September 16, 2025 • 33 mins
We’re breaking down the first official look at Doctor Doom from the recent Shanghai marketing expo, where Marvel also revealed the first synopsis for Avengers: Doomsday. Doom has officially entered the MCU, and this iconic villain — armed with science and sorcery — is set to spark a multiverse-shaking crisis unlike anything we’ve seen before.
But that’s not all. We also dive into the shocking reports that Warner Bros. may be sold to Skydance/Paramount, and what that could mean for DC, Hollywood, and fans everywhere. From Marvel’s biggest villain debut to massive studio shakeups, this episode is packed with game-changing updates you don’t want to miss.
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Yes, we are here.
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We We've got a wonderful news field show for you.
It's been a minute or two since we've we've tackled
some of this stuff. First up, we're going to be
covering the Avengers doomsday stuff that came out late last week.
We haven't really talked about it since, uh so we'll
go over that with the doom images and things of
that nature. But the other big one that I think
(01:15):
is going to have some huge ramifications across all of
media is the announcement that there might be a possible
acquisition of Warner Brothers by another company.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So stay tuned, Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
For that one, but we do want to cover really
the Marvel News. Uh late last week it was actually
it was like early last week. Either way, there was
this marketing expo done in Shanghai, China where some images
were released of Doctor.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
First look at Doctor Doom.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Come on, man, say it with some sit with your chest,
some vigor, everybody, Yeah, this is this is This is
not some throwaway villain here. This is not some kang.
This is not a kang varyant my friend, the.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Next big band.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Very true for me when I first saw it, you know,
basically you have classic looking Doctor Doom with his arms crossed.
I mean to me, it looked like just a not
necessarily a photo of what to expect, but a drawing.
I mean, that's that's an anime, not animation, but more
or less the concept art.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's the concept art they're going with, right, that's for
damn sure. Okay, there's no way that that's not the
look of Doctor Doom moving forward for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right. My immediately I went to ardij is a small man.
This looks like a very large, menacing, imposing figure.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Rdiej also walked around on platforms throughout the set of
most of the movies that he was in that made
him eye to eye with the other actors. So it's
not like we haven't seen ways to make smaller actors
much larger. A lah Arnold Schwarzenegger, big dude, pretty short,
but angled up, we'd be fine. I'm feeling they're gonna
(03:02):
be fine. They've gotta be fine.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
It's funny. We've seen so many fake AI doomed things.
I almost didn't believe it when I saw it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So to be honest, I'm skeptical. Yeah, yeah, I'm still
a little skeptical.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Everybody's saying it's like that's the one, but it's like,
you know what, I don't know who's building that is.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The first initial shot look believable, but like the now,
the fine tune, polished shot that we're seeing, yeah, you know,
with the dark background, I think we'll pull that up
in a second. That doesn't necessarily look real.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It looks like maybe somebody took their version of it,
or it could just be released excuse me, leaked concept art,
because I mean, this isn't the first time that we
have apparently seen leaked concept art, you know what I mean.
So he is in the same exact pose. It is
the same exact armor, It is the same exact costume. Now,
this could be an artist rendition, we don't really know,
but as far as act, you're a see to what
(04:01):
was on the side of that building seems pretty spot
on to me.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Yeah, as an artist and I'm looking at it, I
felt like it's the same. It's the same draw, it's
the same suit. There's a different lighting on it, a
little less high resolution.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I like it.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I think all of the elements that you want to
see of Doom are represented.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I mean it does. I think.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I feel like I can confidently say I've seen costplays
that look a little better, But I don't mean that
in a negative way, because those costplays usually are trying
to depict comic version, and this is not necessarily comic version.
This is mcuified Doctor Doom. This is Robert Donna Junior
fied Doctor Doom. This is potentially a variant of Tony
(04:41):
Stark or vice versa Doctor Doom. This isn't the normal
Victor Vaughan that we're so used to from the pages.
This is something different, And I like the way that
the suit has still like the chain mail look, but
like the gauntlets look like there's some tech behind it.
Even the way that the armor looks like the chest
plate armor opposed.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To the cloth. I think it's an interesting approach.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, his Doom's always been the melding of magic
and technology, So to me, this is absolutely perfect.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Bro In the last Cap that America book that's going
on right now, he fight Cap spoiler alert Cat fights Doom,
and the first two moves he makes is this awesome
magical energy blast you'd expect to see, like the green
blast that comes out of him. But then all of
a sudden, those little I guess the where the tunic
kind of covers things, those little shields move over and
(05:33):
rockets start coming out of his shoulders, and I'm like,
this is the Doom I know in love there he is.
There's the magic meets technology. Because you don't really see
the technology part as much. They just got to say
it's technology. But when he's got rockets shooting out of him,
I'm like, well that's pretty clear indication.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
The other I was just to say he has a Kirby. Look,
he's got this cloak, armor and attitude. It's all there,
and I'm sure that when he gets we see him
on the screen, it'll be the same like Tyrant.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
You know that we know, and to be honest with you,
that's the thing that's going to make all the difference
is our first actual time seeing RDJ as Doctor Doom,
not just the costume like with Spider Man, as soon
as you see the costume, you kind of already know
what it's going to be. Like, we none of us
have an idea of how RDJ is going to tackle this,
Like we've heard other actors say he's going to be
great that you know, really need the movie to do well,
(06:22):
so you can only take it with a grain of salt,
but his portrayal is going to be what sells do
nothing more.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Two things also from this, so I'm not exactly sure
who this came from, but it is saying that this
is the official first synopsis and this kind of breaks
down what you guys are just talking about, and that
synopsis' is Avengers Doom's Day. For Avengers Doom's Day is
Doctor Doom has officially arrived in the MCU. This villain,
(06:52):
a master of cutting edge science and powerful magic, will
unleash a cascading crisis across the entire multiverse. Now, if
you remember back to the light Show that was one
of the videos that we put up, you could also
see it looked very very similar to Doctor Strange manifesting
his magic or you know, Long doing the portals, very
(07:15):
much the same, only you know, in green. Very excited
about that, you know. And to hear the to hear
the shoulder mounted rockets, that would be kind of.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Cool too, Man, Captain America, That's all I gotta say,
Captain America. We got other books to talk about, I know,
but Captain America.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm stoked for Doom.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I mean, it's the honestly, it's the thing that's keeping
me invested in the MCU more than anything else right now.
Like I know, Spider Man is going to be a
shoe and then it's going to be a win, but
it's kind of like, I know it's in the fold obviously,
but it feels like it's own thing where the Avengers
haven't really had something special since Endgame, Like they've had attempts,
they've had things that set stories up, but they haven't
(07:58):
had some kind of a tent whole gigantic movie since
a Spider Man flick. You know what, I mean like
Thunderbolts was the closest and it was great, don't get
me wrong, but we haven't had this kind of fanfare, fanfare.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Heavy projects like you know, the Pad on its Back
kind of project.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
They've been waiting for their second wind, you know what
I mean, after that ten year bid and then you know,
doing so well and then the TV shows sort of
like slumping like they've been fighting to come back big way,
and so this is it.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
This is I mean that the.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Marketing around it alone is telling you how much they're
gonna push it. You know, this is no Darth Maul.
