based off options to
reduce our environmental footprint.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, that's a really good idea.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's fascinating to think about the possibilities.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It is. But no matter how Thanksgiving evolves, it seems
like those core values of the holiday are likely to endure.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I think so too. At its heart, Thanksgiving is about gratitude, community,
and the simple act of coming together to share a meal. Yeah,
those are values that transcend time and cultural boundaries.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's a good reminder, especially in a world that can
sometimes feel divided and uncertain. Thanksgiving reminds us to focus
on what truly matters.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, we've covered so much in this deep dive, from
ancient harvest rituals to the future of the holiday.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's amazing how much there is to unpack.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It is. I feel like we've only just scratched the
surface we have.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But that's the beauty of a deep dive like this.
It's about peeling back the layers and uncovering the unexpected
stories behind something we thought we knew.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So well, that's so true. I mean, who would have
thought there'd be so much to say about the evolution
of cranberry sauce, right, But it's a.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Great example of how seemingly simple traditions can have these
fascinating backstories. Yeah, Ocean Spray's marketing campaigns in the nineteen
thirties completely changed how Americans viewed and consumed cranberries.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, they went from this fresh regional fruit to a
canned convenience product that can be enjoyed nationwide.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's like they created a whole new Thanksgiving tradition exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And it's not just cranberries. The rise of frozen turkeys
in the nineteen fifties, oh yeah, thanks to companies like Butterball,
revolutionized how we planned and prepared those Thanksgiving meals.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I can imatch.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You no longer had to worry about finding a fresh
turkey days in advance. You could just grab them from
the freezer and be good to go.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's amazing how those innovations become so ingrained in our traditions.
Speaking of which I have to admit, those prepared foods
at the grocery store have become a Thanksgiving life saver
for me.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh absolutely, it's become so common.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
They really have.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Grocery stores are practically Thanksgiving command centers now, with entire
sections dedicated to prey made sides, desserts, and even complete meals.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, It's like having a personal chef at your disposal, right,
I mean, who hasn't been tempted by those perfectly golden,
pre made pies.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's a testament to how our lifestyles.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Have changed, Yeah, they have.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
People are busier than ever, and sometimes a little help
in the kitchen is exactly what you need to make
Thanksgiving happen.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And it doesn't make you any less grateful, right, I
don't know, it's just a different way of approaching the
holiday exactly. And this adaptability is also evident in how
we're learning to cook these days.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Remember when it was all about family recipes passed down
through generations. Yeah, like you had to earn the right
to make Grandma's famous stuffing exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, those days aren't entirely gone, no, But now cooking
knowledge is more accessible than ever before thanks to the internet.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Right, the internet has changed everything.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It has. Between cooking shows, YouTube channels, recipe websites, and
social media, anyone can learn to cook at Thanksgiving feast
these days.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's pretty amazing it is.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You can find step by step video tutorials, oh yeah,
troubleshooting tips yeah, and even entire online communities dedicated to
Thanksgiving cooking.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's like having a global network of Thanksgiving experts right
at your fingertips, right, and that's got to be especially
helpful for people with dietary restrictions.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, it is. I know. There are a lot more
options out there now than there.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Used to be. Absolutely, you're absolutely right. The Thanksgiving tatle
is no longer a one size fits all situation. We're
seeing a huge rise in demand for plant based alternatives. Yeah,
gluten free options, dairy free recipes, and even keto friendly
Thanksgiving dishes.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's like Thanksgiving is finally catching up to the reality
of diverse dietary needs and preferences.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And it's not just about accommodating restrictions. It's about embracing
new flavors and culinary innovations. Yeah, plant based meat alternatives
are getting better all the time. And there's some incredibly
creative gluten free and dairy free recipes out there. Oh yeah,
that are just as delicious as the traditional versions.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
That's fantastic, it is. Okay, there's another side to all
this abundance that we need to talk about, right, food waste. Yes,
it's a major issue during Thanksgiving, and something we all
need to be more mindful of You're.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Absolutely right, the amount of food that gets thrown away
each Thanksgiving is staggering.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's heartbreaking, and it's not just about wasted money. It's
about the environmental impact of producing all that food and
then just tossing it in the trash.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right, And thankfully, we are starting to see a shift
in attitudes and behaviors. People are becoming more aware of
the problem and taking steps to reduce their Thanksgiving footprint.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So like choosing smaller turkeys exactly, and making more accurate
guess counts to avoid overbuying.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
In the first place, right, and investing in better storage
solutions Okay, like vacuum sealers and specialized containers to help
preserve those leftovers for longer.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
What about composting.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Composting is a fantastic way to give those food scrabs
a second life life and reduce the amount of waste
going to landfills. And even grocery stores are getting involved,
offering more precise portion cutting services and helping customers buy
the right amount of food.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It sounds like a collaborative effort is needed to tackle
this problem.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Is it's encouraging to see how everyone is coming together
to make Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And technology can play a role too, Right, there are
all those apps and websites that offer creative leftover recipes.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Absolutely, it's all about empowering people to make more conscious
choices without sacrificing the joy and abundance of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, so we've talked about the past and the present.
What about the future of Thanksgiving? What trends are you
seeing that might shape the holiday and the years to come.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, I think technology will continue to play a huge role.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Ai powered ovens, Oh yeah, smart kitchens and even personalized
meal planning apps are already changing how we approach cooking.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's like having a Thanksgiving cooking expert built right into
your oven exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And meal planning apps are changing the game, especially for
younger generations who are used to having everything organized as scheduled.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
These app can help you create detailed shopping lists, play
in your cooking timeline, and even send you reminders.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I can see how that would be helpful, especially for
a big meal like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And the way we source ingredients is evolving too. Yeah.
Online grocery delivery and pre ordering are becoming increasingly popular.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's all about making Thanksgiving less stressful and more enjoyable, exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
And I think we'll see even more creative solutions emerging,
like specialized Thanksgiving preparation facilities and ghost kitchens.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Whoa ghost kitchens? What are those?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Imagine a place that prepares all the Thanksgiving components for you,
ready to be assembled at home. Oh wow, it's like
a Thanksgiving meal kit on steroids.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That sounds amazing, especially for busy people who still want
that homemade Thanksgiving experience.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So we've got technology changing things in the kitchen and
even the way we get our food. But what about
the bigger picture? How might things like climate change impact
Thanksgiving in the future.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's a great question. Climate change is a big concern
and it could definitely have an impact on the holiday.
The traditional ingredients we rely on might become harder to
come by, or the timing of the holiday itself might
need to shift to align with change in growing seasons.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It's a sobering thought, but it's something we need to consider.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It is. It's a challenge, but it's also an opportunity
to get creative and rethink our Thanksgiving traditions. We might
see a rise in new Thanksgiving dishes featuring climate resilient ingredients,
or maybe we'll embrace more plant based options to reduce
our environmental footprint.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's fascinating to think about the possibilities. But no matter
how Thanksgiving evolves, it seems like the core values of
the holiday are likely to endure.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think so too. At its heart, Thanksgiving is about gratitude, community,
and the simple act of coming together to share a meal. Yeah,
those are values that transcend time and cultural boundaries.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's a good reminder, especially in world that can sometimes
feel divided and uncertain. Thanksgiving reminds us to focus on
what truly matters.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, we've covered so much in this deep dive, from
ancient harvest rituals to the future of the holiday. It's
been an amazing journey through the history, evolution, and cultural
significance of Thanksgiving. But I have feeling there's still more
to uncover.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Right there is. There's always more to uncover, especially with
a holiday like Thanksgiving so rich and multifaceted. It's really
been fascinating to explore how this holiday reflects, like the
incredible diversity of American.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Life it really does. It's like a tapestry woven from
so many individual experiences and family traditions and cultural influences. Right,
And while that traditional Thanksgiving feast is at the center
of it all, it seems like there are so many
different ways people are celebrating and making the holiday their
own these days.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, and that's reflected in some interesting
trends we've been seeing. For example, the Smithsonian folk Life
Festival Archives have documented the rise of these hybrid harvest
festivals in cities across the country. Oh wow, they're blending
different cultural celebrations with traditional Thanksgiving observances.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh that's really cool. So it's not just about incorporating
different dishes into the meal. It's about bringing together different
cultural traditions and ways of celebrating exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It reflects the changing demographics of America and the increasing
desire to incorporate diverse cultural heritages into the Thanksgiving mix.
