December 2, 2025 • 42 mins
Features, Lance, and Buz dive headfirst into the Stranger Things Season 5 premiere, breaking down the big moments, the surprises, and whatever the hell the Duffers are cooking this time. From monster mayhem to character drama, the guys give their honest thoughts — because subtlety is for people who don’t run a podcast.
They also jump over to Monarch: Legacy of Monsters to talk kaiju chaos, and of course… more Sadie Sink theories, because apparently we’re all just living in the Sadie Sink Extended Universe now.
Drop a comment with your thoughts, tell us what you think Stranger Things is setting up, and don’t forget to like and subscribe before Vecna comes for you.
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They also jump over to Monarch: Legacy of Monsters to talk kaiju chaos, and of course… more Sadie Sink theories, because apparently we’re all just living in the Sadie Sink Extended Universe now.
Drop a comment with your thoughts, tell us what you think Stranger Things is setting up, and don’t forget to like and subscribe before Vecna comes for you.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/that-comic-podcast--5896499/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
God Comic Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, we're back to that comic podcast and you
I am your host, features and now joined with my
lovely co hosts, The One, the Only, the Denizen of Horror,
the hosts of All that comes from the Dark, the Buzzle.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're back.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're still here, and I'm also joined by my one
of my other favorite hosts, Lance Apotamus Cyclops. Come on, man, listen,
everybody's gonna find out next year Cyclops is not sucked.
I'm sure, I'm certain that that that series is going
to be phenomenal, we'll say.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Unfortunately, Yes, he's coming back around again.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, but we're gonna get into stranger things because it's
stranger things and we need to talk about stranger things
to get everything clear and unstrange. And we also have
some news that we're going to go down afterwards, which
we'll be talking about the return of God Dela to
Apple TV, as well as I wanna talk a little
(01:16):
a little theory behind Sadie Sink and this her whoever
she seems to you playing in Spider Man and Doomsday,
because this is I think a point of contention with
a lot of people, but we are going to get
into it and then we are going to start with
Stranger Things, and Lance, I want to ask you to
kick us off with that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
All right, we'll just.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Kind of going to get you know, general vibes. I know,
buzz you you watched all that has been out so far. Yeah,
just kind of how we're feeling about it. Because to me,
it gripped me right away. There's been some times in
the past seasons where I've been on again off again
with Stranger Things, but I stayed up till two in
the morning watching.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This because it hooked me like that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Wow, I'm real excited for what's to come.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So did you binge like all the episodes or did
you stop after like one or two?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh? I went all four? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Four? Right, yeah, back to back.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think it was like four minutes after it debuted
on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I was on it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So the much awaited Stranger Thing season five kicks off,
and I'll say I'm I'm a casual, but I do
know a little a little sublems but it seems like
every season we'll we'll just as an unfortunate run, like
(02:42):
and now we know, like we like the idea is
Vecna is back or is coming back? And they they
they're trying to get rid of him once and for all. Yeah, right,
two point oh, but we we know we know more
now about that, seeing how he was one and I'm
(03:04):
skimming a lot of this right now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
He was one eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
The reason he even ended up in the upside down
was from eleven. But apparently Vekna himself wasn't just an
upside down. He was in a space called Dimension X.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I did see that, Yeah, so likely type place from
where we were gathering at the show.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
But before we get into too many details, buzz did
what did you think of the first four?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
You know, I'm a big fan of the whole franchise.
I kind of always attribute stranger things into igniting fandom again,
you know, not to discount anybody the other franchises that
are huge, but it did something for nostalgia that kind
of hit on all.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Marks for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I mean, you can appeal to a big audience, a
wider audience, not such a specific one. You know you're
gonna do a lot better. And I don't think the
Duffer brothers thought it was going to hit that hard.
And that's why we're here, you know, we're all here
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Being like what's next.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
You know, my my view of the first four episodes,
I mean, I'm back, I'm back in you know, I'm
I was a fan from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know. It does have it.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
It does have its like lulls where things like sort
of peter out a little bit and it gets into
more minute show around human elements that could definitely take
away from like the sci fi stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, but they always bring it back around again, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Like, if you're early into the first four episodes, hang
in there, because I think by the end of the
fourth you're going to be like, oh yeah, like I'm
back into this, and you've got ten years, so you're
not just like racing to the finish line. You've had
ten years of fandom, slow season rollouts, some of the
actors moved on to other things. There's strikes, it's got
(04:53):
to shut down, and so the fact that they're still here.
They could have easily fizzled out and just been like, no,
we're not really gonna do it, you know what I mean.
But they came back, and only in the first four episodes.
You know, they came out bold with like how long
they were going to be and how they were going
to release them. I feel like it's like there, it's
their hurrah moment, you know what I mean, for like
the whole thing you're not gonna get right, It's their
(05:16):
great crescendo moment of like what we kind of thought
they were going to start off and do. I'm not,
by any means like I knew that was gonna happen,
you know what I mean. Like, I think it's pretty cool,
Like I'm back in and you know, for people some
of the complaints I've heard, you know about like the
kids getting older and stuff like that. You know, it's
it's one of those things where it's like, you know,
(05:37):
I could I get that. It kind of almost plays
a little bit like an encore to itself, you know. Yeah,
it took so long, but it's not like too late,
you know what I mean. So they're killing it and
I'm looking I can't wait for Christmas. That's what I'm
looking forward to for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
That's such a long gap. You know, they they had
to know what they had when they were making it.
Like everything is kind of just fitting in right.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Timing is good. That age of the actors is the
right spot.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yeah, it's like working. There's a lot of layers to it,
you know, quite literally. Then the inner relationships between each character.
Characters that you thought were sort of side characters are
now in this run is getting like spotlights, and I
think that that's really cool. You're bringing back people that
people really liked and giving them like more meaning, more value.
(06:25):
I know some of the actors and interviews have been
talking that they felt like it was time to wrap
it up and they weren't really sure, like you know,
what they were gonna do. But as upon reading the
script and like the you know, the warm ups, that
they were all crying and blown away, and I think
that's fuck. That's a hell of a that's a hell
of a statement.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, it does say a lot when when the actors
themselves read the.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Script and go like, oh my goodness, this is phenomenal.
We hear tales of them crying.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's how you know, like it, this has to be good,
Like they've been they've been on this project forever, so
they would know like it has to be good if
they're crying about it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And we're getting like three different season finales. But the
way it's spread out with it being new year's Thanksgiving
and Christmas. My ending of the fourth episode, I was
just like, oh, come on, I have to wait a
month really.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
To it, you know by the way we're spoiling so
you can. You don't have to. You don't have to
sugarcoat it for him. You get spoil away.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So one of the one of the things that really
contributes to this season is the Stranger Things Play for musical.
I'm actually quite sure if it's a musical or not,
but there's some story that really ties into the background
of Henry and Beckner and one and how.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That all really came to be.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
One of the things that they kind of pointed out
was that Henry uh went into the cave and found
technology that he wasn't supposed to find.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
As a younger, and that put him in that.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Dimension x you mentioned and the way that we came back,
and we don't know the entire specifics of how he
came back, when he came back or why, but when
he went to the Rainbow Room, they actually used his
blood to give to the other kids there, and that's
how they started developing powers.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, and I'm not.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Sure if they were actually going to cover that in
the show, but that was something specific to the play.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah, and they've said that's Cannon, right, So yeah, I
believe so they have said that's Cannon.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's no.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It seems, you know, very Duffer Brothers to try to
like overlap media to tell a story kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Like a Kingdom Hearts vibe.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
But you got to you gotta get the PSP version
and the DS version and the PlayStation version.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But you know what, I'm a fan of that kind
of storytelling though, when there is kind of like this
this other thing that gives you a little bit more information.
