August 21, 2025 • 28 mins
We’re diving into the latest casting rumors for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, including the big buzz around Florence Pugh possibly joining the movie. Plus, we break down some wild plot speculation and talk about what fans can expect from Marvel over the next year or two. There’s a lot happening in the MCU, and we’re here to unpack it all.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bad Comic Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Bent to ye with me is always my wonderful kicks. First,
mister Moscow, hey, kind of kick it. I'm sorry I
talked over you.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And then there's baby Howey, oh doublive, we got twenty minutes,
We got twenty minutes?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Man, new format?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, yes, yes, let's try that one more time.
And then there's mister.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Moscow hey, kind of kick it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yes you can, and Baby Huey, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I starting a timer?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I think Thomas now, Thomas now? All right?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well the new format is underway. Baby, he's got one
under his belt. This is second recording of the week. Yeah,
hopefully this goes well. We'll see, we'll see. But is
it just.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Paid more than for this?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Are you getting paid? Are you getting paid?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's like overtime?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Here, I got some magic minds left over?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ok, here, I got here's payment for you. No, you're
not getting paid. So is it just me or Spider
Man getting a little crazy? Just a little a little crazy?
Because it seems like every other day, some weird announcement
comes out about this movie, and I almost think that
they're just trying to flood rumors to a point where
(01:17):
people don't care about it anymore, because it seems like
so much of the movie is being spoiled and released
day after day after day, and it's exciting, but it
also makes the actual movie itself.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Less.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I don't know what you was saying, mysterious less, I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Know, but they just keep adding and adding and adding.
Today they added, well, there was a rumor and then
there was a confirmed announcement.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well really, I didn't see the confirmed.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well we can get into that. Well, let's lead it
off with what the most important part of this story
is that the big giant rumor right now is that
Florence pew as well white Widow Lena.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Man that her.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Four issue comic grun has earned the name white Widow
across all media. If you haven't read that, definitely read it.
But she's White Widow. That's that's how I see Elena now,
forever and always.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, but rumor has it? Rumor has it? Yeah, I
went she will be in brand New Day alongside her
other Dune co stars.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Now, let's not let's not have everybody jump the gun
on what this actually means, because I can don't it.
Don't don't pew pew it is that what you just said? No,
that's not where I was coming, but thank you. But
I do think that people might take this a little
further than it probably what it probably means. I'm going
(02:44):
to bet that her making an appearance in this movie
is more likely, and that it's probably to bring Spider
Man onto the New Avengers. A'llah, Tony Stark, we you know,
we have money and him Oh thank god. Remember that
one of the most famous Spider Man panels that's from
an Avengers book. I think, yeah, we'll probably get something
along the lines where she's trying to recruit him into
(03:06):
the New Avengers, or maybe he's also getting a phone
call from Falcon at the same time, and then that
shows a little bit more of the rift between the
two Avengers teams. That's probably more of a mid or
a post credit scene than it is actually anything to
do with the movie, because it's just too stacked.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You'll be funny as you do both for the mid
end post where mid is Florence coming to him, and
then post is him with Florence and he gets the
phone call from from Cap.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's funny, that's funny. I thought you were actually gonna
do something else. I thought you were gonna say, do
the mid credit scene have Florence Pew trying to recruit him,
and then the end credit scene have Falcon Cap show
up and try and recruit him.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Or phone them whatever, or phone the phone a friend.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Spider Man doesn't deserve an actual knock on the door.
What you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
He just flies down gous No, no.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That he's and all. Spider Man doesn't look back at
Florence Peer and go, well, I.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Mean, I mean so, I look, I would I would
want to join Sam's Avengers more than I would want
to join the New Avengers. But if Florence Pugh was
the one who was asking me to join, I have.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
A feeling Florence is asking I. I have a feeling I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Going Lena versus Frank.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's not gonna happen, but what a great idea.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Don't don't abody get your hopes up on that, because
that's too good of an idea and it's not going
to happen. I do not think that there's gonna be
a scene between those two. As good as that would be,
it would be incredible, and I just think that. I
don't know who i'd give that to. I don't almost
have to kind of give it to Frank. I think
I think Frank. I think Frank would take it just yeah, well,
(04:52):
I mean she could. Now that's not she's a widow.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
She is a widow.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I mean, look, Natasha was slowing down to Shalla. That's
all I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like Frank would have
a problem there.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm forgetting about that old didn't they like counteract the
serum that was That's for another thing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, but but that was the mind control aspect.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Her training is still her training, and that's really what
makes them special, true clicks. To be honest, Black Widow
should have died like thirty five times in Black Widow. Yeah,
there's no superpowers there, that's just elite training. Yeah, but no,
it's in general that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
All of the casting is exciting.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And it's almost getting to a point where it's hard
to even look at it as a movie. It feels
like they're announcing episodes of a TV show, Like we've
heard Beatles gonna make appearance, we've heard Boomerang's gonna make
an appearance. We now hear scorpions coming back. There's rumor
scorpion turns into venom.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
That's why I'm silent.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, that's what's so weird about this. It's just so
much news.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Like it used to be like scraping websites for a
week to have a couple stories to talk about, and
now they are just it's like a shotgun blast of
news about about I mean, Spider Man now, like all
of them.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think it's to.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Keep it all in the news cycle because once we're
not talking about it, then you know, things like the
Marvels happen, and you know some of the way the
movies kind of went into the dirt.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well that's a good point, are you.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, I guess the question would be is it
a marketing technique out of seeing what worked with say
James Gunn Superman and trying to repeat it, or is
it out of fear now that we're hearing reports that
Supergirl might perform better than Spider Man, does.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I've heard good things.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I've heard multiple.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Times from from multiple sources that they believe that the uh,
the draw of Supergirl is going to outdo Spider Man, which.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
To me is crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The idea that that is even a conversation is wild
when we're talking about a Mount Rushmore or Superhero.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, no, no, the snyderbots will not let that happen.
