That Saints Pod 2025 Episode 13

That Saints Pod – Edition 13
The panel is back with plenty to cheer about as the Saints make it two more wins in August! Graham, Ste O, Darren, and Ste B break down a ruthless 54–4 demolition of Huddersfield and a hard-fought 16–10 victory over Hull FC. The lads share their takes on standout performers, key moments, and what these results say about Saints’ form heading into the business end of the season. Plus, there’s plenty of chatter around future recruitment rumours – who could be coming in, and what the squad might look like next year. Whether you’re after analysis, opinion, or just some good Saints banter, this episode has you covered!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, and welcome to that Saints podcast. Well two more
wins up to second of the league. What is going on?
We'll be discussing that of thing Saints in just a minute.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Come on, nice.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Shn head in the corner, Jobby button dock you very
much lack of that sticker?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's going to the screen?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
What's he going for day?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
He's trying to keep the score out.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hello, and I'm Graham Comeliff. And who's with us today?
Well down, Rigby's back from his holidays. Hi, Darren, Hello,
Steve Offers here to put his wary eye over things.
Good evening and Steve beaches with us?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Are you doing your rights back? Been listening to last podcast?
And tell you what would all the what's his name?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Eddy Chalmers? I think he's away again, isn't he? I
think it's Gas is away again. I think it was
Gus who said Riich. I thought was a bit you know,
travel man, travel man Gas Gas claims to be camping.
I think or no one Gas is probably glamping, not camping. Anyway,
We've got a couple of games. Look, last last, last

(01:18):
last show. Before the last two games, you were a
little bit uh puzzled as to where we were going,
and we were going. We had two easy, easy looking
games coming up against Uddersfield Giants and whole FA, which
turned out to be not to to to sort of
two games of two halves as it were, in the
sense that one was as straightforward walkover and one was

(01:39):
a bit a bit different to that. We'll discuss some
of the second. Just looking at the Saint Uddersfield Giants game.
Game switched to the from the Friday to the to
the Sunday afternoon two thirty bright Sunshine Saints fifty two
Huddersfield four. For the facts of the game. Nine try

(02:00):
from the Saints, two from saleor too from Felt too
from Percy Knowles, Low Max and Dagnall, eight goals from
Carl Felts against a loan try from Greenwood. Comfortable win.
Thoughts on that stay.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
We well, this field didn't offer very much, now we're honest,
you know, good not a bitt Warrington couldn't get SATs.
Yeah they weren't. They weren't very good. But it's just
a matter of how many, really, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was? It was a shambles, wasn't it. They were?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it really was. But the most notable thing about
the game was Jack Wells be going back. Yeah, he
was back on the bench, yeh. Which is one of
wells favorite pastimes, putting backs on the bench. But in
this case it was probably just a vibe because he
hasn't played for two months and so it was it
was good to kind of manage his minutes that in
that way. Are we are we.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Worried that he was when he when he first went
out with the opic, they said sixteen weeks and he's
back after eight.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm a bit concerned about that. I would want to
know how it's been. So, yeah, you know, how how
has he come back? Five weeks early? That's that's that's
like a week earlier, two weeks early, it's it's that's
a big junk of time. So I'm hoping that it
doesn't mean that he's got any kind of risk going forward.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well you did, you'd assume that the conditioning staff at
the club okayed it, or that it's certainly the doctor
or the surgeon had okayed it. But it does seem
like the remarkable feat of physicality to get back for
something that should help with be out for four months
into two months, unless he wasn't as bad as first thoughts,
I suppose, But did he look did he look at

(03:34):
sharp on? Did we think he did?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
But he came on and the first thing he did
was like a forty yard take care, so you know
he still had the yeah, the sharpness in his game.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
We know he's a world class player, and I think
I think to have missed the Bizarrely, we've had some
good results when he's been out, and the team has
knitted together very well, I think, which is.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Why, Well it's picking them by half back, Yeah, because
we keep win him and he's there.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But yeah, well I think it's one of them.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Don't make it right, answered, No.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think it's one of them. It's going on right door, tinker, whether,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I think that's his approach, is safe coach a bit
more by luck than judgment. Rather, it's a tricky it's
a tricky one. They played. They've played reasonably well in
the period, but they've not. The only game of any
notes was against League and they lost.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
That and they lost it a lot more comfortably than
the scoreline would tell you.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean this game was was
a nice jolly Sunday afternoon out and I turned to
the bloke in front of me and I thought that
we both thought this looked like a training game. There
wasn't any real commitment from from I thought, from Uddersfield,
and it just looked like this is the next meet.
We'll try this one, we'll try that one. Yeah, there

(04:54):
are too many of these games at the moment.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think, well that's the that's the problem with potentially
going up to fourteen teams a and that they were
going to be having more games like that. But also
it then takes away from the loot fixtures, which I
think this is the third time we played Uddersfield this season,
you know, so it's it's what you'd rather three games
against Huddersfield or you know, two games against But yeah,

