August 4, 2025 • 17 mins
Wedding couples house gets broken into and their gift money was stolen. Now the bride and groom want more, would you give it? Two junior associates decide to site see instead of attend the event the business sent them on, and misses their flight home. What an episode of Unsolicited Advice you're about to enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to that space. Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's unsolicited advice reporting from somewhere underground wire, laughing ay
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Caleb Salvatore. We're brought to you buy out Lost Streamers
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at the checkout. All right, MIA's back stock call me
on the Red Face of White Suprebacies back. We're unsolicited advice.
She's found a couple stories for us. Well, what do
you have to say about these any prelim any teas here.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
No nothing bad?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, so you.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No trigger warnings this week. The trigger warnings are for me,
not the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But no trigger warnings all right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
First, one says this is on a Facebook post from
an anonymous member. The worst thing we ever did on
Facebook was allow people to post anonymously because it lets
them act like cowards, when the whole point of Facebook
is to.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Own your shit.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Advice wedding gifts. Fifteen years ago, we were invited to
my husband's cousin's wedding at an expensive venue. We were
really struggling at the time. We had done our wedding
at the courthouse, no honeymoon or vacation. To use what
little savings we had to buy a small, beat up
starter home. We attended the wedding and scraped up a
gift of one hundred and seventy five dollars two hundred
(01:55):
and fifty in today's though.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I love how she she rounded up for it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
She accounted for inflation in this like, by the way,
two hundred and fifty hours by today's standards.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It took a while to save it up. That day.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I was going to write a check, but my husband
said to give them cash so they would have it
for the honeymoon. Well, they posted all about their honeymoon
on Facebook, and someone broke into their house stole all
the wedding money that they did not put into the
bank before they before they went stupid. Stop stop posting
about these things. If you've got anything worth stealing is
(02:27):
people don't realize how easy it is for somebody to
get their address. Stop real simple. Don't make a public
Facebook post. Post the honeymoon pictures. After you get back, it,
says they posted about their honeymoon, She contacted me asking
me to rewrite the check. I told her, unfortunately we
(02:48):
had given cash. She told me to give it to
them again. Oh absolutely not, no chance I gave you
the cash. It's not my fault that your fucking shit
got stolen from you, because you were an idiot who
bragged about it on Facebook and evidently didn't even bother
to lock it up in a safe before you left, it, says.
I said that unfortunately we could not. It took us
(03:09):
months to save for that. She said we were stiffing
her on her gift. Oh my god, no, you stiffed yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
By being a dumb ass.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I said I was sorry on what happened and would
attest to her homeowner's insurance the amount I gave. Since
she said I am making she was making a claim.
She told all of the family and friends we gave
her nothing and did not invite us to her kids
baby showers and birthday parties. It's effectively cutting us out
of her life. Our kids go to the same school
and do not even know they're related. Wow, this is
(03:38):
over two over one hundred and seventy five dollars. She's
saying this. She's ruined. She has burned that bridge. Fast forward.
We're doing much better financially now, after years of saving
and sacrifice. We can take vacations and make donations. She
brought this up again to mutual family. Would you give
the money now that you could? Not only would I
(03:58):
not give her the money, I would send her a
Venmo request, you know, for a fee of just the
years of stupidity I've had to put up with her. Look,
I can look, I get it. It's your wedding. You're
you're it's a sour ending to your honeymoon. You're not
in the best of my you're then you're not in
the best of moods. You're probably a little irrational and
(04:21):
emotional given all the things that are going on, this
this emotional roller coaster you just took, so it's reasonable
that you might not say the most rational things that
you might demand somebody give you more cash because you
were an idiot who didn't even bother to lock your
money up before you left on your publicly posted, publicly
shared honeymoon, and somebody found out where you lived and
(04:43):
robbed you. All of that aside, to let this go
on for this many years, to torch that bridge with
a family member, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I would I wouldn't give this person a dime because
giving I'm a dime admits that you were wrong. This
isn't about the money. This is about the principle of
the matter. You admit that you were wrong, and you
weren't wrong. They need to apologize. They need to admit
that they fucked up and try to mend the relationship
(05:17):
with you, not the other way around, because you did
nothing wrong here. You didn't make them act stupid. I
remember one time I wrote a friend at check we
bet five dollars on a baseball game. And it was
a basketball game, and it was just a dumb bet,
and he cashed the check and lost the money, and
he wanted me to write him another check. I told him,
(05:39):
I wrote you a check, you cashed it. It came out
of my account. I wrote him a check as a
joke for five dollars because I wanted to inconvenience him
by making him go to the bank to get five
dollars out, because I was that mad that I lost
the bet and he lost the money. And it was
something similar, but it was obviously not as serious. We
didn't ruin our relationship over that. It was something totally
(06:00):
different that destroyed that friendship, Honori. Anyways, No, you are
not in the wrong here. I would not give them
a dime. What would you say, Miya?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, I wouldn't give them the money back.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The audacity that person never once considered they were wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I would still harbor the resentment, Yeah, but I
wouldn't give them the money back.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
On our honeymoon, we just brought all of it with
us in cash. And I'll tell you what. Flying into
fucking San Francisco with like four grand or the cash
in that town can be a little nerve wracking, just
a little little eh not not good, no fun, given
the fact that it's a crime ridden, communist hell hole. Okay,
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based like the title of the show, all right, am
I the asshole for still getting on a flight home
when my two young coworkers I was traveling with weren't
at the airport yet and we're obviously going to miss it.