They will make sure Spider Man beats a James Gunner.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't think I have anything.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, I don't think Supergirl doesn't really touched their world
as much, you.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Know what I mean speaking of I know or short
on time. But there's a new Snyder movie getting ready
to be shot, and it's going to be shot all
on like a camcorder or something. So he's screwing super
super low tech on this. Oh cool, so we'll so
maybe you know that fan base can get behind that movie.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I'll tell you seed, it's it's the downfall of
not the downfall, but it's the byproduct of your own success,
where lower budget and smaller things start becoming just as
exciting as these huge tempole properties because you're so used
to them, and there's so much news that's constantly being
thrown at you about each of these projects that, like
(07:53):
the Good Boy trailer is something I'm super excited for,
even though that's like a low budget horror movie because
it's just unique in something I've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That the whole the dog.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, the whole movie is in the dog's perspective.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I could watch it just because of the dog.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be that's gonna be rough. But apparently
he is phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Wow, that's too.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Let's go back to Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Let's go back to Spider Man because the other crazy
thing and then we kind of touched on this a
little bit was how many people are in this movie?
Like we just got a new what was the casting
and announcement today and something just get.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, straight out of Variety, it was an exclusive Tremelle
Tillman is joining Spider Man brand new day. For those
of you that remember the latest mission Impossible, he was
in opposite Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
He also is in Severance. I'm not familiar with. Don't
know who he plays. I haven't seen a single episode
of that show.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's my it's my favorite watch is my favorite Apple show.
But you have derailed me so much by saying that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The speculation on who he might play is Tombstone.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh, you'd be a cool Tombstone. He is phenomenal in severance.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes, now that I know who he is, he is
so he is not I don't know how what you'd
call him.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He's he's not a good guy. He is the manager
of their floor.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And I'm only look, I haven't finished season two yet,
but as far as where I'm at in the show,
he is just obnoxious in the best way. He is
so good at being just just like you just don't
like him. It's like the worst employee you've ever worked with,
just now with power. That's what he feels like. Yeah,
(09:43):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
He's so good. He's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He really is good. If he is Tombstone, that would
be phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But then didn't we also isn't There also a rumored
none not Sadi's sink, but the other Stranger Things star
that hell's his name that they're saying that it's gonna
be Harry Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Oh yeah, I forget.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And that's what we got a heue for Stranger Things.
I haven't seen it all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Side note on Tilman, like he's been on Marvel's radar
for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Back in February there was a report that he was
in the running to take over the role of Kang.
They're obviously not going in that direction, or maybe they are.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I don't know, man, I don't know. If I would
see him as Kang, it would be great. But yeah,
he could, He'd be great at everything.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
At this point, I'm just so so in love with
Colin de Mingle, especially as as his versions of Osborne.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I would love to see that make its appearance.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
So I still think, and this is for another day,
but I still think they're going to bring back Jonathan
Majors in a year or two.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I think that I think there's secret Wars have him
come back as the Beyonder, because that's always been the
rumors that the Beyonder is a.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Version of Kang.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Key Joe kerry Ye, who's by the way outstanding in
Stranger Things, And I think he.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Would be a great Harry Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So yeah, he definitely looks. Yeah, he definitely works. But
that's what I'm saying. It's just like every week, some
crazy new thing happens about this movie. Like we also
heard in the from Alex Prez and The Cosmic Circus
they did that Q and A that they do all
the time where somebody asked about the fact that there's
all of these people appearing in the in the movie,
(11:24):
all the villains that they are speculating on, and he
talked about how that people were kind of assuming the
leakers were getting it wrong because they were just so
all over the place with boomerang and stuff like, just
some low tier Spider Man villains apparently making an appearance.
But that's because, apparently, according to the cosmic circus here
(11:45):
is that it's going to follow suit with Fantastic Four
and have an opening montage where Peter takes on villains
over the years since No Way Home, and that he
is slowly upgrading his suit after each of the fights
al Omega man As which one of you said that earlier,
but they I think it's a it's an interesting way
(12:07):
to go about it. Definitely, it definitely shows that Spider
Man is the center of the story and that Peter
is the forgotten character, especially if you're opening with apparently
it's supposed to be like a twenty minute montage.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Really, the fact that we know what the first.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Twenty minutes is is crazy. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Remember how we give it away, right, but we used
to complain that the trailer gave too much away. Yeah, right,
and now it's every day something is happening. It's it's
a really crazy time for the movie.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is actually given away. I mean, we don't know. We
know what the characters are that are in this for
the most part, so we have an idea of where
this links to what's going on in the comics, but
we don't know what the story really is.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, and there's also so many rumors about what the
story could be. Yeah, there's just I mean, the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Interesting thing that Alex Perez was talking about in that
that article or me in that interview is that he
doesn't believe that mister Negative is going to play as
pivotaal of.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
A role or even be introduced, where we heard rumor that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
He not only is going to play a huge role,
but he might be the catalyst that sets up a
savage Hulk moving forward, and that that's how his character
will then be presented in Doomsday.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So Disney has been known to misdirect on purpose. Oh yeah,
giving out the false stuff. So some of this stuff
could be.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
False, Yeah, no question, no question. And you and mash
Go's right, they're absolutely doing this to make sure that
we that we stay talking about it, and let's be honest,
I mean, just just looking at the analytics to any
video that's about Spider Man through the roof, so they've
got the world's attention. Every video that's about Spider Man
tends to do well, so much so that you have
(13:51):
all this Avengers news that's dropping at the same time,
and it doesn't hold a candle, which is what's wild
about hearing that Supergirl still might take it at the
box office.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
What does that say about the excitement.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Of the DCU over the fatigue of the MCU, You
know what I mean, Like, there's just because I cannot
put those characters together in my mind and see it
as a like remember and when they did the Marvel
VERUS DC comic crossover from the nineties, the one that
we we grew up on that the older Hulk bat
Man one, but the Spider Man, Spider Man fighting super Boy.
