August 24, 2025 • 29 mins
James Gunn is back with Season 2 of Peacemaker, and we just dove into the first episode! From the wild new story beats to John Cena’s over-the-top antics (and questionable dance moves), we break it all down. Is the show still firing on all cylinders, or is the DCU’s favorite foul-mouthed hero starting to lose steam?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
God comic podcasters.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I Features, and I'm joined here today with my wonderful
co hosts.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I have the enigmatic mister Moshco.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
That's that's one heck of a word. What's going on?
What's up? Can I kick it?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes? You can?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And I have our current historian of horror, the Buzzle.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Good to see you guys on a nice Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's good to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And we are gathered here today because we just had
the dropping of Peacemaker season two right on HBO Max.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It was Thursday, I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It came out, so debut episode of season two Peacemaker.
I want to do a round table just to get
a rating first, to see where we all stand on it.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
We're jumping right into it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh yeah, we're going straight into this. Yeah, I mean, well,
at least not a rain. But how do we like it?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We're gonna start spoiler free and then get into the
spoilers a little later, but as of right now.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'll try my best.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I mean, I love the show. I love the first season.
I love the first episode so far. You know, there's
not a lot of bad things I could say about this.
There's there are a little couple of details here and there,
but I'm very pleased with the first episode. I'm really
(01:41):
excited to see where this season goes.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
M Okay, we're.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Doing Stars, We're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We can do Stars, we can do likes Stars.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Make sure you like this video and subscribe. Yeah, I mean,
you know, for the first episode of the season. You know,
there's a lot of places we can go with the show.
So you know, we're we're at four right now. It
was a good episode. It's a great episode. Love it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, okay, buzz what did you think about it?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Dude?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You can tell James Gunn is having fun with this.
This guy has he did supermanimous as like an obligation,
and he's like right back in the peacemaker, like doing
all the things that I think he does best, which
is like character development and adventurous storylines, things that make
you think, you.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Know what I mean. And you know, it's interesting too.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
To see him like bring sort of sea level characters
like to the forefront and it's like, you know, they
don't have to be these like forgotten people, you know,
and he's giving us this new universe now we're expanding.
I mean, I'm in I'm ready to see it. The
preview at the end of the first episode, I don't
know if you guys saw that, it showed like bits
of what's coming. Yes, I'm pumped, Like what's coming looks
really unique.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, you know what I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I at first, as I was watching it, I thought
it was not disappointing, but I thought it was moving
kind of slow, and I was like, I.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Wonder where this is going as of right now.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But as you get further into it and you kind
of see how this story is kind of developing. Because
it picks up right where it left off from the
first season, they show you kind of like what we
may have missed in between that time up until now.
But I definitely want to say that I agree with you.
Buzz James Gunn is doing a hell of a job
(03:28):
with Peacemaker, and to see how how much they've they've
infused it into the dc this new dc U cannon
is even more incredible. From a couple of edits they made, Yeah,
that was it was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
It was the the rickcon on the end the end
the end episode for season one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes, just fallsy, you.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Know what I mean, just like, Hey, we're doing this,
we're here now, forget about it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Next episode's coming, And you know what, I didn't catch
it at first because I was I was I think
at that point I was. I was rather ensnared in
the episode itself, so I didn't really notice it, and
I was like, wait a second, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
They were all there the last time was Justice League.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I was saying, how like, it's interesting. I'm just loving
how you know, with the success of Superman, he's just
like lacing it in and it but not over the top,
you know what I mean, but like just enough to
be like, yeah, you're here, You're in this world. Yeah,
and it kind of you can kind of get hopeful
that you'll see more of it, but you don't really
need to see a lot of that. But it does
feel good to know that, you know, it's all coming together.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, there was. There's definitely a few things that he
needed to go back and fix. Yeah, just from a
cannon standpoint, to get things together. I had the opportunity
to listen to his uh So, DC does a podcast Yeah, yeah,
in certain shows, and this was one with you know him,
his wife Frank Rillo was on it. A couple of
(04:57):
different people, and they kind of went through and talked about,
you know, everything that transpired during this first episode and
the filming and the things behind the scenes. And you know,
he was saying, I can't think of her name, his
kind of the sidekick. What is her name?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No, no, no, WHICHI.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Oh Vigilani No no, no, Liota. Oh, anyway, she they had
to like cut her it's Daniel Brooks. They had to
cut I guess the portion where she says Justice League.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
It's a Justice Gang.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So and they, you know, in the original one, like
she does say Justice League and the camera's on her,
and then in this they had to cut it, redub
the audio over it, and then a couple of different
things that they What was interesting was when you saw
the now the Justice Gang come in, you had.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Super Girl there, Yes, yes, I miss that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah. So she's hovering to the far right of the
screen like Superman, I think, is right next to mister Terrific. Yes,
and this happens.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
H that was that was the end of season one.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Right, so it happened before what happened in Superman. Yes,
So she is around and she's kind of tied in
with this group now we know Superman kind of comes
and goes. But you know that's interesting because now like
we know that she's been around for a while with everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I think that's the beauty of the way James Gunn
is setting up this, this this new DCU.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's it's like it's already established.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The only thing he has to fill in are the
holes of Oh see, they've they've already been around. So
anything new that we get, we're probably going to see
characters popping up. I'm assuming I don't oh for facts,
we'll probably see them popping it up. And was like, oh,
this happened at this time, so this explains how this
they were there by this point.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm totally okay with I'm totally okay with that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And it begs the question too, how important is Peacemaker
to this new DCU.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I think it's important and because it's you know, it
did well in ratings and it's like well received and
so that kind of like gives it importance first of all.