(07:26):
I wonder why you picked this one? It says, well,
it'll I'll tell you what it says if it lets
me pull it up right now. It's not letting me
expand the article. Great, I love my fucking piece of
shit iPad Oh, no, I got it. We're good says.
This past week, I was presented with an industry award
(07:48):
in Nashville that an agency partner nominated me for.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I am a director at my company.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
My company decided to send two junior level employees to
the event as well because they thought it would be
a good experience for them.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Specialist who has.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Been with us for a little over a year twenty
five female first job out of college, and a summer
intern twenty one female rising senior. They are not on
my team report up through separate VP, and I have
very limited slash no interaction with them in daily work life.
They were very excited to be going. This was going to.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Because what could go wrong here?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Sending two girls in their early twenties to Nashville for
a work trip. I'm sure a lot of work's gonna
get done on that trip. I'm sure they were very
excited to be going. This was going to be the
specialist first time on a plane. Lots of teams chats
asking what to wear, etc. We were flying. By the way,
what to wear doesn't matter what you wear pants, shirt shorts.
None of that matters. Wear flip flops, go on that
(08:40):
plane barefoot and discuss the TSA. I make a point
to do it every time I fly. It's fucking hilarious.
It's definitely worth it, says. We were flying in Thursday
morning and leaving Friday evening, so it was a very
short trip. But I tried to help share information about
the event, types of attendees, awards was set. Bob, I'm
not reading all this. You don't need that. There's so
(09:00):
much I could say, but I'll try to highlight key points.
The specialists barely made the Thursday morning flight because she
doesn't have a real ID and had to do extra screening.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
She had no idea what a real ID was. Do
I have a real ID? I do?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, she had no It's good because I'm about to
fly in like two weeks and I don't think I'm
gonna have time to get one.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It says she.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Had no idea what a real idea was, the basic
rules of flying, liquid restrictions, et cetera. She was very
upset that they made her throw away some of her
skincare that was over three ounces, which is kind of
a ridiculous rule. But and I acknowledge that it's ridiculous.
I tried to bring spray on sunscreen in one time
when I flew and they took it from me, And
I'm like, you know, as retarded as that rule is,
(09:43):
it is what it is. I'm the idiot. I'm like,
I'm not going to change the system. I'm the idiot
for not thinking, for flushing my brain down the toilet
when I'm packing, you know, I mean, there's no terrorist
that's going to take over a plane with a can
of sun screen. Although I was very upset because when
I got to the hotel, this was in Vegas. How
(10:03):
much do you think this can of sunscreen was? Any
guess in a Vegas hotel gift shop?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Way more seventeen eighty five dollars or a little. I
did not buy it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I went, I walked my happy ass to CBS across
the street and got one for like six it says,
I pulled her as it says, let's see. Thursday night
event was country western theme and while the majority of
people there were business casual, the intern shows there's no
this is twenty one years old, and they told her
(10:41):
country western theme? What did they think was gonna happen?
In a bandana, tube top, micro skirt, cowboy boots, and
a cowboy hat. I pulled her aside and asked if
she wanted to run upstairs and change since it was
still a business event, and she said she was fine
and she thought she looked cute and on theme. After ceremony,
I invite them to join me with some colleague I
knew from other companies in the hotel bar. But they
(11:03):
tell me they want to check out Broadway. What did
I tell you? What did I tell you? I make
a face and say this would be a good networking opportunity.
