September 17, 2025 • 16 mins
We’re cracking open Punisher: Red Band #1, Marvel’s brand-new relaunch of the vigilante we all know and fear. Written by Benjamin Percy with brutal, no-holds-barred art from Julius Ohta, this Red Band edition doesn’t pull any punches. With Marvel giving Punisher the mature rating treatment, readers finally get a darker, bloodier, and more uncompromising look at the war on crime.
In this review, we break down the story, artwork, and how this first issue sets the tone for a new chapter in the Punisher legacy. From the writing choices to the intense visuals, we discuss if this is the Punisher book longtime fans have been waiting for.
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In this review, we break down the story, artwork, and how this first issue sets the tone for a new chapter in the Punisher legacy. From the writing choices to the intense visuals, we discuss if this is the Punisher book longtime fans have been waiting for.
Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell so you never miss a review. And for the full conversation, comic news, and weekly breakdowns, check out That Comic Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bad podcaster.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hell, welcome to a different type of show. This is
just Moshco and I.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hey, can I kick it?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes you can very well? Well no no, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We we are passionate about what is going on in
some of the marvel the marveling marvels that we get
every week, and there's been a couple of really good books.
But we were both Moshco and I were like, we
have to talk about Punisher, Like we there's we can't
skip this one because I mean, I knew a new
punisher was coming, but it's up right all of a sudden,
(00:44):
it was just like, oh, punishing number ones here, and
it's like the cover made me so happy to not
see what that's the stupid dragon logo and like, look,
I know some people really liked that time period of
Frank Castle when he was running the Hand and he
was possessed a little bit or whatever and he.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well that wasn't even Frank. That was what's his name,
something Garrison whatever, he was the ex shee.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
That was that was the punisher was the last run.
But at the same time, there was all they read moved.
They moved Frank over to the Hand and made him
part of the Daredevil story. They were trying to get
rid of his logo, and they were they wanted him
to be more Sword related because of how his logo
is being appropriated. So now this is a return to
(01:31):
form Frank Castle, specifically moving into No Way Home or
Not No Way Home Brand New Day. Right with all
of the hubbub of Brand New Day and the fact
that the Punish is going to make an appearance, you
knew they were going to try and send him back
to rights as quickly as they possibly could.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And oh my god, they hit the ground running.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What a first issue.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, right from the first couple pages, you know, it
opens with everything covered in blood, So I didn't I mean,
i'd read.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The you know what spoiler alert across the board spoiler alert.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Now there's not too much to spoil, but there's no
way I can't talk about each aspect of the book.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
There's i'd say three major sections.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and I can't talk about any of them without
spoiling all of them, especially the.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Right because that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
She completely once the end has changes, everything changes the
beginning dramatically. So let's first let's you know what the
hell just let's just start with the ending. Let's just
start with let's just start Let's just get that out
of the way. Let's let's get out of the way
that this whole book Frank is. We don't know what's
going on with Frank. Frank doesn't know what's going on
with Frank. He quite literally wakes up on a boat
that's on fire with a lot of dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He then the police come, They start shooting at him,
He shoots back, he jumps off the boat, he gets
he gets away. Then we all of a sudden start
seeing that the Kingpin is is not only involved in
the story, and so his Tombstone and other gangs, and
we learned that some of the Tombstone's guys were involved
and who was killed on the boat. But again, this
(03:03):
is where everything changes. Frank is being controlled by Kingpin,
it looks it looks like, and maybe he's not to
the degree that we think he is because the way Okay,
so he gets out of the I guess the the
bay or wherever whatever body of water he was in,
and a little old.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Lady helps I wouldn't necessarily say she took him in.