(14:24):
We were like super Boy but of course, like that's
a fair fight, if not more. I mean, I feel
like the Metropolis kid would have would have mopped the
floor with Spider Man if for being honest, but we
still thought that we did and he was kind of
cool out of all of them.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He was the best one out of the Malcolm universe.
Ye really just going all right, dark law, all right,
dark law.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Right. So a lot of it can go back to
the I mean the Marvel methods. So they have the
Marvel method for the movies. Now we don't really know
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
This is against the Marvel method. This is not the
Marvel method. And Marvel method was definitely close sets.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
But no meaning that we know what it's going to
look like, we know how the effects are going to
be done, we know how the characters are going to
interact with each other, we know how all of that
is going to work. But with you know, we have
no idea what Lobo is going to look like. We
have no idea you know even what like if they're
taking a Woman of Tomorrow and they're pulling that off
of the comic, like the artwork and everything, and that
(15:21):
is so much different than a lot of the other
things that we've seen in DC and or Marvel. So
you know, are they going to take that aesthetic and
put it into the film, Because I know that's some
of the stuff that I like the best is when
there's some type of artistic you know, integrity back in
the film.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I think James Gun's approach was always that the creator,
not the creators see me, the director gets to dictate that. Yeah,
he wants all of the films to stand alone as
far as style, stylistically and tonalities.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Meanwhile, it all looks the same on the Marvel end exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, and that goes back to the point I was
trying to make before, which is the amount of leaks
and stories that we're getting is while keeping us tall
talking about it and definitely keeping us theorizing, are they
making the same mistake that that happened with Wanda Vision,
where you're giving people too much time to theorize and
then then we get a new Mephisto out out of
Mister Negatives say, or Savage Hulk or all of these
things that were kind of expecting to happen that if
(16:15):
they don't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We're we're like, well, where the hell was Mephisto? You know,
you gave me a boner joke, what you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So it's an interesting way to go about it, because
while that was an awesome show, it definitely lost viewers
over the fact that they felt as though it didn't
meet their expectations opposed to just enjoy what the story was,
because of the over analytical nature of the fans.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
M right, you go into you you're seeing the rumors
with Mefistofisto, Mephisto, let me get nothing. Soone's like, yeah,
this show.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And I think they leaned into that because they wanted
the marketing of it and they liked the fact that
everybody was talking about it. But I do think that
it kind of takes about it. Sure what everybody was, Yeah,
everybody was the new rock Scars. Dude did at an
apology video, Well.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Hey we were. I remember I sent like a screenshot.
I'm circling there's right here, here here, guys.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
There's there's just so much that we don't know, and
a lot of that can be tied into you know what.
Two weeks ago there were the Sadie sync spot, you know,
spotting her. I'd send you guys a photo with you
know this woman that was clearly part of the production
circled and everybody was saying, this was her, She's on set,
(17:32):
she had like blonde hair. Meanwhile, the whole time she
went straight to London and is over there in the
other you know, half of the production. They're in this
production house over there. That's you know, it's like, I
think forty seven sound stages are all in this complex.
Like the stuff that we're not going to see or
know anything about is being done there, and that's what's
(17:53):
going to keep this still interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I wonder, I wonder how much of the marketing team
was involved in in pre production saying Ooh, let's film
this in New York and make a big deal about.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It Glaska, Alaska.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know. I obviously I am excited. I'm it's
Spider Man, it's you know, that's that's my boy Blue.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's well but right.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
But I'm still like, in my head, I'm like, am
I now more intrigued on the Supergirl because of the
interest in a blossoming a universe opposed to one that's
trying to get me back into the the the you know,
the threshold or of.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
What was fun.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Don't get me wrong, I've been happy with most of Marvel.
I'm not I'm not with you guys know this. I
haven't been as hyper critical as a lot of people
have been on a lot of Phase four. A lot
of face at phase five. I don't think Quantumanium is
that bad of a movie. I don't I don't think.
I don't think The Marvels was that bad.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Of a movie.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think people got actually pretty pretty right. I enjoyed it.
I had a lot of fun that theater.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
There has anything else to say about that? Hit us
up in the comments because I'm sure you want to
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Sure, yeah, let me that's okay. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It had it had a stupid dance number, but past that,
it wasn't the worst movie. And Kamala Khan absolutely carried it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So are you taking stupid pills?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Apparently? Apparently I take them often.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But in general, I don't have issues as much as
I feel like the broader fandom does with how marvel
has treated the IPS, because even She Hulk wasn't the
worst show because to me, I thought it's pretty comic accurate,
and that's kind of what I expected going into it.
If if you're unused to She Hulk, that's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's a bizarre show.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But the way the way I see the du is
just so much like just what Mosco said, we don't
know what Lobo is. We don't know the direction of
the story. We just found out that there's a Superman
saga on the way and that a second Superman esca
movie is happening sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But it's not a super sixty page treatment. Who does that?
That's insane?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And it's not even Superman too, We like, we don't
know what it is, but it's Superman related, which is
I'm so much more intrigued on and I feel as
though the constant hammering of so and.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So is going to be in the movie. So and
so is going to be in the movie. This scene
is happening.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We saw them at a tank, Like all of this
is getting to a point where you're killing the intrigue
on what it hits theaters. I like if they like, say,
both movies open, come out opening weekend, which one do
you see Thursday night?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This is all a dopamine hit thing. They just keep
giving us, you know, something every week every week, just
to keep every day every day. Yeah, just to keep
us a little more interested.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But that the problem is off, that'll yeah, it'll run drying.