They make come on mom jokes, and so I tell
them to be safe and remind them the time and
location of the first session the next day. Text them
around eleven PM that I hope they got back safe.
No response, went to bed. Text them the next morning
(11:24):
offering to meet them for coffee before morning sessions. No response,
No idea if they actually attended any sessions or saw
my panel. But I did find them in the hotel
lobby afterward, looking incredibly hungover. Have about two hours after
event is over and before we need to go to
the airport. I invite them to late lunch with our
agency partners. They declined because they want to go to
(11:44):
the Country Music Hall of Fame again.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, what did I tell you this was not going
to be a work trip. I haven't pre screened to
read any of this. I knew where this was going.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Make a face and say I don't know if they
will have time, and think it would be a good
opportunity for them to spend time with our agency.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They act like I'm the wet blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So I tell them I'm leaving for the airport from
the hotel at four pm sharp and meeting the lobby
so we can share a lift. Text them at three
forty five lifts arriving in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No response. Text them that the lift has arrived and
I'm leaving for the airport. No response.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Text them when I get to the airport, tell them
security line is long, neither head pre check.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
No response.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Text them when I get to the this is I'm
assuming this is a woman who wrote this. She's giving
them way more slack than I would have. They would
have gotten one text, hey, lift us here after that.
It's not my fucking problem. It's twenty twenty five. Text
messages don't just disappear into cyberspace anymore. Like I know
for a fact that you're getting this. Whether you choose
(12:40):
to show up or not as entirely up to you.
She's giving them way more courtesy than I would have, says,
Text them when I get to the gate, please give
me some sign of life interns. Sends very short response.
About ten minutes later. In lift, there's traffic, nothing else.
Text them, flight is starting to board, No response. Text
them when I'm in my seatboarding is about to end.
No response to ours clothes, They don't make it up.
(13:01):
Put my phone on airplane mode. Land a couple hours
later to a barrage detection from them. They're stranded in
NASHVILLELL you guys had such a good time in Nashville
sounds perfect, says they don't know what to do, how
to rebook, who to call for help, etc. I also
have an angry voicemail from the specialist mom that I
abandoned her daughter in Nashville. This is the most stereotypical
(13:22):
gen Z bullshit I've ever read. Totally blow all your
responsibilities off, don't focus at work, work pace for you
to go out there and you do absolutely nothing on
behalf of work. And then, to top it all off,
you have your mother call the person who gave you
way more chances than you deserved after you decided to
take a business trip in bullshit around for a couple
(13:44):
of nights. She's never flown and has anxiety. She's having
a panic attack at the airport and needs medical attention. Also,
she could be human trafficked. Well, because that's how it works,
they just scoop twenty one year old white girls up
at the airport. For those of you that didn't know,
I call specialists and inturn back. Both phones ring, but
neither pick up. Text them to see if they're able
(14:05):
to rebook. No response, Forward them email with our business
travel info with after hours contact, and text them that
I sent the email.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
No response. Maybe they did get trafficked.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Texted an hour later or texted an hour so later
to see if they were okay.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
No response.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Did not call the mom back as you shouldn't have.
Also have a text from their director. Don't know her well,
just started with the company a couple of weeks ago,
asking what's going on? I send her a brief overview
in screenshots all my unanswered texts to them from earlier
in the day, along with the transcript of the voicemail
I got from the mom. She acknowledges my response, no
further dialogue. Now I get an invite for a Monday
morning meeting from that director and their VP and our
(14:38):
C suite leader. My VP is on par PTO. I
feel like these are adults. I was communicative and I'm
ultimately not responsible for this. Yeah, so this is what
happens when companies coddled the week. This is the parents
coddled these people and made life too easy. From the
fact the mom would even call. How the mom get
the number, that's totally inappropriate. Companies are just as guilty
(15:00):
with this, specifically with gen Z employees. Remember what I
told you gen Z kids are either the most driven,
dedicated people you'll ever meet or total emotional basket cases
that should be put in mental institutions, not allowed to vote,
and not allowed to reproduce.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
There is no in between.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
With gen Z, and these companies are a big part
of the problem because they don't want to deal with
the HR headache. There's this bullshit concept that you have
to have three strikes to fire somebody, Hello, sweetheart, you're
in an at will employment state. Just can these fucking
lunatics and they've decided to make so.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I don't feel bad.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
For companies that are dealing with this bullshit. I can't
imagine they're going to fire this woman because a couple
of inturns through a hissy fit and she won an
a war. Now, I would record the entire meeting first
and foremost if I were in a one party state.