(05:20):
I was going back going to the Oddersfield game, sat
on the beach with a nice cocktail, watching Saints on
the phone, so you know, I could only view from
afar as it were.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
But now Southport isn't.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was in blackpools Moreham it was.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
But yeah, like you said before grame, I think it
was just a training session and the Saints, to be fair,
ordersfield of coming to a bit of form recently and
I did think I did think they put up more
of a fight than they did.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think they won the game before we played them. Yeah,
and I thought might be interesting. But at the end
of the day it was. It was essentially a walk over.
And if if Johnny Lomack had kept hold of Joe
green Wood, it would have been a wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
But but you know, fair play to You can only
play what's in front of you. And I thought the
team did a great you know, great defense again and
you know we we showed some great promise and attack
you know, which was which obviously Wellens has alluded to
in his.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Post match.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
After the whole game, saying that, you know, we needed
a reserve game because we've let the players play for
the past couple of weeks. So you've had your fun,
lad to that's it, now stop it.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
But the games.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Jack Wells for being back, gave well Aware a selection
headache for the whole game six days later, and we
can see what he did. Well. He basically he dropped Johnny,
moved everybody up, jacking on the bench.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
On the bench, yeah, which I don't think any of
us are really of where you get to wear with
it is that we got him by played half back
and I can play at nine as well, so in
effect he's an extra forward.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
You can shuffle things about same with Sailor as well,
isn't it in that in that respect too?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
But it was Sailor that that got the UK.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, well I'll come to that. Rather than go through
the we'll go through the facts of the game and
a bit. But the most notable moment for me in
that game against Hull on Friday night was the substitution
of Tristan Sailor, which was roundly booed as from where
I was sitting, did you get the same food? I didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I didn't didn't like it?

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But you know what I felt sorry for for Johnny
Lomax in that because Johnny hadn't done anything wrong and
the fans weren't bowing Johnny Lomax coming on the field,
which he might have took that on the on the
chin that they were booing him, But for me it
wasn't that.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
It was it was you take it off super League's
best player at the moment.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, where he got voted it didn't he from from then,
from this month or last month or whatever it was.
It was like Super Leagu's best player just voted is
being substituted off and I'm just like, what what are
we doing?

Speaker 5 (08:16):
It's again, it's.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's just when you think things are improving.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's one step forward and two steps back all the time.
And it just like, come on, what We've got a solid,
solid team, and yes we have to get well being
there because he is a top quality player and his
best position is at one. But for me, why and
By and the only reason I can think and byrds
for his kicking. That's the only reason I think he's

(08:40):
a But like you said before, sty and By could
be that bench player because he can come on at hooker,
he can come on if we need him at dummy half.
He's that versatility that we probably need on the bench,
but certainly not I don't know why and By is
still getting picked at seven.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Called it the week before that. I would have thought
Mby would have gone to the bench exactly like you said.
And then come on, you know, doing that like like
he was expelling the beginning of the season. That's exactly
how it was, wasn't it. You had Sailor and Johnny
and in the arms and then after so long Clark
he had go off and come on. Why he didn't

(09:21):
reverse that because there was nothing wrong with that particularly
type of shape was that at the beginning of the season,
you know, So I'm surprised.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I don't think he knows his best combination. Wells be
come to that one six and seven, that's fine. I
don't he knows his best combinations. And I think that
the one concert isn't isn't By is there, whatever happens
is getting picked and the rest of them as to
kind of juggle.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
But by all accounts, and this has only come off
social media, and Buys partner or wife, I don't know,
but she had posted something the other day saying it's
been a pleasure Saint Talling's or going to miss Saint
Talents whatever, which then you know, people who follow these
these things go well. And By is going, but there's

(10:09):
no announcement from the club. So if em Buy is
going next season, why we keep on playing.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Whether there's a strong room that he's got. He's got
a job at the time, which.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Is fair enough, but next season we're going to have
Johnny and Sailor there, so make keep them happy, keep
the fans happy keep them on the pitch.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I don't get what by is still there. I just
don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think it is it's because he's kicking game is solid.
I think that's all. I think he's fallen into a
rich seam of luck because as he came in and
we started within one or two games, and and I
can't put my finger he's got he's got to try
and hold against. Ironically, but I can't the season. I

(10:53):
can't put my finger on anything that other than booting
the ball straight up in the air that it's been offered.
And I think that's the tactical plan is playing around
that still.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
But I think these top teams were fasting now three
weeks his limitations a half back will will cost us.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I think, hmm, I think that's the concern. Certainly, it's
my concern. I no problem, no problem.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
I can't understand how we played played the week before
against Duddersfield at such speed and pace and obviously it
came out with absolutely superb when they couldn't get that
sort of momentum this time. I know who adding a
better place than the thandsfield from a league position point
of view, but there was those sorts of errors creeping

(11:44):
in again. Sitting in Warmsley, I think a couple of
beginning of the season we had absolutely shredfuls of those
he's thinking of they're creeping back in. The Other reason
is that is there an anxiety, you know?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I think I think it's when all defense was was
pretty good. I thought I thought that that puts some
extra pressure on us that we didn't get in like
the hodders Field and the cast for games and but
that and that we've got to get round making errs
and dropping the ball when the defense is better we're
playing against because we won't win a carrot if we

(12:18):
can't get around that.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
If you can match the sense physically, I think you're
up all right defensively because they have not got a
lot to sort of go around you, so they try
and come through you. You stand up to that physically,
your chances.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It was an interesting game. It was It finished sixteen ten,
It was eight six and a half time trying the
first half from Morgan, Knowles, trying the second half from
Most and Buy, four goals from Kyle felt against trying
from Martin and Litton, a goal from Hardache and interestingly
one little flash point there. I've got that first try
they scored from Martin and that was the most dubious try.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I watched it back on the TV. It looked
like head contact.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
It looked like saying liver, poor poor refereeing and poor
VR from actually v from because actually it wasn't poor
refereeing technically because he said no try. I want to
have a look at fire playing. Yes, if it was
lead contact, it was a blatant shoulder charge to knock
the ball out and that's it.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
You aren't looking at full speed and see how his
head went backwards and then sort of go back from them.
Well why because look how many times you get sort
of when the balls ripped out on somebody, you know,
they go up against it, and how many times it
must must have been ripped. So it wasn't because of
the ball went basically surely that's the same sort of scenario.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
It shots out in it and backwards backwards.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, which is it was unusual the way because I
thought he's this him in the head. But then when
you're trying to look, you know, from the from the
west west sarvice there with the paupers trying to look
of the big screen, and I just couldn't. I couldn't
see it clearly enough, you know. So, And then I