It's a little too soon I think for this, because.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Again, just think about when X X men not age
of apocalyps Yeah, age of Apocalypse? When what the hell
when they showed WEAPONEX for the first time, Remember they
showed his claws and we were all like, why would
you why? Like why ruin that moment? That would have
been a great moment in the theater or or even hell,
Spider Man grabbing cap shield. We all lost our minds
in the theater. We have all said that trailers have
(21:15):
been ruining things, you know, all the way back to
you know, to the Terminator and John Connor.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
How we do we do a lot to Spider Man
showing up in that trailer.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, absolutely, absolutely, we wouldn't be here right now, right
That was the reason we all started podcasting in the
first place, was the was the Sony deal. But in general,
it's I fear too much and with people feeling oversaturated
with content from Marvel as is are you are you?
(21:51):
Are you placating those that are very excited about pre
production and stuff like that and oversaturating those who just
want to see the movie. I guess that's the question.
People like us are going to be excited about this
news no matter what. People who are on the fence
who just kind of like the movies, but they are.
The reason they've kind of fallen off from the MCU
is they have to do so much homework for it.
Probably don't like all of this, and maybe I'm wrong.
(22:14):
I mean the views obviously say I'm wrong, Like you
know what I mean, it's everybody's doing it, so there
has to be something more to it. But I just
feel as though that the method behind this is more
self destructive to the long run of the movie by
oversaturating the.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Marketing.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I guess think about the general age of you know,
the people that were watching these movies ten years ago,
so they're all ten fifteen years a little older. So
you know, us, we've been watching this stuff all our lives.
This is what we enjoy these this is it. But
for some of those people, it was just you know,
in the you know, pop culture waves like that. That's
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what everybody was going out and seeing, you know, as
they were in middle school, high school. So now that
they're older, moving into a different part of their life,
some of it, I mean, we have we know people
whose kids have done this, so that could be possibly
where a lot of that is going away. So now
they're trying to capture a newer generation with all these characters,
(23:18):
and it's a little tough to get, you know, their
head wrapped around.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I also think there's a lot that well, do you
remember the original rumor since we went back to Sony's
Spider Man MCU debut, do you remember it's a long
time ago that we heard about this, that the original
plan of Sony was to treat Spider Man similar to
Harry Potter, that they would up the you know how
Harry Potter. What makes Harry Potter interesting is that they
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they up the reading level for each of the books
because you're supposed to grow up, so you were supposed
to get three movies in high school, three movies in college,
three movies out of college, so kids at that point
would be able to grow up in the theater. With Peter,
we're now starting that second trilogy. But because of the
MCU's stagnation, we'll call it that that plan seems to
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be a bit rushed. So while they is, the idea
still seems solid of Peter now moving into college. I mean,
obviously the first three movies were Peter leaving high school
and Peter going to college, so there is some validity
to the rumor.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Now we're in.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
This place, where does Peter get a third trilogy where
he's an adult or does that just become the Miles Show,
you know what I mean? Does that become the Miles
trilogy after that? Which you know I at this point,
let me get a Miles movie, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm come on across the Spider Verse, let's go finish
it up. I want my live action Miles.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I know I can't.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's hard to put my finger on it because I
am always excited to find out more, but a little
part of me is disappointed that I didn't get that
experience in the theater. Honestly, you could have just said
Hull spider Man, and I would have been like, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, Hulks fire Man. Punish her eye was.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You didn't even have to say a Punisher, dude, cause
you imagine how we would lose our mind if Punisher
showed up and none of us realized that was happening. Yeah, dude,
I would have flipped out. You think about all of
the tray, like, because this is what Marvel wants. They
want those the theater reaction videos that nobody does anymore.
They kind of like fake them now, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
They want those back, and they could easily get that
with a moment like Frank Castle showing up in that
movie for the first time and then finding out, oh
my god, he's a mainstay character.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
People would lose their mind. Like, I don't know if
this is.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
A good thing for Marvel moving forward, especially if they're
trying to entice fans back. They're killing these moments before
they happen, which is the ones that go viral and
makes everyone want to go to the theaters four.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Or five times.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Why Fantastic Four got a bad drop second week drop
off because there's not another reason to go see the
movie because the hype's not there. Seeing it with a
crowded theater where everybody's losing their minds over stuff. You
just don't get that experience you did with Superman.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I did. I don't know about you, guys. My favor
went nuts.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
My fear was half dead or half empty, So good
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's that's my prefer that's my preferred movie theater experience
Sunday afternoons.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Tell me in the comments if you guys made it
through this whole thing, because I am very intrigued on
whether or not you think that this is a good
way of going about marketing this movie, or if it's
too much, And at what point does it become too much?
Is it story elements becoming more leaked, because as of
right now, Mashco makes a great point, we don't know
what the story is. We just we see all the
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puzzle pieces but have no clue how they put together.
And it seems like they keep adding puzzle pieces each week.
I mean, how we're supposed to get a whole new
round of chairs for doomsday coming right, so we don't
have the pieces enough for anything. So everybody who's saying
they know what's going on, it's like, I feel like
I love James Gun's response to this kind of stuff,
where he's like, relax, only four people have read the script.
(26:57):
Nobody knows what they're talking about, and that's kind of
how I feel about this.
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That so wish I could show you a couple of
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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We got twenty minutes?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Man, new format?
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And then there's mister.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Moscow hey, kind of kick it?
