September 19, 2025 • 28 mins
The Merc with a Mouth meets the Dark Knight! In this episode, we dive into Deadpool/Batman #1, the brand-new crossover comic that’s as wild as it sounds. We break down the story, the art, and all the chaotic moments you’d expect when Wade Wilson crashes into Gotham City. From Deadpool’s meta madness to Batman’s no-nonsense detective work, we share our reactions, highlights, and whether this unlikely team-up actually works.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bad comic podcaster.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's September seventeenth, and it's a very important day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And why is that?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Because every once in a while, peanut butter meets jelly,
you know what I mean, spaghetti meets meatballs. And they're
monumentous occasions because the world can come together and appreciate
things that have been just divided by unnecessary walls for
so long to be brought together in such a spectacular
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way as Deadpool Batman number one. I don't care if
nobody else is here. It's Menty and it's Huey. And
the only reason that it's Menty and Huey is that
nobody else wanted to jump on the day that this
thing came out.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But god damn it, we're gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
They're all too busy, apparently, apparently with lives and stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But for real, though, let's jump into the meat of this.
Because a lot of really good books came out, but
I don't care. The only one I really want to.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Talk about right now is this. And I'm not kidding.
This is a momentous occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
People kind of were kind of mocking the idea of
doing this kind of a crossover again because it just
seems like a cash grab.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
But remember this happened once.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What in the early eighties, right was it eighty early eighties,
which and then that was in the nineties and then nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It was. They did a lot in the nineties, like
I have a spider Man Batman book. It was like
a one shot from like only nineties, like they.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Created a character specifically for it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Not only did that character the name axis Axis is
for anybody who's.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Not aware what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We had there was a Marvel DC crossover that had
Spider Man fighting Superman.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Ridiculous book.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Then you had Hulk and Batman. It was a lot
of ridiculous things happen. That's how Venom beats Spider Man
or excoose me Venom beats Superman at one point, which
is a lot of people will argue why Superman will
lose in so many situations, which is a weird one
because we all just want to ignore.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But then in the nineties they wanted to do it again,
but they made it a much bigger deal where you
could call in and vote or mail in and vote
to find out who would actually win. A bunch of
these fights but they created a character together that is
actually owned by both companies named axis An Access. It
has the ability to travel between the two universes, but
his goal is to keep them separated because the two
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brothers that control the Marvel.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Side, who looks like giant like mech warriors, there's one red.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One and one blue one, and if they get if
they merge or get too close together, then supposedly everything
is destroyed. But what really happened is it created the
Amalgam universe, which is an amalgamation of DC and Marvel characters,
and YadA, YadA, YadA, they were great. Yeah, one of
those characters is a new version of those characters is
actually in this book. So I do want to talk
about that. But again, nothing has happened since you know
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what I mean, like twenty over thirty years? Like how
many years the last crossover? Yeah, DC, at least at
least twenty seven years? Yes, seventeen ninety eight, Maybe, I
guess you do, Hughey stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'll just keep talking. I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But while Hughey's looking that up to make sure I
got my dates right, ninety six okay, so even longer,
even longer. So yeah, about thirty years since any kind
of a legitimate crossover between these companies, and this was
announced and it just did not feel right, you know
what I mean, Like they were like Deadpool Batman, You're
like Deadpool Batman. Like, don't get me wrong, I want
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to see it, I want to read it. But that's
not the I think.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's because a lot of fans try and put them together.
I don't know why. Like I was hearing a lot
of people talk about like, oh, I've been waiting for this, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Who would wait? They want?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm glad, but it's still a bizarre and then and
to be honest, the books full of bizarre parings.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And I say that in the best way because while yes.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It felt like it was going to be a cash crab,
after reading it it is, but in the best way possible,
like it's done beautifully and lazily at the same time.
And I don't again, I don't mean that as a
bad thing. Like here here's here's a time where it
doesn't work for me. When Godzilla is trashing this Spider
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Godzillaver Spider Man or Godzillaver's thword, it was just like,
now he's got the bower Cosmic, those just feel like
blatant cash crabs and it's just for a flashy sash
splash page.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And it's nothing of merit.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean, at least the DC ones with Godzilla
actually had a story.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, Like I'm still reading those.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm actually gonna read finish reading that Godzilla Kills the
Marvel Universe, because that does have a story to it,
but the other one's not so much. But Deppool Batman
did a really good job of keeping it a fun,
entertaining story but not getting bogged down in the weeds
of how it does not explain much and when it does,
it hand waves the crap out of it. So I'm
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gonna get well, spoiler alert, that's all I need it,
big spoiler alert at this point forward. You've been warned.
You know that I appreciate and I like the book.
There's a bunch of other stories in here.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Hueye you liked the book.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So you know we like Now we're gonna get to
spoiler territory and if you want to wait, wait, but
if not, here we go. All right, So Deadpool Batman
doesn't really try to explain how the hell Deadpool is
in Gotham. It says the Joker gets them because of
the cosmic treadmill and reverse flash just was just hand wavy.
But you know what I need, I don't care. That's
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all I need, right, I really just wanted to see
how the two of them would interact, and I was
scared that it was just going to be a stupid fight,
Like I thought it was just gonna be like, you know,
they fight for a couple pages, then they team up
and then it's over and then that's not I mean
it is, but it is not what happened, because I
do think that the writer, zeb Wells did a really
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good job of keeping enough good little twists and turns
in there to make it fun. Like there was a
lot of backstabbing and a lot of betrayal, which you'd expect,
but he did a good job of capturing both characters tones,
and he did a good job of introducing someone like
the Joker into the story while still keeping it feeling
like it had weight, like the Joker's plan and the
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way that he explained it to Batman, how it's going
to be like the the Opus, It's gonna be like
the the the Cherry on top of all of his
dastardly deeds.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was the biggest thing he could think of, and
it really was.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was like, Batman, kill yourself or let everyone in
Gotham die, which normally would be a hell of a
decision for him to make. But Dedpoole just hit the
button and it was like, Buddy, it was so good.