It is cannon, but it's not part of the main
story because it kind of it lends more to the
lure of what you're watching. And I love things like that.
So this this play be and it be itself being
(09:06):
Cannon and giving you a large kind of like it
seems like it's really like a large backstory of of
Vecna and Henry.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Henry watch it. That's what a name. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
But I I enjoy things like that, and I think
that's one of the one of the one of the
things about stranger things that that keeps people coming back
because you could be like like myself, I I fell off,
I came back on and I fell off, but it
seems like no matter when you come back in, there's
there's always this extra piece of things that that always
(09:40):
attracts you. Like that that type of writing and storytelling.
It's it's so gripping, like you said earlier, So that's
I'm not saying like you haven't watched Stranger Things in
a long time, jump onto the fifth season, but you
know it's it'll still grab you the same way.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And this this kind of ultimate conclusion that the story
is coming to is very gripping in the way that
we see Vecna laying the chess pieces around and you
kind of get the ins and outs and uh and
start seeing inside his mind. And I know we're going
to talk a little bit about Stadie Sink later in
(10:15):
the show, but her development as an actress is shining
on in this show. And you see Max and you
see Holly in this kind of dimension that's like his mind.
And the Duffer Brothers did point out that it was
almost like The Cell with Jennifer Lopez where they go
(10:36):
inside the mind of the serial killer.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That could be the way they ultimately bring Vecna down.
They always excited to see.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
They'll probably have to go after Henry in wherever he's at,
like in that space. Yeah right, you'll find him through
the ways process. But yeah, I mean they're you know,
the characters are evolving so much than from when they started.
You know, they start off as these very innocent, sort
of new bile free, care care free kids, and and
they're now they're becoming like.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Sort of hardened battled warriors.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, the process and uh, you know you got Will
now developing powers, you know that of Vecna, You've got
you know, Max playing around in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
It's almost like the characters have leveled up, like in
Dungeon and Dragons, you know, with experience points and they
get more skills and stuff like that. I mean, yeah, yeah,
I mean that I don't think it's a mistake. I
think that that's kind of like they're they're writing it
from that perspective, and so you're getting like the this
is this quite literally is like the last season for it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, the final battle. Characters are all like mature
and developed.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
And it's time to like you know, go after the
big bad you know, say on his turf too, like
they run away, you know, and like their unity.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
There's a lot of unity in it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
You know, like that the characters are like they're having
these it's always very silly when it's like the most
earth shattering experienced traumatic experience, and then they have like
a heart to heart like yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You know, I like what you said back there.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
It's it's cool because that's you know, that's that ambulance
entertainment that we love from the old the old movies
of the eighties film that in. But yeah, there's it's
a very layered lot going on. You know, I can't
wait for more.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
They're doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Do we have a theory of like how this is
going to end? Because this season really did push the
time travel aspect for the most part. There's a lot
of hints in with the wrinkled in time. They mentioned
the flux capacitor. There's different kind of hints at it,
(12:48):
and I really hope it's it's not this was all
a D and D campaign like the entire time.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's interesting because that do you feel the vibes.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It's possible, man, I mean that's a very never ending
story moment ye where it's like the kid went on
that crazy adventure, you know, all the sad stuff the
epic stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, he's like closing the book, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know what due to the like the eighty style
vibe that that that stranger things gives off. Like if
I had to compare to like two films, like one
being horror and another kind of being like a definitely
sci fi was itary type stuff, it will be like, yes, fantasy,
(13:39):
it will be Freddy. Kind of harder to figure out
which which Freddy movie it would be. And then and
then Harry Potter a little bit, I'm feeling a little
bit of like a mixture of those vibes. One because
you have this this this character that this bad guy
who's lives in another dimension. And then Freddy the his
(14:00):
dimension was the dream world of dreams gape. How do
you beat Freddy? You go to his turf and then
bring him to yours. And that's kind of how I
see this kind of going a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think that's put it that on. Man.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I mean all the like the portals opening up to
the upside down kind of all over now, like it's
like two worlds are so close together, like a locking
mechanism that's reached its point click, it's like and it's
all opening up you know, as Freddy went on, he
was jumping in and out of that stuff all the time,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, ridiculous towards the end.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, don't give me on a tangent or Freddy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, but go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Well, one of the things that I kind of noticed
during watching my rewatch of Stranger Things was specifically the
kids who Bechno was targeting. It's almost like he's making
these kind of apostles for his dimension. But one of
the things I noticed was every kid that he specifically
(15:06):
finds is immersed in some kind of fantasy, like the
kids in the beginning, or playing D and D. You've
got the Wrinkling Time fantasy, You've got the kid who
was in the cafeteria. I believe that was who was
playing his Nintendo games.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Everyone, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That everyone that he spocused on are all immersed in
some kind of fantasy.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, our minds are like more malleable for like impression
and the impression of what Beckna has to put into
you to make you believe that, oh, you know, come
with me, you know it's what is it?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
The mister what's it? Thing?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's which is a spin off and miss
what's it from bringing time right right?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That book was read to me when I was in
fourth grade.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Oh wow, blame I blame it for my like fascinating
like the infinite view of reality.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh yeah, no, I never read The Wrinkling Time. People
on the internets, don't shame.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You want to? It's going to be a movie. Oh sweet,
I'll watched that then.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But like I do, do we think that that that
book or the contents of that book are going to
lead to like other things, like how they actually bring
things to a close?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Like I think so, yeah, probably they were. They were
relying on it heavy. I don't think it's a cop out,
but I think it's a great nod since they do
the nostalgia thing, you know, and that's it's like I
didn't see that coming. And I'm a fan of that
book and I've always been a fan of book since
I was a kid, and I didn't see that coming.
But I'm the same age as the Duffer brothers, so
it makes sense that they would pull that in.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
It is.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's it's the exciting sorry to see all these things
and to theorize all these things.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Is with The Wrinkling Time and the time travel and everything.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But at the end of the last episode when Will
kind of awakens, his powers were very similar to Vecna's
style of powers. But I believe the Duffer Brothers or
something along someone said somewhere that his powers are not
(17:24):
like Eleven's.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They're proximity based. And so.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Seeing that and seeing how he was able to kind
of just control all the Denver Organs and everything, what's
going to happen when he's put in a situation where
he's not in proximity. It feels like the kid from
Game of Thrones the Wolf are not the Wolf the raven.
I don't guess watched that or not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, I know he's talking about it. I think it's
Brandon Stark. Brandon Stark became totally Yeah. I think Eleven
and are gonna have to do something together.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I want.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Proximity, I want yeah, Like, I think they're gonna have
to work together. I don't know. I think they're all
gonna have to work together, just like in a Dungeon
of Dragons, you know, maybe a combat adventure like you
know Max from the inside, you know, the other kids
in the physical realm or the upside down, and then
the energy energy workers working together. It's gonna have this
(18:27):
big crescendo moment I'm sure with melting down or separating
Vecna from Henry like Banner from Hawk, Right.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I need more. I'm excited about it.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
The theories are running rampant right now too, Like stuff's
going for and it's cool because it's overpowering, like sort
of the shade that it's getting for coming a little
too late.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You know. I have some good.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Friends that were like, hey, yeah, I didn't like it,
and I'm like, nah, it's a bummer, you know what
I mean, Like, I'm excited. It's cool to see these
character Yeah, it's also it's just cool to see these
characters who started off so meek become so strong and united.