He kind of forced his way to her house.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Sure, but she played ball like.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She was like, you know what, I don't even know
why she did too, because he's kind of an asshole.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
To her a little bit. He was a wounded dog.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He was very wounded, but he was still being a
bit of a jerk to the little old lady who's
giving you all of the things you need to patch
yourself up. So anyway, I was like, come on, Frank,
feeling in pou But regardless, all of a sudden, at
the end of the book, you get Kingpin saying activate
or hitting a button that says punisher activate, and then
he is now looking at this little old lady screaming
(04:02):
to a degree and.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Who are you? Why am I here? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And that I mean that one hundred percent means that
he sent Frank to go kill Tombstone's men, So he's
probably making a move on Tombstone.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Absolutely, yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
What was it he was, which, by the way, Tombstone's gruesome, awesome, ruesome. Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I love the fact that Tombstone's being taken serious as such,
as such a serious character now because he was such
a throwaway, you know, goon side villain.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And it's it's a huge swerve kind of a swerve
in the book because the first, you know, the first
couple of pages is Frank on the boat, you know,
figuring out what's going on there, and then it goes to, uh,
you see a priest, uh, you know, in a confession,
and then Kingpin is basically on the other side, uh
more or less forces you know, forces his hand on
(04:55):
the on the priest, and the priest took care of
himself uh in there. So at first you're thinking, Okay, Kingpin,
that's it, and then you I think it's even the
next panel you see Tombstone's face, which again is pretty
awesome and gruesome.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
H well the way, and he's got several people chained
up on meat hooks and torturing them by.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Cutting them into pieces.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
And then later on you just see like the first
couple of hacks. Later on you just get a bucket
of body parts, including the dude's head.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I was like, oh, this book.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Is so it's very much a Red Band book, very
very Yes, you understand why this book has its has
its it's extra bit of coating, we'll.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Say, and it earns it. It earns it.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I thought it was pretty funny when they were doing
like the Red Band version of the Werewolf by Night
and stuff. But at the same time Carnage was coming out.
That wasn't Red Band are bagged up this one. I
haven't seen any kind of books like that that kind
of matched that degree of brutality.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean Blade was the Red Band. Blade was
kind of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But at least it was Red Band.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What I'm saying is, I haven't seen the standard books
be as gory as they have been at the same
time in the past when they were releasing other Red
Band bagged patches. So they have these books and bags
because they don't want young readers to see them. They
don't want to see the groutesque nature of some of
these books. But at the same time, you'll then get
a book like Carnage when he's decapitating anybody named Fred
(06:31):
was it was the dude's name, but I forget it
was a mark think it was an innocuous name. But regardless,
were pretty gruesome stuff with Carnage, but no black, no,
no bag.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So this earns it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
This, uh, this earns it, And it's the most excited
I've been for Punisher in quite a while.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Mm hmm. Because there's there's again, this this book kind
of sets up the world and and what you're what
Frank is. Even at first you don't even know if
it's really Frank until late, literally the last page, because
I think king Pin says something something Frank. I mean
you well, I.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Know, I know, he's the most classic version of dude.
Dude had the white boots and the white gloves. I mean,
this is the most classic Frank we've ever seen. This
is Frank who punched a polar bear. Frank. This is.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But last book it wasn't Frank.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, and that book's not great, correct. We tried, and
I will give us both credit. We we went five
six issues.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Into that before I tried. I didn't finish it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
This is not this is not bunshit. But you're gonna
call me punisher? I so, yeah, well not really. The
moment you the moment he accepted the name is when
I stopped reading.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I hope this this goes on
for a while, Like if if this is what it's
going to be over you know, twelve twenty four issues.