He just smacked the button. It was over, and everyone
was just kind of like, well that was anticlimactic. Okay,
he blew up, but he came back exactly like you'd
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expect him to. But I do like the So the
premise just to just to recap for anybody who uh whoever,
anyone who read it, or anyone who doesn't care to
read it, I still strongly urge you to go read it.
But a quick recap app is that Bruce quite literally
gets Deadpool crashing through his windows as we find out
that he's been brought to Gotham to hunt down Batman.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Which he Deadpool knows everything, so I'm actually a little
shocked he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
He doesn't know about the DC universe. He knows he's
in a comic book.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And he could probably take himself out of the comic
and figure out Batman is Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, it's not that he could take himself out of
the comic. He can, I mean, like recognize that he
is a part of a creative process more than he
is himself.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
He is what the writer wants him to be, and
he's he's in on the joke. But you can also
argue so as the joker. I mean, there is a
great joker book where he quite literally looks at the
audience that says, I'm doing all this for you. I
wish I could remember that, because the art in that
is is awesome, but if anybody can think of it,
and it exists throwing the comments but the So Batman
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crashes into Bruce Wayne's mansion because he thinks that Bruce Wayne,
being a billionaire, probably needs some people off and you
might as want to make a buck or two while
he's whiting and looking for Batman.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So that's how he ends up running into Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And when he sees the bat signal, he loves the
idea of a guy running around in a batsuit and
thinks it's hysterical. So he goes over, finds finds Gordon
and one of the best back and forth with Batman.
I think I the whole like, let's call it a draw.
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You were almost out match. He's like, I was never
out matched.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Ye the way the humor of.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Deadpool just keeps saying, like how even the two of
them are and Batman just every single time Batman's going it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Was never an issue. I was never in any danger.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He's like, I brought toys, so did. I just hits
him with some batter angs.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But he feels very much like Batman, and Wade feels
very much like Wade. I think they did a really
good job of balancing the two characters, especially if someone
is chaotic in the world of the Joker. I thought
was really cool how they tied the two of them
in like that. I love that he that Batman played
off the jokers insecurities of their relationship to get Deadpool
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out of the picture, because all he did was essentially
say Deadpoo's a better Joker than Joker, and Joker could
not handle that. That was that was the last straw,
and he was like, I think I will devote all
my time to fighting Deadpool, and Joker wasn't having that.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm just Joker didn't try to kill him at that point,
like kill Deadpool.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, but he kind of did.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
He thought he gave him enough joker talks and that
would mean something. But all it did was give way
to smile. It didn't seem like it did anything to him.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It just perked him up and made him happy.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Just wear off right, just smile.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It just no issues whatsoever with it. And I love that.
I love the quippiness of Deadpool. I thought he did
a really good job because he can be really one
note and the jokes can get where it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Can can wear on you. But I think that the
two of them together as a nice juxtaposition. Uh. And
I saw some.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
People complain about the great Copula did the art for this,
and I heard some people complain that they thought it
was a little flat because Deadpool doesn't really work in
the world of Gotham, to which I don't agree at all.
If anything, I think it made Deadpool pop off of
the page because he is such a fish out of water.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
He he the.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Red in his costume pops out from the backdrop of
most these pages.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean here, yeah, he pops. So every other color
is flat.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Color, every yeah, every color is muted. Like I said,
like this page right here is just Batman and Deadpool.
It's dark and then bright red. That's what you would.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Expect to see.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And when he is sitting with when he's like with
the Joker, I mean, he fits right in.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And he's the only red in a panel more or less.
I mean no, I yeah, I agree. They did what
they did to make the red pop on it.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And I love that every book ended with a is
it over question mark? Did it end? Question mark? Which
is really I want to get into at the end.
I want to talk a little bit more about that
at the end. But let's find out November.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Let's keep moving through this and let's the next thing
that we got is which I.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Didn't expect us to be a multiple stories and this
I thought it was just dead pulling Batman.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I knew that we were getting multiple stories, but I
didn't necessarily know it was all going to be this
one book. But the next one is Captain American wonder Woman.
It's called The Gun and the Sword, Yes, and that's
Chipsidarski uh And I will say that really an uncomfortable premise,
but a really cool world, I think is the best
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way I can word that. Because it's Captain America. It
doesn't feel right to Cap. In my opinion, it's this
It's an interesting moment because they cherry picked a pretty crazy,
pretty crazy premise to build the story around, which is
Captain America holding Hitler at gunpoint. Well, wonder Woman tries
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to convince him that murdering him is injustice, right, it's
more of just its vengeance and it's the you know,
the normal arguments that you would hear in comic books.
But what was interesting about the story is that you
find out about how each other, each of the characters
influenced each other throughout time, how they became very close,
and how how a world where DC characters and Marvel
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characters were always together, like we saw Crisis on Infinite Earths, right,
we saw we saw panels with with Hulk in the background,
like High five.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And people with the Justice League.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We saw a lot of really cool stuff like yeah,
Cap coming out of him and Superman being there, love that. Yeah,
there was a lot of really cool moments yea Water
Women fighting Galactus. But the premise that you keep going
back to that you almost kind of forget that Hitler's
being held up at gunpoint right now, is is just
such a weird spot in the story. So it even
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opens with I wish he didn't meet me at my
lowest point, which is Steve saying that he is finding
it hard not to end Hitler, which you know, understandable,
but I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, but the.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But I loved her point, which is he did it
because Cap brings up all these horrible things that he did,
and and Diana says, all of those things affected all
of these people, so they all deserve the right to
get justice, So let them go through the courts. Let
him go through the system that he's supposed to go through,
and then of course, you know, he still goes out
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the Hitler way. But the book, the story itself, if
it focused on that more, I probably would have liked
it less. But I'm very intrigued on the world they
built around it, Like I would love to get a
lot more of these kind of in the middle stories
that they're offering.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
That just seemed way more fun than what we were getting.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, when you when you take classic stories and take
a little twist on them to make it look like
it was always there, that's always more intriguing to me.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Could you imagine like redoing like how they redid the
Ultimate Universe. They red redo the Amalgam Universe. But it
quite literally is a world where both parties just exist together,
you know what I mean. So the Justice League and
the Avengers are just teams that are on the planet.