And it's like, as long as that persistence among them
continues to grow, it doesn't break them, then they're gonna
(19:16):
beat it. And it's the light versus dark storyline. You
can't beat that. That's in everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Now, I do have a question, right because I've only
I'm only on a second episode of this other fifth season.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I know you guys have finished.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It, but do they And I'll ask this question for
the people who are probably where I'm at and they
want the spoiler and if you don't, you know, turn
this off right now. But do they fully explain what
Vecna does to Will, like when he first gets into
the upside Down, like they do that weird tentacle thing,
(19:49):
which and he's like, we're gonna do beautiful things together.
And then you know, clearly as you're watching the first
episode and even into the second, you understand like whatever
it was you did, it was it's how he's connected
to the upside Down. It's definitely how he's connected to
them Organs, right, And but like, what was it that
(20:12):
Vecna did to him that that that caused that connection,
Like it was I don't I don't know what he
was stuffing inside his body or is it was the
intention to take over Wiel's body at a later date?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Like that's do they even't talk about that at all?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
They didn't really go into too much detail what happens
between that point and when we see Will kind of awaken.
But one of the things that I've seen theorized about
is that's how he instills the the powers to be
his disciples, that Fos disciples, and that's kind of that process.
(20:48):
You see the kids in the different areas that are
kind of bound to this room.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
That he has, that are all connected by the face.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And it makes me wonder if it's kind of a
hibernation and like birth process.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, it's like it is that they call on it
a hive for sure, and it's probably working from the
He's probably utilizing like their psychic potential life force, right,
you know sometimes it's called.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Like loose energy, you know, it's the will, and so it's.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Like I feel like he's feeding off of that, you
know what I mean, like some kind of black goo. Yeah,
to watch that happen to the kids. Yeah, but I
think he's either like it's like the way we have eleven,
these other kids could probably all potentially be elevens with
like psychic power abilities if they were like trained to
(21:43):
trigger the way that the Rainbow Room kids are. So
you know, he's sort of hive minding all the potential,
like because that's the thing is like the you know,
typically the more creative kid is the one that gets
picked on, right, So the kid that is in the
dream space that can manifest ideas that hasn't an extrapolating
(22:03):
imagination that would be a food source for Vecna if
you were to ask me, you know what I mean,
that's why skipping over people like you know, Steve Harrington
Full life Online, you know, right, So these kids are
like dreamers basically, and it's it's no different. I think
it's no different than the military is now involved in
(22:25):
a heavy way and has been since beginning because they
also use you know, psychic soldiers to product.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Outcomes, and so this is yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I mean, and that's that's a great buzzword for it.
But there's definitely so many years and layers of like
psych soldier super soldier stuff, and not just you know
Steve Rogers like, but the mentalist aspect of things to
be able to witness and and see in the future
so that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You know, okay, it takeover.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So like essentially, like at least with the kids, he's
using their whatever energy they can draw on them or okay,
let me slow down second. Sorry you're you're five, But
but you said some interesting things mentioning the Rainbow room
and then having the kids kind of strung up that way,
(23:18):
and it just the thought that Hitmie was that he
was Vecna himself. Before he was Vecna was the catalyst
for for the the superpowered children, and I'm I'm I'm
gonna go out on a limb here and say, at
some point or some way, somehow, all of those, all
(23:38):
those kids, or just eleven herself, weren't had the ability
to to open up doorways or gateways gaps to the
upside down, So each.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
One having a different skill potential, yeah, all the same,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And that's why he needs the kids, because Vecna's ultimate
goal is to to get into the real world and then.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Run it run.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, it's Freddy, He's taken over, you know what I mean,
They're they're feeding, He's feeding off of the fear. And
that's why you're seeing all these like layover comparisons to
The New Dairy Show and it stuff like that, you know. Yeah,
you know, Stranger Things beat him by a year when
it came to, you know, coming out. So but at
the same time, you know, the Duffers are inspired by
(24:23):
Stephen King for sure. So I think it's starting to
overlap due to iconic similarities of teeth, kids on bicycles, things,
upside down tunnels.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, the brain thing from a wrinkling time is called it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Right, right exactly, So yeah, yeah, I don't think it's
an accident. But I also don't think it's like plagiarism,
you know what I mean. I think it's just like
everything's relative. It's you know, the storylines are relative.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't see much difference in.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Monster Squad and the Goonies, you know what I mean,
Like different motifs, once pirate motif ons a universal monster
motif they can both exist.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Wow, I mean speaking of monsters existing in both. Uh,
there's also there we're beounside of strange things from now
right at this point, but there's there's also now the
return of of a quote unquote Godzilla with the Apple
(25:25):
updating us when the release of a season two of
Monarch right.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
As a prequel as a prequel, Yes, it's going to
take place during the Cold War.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
There's not a whole lot of info about it, but
it's supposed to be a story wrapped around the immersions
of these monsters all right, coming to the world.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, drop a couple Adam bombs, wake up.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
A relic monster beans that you can't handle.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
There's a god Tell outside my window.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
The car alarm right, Hey, there's an earthquake happening.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But they didn't mention it. It's like happening every other
what's going on here? The funny thing about this to
me is, uh, monarch, monarch? And so did did Did
anybody watch the first season?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You did check it out, But I'm here to learn, Okay,
I mean I listened. I Okay. So here's my thing
I with the first season.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I started it, and I'll tell you why I stopped
watching it because they sold us on the idea of
a Godzilla TV show and it had almost zero to
no Godzilla in it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And that's why I fell off a monarch exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
It felt like they were trying to keep the prestige
of the seeing the monsters a prestige, you know, a
sacred thing. They were focusing a lot more on the
human story of it and less on the monsters. And
so when you did see them, you saw like the
pterodacyal creature in the first one that kind of flew
by you kind of get them in glimpses, and it
(27:04):
starves you. And and they they wanted to make you
want more, but it wasn't playing. It was playing a
little slow for what they were optimistic about.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So my thing with that is and I don't know
if you guys. We talked about this a while ago.