And no, absolutely not. This person's not in the wrong.
Like I said, she gave them way more chances than
I would have. You would have gotten one, maybe two
(15:55):
text messages from me. Anything beyond that, It is entirely.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Up to you. It is not.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You are an adult. You want to be treated like
a professional. You're on a professional trip. It is entirely
up to you to get your shit together. This is
not my problem. What do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I agree they should. I mean, yeah, it's Nashville, it's fun,
but you're there for work. Yeah, you're not on a vacation.
If you want to do fun things, take your own vacation.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Right exactly. It's just immaturity is all it is.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I'd also be curious to know if they actually attended
any of all the speakers or panels that they were supposed.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
To guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They didn't, and they're going to try to throw her
under the bus and get her in trouble for this
when she was the only adult in the room, because
again companies have decided to coddle the week. All right,
last one dog is a threat to my marriage. Happily
married to my wife for seventeen years. We have a
three year old adorable Shitsu Bishan mixed named Chloe. Side note, Bashon's.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are not adorable. Impossible.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Wife just admitted to me that she comes downstairs in
the morning, Chloe does her morning greeting stretch. She never
says big stretch like ever. Is this grounds to dissolve
the marriage? Not sure I can continue. Not only is
it grounds to dissolve the marriage, you need to report
your wife to the Humane Society for cruelty to animals
because that is despicable. Big stretch, big stretch. Hopefully the
(17:24):
dog's not afraid of McDonald's toys. Anyway, that has been
our show. We're gonna go watch the King of the
Hill reboot. They're not a sponsor of ours, but you
should go watch him too. We'll see on Wednesday. Good
take bad, take us back. Cheating on your tax is
not your spouse.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I don't know you.
Welcome to that space. Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's unsolicited advice reporting from somewhere underground wire, laughing ay
through the end of day's I'm your host as always,
Caleb Salvatore. We're brought to you buy out Lost Streamers
Live three sixty five, Chris Baker Radio, and of course
Blood of Tyrants Wines. If you got to drink Blood
Tyrants dot Com and you use the promo code based
ba SD like the title of the show, you'll save
ten percent off your order at the checkout. They've got
(00:30):
two types of wine, both red and white, along with
the liquid Freedom energy drink that you see pictured over there.
Drink Blood Tyrants dot Com with the promo code based
saves you ten percent off your order at the checkout
on the only brand of wine to my knowledge, that
has been featured in a Vice News article on domestic
extremism in America. Drink Blood Tyrants dot Com with the
(00:52):
promo code base, You'll save ten percent off your order
at the checkout. All right, MIA's back stock call me
on the Red Face of White Suprebacies back. We're unsolicited advice.
She's found a couple stories for us. Well, what do
you have to say about these any prelim any teas here.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
No nothing bad?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, so you.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No trigger warnings this week. The trigger warnings are for me,
not the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But no trigger warnings all right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
First, one says this is on a Facebook post from
an anonymous member. The worst thing we ever did on
Facebook was allow people to post anonymously because it lets
them act like cowards, when the whole point of Facebook
is to.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Own your shit.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Advice wedding gifts. Fifteen years ago, we were invited to
my husband's cousin's wedding at an expensive venue. We were
really struggling at the time. We had done our wedding
at the courthouse, no honeymoon or vacation. To use what
little savings we had to buy a small, beat up
starter home. We attended the wedding and scraped up a
gift of one hundred and seventy five dollars two hundred
(01:55):
and fifty in today's though.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I love how she she rounded up for it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
She accounted for inflation in this like, by the way,
two hundred and fifty hours by today's standards.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It took a while to save it up. That day.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I was going to write a check, but my husband
said to give them cash so they would have it
for the honeymoon. Well, they posted all about their honeymoon
on Facebook, and someone broke into their house stole all
the wedding money that they did not put into the
bank before they before they went stupid. Stop stop posting
about these things. If you've got anything worth stealing is
(02:27):
people don't realize how easy it is for somebody to
get their address. Stop real simple. Don't make a public
Facebook post. Post the honeymoon pictures. After you get back, it,
says they posted about their honeymoon, She contacted me asking
me to rewrite the check. I told her, unfortunately we
(02:48):
had given cash. She told me to give it to
them again. Oh absolutely not, no chance I gave you
the cash. It's not my fault that your fucking shit
got stolen from you, because you were an idiot who
bragged about it on Facebook and evidently didn't even bother
to lock it up in a safe before you left, it, says.