And it's not just about food. It's about storytelling, music, dance,
all these beautiful ways of expressing gratitude and sharing traditions.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It sounds like Thanksgiving is becoming even more vibrant and inclusive.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It is, and speaking of inclusivity. Yeah, we can't forget
about friendsgiving, which has become such a big phenomenon, especially
among younger generations.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
The Pew Research Center found that almost half of all
adults under thirty participate in some form of friendsgiving wow,
either as an alternative to or in addition to, traditional
family gatherings.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. In a world
where people are more mobile and family structures are becoming
more diverse, friends giving offers a way to create that
sense of belonging and community wherever you are. Right, it's
about choosing your own family and celebrating with the people
who matter most to you exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And it's not just happening in private homes. The Urban
Institute found that friends giving celebrations are popping up in
college dorms, Oh wow, apartment complexes, and even workplaces.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's like this organic movement bringing people together and strengthening
social bonds.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
It's amazing how this relatively new tradition has taken root
and spread so quickly. It speaks to that fundamental human
need for connection and belonging.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And it's not just individuals who are finding creative ways
to celebrate. Right. I was reading about how community organizations
are transforming the way they approach Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yes, the National Coalition of Community Centers reports the traditional
giveaways are being replaced by more interactive and empowering events.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
So it's about more than just providing a meal exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's about fostering a sense of belonging and shared experiences. Okay,
I think community feasts, cooking workshops, cultural exchange programs.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The United Way found that a vast majority of their
member organizations now prioritize these kinds of participatory Thanksgiving programs
over simple charitable distributions.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's a shift from a charity model to a community
building model, it is. That's fantastic. Do you have any
examples of this in action.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, there are so many. For instance, in San Francisco's
Mission District, the local Community Center has transformed their Thanksgiving
celebration from a simple meal service to a week long
cultural festival. Oh wow, they have cooking classes, storytelling events,
and communal meals that blend Latin American harvest traditions with
American Thanksgiving customs.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Wow. That sounds amazing. It's like Thanksgiving is becoming a
platform for celebrating diversity and building bridges between different cultures.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It is, and this spirit of inclusivity is extending to
college campuses as well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well. That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The Association of College and University Housing Administrators found that
almost all residential colleges now host Thanksgiving celebrations for students
who stay on campus during the break.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh. That's great, especially for international students who might not
have family nearby or be familiar with Thanksgiving traditions.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right. And programs like Yale University's Thanksgiving Hosting Initiative, which
matches international students with local families, are being replicated at
universities all over the country.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's so nice.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's all about creating a sense of welcome and belonging.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, that's really heartwarming. It's a good reminder that Thanksgiving
is about so much more than just the food.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's about connection and community, it is, And it seems
like technology is playing a role in how we connect
and celebrate, especially after the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Absolutely. Yeah. Zoom reported a massive surge in video calls
on Thanksgiving Day in twenty twenty. Yeah, and interestingly, a
significant percentage of users continued those virtual gatherings even after
pandemic restrictions eased.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I can see why for families spread across the country
or even the world, virtual gatherings offer a way to
stay connected and share the holiday no matter the distance.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Exactly, and technology is also helping to raise awareness about
alternative perspectives on Thanksgiving, like the National Day of Morning.
Attendance at that event has grown significantly in recent years,
and educational institutions across the country are starting to incorporate
indigenous perspectives into their Thanksgiving curricula.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's a positive sign that people are seeking a more
complete and nuanced understanding of the holiday's history.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Absolutely, it's about acknowledging the complexities of the past and
honoring the experiences of those whose voices have often been marginalized.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Right, And it's not just about history. There's a growing
awareness of the environmental impact of Thanksgiving, and people are
taking steps to celebrate more sustainably. The environ Mental Protection
Agency has reported a significant decrease in Thanksgiving food waste
in recent years thanks to things like community composting programs
and food sharing hubs.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right, and the concept of zero waste Thanksgiving is gaining traction.
Oh cool with people embracing reusable dishware, minimal packaging, and
careful portion planning.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It sounds like people are finding creative ways to align
their values with their celebrations.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
They are, and this awareness is extending to corporate America
as well.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
The Society for Human Resource Management found that a majority
of major employers now host eco conscious Thanksgiving events.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
It's great to see that even big companies are getting
on board with this. It's all about raising awareness and
making Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It is, and it's not just about reducing waste, right.
People are thinking more carefully about where their food comes
from and choosing more sustainable options.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Sales of organic turkeys, locally sourced ingredients, and plant based
alternatives are all on the rise.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Right. It's a reflecttion of that growing awareness of how
our food choices impact the environment. So we've got individuals
making changes, Yeah, community organizations, even corporations. Is anyone else
getting involved in this shift toward a more sustainable Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah? Religious institutions are playing a role as well.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
The Interfaith Power and Light Network has documented how congregations
are incorporating locally sourced ingredients reduced meat consumption and explicit
connections between gratitude and environmental responsibility into their Thanksgiving observances.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That's wonderful. It's a powerful example of how faith and
values can drive positive change. Yeah, it's amazing to see
how this movement towards a more sustainable and mindful Thanksgiving
is taking root in so many different sectors of society.
It is, but let's not forget about their role technology plays,
not just in helping us cook or reduce waste, but
(29:52):
in creating new forms of community and connection around the holiday.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You're absolutely right. Think about online communities like Reddit are Thanksgiving. Yeah,
it's exploded in recent years, with people sharing recipes, planning strategies,
and even offering emotional support year round.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Wow. It's a great example of how online communities can
provide a sense of belonging, especially for those who might
not have traditional support networks. And then there are platforms
like Instagram and hashtags like hashtag orphans giving and hashtag
chosen Family, which really highlight how people are finding and
(30:29):
creating their own alternative holiday communities.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right. It's a fascinating way that technology is both reflecting
and shaping the evolution of these traditions and it's not
just limited to social media. Yeah, streaming platforms are transforming
the way we experience Thanksgiving entertainment. Traditional television viewing on
Thanksgiving Day has declined significantly. Yeah, while streaming services are
(30:52):
reporting record breaking co watching sessions for holiday programming.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, it's a sign of how our media consumption habits changing.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They really are, and it's not just traditional media. I've
heard that even gaming communities are hosting virtual Thanksgiving gatherings
on platforms like Discords, sharing meals via video while gaming together.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That's a great example of how technology is creating new
ways to connect and share experiences. And the maker community
is embracing Thanksgiving as a time for creative expression. Oh wow,
with makerspaces hosting workshops where people can learn to create
everything from three D printed table decorations to laser cut
serving platters.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That's amazing how people are using technology to personalize their
Thanksgiving celebrations and create new traditions. Yeah. So we've covered
a lot of ground here. We've talked about how Thanksgiving
is evolving in terms of inclusivity, sustainability, and the use
of technology. It's clear that the holiday is a reflection
of broader cultural shifts and individual choices.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It really is, And as we look to the future,
it seems like Thanksgiving will continue to adapt to changing
social patterns, technological advancements, even challenges like climate change.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
The Pew Research Center found that younger Americans are increasingly
viewing Thanksgiving as a flexible celebration Okay, that can be
observed multiple times throughout the season with different communities.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, that makes sense. Our lives are becoming more fluid,
and so are our definitions of family in community.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Exactly, And the Natural Resources Defense Counsel predicts that the
traditional November timing of Thanksgiving might even shift in some
regions as growing seasons change due to climate change.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
It's a reminder that even our most deeply ingrained traditions
must adapt to the realities of a changing world.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But amidst all these changes, one thing remains constant, that
enduring human need for gratitude, connection, and the simple act
of coming together to share a meal. The Public Religion
Research Institute found that a vast majority of Americans now
identify gratitude and community as the most important aspects of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's really heartwarming reminder that even in our world that
can sometimes feel divided and uncertain, there are certain values
that unite us, and that's.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
The true spirit of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well said, this Deep Dive has been an incredible journey.
We've gone from ancient harvest rituals to the modern Thanksgiving feast,
from the impact of technology to the challenges of climate change.