I know, me and Menty definitely agreed on some things,
and I'll take his stance that he has on like
Jurassic Park, right, we watched Jurassic Park for the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't really care about the humans so much, just
you know, send them through, send them through the gauntlet
of dinosaurs and how they make it out, that's the
interesting part, right.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But like with Godzilla, I can see how you can
you can, you can starve a little bit, but ultimately
we come to a Godzilla show for Godzilla, and when
you don't give people that, it's just like, what are
you watching this for?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You're gonna Yeah, they're pissed.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, Now, I think that like there is a way
to do that, like for example, with the the very
First got not very first, but the Godzilla, the first
Godzilla remake, that's that's now the franchise version on. In
that first movie, you saw Godzilla, but Godzilla spent a
(28:24):
lot of time swimming from gods and in the cottenent
for the most part, there was a there was a
big fight in the end, and then you saw Gozilla
in first gets out the water and that's and it's
not often in that film, and they hit you with
enough enough content to go like, oh, okay, this is
how this goes.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is how this goes.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I think with Monarch, the struggle with that is that
it is a TV show and not a movie, so like,
you need people to come back, not just keep people's
butts in the seats, you need them to come back
to the show.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And I think that'll be the struggling.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
People aren't anticipating the hour and a half payoff, you know,
if you're not getting a ten hour payoff, right, and
people don't have the attention spans for that quite anymore.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
In a lot of these shows, people had to watch
like twelve seasons of Small Village just to see that.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You get the red and blue blur.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, And here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The first the first Monarch itself was supposed itself is
a prequel, but it's about the actual government agency that finds, locates,
and investigates these monsters. So you would think that we
would get kind of like the origins of all the
different monsters we come and we've come across in the
film so far already, but they didn't do that, So
(29:44):
I think that's what kind of made it like, like.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
What this prequel show is. I think that's exactly what
this is. And and they said White Russell is supposed
to be in it, so I'm not quite sure how
that works out. I don't remember what era of Mond
took place in. I feel like it was pretty close
to present day.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Close to.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think it is actually as close to like around
that that fifties sixty seventies error.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, I think so too terribly.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, not too not too far off. And it's funny.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But I mean I like the fact that, like US
Agent is in there because in the comics, Godzilla has
been going through every universe Marvel DC and he's having
one offs fight different here. So US Agent versus Godzilla,
I'm here for it. Let's see what he does.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
If except a trash candler.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
We know, we know what happened, right, oh man, Okay,
so we're going to We're going to stick with Marble
and then I just want to I want to jump
into to uh a Sadie Sink article.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I just saw.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's pretty much her responding to the rumors about her
being about who she's playing.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Jacket.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But Sadie Sink allegedly and not allegedly.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
But what Sadie Sink says in this article is simply
people have like she's like the rumors and everything started
before she even really knew what was going on, before
she even started filming her part, so everything was just
happening as fast as a blur. But she herself said,
people are speculating a lot of things, and I understand
they they think I'm gonna be this one character.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But the thing they're forgetting about it is like your
hair color can change.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Boom bomb dropped so that it made my mind go off,
and I was like, well, huh, well, who else would
she play that would be in Spider Man four and
in Doomsday like that that would make sense, right.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I still think she's going to be Jane Gray. I'm
not I'm not leaving that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I'm not leaving that at all, But I couldn't think
of who else she might be, like who will be
relevant for Spider Man, for.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
There's so many characters that she could be, you know,
seeing her in this New Stranger Things and just seeing
how much she's progressed as an actress and her face
kind of has changed shape from that, that kind of juvenile.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Look she had before.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yes, and the it's endless opportunities, like you you can
literally put her in any spot and I would be
okay with it.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You know, she's going to be the main character, Like
she's the main character actress. Absolutely everybody thought, you know,
the actress that played eleven was going to blow up
and rightfully so, you know, they were in a ton
of stuff, but you can see the trajectory, you know
what I mean, Like no other Stranger Things kids are
in marble. Yeah, yeah, you know, it takes a lot
(32:48):
to get to that level, and she is exhiltently e
you know, the example that she's doing in this season,
it's it's showing that you.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Know, she could. She's got these whole things.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
So you know, even though the gene Gray typically isn't
the leader of the X Men, and she kind of
is with like the Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Power, yeah, powerful than Magneto, you know, big part of
the story leader.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, you need a young I mean, I know it's
like a whole redhead thing, but like that, other elements
are just as prevalent, you know what I mean Trying
to say basically.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Oh yeah, she expressed how frustrating it is.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
To talk about it make many mistakes, like I know
we don't have a Hawk movie because of that, You
know what I mean, right, keep his mouth shut?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But you know what though her response to that, to
that was was was very effective and it threw me off.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But I still am there thinking that she's Gane. Gray.
But uh, a little while ago, I did see a
rumor it had no legs. It still doesn't that.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Uh, she was cast as Medaline Prior, and we all
you know, came to come to find out that wasn't
really real.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
But I think it needs some thought.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
I don't think anything's not not real until we see
the movie.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You're very correct. We're getting trailer soon, right, Yes, trailer trailer.
So there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
But here's here's the thing, right, I just want to
touch on the possibility of her being Maddelin Prior. Right,
we pretty much know the X Men history, right, what
we don't know is where they're going to start.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
At in the mutant saga. Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We also don't know who the first big bad mutant
might be. Right, But uh, let's say she's Maddeling Prior,
all right, She she can pretend to be Jean Gray
for a few films until we find out she's Maddeling
prior when we find out she's Madeline. Pryor with Villain
(35:03):
is a big part of that storyline that we've kind
of seen a lot of hints at in Deadpool and
a few other films that we might be getting, but
it hasn't happened so far.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Mister Sinister banging yep, because are they still talking about
guy from Breaking Bad playing?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh that was the talk? Yeah, that would be amazing.
When when when when Disney first got Marble?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh yeah that was that was meant as an old rumor? Yeah,
that was old um uh, you know what, that would
be incredible. I think Brian Cranston would knock that roll
out the park, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Really not for nothing.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for
this in the comments, but like the New Mutants movie,
like it had a horror edge to it, and yes,
you know, so like if you go that way with
mister Sinister and you know, Sadie Sink playing Malin.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Like mm hmm, you're picking right back up where that
is maybe left off. I'm sorry. Yeah, Andre Taylor's magic
was fired.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, it would tie in so many things. It would
tie in so many things, and it saves you from
having you Like you can use mister Sinister in the
same way the previous movies used Magneto, like they never
truly beat him and he never truly does anything that
(36:28):
they can't overcome. So you can you can have him
for one or two movies right before you get into
and right before you get into somebody like like Apocalypse
because from Sinister and Sinister has ties to Apocalypse, so
this is he's almost like a gateway villain in this instance.
So that rumor like that again like seeing it was
(36:48):
again fake report, but that rumor made it started.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
The gears turned into my head.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like you know what, it might not have legs because
we don't know anything, but what if?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What if? What if? You can say that with Marvel forever? Right?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah, because that's there they have eighty to ninety years
of legacy of what if they doing it right?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah? And it honestly it leads into so many more stories. Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
And it's it's also how you would get Cable into
the into the MCU. I mean, he's there because of Deadpool,
but now you've got an actual backstory, Like there's there's
so much they can do with that, And it's funny
because like I'm kind of hoping it was true, but
at the same time, I was like, I need I
(37:42):
need more more verification than this.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
It's fun to speculate, you know, it really is, because
the opportunities are endless. And when you see the set
photos that were leaked, you know anything is truly leaked. Yea,
but her hair's covered up, her body is covered up.
You barely see these shoes. That could be a you know,
(38:06):
I misdirect as well.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I mean, she could be anyone from like Jean Gray.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
To yeah, no, that's a thing that.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Black Panther.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Well, I mean maybe, but but you know what, I.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Wouldn't be surprised if she was an X Man though,
because you're getting what Hawk Punisher Spider Man. It's a
little bit like all over the place, So you know,
another all over the place character just kind of goes
with what they've already got going on.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, but there, you know what, there there are so many,
so many of the rumors and leaks that that I
don't think are being put together in a proper order almost,
But I think they all are telling us something which
I would love to get into. But I think that's
going to be another show, another discussion for another time,
(39:08):
because that's going to require.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
A larger, a larger group thing.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Because it's so let me ask you, guys, She's appearing
in Doomsday and in Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Mm hmm I believe so, yes, all.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Right, so that that would lead me more to an
X Man character than a Spider Man character.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Right. The other room for her was being made a Parker,
But I.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
No, I mean, I get that and I see that
as well, But I'm also like, if if she's in
Doomsday too, then I don't know if it would be
a Spider Man character.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Necessarily, right, And That's where I'm at with so I'm like, no,
I still think no previous build up too. Yeah, and
that's why I think it's it's Geen Gray.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
But the again, the the likely not likelihood, but the
probability of it being Madeline prior.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Again, I think opens up way more stories. And I
I mean, as a fan, I like that idea better.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, And and honestly I think it would serve it would
serve the the writers at the in the MCU better
just to have stories. Okay, Now we can play around
with this and the way we can use this, we
can do that. How are we going to put this together?