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I starting a timer?
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well the new format is underway. Baby, he's got one
under his belt. This is second recording of the week. Yeah,
hopefully this goes well. We'll see, we'll see. But is
it just.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Paid more than for this?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
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It's like overtime?
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Here, I got some magic minds left over?
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Ok, here, I got here's payment for you. No, you're
not getting paid. So is it just me or Spider
Man getting a little crazy? Just a little a little crazy?
Because it seems like every other day, some weird announcement
comes out about this movie, and I almost think that
they're just trying to flood rumors to a point where
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people don't care about it anymore, because it seems like
so much of the movie is being spoiled and released
day after day after day, and it's exciting, but it
also makes the actual movie itself.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Less.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I don't know what you was saying, mysterious less, I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Know, but they just keep adding and adding and adding.
Today they added, well, there was a rumor and then
there was a confirmed announcement.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well really, I didn't see the confirmed.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well we can get into that. Well, let's lead it
off with what the most important part of this story
is that the big giant rumor right now is that
Florence pew as well white Widow Lena.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Man that her.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Four issue comic grun has earned the name white Widow
across all media. If you haven't read that, definitely read it.
But she's White Widow. That's that's how I see Elena now,
forever and always.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, but rumor has it? Rumor has it? Yeah, I
went she will be in brand New Day alongside her
other Dune co stars.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Now, let's not let's not have everybody jump the gun
on what this actually means, because I can don't it.
Don't don't pew pew it is that what you just said? No,
that's not where I was coming, but thank you. But
I do think that people might take this a little
further than it probably what it probably means. I'm going
(02:44):
to bet that her making an appearance in this movie
is more likely, and that it's probably to bring Spider
Man onto the New Avengers. A'llah, Tony Stark, we you know,
we have money and him Oh thank god. Remember that
one of the most famous Spider Man panels that's from
an Avengers book. I think, yeah, we'll probably get something
along the lines where she's trying to recruit him into
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the New Avengers, or maybe he's also getting a phone
call from Falcon at the same time, and then that
shows a little bit more of the rift between the
two Avengers teams. That's probably more of a mid or
a post credit scene than it is actually anything to
do with the movie, because it's just too stacked.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You'll be funny as you do both for the mid
end post where mid is Florence coming to him, and
then post is him with Florence and he gets the
phone call from from Cap.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's funny, that's funny. I thought you were actually gonna
do something else. I thought you were gonna say, do
the mid credit scene have Florence Pew trying to recruit him,
and then the end credit scene have Falcon Cap show
up and try and recruit him.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Or phone them whatever, or phone the phone a friend.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Spider Man doesn't deserve an actual knock on the door.
What you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
He just flies down gous No, no.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That he's and all. Spider Man doesn't look back at
Florence Peer and go, well, I.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Mean, I mean so, I look, I would I would
want to join Sam's Avengers more than I would want
to join the New Avengers. But if Florence Pugh was
the one who was asking me to join, I have.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
A feeling Florence is asking I. I have a feeling I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Going Lena versus Frank.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's not gonna happen, but what a great idea.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Don't don't abody get your hopes up on that, because
that's too good of an idea and it's not going
to happen. I do not think that there's gonna be
a scene between those two. As good as that would be,
it would be incredible, and I just think that. I
don't know who i'd give that to. I don't almost
have to kind of give it to Frank. I think
I think Frank. I think Frank would take it just yeah, well,
(04:52):
I mean she could. Now that's not she's a widow.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
She is a widow.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I mean, look, Natasha was slowing down to Shalla. That's
all I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like Frank would have
a problem there.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm forgetting about that old didn't they like counteract the
serum that was That's for another thing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, but but that was the mind control aspect.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Her training is still her training, and that's really what
makes them special, true clicks. To be honest, Black Widow
should have died like thirty five times in Black Widow. Yeah,
there's no superpowers there, that's just elite training. Yeah, but no,
it's in general that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
All of the casting is exciting.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And it's almost getting to a point where it's hard
to even look at it as a movie. It feels
like they're announcing episodes of a TV show, Like we've
heard Beatles gonna make appearance, we've heard Boomerang's gonna make
an appearance. We now hear scorpions coming back. There's rumor
scorpion turns into venom.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
That's why I'm silent.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, that's what's so weird about this. It's just so
much news.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Like it used to be like scraping websites for a
week to have a couple stories to talk about, and
now they are just it's like a shotgun blast of
news about about I mean, Spider Man now, like all
of them.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think it's to.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Keep it all in the news cycle because once we're
not talking about it, then you know, things like the
Marvels happen, and you know some of the way the
movies kind of went into the dirt.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well that's a good point, are you.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, I guess the question would be is it
a marketing technique out of seeing what worked with say
James Gunn Superman and trying to repeat it, or is
it out of fear now that we're hearing reports that
Supergirl might perform better than Spider Man, does.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I've heard good things.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I've heard multiple.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Times from from multiple sources that they believe that the uh,
the draw of Supergirl is going to outdo Spider Man, which.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
To me is crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The idea that that is even a conversation is wild
when we're talking about a Mount Rushmore or Superhero.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, no, no, the snyderbots will not let that happen.
They will make sure Spider Man beats a James Gunner.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't think I have anything.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, I don't think Supergirl doesn't really touched their world
as much, you.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Know what I mean speaking of I know or short
on time. But there's a new Snyder movie getting ready
to be shot, and it's going to be shot all
on like a camcorder or something. So he's screwing super
super low tech on this. Oh cool, so we'll so
maybe you know that fan base can get behind that movie.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I'll tell you seed, it's it's the downfall of
not the downfall, but it's the byproduct of your own success,
where lower budget and smaller things start becoming just as
exciting as these huge tempole properties because you're so used
to them, and there's so much news that's constantly being
thrown at you about each of these projects that, like
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the Good Boy trailer is something I'm super excited for,
even though that's like a low budget horror movie because
it's just unique in something I've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That the whole the dog.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, the whole movie is in the dog's perspective.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I could watch it just because of the dog.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be that's gonna be rough. But apparently
he is phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Wow, that's too.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Let's go back to Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Let's go back to Spider Man because the other crazy
thing and then we kind of touched on this a
little bit was how many people are in this movie?