(14:03):
tried to watch it and I'd still I still couldn't
make my mind up whether it was well.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think it looked worse on the sky broadcast on
the screen in the stadium.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah. From my view, my view from the cell stamps
just just near the director's box was something that one
in it. And I've got and I've got a cushion
on my padded.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
It's not the only you get prone sandwiches brought to.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You if you fresh sushi, you know when they have
the water breaks, you just have prone sandwich breaks. You get,
you get, you get on the plates.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, that would be great if you on hold every
week like it.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It looked it looked like a look like a straight
shoulder charge at the very least. And when I attempted
to wrap and never looked at it at full speed,
you know, a normal speed type of thing, because you
could see it from normal speed done that on all
of the angles was looking at. Yeah, there's there are
some there are some terrible VR decisions. You think football

(15:06):
is bad, you need to come and have a rugby
leagues sometimes because some of the decisions you get.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
And they're taking forever. I think.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
The whole game was it too. I think it was
two hours. Yeah, five past ten, Yeah, five past ten.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
We were walking out thinking the hell, it's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
But that ends up with Robinson. They took a long
long time make a decision, but.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think they've just got it. They to have like
every it's every decision though, isn't it. It's like they're
trying to get every little detail.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Oh did it?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Can we have a look at angle one? Angle two,
angle three, angle four? We still can't see back to
angle one. I can sort of just like just see
first angle is obviously your best angle. Look at it,
make a decision, move on.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
You know what I could never understand. I don't think
I mentioned this years ago when we started doing the
board was ar many times they do that? Yeah, and
the decision made one way or another. And then suddenly
Sky replayed I think, and they showed a different angle.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Will you see exactly why didn't you show the one?
But he scored the try then? Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
He's got to see in this door? I saw Zach
Zach I absolutely stunning match for all bad No no,
I thought he was. He was in everything and I
think without him they would really have well, to be
fair to hold, they were missing as there. Price cart
Right went off after to before minutes nights as well.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't include his goal kicking him back.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
His goal kicking is it's perfect, it's awesome. He's still
going back to the twenty twenty Grand Final when you
missed that as well.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's still a decent player to be there.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think if Price was playing in this game on
for I think we probably would have got beat because
he's a talent and I think he would have ripped
us open in some stages because they were just missing
that bit of a bit of flour whole and just
a bit of like like you will probably shooting through
the line or something like that.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, I think I think my problem with it is
against Qudersfield, moves were on pace was there, it was wow,
this where does this come from? And against against All
we were back to one break in the first half
when no scored is try but that was actually.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
That that was the whole game.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah yeah, and that was a great try and and
and well we'll both played there, I think, and I
think putting the chat that.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Until they get said two or three scores ahead. Say,
it's really anxious about thinking there's a chronic isn't there. Yeah,
And that's when when that goes along longer, that's when
you see those those drop balls. Actually made a note
about fifty minutes we've made eight handling errors on attack

(17:58):
in good positions and they just made hard for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
The difference between the two games is it's a conference thing,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I think he knew they gonna be othersfield, so they're
prepared to try a bit more attack. But all they
are They thought we could be more touch and go
a bit cag so they actually keep it a bit tighter.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's one it's what.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We does, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, it's it's it's a conservatism and almost
a fear in in tactics really yeah. And I think
we've got the players to play expansively, but we don't.
We seem to revert to type when there's a bit
of pressure.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
On the whole.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Hull have turned a corner, haven't they, and Hull the
Hull are a good team, but again, Wellons will be
seeing this game as a top six six team and
we've got to you know, obviously we've got to win
all games, but you know, we will focus on not
doing the fun stuff. And then, like I said before,
it's it's I'm just trying to find the article and

(18:58):
it said after the match, Wellans said it was extremely tough.
We spoke about that in the week because we've come
off a couple of games where we've had some fun,
wrapped up some points and scored some wonderful tries and
that's been great. But I felt, but I really felt,
we needed a game like that tonight, which basically means, right, lads,

(19:19):
stop having your phone, stops going the tries. We're going
to go back to conservative play. And that's that's why
I would.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Not the washing machine.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You're not going to win wolf ball, wolf ball is
it win anything?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
You're not going to win anything because you, like I think,
you know, we've all alluded to our poll screams about
it all the time.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Throw the ball around. We want to see entertainment.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's how leads beat Okay.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Are absolutely.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
In the ball round and all ky I didn't know
what what had it him in that first half because
they played very.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Similarly to to was but we did win that way
on the Wolf. I think, well, have scene that and
try to copy it and stop.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
But the game's moved on though, doesn't it. But it's
not so much the game, it's the players he had.
And Okay, the big down to this game was obviously,
wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Well, it's it's awful to see Dagnall go off, and
hopefully he's not out for too long. But it's then
give well and an excuse. Sailor playing next week, and.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
He's got about jail essentially, which.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Which then back which then baffles me because we've got
Lewis Murphy there and he is an actual win.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
He is actually a winger. So play Lewis Murphy.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Is he fit now?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I think he's still must be close close, don't play.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't think he would anywhere. I think he plays Sailor.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, because he's just to get him in the team.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
But I mean I've always thought, I mean I said
last week the other week that I think Dagon is
going to end up at the center.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
I think a solid center him as well.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Speed and the way you know if you if you look,
and a lot of stuff he does is very personal
person val ask, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
He's not frightened taking into the middle and driving up
against forwards. He's a good as well. It's confident. I
just I just hope the hamstrings don't start going. Yeah,
that's that's that's key.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah. Well Murphy is the classic example there really is.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
When it was turning everything up went on to with
the NRL, and when he.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Was injured all that time, well they did. Yeah, I
don't think he ever played I can't remember anyway. Bizarrely,
on Friday Friday night after the game, we were second
in the league, which.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Is character surprise, and I just applaud the whole fans,
by the way, Oh terrific, because to come over on
a Friday night, there must have been at least fifteen
hundred of them.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Oh how many is that? End all? Three thousand?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
And it was two middle Blox solids and then obviously
someone fifteen hundred. They were cracking turn out that on
a Friday night.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Now they've got a decent team. Yeah, there's always more
chance of that, isn't that when they're getting beat all
the time, tend to engage as much.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Anyway, we did a pollst We did two poles about
to test the optimism or the pessimism of Saints fans
as to how we were going to go in the
next where we'd finished, and how we're going to go
on the next game, because we've we've got some tough
we've got the toughest running. We asked the outside noise.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
The third noise, it said that. We asked them essentially,
we're said to finishing the league tail because we're sort
of going to be going to some from somewhere between
second and fifth or six, you'd think. So we gave
the options the second, third, fourth, or below fourth. Forty
four percent said third. That was the most popular choice.