This is gonna be you know, do them everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's funny, Hey, go ahead much.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was just gonna say, like, I think they're really
timing a lot of this uh gorilla marketing, you know,
things that people are finding and then posting. Uh, you know,
all the Spider Man stuff is kind of tailed off now.
You know, they're probably well within those studios, you know,
behind closed doors where no one's seeing anything now. So
in order to keep that uh you know pop that
(09:01):
we wanted from everything that's going on, they release some
of this next generation Marvel stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So who knows, well, look we've done.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
We know that Robert Danny Junior is a great actor,
and we've seen that he's able to play very different
versions of characters, regardless of whether or not he feels
like Tony Stark is too embedded in him to even
audition correctly. Since we've seen Oppenheimer. Remember that was the
big the big story with Oppenheimer's that he had hard
time in the first couple of weeks because he couldn't
(09:33):
drop the of the Tony Stark. But we've seen him
grow in that role specifically. I mean, how great was
he in Oppenheimer. So it's it's not a stretch for
him to be an outstanding Doctor Doom. It's still not
that exciting as far as RDJ until I actually see it.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah, Well, they're not telling you anything about what it's
gonna be or what it's gonna be based on, So
it's so up in the air, even though I'm sure
they've got some kind of playing. Everybody's waiting to find
out how has he become Doctor Doom.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And how well can he pull it off?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I gotta I'm positive the Russos have an interesting idea.
They have a good end. Whether or not it's Tony
Stark was always a Victor von Doom, and the he
who remains has manipulated the timeline to allow that Doom
to become Tony Stark. Or if this just is a
different variation of the character who has the same face,
I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I think they're gonna nail that.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
I don't know about Downey's performance yet, and that's what
I mean. I know if he's a great actor, but
I still can't picture this, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, I have no A lot of times when somebody's like,
you know, Tom.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Hawllan' is gonna play Spider Man, you kind of have
an idea of what that's gonna look like. I have
no idea what Robert Tanny Junior is Doctor Doom's gonna
look like. Do you can you truly picture what that's
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
No, right time you think about it, I'm seeing iron
Man exactly playing Doctor Doom. So no, yeah, you're right,
I don't know. Oh man, I have to probably go
back and watch him a bolt Downy's older movies to see.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know, trot won't help you in that doubt.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
That will not, But again proves bounce around characters with
no problem.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So he is talented enough to do it, there's no question.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I just can't really see it yet because he is
I mean, he has become so part and parcel to
Tony Stark. The idea of him as another MCU character
is just hard to visualize and and I think that's
going to play a role on how excited people are.
I think that first trailer of him playing Doom is
going to be the thing that just gets people. That's
(11:38):
gonna skyrocket the enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yep. Yeah, which may.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
If he starts like you know, with masks obviously mask
go on, you know, it's gonna be voice and mannerisms
that you're gonna have to pick the character the characteristics
up of so not so much like you won't be
you know, fooled by his face so much if he's
gonna behind the mask, so I think it'll give it
a bigger opperportunity to give him a little more attitude,
like behind that mask, to like be more dramatic, to
(12:05):
be more doom like.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Although did you hear that that was part of why
the reshoots had to happen, is that they had a
guy be the body of Doom and he was just
doing voiceovers. He harently hated it. Yeah, they so they
all had to reshoot the scenes with Downey then in
the suit.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, he should be in the suit. He should be
able to. I mean, Doom is a very theatrical character,
so much such so, you know, and Robert Downey Junior is.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
A phenomenal actor.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
We all love them, so to give him the space
to be the theatrical character, I think it's going to
have to really drum up that high theater, you know, behavior,
the over dramatics, imposturing in position.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is I mean, that's up Downy juniors, that's I mean,
that's his wheelhouse. There's ever a wheelhouse, right, yeah, right.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I mean it's not a huge leap to go from
Tony Stock to Tony Stark to doctor Doom.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
It really is not. You might think it is, but
they're both, as Buzz is saying, so atrical and over
the top. One's just a steroid version of the other.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Once with the trailers, we may be gained that before
the end of the year, and our rumors out that
we will be getting a trailer within the next month
and a half or.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So, so they probably have enough footage by now to
put something out.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Still bet you that it's just going to be a
teaser and you won't see any kind of down. He
won't make you won't hear his voice even it'll just
be showing his showing the mask for the first time
or something.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah on YouTube, it's going to take five hours to premiere.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Chairs coming we do which that rumored to drop and
drop what weeks ago? We haven't got anything.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, you know what, maybe they're holding off on that
because of all the backlash. I mean I should say
all the backlash because that's overhyping out way too much.
But the people who made an interesting point about seeing
Thunderbolts after seeing the chairs, the chairs kind of ruin
everything true you your no, everyone's fine and fantastic four
n Thunderbolts because of the chair reveal true.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Verses with the play.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
They could still be what's coming out though between like
what's coming out now? That could ruin that if they
drop more chairs.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Chair nothing.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's true like they keep especially with Spider Man coming out,
they want to have some some build to that. If
they say Tom Holland's going to be in Doomsday, then
you know that Spidey's cool Hall computis aren't doing much
to him at least and if you get if you so,
the more people that you announced at this point, the
more likely it is you are going to ruin any
kind of surprise. Like, for example, if Daredevil shows up
(14:37):
in No Way Home, don't show me with a chair.
If he shows up in Doomsday, don't show me with
a chair. You've used enough chairs. We're done with the chairs.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
For real. I could just imagine how excited you would
be if John Berenthal shows up.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
First like we said, no, you dare do that to
John Berenthal.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
First off, Spiderman showing up in the Civil War trailer
ruined it because that would been great to go into
the movie knowing, not knowing he's showing up and bam,
they're Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well they've been doing that since the first term, right.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But that's how we look at it. Other people are like,
oh my god, Spider Man's in this. I have to
go see it. So it's also a point.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Regardless though, the movie is still the most exciting thing
that's coming around the NERD pipeline. So it's it's not
like it's not like they don't have day one money
for me, or probably even.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Two weekends in a row money for me.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I might as well buy tickets in advance to multiple weekends,
because we know damn well regardless, this movie could get
the shittiest reviews ever and I'm still going to see it.
It's unfortunately like that last not the last Fantastic for
but the last last Fantastic four opening weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
If I'm willing to do that, God only knows what
I'm willing to do for our DJ.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Doom think we're going to be coming out of the
woodwork just to see RDJ doom it, whether they like
the movie or not. I'm not even that's not even
a conversation yet.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
We're not even talking about the X Men showing up.