And it's like we say all the time, there are
so many stories that they can already use.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's it's not it's not the question.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Of of which one, but how do we do it?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know? You know?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
And and we're like I said, we're going to speculate
until the end of our days. But it really gives
us something to look forward to. A lot of this
stuff is is circling around and the age of AI technology,
it's really hard to know what's what now.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Ye, but we're getting the trailer when December ninth.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yes, in the the New Avatar film, we should be
seeing the doomsday trailer.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I believe it is.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
I'm going to be that guy that's in the back
that bought the ticket just for the.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Trailer, the walk right out.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I wonder if they'll get me for that.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're still here, and I'm also joined by my one
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everybody's gonna find out next year Cyclops is not sucked.
I'm sure, I'm certain that that that series is going
to be phenomenal, we'll say.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Unfortunately, Yes, he's coming back around again.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, but we're gonna get into stranger things because it's
stranger things and we need to talk about stranger things
to get everything clear and unstrange. And we also have
some news that we're going to go down afterwards, which
we'll be talking about the return of God Dela to
Apple TV, as well as I wanna talk a little
(01:16):
a little theory behind Sadie Sink and this her whoever
she seems to you playing in Spider Man and Doomsday,
because this is I think a point of contention with
a lot of people, but we are going to get
into it and then we are going to start with
Stranger Things, and Lance, I want to ask you to
kick us off with that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
All right, we'll just.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Kind of going to get you know, general vibes. I know,
buzz you you watched all that has been out so far. Yeah,
just kind of how we're feeling about it. Because to me,
it gripped me right away. There's been some times in
the past seasons where I've been on again off again
with Stranger Things, but I stayed up till two in
the morning watching.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This because it hooked me like that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Wow, I'm real excited for what's to come.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So did you binge like all the episodes or did
you stop after like one or two?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh? I went all four? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Four? Right, yeah, back to back.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think it was like four minutes after it debuted
on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I was on it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So the much awaited Stranger Thing season five kicks off,
and I'll say I'm I'm a casual, but I do
know a little a little sublems but it seems like
every season we'll we'll just as an unfortunate run, like
(02:42):
and now we know, like we like the idea is
Vecna is back or is coming back? And they they
they're trying to get rid of him once and for all. Yeah, right,
two point oh, but we we know we know more
now about that, seeing how he was one and I'm
(03:04):
skimming a lot of this right now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
He was one eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
The reason he even ended up in the upside down
was from eleven. But apparently Vekna himself wasn't just an
upside down. He was in a space called Dimension X.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I did see that, Yeah, so likely type place from
where we were gathering at the show.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
But before we get into too many details, buzz did
what did you think of the first four?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
You know, I'm a big fan of the whole franchise.
I kind of always attribute stranger things into igniting fandom again,
you know, not to discount anybody the other franchises that
are huge, but it did something for nostalgia that kind
of hit on all.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Marks for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I mean, you can appeal to a big audience, a
wider audience, not such a specific one. You know you're
gonna do a lot better. And I don't think the
Duffer brothers thought it was going to hit that hard.
And that's why we're here, you know, we're all here
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Being like what's next.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
You know, my my view of the first four episodes,
I mean, I'm back, I'm back in you know, I'm
I was a fan from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know. It does have it.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
It does have its like lulls where things like sort
of peter out a little bit and it gets into
more minute show around human elements that could definitely take
away from like the sci fi stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, but they always bring it back around again, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Like, if you're early into the first four episodes, hang
in there, because I think by the end of the
fourth you're going to be like, oh yeah, like I'm
back into this, and you've got ten years, so you're
not just like racing to the finish line. You've had
ten years of fandom, slow season rollouts, some of the
actors moved on to other things. There's strikes, it's got
(04:53):
to shut down, and so the fact that they're still here.
They could have easily fizzled out and just been like, no,
we're not really gonna do it, you know what I mean.
But they came back, and only in the first four episodes.
You know, they came out bold with like how long
they were going to be and how they were going
to release them. I feel like it's like there, it's
their hurrah moment, you know what I mean, for like
the whole thing you're not gonna get right, It's their
(05:16):
great crescendo moment of like what we kind of thought
they were going to start off and do. I'm not,
by any means like I knew that was gonna happen,
you know what I mean. Like, I think it's pretty cool,
Like I'm back in and you know, for people some
of the complaints I've heard, you know about like the
kids getting older and stuff like that. You know, it's
it's one of those things where it's like, you know,
(05:37):
I could I get that. It kind of almost plays
a little bit like an encore to itself, you know. Yeah,
it took so long, but it's not like too late,
you know what I mean. So they're killing it and
I'm looking I can't wait for Christmas. That's what I'm
looking forward to for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
That's such a long gap. You know, they they had
to know what they had when they were making it.
Like everything is kind of just fitting in right.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Timing is good. That age of the actors is the
right spot.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yeah, it's like working. There's a lot of layers to it,
you know, quite literally. Then the inner relationships between each character.
Characters that you thought were sort of side characters are
now in this run is getting like spotlights, and I
think that that's really cool. You're bringing back people that
people really liked and giving them like more meaning, more value.
(06:25):
I know some of the actors and interviews have been
talking that they felt like it was time to wrap
it up and they weren't really sure, like you know,
what they were gonna do. But as upon reading the
script and like the you know, the warm ups, that
they were all crying and blown away, and I think
that's fuck. That's a hell of a that's a hell
of a statement.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, it does say a lot when when the actors
themselves read the.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Script and go like, oh my goodness, this is phenomenal.
We hear tales of them crying.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's how you know, like it, this has to be good,
Like they've been they've been on this project forever, so
they would know like it has to be good if
they're crying about it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And we're getting like three different season finales. But the
way it's spread out with it being new year's Thanksgiving
and Christmas. My ending of the fourth episode, I was
just like, oh, come on, I have to wait a
month really.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
To it, you know by the way we're spoiling so
you can. You don't have to. You don't have to
sugarcoat it for him. You get spoil away.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So one of the one of the things that really
contributes to this season is the Stranger Things Play for musical.
I'm actually quite sure if it's a musical or not,
but there's some story that really ties into the background
of Henry and Beckner and one and how.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That all really came to be.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
One of the things that they kind of pointed out
was that Henry uh went into the cave and found
technology that he wasn't supposed to find.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
As a younger, and that put him in that.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Dimension x you mentioned and the way that we came back,
and we don't know the entire specifics of how he
came back, when he came back or why, but when
he went to the Rainbow Room, they actually used his
blood to give to the other kids there, and that's
how they started developing powers.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, and I'm not.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Sure if they were actually going to cover that in
the show, but that was something specific to the play.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah, and they've said that's Cannon, right, So yeah, I
believe so they have said that's Cannon.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's no.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It seems, you know, very Duffer Brothers to try to
like overlap media to tell a story kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Like a Kingdom Hearts vibe.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
But you got to you gotta get the PSP version
and the DS version and the PlayStation version.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But you know what, I'm a fan of that kind
of storytelling though, when there is kind of like this
this other thing that gives you a little bit more information.
It is cannon, but it's not part of the main
story because it kind of it lends more to the
lure of what you're watching. And I love things like that.
So this this play be and it be itself being
(09:06):
Cannon and giving you a large kind of like it
seems like it's really like a large backstory of of
Vecna and Henry.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Henry watch it. That's what a name. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
But I I enjoy things like that, and I think
that's one of the one of the one of the
things about stranger things that that keeps people coming back
because you could be like like myself, I I fell off,
I came back on and I fell off, but it
seems like no matter when you come back in, there's
there's always this extra piece of things that that always
(09:40):
attracts you. Like that that type of writing and storytelling.