And you don't have to know a whole lot about
the character to like jump into the show as a fan.
I'll be honest with you when I talk to people
about this stuff who are not like necessarily comp with
people they love Peacemaker. So that should that should prove
(07:43):
that you're going like in the right direction, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's so funny that that he has this uncanny ability
to take, like you said, was a C or D
level character and then make it into something extraordinary where
everybody goes, oh, this is awesome, like yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Because he did this movie called super Like back in
the day that was like I think it was a
Truma film or something independent, and it had like his
brother and other stuff, but it was kind of like
sea level superheroes and like their day to day life.
So now here he is all these years later, sort
of working in the big time doing the same sort
of thing.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
And he's good at it.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
I think if you mix when you mix the comedy
in you know, with the superhero element, like that's been
a win for a lot of characters like in the past,
So Peacemakers kind of doing it, you know, for DC.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know what, Honestly, I like James Gunn style of
writing with with the infusion of the like, it's not
I don't think it's over the top comedy. Like a
lot of people, I've seen people saying like it's it's
making too much fun or too they treating these like comedies,
and I don't. I don't think that's the case. I
think he is. He's well placed uh comedic writing.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Absolutely, that's in the comics. There's a Spider Man does
it every fifth panel. You know, it's like always, it's
it's what makes comics fun. You know, comics are extension
of comic strips and they're fun me. So you know,
it's not like you're not trying to like lampoon superheroes
as much. You're just trying to like it's you know,
it's obviously a very imaginative storyline, so there's gotta be
some humor in it to take the seriousness out of it, right.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
If it, if it fits the character, then it's appropriate,
right Absolutemaker is a jackass, like yeah he is, there
should be nothing but bits going on around him all
the time.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
As I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
As a matter of fact, I think one of probably
the funniest bit was was it was this.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The first time we saw Maxwell Lord, it's.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
The scene most we've seen him since the Superman movie.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, where there was actually him having something to do. Yeah,
that was a great scene. That was phenomenal. Yeah, I
think that.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Pos that posed the tweet or the message about if
Maxwell Lord is gonna be this evil villain and you know,
he's going back to like the O G version where
it's a little more of a con man with a heart,
but still someone you're like, weren't sure if you could trust,
who's still trying to figure out his way in the universe.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And you know what that's that's the vibe I get from.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He just seems like an asshole that was trying to
do something good. But it definitely some underlying, underlying intentions
behind it all. But I think showing guns representation of
him was was was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It was pretty It's good.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
It's good timing for Sean too, because he typically gets
like this like goofy character to play, you know, and
it's like they don't really let I mean, he's acting
for sure, but they don't really give him like a
you know, like a normal role, and so it's this
is kind of his chance to stretch on.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That mm hm.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So so one of the things I think d C
has always been kind of like like really well it's
their thing. I think they're better at than than Marble at,
and that's doing one off stories and movies where they
don't have to necessarily connect. And I think with the
(10:57):
way that this episode goes when it when you start
he starts going into his his his armory, which is
in a pocket dimension, it kind of shows you like
there is another way for them to kind of explain
a multiverse. Maybe that's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It's like the Monsters inc. Moment you know these door
and it like leads to everything else. I was like, yes,
Like where had I seen this before?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He he said there's nine or there's there's ninety nine
other doors.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yeah, which I which I love because, like you, he
did the thing that you need to be able to
do with this type of universe stuff is open the
floor for just about anything that happen, kind of like
what Marvel does with the TVA.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Like now you're in this.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Place where it's like, okay, we can bring anybody in
now and the writing can open up and you don't
have to connect it all per se like preemptively. Yeah,
you can establish it independently and see where.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It goes exactly and that's funny because h with Marvel,
it's their multiverse both DC. It seems like they're just
going to use the Pocket dimensions to kind of explain
how we're getting into different different universes and finding different characters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's what it seems like. And I think that's.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Actually a pretty easy to use an an awesome idea.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, and that's how the comics work, you know, it's
always the DC universe is always like another dimension and
another this or that, you know, Marvel to multiverses, So
roll with it.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
One of the questions I have, and I've I've heard
actually from a couple of people, is like, how did
his father come up with the technology to develop that?