Metropolis is a city with New York, and you know,
they're still in their respective cities, but the actual main
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cities still require.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The Marvel characters. I think that would be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That would be that would actually be awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think ever get that. But Dark Law is cool,
but I think I'd prefer that more. I would much
rather a Wolverine Batman book than a Dark Law book.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Don't get me wrong, I like Dark one both.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
All right, let's move on over to the Fortress of Solitude,
and let's move over to Catch, which was a fun, little, nothing,
throwaway dinky story. It was just a it's a dog
in a shark playing some bar. I mean, it's fun,
but it means nothing. It's a page turner. You're done
in several seconds. All right, Now, let's move over to
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Kevin Smith doing the Green Arrow and Daren Nevil a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yes, I mean love the Green Arrows, referring to him
as Satan.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
This is Kevin smith as best here, very Kevin Smithy, Yes,
the very Kevin Smithy. And I haven't read the Green
Arrow run, but I've seen in other people's reviews of
this that it feels very much like Green Arrow, the
one that he did, like the Kevin smith Green.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Arrow, his style from you know, books he actually worked on.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's another one of the books that I just kind
of wish we had more time now. This one we
did get way more pages than the rest, because now
that we're past these three stories, the rest are only
like three pages of pop. But it's it's almost a
shame that there wasn't more to it. And hopefully maybe
we see maybe you're right in November when we get
Batman Deadpool, if it's a continuation of each of these stories.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Would be kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, look, because the Amalcolm universe did very well
on that first run of books, you know, a couple
months later they went back to it. So if the
Batman Deadpool version of this cell in November.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh, I don't even we will get some one. I
don't even think that's a question. I think this is
a I think they're testing the waters.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think one hundred percent they're testing the waters right here.
I think it just feels too small for what moment this.
Think about the last two times they did this, I
mean there was multiple books, line wide changes. M you
know what I mean, Like, neither company took this as
a small thing.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, it's just Malcolm. They stopped printing, right, both Compani
stopped printing for a month.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Right because there was just so much to do.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I mean, and when they did the Marvel DC crossover,
I mean, how many books were coming at You had
Green Lantern, Silver Surfer. You had Batman spider Man, you
had Batman Punisher, you had Batman Taredevil, you had Avengers
Justice League.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You had which Hawkey is the only member.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, Hawkeye is the only member of both. I forget
what else. There's a bunch regardless. Ye.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
My point is is that was going on at the
same time that we were also getting Marvel verus DC,
Marvel verus DC.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Then DC versus Marvel DC versus Marvel. So it was
a big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
To just be getting this and one other book in
November doesn't feel right. So I think they're testing the water.
I think they're finding out right now how much effort
they should put into the next go with this?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay, you might be right on that. Yeah, makes the
most sense.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
All right, let's move over to aluing and maybe my
favorite story that ran out of nowhere, which was the
Guardians of the Galaxy and the Guardians of Oa. The
Green Lanterns and the Guardians was such a great crossover.
Rocket getting a Green Lantern ring and then immediately getting
kicked out of the Green Lantern core is so good
and it was such a funny little story. But what
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maybe even better is the last panel begged so many
more questions, which is them saying what's parallax? And seeing
hal Jordan with the Infinity Gould on the Marvel Man, God,
do I want more than three or four pages of this?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I want an entire run of that, you.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Know, like, like you just said, Marvel's testing it. So
do you give me more, Tell me more, Marvel, you
give me, give DC, both of you give me more
of that, because that's just too good.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
First, Rocket looking like what's his name, Guy Gardner is
just amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's just amazing. The same type attitude.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's very fitting. The vest is
very fitting.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Let's move move over to Frank Miller's book, which was
old Man Logan.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Versus Yeah versus Dark Knight returns Batman. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
It's only what.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You gotta appreciate the fact that dude has never changed, Like,
you know, a Frank Miller's story and a Frank Miller book.
I mean, he is Frank Miller. You will get exactly
what you think you'll get, and some of that's really cool.
Like I really love the first couple of panels, but yeah,
then it just kind of falls off the rails. I'm
not a big Frank Miller art fan, though I like
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Frank Miller books a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Not a big Frank Miller I love his stories. Yeah,
the artwork is.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
A little rough, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The last one the Amalgam character who logo logo Lobo
and Wolverine mixed. Now, this is cool because Lobo and
Wolverine also fought. And I'm I mean tell you can.
I'm sure people will tell me I'm wrong on the Internet,
but I if I remember correctly, Lobo is the answer
to Wolverine for DC. They wanted it the Wolverine style character,
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and they came up with Lobo, and he's awesome and
one of my favorite DC characters. And I'm not gonna lie,
I liked logo. Dumb name, but I liked logo.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Very dumb name.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But I agree the main beauty.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Himself and the freaking his his cycle at the end here,
Oh these the cycles, My god, my god. That that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, the cycle is incredible. He what was it called too?
It was like the triple X weapon triple X. Yeah,
tell the super Soldier.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, the the weapon triple X.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's the name of the bike.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's so good, so good. This is a win.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Not only is it not only is it a win,
it's one of the few books that's gonna come out
that can shift things up. So many books come out,
they're great, and then we never think about them again.
That the sad truth of comic books is that was amazing,
and then you'll never that'll be the end of it.
You'll it'll just go into a long box somewhere and
that'll be the end.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, and then you'll see it again. You're like, oh,
that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
What was the book that?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What was the last Avengers of Avengers Assembled?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
What was the book where a cap was an old man.