It's it's so gripping, like you said earlier, So that's
I'm not saying like you haven't watched Stranger Things in
a long time, jump onto the fifth season, but you
know it's it'll still grab you the same way.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And this this kind of ultimate conclusion that the story
is coming to is very gripping in the way that
we see Vecna laying the chess pieces around and you
kind of get the ins and outs and uh and
start seeing inside his mind. And I know we're going
to talk a little bit about Stadie Sink later in
(10:15):
the show, but her development as an actress is shining
on in this show. And you see Max and you
see Holly in this kind of dimension that's like his mind.
And the Duffer Brothers did point out that it was
almost like The Cell with Jennifer Lopez where they go
(10:36):
inside the mind of the serial killer.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That could be the way they ultimately bring Vecna down.
They always excited to see.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
They'll probably have to go after Henry in wherever he's at,
like in that space. Yeah right, you'll find him through
the ways process. But yeah, I mean they're you know,
the characters are evolving so much than from when they started.
You know, they start off as these very innocent, sort
of new bile free, care care free kids, and and
they're now they're becoming like.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Sort of hardened battled warriors.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, the process and uh, you know you got Will
now developing powers, you know that of Vecna, You've got
you know, Max playing around in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
It's almost like the characters have leveled up, like in
Dungeon and Dragons, you know, with experience points and they
get more skills and stuff like that. I mean, yeah, yeah,
I mean that I don't think it's a mistake. I
think that that's kind of like they're they're writing it
from that perspective, and so you're getting like the this
is this quite literally is like the last season for it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, the final battle. Characters are all like mature
and developed.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
And it's time to like you know, go after the
big bad you know, say on his turf too, like
they run away, you know, and like their unity.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
There's a lot of unity in it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
You know, like that the characters are like they're having
these it's always very silly when it's like the most
earth shattering experienced traumatic experience, and then they have like
a heart to heart like yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You know, I like what you said back there.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
It's it's cool because that's you know, that's that ambulance
entertainment that we love from the old the old movies
of the eighties film that in. But yeah, there's it's
a very layered lot going on. You know, I can't
wait for more.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
They're doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Do we have a theory of like how this is
going to end? Because this season really did push the
time travel aspect for the most part. There's a lot
of hints in with the wrinkled in time. They mentioned
the flux capacitor. There's different kind of hints at it,
(12:48):
and I really hope it's it's not this was all
a D and D campaign like the entire time.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's interesting because that do you feel the vibes.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It's possible, man, I mean that's a very never ending
story moment ye where it's like the kid went on
that crazy adventure, you know, all the sad stuff the
epic stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, he's like closing the book, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know what due to the like the eighty style
vibe that that that stranger things gives off. Like if
I had to compare to like two films, like one
being horror and another kind of being like a definitely
sci fi was itary type stuff, it will be like, yes, fantasy,
(13:39):
it will be Freddy. Kind of harder to figure out
which which Freddy movie it would be. And then and
then Harry Potter a little bit, I'm feeling a little
bit of like a mixture of those vibes. One because
you have this this this character that this bad guy
who's lives in another dimension. And then Freddy the his
(14:00):
dimension was the dream world of dreams gape. How do
you beat Freddy? You go to his turf and then
bring him to yours. And that's kind of how I
see this kind of going a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think that's put it that on. Man.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I mean all the like the portals opening up to
the upside down kind of all over now, like it's
like two worlds are so close together, like a locking
mechanism that's reached its point click, it's like and it's
all opening up you know, as Freddy went on, he
was jumping in and out of that stuff all the time,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, ridiculous towards the end.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, don't give me on a tangent or Freddy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, but go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Well, one of the things that I kind of noticed
during watching my rewatch of Stranger Things was specifically the
kids who Bechno was targeting. It's almost like he's making
these kind of apostles for his dimension. But one of
the things I noticed was every kid that he specifically
(15:06):
finds is immersed in some kind of fantasy, like the
kids in the beginning, or playing D and D. You've
got the Wrinkling Time fantasy, You've got the kid who
was in the cafeteria. I believe that was who was
playing his Nintendo games.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Everyone, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That everyone that he spocused on are all immersed in
some kind of fantasy.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, our minds are like more malleable for like impression
and the impression of what Beckna has to put into
you to make you believe that, oh, you know, come
with me, you know it's what is it?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
The mister what's it? Thing?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's which is a spin off and miss
what's it from bringing time right right?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That book was read to me when I was in
fourth grade.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Oh wow, blame I blame it for my like fascinating
like the infinite view of reality.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh yeah, no, I never read The Wrinkling Time. People
on the internets, don't shame.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You want to? It's going to be a movie. Oh sweet,
I'll watched that then.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But like I do, do we think that that that
book or the contents of that book are going to
lead to like other things, like how they actually bring
things to a close?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Like I think so, yeah, probably they were. They were
relying on it heavy. I don't think it's a cop out,
but I think it's a great nod since they do
the nostalgia thing, you know, and that's it's like I
didn't see that coming. And I'm a fan of that
book and I've always been a fan of book since
I was a kid, and I didn't see that coming.
But I'm the same age as the Duffer brothers, so
it makes sense that they would pull that in.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
It is.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's it's the exciting sorry to see all these things
and to theorize all these things.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Is with The Wrinkling Time and the time travel and everything.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But at the end of the last episode when Will
kind of awakens, his powers were very similar to Vecna's
style of powers. But I believe the Duffer Brothers or
something along someone said somewhere that his powers are not
(17:24):
like Eleven's.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They're proximity based. And so.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Seeing that and seeing how he was able to kind
of just control all the Denver Organs and everything, what's
going to happen when he's put in a situation where
he's not in proximity. It feels like the kid from
Game of Thrones the Wolf are not the Wolf the raven.
I don't guess watched that or not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, I know he's talking about it. I think it's
Brandon Stark. Brandon Stark became totally Yeah. I think Eleven
and are gonna have to do something together.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I want.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Proximity, I want yeah, Like, I think they're gonna have
to work together. I don't know. I think they're all
gonna have to work together, just like in a Dungeon
of Dragons, you know, maybe a combat adventure like you
know Max from the inside, you know, the other kids
in the physical realm or the upside down, and then
the energy energy workers working together. It's gonna have this
(18:27):
big crescendo moment I'm sure with melting down or separating
Vecna from Henry like Banner from Hawk, Right.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I need more. I'm excited about it.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
The theories are running rampant right now too, Like stuff's
going for and it's cool because it's overpowering, like sort
of the shade that it's getting for coming a little
too late.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You know. I have some good.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Friends that were like, hey, yeah, I didn't like it,
and I'm like, nah, it's a bummer, you know what
I mean, Like, I'm excited. It's cool to see these
character Yeah, it's also it's just cool to see these
characters who started off so meek become so strong and united.
And it's like, as long as that persistence among them
continues to grow, it doesn't break them, then they're gonna
(19:16):
beat it. And it's the light versus dark storyline. You
can't beat that. That's in everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Now, I do have a question, right because I've only
I'm only on a second episode of this other fifth season.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I know you guys have finished.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It, but do they And I'll ask this question for
the people who are probably where I'm at and they
want the spoiler and if you don't, you know, turn
this off right now. But do they fully explain what
Vecna does to Will, like when he first gets into
the upside Down, like they do that weird tentacle thing,
(19:49):
which and he's like, we're gonna do beautiful things together.