Like that's not much, right, right, right, there's enough. There's
enough with just Channing Tatum saying he's getting into fights
with doctor Doom, that that's an interesting gambit. Fighting Doom
already is something that's interesting. What's his name, Nightcrawler fight
mister Fantastic something interesting. But all we're going is like,
(16:24):
but can Robert Danna Jr. Be theatrical enough to be dooe?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I think?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Do you think that Jonathan Major's rumors are circuling because
of a plot point in the storyline.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think it's because everybody listened to me. Yeah, that
guy knows what he's talking about. We brought that up before.
But yeah, I guess it's catching more steam.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, I don't see why not.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well, the roost so anybody who's not aware of the
rumor is that Jonathan Majors will actually re appear as
Kang in Doomsday, which if that's true, it will be
an end credit scene or right at the very end
where he is. The version of the Beyonder, which was
the original leaked plan for him in the first place,
is the one that got sucked in the Quantum Realm
or further down below the Quantum Realm comes back out
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as the they're the MCU's version of the Beyonder, and
then that version mixed with Doctor Doom or Doctor Doom
pulling away all of the power from that version of
Kang creates God King Doom, which then creates battle World
for Secret Wars to take place on.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
He's just shown up for Doom to kill him essentially, or.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Just yeah, just Yank his powers are they I mean,
they could do some stuff where like he's not actually
dead and like in the Secret Wars they have to
free the Beyonder for the Beyonder to take his power
back or some nonsense like that. Because you know these movies,
the plot doesn't never get too crazy. Usually they have
to go find something to then team up with so
and so to then beat so and so, and maybe
the so and so is Kang.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You think you think that'll be at the end of
the movie or the beginning.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
What the Kang part?
Speaker 5 (17:58):
What I just said, I would say that's probably midway
through the movie, and then all a sudden, Doom will
be like I knew you were coming because Doom knows all.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
That's where all the timelines were splicing and getting messed up.
So it opens up the door for you know, this
alternative you know, villain to.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Come through Doom versus Loki's gotta be awesome.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You know, That's that's what I mean, Like it's it's
basically that's deleting right there. You know, all the timelines
are there. They bled it over into Deadpool Wolverine. They're
kind of using the TVA as a way to like
keep pushing their multiverse.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I think it works too. I still see you know,
it seems like that's what they would do.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
There are one hundred percent wrapping it up as fast
as they can. They're like, oh, yeah, we're all sick
of the multiverse at this point. We're with you, but
we've put too much money into this. Give us two
more years, give us two more years, we'll get rid
of this.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I think I think you said the magic word. They're meantee,
wrap it up, wrap.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
It up, wrap it up, be wrap it up. All right, Well,
what's going on with Paramount? Let's move over to that
crazy ass story.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's exactly what it could be. Paramount is looking to
spend a whole lot of money and try to purchase
Warner Brothers before anybody else gets a crack at it.
So earlier this week, I think it came out of
the Wall Street Journal that the Ellison's mostly David Ellison,
(19:18):
who is running Paramount, what sky Dance Paramount is. They're
basically trying to just buy out Warner Brothers right now
before it goes to a the split happening that Zaslov
wants to do, and then also before anybody else gets
a shot at buying any of the property.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So eight point four billion dollar bid, No.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
No, no, no, that's what they bought. That's what Sky
sky Dance bought. Paramount that's to say that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Paramounts were Paramounts worth eight point four billion. What does
Water Brothers want?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So the the initial bid looks to be between sixty
five eighty billion dollars, which if you're familiar with David
Ellison's father, who is Larry Ellison, who owns or is
responsible for forty two percent of Oracle. For a brief
moment last week, he was actually the world's most the
(20:17):
world's richest person, uh, superseding Elon for you know, a
brief moment there. When this information came out, Oracle stock
went up, Sky Dances stock went up, everything went up. Yeah,
so you know they they have the backing to do this.
The shareholders, to my understanding, do want to go with
(20:40):
this because it's it's one it's a cash bid and
all of the property just goes to the other company.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
And that's the big thing, right, They like they are
not allowed to move because they were originally looking to
off some of their media somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But well there's bid.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They're not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Right, and with a cat you know, cash is king,
you know, and they can pay for it. Otherwise they're
going to split it off into the two different you know,
like the streaming versus the I forget the details exactly,
but it's like, you know, streaming to one end and
then like the news portion of it, CBS and CNN
(21:20):
at that point, right right, Well yeah, para Paramount hase CBS,
but they would.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
After that, they'd have CNN, which is at that point
you've got a pretty powerful news arm at that you know,
under one umbrella.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Right, But also think of it from the movie standpoints.
So you have two major production you know, you have
Paramount and then you have obviously Warner Brothers.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Well not even that, I mean just Skydance alone. I
mean that brings in. I mean, isn't that how to
Train Your Dragon? Isn't that Shrek?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Isn't that? Those aren't small?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That's sky Dance, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But you know, think of it from this perspective. If
you have a thousand different writers that works for your
h you know, production studio or whatever, you know, chances
are when you absorb the other company, you're probably still
now you have two thousand. What are you gonna do?
You're going to downside's like they've been doing that with Paramount. Yeah,
(22:18):
they cut like two thousand jobs over the last you know,
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And they'll have to sell off some divisions kind of
what Disney had to do, right, like ESPN and stuff
like that. So for the brief time though, I could
have I could have Nickelodeon and Transformers with all my
DC characters.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Dude, not just that.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I mean, this is the the ip under one umbrella
from this is wild. I mean we're talking not just
the Nickelodeon and Transformers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Star Trek is Harry Potter.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Harry Potter correct, I mean this is all of HBO. Yeah,
the wire all of a sudden, the last of us.
I mean, the the amount of of the amount of
media that they're about to now have under one app
is one hundred percent a Disney plus Killer.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well that's that's when you compare those numbers. So right now,
if I'm not mistaken, Paramount plus Slash Skuid Dances sitting
at like seventy five million subscribers, Warner Brothers and everything
under it is about one twenty five so you're really
gonna now you're bumping up to two hundred million, which
is right in line with Disney and all that under
one app Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
And don't get me wrong, I mean Disney is the
same thing. Disney has some of the greatest ips that
to ever exists. But now with this merger, they are
there's no question they have the biggest competitor nipping at
their heels with an answer to pretty much everything they have.