It also gives me hope for Daredevil because they're kind
of rebooting Daredevil soon.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, it doesn't just give me hope for Daredevil.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
It gives me hope for everything that Marvel's trying to do,
because this all feels like a course correction, Like it
feels like they were like, all right, we we we
expanded these things as far as they can go and
to try and course correct it, and it wasn't working
the way we wanted to. Let's set things to right,
And that's what this book feels like. And I feel
like they were trying to say that right up front
(08:24):
by putting him in the white boots. I mean, the
white boots are ridiculous when you think of Frank Castle,
the fact that this dude spends so much time branding
his outfit with a white belt to white utility belt
with his like.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's a goofy version of Frank.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But I think they did that on purpose because it
just screams we are setting things back to the way
you're used to seeing it. It's like Superman getting his trunks,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ridiculous, but but it feels right right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Beyond beyond with Captain America, with Punishers being the way
that it is with the Ultimate Books, or in the
way that they are I don't have many complaints.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think Wolverine was really good. I kind of fell
off Wolverine.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I haven't really been doing Spider Man, but regardless, for
the most part, I'm pretty happy with what Marvel's doing
outside of say.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The Mutants.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, I haven't. I haven't touched an X Men book.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I tried, it was not into him. Features are still
reading them, so maybe we can do it. But they're
about to start their next big arc, which is like
I don't even future. Yeah, it's like a return to
the Age of Apocalypse or it's a different variation of
Age of Apocalypse or something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Again, I'm not that excited for it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Wolverine looked kind of cool with the metal face that
he looks kind of cool, but like old man Cyclops,
I don't really care. I don't know, it's not for me,
but the but beyond that, Captain America and Punisher alone
are enough for me to just be stoked on what
Marvel's doing because those are two characters it's really easy
to screw up.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh yeah, and to have a couple.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Of times yes, I mean, they had a great book
that went into a Penguin that lost to you and
then slowly lost me. And if you don't know what
I'm referring to, that's the last Capital America run, which.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Started beautiful, so goodtarted beautifully first success issues.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Then it became about the weird magic door and the
penguin who was the devil, And while I stuck with
it as much as I could, it eventually got a
little too weird for me and I dropped that too.
But this new Captain America book is phenomenal. This new
Punisher book is phenomenal. And these things give me hope
for the racks.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Each week. When's the next one coming out? Do we know? Like?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is it next the Punisher? The next new book?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Uh, let's let's take a look at what's coming down
the plot.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I know there's a isn't it? Like Deadpool and Batman? Like,
I know there's.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Something Batman is this week? Oh they're so excited for that?
All right? Well, no question? And Battle Beasts next week?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Uh I felt?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh and so the wait?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
This next week We've got Absolute Flash, the Ultimates, Ultimate
Black Panther, Battle Beast, Batman and Robin which has been great.
Batman Depo, g I Joe exquisite corpses. Wow, next week's
gonna be a great week. I'm not reading the New
Avengers anymore. But the depol Wolverine's been good, Crypto has
been good. Predator kills the Marvel Universe star Wars, Oh
(11:21):
my god. Next week is there's a Marvel Zombies Red
Band number one. Next week Batman's Second Night. They're doing
another black Label book. Remember they did the First Night
where it was a retelling, a reimagining of the very
first Batman book where he hangs a guy off the
bat of the batplane. Remember that, No, you don't remember
(11:44):
that when he had gone and he had the had
purple gloves. He has a gun and he hangs a
guy off the back of the batplane. It's a guy
who kind of gets take They in the reimagining, the
guy's already dead, so you don't kind of feel as
bad for him. But in the original book, yeah, he
hangs a guy who's who's uninformed unfortunately turned into a monster.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But anyway, what else? Boba fet I think I've I've
hit the end of my excitement.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Captain Plan Oh, Dick Tracy, though Dick Tracy has been great.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
DK d c KO The Special Edition number one. What
is that?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well, DKO is the next big arc for d C,
and they looks like they're marketing it as like a
fight like you know, as like KOing somebody, but it
actually stands for King Omega and it's going to be
part of the end of the Absolute stories. So however,
the Absolute storyline is going to wrap up with the
fact that this version of Darkseide is merged with the Specter.