And then you know, clearly as you're watching the first
episode and even into the second, you understand like whatever
it was you did, it was it's how he's connected
to the upside Down. It's definitely how he's connected to
them Organs, right, And but like, what was it that
(20:12):
Vecna did to him that that that caused that connection,
Like it was I don't I don't know what he
was stuffing inside his body or is it was the
intention to take over Wiel's body at a later date?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Like that's do they even't talk about that at all?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
They didn't really go into too much detail what happens
between that point and when we see Will kind of awaken.
But one of the things that I've seen theorized about
is that's how he instills the the powers to be
his disciples, that Fos disciples, and that's kind of that process.
(20:48):
You see the kids in the different areas that are
kind of bound to this room.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
That he has, that are all connected by the face.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And it makes me wonder if it's kind of a
hibernation and like birth process.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, it's like it is that they call on it
a hive for sure, and it's probably working from the
He's probably utilizing like their psychic potential life force, right,
you know sometimes it's called.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Like loose energy, you know, it's the will, and so it's.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Like I feel like he's feeding off of that, you
know what I mean, like some kind of black goo. Yeah,
to watch that happen to the kids. Yeah, but I
think he's either like it's like the way we have eleven,
these other kids could probably all potentially be elevens with
like psychic power abilities if they were like trained to
(21:43):
trigger the way that the Rainbow Room kids are. So
you know, he's sort of hive minding all the potential,
like because that's the thing is like the you know,
typically the more creative kid is the one that gets
picked on, right, So the kid that is in the
dream space that can manifest ideas that hasn't an extrapolating
(22:03):
imagination that would be a food source for Vecna if
you were to ask me, you know what I mean,
that's why skipping over people like you know, Steve Harrington
Full life Online, you know, right, So these kids are
like dreamers basically, and it's it's no different. I think
it's no different than the military is now involved in
(22:25):
a heavy way and has been since beginning because they
also use you know, psychic soldiers to product.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Outcomes, and so this is yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I mean, and that's that's a great buzzword for it.
But there's definitely so many years and layers of like
psych soldier super soldier stuff, and not just you know
Steve Rogers like, but the mentalist aspect of things to
be able to witness and and see in the future
so that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You know, okay, it takeover.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So like essentially, like at least with the kids, he's
using their whatever energy they can draw on them or okay,
let me slow down second. Sorry you're you're five, But
but you said some interesting things mentioning the Rainbow room
and then having the kids kind of strung up that way,
(23:18):
and it just the thought that Hitmie was that he
was Vecna himself. Before he was Vecna was the catalyst
for for the the superpowered children, and I'm I'm I'm
gonna go out on a limb here and say, at
some point or some way, somehow, all of those, all
(23:38):
those kids, or just eleven herself, weren't had the ability
to to open up doorways or gateways gaps to the
upside down, So each.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
One having a different skill potential, yeah, all the same,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And that's why he needs the kids, because Vecna's ultimate
goal is to to get into the real world and then.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Run it run.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, it's Freddy, He's taken over, you know what I mean,
They're they're feeding, He's feeding off of the fear. And
that's why you're seeing all these like layover comparisons to
The New Dairy Show and it stuff like that, you know. Yeah,
you know, Stranger Things beat him by a year when
it came to, you know, coming out. So but at
the same time, you know, the Duffers are inspired by
(24:23):
Stephen King for sure. So I think it's starting to
overlap due to iconic similarities of teeth, kids on bicycles, things,
upside down tunnels.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, the brain thing from a wrinkling time is called it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Right, right exactly, So yeah, yeah, I don't think it's
an accident. But I also don't think it's like plagiarism,
you know what I mean. I think it's just like
everything's relative. It's you know, the storylines are relative.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't see much difference in.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Monster Squad and the Goonies, you know what I mean,
Like different motifs, once pirate motif ons a universal monster
motif they can both exist.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Wow, I mean speaking of monsters existing in both. Uh,
there's also there we're beounside of strange things from now
right at this point, but there's there's also now the
return of of a quote unquote Godzilla with the Apple
(25:25):
updating us when the release of a season two of
Monarch right.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
As a prequel as a prequel, Yes, it's going to
take place during the Cold War.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
There's not a whole lot of info about it, but
it's supposed to be a story wrapped around the immersions
of these monsters all right, coming to the world.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, drop a couple Adam bombs, wake up.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
A relic monster beans that you can't handle.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
There's a god Tell outside my window.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
The car alarm right, Hey, there's an earthquake happening.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But they didn't mention it. It's like happening every other
what's going on here? The funny thing about this to
me is, uh, monarch, monarch? And so did did Did
anybody watch the first season?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You did check it out, But I'm here to learn, Okay,
I mean I listened. I Okay. So here's my thing
I with the first season.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I started it, and I'll tell you why I stopped
watching it because they sold us on the idea of
a Godzilla TV show and it had almost zero to
no Godzilla in it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And that's why I fell off a monarch exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
It felt like they were trying to keep the prestige
of the seeing the monsters a prestige, you know, a
sacred thing. They were focusing a lot more on the
human story of it and less on the monsters. And
so when you did see them, you saw like the
pterodacyal creature in the first one that kind of flew
by you kind of get them in glimpses, and it
(27:04):
starves you. And and they they wanted to make you
want more, but it wasn't playing. It was playing a
little slow for what they were optimistic about.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So my thing with that is and I don't know
if you guys. We talked about this a while ago.
I know, me and Menty definitely agreed on some things,
and I'll take his stance that he has on like
Jurassic Park, right, we watched Jurassic Park for the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't really care about the humans so much, just
you know, send them through, send them through the gauntlet
of dinosaurs and how they make it out, that's the
interesting part, right.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But like with Godzilla, I can see how you can
you can, you can starve a little bit, but ultimately
we come to a Godzilla show for Godzilla, and when
you don't give people that, it's just like, what are
you watching this for?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You're gonna Yeah, they're pissed.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, Now, I think that like there is a way
to do that, like for example, with the the very
First got not very first, but the Godzilla, the first
Godzilla remake, that's that's now the franchise version on. In
that first movie, you saw Godzilla, but Godzilla spent a
(28:24):
lot of time swimming from gods and in the cottenent
for the most part, there was a there was a
big fight in the end, and then you saw Gozilla
in first gets out the water and that's and it's
not often in that film, and they hit you with
enough enough content to go like, oh, okay, this is
how this goes.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is how this goes.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I think with Monarch, the struggle with that is that
it is a TV show and not a movie, so like,
you need people to come back, not just keep people's
butts in the seats, you need them to come back
to the show.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And I think that'll be the struggling.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
People aren't anticipating the hour and a half payoff, you know,
if you're not getting a ten hour payoff, right, and
people don't have the attention spans for that quite anymore.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
In a lot of these shows, people had to watch
like twelve seasons of Small Village just to see that.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You get the red and blue blur.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, And here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The first the first Monarch itself was supposed itself is
a prequel, but it's about the actual government agency that finds, locates,
and investigates these monsters. So you would think that we
would get kind of like the origins of all the
different monsters we come and we've come across in the
film so far already, but they didn't do that, So
(29:44):
I think that's what kind of made it like, like.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
What this prequel show is. I think that's exactly what
this is. And and they said White Russell is supposed
to be in it, so I'm not quite sure how
that works out. I don't remember what era of Mond
took place in. I feel like it was pretty close
to present day.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Close to.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think it is actually as close to like around
that that fifties sixty seventies error.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, I think so too terribly.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, not too not too far off. And it's funny.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But I mean I like the fact that, like US
Agent is in there because in the comics, Godzilla has
been going through every universe Marvel DC and he's having
one offs fight different here. So US Agent versus Godzilla,
I'm here for it. Let's see what he does.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
If except a trash candler.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
We know, we know what happened, right, oh man, Okay,
so we're going to We're going to stick with Marble
and then I just want to I want to jump
into to uh a Sadie Sink article.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I just saw.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's pretty much her responding to the rumors about her