(22:53):
Only eleven percent thought we finished second, which is probably
about right.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, that was a guy pressing the butt after four guinness.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
That is a long shot. Even though we did as
you said, we did go second. After the whole temporarily,
Wigging took it back off of and then I asked
We asked about the next three games, which are okay,
are Wigging and Lee, none of whom we've beaten for
about one hundred and.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Fifty years, it feels like that.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So we asked how many of those games do people
think we win? Forty eight percent said we only win
one of those games. Seventy percent I think we'll go
win any of those games, it's possible, and optimisms nine
percent said we win.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
All of them.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Have we win all of them, I will eat my hat.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
That's guy's getting all the family to v.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's not gonna happens. It surely I can't see it happening.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I mean, I think the current coaches record against inverted
Commas top sides, which includes k are Wiging and Lee,
is not out of eighteen.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Good Friday last year we beat with him that we
haven't bet any since. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
No, we beat Leeds, but they weren't a top six
seats last season.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So just those those three, okay, one victory in three seasons.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know, but it's been a while and while
while I think it's because when we play play those teams,
we do sort of climb up and start playing a
bit more conservative anxiety and we don't have the tools
to break those teams down playing that way.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
We'll have a look at them and a little bit
just wanted to go through the situation at every other
club is they know who they've got this season, they
know who they've got next season. All the time, all
the deals don't signed up, and we know nothing. We
know absolutely nothing. We've got as I reckon, I had
a little Google today, I reckon, we've got twelve hour

(25:07):
of contract including or No. No one is leaving but
by Bachelor, Belle Hudl, Bennison, Whitley, Syruhn and Sambo, Vaughn, Davis,
Jake Burns are all out of contracts. Well, we don't
know if anybody's resigned yet. We do know that party resigned.

(25:28):
That was that was information last week or the week before.
As far as Wingfield is out of contract but one
year option in favor of the club, the same position
with ta Ritz and the only Ringfield now obviously he's
got an injury, hasn't he? The only the only confirmed
in we've got is Douglas, the young ad from Wigan.

(25:49):
And that's not actually confirm, but it's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't see how he gets in that to you
and everyone's fit No.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
No do I I don't say it, but I think
it's just a swap for.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
First of all, or Robertson's a wing anyway, anything if
he's a winger, we've got We've got Roberts and Belt Douglas.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
We've got back up, and Douglas will have to be
a back up.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Is your place. I'm assuming he's going to place t
writs and position.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But with that not I haven't come through this year,
I would suggest we don't need other winger anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
No, I agree.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I agree because we've got Sailor covered there as well.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I've got Cross and.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
We've got Murphy.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Of course means they're fit, but that's it. But that
makes that an even more strange inverted comma signings if
it's if it's happened, but that's that's it as far
as as far as likely signings are concerned. Rumors just
add an ankle replacement on an ankle surgery.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
So he's got to go on.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think we had a contract, but Papa, he has
been signed and not signed, and he's unofficially.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
We had had a good gamestead.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
That was the downfall for Saints when he got picked
for state of origin I think.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
And then just a little and then played well and
played well well.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
He was probably said to Saints on an extra twenty
grand now and Saints.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Forget that and sort of we've given it to Parsi
and three cottoms.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And then we've got a shed full of rumors which
I'll go through in a second. Matthew sure thinks we're
in for Sylvia Heavili.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah, I think that's a
direct replacement for him By I think so. Yeah, because
he plays nine very small and inefficient way.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, but he's acond, he's thirty two, he's coming over.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Thirty three bad times.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
He's started coming over for the We just kept him
by and some European weekends, which makes.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Me think that when By wanted out, I think and By,
why would you want? Why would you? Why would you
not keep him rather than bringing heavily? There's nothing between him.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
No, I wouldn't have thought so. And there's a couple
of other Shane Wright rumor still is hanging around.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like a that's not really still.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
I didn't even know he was to that a lock
in his thing. And he's been at Saltford for quite
a while.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Wasn't he five years?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Is he under wrong? I think he played again when
we played them at Grand Final. Yeah, I didn't notice him,
to be fair, but Interestingly, Olli Partington has been mentioned.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Do you know what I.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Am We've got two different opinion straight away.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I'm gonna I'm gonna take the girls plead the fifth
positive pillar.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Or positivity pill.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I I quite like Colley Partington and I know he's
a bit of a grub and I know he's from Wigan.
But do you know what if there's an English player,
if we are struggling with cap space with other people
that are signed, because that that could be argument, that
could be a situation. We don't know because we don't