Oh you got Star Wars, we got Star Treks. I
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oh you've got Marvel, we got DC.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I say they're standing on top of them.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Eh, not just yet. It's close. It's close.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I feel like I feel like it's it's going to
be you start to come more equal, you know what
I mean. And if with your with a pop culture
media like leading the pack first, like you know, indie
things doing well, this brings a new player into the game,
having all these different characters that they can do things with.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Now I wonder if I wonder if DC absorbs Ninja Turtles, Well,
I mean that just becomes a good point, just becomes
a turtle. The Turtles just become a DC book.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see why.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I mean, moving forward, It might not be like a
fan favorite idea, but I could see it being something
that they would absolutely do, because you know, when Disney
acquired Marvel, they talked about not touching any of the
characters and they went right ahead and did.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Look at we've got Predator and Alien books. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
like we're gonna do it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I think we'll get more Star Trek books, I think,
and I think DC will helm a lot like Look
when when Disney got.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Star Wars and Marvel all stay Star Wars Marvel books
came out.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, if they if they pulled that from idw id
w will close because they got they have Star Trek,
they have Turtles.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I don't as sad as that is, and I would
hate to see that happen. I highly doubt Paramount Water
Brothers won't care. They'll just buy them it as an imprint.
You know, you put Warner Brothers in the trademark and
you just keep it as an imprint. I don't think
they like would rechange it all. It would just be
owned by them. And then you start seeing the bleedover. Yeah,
Jason Aaron's book All a Sudden starts getting printed in
(25:20):
the same way that you know Ko is going to
be printed exactly.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, you get, you'll get you'll get crossovers with Ninja
Turtles and Superman.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You already had you already had you already had it
with Batman.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
There's one group of characters. I don't care how many
times you use them in whatever properties. You put an
Ninja Turtles in something, I'm in like.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's it's works.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Like you guys were all like, no more Godzilla crossovers,
and I'm like, well, this is after this last one.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I was like that, I'm getting a little crossover out.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh I don't. I don't blame you.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
But at the same time, no, at the Ninja Turtles
und crossover with Godzilla, shut your shut them out.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
For all this to really happen. There's there's a lot
of things in play.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Oh and I'm sure Disney's gonna put as many wrenches
in the Gears as hugely as possible.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
If it doesn't get to that point. So yeah, I mean,
there are there are other suitors in this, Comcast, Apple,
there's a couple other you know, Sony, potentially Amazon, you
know there there are some but the fact that that
they're all putting in bids that would like to take
some of this property.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Oh I heard, because yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
The James Gunns.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Whole DCU really lies on how well Superman Peacemaker and
potentially the uh super Girl sales, ticket sales, depending on
how far this gets pushed out, whether or not they
end up off loading DC somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Right. But that's the thing. If it if it never
gets to the point where they split the overall company
and you know, sky Dance comes in and purchase this
or attempts to purchase this, there's still a whole bunch
of like hoops that they need to go through from
a regulatory standpoint years away. So but the thing is,
you have Ellison, who is you know, conservative Republican, in
(27:10):
the back pocket of of you know, things that are
going on in DC. The potential for them to just
push this through is pretty substantial because that's really what
they did with There was no no big backlash with
Skydance taking over Paramount, which was also kind of a
big move. They just let it go through, so it
(27:32):
could potentially happen again.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I mean, it's it's a it's a it's a weird
spot to be in because you would I'm not against it,
but I would love to I'd love it to go
through the regular, the normal regulatory process that anything else
would go through.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I would prefer that.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But if it, if it were to then make it
and become a thing, it's not like I'm not signing
up for that service. Yeah, there's no way that's not happening.
I and first off, and that just we were talking
about them offloading things. Anything they offload that has any
kind of substance behind it, Netflix will pick in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean they've wanted their and then cancel in two years. Yeah, no,
I don't think they would cancel that.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I really don't, because they so desperately want a big franchise.
They just don't animes right, but they cancel everything else
because nothing gets the audience and worth paying for it.
I don't blame them, but anime is there so far
their bread and butter, Right, Wednesday is one of their
bread and butter pieces.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Stranger things, but they don't probably canceled next week.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
They don't have that connected universe. Yeah, Wednesday's not got
canceling it, absolute dude. The Wednesday is there's gonna be
a theme park right down the Street from us. It's
gonna have Wednesday in one piece. There's no way red
of one.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well we are. We are going to that opening day
and recording stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
No question.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
With the Netflix Utflix Netflix House, they're indoor theme essentially
at multiple locations around the world.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's gonna have a movie theater, just.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Like we tell it. He's so excited, so much, but
I can't even finish it.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Look, I work in the area. I see them painting
the outside of the building every day.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So it's finishing up.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Buddy.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What else we got?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh, they've got movie movies from where? You got mini golf? Yeah,
mini golf?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Uh got it for where? But like each one? And
I think there's one in New Jersey that's gonna get
Stranger Things something like that. But there, but that there.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Major franchises are getting split up between all of these
different locations. So that way if you visit, like, for example,
if you go to uh six Flags here Great Adventure,
you get the Superman ride where you kind of lean
back it looks like you're flying. But the Superman ride
in California is the one that just shoots you straight
up and the Superman's up there with a camera and
it takes a quick picture of you and then you
fall back down. So it's completely different experiences depending on
(29:58):
what park you go to, and that's kind of of
what they're trying to do this To me, it seems
like their version of Downtown, not Downtown Disney disney Quest.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Do you guys remember Disney Quest.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I love that place.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Disney Quest was awesome, and that's what this seems like.
Netflix's version of Disney Quest with you know, money golf. Oh, yes,
we got mini golf.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
There's gonna be VR stations, tons of food options in there.
Of course, you know shops is still it's gonna be
like David Busters. Yeah, there's also a theater. They said
a movie theater. There's also another theater to do trivia
nights and ticket at events. So it's good, you know,
one shop stop for all.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
There an opening like an opening day date.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yes, October seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Is that a Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
That's a Saturday.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I guess I heard somewhere that Fester is getting show.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
It a Friday.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Uncle Pfester's get a show.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think I saw that.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
It wouldn't surprise me again, there's Wednesday is like a
tent pole. Remember when they remember we used to Harley
Quinn was the fourth pillar of DC. Yeah, she made
she brought in so much money that that's what she
That's what Wednesday is to Netflix.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Now Yeah going, Sorry, tickets go and sale. October's October
seven time.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh okay, fun, Yeah, it'll be.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I mean, I don't I don't know how we got
too much onto that.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
But again, the franchise, the franchises of Netflix aren't that.
I mean, they're great, don't get me wrong, but they're
not like this interconnected universe that everybody else seems to have.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They don't have theirs yet, and they desperately want it.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
You are you suggesting that DC might get dropped by
Warner Brothers.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I'm saying that if DC were to get dropped by
Warner Brothers, I will put a million dollars up that
Netflix is the first big bid you see.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
No, I agree with you on that.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I was just I don't think anyone's letting go of DC.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I do. I mean that rumor has been thrown around
for a while. It's because because Superman didn't do as
well as they would have liked. But the potential of
the universe is there.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Honestly, I think Amazon will throw everything.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh, I didn't even think of Amazon after after.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
The Bond acquisition, and I think they'll go after it hard.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
That's a good point. That's a very good point.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, Moscow new Bond comic in the DC Universe.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Bond movie, like the last comic.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Ooh, that'd be fantastic.