Like we just got a new what was the casting
and announcement today and something just get.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, straight out of Variety, it was an exclusive Tremelle
Tillman is joining Spider Man brand new day. For those
of you that remember the latest mission Impossible, he was
in opposite Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
He also is in Severance. I'm not familiar with. Don't
know who he plays. I haven't seen a single episode
of that show.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's my it's my favorite watch is my favorite Apple show.
But you have derailed me so much by saying that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The speculation on who he might play is Tombstone.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh, you'd be a cool Tombstone. He is phenomenal in severance.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes, now that I know who he is, he is
so he is not I don't know how what you'd
call him.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He's he's not a good guy. He is the manager
of their floor.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And I'm only look, I haven't finished season two yet,
but as far as where I'm at in the show,
he is just obnoxious in the best way. He is
so good at being just just like you just don't
like him. It's like the worst employee you've ever worked with,
just now with power. That's what he feels like. Yeah,
(09:43):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
He's so good. He's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He really is good. If he is Tombstone, that would
be phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But then didn't we also isn't There also a rumored
none not Sadi's sink, but the other Stranger Things star
that hell's his name that they're saying that it's gonna
be Harry Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Oh yeah, I forget.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And that's what we got a heue for Stranger Things.
I haven't seen it all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Side note on Tilman, like he's been on Marvel's radar
for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Back in February there was a report that he was
in the running to take over the role of Kang.
They're obviously not going in that direction, or maybe they are.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I don't know, man, I don't know. If I would
see him as Kang, it would be great. But yeah,
he could, He'd be great at everything.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
At this point, I'm just so so in love with
Colin de Mingle, especially as as his versions of Osborne.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I would love to see that make its appearance.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
So I still think, and this is for another day,
but I still think they're going to bring back Jonathan
Majors in a year or two.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I think that I think there's secret Wars have him
come back as the Beyonder, because that's always been the
rumors that the Beyonder is a.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Version of Kang.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Key Joe kerry Ye, who's by the way outstanding in
Stranger Things, And I think he.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Would be a great Harry Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So yeah, he definitely looks. Yeah, he definitely works. But
that's what I'm saying. It's just like every week, some
crazy new thing happens about this movie. Like we also
heard in the from Alex Prez and The Cosmic Circus
they did that Q and A that they do all
the time where somebody asked about the fact that there's
all of these people appearing in the in the movie,
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all the villains that they are speculating on, and he
talked about how that people were kind of assuming the
leakers were getting it wrong because they were just so
all over the place with boomerang and stuff like, just
some low tier Spider Man villains apparently making an appearance.
But that's because, apparently, according to the cosmic circus here
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is that it's going to follow suit with Fantastic Four
and have an opening montage where Peter takes on villains
over the years since No Way Home, and that he
is slowly upgrading his suit after each of the fights
al Omega man As which one of you said that earlier,
but they I think it's a it's an interesting way
(12:07):
to go about it. Definitely, it definitely shows that Spider
Man is the center of the story and that Peter
is the forgotten character, especially if you're opening with apparently
it's supposed to be like a twenty minute montage.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Really, the fact that we know what the first.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Twenty minutes is is crazy. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Remember how we give it away, right, but we used
to complain that the trailer gave too much away. Yeah, right,
and now it's every day something is happening. It's it's
a really crazy time for the movie.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is actually given away. I mean, we don't know. We
know what the characters are that are in this for
the most part, so we have an idea of where
this links to what's going on in the comics, but
we don't know what the story really is.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, and there's also so many rumors about what the
story could be. Yeah, there's just I mean, the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Interesting thing that Alex Perez was talking about in that
that article or me in that interview is that he
doesn't believe that mister Negative is going to play as
pivotaal of.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
A role or even be introduced, where we heard rumor that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
He not only is going to play a huge role,
but he might be the catalyst that sets up a
savage Hulk moving forward, and that that's how his character
will then be presented in Doomsday.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So Disney has been known to misdirect on purpose. Oh yeah,
giving out the false stuff. So some of this stuff
could be.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
False, Yeah, no question, no question. And you and mash
Go's right, they're absolutely doing this to make sure that
we that we stay talking about it, and let's be honest,
I mean, just just looking at the analytics to any
video that's about Spider Man through the roof, so they've
got the world's attention. Every video that's about Spider Man
tends to do well, so much so that you have
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all this Avengers news that's dropping at the same time,
and it doesn't hold a candle, which is what's wild
about hearing that Supergirl still might take it at the
box office.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
What does that say about the excitement.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Of the DCU over the fatigue of the MCU, You
know what I mean, Like, there's just because I cannot
put those characters together in my mind and see it
as a like remember and when they did the Marvel
VERUS DC comic crossover from the nineties, the one that
we we grew up on that the older Hulk bat
Man one, but the Spider Man, Spider Man fighting super Boy.
(14:24):
We were like super Boy but of course, like that's
a fair fight, if not more. I mean, I feel
like the Metropolis kid would have would have mopped the
floor with Spider Man if for being honest, but we
still thought that we did and he was kind of
cool out of all of them.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He was the best one out of the Malcolm universe.