You know it? Does he have ties to Lex or
Luther Core, being that it's pretty much the same exact tech. Yeah, absolutely,
So I'm sure we're going to get some of that information.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Pretty cool. And I had not consider that, you.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Know what, neither have I.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I now I want to rewatch the first season to
just to kind of get more of his father's backstory
because I'm I can't remember quite right if it was
if it was military or or something else.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
He was like a fit. I don't know the specific title,
but he was very much into you know, technology and
things like that. I mean, obviously he was developing the
helmets and everything. So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I'm sure there's a comic about it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Likely.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I remember picking up a peacemaker one or his first
appearance after the season came out, because I didn't really
know a lot about the character, and when I read it,
I was like, wow, this is like pretty pretty right on.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Did did you guys watch through the opening dance sequence?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yes? Yeah, I mean I feel like it would be
a crime to not watch that part. And I'm a.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Little over it. I have to admit.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
It's a new one and done. It's like a new
dance and a new song.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now, yeah it is.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
And I saw my boy, my favorite guy, Michael Rooker
was in there on the bottom. I can't wait for
his character. Yeah, you love that Brooker is backing a
gun project again. That's that's like to me, I'm like,
all right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I just want to say I love how serious all
the actors take that that musical opening, because they're all
faced in just before the moves off.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Stuff like Frank Grilla was saying about it. It was like,
I can't believe I'm doing this. They said I did
such a great job. I feel like I have two
left feet. You know. Fun fact, I think it was
Alan Tudik's wife choreographed it. Wow, notore on that, but
I think so the internet can fact check me on
(14:36):
it if they like, put it in the comments.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We'll bring that back up for baby. He next out.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, just to kind of move move things along, because
there's a couple of different things. How about the elephants
in the room, you know, I want to discuss that
crazy scene that apparently.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I I'm usually all for this stuff. I gotta admit
I'm good for gratuitous anything, but this one felt a
little like, why why is this even here?
Speaker 6 (15:09):
I think it I think it went on a little
too long, you know what I mean. I think it's hilarious.
I wouldn't take it out, but I'm like, okay, all right,
well there's another Now we're seeing it through this windows.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, yet it it's absolutely I could see it was.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
It was definitely the length.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It was the length. It was the length.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, I agree, And.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
As I was watching it, because it's funny because that
that scene happens to you you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Expect it at all, like a freight train for sure. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It almost felt like you were on this that that
coke binge with pieces.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, setting it up, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I saw a couple of different comments about, you know,
you want to talk about the most awkward moment when
I was sitting there with my thirteen year old kid
getting ready to watch the show, and how many minutes.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Like maybe a warning, you know, disclaimer in the beginning,
there's some stuff happened.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I think a lot of people might be jumping in
with this episode and not watching the first season. I
think a lot of people, from what I'm seeing, did
not see the first season. It's weird, but it's you know,
they're coming off of Superman. Yeah, pretty wholesome movie, very
wholesome movie. This is tied into it, and that's what
they got.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Wow. You know what I think?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think too, Like if if you've seen the first
season of Peacemaker, you kind of went.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Into it, I think so it revs you, it revs
you up into what it's going to be.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
And so if you're jumping in this new one off
of the back of Superman through advertising like that, Yeah,
I didn't even consider that anyone would be in that
situation because I saw season one.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Right, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It wasn't like the Dead Book.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
One was like I only are and then like two
became like more team right.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, it's sort of Game of Throne scene in
the middle of Peacemaker and yeah, right, you expect it
from Game.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Of Thrones, all right, I mean you I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And again I don't think you expected it from Peacemaker,
just because I don't think we went into that extreme
in the first season this and it just kind of
pops in your face literally does.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh wows.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So other thing I wanted to to ask you guys
about if you've noticed this that the the themes of
of of James Gunn's writing it. It seems like a
lot of it's coming off very family oriented, or at
least having to deal with father son relationships with In Superman,
you had Kyle lo really or Clark uh leaning on
(17:57):
like the words of his parents and and and that
was his you know, that being his identity, and then
with Peacemaker we find him Uh dealing with it looks
to be like a lot of unresolved feelings with his
father and his brother. You know, I don't I don't
want to say too much because if people haven't seen
this already. H but you know, going through that pocket
(18:22):
dimension and seeing what he saw and getting.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
To do spoilers enough, all right, So spoiler spoilerer here
on out. Even though we said a couple of things
that could be spoiler, actually no we didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, not really, not really.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I like to talk about scenes specifically, So yeah, we
need to talk about that because you're definitely onto something
like he there's always that that human aspect and relationships
that he puts into everything that he writes, and that's
what makes it good.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yes, yeah, grounds it and it's not enjoyable as a
superhero product if it doesn't have that stuff in.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It with animals and stuff too.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah, he's smart with that, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
And obviously you know, you know Peacemaker's father's back and
is a different version of them, you know. So you
know you're mentioned the father clip. You know that is
it's a running theme. I think you look at part
Peter Parker too. It's like a running theme in comics
in general and then life, you know, so, and I
think it's like again mash is saying, with the human element,
you know, it's a common human element, so it works,
(19:25):
you know, and people get that he connects you to
the character.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, and it's it's definitely I felt it a little bit,
like because you know, I don't I don't have like
the greatest relationship with my dad, But you know, you
sometimes you'll go back thinking like, hey, I I really
I wanted to be something better, and him having an
opportunity to at least see that since something that he's missing,
(19:52):
it kind of opens up the door of like, like
we said, I really want to see what happens next with.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
This, and yeah, I mean it's interesting too because you
if I was peacemaker, right, if I was in that
position and I had that relationship with my father, why
that would be the potential of the pocket dimension. That
would be the ultimate potential to get what is lost,
not so much as finding something new and that's gonna
(20:19):
that's anchoring him into that other dimension obviously in those
clips of the future episodes where he's like going with it.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, I think and buzz You shared an article earlier
about how I guess the people who get the stuff
early so called reviewers and critics out there are used
so called because that's what they are so called to do.