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It's been a minute or two since we've we've tackled
some of this stuff. First up, we're going to be
covering the Avengers doomsday stuff that came out late last week.
We haven't really talked about it since, uh so we'll
go over that with the doom images and things of
that nature. But the other big one that I think
(01:15):
is going to have some huge ramifications across all of
media is the announcement that there might be a possible
acquisition of Warner Brothers by another company.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So stay tuned, Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
For that one, but we do want to cover really
the Marvel News. Uh late last week it was actually
it was like early last week. Either way, there was
this marketing expo done in Shanghai, China where some images
were released of Doctor.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
First look at Doctor Doom.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Come on, man, say it with some sit with your chest,
some vigor, everybody, Yeah, this is this is This is
not some throwaway villain here. This is not some kang.
This is not a kang varyant my friend, the.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Next big band.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Very true for me when I first saw it, you know,
basically you have classic looking Doctor Doom with his arms crossed.
I mean to me, it looked like just a not
necessarily a photo of what to expect, but a drawing.
I mean, that's that's an anime, not animation, but more
or less the concept art.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's the concept art they're going with, right, that's for
damn sure. Okay, there's no way that that's not the
look of Doctor Doom moving forward for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right. My immediately I went to ardij is a small man.
This looks like a very large, menacing, imposing figure.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Rdiej also walked around on platforms throughout the set of
most of the movies that he was in that made
him eye to eye with the other actors. So it's
not like we haven't seen ways to make smaller actors
much larger. A lah Arnold Schwarzenegger, big dude, pretty short,
but angled up, we'd be fine. I'm feeling they're gonna
(03:02):
be fine. They've gotta be fine.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
It's funny. We've seen so many fake AI doomed things.
I almost didn't believe it when I saw it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So to be honest, I'm skeptical. Yeah, yeah, I'm still
a little skeptical.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Everybody's saying it's like that's the one, but it's like,
you know what, I don't know who's building that is.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The first initial shot look believable, but like the now,
the fine tune, polished shot that we're seeing, yeah, you know,
with the dark background, I think we'll pull that up
in a second. That doesn't necessarily look real.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It looks like maybe somebody took their version of it,
or it could just be released excuse me, leaked concept art,
because I mean, this isn't the first time that we
have apparently seen leaked concept art, you know what I mean.
So he is in the same exact pose. It is
the same exact armor, It is the same exact costume. Now,
this could be an artist rendition, we don't really know,
but as far as act, you're a see to what
(04:01):
was on the side of that building seems pretty spot
on to me.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Yeah, as an artist and I'm looking at it, I
felt like it's the same. It's the same draw, it's
the same suit. There's a different lighting on it, a
little less high resolution.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I like it.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I think all of the elements that you want to
see of Doom are represented.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I mean it does. I think.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I feel like I can confidently say I've seen costplays
that look a little better, But I don't mean that
in a negative way, because those costplays usually are trying
to depict comic version, and this is not necessarily comic version.
This is mcuified Doctor Doom. This is Robert Donna Junior
fied Doctor Doom. This is potentially a variant of Tony
(04:41):
Stark or vice versa Doctor Doom. This isn't the normal
Victor Vaughan that we're so used to from the pages.
This is something different, And I like the way that
the suit has still like the chain mail look, but
like the gauntlets look like there's some tech behind it.
Even the way that the armor looks like the chest
plate armor opposed.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To the cloth. I think it's an interesting approach.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, his Doom's always been the melding of magic
and technology, So to me, this is absolutely perfect.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Bro In the last Cap that America book that's going
on right now, he fight Cap spoiler alert Cat fights Doom,
and the first two moves he makes is this awesome
magical energy blast you'd expect to see, like the green
blast that comes out of him. But then all of
a sudden, those little I guess the where the tunic
kind of covers things, those little shields move over and
(05:33):
rockets start coming out of his shoulders, and I'm like,
this is the Doom I know in love there he is.
There's the magic meets technology. Because you don't really see
the technology part as much. They just got to say
it's technology. But when he's got rockets shooting out of him,
I'm like, well that's pretty clear indication.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
The other I was just to say he has a Kirby. Look,
he's got this cloak, armor and attitude. It's all there,
and I'm sure that when he gets we see him
on the screen, it'll be the same like Tyrant.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
You know that we know, and to be honest with you,
that's the thing that's going to make all the difference
is our first actual time seeing RDJ as Doctor Doom,
not just the costume like with Spider Man, as soon
as you see the costume, you kind of already know
what it's going to be. Like, we none of us
have an idea of how RDJ is going to tackle this,
Like we've heard other actors say he's going to be
great that you know, really need the movie to do well,
(06:22):
so you can only take it with a grain of salt,
but his portrayal is going to be what sells do
nothing more.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Two things also from this, so I'm not exactly sure
who this came from, but it is saying that this
is the official first synopsis and this kind of breaks
down what you guys are just talking about, and that
synopsis' is Avengers Doom's Day. For Avengers Doom's Day is
Doctor Doom has officially arrived in the MCU. This villain,
(06:52):
a master of cutting edge science and powerful magic, will
unleash a cascading crisis across the entire multiverse. Now, if
you remember back to the light Show that was one
of the videos that we put up, you could also
see it looked very very similar to Doctor Strange manifesting
his magic or you know, Long doing the portals, very
(07:15):
much the same, only you know, in green. Very excited
about that, you know. And to hear the to hear
the shoulder mounted rockets, that would be kind of.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Cool too, Man, Captain America, That's all I gotta say,
Captain America. We got other books to talk about, I know,
but Captain America.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm stoked for Doom.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I mean, it's the honestly, it's the thing that's keeping
me invested in the MCU more than anything else right now.
Like I know, Spider Man is going to be a
shoe and then it's going to be a win, but
it's kind of like, I know it's in the fold obviously,
but it feels like it's own thing where the Avengers
haven't really had something special since Endgame, Like they've had attempts,
they've had things that set stories up, but they haven't
(07:58):
had some kind of a tent whole gigantic movie since
a Spider Man flick. You know what, I mean like
Thunderbolts was the closest and it was great, don't get
me wrong, but we haven't had this kind of fanfare, fanfare.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Heavy projects like you know, the Pad on its Back
kind of project.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
They've been waiting for their second wind, you know what
I mean, after that ten year bid and then you know,
doing so well and then the TV shows sort of
like slumping like they've been fighting to come back big way,
and so this is it.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
This is I mean that the.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Marketing around it alone is telling you how much they're
gonna push it. You know, this is no Darth Maul.
This is gonna be you know, do them everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's funny, Hey, go ahead much.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was just gonna say, like, I think they're really
timing a lot of this uh gorilla marketing, you know,
things that people are finding and then posting. Uh, you know,
all the Spider Man stuff is kind of tailed off now.