Ye really just going all right, dark law, all right,
dark law.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Right. So a lot of it can go back to
the I mean the Marvel methods. So they have the
Marvel method for the movies. Now we don't really know
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
This is against the Marvel method. This is not the
Marvel method. And Marvel method was definitely close sets.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
But no meaning that we know what it's going to
look like, we know how the effects are going to
be done, we know how the characters are going to
interact with each other, we know how all of that
is going to work. But with you know, we have
no idea what Lobo is going to look like. We
have no idea you know even what like if they're
taking a Woman of Tomorrow and they're pulling that off
of the comic, like the artwork and everything, and that
(15:21):
is so much different than a lot of the other
things that we've seen in DC and or Marvel. So
you know, are they going to take that aesthetic and
put it into the film, Because I know that's some
of the stuff that I like the best is when
there's some type of artistic you know, integrity back in
the film.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I think James Gun's approach was always that the creator,
not the creators see me, the director gets to dictate that. Yeah,
he wants all of the films to stand alone as
far as style, stylistically and tonalities.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Meanwhile, it all looks the same on the Marvel end exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, and that goes back to the point I was
trying to make before, which is the amount of leaks
and stories that we're getting is while keeping us tall
talking about it and definitely keeping us theorizing, are they
making the same mistake that that happened with Wanda Vision,
where you're giving people too much time to theorize and
then then we get a new Mephisto out out of
Mister Negatives say, or Savage Hulk or all of these
things that were kind of expecting to happen that if
(16:15):
they don't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We're we're like, well, where the hell was Mephisto? You know,
you gave me a boner joke, what you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So it's an interesting way to go about it, because
while that was an awesome show, it definitely lost viewers
over the fact that they felt as though it didn't
meet their expectations opposed to just enjoy what the story was,
because of the over analytical nature of the fans.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
M right, you go into you you're seeing the rumors
with Mefistofisto, Mephisto, let me get nothing. Soone's like, yeah,
this show.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And I think they leaned into that because they wanted
the marketing of it and they liked the fact that
everybody was talking about it. But I do think that
it kind of takes about it. Sure what everybody was, Yeah,
everybody was the new rock Scars. Dude did at an
apology video, Well.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Hey we were. I remember I sent like a screenshot.
I'm circling there's right here, here here, guys.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
There's there's just so much that we don't know, and
a lot of that can be tied into you know what.
Two weeks ago there were the Sadie sync spot, you know,
spotting her. I'd send you guys a photo with you
know this woman that was clearly part of the production
circled and everybody was saying, this was her, She's on set,
(17:32):
she had like blonde hair. Meanwhile, the whole time she
went straight to London and is over there in the
other you know, half of the production. They're in this
production house over there. That's you know, it's like, I
think forty seven sound stages are all in this complex.
Like the stuff that we're not going to see or
know anything about is being done there, and that's what's
(17:53):
going to keep this still interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I wonder, I wonder how much of the marketing team
was involved in in pre production saying Ooh, let's film
this in New York and make a big deal about.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It Glaska, Alaska.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know. I obviously I am excited. I'm it's
Spider Man, it's you know, that's that's my boy Blue.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's well but right.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
But I'm still like, in my head, I'm like, am
I now more intrigued on the Supergirl because of the
interest in a blossoming a universe opposed to one that's
trying to get me back into the the the you know,
the threshold or of.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
What was fun.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Don't get me wrong, I've been happy with most of Marvel.
I'm not I'm not with you guys know this. I
haven't been as hyper critical as a lot of people
have been on a lot of Phase four. A lot
of face at phase five. I don't think Quantumanium is
that bad of a movie. I don't I don't think.
I don't think The Marvels was that bad.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Of a movie.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think people got actually pretty pretty right. I enjoyed it.
I had a lot of fun that theater.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
There has anything else to say about that? Hit us
up in the comments because I'm sure you want to
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Sure, yeah, let me that's okay. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It had it had a stupid dance number, but past that,
it wasn't the worst movie. And Kamala Khan absolutely carried it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So are you taking stupid pills?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Apparently? Apparently I take them often.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But in general, I don't have issues as much as
I feel like the broader fandom does with how marvel
has treated the IPS, because even She Hulk wasn't the
worst show because to me, I thought it's pretty comic accurate,
and that's kind of what I expected going into it.
If if you're unused to She Hulk, that's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's a bizarre show.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But the way the way I see the du is
just so much like just what Mosco said, we don't
know what Lobo is. We don't know the direction of
the story. We just found out that there's a Superman
saga on the way and that a second Superman esca
movie is happening sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But it's not a super sixty page treatment. Who does that?
That's insane?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And it's not even Superman too, We like, we don't
know what it is, but it's Superman related, which is
I'm so much more intrigued on and I feel as
though the constant hammering of so and.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So is going to be in the movie. So and
so is going to be in the movie. This scene
is happening.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We saw them at a tank, Like all of this
is getting to a point where you're killing the intrigue
on what it hits theaters. I like if they like, say,
both movies open, come out opening weekend, which one do
you see Thursday night?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This is all a dopamine hit thing. They just keep
giving us, you know, something every week every week, just
to keep every day every day. Yeah, just to keep
us a little more interested.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But that the problem is off, that'll yeah, it'll run drying.
It's a little too soon I think for this, because.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Again, just think about when X X men not age
of apocalyps Yeah, age of Apocalypse? When what the hell
when they showed WEAPONEX for the first time, Remember they
showed his claws and we were all like, why would
you why? Like why ruin that moment? That would have
been a great moment in the theater or or even hell,
Spider Man grabbing cap shield. We all lost our minds
in the theater. We have all said that trailers have
(21:15):
been ruining things, you know, all the way back to
you know, to the Terminator and John Connor.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
How we do we do a lot to Spider Man
showing up in that trailer.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, absolutely, absolutely, we wouldn't be here right now, right
That was the reason we all started podcasting in the
first place, was the was the Sony deal. But in general,
it's I fear too much and with people feeling oversaturated
with content from Marvel as is are you are you?