Proclaimed proclaimed, Uh, they were able to see the first
(20:48):
five episodes and it stopped there. They're not getting They're
gonna have to see the rest of the show with
the rest of us. And there's definitely, you know, there's
probably gonna be something that happens on that in that
sixth episode. I think for the first five episodes, we're
probably going to experience that back and forth of the
pocket dimension and uh, you know Chris Peacemaker living in
(21:11):
that other door for a while. Yeah, and then I
think something's gonna happen. Uh, that's kind of where it's going.
I think we'll see.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm speculating and in advance because I think I think
it may it may involve like another character from the
extent from the DCU. They might just bring another cameo
in and then it could be a big one because
it looks like at this point like they're not they're
not afraid to add in some big elements for connection.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, I mean, they have other characters that they need to,
you know, flesh out their stories because Harcourt, like, you
want to talk about one of the best fight scenes.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, that was amazing, you know hearing I forget her
actual name, miss Gunn, this is gun hearing what she
had to go through to train, Like the majority of
that is all her, Like they had a I guess
a double stunt double with her to train, but there
were very few like spots that the stunt person actually
(22:16):
did in this. You can tell what you could see
her face for a lot of that. That's obviously her
going through, you know, something major where she wanted to
you know, essentially feel something. So she gets in a
bar fight, you know, yes, I.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Love the bit about the toxic masculinity on.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Her totally applies and I was like, you know what
that is.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
That's appropriate, it's smart, you know what I mean, Like
you take two opposing things to put it together make
something new, and it's it's.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
The you know the flag, Yeah, you know that whole
Here's here's the guy I'm going out or because I
guess he took a over for Waller, right, yeah, yeah,
so he now has access to all the information that
Waller you know, was able to see, especially with Peacemaker.
(23:11):
So he's gonna probably chase that rabbit there was a
rabbit in this. He's going to chase that rabbit down,
you know, to find out what happened with his son. Yes,
I mean he knows, he's I don't he knows that
Peacemaker killed him.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Right, I think he suspects it. I don't think he knows.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So that's going to unfold during this.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It has.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Great dynamic for him getting access to the info, like
upgrading his character if you will, you know, instead of
man now he gets to be kind of a boss,
almost like a covert shield kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah. I like how well.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I want to run it back to the Pocket dimension
and things that were mentioned in the show. And I
thought it was very interesting that when he gets this
this back in time, he goes in after you know,
the the Boys moment show, Uh, when he's he's he's uh,
he's talking to his brother after he goes back into
the thought spoilers, Yeah, you said.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Spoilers, but we never actually talked about the other person
in the Pocket dimension. I thought we were saving that.
That's fine. That actor is pretty cool. He was in
the office.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, Roy, Yeah, he's Roy.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That was cool to see him, glad that. I was
happy to see him in there episode has been out
for a few days. You remember he mentioned when when
he got there, he says, oh, hey, I thought you
were in blood Haven? And who do we know is
the main vigilante in blood Haven?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There we go, there we go?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Now and see now this this, this could all lead
back into it. Well, is is the the Batman going
to be a part of the d c U or
are they going to do a different Batman? Or how
do we because how do we get night Wing from Peacemaker?
And we know like and they want to bring in
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a Robin character in the in the Batman films.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I'll say if they got if they bring that what
was his name, Brandon or whatever from the Titan Show
in his night Wing? Yeah, I know they won't, but
I would love that because he was really good man.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
No, he was I people didn't see that, but it
was fire.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, what say you, Mutch? What are you thinking over there.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
In general? Or about night Wing in general?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You can add you can splatter some night Wing in there.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Let me let me splatter this glitter across the screen
for a second. Here, did you catch the thirty second
from Mars references?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah? Is that supposed to be a I think.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It was very much a Jared Leto, a.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Jared letter dig.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Right, yeah, and is it like a Snyder dig?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Is that what that is too?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I don't think it was a Snyder dig. I think
it was just specifically a Letto because if I'm not mistake,
and there was like some things that Leto said about
about you, I'm not sure I believe, but he said
something about the you know, joker thing. It is what
it is. But yeah, we're.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Talking about being the best joker or whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Something something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
No, he didnt already, so go just yeah, leave it alone, buddy,
see that now.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
It's pretty dope. Side side note, there's a twenty ninety
nine movie coming out on Prime or something like that.
What is it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Like?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
No? No, no, you know how they had twenty forty
nine twenty nine. Yeah, okay, we'll cover that on a
different show sometimes.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, I'm working behind the scenes on that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
But overalls, as it stands right now, episode one of Peacemaker.
I for me, if I had to go out of
five stars, I would give it. I'd give it a
salid four point five being fair, but I would really
like to give it a five.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
But I'm gonna go four point five.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, I mean you can't. You can't do five right
out of the gate. You have nowhere to go away. Yeah,
so you know, I'm sticking with my four. Like I
said earlier, I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Do four too, because I think we're gonna say I
think we're gonna say five once we get the whole season. Yeah,
it's like an unbeat like an undisputable five once we
get the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, unlike that wonderful scene, I'm gonna hold back a
little bit and not you know, go for the never mind.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Don't go for the judge.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
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Speaker 5 (00:35):
Good to see you guys on a nice Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's good to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And we are gathered here today because we just had
the dropping of Peacemaker season two right on HBO Max.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It was Thursday, I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It came out, so debut episode of season two Peacemaker.