being about who she's playing.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Jacket.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But Sadie Sink allegedly and not allegedly.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
But what Sadie Sink says in this article is simply
people have like she's like the rumors and everything started
before she even really knew what was going on, before
she even started filming her part, so everything was just
happening as fast as a blur. But she herself said,
people are speculating a lot of things, and I understand
they they think I'm gonna be this one character.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But the thing they're forgetting about it is like your
hair color can change.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Boom bomb dropped so that it made my mind go off,
and I was like, well, huh, well, who else would
she play that would be in Spider Man four and
in Doomsday like that that would make sense, right.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I still think she's going to be Jane Gray. I'm
not I'm not leaving that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I'm not leaving that at all, But I couldn't think
of who else she might be, like who will be
relevant for Spider Man, for.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
There's so many characters that she could be, you know,
seeing her in this New Stranger Things and just seeing
how much she's progressed as an actress and her face
kind of has changed shape from that, that kind of juvenile.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Look she had before.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yes, and the it's endless opportunities, like you you can
literally put her in any spot and I would be
okay with it.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You know, she's going to be the main character, Like
she's the main character actress. Absolutely everybody thought, you know,
the actress that played eleven was going to blow up
and rightfully so, you know, they were in a ton
of stuff, but you can see the trajectory, you know
what I mean, Like no other Stranger Things kids are
in marble. Yeah, yeah, you know, it takes a lot
(32:48):
to get to that level, and she is exhiltently e
you know, the example that she's doing in this season,
it's it's showing that you.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Know, she could. She's got these whole things.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
So you know, even though the gene Gray typically isn't
the leader of the X Men, and she kind of
is with like the Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Power, yeah, powerful than Magneto, you know, big part of
the story leader.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, you need a young I mean, I know it's
like a whole redhead thing, but like that, other elements
are just as prevalent, you know what I mean Trying
to say basically.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Oh yeah, she expressed how frustrating it is.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
To talk about it make many mistakes, like I know
we don't have a Hawk movie because of that, You
know what I mean, right, keep his mouth shut?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But you know what though her response to that, to
that was was was very effective and it threw me off.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But I still am there thinking that she's Gane. Gray.
But uh, a little while ago, I did see a
rumor it had no legs. It still doesn't that.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Uh, she was cast as Medaline Prior, and we all
you know, came to come to find out that wasn't
really real.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
But I think it needs some thought.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
I don't think anything's not not real until we see
the movie.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You're very correct. We're getting trailer soon, right, Yes, trailer trailer.
So there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
But here's here's the thing, right, I just want to
touch on the possibility of her being Maddelin Prior. Right,
we pretty much know the X Men history, right, what
we don't know is where they're going to start.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
At in the mutant saga. Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We also don't know who the first big bad mutant
might be. Right, But uh, let's say she's Maddeling Prior,
all right, She she can pretend to be Jean Gray
for a few films until we find out she's Maddeling
prior when we find out she's Madeline. Pryor with Villain
(35:03):
is a big part of that storyline that we've kind
of seen a lot of hints at in Deadpool and
a few other films that we might be getting, but
it hasn't happened so far.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Mister Sinister banging yep, because are they still talking about
guy from Breaking Bad playing?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh that was the talk? Yeah, that would be amazing.
When when when when Disney first got Marble?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh yeah that was that was meant as an old rumor? Yeah,
that was old um uh, you know what, that would
be incredible. I think Brian Cranston would knock that roll
out the park, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Really not for nothing.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for
this in the comments, but like the New Mutants movie,
like it had a horror edge to it, and yes,
you know, so like if you go that way with
mister Sinister and you know, Sadie Sink playing Malin.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Like mm hmm, you're picking right back up where that
is maybe left off. I'm sorry. Yeah, Andre Taylor's magic
was fired.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, it would tie in so many things. It would
tie in so many things, and it saves you from
having you Like you can use mister Sinister in the
same way the previous movies used Magneto, like they never
truly beat him and he never truly does anything that
(36:28):
they can't overcome. So you can you can have him
for one or two movies right before you get into
and right before you get into somebody like like Apocalypse
because from Sinister and Sinister has ties to Apocalypse, so
this is he's almost like a gateway villain in this instance.
So that rumor like that again like seeing it was
(36:48):
again fake report, but that rumor made it started.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
The gears turned into my head.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like you know what, it might not have legs because
we don't know anything, but what if?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What if? What if? You can say that with Marvel forever? Right?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah, because that's there they have eighty to ninety years
of legacy of what if they doing it right?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah? And it honestly it leads into so many more stories. Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
And it's it's also how you would get Cable into
the into the MCU. I mean, he's there because of Deadpool,
but now you've got an actual backstory, Like there's there's
so much they can do with that, And it's funny
because like I'm kind of hoping it was true, but
at the same time, I was like, I need I
(37:42):
need more more verification than this.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
It's fun to speculate, you know, it really is, because
the opportunities are endless. And when you see the set
photos that were leaked, you know anything is truly leaked. Yea,
but her hair's covered up, her body is covered up.
You barely see these shoes. That could be a you know,
(38:06):
I misdirect as well.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I mean, she could be anyone from like Jean Gray.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
To yeah, no, that's a thing that.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Black Panther.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Well, I mean maybe, but but you know what, I.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Wouldn't be surprised if she was an X Man though,
because you're getting what Hawk Punisher Spider Man. It's a
little bit like all over the place, So you know,
another all over the place character just kind of goes
with what they've already got going on.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, but there, you know what, there there are so many,
so many of the rumors and leaks that that I
don't think are being put together in a proper order almost,
But I think they all are telling us something which
I would love to get into. But I think that's
going to be another show, another discussion for another time,
(39:08):
because that's going to require.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
A larger, a larger group thing.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Because it's so let me ask you, guys, She's appearing
in Doomsday and in Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Mm hmm I believe so, yes, all.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Right, so that that would lead me more to an
X Man character than a Spider Man character.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Right. The other room for her was being made a Parker,
But I.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
No, I mean, I get that and I see that
as well, But I'm also like, if if she's in
Doomsday too, then I don't know if it would be
a Spider Man character.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Necessarily, right, And That's where I'm at with so I'm like, no,
I still think no previous build up too. Yeah, and
that's why I think it's it's Geen Gray.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
But the again, the the likely not likelihood, but the
probability of it being Madeline prior.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Again, I think opens up way more stories. And I
I mean, as a fan, I like that idea better.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, And and honestly I think it would serve it would
serve the the writers at the in the MCU better
just to have stories. Okay, Now we can play around
with this and the way we can use this, we
can do that. How are we going to put this together?
And it's like we say all the time, there are
so many stories that they can already use.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's it's not it's not the question.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Of of which one, but how do we do it?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know? You know?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
And and we're like I said, we're going to speculate
until the end of our days. But it really gives
us something to look forward to. A lot of this
stuff is is circling around and the age of AI technology,
it's really hard to know what's what now.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Ye, but we're getting the trailer when December ninth.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yes, in the the New Avatar film, we should be
seeing the doomsday trailer.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I believe it is.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
I'm going to be that guy that's in the back
that bought the ticket just for the.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Trailer, the walk right out.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I wonder if they'll get me for that.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
But that being said, features.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yes, sir, that thing all right?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Well, you can find us on every social media site
as that comic at that comic podcast on x or Twitter,
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Speaker 1 (41:28):
You can finance at that comic pod.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
But even more importantly, you've watched this video, You've came
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