(12:46):
Somebody has to become powerful enough to be able to
fight him. And it's something about how Superman is going
to be kind of powered up to become the King
Omega to allow him to be able to fight uh.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
This this version of dark Side.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But it really just feels like they had to come
up with some kind of an analogy or see not analogy?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Am what is it called? When you what's KO? Not
an analogy?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
What is it called? And or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'm so dumb I feel sometime about that word lost.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm just I'm looking at this. There's four it's fourteen
books over the course of two months, so October November
there's fourteen books to read. I'm looking at the reading
order here.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Fun They were just like, what, what, give me a
good word that starts with K? All right, now, give
me a good word that starts with oh, king Omega.
That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Let's go with that. It's going to be some kind
of a fighting.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Book somehow, m hm, like Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Maybe maybe not, Maybe I don't know what the hell
I'm talking about. That's also a possibility, but I am
not as excited for it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Because again the Cosmic Tournament where heroes and villains are
thrown into a gladiator style battle across Colossal Earth Risen arena.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But apparently I do know what I'm talking about. A
Dot's imagine the Gathering book next week. Oh, it's a
bad week for me, bad week for me. Oh it's
a great week.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But Spiderman cards I can't not out yet? Is that
twenty twenty fourth?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's whatever it is, It's going to be really hard
for me to keep up with books for a little while.
These cards are already like three hundred dollars. Yeah, fun, Well,
maybe we'll see. We'll see if I ever get my
hands on them. But until then, I've got plenty of
comics to read. And next week's going to be really good.
So I can't say enough that it is worth your
(14:39):
time to get to your local shop and to pick
up a lot of what's coming out right now is
really peak comic books like this is a good this
a good little Era. Every week there's like six or
seven books that are just doorstoppers.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Doorstoppers. They'll really stop the door.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, man, if you get or seven of them, that's true.
But you know, I honestly maybe two or three bag
and board slid underneath stop a door.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I don't mess up the books.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
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Speaker 2 (15:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So that's what we got for you right now. I'm
sure we'll have a little more for you at the
end of the week.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh, no question, because I just said this is gonna
be a big week, So let's get a I mean,
there's no no question.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We're doing Deadpool and Batman. I don't care. Moscow can
jump on. It'll just be me just breathing heavy.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Even though I'm gonna just say this now to Buzz
if you ever see this, Buzz, stop putting spoilers I
didn't want in the group chat pat these books. I'm
not saying that I got a couple of Deadpool Wolverine
or Deadpool Batman spoilers.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm not going to say it, but.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Buzz, protect your friends, Protect your friends.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Don't don't. Don't spoil stuff. They didn't ask for it,
all
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Right, I'm not going I mean
Bad podcaster.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hell, welcome to a different type of show. This is
just Moshco and I.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hey, can I kick it?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes you can very well? Well no no, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We we are passionate about what is going on in
some of the marvel the marveling marvels that we get
every week, and there's been a couple of really good books.
But we were both Moshco and I were like, we
have to talk about Punisher, Like we there's we can't
skip this one because I mean, I knew a new
punisher was coming, but it's up right all of a sudden,
(00:44):
it was just like, oh, punishing number ones here, and
it's like the cover made me so happy to not
see what that's the stupid dragon logo and like, look,
I know some people really liked that time period of
Frank Castle when he was running the Hand and he
was possessed a little bit or whatever and he.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well that wasn't even Frank. That was what's his name,
something Garrison whatever, he was the ex shee.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
That was that was the punisher was the last run.
But at the same time, there was all they read moved.