You know, they're probably well within those studios, you know,
behind closed doors where no one's seeing anything now. So
in order to keep that uh you know pop that
(09:01):
we wanted from everything that's going on, they release some
of this next generation Marvel stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So who knows, well, look we've done.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
We know that Robert Danny Junior is a great actor,
and we've seen that he's able to play very different
versions of characters, regardless of whether or not he feels
like Tony Stark is too embedded in him to even
audition correctly. Since we've seen Oppenheimer. Remember that was the
big the big story with Oppenheimer's that he had hard
time in the first couple of weeks because he couldn't
(09:33):
drop the of the Tony Stark. But we've seen him
grow in that role specifically. I mean, how great was
he in Oppenheimer. So it's it's not a stretch for
him to be an outstanding Doctor Doom. It's still not
that exciting as far as RDJ until I actually see it.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah, Well, they're not telling you anything about what it's
gonna be or what it's gonna be based on, So
it's so up in the air, even though I'm sure
they've got some kind of playing. Everybody's waiting to find
out how has he become Doctor Doom.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And how well can he pull it off?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I gotta I'm positive the Russos have an interesting idea.
They have a good end. Whether or not it's Tony
Stark was always a Victor von Doom, and the he
who remains has manipulated the timeline to allow that Doom
to become Tony Stark. Or if this just is a
different variation of the character who has the same face,
I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I think they're gonna nail that.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
I don't know about Downey's performance yet, and that's what
I mean. I know if he's a great actor, but
I still can't picture this, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, I have no A lot of times when somebody's like,
you know, Tom.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Hawllan' is gonna play Spider Man, you kind of have
an idea of what that's gonna look like. I have
no idea what Robert Tanny Junior is Doctor Doom's gonna
look like. Do you can you truly picture what that's
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
No, right time you think about it, I'm seeing iron
Man exactly playing Doctor Doom. So no, yeah, you're right,
I don't know. Oh man, I have to probably go
back and watch him a bolt Downy's older movies to see.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know, trot won't help you in that doubt.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
That will not, But again proves bounce around characters with
no problem.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So he is talented enough to do it, there's no question.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I just can't really see it yet because he is
I mean, he has become so part and parcel to
Tony Stark. The idea of him as another MCU character
is just hard to visualize and and I think that's
going to play a role on how excited people are.
I think that first trailer of him playing Doom is
going to be the thing that just gets people. That's
(11:38):
gonna skyrocket the enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yep. Yeah, which may.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
If he starts like you know, with masks obviously mask
go on, you know, it's gonna be voice and mannerisms
that you're gonna have to pick the character the characteristics
up of so not so much like you won't be
you know, fooled by his face so much if he's
gonna behind the mask, so I think it'll give it
a bigger opperportunity to give him a little more attitude,
like behind that mask, to like be more dramatic, to
(12:05):
be more doom like.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Although did you hear that that was part of why
the reshoots had to happen, is that they had a
guy be the body of Doom and he was just
doing voiceovers. He harently hated it. Yeah, they so they
all had to reshoot the scenes with Downey then in
the suit.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, he should be in the suit. He should be
able to. I mean, Doom is a very theatrical character,
so much such so, you know, and Robert Downey Junior is.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
A phenomenal actor.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
We all love them, so to give him the space
to be the theatrical character, I think it's going to
have to really drum up that high theater, you know, behavior,
the over dramatics, imposturing in position.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is I mean, that's up Downy juniors, that's I mean,
that's his wheelhouse. There's ever a wheelhouse, right, yeah, right.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I mean it's not a huge leap to go from
Tony Stock to Tony Stark to doctor Doom.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
It really is not. You might think it is, but
they're both, as Buzz is saying, so atrical and over
the top. One's just a steroid version of the other.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Once with the trailers, we may be gained that before
the end of the year, and our rumors out that
we will be getting a trailer within the next month
and a half or.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So, so they probably have enough footage by now to
put something out.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Still bet you that it's just going to be a
teaser and you won't see any kind of down. He
won't make you won't hear his voice even it'll just
be showing his showing the mask for the first time
or something.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah on YouTube, it's going to take five hours to premiere.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Chairs coming we do which that rumored to drop and
drop what weeks ago? We haven't got anything.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, you know what, maybe they're holding off on that
because of all the backlash. I mean I should say
all the backlash because that's overhyping out way too much.
But the people who made an interesting point about seeing
Thunderbolts after seeing the chairs, the chairs kind of ruin
everything true you your no, everyone's fine and fantastic four
n Thunderbolts because of the chair reveal true.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Verses with the play.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
They could still be what's coming out though between like
what's coming out now? That could ruin that if they
drop more chairs.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Chair nothing.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's true like they keep especially with Spider Man coming out,
they want to have some some build to that. If
they say Tom Holland's going to be in Doomsday, then
you know that Spidey's cool Hall computis aren't doing much
to him at least and if you get if you so,
the more people that you announced at this point, the
more likely it is you are going to ruin any
kind of surprise. Like, for example, if Daredevil shows up
(14:37):
in No Way Home, don't show me with a chair.
If he shows up in Doomsday, don't show me with
a chair. You've used enough chairs. We're done with the chairs.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
For real. I could just imagine how excited you would
be if John Berenthal shows up.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
First like we said, no, you dare do that to
John Berenthal.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
First off, Spiderman showing up in the Civil War trailer
ruined it because that would been great to go into
the movie knowing, not knowing he's showing up and bam,
they're Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well they've been doing that since the first term, right.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But that's how we look at it. Other people are like,
oh my god, Spider Man's in this. I have to
go see it. So it's also a point.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Regardless though, the movie is still the most exciting thing
that's coming around the NERD pipeline. So it's it's not
like it's not like they don't have day one money
for me, or probably even.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Two weekends in a row money for me.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I might as well buy tickets in advance to multiple weekends,
because we know damn well regardless, this movie could get
the shittiest reviews ever and I'm still going to see it.
It's unfortunately like that last not the last Fantastic for
but the last last Fantastic four opening weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
If I'm willing to do that, God only knows what
I'm willing to do for our DJ.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Doom think we're going to be coming out of the
woodwork just to see RDJ doom it, whether they like
the movie or not. I'm not even that's not even
a conversation yet.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
We're not even talking about the X Men showing up.
Like that's not much, right, right, right, there's enough. There's
enough with just Channing Tatum saying he's getting into fights
with doctor Doom, that that's an interesting gambit. Fighting Doom
already is something that's interesting. What's his name, Nightcrawler fight
mister Fantastic something interesting. But all we're going is like,
(16:24):
but can Robert Danna Jr. Be theatrical enough to be dooe?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I think?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Do you think that Jonathan Major's rumors are circuling because
of a plot point in the storyline.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think it's because everybody listened to me. Yeah, that
guy knows what he's talking about. We brought that up before.