It was like the Last Captain of America story just
came out.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
It was old.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh Twilight, Yeah, Avengers Twilight. The only reason I remember
Avengers Twilight is because it's forgettable. I know that's an oxymoron,
I get it. But it's like the movie Elysium. I
only bring up Elysium to remind people that you can
forget about good movies because Elysium is a fun movie.
But I guarantee you haven't thought about it since I
said the name true what you say, yeah, exactly, exactly, No.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You're absolutely right. Twilight was a really good story, but
I kind of forgot about You're right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And that's most comics. This one has a potential to
change things. So regardless on whether or not you like
the book, regardless on whether or not you think it
deserves more stories, this book and how well it sells,
I have a feeling will change the trajectory of both companies.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
If it does well enough, they.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Will take a pause on certain things and they will
start dumping money into more stuff like this, because if
they make money off.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
This, believe you me, they're kind of want to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
How many times do we get the batman who laughs, Yeah, yeah,
believe you me. Not one company wants to turn down
the amount of money that's associated with something like this.
And the nice thing about just letting the writers and
artists do what they want to do is that neither
of them wanted to disrespect the characters in any which way.
True both all the characters felt represented well by whoever
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took whoever's helming the story did a good job with both.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Now the thing is, if let's just say that this
actually does take off, do you want fleshed out world
building stories or do you want more of.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
These one shots I want? Ooh, that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's a great question because I would probably say I
would want an overarching story like I'm used to in
comics that lead somewhere between a bunch of different line
wide books, because you know, like the Ultimate Universe.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm going to pick up each one of those.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, if they come out with four or five different
books all in the same amalgam universe, I'm buying all
of them to see where it all leads. So there's
no question I would much prefer some kind of an
inner locking story.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But I are.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Funny enough that shit pisses me off with certain books,
like with Spider Verse, did it annoyed the cramp out
of me?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Like is one of the reasons I stop reading Next
One all the time is just because it's like, read
these seventeen books and I no, no, So if it
gets to that degree, no, you know what, No, I
don't even know what the hell I'm talking about. I
would one hundred percent love multiple team ups like this
within a similar universe. I want to see those the
Captain America Wonder Woman world realized.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I was gonna say, what of those stories? If
you got to pick one, would you want like the
Wonder Woman one?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Would you niverse hard to answer?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Where you just want team ups?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Why are you making me pick like this?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
We live in a world of Elseworld's my friend. I
can have my cake and eat it too when it
comes to books. You don't have to put these parameters.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
We can know. Let's live in a better world.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Let's live in a better world where we can have
both a slice of cake to enjoy and one that
just is beautiful to stare at.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We can have the more money.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I mean, hey, if I'm buying all of it. I mean,
it really depends. It really depends. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
That's a hard question to answer. I think if I
had to pick one of them, even though I think
the premise is terrible, is the Captain America Wonder Woman?
Because it gave me glimpses of what a world could
look like in these big moments from both companies with
the other characters present.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is just so fun. So that's probably what I would love.
Give me Infinity Gauntlet if the DC exists, If DC
existed in the Marvel universe, give me Blackest Night. If
Marvel existed in the DC universe, that would be an
interesting thing. I would love an else World style story.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
What if Elseworld's basically.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, what if the Justice League showed up?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
What if the Justice League answered the call instead of
the Avengers. I don't know, man, that could be pretty cool.
That could be pretty cool. And I'll tell you what.
James Gunn now being in charge of over at DC,
and has also said many many times never say never.
So if something like this does does numbers, believe you me,
he's gonna be calling good old Kavy Fage saying.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Maybe that's why they did this because he has made
that comment like ver many times.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Many times he's hey, kembo, I got I got a
proposition for you, pal.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Give me it a Malcolm Universe movie.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, yes, no, Marvel, VERUS DC, maybe Amalgamum. I mean,
like yes, I want access.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then I want maybe three movies, three key fights
in each movie. Uh yeah, and then and then we
can move into maybe some of Malcolm stories afterwards. But no,
I want if we're gonna do that, give me access
and give me the world coming to an end, because
like I love Captain America's fight with Batman.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
See that. You know what, that's where the that's what
Secret Wars is gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It's gonna reshape good too, imagin All right, we're just
getting intouous territory. We're gonna wrap this up now now
that we're just fan casting to uh to insanity levels.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Look, if you haven't had your local comics store because
it is not available digitally.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh well cool, Hey, I'm a universe or sold out
almost all of the covers, did they really?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Some of the covers are amazing. Some of the you
know that the Wolverine Batman one and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mike had Mike had won.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I was like, I felt, yeah, because del coo Batman
got the other one as he should, damn it as
he should.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He advertised the book.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Mike said he might be in couple more covers in,
so I said, I'll take one of those when they
come in.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, that's that. That's the best cover. As much as
I actually are like, I like this cover a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think features picked up the Infinity glautlet one.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
The oh did he really the Infinity cover? So that's
a good cover. They should have done these like grab bags,
like blind bags.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, Batman just a dead a week ago.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And they should do more of it. I just feel Look,
I'm I'm against the idea personally. I don't want that
to happen, but for other companies to make money and
for comics to do better, there's just such a weird
pack opening thing right now.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I have all these blockie figures behind me, transform blockies.