I said that unfortunately we could not. It took us
(03:09):
months to save for that. She said we were stiffing
her on her gift. Oh my god, no, you stiffed yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
By being a dumb ass.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I said I was sorry on what happened and would
attest to her homeowner's insurance the amount I gave. Since
she said I am making she was making a claim.
She told all of the family and friends we gave
her nothing and did not invite us to her kids
baby showers and birthday parties. It's effectively cutting us out
of her life. Our kids go to the same school
and do not even know they're related. Wow, this is
(03:38):
over two over one hundred and seventy five dollars. She's
saying this. She's ruined. She has burned that bridge. Fast forward.
We're doing much better financially now, after years of saving
and sacrifice. We can take vacations and make donations. She
brought this up again to mutual family. Would you give
the money now that you could? Not only would I
(03:58):
not give her the money, I would send her a
Venmo request, you know, for a fee of just the
years of stupidity I've had to put up with her. Look,
I can look, I get it. It's your wedding. You're
you're it's a sour ending to your honeymoon. You're not
in the best of my you're then you're not in
the best of moods. You're probably a little irrational and
(04:21):
emotional given all the things that are going on, this
this emotional roller coaster you just took, so it's reasonable
that you might not say the most rational things that
you might demand somebody give you more cash because you
were an idiot who didn't even bother to lock your
money up before you left on your publicly posted, publicly
shared honeymoon, and somebody found out where you lived and
(04:43):
robbed you. All of that aside, to let this go
on for this many years, to torch that bridge with
a family member, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I would I wouldn't give this person a dime because
giving I'm a dime admits that you were wrong. This
isn't about the money. This is about the principle of
the matter. You admit that you were wrong, and you
weren't wrong. They need to apologize. They need to admit
that they fucked up and try to mend the relationship
(05:17):
with you, not the other way around, because you did
nothing wrong here. You didn't make them act stupid. I
remember one time I wrote a friend at check we
bet five dollars on a baseball game. And it was
a basketball game, and it was just a dumb bet,
and he cashed the check and lost the money, and
he wanted me to write him another check. I told him,
(05:39):
I wrote you a check, you cashed it. It came out
of my account. I wrote him a check as a
joke for five dollars because I wanted to inconvenience him
by making him go to the bank to get five
dollars out, because I was that mad that I lost
the bet and he lost the money. And it was
something similar, but it was obviously not as serious. We
didn't ruin our relationship over that. It was something totally
(06:00):
different that destroyed that friendship, Honori. Anyways, No, you are
not in the wrong here. I would not give them
a dime. What would you say, Miya?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, I wouldn't give them the money back.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The audacity that person never once considered they were wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I would still harbor the resentment, Yeah, but I
wouldn't give them the money back.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
On our honeymoon, we just brought all of it with
us in cash. And I'll tell you what. Flying into
fucking San Francisco with like four grand or the cash
in that town can be a little nerve wracking, just
a little little eh not not good, no fun, given
the fact that it's a crime ridden, communist hell hole. Okay,
(06:44):
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based like the title of the show, all right, am
I the asshole for still getting on a flight home
when my two young coworkers I was traveling with weren't
at the airport yet and we're obviously going to miss it.
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I wonder why you picked this one? It says, well,
it'll I'll tell you what it says if it lets
me pull it up right now. It's not letting me
expand the article. Great, I love my fucking piece of
shit iPad Oh, no, I got it. We're good says.
This past week, I was presented with an industry award
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in Nashville that an agency partner nominated me for.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I am a director at my company.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
My company decided to send two junior level employees to
the event as well because they thought it would be
a good experience for them.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Specialist who has.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Been with us for a little over a year twenty
five female first job out of college, and a summer
intern twenty one female rising senior. They are not on
my team report up through separate VP, and I have
very limited slash no interaction with them in daily work life.