But yeah, I guess it's catching more steam.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, I don't see why not.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well, the roost so anybody who's not aware of the
rumor is that Jonathan Majors will actually re appear as
Kang in Doomsday, which if that's true, it will be
an end credit scene or right at the very end
where he is. The version of the Beyonder, which was
the original leaked plan for him in the first place,
is the one that got sucked in the Quantum Realm
or further down below the Quantum Realm comes back out
(17:10):
as the they're the MCU's version of the Beyonder, and
then that version mixed with Doctor Doom or Doctor Doom
pulling away all of the power from that version of
Kang creates God King Doom, which then creates battle World
for Secret Wars to take place on.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
He's just shown up for Doom to kill him essentially, or.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Just yeah, just Yank his powers are they I mean,
they could do some stuff where like he's not actually
dead and like in the Secret Wars they have to
free the Beyonder for the Beyonder to take his power
back or some nonsense like that. Because you know these movies,
the plot doesn't never get too crazy. Usually they have
to go find something to then team up with so
and so to then beat so and so, and maybe
the so and so is Kang.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You think you think that'll be at the end of
the movie or the beginning.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
What the Kang part?
Speaker 5 (17:58):
What I just said, I would say that's probably midway
through the movie, and then all a sudden, Doom will
be like I knew you were coming because Doom knows all.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
That's where all the timelines were splicing and getting messed up.
So it opens up the door for you know, this
alternative you know, villain to.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Come through Doom versus Loki's gotta be awesome.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You know, That's that's what I mean, Like it's it's
basically that's deleting right there. You know, all the timelines
are there. They bled it over into Deadpool Wolverine. They're
kind of using the TVA as a way to like
keep pushing their multiverse.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I think it works too. I still see you know,
it seems like that's what they would do.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
There are one hundred percent wrapping it up as fast
as they can. They're like, oh, yeah, we're all sick
of the multiverse at this point. We're with you, but
we've put too much money into this. Give us two
more years, give us two more years, we'll get rid
of this.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I think I think you said the magic word. They're meantee,
wrap it up, wrap.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
It up, wrap it up, be wrap it up. All right, Well,
what's going on with Paramount? Let's move over to that
crazy ass story.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's exactly what it could be. Paramount is looking to
spend a whole lot of money and try to purchase
Warner Brothers before anybody else gets a crack at it.
So earlier this week, I think it came out of
the Wall Street Journal that the Ellison's mostly David Ellison,
(19:18):
who is running Paramount, what sky Dance Paramount is. They're
basically trying to just buy out Warner Brothers right now
before it goes to a the split happening that Zaslov
wants to do, and then also before anybody else gets
a shot at buying any of the property.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So eight point four billion dollar bid, No.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
No, no, no, that's what they bought. That's what Sky
sky Dance bought. Paramount that's to say that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Paramounts were Paramounts worth eight point four billion. What does
Water Brothers want?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So the the initial bid looks to be between sixty
five eighty billion dollars, which if you're familiar with David
Ellison's father, who is Larry Ellison, who owns or is
responsible for forty two percent of Oracle. For a brief
moment last week, he was actually the world's most the
(20:17):
world's richest person, uh, superseding Elon for you know, a
brief moment there. When this information came out, Oracle stock
went up, Sky Dances stock went up, everything went up. Yeah,
so you know they they have the backing to do this.
The shareholders, to my understanding, do want to go with
(20:40):
this because it's it's one it's a cash bid and
all of the property just goes to the other company.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
And that's the big thing, right, They like they are
not allowed to move because they were originally looking to
off some of their media somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But well there's bid.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They're not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Right, and with a cat you know, cash is king,
you know, and they can pay for it. Otherwise they're
going to split it off into the two different you know,
like the streaming versus the I forget the details exactly,
but it's like, you know, streaming to one end and
then like the news portion of it, CBS and CNN
(21:20):
at that point, right right, Well yeah, para Paramount hase CBS,
but they would.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
After that, they'd have CNN, which is at that point
you've got a pretty powerful news arm at that you know,
under one umbrella.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Right, But also think of it from the movie standpoints.
So you have two major production you know, you have
Paramount and then you have obviously Warner Brothers.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Well not even that, I mean just Skydance alone. I
mean that brings in. I mean, isn't that how to
Train Your Dragon? Isn't that Shrek?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Isn't that? Those aren't small?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That's sky Dance, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But you know, think of it from this perspective. If
you have a thousand different writers that works for your
h you know, production studio or whatever, you know, chances
are when you absorb the other company, you're probably still
now you have two thousand. What are you gonna do?
You're going to downside's like they've been doing that with Paramount. Yeah,
(22:18):
they cut like two thousand jobs over the last you know,
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And they'll have to sell off some divisions kind of
what Disney had to do, right, like ESPN and stuff
like that. So for the brief time though, I could
have I could have Nickelodeon and Transformers with all my
DC characters.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Dude, not just that.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I mean, this is the the ip under one umbrella
from this is wild. I mean we're talking not just
the Nickelodeon and Transformers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Star Trek is Harry Potter.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Harry Potter correct, I mean this is all of HBO. Yeah,
the wire all of a sudden, the last of us.
I mean, the the amount of of the amount of
media that they're about to now have under one app
is one hundred percent a Disney plus Killer.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well that's that's when you compare those numbers. So right now,
if I'm not mistaken, Paramount plus Slash Skuid Dances sitting
at like seventy five million subscribers, Warner Brothers and everything
under it is about one twenty five so you're really
gonna now you're bumping up to two hundred million, which
is right in line with Disney and all that under
one app Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
And don't get me wrong, I mean Disney is the
same thing. Disney has some of the greatest ips that
to ever exists. But now with this merger, they are
there's no question they have the biggest competitor nipping at
their heels with an answer to pretty much everything they have.
Oh you got Star Wars, we got Star Treks. I
(23:48):
oh you've got Marvel, we got DC.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I say they're standing on top of them.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Eh, not just yet. It's close. It's close.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I feel like I feel like it's it's going to
be you start to come more equal, you know what
I mean. And if with your with a pop culture
media like leading the pack first, like you know, indie
things doing well, this brings a new player into the game,
having all these different characters that they can do things with.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Now I wonder if I wonder if DC absorbs Ninja Turtles, Well,
I mean that just becomes a good point, just becomes
a turtle. The Turtles just become a DC book.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see why.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I mean, moving forward, It might not be like a
fan favorite idea, but I could see it being something
that they would absolutely do, because you know, when Disney
acquired Marvel, they talked about not touching any of the
characters and they went right ahead and did.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Look at we've got Predator and Alien books. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
like we're gonna do it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I think we'll get more Star Trek books, I think,
and I think DC will helm a lot like Look
when when Disney got.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Star Wars and Marvel all stay Star Wars Marvel books
came out.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, if they if they pulled that from idw id
w will close because they got they have Star Trek,
they have Turtles.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I don't as sad as that is, and I would
hate to see that happen. I highly doubt Paramount Water
Brothers won't care. They'll just buy them it as an imprint.