(29:15):
have a freaking Scooby Doo. But if that's a situation,
and I think he's a good replacement for Nose because
he's he's physical and he gets on people's nerves and well,
you know, I I just think, if you know, if
we have to look at an English player so we're
not taking up cap space and all that lot, I

(29:37):
think Olli Partington could be a good replacement for Nose, let's.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Say from the council for the prosecutor.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Lord, I'm not I'm not happy about this at all.
I don't read him particularly. He's not the same type
of player as knows. He's extra, he's not going to
get involved in the the movements that you see the
holes get involved in, probably never going to sprint fifty

(30:05):
yards to score a try like Nosday and it's not
I mean, being the next weeknd player is not a
deal breaker, you know, Sean Long and all that, But
I just don't think he if he's the best we
can do. I think m's struggle him with the caveat
that there probably isn't a player in the English game

(30:26):
who's going to be upbred on Morgan Noles. You'd have
to go big and go and to get some of
the same.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, level, that's that's sort of like my point.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
That sort of falls into Dadden's argument.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
If we've gone out to Australia or New Zealand or
somehow or wherever and going right, can we get to
replace Nose because like you said, we're not going to
replace Knows because there's no one like him.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
He's He's just well, we've got we've got three we've
got If you're replaceing Knowles, Bat and Bell, you've almost
got four players replaced. Because because you need to to
replace Nobles, I'm pretty sure of that bachelor Bell Ago
and who were up to a year ago were first
team of regulars and then you've only got Parting as

(31:10):
a mention. I mean, I know Wingfield has mentioned and
he's been in the squads, but his injury record prevents.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I was rather about Bell at thirteen than than Party two.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Argument.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
That's a great argument. I do like Bell, and you
know he's he does offer that agility, doesn't he.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
But the only thing they can do is such a
amin or camel to mold him into a you know,
the type of player that Morgan Knowles has been over there,
because obviously moderan Knowles was really raw in a few
years back, but well Wolf made him into a battering around,
didn't he.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Also his discipline issues Partington are a concern. Obviously Knowles
is no angel eis a bit grubby, but I think
Partington is a level of grubbiness to Knowles, and that
could have that could cost you, It could go.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Could cross ship because also just galvanize and ruffle them
feathers and get the fans excited because you know, I
don't know what I mean when when I when I
heard about Oli Partins and I'm just thinking I kind
of like that. I do kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
But if he can if the endes can be smoothed
out a bit, maybe it's maybe.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
He is a grub. When he was playing for Wigan,
I hate him, I couldn't stand him.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
But well, that's compulsory, isn't That's the most when you
say that we have another defensive coachy played for Wigan.
He's doing and you've got to you've got must know
him as well because he was so had to be fair.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
But I think a part of my argument is, you know,
if he wasn't good enough for Wigging, why is he
good enough for us? That bothers me about it because
they're fighting and then they fight him off the cattle
and he's a bit of a journeyman as well.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Yeah, good point, good point, But.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Again it comes back to the question of if not him,
then who can we get on the domestic scene is
going to be the right fit.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
There's nothing jumps to my master.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I would rather be got a more of a ball player,
but they're a dying breeds, very few of them. Nose
isn't really that much of a.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Ball better than he was in his younger days, his
first first couple of seasons, but since he when he
was wolfed, he was Morphs.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Not a real loose forward. No, he's got no kicking game.
Look at what where Paul's cat played at thirteen?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah. The other the other left field rumor was Bailey
Syran and who is again another cattle and player, presumably
one to get what they want rid of, otherwise just
to get there deal. So somebody to carry Cursey's bag.
We can't give you any more money.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I've not seen a lot of barely sing, but I've
looked at some of his starts and it's not it's
not great.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well he didn't turn up trees, cattle and no, but
he's not played enough for that.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Whole team is an absolute disgrace this year, isn't it
this year?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Isn't it? Absolutely? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
But it doesn't Maybe he'll raise his game if players
we're looking for better players.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Looking at the British market. I was thinking about this
the other day and I'm thinking, would would you? Actually
British players are achievably obtainable. I'm not talking like not
talking like and getting Mickey Lewis.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
And and like that, not getting the half back you'll
confuse ones.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Like giving giving you Granny an iPhone. I always think
Mike making has a brilliant, good game.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Where fantastic is a fantastic player?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is it wake Field?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Is he a bit too old now?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Top Saints before? Haven't three?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Just thinking would that be the only question? Market?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
That is? And then there's there's there's other ones knocking
about them. There's a lot of leads who signed a
new contract. We were rumored to be after Olroyd all right.
And then there's yeah, I think so there's a couple
of a couple of props at Huddersfield. I think people say, oh,
he's a good and he's a good body. You think
his place with Field on the bottom, in the bottom

(35:13):
of the league, you know, And is it Wilson Wilson
in English? I don't know, But they're nothing better to recruitment.
You've got to be You've got to bring in something
better than what you've got. Yeah, I think it's got
to be the Golden Room. And I don't I'm not
convinced we're doing that well.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I was just I was just trying to find the
player's name because there's another roomor going around that we've
signed Levy Levi Levy.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Edwards from York that was bumbling around about.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
That got reignited a week or so ago. He's a center,
so but I don't know much about him. But again
he's not like, Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I don't think we need a center.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
No, not anymore. Now we've got the Cross as well,
because he's solid. I think I think Cross is a competence.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
And you wouldn't be Robertson. And no, you've also got Dad,
though he is not naturally a center. If you needed
a center, I wouldn't be signing the center.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
No, No, it's tricky, but I throw making in there
anybody else to throw somebody in who's they think him?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
But I think he's just too old.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, so you are like from Laska the prop. Yeah,
he's probably in a long term contract and.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I think it's only this year they put him on
because I think it was up at the end of
this year, but they re signed him.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
What we need to do is whoever's recruiting for Lee Lappards,
we need to get them in and set him in
the totally wicked stadium because the players that they lost
last season, I'm thinking they were.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Going to would have been Chris.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
But I tell you what, some of the players that
they're brought in and you've never never heard of them,
you know something because from the like the you know,
Cook Island somewhere, Pacific Island Islanders. Yeah, and then all
of a sudden it's like from where has he come from?