They are blind box things, and I hate that.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I bet you do. But look who just pointed at
all the blockies behind them? Stop.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I buy a whole case and you get your eat
them all.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
See, don't make fun of me when I buy my
spider Man, Magic, the Gathering Collector's Box.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
All right, again we're off the rail, yes we are.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
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But again, that comic podcast the best place to go
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We have been audio forever and now our goal is
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head on over there. Give us the support we need
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us everywhere, and let us know what you thought of
the book, because I think I am intrigued to know
whether or not this book is going to I guess
gonna sell. There's no question. What do people think is
the big point. That's a big question right now, because
I hope it does well. I hope so much it
does well. But let me know, let me know if
it does well. All right, what's going on it?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Alright,
Bad comic podcaster.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's September seventeenth, and it's a very important day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And why is that?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Because every once in a while, peanut butter meets jelly,
you know what I mean, spaghetti meets meatballs. And they're
monumentous occasions because the world can come together and appreciate
things that have been just divided by unnecessary walls for
so long to be brought together in such a spectacular
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way as Deadpool Batman number one. I don't care if
nobody else is here. It's Menty and it's Huey. And
the only reason that it's Menty and Huey is that
nobody else wanted to jump on the day that this
thing came out.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But god damn it, we're gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
They're all too busy, apparently, apparently with lives and stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But for real, though, let's jump into the meat of this.
Because a lot of really good books came out, but
I don't care. The only one I really want to.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Talk about right now is this. And I'm not kidding.
This is a momentous occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
People kind of were kind of mocking the idea of
doing this kind of a crossover again because it just
seems like a cash grab.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
But remember this happened once.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What in the early eighties, right was it eighty early eighties,
which and then that was in the nineties and then nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It was. They did a lot in the nineties, like
I have a spider Man Batman book. It was like
a one shot from like only nineties, like they.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Created a character specifically for it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Not only did that character the name axis Axis is
for anybody who's.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Not aware what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We had there was a Marvel DC crossover that had
Spider Man fighting Superman.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Ridiculous book.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Then you had Hulk and Batman. It was a lot
of ridiculous things happen. That's how Venom beats Spider Man
or excoose me Venom beats Superman at one point, which
is a lot of people will argue why Superman will
lose in so many situations, which is a weird one
because we all just want to ignore.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But then in the nineties they wanted to do it again,
but they made it a much bigger deal where you
could call in and vote or mail in and vote
to find out who would actually win. A bunch of
these fights but they created a character together that is
actually owned by both companies named axis An Access. It
has the ability to travel between the two universes, but
his goal is to keep them separated because the two
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brothers that control the Marvel.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Side, who looks like giant like mech warriors, there's one red.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One and one blue one, and if they get if
they merge or get too close together, then supposedly everything
is destroyed. But what really happened is it created the
Amalgam universe, which is an amalgamation of DC and Marvel characters,
and YadA, YadA, YadA, they were great. Yeah, one of
those characters is a new version of those characters is
actually in this book. So I do want to talk
about that. But again, nothing has happened since you know
(02:48):
what I mean, like twenty over thirty years? Like how
many years the last crossover? Yeah, DC, at least at
least twenty seven years? Yes, seventeen ninety eight, Maybe, I
guess you do, Hughey stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'll just keep talking. I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But while Hughey's looking that up to make sure I
got my dates right, ninety six okay, so even longer,
even longer. So yeah, about thirty years since any kind
of a legitimate crossover between these companies, and this was
announced and it just did not feel right, you know
what I mean, Like they were like Deadpool Batman, You're
like Deadpool Batman. Like, don't get me wrong, I want
(03:28):
to see it, I want to read it. But that's
not the I think.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's because a lot of fans try and put them together.
I don't know why. Like I was hearing a lot
of people talk about like, oh, I've been waiting for this, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Who would wait? They want?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm glad, but it's still a bizarre and then and
to be honest, the books full of bizarre parings.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And I say that in the best way because while yes.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It felt like it was going to be a cash crab,
after reading it it is, but in the best way possible,
like it's done beautifully and lazily at the same time.
And I don't again, I don't mean that as a
bad thing. Like here here's here's a time where it
doesn't work for me. When Godzilla is trashing this Spider
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Godzillaver Spider Man or Godzillaver's thword, it was just like,
now he's got the bower Cosmic, those just feel like
blatant cash crabs and it's just for a flashy sash
splash page.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And it's nothing of merit.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean, at least the DC ones with Godzilla
actually had a story.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, Like I'm still reading those.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm actually gonna read finish reading that Godzilla Kills the
Marvel Universe, because that does have a story to it,
but the other one's not so much. But Deppool Batman
did a really good job of keeping it a fun,
entertaining story but not getting bogged down in the weeds
of how it does not explain much and when it does,
it hand waves the crap out of it. So I'm
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gonna get well, spoiler alert, that's all I need it,
big spoiler alert at this point forward. You've been warned.
You know that I appreciate and I like the book.
There's a bunch of other stories in here.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Hueye you liked the book.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So you know we like Now we're gonna get to
spoiler territory and if you want to wait, wait, but
if not, here we go. All right, So Deadpool Batman
doesn't really try to explain how the hell Deadpool is
in Gotham. It says the Joker gets them because of
the cosmic treadmill and reverse flash just was just hand wavy.
But you know what I need, I don't care. That's
(05:32):
all I need, right, I really just wanted to see
how the two of them would interact, and I was
scared that it was just going to be a stupid fight,
Like I thought it was just gonna be like, you know,
they fight for a couple pages, then they team up
and then it's over and then that's not I mean
it is, but it is not what happened, because I
do think that the writer, zeb Wells did a really
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good job of keeping enough good little twists and turns
in there to make it fun. Like there was a
lot of backstabbing and a lot of betrayal, which you'd expect,
but he did a good job of capturing both characters tones,
and he did a good job of introducing someone like
the Joker into the story while still keeping it feeling
like it had weight, like the Joker's plan and the
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way that he explained it to Batman, how it's going
to be like the the Opus, It's gonna be like
the the the Cherry on top of all of his
dastardly deeds.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was the biggest thing he could think of, and
it really was.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was like, Batman, kill yourself or let everyone in
Gotham die, which normally would be a hell of a
decision for him to make. But Dedpoole just hit the
button and it was like, Buddy, it was so good.
He just smacked the button. It was over, and everyone
was just kind of like, well that was anticlimactic. Okay,
he blew up, but he came back exactly like you'd
(06:48):
expect him to. But I do like the So the
premise just to just to recap for anybody who uh whoever,
anyone who read it, or anyone who doesn't care to
read it, I still strongly urge you to go read it.