It's clear that Thanksgiving is a complex and evolving holiday,
but it's one that continues to hold a special place
in our hearts and culture.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It does, and as we wrap up this exploration, I
want to leave you with one final thought. How will
you carry this spirit of Thanksgiving with you throughout the year?
How will you express gratitude, cultivate connection, and make a
positive impact on your community.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Those are powerful questions to consider and remember, whether you're
celebrating Thanksgiving in a traditional way, creating your own unique traditions,
or simply taking a moment to reflect on the good
things in your life. We hope this deep Dive has
given you a fresh perspective on this remarkable holiday from
all of us here at the Deep Dive, Happy Thanksgiving
or happy whatever you celebrate there is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
There's always more to discover, especially with a holiday as
rich and multifaceted as Thanksgiving. It's been fascinating to explore
how this holiday reflects the incredible diversity of American life.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It really does, doesn't it. It's like a tapestry woven
from so many different things, like individual experiences and family
traditions and cultural influences. And while that traditional Thanksgiving feast
is at the center of it all, it seems like
there are so many different ways people are celebrating and
making the holiday their own these days.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You're absolutely right, and that's reflected in some interesting trends
that we've been seeing. For example, the Smithsonian Folk Life
Festival Archives have documented the rise of these hybrid harvest
festivals in cities across the country. Oh wow, they're blending
different cultural celebrations with traditional Thanksgiving observances.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Oh, that's really cool. So it's not just about incorporating
different dishes into the meal. No, it's about bringing together
different cultural traditions and ways of celebrating exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It reflects that you changing demographics of America and the
increasing desire to incorporate diverse cultural heritages into the Thanksgiving mix. Yeah,
and it's not just about food, it's about storytelling. Music, dance,
all these beautiful ways of expressing gratitude and sharing traditions.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
It sounds like Thanksgiving is becoming even more vibrant and inclusive.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It is. And speaking of inclusivity, yeah, we can't forget
about friendsgiving, right, which has become such a big phenomenon,
especially among younger generations.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
The Pew Research Center found that almost half of all
adults under thirty participate in some form of friendsgiving, either
as an alternative to or in addition to, traditional family gatherings.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Wow. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. In a
world where people are more mobile and family structures are
becoming more diverse, friendsgiving offers a way to create that
sense of belonging in community wherever you are.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's about choosing your own family and celebrating with the
people who matter most to.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You, exactly. And it's not just happening in private homes.
The Urban Institute found that friends giving celebrations are popping
up in college dorms. Oh wow, apartment complexes, and even workplaces.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah. I can see that.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's like this organic movement bringing people together and strengthening
social bonds.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's amazing how this relatively new tradition has taken root
and spread so quickly. It speaks to that fundamental human
need for connection and belonging.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And it's not just individuals who are finding creative ways
to celebrate. I was reading about how community organizations are
transforming the way they approach Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah. The National Coalition of Community Centers reports that traditional
turkey giveaways are being replaced by more interactive and empowering events.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So it's about more than just providing a meal exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's about fostering a sense of belonging and shared experience.
I think community feasts, cooking workshops, cultural exchange programs. Yeah.
The United Way found that a vast majority of their
member organizations now prioritize these kinds of participatory Thanksgiving programs
over simple charitable distributions.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah. So it's like a shift from a charity model
to a community building model.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
It is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That's fantastic. Do you have the examples of this in action?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
There are so many. For instance, in San Francisco's Mission District,
the local Community Center has transformed their Thanksgiving celebration from
a simple meal service to a week long cultural festival.
They have cooking classes, storytelling events, and communal meals that
blend Latin American harvest traditions with American Thanksgiving customs.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Wow, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It is.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's like Thanksgiving is becoming a platform for celebrating diversity
and building bridges between different cultures.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It is, and this spirit of inclusivity is extending to
college campuses as well. The Association of College and University
Housing Administrators found that almost all residential colleges now host
Thanksgiving celebrations for students who stay on campus during the break.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Oh. That's great, especially for international students who might not
have family nearby or be familiar with Thanksgiving traditions.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right. And programs like Yale University's Thanksgiving Hosting Initiative, which
matches international students with local families, are being replicated at
universities all over the country. It's all about create a
sense of welcome and belonging.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's so nice.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
It is.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's a good reminder that Thanksgiving is about so much
more than just the food. Right, It's about connection and community,
And it seems like technology is playing a role in
how we connect and celebrate, especially after the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Absolutely Zoom reported a massive surge in video calls on
Thanksgiving Day in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, and interestingly, a significant percentage of users continued those
virtual gatherings even after pandemic restrictions eased.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, I can see why. For families spread across the
country or even the world, virtual gatherings offer a way
to stay connected and share the holiday, no matter the
distance exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And technology is also helping to raise awareness about alternative
perspectives on Thanksgiving, like the National Day of Mourning. Attendance
at that event has grown significantly in recent years, and
educational institutions across the country are starting to incorporate indigenous
perspectives into their Thanksgiving curricula. The National Education Association has
reported a huge increase in request for Native American educational
(39:15):
materials during November.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Wow, that's great. It's a positive sign that people are
seeking a more complete and nuanced understanding of the holiday's history.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's about acknowledging the complexities of the past and honoring
the experiences of those whose voices have often been marginalized.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Right, And it's not just about history. There's a growing
awareness of the environmental impact of Thanksgiving, and people are
taking steps to celebrate more sustainably. The Environmental Protection Agency
has reported a significant decrease in Thanksgiving food waste in
recent years thanks to things like community composting programs and
food sharing.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Hubs, and the concept of a zero waste Thanksgiving is
gaining traction with people embracing reusable dishwar, minimal packaging, and
careful portion planning.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It sounds like people are finding creative ways to align
their values with their celebrations.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
They are, and this awareness is extending to corporate America
as well. The Society for Human Resource Management found that
a majority of major employers now host eco conscious Thanksgiving events.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's great to see that even big companies are getting
on board with this. It's all about raising awareness and
making Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It is, and it's not just about reducing waste. People
are thinking more carefully about where their food comes from
and choosing more sustainable options. Sales of organic turkeys, locally
sourced ingredients, and plant based alternatives are all on the rise.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's a reflection of that growing awareness of how our
food choices impact the environment exact. So we've got individuals
making changes, community organizations, even corporations is anyone else getting
involved in this shift toward a more sustainable Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Religious institutions are playing a role as well. The Interfaith
Power and Light Network has documented how congregations are incorporating
locally sourced and greeddiance, reduced meat consumption, and explicit connections
between gratitude and environmental responsibility into their Thanksgiving observances. It's
a powerful example of how faith and values can drive
(41:12):
positive change.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
That's amazing to see how this movement towards a more
sustainable and mindful Thanksgiving is taking root in so many
different sectors of society. But let's not forget about the
role technology plays, not just in helping us cook or
reduce waste, but in creating new forms of community and
connection around the holiday.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
You're absolutely right. Think about online communities like reddits are Thanksgiving?
Oh yeah, It's exploded in recent years, with people sharing recipes,
planning strategies, and even offering emotional support year round.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
It's a great example of how online communities can provide
a sense of belonging, especially for those who might not
have traditional support networks.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And then there are platforms like Instagram and Pinterest, which
have become hubs for sharing Thanksgiving inspiration. Yeah, I've seen
hashtags like hash tech orphans Giving and hashtag chosen Family,
which really highlight how people are finding and creating their
own alternative holiday communities.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's a fascinating way that technology is both reflecting and
shaping the evolution of these traditions. And it's not just
limited to social media. Streaming platforms are transforming the way
we experience Thanksgiving entertainment. Traditional television viewing on Thanksgiving Day
has declined significantly, while streaming services are reporting record breaking
(42:29):
co watching sessions for holiday programming. It's a sign of
how our media consumption habits are changing.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, and it's not just traditional media. I've heard that
even gaming communities are hosting virtual Thanksgiving gatherings on platforms
like discord Right, sharing meals via video while gaming together.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
That's a great example of how technology is creating new
ways to connect and share experiences. It is, and the
maker community is embracing Thanksgiving is a time for creative expression,
with makerspaces hosting works jobs where people can learn to
create everything from three D printed table decorations to laser
cut serving platters.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's amazing how people are using technology to personalize their
Thanksgiving celebrations and create new traditions. Right, So we've covered
a lot of ground here. We've talked about how Thanksgiving
is evolving in terms of inclusivity, sustainability, and the use
of technology. It's clear that the holiday is a reflection
of broader cultural shifts and individual choices.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It really is, and as we look to the future,
it seems like Thanksgiving will continue to adapt to changing
social patterns, technological advancements, and even challenges like climate change.