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
You know?

Speaker 5 (37:19):
And next minute there are sold names testing you know, off,
hangout off.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Hang oy? Is it Louis?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I was playing I think someone?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
But that that's I think that's what At the moment,
we're lacking that bit of excitement of who was signing
and when I'm getting excited about Oli Partington, You're right,
something wrong. There's something drastically wrong, isn't there. You know,
we we we do need that bit of a bum especially,
you know we.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I think I genuinely think we're going to need some
rabbits out of some hats because it's season tickets soon.
And if if we're going in with the likes of
we're bringing in olliparties and shotting rights and to just
replace a couple of thinking, jeez, there's a few season tickets.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Not going to get renew How much effect does that
have though, because well it must a hardcore of fans
you've got and whoever well.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Put it this way, put this way I think it
must have an effect because they do it every year
and they wouldn't do it otherwise, and we didn't have
that effect, so it must have an effect.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Well, we've been shouting about it, haven't we, for you know,
since months and months and months, probably since May. You know,
we've not heard anything May June, July. I'm going to say, now,
I know we're not in September, but we are in
September next year next week. We're in September next month.
Have we renewed the seasons? And so far we've not
signed one player or I do not know of one player,

(38:42):
one single player coming into the club next season.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, we know the twelve leaving.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
We know who's leaving.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
If we've got If.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
We've got twelve leaving, we're in trouble. If we don't care,
if we're not going, don't start recruiting soon. In trouble.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
You're you're on about the leading doing how they've got
these players. And I was thinking, do you remember back
a few years ago when we signed to you Sally Oler,
Oh yeah, and what he brought to the team, And
you think were those types of players? I mean, because
he wasn't sort of what you were class an household
name as such. When he comes, you know, people who

(39:16):
had the bits and bob thing, it was like it
was like.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Like like a Perlini or sign Acond round seen and
those sort of players. It was a great player though.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, going to flip it on the other side, Now,
do you think we've got the household names available, because
I mean, you know, I'm going back to like, let's say,
two thousand and six, and that seems long wether. There's
a long time ago now, isn't it. But you go
back to sex we had Nick Fozzard and Vinnie Anderson.
They couldn't even get in the team. There are reserve players,

(39:46):
and there are two big household names. And especially but now,
and I'm not talking about Saints, I'm talking across the board.
As soon as you start dipping into substitutions and then
you saw you reserve your reserve players. You just don't
like half the other teams like you don't seem to
know with them, and I don't know.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
And that is that across the boat.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
That's probably what it is more than anything else. You know,
the wages as a whole of what players are demanding.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
It's not like Paul, like the Gillette adverts, you know,
like your national national adverts, Like these players were household names,
not just in rugby league, in sports. In sports, we
just don't seem to have that, like Jack Wellesby for instance,
Mickey Lewis, you know, Bev and French that they should
be like all over the place promoting and just none

(40:40):
of that anymore.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Can I said that if you remember not so long ago,
it was was this thing about the Urns getting involved
as much as they wanted to own the old thing.
But if you take the sort of ethoses you've got
to make celebrities. M Gield said the same thing. You've
got to make celebrities and you know, put there, put

(41:01):
your best players front and center and everything and anything
was anybody, but I think a few of them would
at the Wimbledon, weren't there a couple of weeks ago?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
And that was about it, I think. But it comes
down once again to the management of our sports. Yeah,
there's three different bodies and there's still three different bodies
for me, plus throw IMG in there, who were getting
paid fortunes for doing what precisely advising. I believe I
could do it half the price, so they told.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Me it's advisory. And if they say we're going to
have these twelve or these fourteen teams in super League,
there is well, those are the two other two bodies
that you speak about who can say no, no, we're
going to do this because yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
We just said about the season tickets. Then like next
month we're going to all be asked to reno our
season ticket. Well, the same thing happens well who were
going to be playing against, because you know, how can
teams who were coming in whether you know if there's
another two teams coming in and whether that's well for me,
it needs to be three because for me, Sulfur can't

(42:06):
stay there that they've gone. So you've got after it
comes in in the next month. So let's say for
the players have gone, it's going to be Bradford to lose,
and probably your your older or old and one you
know whoever's going to come up.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
The bloody how can they sign anyone players because they
don't even know.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
They don't they don't know till after grand It's no
different than the team's being promoted each year, is it.
They've got no chance they're coming to the well and
the wells dry as everybody. What you're going to do
that that month wouldn't as a Super League club.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
We as a side and in that position were because
we're that far behind any big sort of names of
probably out of the door and already I think you've.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Got to do as a second take club. You want
to be successful, Let's do what Lea did, yes, and
sign the Super League squad while you're still in the championship.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Financial went backwards in there.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Because if you don't do it that way, you're then left,
as you say, no players available, be designed and you've
got to go up anywhere and play the big teams
they're going to beat every week. So you've gotta do
You're gonna go in the championship and and build your
squad early.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
You've got it.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
You've got to be confident because I mean, like I say,
Featherston did that. I think two years ago on London
pitched and so the London came from Noteword and pitched
and to the post. And then the following season I
think Feathers and a bit of financial difficulty because they've
got all these Super le players on contract and they've
got Championship crowds coming in.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Also London could play a season where they knew they're
going down the results were Yeah, there's another farcicle situation.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
It's crazy, I think. I think team teams coming up
after we're protected from allegation. If you're coming up to a.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
So they will be.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's a franchise sort of sort of sort of situation.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
If you're in the top twelve fourteen gone to the gradings,
you should still be in that a year later. Really,
unless you have a sulfur situation where everything everything goes
belly up.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
That is a bizarre situation. I don't know how they're
getting that. They're getting through on loan players, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I think if if Sulford go bump and they can't
complete the fixtures, every other Superlet team will feel the
consequences because Sky will not pay the fee. But I
think there's something like that in the contract with Sky
because they so obviously Sulford don't fulfill the fixtures, Sky