They were very excited to be going. This was going to.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Because what could go wrong here?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Sending two girls in their early twenties to Nashville for
a work trip. I'm sure a lot of work's gonna
get done on that trip. I'm sure they were very
excited to be going. This was going to be the
specialist first time on a plane. Lots of teams chats
asking what to wear, etc. We were flying. By the way,
what to wear doesn't matter what you wear pants, shirt shorts.
None of that matters. Wear flip flops, go on that
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plane barefoot and discuss the TSA. I make a point
to do it every time I fly. It's fucking hilarious.
It's definitely worth it, says. We were flying in Thursday
morning and leaving Friday evening, so it was a very
short trip. But I tried to help share information about
the event, types of attendees, awards was set. Bob, I'm
not reading all this. You don't need that. There's so
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much I could say, but I'll try to highlight key points.
The specialists barely made the Thursday morning flight because she
doesn't have a real ID and had to do extra screening.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
She had no idea what a real ID was. Do
I have a real ID? I do?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, she had no It's good because I'm about to
fly in like two weeks and I don't think I'm
gonna have time to get one.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It says she.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Had no idea what a real idea was, the basic
rules of flying, liquid restrictions, et cetera. She was very
upset that they made her throw away some of her
skincare that was over three ounces, which is kind of
a ridiculous rule. But and I acknowledge that it's ridiculous.
I tried to bring spray on sunscreen in one time
when I flew and they took it from me, And
I'm like, you know, as retarded as that rule is,
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it is what it is. I'm the idiot. I'm like,
I'm not going to change the system. I'm the idiot
for not thinking, for flushing my brain down the toilet
when I'm packing, you know, I mean, there's no terrorist
that's going to take over a plane with a can
of sun screen. Although I was very upset because when
I got to the hotel, this was in Vegas. How
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much do you think this can of sunscreen was? Any
guess in a Vegas hotel gift shop?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Way more seventeen eighty five dollars or a little. I
did not buy it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I went, I walked my happy ass to CBS across
the street and got one for like six it says,
I pulled her as it says, let's see. Thursday night
event was country western theme and while the majority of
people there were business casual, the intern shows there's no
this is twenty one years old, and they told her
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country western theme? What did they think was gonna happen?
In a bandana, tube top, micro skirt, cowboy boots, and
a cowboy hat. I pulled her aside and asked if
she wanted to run upstairs and change since it was
still a business event, and she said she was fine
and she thought she looked cute and on theme. After ceremony,
I invite them to join me with some colleague I
knew from other companies in the hotel bar. But they
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tell me they want to check out Broadway. What did
I tell you? What did I tell you? I make
a face and say this would be a good networking opportunity.
They make come on mom jokes, and so I tell
them to be safe and remind them the time and
location of the first session the next day. Text them
around eleven PM that I hope they got back safe.
No response, went to bed. Text them the next morning
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offering to meet them for coffee before morning sessions. No response,
No idea if they actually attended any sessions or saw
my panel. But I did find them in the hotel
lobby afterward, looking incredibly hungover. Have about two hours after
event is over and before we need to go to
the airport. I invite them to late lunch with our
agency partners. They declined because they want to go to
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the Country Music Hall of Fame again.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, what did I tell you this was not going
to be a work trip. I haven't pre screened to
read any of this. I knew where this was going.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Make a face and say I don't know if they
will have time, and think it would be a good
opportunity for them to spend time with our agency.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They act like I'm the wet blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So I tell them I'm leaving for the airport from
the hotel at four pm sharp and meeting the lobby
so we can share a lift. Text them at three
forty five lifts arriving in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No response. Text them that the lift has arrived and
I'm leaving for the airport. No response.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Text them when I get to the airport, tell them
security line is long, neither head pre check.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
No response.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Text them when I get to the this is I'm
assuming this is a woman who wrote this. She's giving
them way more slack than I would have. They would
have gotten one text, hey, lift us here after that.
It's not my fucking problem. It's twenty twenty five. Text
messages don't just disappear into cyberspace anymore. Like I know
for a fact that you're getting this. Whether you choose
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to show up or not as entirely up to you.
She's giving them way more courtesy than I would have, says,
Text them when I get to the gate, please give
me some sign of life interns. Sends very short response.
About ten minutes later. In lift, there's traffic, nothing else.
Text them, flight is starting to board, No response. Text
them when I'm in my seatboarding is about to end.
No response to ours clothes, They don't make it up.