The Pew Research Center found that younger Americans are increasingly
viewing Thanksgiving is a flexible celebration that can be observed
multiple times throughout the season with different communities.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, that makes sense. Our lives are becoming more fluid,
and so are our definitions of family and community.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Exactly, And the Natural Resources Defense Counsel predicts that the
traditional November timing of Thanksgiving might even shift in some
regions as growing seasons change due to climate change.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It's a reminder that even our most deeply ingrained traditions
must adapt to the realities of a changing world.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
But amidst all these changes, one thing remains constant. That
enduring human need for gratitude, connection, and the simple act
of coming together to share a meal. The Public Religion
Research Institute found that a vast majority of Americans now
identify gratitude and community as the most important aspects of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
That's really heartwarming. It's a reminder that even in a
world that can sometimes feel divided and uncertain, there are
certain values that unite.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Us, and that's the true spirit of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Well said, this deep dive has been an incredible journey.
We've gone from ancient harvest rituals to the modern Thanksgiving feast,
from the impact of technology to the challenges of climate change.
It's clear that Thanksgiving is a complex and evolving holiday,
but it's one that continues to hold a special place
in our hearts and culture.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It does, and as we wrap up this exploration, I
want to leave you with one final thought. How will
you carry the spirit of Thanksgiving with you throughout the year?
How will you express gratitude, cultivate connection, and make a
positive impact on your community.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Those are powerful questions to consider and remember, whether you're
celebrating Thanksgiving in a traditional way, creating your own unique traditions,
or simply taking a moment to reflect on the good
things in your life. We hope this Deep Dive has
given you a fresh perspective on this remarkable holiday from
all of us here at the Deep Dive, Happy Thanksgiving
or happy whatever you celebrate.
Hey everybody, and welcome to the deep Dive. We're doing
something a little different today. We're diving deep into Thanksgiving,
but not the typical stuff you might be thinking of.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, no, no, right, like.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Football and turkey and all that. We're gonna go way.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Beyond that, way beyond.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So you sent me some really interesting podcast transcripts all
about Thanksgiving history and how it's evolved. And I gotta say,
I was really surprised by some of the stuff I learned.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, it's amazing what we think we know right about
this holiday. Yeah, but there's so many like layers underneath you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, I had no idea, like how much this holiday
has actually changed over time, and how much it actually
reflects like bigger cultural shifts in America. Right, We're gonna
talk about everything, like from the real story of that
very first Thanksgiving to how climate change might impact the
holiday's future.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah and Friendsgiving.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh yeah, clearly interesting, I am. Yeah, it's super interesting
how things like that are changing Thanksgiving today. But before
we into all that, let's zoom out for a minute.
Like it's easy to think of Thanksgiving as just an
American thing, right, But the truth is, the whole idea
of celebrating a harvest is pretty universal, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, it is. Harvest festivals are found in cultures all
over the world. For example, some Native American tribes celebrate
the green Corn Ceremony, Oh Wow, which is about more
than just food. It's a time of spiritual renewal and
forgiveness and strengthening community ties.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's so interesting. It makes you think about how a
successful harvest was truly a matter of survival for many cultures.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Exactly, and that sense of gratitude for just like the
bounty of nature, it's something that goes beyond cultural boundaries.
You see it in the Jewish festival a Sukat, where
families build these temporary shelters really yeah, and they decorate
them with a harvest bounty. Or think about the mid
autumn festival in East Asia with its mooncakes and lanterns.
(01:54):
It's all about family abundance, giving thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It seems like every culture has its own way of
marking this time of year and acknowledging that dependence on
the natural world.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It connects us all in a way.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay, so let's bring it back to the US now
and that Thanksgiving story that we're all pretty much familiar
with the sixteen twenty one gathering between the Pilgrims and
the Wampanoag tribe. But from what I was reading in
the transcripts, the reality of that event is a bit
more complicated than the picture we often see. Right, It's
not as simple as we think.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's not the Womponoa. They weren't initially invited to the
Pilgrim's harvest celebration. They only joined after they heard celebratory gunfire.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Wait seriously, I never knew that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, and their presence was more about diplomacy than shared celebration.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It was a time of complex power dynamics, and the
Wampanoag were just very skilled navigating that difficult political situation.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That definitely challenges the simple narrative of just a harmonious gathering.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It does. It reminds us that history is rarely black
and white.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Right. Yeah, so we've gone from ancient harvest rituals to
this pivotal moment in early American history. But how did
Thanksgiving go from this one off event to an official
national holiday.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well that's where Sarah Josepha Hale comes in. Oh yeah,
the nineteenth century magazine editor who basically made Thanksgiving happen.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
She's like the mother of Thanksgiving. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hale was a remarkable woman.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
For seventeen years she campaigned tirelessly for a national Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Seventeen years. Wow. That's dedication, it is.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And she used her platform as a magazine editor to
promote this idea, even going so far as to suggest
recipes and customs. Wow. She believed that a unified holiday
could help heal a divided nation, especially during the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And in fact, her vision eventually resonated with President Lincoln, Wow,
who officially proclaimed Thanksgiving a national holiday in eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Wow. I knew that she was influential, but I didn't
realize she was that persistent. Imagine writing to five different
presidents just to make your case.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's a testament to her belief in the power of
this holiday to bring people together.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, and it worked. Thanksgiving quickly became this beloved tradition.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But even then, it continued to evolve, right, and.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Those changes often reflected like broader shifts in American society.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So let's fast forward a bit now, how did we
go from those early celebrations to the Thanksgiving that we
know today.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, think about the Gilded Age, for example, Thanksgiving feast
became all about extravagance and showing off, and then the
Great Depression hit and suddenly it was about sharing, resourcefulness,
making do with what you had.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And then World War II came along and turned Thanksgiving
into this symbol of American identity and resilience.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I can see how each of these major events
would shape people's attitudes toward a holiday that's focused on
gratitude and abundance exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And then the post war era, Yeah, you see the
rise of the turkey industry, tell abs, football games, the
Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, all of these elements become part
of our modern Thanksgiving tradition.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, so we've got like the historical backdrop now, but
what about alternative perspectives on Thanksgiving. You mentioned friends Giving earlier,
and I'm really interested in learning more about that. And
also the National Day of Mourning that's observed by some
Native Americans.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, let's dive into those. The National Day of Mourning.
It's a powerful counter narrative to the traditional Thanksgiving story.
It's observed by some Native Americans at Plymouth Rock. Oh wow.
And it provides a space to remember the sacrifices and
losses that their ancestors experienced.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, it's a really important perspective to acknowledge and friendsgiving
what's the story there? It seems like a relatively new phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It is, and it reflects changing social patterns, especially among
young adults. Yeah, it's about choosing your own family, okay,
and celebrating with the people who matter most to you,
regardless of blood ties. Ok. It's a response to the
growing fluidity of family structures and are increasingly mobile lives.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Right. It makes sense that people would want to create
their own traditions and communities in a world that's like
constantly changing. Yeah, but all this talk of feasting and
celebrating brings up another crush. All this wouldn't be possible
without this massive food system working behind the scenes, right.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
She wouldn't. It's an incredible logistical feat.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Think about the sheer volume of food consumed during Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh my gosh, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
For example, in just the two weeks leading up to Thanksgiving, Okay,
almost a third of all sweet potatoes sold in an
entire year fly off the shelves.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Wow. I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, that's a lot of pressure on the supply chain.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That's a lot of sweet potatoes.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It is retailers like Walmart, they start stocking up on
Thanksgiving essentials months in advance. Wow. And for farmers, it's
a high stakes game. They're making critical decisions about their
crops and livestock months ahead of time based on the
anticipated Thanksgiving demand.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I imagine, for.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Example, turkey farmers have to predict exactly how many birds
they'll need to meet that Thanksgiving rush.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's all a guessing game. Yeah. It really highlights how
interconnected we all are, even when it comes to something
as seemingly simple as a holiday meal.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Exactly. And speaking of the meal, it's fascinating how the
evolution of the American food industry has shaped our iconic
Thanksgiving dishes.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, tell me more.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like, for instance, green bean casserole. Did you know that
Campbell's soup is largely responsible for making this a Thanksgiving staple?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it all started with an employee recipe back in
the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And Cranberry sauce ocean spray played a major role in
transforming cranberries from a regional New England specialty into a
nationwide Thanksgiving essential.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So even something as simple as cranberry sauce has a
whole backstory.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It does. And we can't forget about the frozen food industry,
which revolutionized Thanksgiving. Yeah, suddenly you didn't have to worry
about finding a fresh turkey days in advance. Yeah, you
just grab one from the freezer.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right. It was game changer for busy families, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And now grocery stores have become like Thanksgiving command centers.