(44:37):
will losing out on.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Because I said that we've paid for exem we will
pay you.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
For X amount of matches and then that's why all
these super Lee clubs like Saints are giving them players
saying you can know players.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
They have lost one match, then play Wakefield, Right, they
have lost one match.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Wakefield will be good in about that.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, because of its different advantages might make six and
seven they arguably the score.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
And I don't know will they because offically couldn't be
something more than forty eight?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Another six debutings this week. Alted it's like they're putt
a different team out every week.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
I feel sorry sorry for the fans. It's just it's awful.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
You need to go back to the championship and just
rebuild that to.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Rebuild, but I know I don't think they can do
it from that stadium.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Well that's another contentious issue.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Yeah, they just need to swap with Solfi City.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
That's been the planners ever for a while. But I
don't know what's what's stopping it.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Make about an eight thousand stadium?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Something makes it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
But the only downside to it is I think he's
parking and around the football ground actually for all eight
thousands and doesn't sem to.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Be well parking. The Willows wasn't any better, was there?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
The road doesn't well park.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
In our stadium.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Now, I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll put a
bridge over a nice link road to the car. Partner's
in the middle of the time multi story.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Oh no, you've not.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Don't park on Tesco, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, he gets stuck for forty minutes after that.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
But I thought of a couple of weeks back, Chris
Radlinsky was on is It All Out Rugby on YouTube's
talking to.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Kyl and the back tennis at the chorus. Is that
what that's got? It's quite Kyle's quite good value, I think,
And do you.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Know what some of these stuff he came out with,
certainly bit about the IMG type of thing where he thought,
you know, when i MG came in, they were, you know,
the massive, massive company, and like he said, they of
dealings with like the rock you know over in the
w W and all that sort of thing, and big
it is. I would have thought that they would have

(46:56):
got you know, so that them involved into helping us
to promote sports and creating these superstars of our players.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
But apparently, I m G. That's not in the remit
that was given. So that's why that's crazy they do.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
The r f L is so backwards.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's why we end up with that will have been
done deliberately the current club onners can hold on to
a bit of power.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yes, yep, yeah, when he's taken over by the n
RL full stop.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So that won't happen because they want to keep the power.
But on the plus, we'll get Brad the back. So yeah, okay,
that's let's forward and speedway trapping and whoever owns.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
It these days?

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Oh no, they've RFL bought it for a couple of million,
did they then sold it back to well, not far
short a couple of million, that's what I bought it for.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Pay five.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Okay. Well, rolling from our our poll, we have two
very good games coming up. Let's have a some predictions
here and I'm gonna I'm gonna go whither.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
You call them good games, fairly terrifying games.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Okay, that's that's a sky point of view, excellent promotional games.
Friday we go to whole k R where our record
is not great recently, and then the Friday after we've
got wigging at home crucial crucial games for our season
and games that fans would say with hand on their heart.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Well, most people in our polls that we win one
out of three exactly in specify which one so how do.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
We how do we fantasy going to whole kr I mean,
obviously we're we're going to. We're gonna have a tens
of the same team we sailor on the wing.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I think their defeat at Leads against Leads shows that
they are a little bit you know, vulnerable and susceptible.
They can be got at. But on the flip side
of that, it probably means that they're going to be
really up for the game on Friday and not not
want to lose again.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
So they could, you know, well, leads paste them out
of that come flying at us, Leads, paste them out
of that game, and with the crowd behind them and
quick play the balls, they were all over the place.
But I think they will get what they want at
Craven Park. They will get the type of game they want.
And I think we're going to I think we're going
to struggle because we we we struggle against decent defenses.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, well put them twice this season. At the first
game it was close on the scoreboard, but they absolutely
dominated us and the second one of the bit is
were thirty points. So it's tough ask.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Do we think we can do it?

Speaker 4 (49:38):
From my point of view right if you look at
it logically, he's that, like Stege just said, I mean, okay,
are going to be up for this because you just
got beaten by leads.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
But they got beaten by leads at all they did,
and we've beaten leads what three times? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:54):
So strangely, so you know there's that sort of in
your back and thinking, well, if you adopt that are
pro watched him? You know, we can throw the ball
about and I think if you're second up the middle
and anything like, you've got no chance with it. And
you've got it, it's got to be a fast pace
because the outcome with us come out as like.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
A steam train, an absolute steam train. Personally, I can't see.
I can't see since winning, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
The next four fixtures We've been building for this all season.
I don't think we'll win.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I think we might, we might get a home win
at the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
No, I think I think, ok, are you're right? You
know what you say? We need to come out all.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Guns players in, but we won't because it's another big
team and you know you sort of optimism comes out.
We can we beat all k R Yes, we can
will we beat them. I don't think we will know.
The following week Wigging at home. I think we'll beat Wigan.
I do think we'll beat Wiggan at home because I