But a quick recap app is that Bruce quite literally
gets Deadpool crashing through his windows as we find out
that he's been brought to Gotham to hunt down Batman.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Which he Deadpool knows everything, so I'm actually a little
shocked he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
He doesn't know about the DC universe. He knows he's
in a comic book.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And he could probably take himself out of the comic
and figure out Batman is Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, it's not that he could take himself out of
the comic. He can, I mean, like recognize that he
is a part of a creative process more than he
is himself.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
He is what the writer wants him to be, and
he's he's in on the joke. But you can also
argue so as the joker. I mean, there is a
great joker book where he quite literally looks at the
audience that says, I'm doing all this for you. I
wish I could remember that, because the art in that
is is awesome, but if anybody can think of it,
and it exists throwing the comments but the So Batman
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crashes into Bruce Wayne's mansion because he thinks that Bruce Wayne,
being a billionaire, probably needs some people off and you
might as want to make a buck or two while
he's whiting and looking for Batman.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So that's how he ends up running into Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And when he sees the bat signal, he loves the
idea of a guy running around in a batsuit and
thinks it's hysterical. So he goes over, finds finds Gordon
and one of the best back and forth with Batman.
I think I the whole like, let's call it a draw.
(08:31):
You were almost out match. He's like, I was never
out matched.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Ye the way the humor of.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Deadpool just keeps saying, like how even the two of
them are and Batman just every single time Batman's going it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Was never an issue. I was never in any danger.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He's like, I brought toys, so did. I just hits
him with some batter angs.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But he feels very much like Batman, and Wade feels
very much like Wade. I think they did a really
good job of balancing the two characters, especially if someone
is chaotic in the world of the Joker. I thought
was really cool how they tied the two of them
in like that. I love that he that Batman played
off the jokers insecurities of their relationship to get Deadpool
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out of the picture, because all he did was essentially
say Deadpoo's a better Joker than Joker, and Joker could
not handle that. That was that was the last straw,
and he was like, I think I will devote all
my time to fighting Deadpool, and Joker wasn't having that.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm just Joker didn't try to kill him at that point,
like kill Deadpool.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, but he kind of did.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
He thought he gave him enough joker talks and that
would mean something. But all it did was give way
to smile. It didn't seem like it did anything to him.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It just perked him up and made him happy.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Just wear off right, just smile.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It just no issues whatsoever with it. And I love that.
I love the quippiness of Deadpool. I thought he did
a really good job because he can be really one
note and the jokes can get where it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Can can wear on you. But I think that the
two of them together as a nice juxtaposition. Uh. And
I saw some.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
People complain about the great Copula did the art for this,
and I heard some people complain that they thought it
was a little flat because Deadpool doesn't really work in
the world of Gotham, to which I don't agree at all.
If anything, I think it made Deadpool pop off of
the page because he is such a fish out of water.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
He he the.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Red in his costume pops out from the backdrop of
most these pages.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean here, yeah, he pops. So every other color
is flat.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Color, every yeah, every color is muted. Like I said,
like this page right here is just Batman and Deadpool.
It's dark and then bright red. That's what you would.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Expect to see.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And when he is sitting with when he's like with
the Joker, I mean, he fits right in.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And he's the only red in a panel more or less.
I mean no, I yeah, I agree. They did what
they did to make the red pop on it.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And I love that every book ended with a is
it over question mark? Did it end? Question mark? Which
is really I want to get into at the end.
I want to talk a little bit more about that
at the end. But let's find out November.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Let's keep moving through this and let's the next thing
that we got is which I.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Didn't expect us to be a multiple stories and this
I thought it was just dead pulling Batman.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I knew that we were getting multiple stories, but I
didn't necessarily know it was all going to be this
one book. But the next one is Captain American wonder Woman.
It's called The Gun and the Sword, Yes, and that's
Chipsidarski uh And I will say that really an uncomfortable premise,
but a really cool world, I think is the best
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way I can word that. Because it's Captain America. It
doesn't feel right to Cap. In my opinion, it's this
It's an interesting moment because they cherry picked a pretty crazy,
pretty crazy premise to build the story around, which is
Captain America holding Hitler at gunpoint. Well, wonder Woman tries
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to convince him that murdering him is injustice, right, it's
more of just its vengeance and it's the you know,
the normal arguments that you would hear in comic books.
But what was interesting about the story is that you
find out about how each other, each of the characters
influenced each other throughout time, how they became very close,
and how how a world where DC characters and Marvel
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characters were always together, like we saw Crisis on Infinite Earths, right,
we saw we saw panels with with Hulk in the background,
like High five.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And people with the Justice League.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We saw a lot of really cool stuff like yeah,
Cap coming out of him and Superman being there, love that. Yeah,
there was a lot of really cool moments yea Water
Women fighting Galactus. But the premise that you keep going
back to that you almost kind of forget that Hitler's
being held up at gunpoint right now, is is just
such a weird spot in the story. So it even
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opens with I wish he didn't meet me at my
lowest point, which is Steve saying that he is finding
it hard not to end Hitler, which you know, understandable,
but I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, but the.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But I loved her point, which is he did it
because Cap brings up all these horrible things that he did,
and and Diana says, all of those things affected all
of these people, so they all deserve the right to
get justice, So let them go through the courts. Let
him go through the system that he's supposed to go through,
and then of course, you know, he still goes out
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the Hitler way. But the book, the story itself, if
it focused on that more, I probably would have liked
it less. But I'm very intrigued on the world they
built around it, Like I would love to get a
lot more of these kind of in the middle stories
that they're offering.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
That just seemed way more fun than what we were getting.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, when you when you take classic stories and take
a little twist on them to make it look like
it was always there, that's always more intriguing to me.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Could you imagine like redoing like how they redid the
Ultimate Universe. They red redo the Amalgam Universe. But it
quite literally is a world where both parties just exist together,
you know what I mean. So the Justice League and
the Avengers are just teams that are on the planet.