They have offering everything from pre made sides to complete
Thanksgiving meals. It's true, it's all about convenience and catering
to our busy, modern lifestyles.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I know I've definitely been tempted by those pre made pies.
But it's not just about convenience, is it. Technology is
changing the way we cook Thanksgiving dinner in some pretty
amazing ways.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, it's not just about convenience anymore. It's about precision
and food safety and maybe even a little bit of
Thanksgiving magic.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, I'm intrigued. Tell me more about this Thanksgiving magic.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well. Think about smart ovens, for example, they're adapting to
Thanksgiving cooking patterns okay, with extended use features and holiday
specific modes and temperature monitoring devices are taking the guesswork
out of cooking that big bird, ensuring a safe and
delicious meal. No more unto cook turkeys. That's a win,
it is. And don't forget about kitchen design. We're seeing
(08:51):
more homes with dedicated holiday zones.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Like a Thanksgiving command center.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Exactly, complete with extra outlets, specialized storage, and everything you
need to tackle that Thanksgiving feast.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's like Thanksgiving headquarters.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But speaking of cooking, it used to be that learning
to cook Thanksgiving dinner was like this family secret right
passed down from generation to generation. Yeah, it seems like
that's changing, though it is.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Cooking knowledge is more accessible than ever before thanks to
the Internet.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The Internet has changed everything it has.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Between cooking shows and YouTube channels and recipe websites and
social media, anyone can learn to cook a Thanksgiving feast
these days.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's true. You can find like step by step video
tutorials and even entire online communities dedicated to Thanksgiving cooking.
It's like having a global network of Thanksgiving experts right at.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Your fingertips exactly, And this democratization of cooking knowledge yeah,
has been especially important for people with dietary restrictions. Right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The Thanksgiving table is no longer a one size fits
all situation. We're seeing a huge rise in demand for
plant based alternatives, yeah, gluten free options, dairy free recipes,
even keto friendly Thanksgiving dishes.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It's wonderful to see Thanksgiving is becoming more inclusive and
welcoming to everyone, regardless of their dietary choices.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, we've covered a lot of ground here. We have
from ancient harvest rituals to the modern Thanksgiving feast, from
the impact of technology to the evolving ways we approach
the holiday. Right, But there's one more thing I want
to bring up before we move on. Food waste. It's
a big issue during Thanksgiving, huge issue and something that
we all need to be more mindful of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You're right, the amount of food that gets thrown away
each Thanksgiving is staggering.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It is. It's really heartbreaking, and it's not just about
the wasted money. It's about the environmental impact of producing
all that food and then just tossing it in the trash.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And thankfully, we're starting to see a shift in attitudes
and behaviors.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
People are becoming more aware of the problem, yeah, and
taking steps to reduce their Thanksgiving footprint.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So what can we do about it?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah? There are a lot of things. Portion planning is key, right,
Choosing smaller turkeys, yeah, making accurate guess counts, and investing
in better storage solutions like vacuum sealers and specialized containers
to help preserve those leftovers for longer.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
What about composting.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Composting is a fantastic way to give those food scraps
a second life and reduce the amount of waste going
to landfills. And even grocery stores are getting involved.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh wow, that's great, offering.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
More precise portion cutting services and helping customers buy the
right amount of food.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's wonderful. It sounds like a collaborative effort is needed
to really tackle this problem.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It does. It's encouraging to see how everyone is coming
together to make Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah. And technology can play a role too, right. There
are all those apps and websites that offer creative leftover recipes.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Absolutely, It's all about empowering people to make more conscious
choices without sacrificing the joy and abundance of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, so we've talked about the past, we've talked about
the present. What about the future of Thanksgiving. What trends
are you seeing that might shape the holiday in the
years to come.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, I think technology will continue to play a huge role.
AI powered ovens, oh yes, smart kitchens and even personalized
meal planning apps wow, are already changing how we approach cooking.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's like having a Thanksgiving cooking expert built right into
your oven exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And meal planning apps are changed the game, especially for
younger generations who are used to having everything organized and scheduled.
These apps can help you create detailed shopping lists oh wow,
plan your cooking timeline, and even send you reminders.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's pretty awesome. I can see how that would be
super helpful, especially for a big meal like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It is, and the way we source ingredients is evolving too.
Online grocery delivery and pre ordering are becoming increasingly.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Popular makes things a lot easier, it does.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's all about making Thanksgiving less stressful and more enjoyable. Yeah, exactly,
and I think we'll see even more creative solutions emerging,
like specialized Thanksgiving preparation facilities and ghost kitchens.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Whoa ghost kitchens? What are those?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Imagine a place that prepares all the Thanksgiving components for you,
ready to be assembled at home. It's like a Thanksgiving
meal kit on steroids.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's amazing, especially for busy people who still want that
homemade Thanksgiving experience.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So, we've got technology changing things in the kitchen and
even the way we get our food. But what about
the bigger picture? How might things like climate change impact
Thanksgiving in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's great question. Climate change is a big concern and
it could definitely have an impact on the holiday. Yeah,
the traditional ingredients we rely on might become harder to
come by, or the timing of the holiday itself might
need to shift. Oh wow, to align with changing growing seasons.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's a sobering thought, it is, and it's something that
we need to consider.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, it's a challenge, but it's also an opportunity to
get creative and rethink our Thanksgiving traditions. Yeah, we might
see a rise in new Thanksgiving dishes featuring climate resilient ingredients,
or maybe we'll embrace more plant based off options to
reduce our environmental footprint.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, that's a really good idea.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's fascinating to think about the possibilities.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It is. But no matter how Thanksgiving evolves, it seems
like those core values of the holiday are likely to endure.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I think so too. At its heart, Thanksgiving is about gratitude, community,
and the simple act of coming together to share a meal. Yeah,
those are values that transcend time and cultural boundaries.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's a good reminder, especially in a world that can
sometimes feel divided and uncertain. Thanksgiving reminds us to focus
on what truly matters.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, we've covered so much in this deep dive, from
ancient harvest rituals to the future of the holiday.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's amazing how much there is to unpack.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It is. I feel like we've only just scratched the
surface we have.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But that's the beauty of a deep dive like this.
It's about peeling back the layers and uncovering the unexpected
stories behind something we thought we knew.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So well, that's so true. I mean, who would have
thought there'd be so much to say about the evolution
of cranberry sauce, right, But it's a.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Great example of how seemingly simple traditions can have these
fascinating backstories. Yeah, Ocean Spray's marketing campaigns in the nineteen
thirties completely changed how Americans viewed and consumed cranberries.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, they went from this fresh regional fruit to a
canned convenience product that can be enjoyed nationwide.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's like they created a whole new Thanksgiving tradition exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And it's not just cranberries. The rise of frozen turkeys
in the nineteen fifties, oh yeah, thanks to companies like Butterball,
revolutionized how we planned and prepared those Thanksgiving meals.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I can imatch.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You no longer had to worry about finding a fresh
turkey days in advance. You could just grab them from
the freezer and be good to go.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's amazing how those innovations become so ingrained in our traditions.