I want to do a round table just to get
a rating first, to see where we all stand on it.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
We're jumping right into it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh yeah, we're going straight into this. Yeah, I mean, well,
at least not a rain. But how do we like it?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We're gonna start spoiler free and then get into the
spoilers a little later, but as of right now.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'll try my best.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I mean, I love the show. I love the first season.
I love the first episode so far. You know, there's
not a lot of bad things I could say about this.
There's there are a little couple of details here and there,
but I'm very pleased with the first episode. I'm really
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excited to see where this season goes.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
M Okay, we're.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Doing Stars, We're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We can do Stars, we can do likes Stars.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Make sure you like this video and subscribe. Yeah, I mean,
you know, for the first episode of the season. You know,
there's a lot of places we can go with the show.
So you know, we're we're at four right now. It
was a good episode. It's a great episode. Love it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, okay, buzz what did you think about it?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Dude?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You can tell James Gunn is having fun with this.
This guy has he did supermanimous as like an obligation,
and he's like right back in the peacemaker, like doing
all the things that I think he does best, which
is like character development and adventurous storylines, things that make
you think, you.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Know what I mean. And you know, it's interesting too.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
To see him like bring sort of sea level characters
like to the forefront and it's like, you know, they
don't have to be these like forgotten people, you know,
and he's giving us this new universe now we're expanding.
I mean, I'm in I'm ready to see it. The
preview at the end of the first episode, I don't
know if you guys saw that, it showed like bits
of what's coming. Yes, I'm pumped, Like what's coming looks
really unique.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, you know what I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I at first, as I was watching it, I thought
it was not disappointing, but I thought it was moving
kind of slow, and I was like, I.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Wonder where this is going as of right now.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But as you get further into it and you kind
of see how this story is kind of developing. Because
it picks up right where it left off from the
first season, they show you kind of like what we
may have missed in between that time up until now.
But I definitely want to say that I agree with you.
Buzz James Gunn is doing a hell of a job
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with Peacemaker, and to see how how much they've they've
infused it into the dc this new dc U cannon
is even more incredible. From a couple of edits they made, Yeah,
that was it was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
It was the the rickcon on the end the end
the end episode for season one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes, just fallsy, you.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Know what I mean, just like, Hey, we're doing this,
we're here now, forget about it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Next episode's coming, And you know what, I didn't catch
it at first because I was I was I think
at that point I was. I was rather ensnared in
the episode itself, so I didn't really notice it, and
I was like, wait a second, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
They were all there the last time was Justice League.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I was saying, how like, it's interesting. I'm just loving
how you know, with the success of Superman, he's just
like lacing it in and it but not over the top,
you know what I mean, but like just enough to
be like, yeah, you're here, You're in this world. Yeah,
and it kind of you can kind of get hopeful
that you'll see more of it, but you don't really
need to see a lot of that. But it does
feel good to know that, you know, it's all coming together.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, there was. There's definitely a few things that he
needed to go back and fix. Yeah, just from a
cannon standpoint, to get things together. I had the opportunity
to listen to his uh So, DC does a podcast Yeah, yeah,
in certain shows, and this was one with you know him,
his wife Frank Rillo was on it. A couple of
(04:57):
different people, and they kind of went through and talked about,
you know, everything that transpired during this first episode and
the filming and the things behind the scenes. And you know,
he was saying, I can't think of her name, his
kind of the sidekick. What is her name?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No, no, no, WHICHI.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Oh Vigilani No no, no, Liota. Oh, anyway, she they had
to like cut her it's Daniel Brooks. They had to
cut I guess the portion where she says Justice League.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
It's a Justice Gang.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So and they, you know, in the original one, like
she does say Justice League and the camera's on her,
and then in this they had to cut it, redub
the audio over it, and then a couple of different
things that they What was interesting was when you saw
the now the Justice Gang come in, you had.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Super Girl there, Yes, yes, I miss that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah. So she's hovering to the far right of the
screen like Superman, I think, is right next to mister Terrific. Yes,
and this happens.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
H that was that was the end of season one.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Right, so it happened before what happened in Superman. Yes,
So she is around and she's kind of tied in
with this group now we know Superman kind of comes
and goes. But you know that's interesting because now like
we know that she's been around for a while with everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I think that's the beauty of the way James Gunn
is setting up this, this this new DCU.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's it's like it's already established.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The only thing he has to fill in are the
holes of Oh see, they've they've already been around. So
anything new that we get, we're probably going to see
characters popping up. I'm assuming I don't oh for facts,
we'll probably see them popping it up. And was like, oh,
this happened at this time, so this explains how this
they were there by this point.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm totally okay with I'm totally okay with that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And it begs the question too, how important is Peacemaker
to this new DCU.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I think it's important and because it's you know, it
did well in ratings and it's like well received and
so that kind of like gives it importance first of all.
And you don't have to know a whole lot about
the character to like jump into the show as a fan.
I'll be honest with you when I talk to people
about this stuff who are not like necessarily comp with
people they love Peacemaker. So that should that should prove
(07:43):
that you're going like in the right direction, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's so funny that that he has this uncanny ability
to take, like you said, was a C or D
level character and then make it into something extraordinary where
everybody goes, oh, this is awesome, like yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Because he did this movie called super Like back in
the day that was like I think it was a
Truma film or something independent, and it had like his
brother and other stuff, but it was kind of like
sea level superheroes and like their day to day life.