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Put my phone on airplane mode. Land a couple hours
later to a barrage detection from them. They're stranded in
NASHVILLELL you guys had such a good time in Nashville
sounds perfect, says they don't know what to do, how
to rebook, who to call for help, etc. I also
have an angry voicemail from the specialist mom that I
abandoned her daughter in Nashville. This is the most stereotypical
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gen Z bullshit I've ever read. Totally blow all your
responsibilities off, don't focus at work, work pace for you
to go out there and you do absolutely nothing on
behalf of work. And then, to top it all off,
you have your mother call the person who gave you
way more chances than you deserved after you decided to
take a business trip in bullshit around for a couple
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of nights. She's never flown and has anxiety. She's having
a panic attack at the airport and needs medical attention. Also,
she could be human trafficked. Well, because that's how it works,
they just scoop twenty one year old white girls up
at the airport. For those of you that didn't know,
I call specialists and inturn back. Both phones ring, but
neither pick up. Text them to see if they're able
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to rebook. No response, Forward them email with our business
travel info with after hours contact, and text them that
I sent the email.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
No response. Maybe they did get trafficked.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Texted an hour later or texted an hour so later
to see if they were okay.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
No response.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Did not call the mom back as you shouldn't have.
Also have a text from their director. Don't know her well,
just started with the company a couple of weeks ago,
asking what's going on? I send her a brief overview
in screenshots all my unanswered texts to them from earlier
in the day, along with the transcript of the voicemail
I got from the mom. She acknowledges my response, no
further dialogue. Now I get an invite for a Monday
morning meeting from that director and their VP and our
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C suite leader. My VP is on par PTO. I
feel like these are adults. I was communicative and I'm
ultimately not responsible for this. Yeah, so this is what
happens when companies coddled the week. This is the parents
coddled these people and made life too easy. From the
fact the mom would even call. How the mom get
the number, that's totally inappropriate. Companies are just as guilty
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with this, specifically with gen Z employees. Remember what I
told you gen Z kids are either the most driven,
dedicated people you'll ever meet or total emotional basket cases
that should be put in mental institutions, not allowed to vote,
and not allowed to reproduce.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
There is no in between.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
With gen Z, and these companies are a big part
of the problem because they don't want to deal with
the HR headache. There's this bullshit concept that you have
to have three strikes to fire somebody, Hello, sweetheart, you're
in an at will employment state. Just can these fucking
lunatics and they've decided to make so.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I don't feel bad.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
For companies that are dealing with this bullshit. I can't
imagine they're going to fire this woman because a couple
of inturns through a hissy fit and she won an
a war. Now, I would record the entire meeting first
and foremost if I were in a one party state.
And no, absolutely not. This person's not in the wrong.
Like I said, she gave them way more chances than
I would have. You would have gotten one, maybe two
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text messages from me. Anything beyond that, It is entirely.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Up to you. It is not.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You are an adult. You want to be treated like
a professional. You're on a professional trip. It is entirely
up to you to get your shit together. This is
not my problem. What do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I agree they should. I mean, yeah, it's Nashville, it's fun,
but you're there for work. Yeah, you're not on a vacation.
If you want to do fun things, take your own vacation.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Right exactly. It's just immaturity is all it is.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I'd also be curious to know if they actually attended
any of all the speakers or panels that they were supposed.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
To guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They didn't, and they're going to try to throw her
under the bus and get her in trouble for this
when she was the only adult in the room, because
again companies have decided to coddle the week. All right,
last one dog is a threat to my marriage. Happily
married to my wife for seventeen years. We have a
three year old adorable Shitsu Bishan mixed named Chloe. Side note, Bashon's.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are not adorable. Impossible.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Wife just admitted to me that she comes downstairs in
the morning, Chloe does her morning greeting stretch. She never
says big stretch like ever. Is this grounds to dissolve
the marriage? Not sure I can continue. Not only is
it grounds to dissolve the marriage, you need to report
your wife to the Humane Society for cruelty to animals
because that is despicable. Big stretch, big stretch. Hopefully the
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dog's not afraid of McDonald's toys. Anyway, that has been
our show. We're gonna go watch the King of the
Hill reboot. They're not a sponsor of ours, but you
should go watch him too. We'll see on Wednesday. Good
take bad, take us back. Cheating on your tax is
not your spouse.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I don't know you.
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