Speaking of which I have to admit, those prepared foods
at the grocery store have become a Thanksgiving life saver
for me.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh absolutely, it's become so common.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
They really have.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Grocery stores are practically Thanksgiving command centers now, with entire
sections dedicated to prey made sides, desserts, and even complete meals.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, It's like having a personal chef at your disposal, right,
I mean, who hasn't been tempted by those perfectly golden,
pre made pies.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's a testament to how our lifestyles.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Have changed, Yeah, they have.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
People are busier than ever, and sometimes a little help
in the kitchen is exactly what you need to make
Thanksgiving happen.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And it doesn't make you any less grateful, right, I
don't know, it's just a different way of approaching the
holiday exactly. And this adaptability is also evident in how
we're learning to cook these days.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Remember when it was all about family recipes passed down
through generations. Yeah, like you had to earn the right
to make Grandma's famous stuffing exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, those days aren't entirely gone, no, But now cooking
knowledge is more accessible than ever before thanks to the internet.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Right, the internet has changed everything.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It has. Between cooking shows, YouTube channels, recipe websites, and
social media, anyone can learn to cook at Thanksgiving feast
these days.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's pretty amazing it is.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You can find step by step video tutorials, oh yeah,
troubleshooting tips yeah, and even entire online communities dedicated to
Thanksgiving cooking.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's like having a global network of Thanksgiving experts right
at your fingertips, right, and that's got to be especially
helpful for people with dietary restrictions.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, it is. I know. There are a lot more
options out there now than there.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Used to be. Absolutely, you're absolutely right. The Thanksgiving tatle
is no longer a one size fits all situation. We're
seeing a huge rise in demand for plant based alternatives. Yeah,
gluten free options, dairy free recipes, and even keto friendly
Thanksgiving dishes.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's like Thanksgiving is finally catching up to the reality
of diverse dietary needs and preferences.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And it's not just about accommodating restrictions. It's about embracing
new flavors and culinary innovations. Yeah, plant based meat alternatives
are getting better all the time. And there's some incredibly
creative gluten free and dairy free recipes out there. Oh yeah,
that are just as delicious as the traditional versions.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
That's fantastic, it is. Okay, there's another side to all
this abundance that we need to talk about, right, food waste. Yes,
it's a major issue during Thanksgiving, and something we all
need to be more mindful of You're.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Absolutely right, the amount of food that gets thrown away
each Thanksgiving is staggering.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's heartbreaking, and it's not just about wasted money. It's
about the environmental impact of producing all that food and
then just tossing it in the trash.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right, And thankfully, we are starting to see a shift
in attitudes and behaviors. People are becoming more aware of
the problem and taking steps to reduce their Thanksgiving footprint.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So like choosing smaller turkeys exactly, and making more accurate
guess counts to avoid overbuying.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
In the first place, right, and investing in better storage
solutions Okay, like vacuum sealers and specialized containers to help
preserve those leftovers for longer.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
What about composting.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Composting is a fantastic way to give those food scrabs
a second life life and reduce the amount of waste
going to landfills. And even grocery stores are getting involved,
offering more precise portion cutting services and helping customers buy
the right amount of food.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It sounds like a collaborative effort is needed to tackle
this problem.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Is it's encouraging to see how everyone is coming together
to make Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And technology can play a role too, Right, there are
all those apps and websites that offer creative leftover recipes.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Absolutely, it's all about empowering people to make more conscious
choices without sacrificing the joy and abundance of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, so we've talked about the past and the present.
What about the future of Thanksgiving? What trends are you
seeing that might shape the holiday and the years to come.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, I think technology will continue to play a huge role.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Ai powered ovens, Oh yeah, smart kitchens and even personalized
meal planning apps are already changing how we approach cooking.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's like having a Thanksgiving cooking expert built right into
your oven exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And meal planning apps are changing the game, especially for
younger generations who are used to having everything organized as scheduled.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
These app can help you create detailed shopping lists, play
in your cooking timeline, and even send you reminders.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I can see how that would be helpful, especially for
a big meal like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And the way we source ingredients is evolving too. Yeah.
Online grocery delivery and pre ordering are becoming increasingly popular.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's all about making Thanksgiving less stressful and more enjoyable, exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
And I think we'll see even more creative solutions emerging,
like specialized Thanksgiving preparation facilities and ghost kitchens.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Whoa ghost kitchens? What are those?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Imagine a place that prepares all the Thanksgiving components for you,
ready to be assembled at home. Oh wow, it's like
a Thanksgiving meal kit on steroids.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That sounds amazing, especially for busy people who still want
that homemade Thanksgiving experience.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So we've got technology changing things in the kitchen and
even the way we get our food. But what about
the bigger picture? How might things like climate change impact
Thanksgiving in the future.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's a great question. Climate change is a big concern
and it could definitely have an impact on the holiday.
The traditional ingredients we rely on might become harder to
come by, or the timing of the holiday itself might
need to shift to align with change in growing seasons.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It's a sobering thought, but it's something we need to consider.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It is. It's a challenge, but it's also an opportunity
to get creative and rethink our Thanksgiving traditions. We might
see a rise in new Thanksgiving dishes featuring climate resilient ingredients,
or maybe we'll embrace more plant based options to reduce
our environmental footprint.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's fascinating to think about the possibilities. But no matter
how Thanksgiving evolves, it seems like the core values of
the holiday are likely to endure.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think so too. At its heart, Thanksgiving is about gratitude, community,
and the simple act of coming together to share a meal. Yeah,
those are values that transcend time and cultural boundaries.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's a good reminder, especially in world that can sometimes
feel divided and uncertain. Thanksgiving reminds us to focus on
what truly matters.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, we've covered so much in this deep dive, from
ancient harvest rituals to the future of the holiday. It's
been an amazing journey through the history, evolution, and cultural
significance of Thanksgiving. But I have feeling there's still more
to uncover.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Right there is. There's always more to uncover, especially with
a holiday like Thanksgiving so rich and multifaceted. It's really
been fascinating to explore how this holiday reflects, like the
incredible diversity of American.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Life it really does. It's like a tapestry woven from
so many individual experiences and family traditions and cultural influences. Right,
And while that traditional Thanksgiving feast is at the center
of it all, it seems like there are so many
different ways people are celebrating and making the holiday their
own these days.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, and that's reflected in some interesting
trends we've been seeing. For example, the Smithsonian folk Life
Festival Archives have documented the rise of these hybrid harvest
festivals in cities across the country. Oh wow, they're blending
different cultural celebrations with traditional Thanksgiving observances.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh that's really cool. So it's not just about incorporating
different dishes into the meal. It's about bringing together different
cultural traditions and ways of celebrating exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It reflects the changing demographics of America and the increasing
desire to incorporate diverse cultural heritages into the Thanksgiving mix.
And it's not just about food. It's about storytelling, music, dance,
all these beautiful ways of expressing gratitude and sharing traditions.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It sounds like Thanksgiving is becoming even more vibrant and inclusive.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It is, and speaking of inclusivity. Yeah, we can't forget
about friendsgiving, which has become such a big phenomenon, especially
among younger generations.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
The Pew Research Center found that almost half of all
adults under thirty participate in some form of friendsgiving wow,
either as an alternative to or in addition to, traditional
family gatherings.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. In a world
where people are more mobile and family structures are becoming
more diverse, friends giving offers a way to create that
sense of belonging and community wherever you are. Right, it's
about choosing your own family and celebrating with the people
who matter most to you exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And it's not just happening in private homes. The Urban
Institute found that friends giving celebrations are popping up in
college dorms, Oh wow, apartment complexes, and even workplaces.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's like this organic movement bringing people together and strengthening
social bonds.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
It's amazing how this relatively new tradition has taken root
and spread so quickly. It speaks to that fundamental human
need for connection and belonging.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And it's not just individuals who are finding creative ways
to celebrate. Right. I was reading about how community organizations
are transforming the way they approach Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yes, the National Coalition of Community Centers reports the traditional
giveaways are being replaced by more interactive and empowering events.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
So it's about more than just providing a meal exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's about fostering a sense of belonging and shared experiences. Okay,
I think community feasts, cooking workshops, cultural exchange programs.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The United Way found that a vast majority of their
member organizations now prioritize these kinds of participatory Thanksgiving programs
over simple charitable distributions.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's a shift from a charity model to a community
building model, it is. That's fantastic. Do you have any
examples of this in action.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, there are so many. For instance, in San Francisco's
Mission District, the local Community Center has transformed their Thanksgiving
celebration from a simple meal service to a week long
cultural festival. Oh wow, they have cooking classes, storytelling events,
and communal meals that blend Latin American harvest traditions with
American Thanksgiving customs.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Wow. That sounds amazing. It's like Thanksgiving is becoming a
platform for celebrating diversity and building bridges between different cultures.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It is, and this spirit of inclusivity is extending to
college campuses as well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well. That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The Association of College and University Housing Administrators found that
almost all residential colleges now host Thanksgiving celebrations for students
who stay on campus during the break.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh. That's great, especially for international students who might not
have family nearby or be familiar with Thanksgiving traditions.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right. And programs like Yale University's Thanksgiving Hosting Initiative, which
matches international students with local families, are being replicated at
universities all over the country.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's so nice.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's all about creating a sense of welcome and belonging.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, that's really heartwarming. It's a good reminder that Thanksgiving
is about so much more than just the food.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's about connection and community, it is, And it seems
like technology is playing a role in how we connect
and celebrate, especially after the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Absolutely. Yeah. Zoom reported a massive surge in video calls
on Thanksgiving Day in twenty twenty. Yeah, and interestingly, a
significant percentage of users continued those virtual gatherings even after
pandemic restrictions eased.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I can see why for families spread across the country
or even the world, virtual gatherings offer a way to
stay connected and share the holiday no matter the distance.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Exactly, and technology is also helping to raise awareness about
alternative perspectives on Thanksgiving, like the National Day of Morning.