Metropolis is a city with New York, and you know,
they're still in their respective cities, but the actual main
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cities still require.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The Marvel characters. I think that would be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That would be that would actually be awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think ever get that. But Dark Law is cool,
but I think I'd prefer that more. I would much
rather a Wolverine Batman book than a Dark Law book.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Don't get me wrong, I like Dark one both.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
All right, let's move on over to the Fortress of Solitude,
and let's move over to Catch, which was a fun, little, nothing,
throwaway dinky story. It was just a it's a dog
in a shark playing some bar. I mean, it's fun,
but it means nothing. It's a page turner. You're done
in several seconds. All right, Now, let's move over to
(14:58):
Kevin Smith doing the Green Arrow and Daren Nevil a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yes, I mean love the Green Arrows, referring to him
as Satan.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
This is Kevin smith as best here, very Kevin Smithy, Yes,
the very Kevin Smithy. And I haven't read the Green
Arrow run, but I've seen in other people's reviews of
this that it feels very much like Green Arrow, the
one that he did, like the Kevin smith Green.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Arrow, his style from you know, books he actually worked on.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's another one of the books that I just kind
of wish we had more time now. This one we
did get way more pages than the rest, because now
that we're past these three stories, the rest are only
like three pages of pop. But it's it's almost a
shame that there wasn't more to it. And hopefully maybe
we see maybe you're right in November when we get
Batman Deadpool, if it's a continuation of each of these stories.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Would be kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, look, because the Amalcolm universe did very well
on that first run of books, you know, a couple
months later they went back to it. So if the
Batman Deadpool version of this cell in November.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh, I don't even we will get some one. I
don't even think that's a question. I think this is
a I think they're testing the waters.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think one hundred percent they're testing the waters right here.
I think it just feels too small for what moment this.
Think about the last two times they did this, I
mean there was multiple books, line wide changes. M you
know what I mean, Like, neither company took this as
a small thing.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, it's just Malcolm. They stopped printing, right, both Compani
stopped printing for a month.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Right because there was just so much to do.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I mean, and when they did the Marvel DC crossover,
I mean, how many books were coming at You had
Green Lantern, Silver Surfer. You had Batman spider Man, you
had Batman Punisher, you had Batman Taredevil, you had Avengers
Justice League.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You had which Hawkey is the only member.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, Hawkeye is the only member of both. I forget
what else. There's a bunch regardless. Ye.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
My point is is that was going on at the
same time that we were also getting Marvel verus DC,
Marvel verus DC.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Then DC versus Marvel DC versus Marvel. So it was
a big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
To just be getting this and one other book in
November doesn't feel right. So I think they're testing the water.
I think they're finding out right now how much effort
they should put into the next go with this?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay, you might be right on that. Yeah, makes the
most sense.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
All right, let's move over to aluing and maybe my
favorite story that ran out of nowhere, which was the
Guardians of the Galaxy and the Guardians of Oa. The
Green Lanterns and the Guardians was such a great crossover.
Rocket getting a Green Lantern ring and then immediately getting
kicked out of the Green Lantern core is so good
and it was such a funny little story. But what
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maybe even better is the last panel begged so many
more questions, which is them saying what's parallax? And seeing
hal Jordan with the Infinity Gould on the Marvel Man, God,
do I want more than three or four pages of this?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I want an entire run of that, you.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Know, like, like you just said, Marvel's testing it. So
do you give me more, Tell me more, Marvel, you
give me, give DC, both of you give me more
of that, because that's just too good.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
First, Rocket looking like what's his name, Guy Gardner is
just amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's just amazing. The same type attitude.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's very fitting. The vest is
very fitting.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Let's move move over to Frank Miller's book, which was
old Man Logan.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Versus Yeah versus Dark Knight returns Batman. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
It's only what.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You gotta appreciate the fact that dude has never changed, Like,
you know, a Frank Miller's story and a Frank Miller book.
I mean, he is Frank Miller. You will get exactly
what you think you'll get, and some of that's really cool.
Like I really love the first couple of panels, but yeah,
then it just kind of falls off the rails. I'm
not a big Frank Miller art fan, though I like
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Frank Miller books a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Not a big Frank Miller I love his stories. Yeah,
the artwork is.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
A little rough, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The last one the Amalgam character who logo logo Lobo
and Wolverine mixed. Now, this is cool because Lobo and
Wolverine also fought. And I'm I mean tell you can.
I'm sure people will tell me I'm wrong on the Internet,
but I if I remember correctly, Lobo is the answer
to Wolverine for DC. They wanted it the Wolverine style character,
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and they came up with Lobo, and he's awesome and
one of my favorite DC characters. And I'm not gonna lie,
I liked logo. Dumb name, but I liked logo.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Very dumb name.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But I agree the main beauty.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Himself and the freaking his his cycle at the end here,
Oh these the cycles, My god, my god. That that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, the cycle is incredible. He what was it called too?
It was like the triple X weapon triple X. Yeah,
tell the super Soldier.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, the the weapon triple X.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's the name of the bike.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's so good, so good. This is a win.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Not only is it not only is it a win,
it's one of the few books that's gonna come out
that can shift things up. So many books come out,
they're great, and then we never think about them again.
That the sad truth of comic books is that was amazing,
and then you'll never that'll be the end of it.
You'll it'll just go into a long box somewhere and
that'll be the end.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, and then you'll see it again. You're like, oh,
that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
What was the book that?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What was the last Avengers of Avengers Assembled?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
What was the book where a cap was an old man.
It was like the Last Captain of America story just
came out.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
It was old.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh Twilight, Yeah, Avengers Twilight. The only reason I remember
Avengers Twilight is because it's forgettable. I know that's an oxymoron,
I get it. But it's like the movie Elysium. I
only bring up Elysium to remind people that you can
forget about good movies because Elysium is a fun movie.