They moved Frank over to the Hand and made him
part of the Daredevil story. They were trying to get
rid of his logo, and they were they wanted him
to be more Sword related because of how his logo
is being appropriated. So now this is a return to
(01:31):
form Frank Castle, specifically moving into No Way Home or
Not No Way Home Brand New Day. Right with all
of the hubbub of Brand New Day and the fact
that the Punish is going to make an appearance, you
knew they were going to try and send him back
to rights as quickly as they possibly could.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And oh my god, they hit the ground running.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What a first issue.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, right from the first couple pages, you know, it
opens with everything covered in blood, So I didn't I mean,
i'd read.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The you know what spoiler alert across the board spoiler alert.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Now there's not too much to spoil, but there's no
way I can't talk about each aspect of the book.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
There's i'd say three major sections.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and I can't talk about any of them without
spoiling all of them, especially the.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Right because that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
She completely once the end has changes, everything changes the
beginning dramatically. So let's first let's you know what the
hell just let's just start with the ending. Let's just
start with let's just start Let's just get that out
of the way. Let's let's get out of the way
that this whole book Frank is. We don't know what's
going on with Frank. Frank doesn't know what's going on
with Frank. He quite literally wakes up on a boat
that's on fire with a lot of dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He then the police come, They start shooting at him,
He shoots back, he jumps off the boat, he gets
he gets away. Then we all of a sudden start
seeing that the Kingpin is is not only involved in
the story, and so his Tombstone and other gangs, and
we learned that some of the Tombstone's guys were involved
and who was killed on the boat. But again, this
(03:03):
is where everything changes. Frank is being controlled by Kingpin,
it looks it looks like, and maybe he's not to
the degree that we think he is because the way Okay,
so he gets out of the I guess the the
bay or wherever whatever body of water he was in,
and a little old.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Lady helps I wouldn't necessarily say she took him in.
He kind of forced his way to her house.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Sure, but she played ball like.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She was like, you know what, I don't even know
why she did too, because he's kind of an asshole.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
To her a little bit. He was a wounded dog.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He was very wounded, but he was still being a
bit of a jerk to the little old lady who's
giving you all of the things you need to patch
yourself up. So anyway, I was like, come on, Frank,
feeling in pou But regardless, all of a sudden, at
the end of the book, you get Kingpin saying activate
or hitting a button that says punisher activate, and then
he is now looking at this little old lady screaming
(04:02):
to a degree and.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Who are you? Why am I here? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And that I mean that one hundred percent means that
he sent Frank to go kill Tombstone's men, So he's
probably making a move on Tombstone.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Absolutely, yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
What was it he was, which, by the way, Tombstone's gruesome, awesome, ruesome. Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I love the fact that Tombstone's being taken serious as such,
as such a serious character now because he was such
a throwaway, you know, goon side villain.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And it's it's a huge swerve kind of a swerve
in the book because the first, you know, the first
couple of pages is Frank on the boat, you know,
figuring out what's going on there, and then it goes to, uh,
you see a priest, uh, you know, in a confession,
and then Kingpin is basically on the other side, uh
more or less forces you know, forces his hand on
(04:55):
the on the priest, and the priest took care of
himself uh in there. So at first you're thinking, Okay, Kingpin,
that's it, and then you I think it's even the
next panel you see Tombstone's face, which again is pretty
awesome and gruesome.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
H well the way, and he's got several people chained
up on meat hooks and torturing them by.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Cutting them into pieces.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
And then later on you just see like the first
couple of hacks. Later on you just get a bucket
of body parts, including the dude's head.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I was like, oh, this book.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Is so it's very much a Red Band book, very
very Yes, you understand why this book has its has
its it's extra bit of coating, we'll.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Say, and it earns it. It earns it.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I thought it was pretty funny when they were doing
like the Red Band version of the Werewolf by Night
and stuff. But at the same time Carnage was coming out.
That wasn't Red Band are bagged up this one. I
haven't seen any kind of books like that that kind
of matched that degree of brutality.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean Blade was the Red Band. Blade was
kind of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But at least it was Red Band.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What I'm saying is, I haven't seen the standard books
be as gory as they have been at the same
time in the past when they were releasing other Red
Band bagged patches. So they have these books and bags
because they don't want young readers to see them. They
don't want to see the groutesque nature of some of
these books. But at the same time, you'll then get
a book like Carnage when he's decapitating anybody named Fred
(06:31):
was it was the dude's name, but I forget it
was a mark think it was an innocuous name. But regardless,
were pretty gruesome stuff with Carnage, but no black, no,
no bag.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So this earns it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
This, uh, this earns it, And it's the most excited
I've been for Punisher in quite a while.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Mm hmm. Because there's there's again, this this book kind
of sets up the world and and what you're what
Frank is. Even at first you don't even know if
it's really Frank until late, literally the last page, because
I think king Pin says something something Frank. I mean
you well, I.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Know, I know, he's the most classic version of dude.