Attendance at that event has grown significantly in recent years,
and educational institutions across the country are starting to incorporate
indigenous perspectives into their Thanksgiving curricula.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's a positive sign that people are seeking a more
complete and nuanced understanding of the holiday's history.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Absolutely, it's about acknowledging the complexities of the past and
honoring the experiences of those whose voices have often been marginalized.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Right, And it's not just about history. There's a growing
awareness of the environmental impact of Thanksgiving, and people are
taking steps to celebrate more sustainably. The environ Mental Protection
Agency has reported a significant decrease in Thanksgiving food waste
in recent years thanks to things like community composting programs
and food sharing hubs.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right, and the concept of zero waste Thanksgiving is gaining traction.
Oh cool with people embracing reusable dishware, minimal packaging, and
careful portion planning.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It sounds like people are finding creative ways to align
their values with their celebrations.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
They are, and this awareness is extending to corporate America
as well.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
The Society for Human Resource Management found that a majority
of major employers now host eco conscious Thanksgiving events.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
It's great to see that even big companies are getting
on board with this. It's all about raising awareness and
making Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It is, and it's not just about reducing waste, right.
People are thinking more carefully about where their food comes
from and choosing more sustainable options.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Sales of organic turkeys, locally sourced ingredients, and plant based
alternatives are all on the rise.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Right. It's a reflecttion of that growing awareness of how
our food choices impact the environment. So we've got individuals
making changes, Yeah, community organizations, even corporations. Is anyone else
getting involved in this shift toward a more sustainable Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah? Religious institutions are playing a role as well.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
The Interfaith Power and Light Network has documented how congregations
are incorporating locally sourced ingredients reduced meat consumption and explicit
connections between gratitude and environmental responsibility into their Thanksgiving observances.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That's wonderful. It's a powerful example of how faith and
values can drive positive change. Yeah, it's amazing to see
how this movement towards a more sustainable and mindful Thanksgiving
is taking root in so many different sectors of society.
It is, but let's not forget about their role technology plays,
not just in helping us cook or reduce waste, but
(29:52):
in creating new forms of community and connection around the holiday.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You're absolutely right. Think about online communities like Reddit are Thanksgiving. Yeah,
it's exploded in recent years, with people sharing recipes, planning strategies,
and even offering emotional support year round.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Wow. It's a great example of how online communities can
provide a sense of belonging, especially for those who might
not have traditional support networks. And then there are platforms
like Instagram and hashtags like hashtag orphans giving and hashtag
chosen Family, which really highlight how people are finding and
(30:29):
creating their own alternative holiday communities.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right. It's a fascinating way that technology is both reflecting
and shaping the evolution of these traditions and it's not
just limited to social media. Yeah, streaming platforms are transforming
the way we experience Thanksgiving entertainment. Traditional television viewing on
Thanksgiving Day has declined significantly. Yeah, while streaming services are
(30:52):
reporting record breaking co watching sessions for holiday programming.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, it's a sign of how our media consumption habits changing.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They really are, and it's not just traditional media. I've
heard that even gaming communities are hosting virtual Thanksgiving gatherings
on platforms like Discords, sharing meals via video while gaming together.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That's a great example of how technology is creating new
ways to connect and share experiences. And the maker community
is embracing Thanksgiving as a time for creative expression. Oh wow,
with makerspaces hosting workshops where people can learn to create
everything from three D printed table decorations to laser cut
serving platters.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That's amazing how people are using technology to personalize their
Thanksgiving celebrations and create new traditions. Yeah. So we've covered
a lot of ground here. We've talked about how Thanksgiving
is evolving in terms of inclusivity, sustainability, and the use
of technology. It's clear that the holiday is a reflection
of broader cultural shifts and individual choices.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It really is, And as we look to the future,
it seems like Thanksgiving will continue to adapt to changing
social patterns, technological advancements, even challenges like climate change.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
The Pew Research Center found that younger Americans are increasingly
viewing Thanksgiving as a flexible celebration Okay, that can be
observed multiple times throughout the season with different communities.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, that makes sense. Our lives are becoming more fluid,
and so are our definitions of family in community.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Exactly, And the Natural Resources Defense Counsel predicts that the
traditional November timing of Thanksgiving might even shift in some
regions as growing seasons change due to climate change.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
It's a reminder that even our most deeply ingrained traditions
must adapt to the realities of a changing world.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But amidst all these changes, one thing remains constant, that
enduring human need for gratitude, connection, and the simple act
of coming together to share a meal. The Public Religion
Research Institute found that a vast majority of Americans now
identify gratitude and community as the most important aspects of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's really heartwarming reminder that even in our world that
can sometimes feel divided and uncertain, there are certain values
that unite us, and that's.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
The true spirit of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well said, this Deep Dive has been an incredible journey.
We've gone from ancient harvest rituals to the modern Thanksgiving feast,
from the impact of technology to the challenges of climate change.
It's clear that Thanksgiving is a complex and evolving holiday,
but it's one that continues to hold a special place
in our hearts and culture.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It does, and as we wrap up this exploration, I
want to leave you with one final thought. How will
you carry this spirit of Thanksgiving with you throughout the year?
How will you express gratitude, cultivate connection, and make a
positive impact on your community.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Those are powerful questions to consider and remember, whether you're
celebrating Thanksgiving in a traditional way, creating your own unique traditions,
or simply taking a moment to reflect on the good
things in your life. We hope this deep Dive has
given you a fresh perspective on this remarkable holiday from
all of us here at the Deep Dive, Happy Thanksgiving
or happy whatever you celebrate there is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
There's always more to discover, especially with a holiday as
rich and multifaceted as Thanksgiving. It's been fascinating to explore
how this holiday reflects the incredible diversity of American life.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It really does, doesn't it. It's like a tapestry woven
from so many different things, like individual experiences and family
traditions and cultural influences. And while that traditional Thanksgiving feast
is at the center of it all, it seems like
there are so many different ways people are celebrating and
making the holiday their own these days.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You're absolutely right, and that's reflected in some interesting trends
that we've been seeing. For example, the Smithsonian Folk Life
Festival Archives have documented the rise of these hybrid harvest
festivals in cities across the country. Oh wow, they're blending
different cultural celebrations with traditional Thanksgiving observances.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Oh, that's really cool. So it's not just about incorporating
different dishes into the meal. No, it's about bringing together
different cultural traditions and ways of celebrating exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It reflects that you changing demographics of America and the
increasing desire to incorporate diverse cultural heritages into the Thanksgiving mix. Yeah,
and it's not just about food, it's about storytelling. Music, dance,
all these beautiful ways of expressing gratitude and sharing traditions.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
It sounds like Thanksgiving is becoming even more vibrant and inclusive.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It is. And speaking of inclusivity, yeah, we can't forget
about friendsgiving, right, which has become such a big phenomenon,
especially among younger generations.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
The Pew Research Center found that almost half of all
adults under thirty participate in some form of friendsgiving, either
as an alternative to or in addition to, traditional family gatherings.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Wow. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. In a
world where people are more mobile and family structures are
becoming more diverse, friendsgiving offers a way to create that
sense of belonging in community wherever you are.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's about choosing your own family and celebrating with the
people who matter most to.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You, exactly. And it's not just happening in private homes.