But I guarantee you haven't thought about it since I
said the name true what you say, yeah, exactly, exactly, No.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You're absolutely right. Twilight was a really good story, but
I kind of forgot about You're right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And that's most comics. This one has a potential to
change things. So regardless on whether or not you like
the book, regardless on whether or not you think it
deserves more stories, this book and how well it sells,
I have a feeling will change the trajectory of both companies.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
If it does well enough, they.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Will take a pause on certain things and they will
start dumping money into more stuff like this, because if
they make money off.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
This, believe you me, they're kind of want to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
How many times do we get the batman who laughs, Yeah, yeah,
believe you me. Not one company wants to turn down
the amount of money that's associated with something like this.
And the nice thing about just letting the writers and
artists do what they want to do is that neither
of them wanted to disrespect the characters in any which way.
True both all the characters felt represented well by whoever
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took whoever's helming the story did a good job with both.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Now the thing is, if let's just say that this
actually does take off, do you want fleshed out world
building stories or do you want more of.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
These one shots I want? Ooh, that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's a great question because I would probably say I
would want an overarching story like I'm used to in
comics that lead somewhere between a bunch of different line
wide books, because you know, like the Ultimate Universe.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm going to pick up each one of those.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, if they come out with four or five different
books all in the same amalgam universe, I'm buying all
of them to see where it all leads. So there's
no question I would much prefer some kind of an
inner locking story.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But I are.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Funny enough that shit pisses me off with certain books,
like with Spider Verse, did it annoyed the cramp out
of me?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Like is one of the reasons I stop reading Next
One all the time is just because it's like, read
these seventeen books and I no, no, So if it
gets to that degree, no, you know what, No, I
don't even know what the hell I'm talking about. I
would one hundred percent love multiple team ups like this
within a similar universe. I want to see those the
Captain America Wonder Woman world realized.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I was gonna say, what of those stories? If
you got to pick one, would you want like the
Wonder Woman one?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Would you niverse hard to answer?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Where you just want team ups?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Why are you making me pick like this?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
We live in a world of Elseworld's my friend. I
can have my cake and eat it too when it
comes to books. You don't have to put these parameters.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
We can know. Let's live in a better world.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Let's live in a better world where we can have
both a slice of cake to enjoy and one that
just is beautiful to stare at.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We can have the more money.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I mean, hey, if I'm buying all of it. I mean,
it really depends. It really depends. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
That's a hard question to answer. I think if I
had to pick one of them, even though I think
the premise is terrible, is the Captain America Wonder Woman?
Because it gave me glimpses of what a world could
look like in these big moments from both companies with
the other characters present.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is just so fun. So that's probably what I would love.
Give me Infinity Gauntlet if the DC exists, If DC
existed in the Marvel universe, give me Blackest Night. If
Marvel existed in the DC universe, that would be an
interesting thing. I would love an else World style story.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
What if Elseworld's basically.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, what if the Justice League showed up?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
What if the Justice League answered the call instead of
the Avengers. I don't know, man, that could be pretty cool.
That could be pretty cool. And I'll tell you what.
James Gunn now being in charge of over at DC,
and has also said many many times never say never.
So if something like this does does numbers, believe you me,
he's gonna be calling good old Kavy Fage saying.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Maybe that's why they did this because he has made
that comment like ver many times.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Many times he's hey, kembo, I got I got a
proposition for you, pal.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Give me it a Malcolm Universe movie.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, yes, no, Marvel, VERUS DC, maybe Amalgamum. I mean,
like yes, I want access.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then I want maybe three movies, three key fights
in each movie. Uh yeah, and then and then we
can move into maybe some of Malcolm stories afterwards. But no,
I want if we're gonna do that, give me access
and give me the world coming to an end, because
like I love Captain America's fight with Batman.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
See that. You know what, that's where the that's what
Secret Wars is gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It's gonna reshape good too, imagin All right, we're just
getting intouous territory. We're gonna wrap this up now now
that we're just fan casting to uh to insanity levels.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Look, if you haven't had your local comics store because
it is not available digitally.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh well cool, Hey, I'm a universe or sold out
almost all of the covers, did they really?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Some of the covers are amazing. Some of the you
know that the Wolverine Batman one and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mike had Mike had won.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I was like, I felt, yeah, because del coo Batman
got the other one as he should, damn it as
he should.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He advertised the book.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Mike said he might be in couple more covers in,
so I said, I'll take one of those when they
come in.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, that's that. That's the best cover. As much as
I actually are like, I like this cover a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think features picked up the Infinity glautlet one.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
The oh did he really the Infinity cover? So that's
a good cover. They should have done these like grab bags,
like blind bags.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, Batman just a dead a week ago.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And they should do more of it. I just feel Look,
I'm I'm against the idea personally. I don't want that
to happen, but for other companies to make money and
for comics to do better, there's just such a weird
pack opening thing right now.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I have all these blockie figures behind me, transform blockies.
They are blind box things, and I hate that.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I bet you do. But look who just pointed at
all the blockies behind them? Stop.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I buy a whole case and you get your eat
them all.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
See, don't make fun of me when I buy my
spider Man, Magic, the Gathering Collector's Box.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
All right, again we're off the rail, yes we are.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You can find the show at that comic podcast everywhere
online it's that comic podcast. Your social media choice unless
it's Twitter and or x which is that comic pod.
But again, that comic podcast the best place to go
YouTube at that comic podcast. That's the best place to
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We have been audio forever and now our goal is
to make these shorts and these videos for you. So
head on over there. Give us the support we need
it there, Yeah, and the definitely make sure you're following
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us everywhere, and let us know what you thought of
the book, because I think I am intrigued to know
whether or not this book is going to I guess
gonna sell. There's no question. What do people think is
the big point. That's a big question right now, because
I hope it does well. I hope so much it
does well. But let me know, let me know if
it does well. All right, what's going on it?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Alright,
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