(21:51):
Are you placating those that are very excited about pre
production and stuff like that and oversaturating those who just
want to see the movie. I guess that's the question.
People like us are going to be excited about this
news no matter what. People who are on the fence
who just kind of like the movies, but they are.
The reason they've kind of fallen off from the MCU
is they have to do so much homework for it.
Probably don't like all of this, and maybe I'm wrong.
(22:14):
I mean the views obviously say I'm wrong, Like you
know what I mean, it's everybody's doing it, so there
has to be something more to it. But I just
feel as though that the method behind this is more
self destructive to the long run of the movie by
oversaturating the.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Marketing.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I guess think about the general age of you know,
the people that were watching these movies ten years ago,
so they're all ten fifteen years a little older. So
you know, us, we've been watching this stuff all our lives.
This is what we enjoy these this is it. But
for some of those people, it was just you know,
in the you know, pop culture waves like that. That's
(22:55):
what everybody was going out and seeing, you know, as
they were in middle school, high school. So now that
they're older, moving into a different part of their life,
some of it, I mean, we have we know people
whose kids have done this, so that could be possibly
where a lot of that is going away. So now
they're trying to capture a newer generation with all these characters,
(23:18):
and it's a little tough to get, you know, their
head wrapped around.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I also think there's a lot that well, do you
remember the original rumor since we went back to Sony's
Spider Man MCU debut, do you remember it's a long
time ago that we heard about this, that the original
plan of Sony was to treat Spider Man similar to
Harry Potter, that they would up the you know how
Harry Potter. What makes Harry Potter interesting is that they
(23:43):
they up the reading level for each of the books
because you're supposed to grow up, so you were supposed
to get three movies in high school, three movies in college,
three movies out of college, so kids at that point
would be able to grow up in the theater. With Peter,
we're now starting that second trilogy. But because of the
MCU's stagnation, we'll call it that that plan seems to
(24:06):
be a bit rushed. So while they is, the idea
still seems solid of Peter now moving into college. I mean,
obviously the first three movies were Peter leaving high school
and Peter going to college, so there is some validity
to the rumor.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Now we're in.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
This place, where does Peter get a third trilogy where
he's an adult or does that just become the Miles Show,
you know what I mean? Does that become the Miles
trilogy after that? Which you know I at this point,
let me get a Miles movie, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm come on across the Spider Verse, let's go finish
it up. I want my live action Miles.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I know I can't.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's hard to put my finger on it because I
am always excited to find out more, but a little
part of me is disappointed that I didn't get that
experience in the theater. Honestly, you could have just said
Hull spider Man, and I would have been like, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, Hulks fire Man. Punish her eye was.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You didn't even have to say a Punisher, dude, cause
you imagine how we would lose our mind if Punisher
showed up and none of us realized that was happening. Yeah, dude,
I would have flipped out. You think about all of
the tray, like, because this is what Marvel wants. They
want those the theater reaction videos that nobody does anymore.
They kind of like fake them now, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
They want those back, and they could easily get that
with a moment like Frank Castle showing up in that
movie for the first time and then finding out, oh
my god, he's a mainstay character.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
People would lose their mind. Like, I don't know if
this is.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
A good thing for Marvel moving forward, especially if they're
trying to entice fans back. They're killing these moments before
they happen, which is the ones that go viral and
makes everyone want to go to the theaters four.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Or five times.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Why Fantastic Four got a bad drop second week drop
off because there's not another reason to go see the
movie because the hype's not there. Seeing it with a
crowded theater where everybody's losing their minds over stuff. You
just don't get that experience you did with Superman.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I did. I don't know about you, guys. My favor
went nuts.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
My fear was half dead or half empty, So good
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's that's my prefer that's my preferred movie theater experience
Sunday afternoons.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Tell me in the comments if you guys made it
through this whole thing, because I am very intrigued on
whether or not you think that this is a good
way of going about marketing this movie, or if it's
too much, And at what point does it become too much?
Is it story elements becoming more leaked, because as of
right now, Mashco makes a great point, we don't know
what the story is. We just we see all the
(26:35):
puzzle pieces but have no clue how they put together.
And it seems like they keep adding puzzle pieces each week.
I mean, how we're supposed to get a whole new
round of chairs for doomsday coming right, so we don't
have the pieces enough for anything. So everybody who's saying
they know what's going on, it's like, I feel like
I love James Gun's response to this kind of stuff,
where he's like, relax, only four people have read the script.
(26:57):
Nobody knows what they're talking about, and that's kind of
how I feel about this.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
One of them was not Zoe Kravitz. For another day.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That's for another day, all right, Well, you can find
the show at that kind of podcast everywhere a lot.
It's that kind of podcast your social media choice. Are
we doing the phone? Goodbye? Now?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, always all right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You you can find the show that kind of podcast
everywhere a lot is that kind of podcast. To your
social media choice, leict, it's Twitter slash x, which is
that comic pop. But again, that com of podcast is
the best place to go. Uh yeah, I hope you
liked this format. I really appreciate this. I'm gonna go
read Batman Absolute Batman number eleven now because I'm from
(27:38):
everybody that this is the book of the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That so wish I could show you a couple of
these panels.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
No time, so close. I'm so close. I'm only halfway,
only halfway through. All right, Well, I'll see you later
this week, gentlemen. Yep, deuces Smash said, like button.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Scru don't forget we are a podcasts you can catches
any day.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
That plan
Speaker 4 (28:13):
M hm
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