The Urban Institute found that friends giving celebrations are popping
up in college dorms. Oh wow, apartment complexes, and even workplaces.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah. I can see that.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's like this organic movement bringing people together and strengthening
social bonds.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's amazing how this relatively new tradition has taken root
and spread so quickly. It speaks to that fundamental human
need for connection and belonging.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And it's not just individuals who are finding creative ways
to celebrate. I was reading about how community organizations are
transforming the way they approach Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah. The National Coalition of Community Centers reports that traditional
turkey giveaways are being replaced by more interactive and empowering events.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So it's about more than just providing a meal exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's about fostering a sense of belonging and shared experience.
I think community feasts, cooking workshops, cultural exchange programs. Yeah.
The United Way found that a vast majority of their
member organizations now prioritize these kinds of participatory Thanksgiving programs
over simple charitable distributions.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah. So it's like a shift from a charity model
to a community building model.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
It is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That's fantastic. Do you have the examples of this in action?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
There are so many. For instance, in San Francisco's Mission District,
the local Community Center has transformed their Thanksgiving celebration from
a simple meal service to a week long cultural festival.
They have cooking classes, storytelling events, and communal meals that
blend Latin American harvest traditions with American Thanksgiving customs.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Wow, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It is.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's like Thanksgiving is becoming a platform for celebrating diversity
and building bridges between different cultures.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It is, and this spirit of inclusivity is extending to
college campuses as well. The Association of College and University
Housing Administrators found that almost all residential colleges now host
Thanksgiving celebrations for students who stay on campus during the break.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Oh. That's great, especially for international students who might not
have family nearby or be familiar with Thanksgiving traditions.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right. And programs like Yale University's Thanksgiving Hosting Initiative, which
matches international students with local families, are being replicated at
universities all over the country. It's all about create a
sense of welcome and belonging.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's so nice.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
It is.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's a good reminder that Thanksgiving is about so much
more than just the food. Right, It's about connection and community,
And it seems like technology is playing a role in
how we connect and celebrate, especially after the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Absolutely Zoom reported a massive surge in video calls on
Thanksgiving Day in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, and interestingly, a significant percentage of users continued those
virtual gatherings even after pandemic restrictions eased.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, I can see why. For families spread across the
country or even the world, virtual gatherings offer a way
to stay connected and share the holiday, no matter the
distance exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And technology is also helping to raise awareness about alternative
perspectives on Thanksgiving, like the National Day of Mourning. Attendance
at that event has grown significantly in recent years, and
educational institutions across the country are starting to incorporate indigenous
perspectives into their Thanksgiving curricula. The National Education Association has
reported a huge increase in request for Native American educational
(39:15):
materials during November.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Wow, that's great. It's a positive sign that people are
seeking a more complete and nuanced understanding of the holiday's history.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's about acknowledging the complexities of the past and honoring
the experiences of those whose voices have often been marginalized.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Right, And it's not just about history. There's a growing
awareness of the environmental impact of Thanksgiving, and people are
taking steps to celebrate more sustainably. The Environmental Protection Agency
has reported a significant decrease in Thanksgiving food waste in
recent years thanks to things like community composting programs and
food sharing.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Hubs, and the concept of a zero waste Thanksgiving is
gaining traction with people embracing reusable dishwar, minimal packaging, and
careful portion planning.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It sounds like people are finding creative ways to align
their values with their celebrations.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
They are, and this awareness is extending to corporate America
as well. The Society for Human Resource Management found that
a majority of major employers now host eco conscious Thanksgiving events.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's great to see that even big companies are getting
on board with this. It's all about raising awareness and
making Thanksgiving a more sustainable holiday.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It is, and it's not just about reducing waste. People
are thinking more carefully about where their food comes from
and choosing more sustainable options. Sales of organic turkeys, locally
sourced ingredients, and plant based alternatives are all on the rise.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's a reflection of that growing awareness of how our
food choices impact the environment exact. So we've got individuals
making changes, community organizations, even corporations is anyone else getting
involved in this shift toward a more sustainable Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Religious institutions are playing a role as well. The Interfaith
Power and Light Network has documented how congregations are incorporating
locally sourced and greeddiance, reduced meat consumption, and explicit connections
between gratitude and environmental responsibility into their Thanksgiving observances. It's
a powerful example of how faith and values can drive
(41:12):
positive change.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
That's amazing to see how this movement towards a more
sustainable and mindful Thanksgiving is taking root in so many
different sectors of society. But let's not forget about the
role technology plays, not just in helping us cook or
reduce waste, but in creating new forms of community and
connection around the holiday.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
You're absolutely right. Think about online communities like reddits are Thanksgiving?
Oh yeah, It's exploded in recent years, with people sharing recipes,
planning strategies, and even offering emotional support year round.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
It's a great example of how online communities can provide
a sense of belonging, especially for those who might not
have traditional support networks.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And then there are platforms like Instagram and Pinterest, which
have become hubs for sharing Thanksgiving inspiration. Yeah, I've seen
hashtags like hash tech orphans Giving and hashtag chosen Family,
which really highlight how people are finding and creating their
own alternative holiday communities.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's a fascinating way that technology is both reflecting and
shaping the evolution of these traditions. And it's not just
limited to social media. Streaming platforms are transforming the way
we experience Thanksgiving entertainment. Traditional television viewing on Thanksgiving Day
has declined significantly, while streaming services are reporting record breaking
(42:29):
co watching sessions for holiday programming. It's a sign of
how our media consumption habits are changing.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, and it's not just traditional media. I've heard that
even gaming communities are hosting virtual Thanksgiving gatherings on platforms
like discord Right, sharing meals via video while gaming together.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
That's a great example of how technology is creating new
ways to connect and share experiences. It is, and the
maker community is embracing Thanksgiving is a time for creative expression,
with makerspaces hosting works jobs where people can learn to
create everything from three D printed table decorations to laser
cut serving platters.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's amazing how people are using technology to personalize their
Thanksgiving celebrations and create new traditions. Right, So we've covered
a lot of ground here. We've talked about how Thanksgiving
is evolving in terms of inclusivity, sustainability, and the use
of technology. It's clear that the holiday is a reflection
of broader cultural shifts and individual choices.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It really is, and as we look to the future,
it seems like Thanksgiving will continue to adapt to changing
social patterns, technological advancements, and even challenges like climate change.
The Pew Research Center found that younger Americans are increasingly
viewing Thanksgiving is a flexible celebration that can be observed
multiple times throughout the season with different communities.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, that makes sense. Our lives are becoming more fluid,
and so are our definitions of family and community.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Exactly, And the Natural Resources Defense Counsel predicts that the
traditional November timing of Thanksgiving might even shift in some
regions as growing seasons change due to climate change.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It's a reminder that even our most deeply ingrained traditions
must adapt to the realities of a changing world.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
But amidst all these changes, one thing remains constant. That
enduring human need for gratitude, connection, and the simple act
of coming together to share a meal. The Public Religion
Research Institute found that a vast majority of Americans now
identify gratitude and community as the most important aspects of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
That's really heartwarming. It's a reminder that even in a
world that can sometimes feel divided and uncertain, there are
certain values that unite.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Us, and that's the true spirit of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Well said, this deep dive has been an incredible journey.
We've gone from ancient harvest rituals to the modern Thanksgiving feast,
from the impact of technology to the challenges of climate change.
It's clear that Thanksgiving is a complex and evolving holiday,
but it's one that continues to hold a special place
in our hearts and culture.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It does, and as we wrap up this exploration, I
want to leave you with one final thought. How will
you carry the spirit of Thanksgiving with you throughout the year?
How will you express gratitude, cultivate connection, and make a
positive impact on your community.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Those are powerful questions to consider and remember, whether you're
celebrating Thanksgiving in a traditional way, creating your own unique traditions,
or simply taking a moment to reflect on the good
things in your life. We hope this Deep Dive has
given you a fresh perspective on this remarkable holiday from
all of us here at the Deep Dive, Happy Thanksgiving
or happy whatever you celebrate.
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