Dude had the white boots and the white gloves. I mean,
this is the most classic Frank we've ever seen. This
is Frank who punched a polar bear. Frank. This is.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But last book it wasn't Frank.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, and that book's not great, correct. We tried, and
I will give us both credit. We we went five
six issues.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Into that before I tried. I didn't finish it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
This is not this is not bunshit. But you're gonna
call me punisher? I so, yeah, well not really. The
moment you the moment he accepted the name is when
I stopped reading.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I hope this this goes on
for a while, Like if if this is what it's
going to be over you know, twelve twenty four issues.
It also gives me hope for Daredevil because they're kind
of rebooting Daredevil soon.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, it doesn't just give me hope for Daredevil.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
It gives me hope for everything that Marvel's trying to do,
because this all feels like a course correction, Like it
feels like they were like, all right, we we we
expanded these things as far as they can go and
to try and course correct it, and it wasn't working
the way we wanted to. Let's set things to right,
And that's what this book feels like. And I feel
like they were trying to say that right up front
(08:24):
by putting him in the white boots. I mean, the
white boots are ridiculous when you think of Frank Castle,
the fact that this dude spends so much time branding
his outfit with a white belt to white utility belt
with his like.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's a goofy version of Frank.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But I think they did that on purpose because it
just screams we are setting things back to the way
you're used to seeing it. It's like Superman getting his trunks,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ridiculous, but but it feels right right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Beyond beyond with Captain America, with Punishers being the way
that it is with the Ultimate Books, or in the
way that they are I don't have many complaints.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think Wolverine was really good. I kind of fell
off Wolverine.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I haven't really been doing Spider Man, but regardless, for
the most part, I'm pretty happy with what Marvel's doing
outside of say.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The Mutants.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, I haven't. I haven't touched an X Men book.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I tried, it was not into him. Features are still
reading them, so maybe we can do it. But they're
about to start their next big arc, which is like
I don't even future. Yeah, it's like a return to
the Age of Apocalypse or it's a different variation of
Age of Apocalypse or something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Again, I'm not that excited for it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Wolverine looked kind of cool with the metal face that
he looks kind of cool, but like old man Cyclops,
I don't really care. I don't know, it's not for me,
but the but beyond that, Captain America and Punisher alone
are enough for me to just be stoked on what
Marvel's doing because those are two characters it's really easy
to screw up.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh yeah, and to have a couple.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Of times yes, I mean, they had a great book
that went into a Penguin that lost to you and
then slowly lost me. And if you don't know what
I'm referring to, that's the last Capital America run, which.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Started beautiful, so goodtarted beautifully first success issues.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Then it became about the weird magic door and the
penguin who was the devil, And while I stuck with
it as much as I could, it eventually got a
little too weird for me and I dropped that too.
But this new Captain America book is phenomenal. This new
Punisher book is phenomenal. And these things give me hope
for the racks.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Each week. When's the next one coming out? Do we know? Like?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is it next the Punisher? The next new book?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Uh, let's let's take a look at what's coming down
the plot.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I know there's a isn't it? Like Deadpool and Batman? Like,
I know there's.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Something Batman is this week? Oh they're so excited for that?
All right? Well, no question? And Battle Beasts next week?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Uh I felt?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh and so the wait?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
This next week We've got Absolute Flash, the Ultimates, Ultimate
Black Panther, Battle Beast, Batman and Robin which has been great.