(51:04):
just think we've we've not been that far off Wigan.
We've played them, I think, and I think a home game,
I say, I.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Think of the three games, that's the most winnable one
on current form because it's a it's a derby, so
probably form goes out of the window anyway at all.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I think we played them two weeks ago, French back.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I think that's the less confidence level.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
The way the way I see the next four games,
and I'm jumping ahead because we'll probably cover this in
the next show. Okay, we've got all car away. I
think we'll get beat off the back of that. I
think we'll then beat Wigan because we'll be more galvanized
because we've been by Okay, and we're at home. I
think the fans will raise to it. It will just
be a different occasion and I think.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
We'll beat Lee away. Yeah. I think as we're we're
due to beat Lee.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I think is with Lee are the moments they're very missing? Yeah,
I mean they'll go on three games with absolutely world
pa isn't.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
They And then I think Castleford at the end game
is that that's a that's that's a much given.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
So so we get another four points thirty six six
thirty six.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I think we'll finish fourth fileads have got better fixtures
than us, hunning, we're going to not giving up second
place with the fixtures that they've got, even if we
beat them, I.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Think I think that's going to be the big bonus
for Wigging. Yeah, I think that puts some certainly in
the box box seats. And even though all the have
had a great season and what have you, I think
we're with French back going to be different, different, different different.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Both would give us a home playoff in the first round,
but be against Lee.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I think so that.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Do you know what if if if we come to
playoff time and we get the chance to go and
play Wigging away, I'd love that and Wigan would hate it.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Wigan would hate we have to win.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
A playoff game first to get Yeah, come on, being up.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
To me, I'm a Saints fan and being optimistic.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Where's gas? Yeah? Okay, Well, interesting and interesting months you'll
be like for us and our season is a make
or break for me, because if we don't get in
the top four, I think we struggle to get past
the first playoff game.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
It's gonna be tough if you're playing away that first round,
but not impossible if we're playing Leads Aware for example.
We've beaten them Aware five or six times.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I think that. I think that there are a couple
of other games where the likes of Leads and Lee
and we're going to play each other before the end
of the season as well, so that it's not straight
it's straight straightforward.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Are going to play a Wigan If we don't get six.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Points, we ain't gonna finish in the top three or four.
But we need to win one probably two of those.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
But you think you look at last season when you
know we're sit in a similar sort of position last
year where we were like bloody, I got this coming up,
that coming up as soon as we're at the player
was like a different team.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
So as you're getting knockout roa, yeah, it was like a.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Different different team they were watching. I can't remember we
played in the first game and then we played Warrington.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Was it was it? We lost that.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
War in the first game in the.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Playoffs were played great on that to go straight through
to the the finals and the rest playoffs to get
in there. And we lost to Warrington, but I think.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
That point the game we should have won.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
Actually we should have won that.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
We played really well. Yeah, I was surprised, wasn't we
get quite comfortably by?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
That was the year before when we're away at Catalans
and went in. Yeah. It's really hard from going from
one nil to the Arsenal to the Arum Globe Trotters
in a week, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I just don't see it happening, to be honest, But
stranger things happened. I suppose.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Well, it seems that it's if you can get on
the roll. You look at Leeds the other day against Okay,
but they got on the on the roll. I was like,
Dundon just couldn't get in it, could they?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I know, did he have the ball? Because Leeds hadn't.
They've got a quick game, didn't they? A lot depends
on the referee there for that, I think, And they
got okay, I've got penalives a couple of times for
holding down so and then so suddenly they eated him.
No down but it's it's.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
One of the old things that we banged on from
Tammim audio. He's got to use the bench. He can't
just be leaving players to come on for the last
ten minutes. It's insane because we don't have a sparkling,
you know, sort of attack from a prop point of view.
So you've got to give him a rest. And if
you want them to have a real grunt at things,

(55:40):
you've got to give him a break.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
The problem, Reguard is we're just flogging Warms.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Yeah, he's the player that we get excited about coming
on and we you know, we're absolutely flogging him to death.
And that's that's my favor for the playoffs, that he'll
be bogged.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
And you look at the likes matter leaves who play
eighteen minutes for you. Yeah, but all you need is
for him to get injured and you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
You know what I mean, really, don't get me started
on Georgia Lane. You want slowing down to I don't.
I don't get that at all. But that gives us
another problem because then we then I think he stuttered
this season, and then we second season problem. Then we
then we bring on Barzi for fifteen minutes of the
eighty and I don't understand any of this.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Like a mystery guest for like twenty minutes, has one
carry and sits down again.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
And then and then there's there's there's a there's a
mystery man on the bench, the fourth player on the bench.
They forget about, Oh we're not played him yet, get
him on for the last two minutes. It has anybody
not been on? Yeah, put your hands up. That's what
they're doing when they put their answer that is on
the in the comment in the box, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
There's been a couple of games if we use fifteen players,
and you can't get away with that at this.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Level because you're battered. You're absolutely battered.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
It's just how can you come out with the statement
and say, oh, it's great to see Bell and Bachelor back,
so we can give the lads a break and using
the last week, as we were saying before we on Earth,
Bachelor came on for the last ten minutes and you
were saying.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Bell wasn't there?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Was he as well?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Oh? Well?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Thearing me it all sounds very very very very pessimistic,
but we might get there. Sounds very we've been wrong before.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
We've been wrong before, we are wrong.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, we'll wind it up there and we'll we'll see
you in a couple of weeks where we might have
some interesting matches to report. So thanks to Steve, Yeah,
no problem to stay. Thanks to Dar, no problem, and
thank you very much for listening. And we'll see in
a couple of weeks. And just remember enjoy your league
because we do. It could be worse. You could be

(57:46):
a Warrington fan. So we will see

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Walker eight