So now here he is all these years later, sort
of working in the big time doing the same sort
of thing.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
And he's good at it.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
I think if you mix when you mix the comedy
in you know, with the superhero element, like that's been
a win for a lot of characters like in the past,
So Peacemakers kind of doing it, you know, for DC.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know what, Honestly, I like James Gunn style of
writing with with the infusion of the like, it's not
I don't think it's over the top comedy. Like a
lot of people, I've seen people saying like it's it's
making too much fun or too they treating these like comedies,
and I don't. I don't think that's the case. I
think he is. He's well placed uh comedic writing.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Absolutely, that's in the comics. There's a Spider Man does
it every fifth panel. You know, it's like always, it's
it's what makes comics fun. You know, comics are extension
of comic strips and they're fun me. So you know,
it's not like you're not trying to like lampoon superheroes
as much. You're just trying to like it's you know,
it's obviously a very imaginative storyline, so there's gotta be
some humor in it to take the seriousness out of it, right.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
If it, if it fits the character, then it's appropriate,
right Absolutemaker is a jackass, like yeah he is, there
should be nothing but bits going on around him all
the time.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
As I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
As a matter of fact, I think one of probably
the funniest bit was was it was this.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The first time we saw Maxwell Lord, it's.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
The scene most we've seen him since the Superman movie.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, where there was actually him having something to do. Yeah,
that was a great scene. That was phenomenal. Yeah, I
think that.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Pos that posed the tweet or the message about if
Maxwell Lord is gonna be this evil villain and you know,
he's going back to like the O G version where
it's a little more of a con man with a heart,
but still someone you're like, weren't sure if you could trust,
who's still trying to figure out his way in the universe.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And you know what that's that's the vibe I get from.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He just seems like an asshole that was trying to
do something good. But it definitely some underlying, underlying intentions
behind it all. But I think showing guns representation of
him was was was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It was pretty It's good.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
It's good timing for Sean too, because he typically gets
like this like goofy character to play, you know, and
it's like they don't really let I mean, he's acting
for sure, but they don't really give him like a
you know, like a normal role, and so it's this
is kind of his chance to stretch on.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That mm hm.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So so one of the things I think d C
has always been kind of like like really well it's
their thing. I think they're better at than than Marble at,
and that's doing one off stories and movies where they
don't have to necessarily connect. And I think with the
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way that this episode goes when it when you start
he starts going into his his his armory, which is
in a pocket dimension, it kind of shows you like
there is another way for them to kind of explain
a multiverse. Maybe that's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It's like the Monsters inc. Moment you know these door
and it like leads to everything else. I was like, yes,
Like where had I seen this before?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He he said there's nine or there's there's ninety nine
other doors.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yeah, which I which I love because, like you, he
did the thing that you need to be able to
do with this type of universe stuff is open the
floor for just about anything that happen, kind of like
what Marvel does with the TVA.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Like now you're in this.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Place where it's like, okay, we can bring anybody in
now and the writing can open up and you don't
have to connect it all per se like preemptively. Yeah,
you can establish it independently and see where.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It goes exactly and that's funny because h with Marvel,
it's their multiverse both DC. It seems like they're just
going to use the Pocket dimensions to kind of explain
how we're getting into different different universes and finding different characters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's what it seems like. And I think that's.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Actually a pretty easy to use an an awesome idea.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, and that's how the comics work, you know, it's
always the DC universe is always like another dimension and
another this or that, you know, Marvel to multiverses, So
roll with it.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
One of the questions I have, and I've I've heard
actually from a couple of people, is like, how did
his father come up with the technology to develop that?
You know it? Does he have ties to Lex or
Luther Core, being that it's pretty much the same exact tech. Yeah, absolutely,
So I'm sure we're going to get some of that information.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Pretty cool. And I had not consider that, you.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Know what, neither have I.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I now I want to rewatch the first season to
just to kind of get more of his father's backstory
because I'm I can't remember quite right if it was
if it was military or or something else.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
He was like a fit. I don't know the specific title,
but he was very much into you know, technology and
things like that. I mean, obviously he was developing the
helmets and everything. So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I'm sure there's a comic about it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Likely.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I remember picking up a peacemaker one or his first
appearance after the season came out, because I didn't really
know a lot about the character, and when I read it,
I was like, wow, this is like pretty pretty right on.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Did did you guys watch through the opening dance sequence?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yes? Yeah, I mean I feel like it would be
a crime to not watch that part. And I'm a.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Little over it. I have to admit.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
It's a new one and done. It's like a new
dance and a new song.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now, yeah it is.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
And I saw my boy, my favorite guy, Michael Rooker
was in there on the bottom. I can't wait for
his character. Yeah, you love that Brooker is backing a
gun project again. That's that's like to me, I'm like,
all right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I just want to say I love how serious all
the actors take that that musical opening, because they're all
faced in just before the moves off.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Stuff like Frank Grilla was saying about it. It was like,
I can't believe I'm doing this. They said I did
such a great job. I feel like I have two
left feet. You know. Fun fact, I think it was
Alan Tudik's wife choreographed it. Wow, notore on that, but
I think so the internet can fact check me on
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it if they like, put it in the comments.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We'll bring that back up for baby. He next out.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, just to kind of move move things along, because
there's a couple of different things. How about the elephants
in the room, you know, I want to discuss that
crazy scene that apparently.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I I'm usually all for this stuff. I gotta admit
I'm good for gratuitous anything, but this one felt a
little like, why why is this even here?