You know, you put Warner Brothers in the trademark and
you just keep it as an imprint. I don't think
they like would rechange it all. It would just be
owned by them. And then you start seeing the bleedover. Yeah,
Jason Aaron's book All a Sudden starts getting printed in
(25:20):
the same way that you know Ko is going to
be printed exactly.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, you get, you'll get you'll get crossovers with Ninja
Turtles and Superman.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You already had you already had you already had it
with Batman.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
There's one group of characters. I don't care how many
times you use them in whatever properties. You put an
Ninja Turtles in something, I'm in like.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's it's works.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Like you guys were all like, no more Godzilla crossovers,
and I'm like, well, this is after this last one.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I was like that, I'm getting a little crossover out.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh I don't. I don't blame you.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
But at the same time, no, at the Ninja Turtles
und crossover with Godzilla, shut your shut them out.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
For all this to really happen. There's there's a lot
of things in play.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Oh and I'm sure Disney's gonna put as many wrenches
in the Gears as hugely as possible.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
If it doesn't get to that point. So yeah, I mean,
there are there are other suitors in this, Comcast, Apple,
there's a couple other you know, Sony, potentially Amazon, you
know there there are some but the fact that that
they're all putting in bids that would like to take
some of this property.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Oh I heard, because yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
The James Gunns.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Whole DCU really lies on how well Superman Peacemaker and
potentially the uh super Girl sales, ticket sales, depending on
how far this gets pushed out, whether or not they
end up off loading DC somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Right. But that's the thing. If it if it never
gets to the point where they split the overall company
and you know, sky Dance comes in and purchase this
or attempts to purchase this, there's still a whole bunch
of like hoops that they need to go through from
a regulatory standpoint years away. So but the thing is,
you have Ellison, who is you know, conservative Republican, in
(27:10):
the back pocket of of you know, things that are
going on in DC. The potential for them to just
push this through is pretty substantial because that's really what
they did with There was no no big backlash with
Skydance taking over Paramount, which was also kind of a
big move. They just let it go through, so it
(27:32):
could potentially happen again.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I mean, it's it's a it's a it's a weird
spot to be in because you would I'm not against it,
but I would love to I'd love it to go
through the regular, the normal regulatory process that anything else
would go through.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I would prefer that.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But if it, if it were to then make it
and become a thing, it's not like I'm not signing
up for that service. Yeah, there's no way that's not happening.
I and first off, and that just we were talking
about them offloading things. Anything they offload that has any
kind of substance behind it, Netflix will pick in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean they've wanted their and then cancel in two years. Yeah, no,
I don't think they would cancel that.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I really don't, because they so desperately want a big franchise.
They just don't animes right, but they cancel everything else
because nothing gets the audience and worth paying for it.
I don't blame them, but anime is there so far
their bread and butter, Right, Wednesday is one of their
bread and butter pieces.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Stranger things, but they don't probably canceled next week.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
They don't have that connected universe. Yeah, Wednesday's not got
canceling it, absolute dude. The Wednesday is there's gonna be
a theme park right down the Street from us. It's
gonna have Wednesday in one piece. There's no way red
of one.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well we are. We are going to that opening day
and recording stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
No question.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
With the Netflix Utflix Netflix House, they're indoor theme essentially
at multiple locations around the world.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's gonna have a movie theater, just.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Like we tell it. He's so excited, so much, but
I can't even finish it.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Look, I work in the area. I see them painting
the outside of the building every day.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So it's finishing up.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Buddy.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What else we got?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh, they've got movie movies from where? You got mini golf? Yeah,
mini golf?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Uh got it for where? But like each one? And
I think there's one in New Jersey that's gonna get
Stranger Things something like that. But there, but that there.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Major franchises are getting split up between all of these
different locations. So that way if you visit, like, for example,
if you go to uh six Flags here Great Adventure,
you get the Superman ride where you kind of lean
back it looks like you're flying. But the Superman ride
in California is the one that just shoots you straight
up and the Superman's up there with a camera and
it takes a quick picture of you and then you
fall back down. So it's completely different experiences depending on
(29:58):
what park you go to, and that's kind of of
what they're trying to do this To me, it seems
like their version of Downtown, not Downtown Disney disney Quest.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Do you guys remember Disney Quest.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I love that place.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Disney Quest was awesome, and that's what this seems like.
Netflix's version of Disney Quest with you know, money golf. Oh, yes,
we got mini golf.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
There's gonna be VR stations, tons of food options in there.
Of course, you know shops is still it's gonna be
like David Busters. Yeah, there's also a theater. They said
a movie theater. There's also another theater to do trivia
nights and ticket at events. So it's good, you know,
one shop stop for all.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
There an opening like an opening day date.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yes, October seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Is that a Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
That's a Saturday.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I guess I heard somewhere that Fester is getting show.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
It a Friday.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Uncle Pfester's get a show.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think I saw that.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
It wouldn't surprise me again, there's Wednesday is like a
tent pole. Remember when they remember we used to Harley
Quinn was the fourth pillar of DC. Yeah, she made
she brought in so much money that that's what she
That's what Wednesday is to Netflix.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Now Yeah going, Sorry, tickets go and sale. October's October
seven time.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh okay, fun, Yeah, it'll be.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I mean, I don't I don't know how we got
too much onto that.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
But again, the franchise, the franchises of Netflix aren't that.
I mean, they're great, don't get me wrong, but they're
not like this interconnected universe that everybody else seems to have.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They don't have theirs yet, and they desperately want it.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
You are you suggesting that DC might get dropped by
Warner Brothers.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I'm saying that if DC were to get dropped by
Warner Brothers, I will put a million dollars up that
Netflix is the first big bid you see.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
No, I agree with you on that.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I was just I don't think anyone's letting go of DC.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I do. I mean that rumor has been thrown around
for a while. It's because because Superman didn't do as
well as they would have liked. But the potential of
the universe is there.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Honestly, I think Amazon will throw everything.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh, I didn't even think of Amazon after after.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
The Bond acquisition, and I think they'll go after it hard.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
That's a good point. That's a very good point.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, Moscow new Bond comic in the DC Universe.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Bond movie, like the last comic.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Ooh, that'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yes, all right, we just ran super long on Yes
you till topics.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Hey we get full show, baby, that's why we're a podcast.
Stills still doing it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And we nailed the tangents.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That's all we do over here.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's it's ten minutes of news and thirty five minutes
of tangents. Don't worry, Hugh, we's got those punchlines.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Does he have the the end of the show in
his back pocket? Oh?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Wow, you're gonna try and throw me onto that?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah you can.
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Uh let's it's Twitter, it's that comic pod. But please
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Sure you're following us everywhere. And yeah, once gonna everywhere.
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