Batman Depo, g I Joe exquisite corpses. Wow, next week's
gonna be a great week. I'm not reading the New
Avengers anymore. But the depol Wolverine's been good, Crypto has
been good. Predator kills the Marvel Universe star Wars, Oh
(11:21):
my god. Next week is there's a Marvel Zombies Red
Band number one. Next week Batman's Second Night. They're doing
another black Label book. Remember they did the First Night
where it was a retelling, a reimagining of the very
first Batman book where he hangs a guy off the
bat of the batplane. Remember that, No, you don't remember
(11:44):
that when he had gone and he had the had
purple gloves. He has a gun and he hangs a
guy off the back of the batplane. It's a guy
who kind of gets take They in the reimagining, the
guy's already dead, so you don't kind of feel as
bad for him. But in the original book, yeah, he
hangs a guy who's who's uninformed unfortunately turned into a monster.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But anyway, what else? Boba fet I think I've I've
hit the end of my excitement.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Captain Plan Oh, Dick Tracy, though Dick Tracy has been great.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
DK d c KO The Special Edition number one. What
is that?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well, DKO is the next big arc for d C,
and they looks like they're marketing it as like a
fight like you know, as like KOing somebody, but it
actually stands for King Omega and it's going to be
part of the end of the Absolute stories. So however,
the Absolute storyline is going to wrap up with the
fact that this version of Darkseide is merged with the Specter.
(12:46):
Somebody has to become powerful enough to be able to
fight him. And it's something about how Superman is going
to be kind of powered up to become the King
Omega to allow him to be able to fight uh.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
This this version of dark Side.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But it really just feels like they had to come
up with some kind of an analogy or see not analogy?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Am what is it called? When you what's KO? Not
an analogy?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
What is it called? And or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'm so dumb I feel sometime about that word lost.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm just I'm looking at this. There's four it's fourteen
books over the course of two months, so October November
there's fourteen books to read. I'm looking at the reading
order here.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Fun They were just like, what, what, give me a
good word that starts with K? All right, now, give
me a good word that starts with oh, king Omega.
That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Let's go with that. It's going to be some kind
of a fighting.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Book somehow, m hm, like Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Maybe maybe not, Maybe I don't know what the hell
I'm talking about. That's also a possibility, but I am
not as excited for it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Because again the Cosmic Tournament where heroes and villains are
thrown into a gladiator style battle across Colossal Earth Risen arena.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But apparently I do know what I'm talking about. A
Dot's imagine the Gathering book next week. Oh, it's a
bad week for me, bad week for me. Oh it's
a great week.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But Spiderman cards I can't not out yet? Is that
twenty twenty fourth?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's whatever it is, It's going to be really hard
for me to keep up with books for a little while.
These cards are already like three hundred dollars. Yeah, fun, Well,
maybe we'll see. We'll see if I ever get my
hands on them. But until then, I've got plenty of
comics to read. And next week's going to be really good.
So I can't say enough that it is worth your
(14:39):
time to get to your local shop and to pick
up a lot of what's coming out right now is
really peak comic books like this is a good this
a good little Era. Every week there's like six or
seven books that are just doorstoppers.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Doorstoppers. They'll really stop the door.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, man, if you get or seven of them, that's true.
But you know, I honestly maybe two or three bag
and board slid underneath stop a door.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I don't mess up the books.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Anyway. You can find us at that comic podcast dot
com and at that comic podcast on all socials except
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Speaker 2 (15:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So that's what we got for you right now. I'm
sure we'll have a little more for you at the
end of the week.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh, no question, because I just said this is gonna
be a big week, So let's get a I mean,
there's no no question.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We're doing Deadpool and Batman. I don't care. Moscow can
jump on. It'll just be me just breathing heavy.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Even though I'm gonna just say this now to Buzz
if you ever see this, Buzz, stop putting spoilers I
didn't want in the group chat pat these books. I'm
not saying that I got a couple of Deadpool Wolverine
or Deadpool Batman spoilers.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm not going to say it, but.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Buzz, protect your friends, Protect your friends.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Don't don't. Don't spoil stuff. They didn't ask for it,
all
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Right, I'm not going I mean
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