Speaker 6 (15:09):
I think it I think it went on a little
too long, you know what I mean. I think it's hilarious.
I wouldn't take it out, but I'm like, okay, all right,
well there's another Now we're seeing it through this windows.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, yet it it's absolutely I could see it was.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
It was definitely the length.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It was the length. It was the length.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, I agree, And.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
As I was watching it, because it's funny because that
that scene happens to you you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Expect it at all, like a freight train for sure. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It almost felt like you were on this that that
coke binge with pieces.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, setting it up, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I saw a couple of different comments about, you know,
you want to talk about the most awkward moment when
I was sitting there with my thirteen year old kid
getting ready to watch the show, and how many minutes.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Like maybe a warning, you know, disclaimer in the beginning,
there's some stuff happened.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I think a lot of people might be jumping in
with this episode and not watching the first season. I
think a lot of people, from what I'm seeing, did
not see the first season. It's weird, but it's you know,
they're coming off of Superman. Yeah, pretty wholesome movie, very
wholesome movie. This is tied into it, and that's what
they got.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Wow. You know what I think?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think too, Like if if you've seen the first
season of Peacemaker, you kind of went.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Into it, I think so it revs you, it revs
you up into what it's going to be.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
And so if you're jumping in this new one off
of the back of Superman through advertising like that, Yeah,
I didn't even consider that anyone would be in that
situation because I saw season one.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Right, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It wasn't like the Dead Book.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
One was like I only are and then like two
became like more team right.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, it's sort of Game of Throne scene in
the middle of Peacemaker and yeah, right, you expect it
from Game.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Of Thrones, all right, I mean you I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And again I don't think you expected it from Peacemaker,
just because I don't think we went into that extreme
in the first season this and it just kind of
pops in your face literally does.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh wows.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So other thing I wanted to to ask you guys
about if you've noticed this that the the themes of
of of James Gunn's writing it. It seems like a
lot of it's coming off very family oriented, or at
least having to deal with father son relationships with In Superman,
you had Kyle lo really or Clark uh leaning on
(17:57):
like the words of his parents and and and that
was his you know, that being his identity, and then
with Peacemaker we find him Uh dealing with it looks
to be like a lot of unresolved feelings with his
father and his brother. You know, I don't I don't
want to say too much because if people haven't seen
this already. H but you know, going through that pocket
(18:22):
dimension and seeing what he saw and getting.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
To do spoilers enough, all right, So spoiler spoilerer here
on out. Even though we said a couple of things
that could be spoiler, actually no we didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, not really, not really.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I like to talk about scenes specifically, So yeah, we
need to talk about that because you're definitely onto something
like he there's always that that human aspect and relationships
that he puts into everything that he writes, and that's
what makes it good.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yes, yeah, grounds it and it's not enjoyable as a
superhero product if it doesn't have that stuff in.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It with animals and stuff too.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah, he's smart with that, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
And obviously you know, you know Peacemaker's father's back and
is a different version of them, you know. So you
know you're mentioned the father clip. You know that is
it's a running theme. I think you look at part
Peter Parker too. It's like a running theme in comics
in general and then life, you know, so, and I
think it's like again mash is saying, with the human element,
you know, it's a common human element, so it works,
(19:25):
you know, and people get that he connects you to
the character.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, and it's it's definitely I felt it a little bit,
like because you know, I don't I don't have like
the greatest relationship with my dad, But you know, you
sometimes you'll go back thinking like, hey, I I really
I wanted to be something better, and him having an
opportunity to at least see that since something that he's missing,
(19:52):
it kind of opens up the door of like, like
we said, I really want to see what happens next with.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
This, and yeah, I mean it's interesting too because you
if I was peacemaker, right, if I was in that
position and I had that relationship with my father, why
that would be the potential of the pocket dimension. That
would be the ultimate potential to get what is lost,
not so much as finding something new and that's gonna
(20:19):
that's anchoring him into that other dimension obviously in those
clips of the future episodes where he's like going with it.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, I think and buzz You shared an article earlier
about how I guess the people who get the stuff
early so called reviewers and critics out there are used
so called because that's what they are so called to do.
Proclaimed proclaimed, Uh, they were able to see the first
(20:48):
five episodes and it stopped there. They're not getting They're
gonna have to see the rest of the show with
the rest of us. And there's definitely, you know, there's
probably gonna be something that happens on that in that
sixth episode. I think for the first five episodes, we're
probably going to experience that back and forth of the
pocket dimension and uh, you know Chris Peacemaker living in
(21:11):
that other door for a while. Yeah, and then I
think something's gonna happen. Uh, that's kind of where it's going.
I think we'll see.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm speculating and in advance because I think I think
it may it may involve like another character from the
extent from the DCU. They might just bring another cameo
in and then it could be a big one because
it looks like at this point like they're not they're
not afraid to add in some big elements for connection.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, I mean, they have other characters that they need to,
you know, flesh out their stories because Harcourt, like, you
want to talk about one of the best fight scenes.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, that was amazing, you know hearing I forget her
actual name, miss Gunn, this is gun hearing what she
had to go through to train, Like the majority of
that is all her, Like they had a I guess
a double stunt double with her to train, but there
were very few like spots that the stunt person actually
(22:16):
did in this. You can tell what you could see
her face for a lot of that. That's obviously her
going through, you know, something major where she wanted to
you know, essentially feel something. So she gets in a
bar fight, you know, yes, I.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Love the bit about the toxic masculinity on.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Her totally applies and I was like, you know what
that is.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
That's appropriate, it's smart, you know what I mean, Like
you take two opposing things to put it together make
something new, and it's it's.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
The you know the flag, Yeah, you know that whole
Here's here's the guy I'm going out or because I
guess he took a over for Waller, right, yeah, yeah,
so he now has access to all the information that
Waller you know, was able to see, especially with Peacemaker.
(23:11):
So he's gonna probably chase that rabbit there was a
rabbit in this. He's going to chase that rabbit down,
you know, to find out what happened with his son. Yes,
I mean he knows, he's I don't he knows that
Peacemaker killed him.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Right, I think he suspects it. I don't think he knows.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So that's going to unfold during this.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It has.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Great dynamic for him getting access to the info, like
upgrading his character if you will, you know, instead of
man now he gets to be kind of a boss,
almost like a covert shield kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah. I like how well.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I want to run it back to the Pocket dimension
and things that were mentioned in the show. And I
thought it was very interesting that when he gets this
this back in time, he goes in after you know,
the the Boys moment show, Uh, when he's he's he's uh,
he's talking to his brother after he goes back into
the thought spoilers, Yeah, you said.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Spoilers, but we never actually talked about the other person
in the Pocket dimension. I thought we were saving that.
That's fine. That actor is pretty cool. He was in
the office.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, Roy, Yeah, he's Roy.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That was cool to see him, glad that. I was
happy to see him in there episode has been out
for a few days. You remember he mentioned when when
he got there, he says, oh, hey, I thought you
were in blood Haven? And who do we know is
the main vigilante in blood Haven?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There we go, there we go?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Now and see now this this, this could all lead
back into it. Well, is is the the Batman going
to be a part of the d c U or
are they going to do a different Batman? Or how
do we because how do we get night Wing from Peacemaker?
And we know like and they want to bring in
(25:07):
a Robin character in the in the Batman films.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I'll say if they got if they bring that what
was his name, Brandon or whatever from the Titan Show
in his night Wing? Yeah, I know they won't, but
I would love that because he was really good man.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
No, he was I people didn't see that, but it
was fire.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, what say you, Mutch? What are you thinking over there.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
In general? Or about night Wing in general?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You can add you can splatter some night Wing in there.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Let me let me splatter this glitter across the screen
for a second. Here, did you catch the thirty second
from Mars references?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah? Is that supposed to be a I think.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It was very much a Jared Leto, a.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Jared letter dig.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Right, yeah, and is it like a Snyder dig?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Is that what that is too?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I don't think it was a Snyder dig. I think
it was just specifically a Letto because if I'm not mistake,
and there was like some things that Leto said about
about you, I'm not sure I believe, but he said
something about the you know, joker thing. It is what
it is. But yeah, we're.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Talking about being the best joker or whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Something something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
No, he didnt already, so go just yeah, leave it alone, buddy,
see that now.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
It's pretty dope. Side side note, there's a twenty ninety
nine movie coming out on Prime or something like that.
What is it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Like?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
No? No, no, you know how they had twenty forty
nine twenty nine. Yeah, okay, we'll cover that on a
different show sometimes.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, I'm working behind the scenes on that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
But overalls, as it stands right now, episode one of Peacemaker.
I for me, if I had to go out of
five stars, I would give it. I'd give it a
salid four point five being fair, but I would really
like to give it a five.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
But I'm gonna go four point five.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, I mean you can't. You can't do five right
out of the gate. You have nowhere to go away. Yeah,
so you know, I'm sticking with my four. Like I
said earlier, I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Do four too, because I think we're gonna say I
think we're gonna say five once we get the whole season. Yeah,
it's like an unbeat like an undisputable five once we
get the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, unlike that wonderful scene, I'm gonna hold back a
little bit and not you know, go for the never mind.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Don't go for the judge.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, all right, all right, Well I think that's it. Yeah,
we're gonna wrap it up right here, and I want
to say, if you guys enjoyed everything she saw here today,
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Speaker 4 (28:09):
The goal is to put out more relevant and timely
stuff moving forward, so you might catch shorter shows, but
there's going to be more of them, and remember that
we are still available on all podcast platforms. If you're
a little bit on the go like some of us
like to be during the day. Buzz where can we
(28:31):
see you next?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
On me at Instagram at buzz Corpse, and I'll be
at local comic shop day September twenty seventh, the Captain
Blue and Comics in Newark, Delaware.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And uh yeah, I'm loving the new bite sized versions
of what we're doing here.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Or bite size. I was trying to pull a joke
in there, but it just wasn't happening. So, you know,
doing the five meals a day instead of three.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And also, folks, don't forget if you're if you're into
those custom custom art covers that you see is posting
on our socials, that is Buzz sliding his d ms.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Talk to him. You'll hook you out.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Kinds of blanks. I take all kinds of requestions
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That the next time
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