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November 18, 2025 55 mins
Check out this long lost episode of the 70's Buzz Show recorded on cassette by Curtis and Todd in 1977. Listen to what was happening in the greatest decade known to man!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, bussheads, Welcome to the Seventies Buzz Podcast. I'm Curtis Tucker.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
And I'm Todd Wheeler, bringing you our memories or lack thereof,
of growing up in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
We are not a history podcast. We just want you
guys to know that sometimes we get things wrong, and
if you listen to us long enough, you're going to
be screaming at your device trying to give us the
right answers.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Listen up as we recount growing up in the Midwest
and our unique experience. Go to seventies Buzz dot com
from war Info and leave.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Us your thoughts. Let us know if you guys have
any show ideas, if you'd like us to get you
on as an advertiser, and don't forget please leave.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Us reviews on your favorite podcasting apps.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Sorry, but however you have dial it's not in terms
of this time. Somebody else that phone? I know who is,

(01:13):
mister Wheeler. We're back for another exciting episode of the
Seventies Boot Podcast. Hey, you know what for? I forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I saw a thing on Facebook today about telephones and
like when the when they came out the push button telephones?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Huh sixty three.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
They had nine numbers on Remember the other day, I
asked you if you remember.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
That, what's what's the extra number the pound in the star? Oh,
that's right, the pound in the star. That's right. So
they didn't have those. Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I thought I was having a Mandela effect thing,
and I asked you about it here a while back.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
And then anyway, I just wanted to get so I
wonder if those phones are like more valuable. I don't know,
I don't know. Interesting. Do you guys remember anybody out
there remember their nine button phone? Uh? You guys hit
us up at five eight oh five four one three
eighth five or buzz bus hit media dot com. Uh,

(02:15):
get some stuff out of the way. Dave called. Da've called.
He had like zero stuff to say. Yeah, we'll talk
about him on the Buzzhead radio. You guys go to
Buzzhead Radio. And then Steve called for some reason. Oh
there's this stuff. Steve called a couple of times. Yeah,
suggested a opening riff episode.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So like the songs that as soon as you hear
the the beginning, you you know you you know.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
We used to play a game like in the it
was in the eighties nineties where it was probably in
the eighties because there were still popular songs from the
seventies and the eighties playing, And it seems like me
and Tammy used to play it all the time. So
when the radio like, it'd be like we'd see who

(03:08):
could name the song, you know, in the first one
or two notes before even there was any singing. And
it seems like I always creamed her. But I was older,
so I remembered all the seventies songs. But who Tammy
Tammy pass Wander forgot about her my girlfriend back then
at the time. But yeah, but that's so that's kind

(03:29):
of the same deal is we'll have to figure out
how we do that. Thanks for the idea of Steve.
Yeah uh.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
And he mentioned that he has not found Bosehead radio.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, I never thought about that, because he had. We
were going to talk about casinos, and since it was
more of a Buzzhead radio topic, we said, listen to
Bushead radio. So basically, Steve or anybody, if you're listening
to the seventies buzz podcast, you've got to be listening
to us on some kind of platform, on a platform

(04:01):
or an app. Let's say it's Apple, let's say it's Spotify,
let's say it's iHeart. iHeart is actually our top platform. Well,
just when you're done listening to the seventies buzz, go
up to the little spyglass, which is search, and then
type in Buzzhead Radio and the Bushead Radio podcast will
pop up and there's click on it and it'll be

(04:23):
just like the seventies buzz but it'll have all of
our Bushead Radio episodes, so real, really easy to find. Yeah.
He also mentioned playing marbles with Vietnamese refugees. Yeah, he
said that. He said that they came over to the
United States and he went to school with him when

(04:45):
he was young, and they couldn't speak English, but they
would watch he and his buddies playing marbles and they
kind of asked if they could play marbles and he
and his buddy said yeah, and they got their butts kicked.
The refugees took all the marble.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
That was the same time when I Ain't Tron and
hawk Fan came over. Oh, so they were Vietnamese and
that was in the seventies, late seventies, could have been. Yeah,
I sold in my car and they destroyed it.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I remember that that's too funny. Yeah, I bet so. Yeah,
Gretchen call. Gretchen called.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
She did say she also noticed the bad audio a
couple episodes ago, she just didn't want to mention it. Yeah.
And she's on board for our collab with the love
Boat podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
And so I looked that podcast up. Uh huh, and
it's that the Younger Girl.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's oh okay, now I know you're talking to a
little you're really young girl. Yeah, okay. Uh. And I
haven't heard back. I had emailed and said, yes, we
would like to collab. What do you have in mind?
And then I haven't heard back. So as soon as
we hear back, we'll let you guys know. Yeah. Is
that all for phone call? That's all for phone calls,

(05:57):
I think.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Except Steve mentioned that we just barely got the greatest
decade known Tomantham, which we did.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
We got it, but we got it in there. Jeffrey
email today and he says, well, yeah, he says, hello
Jeffrey here, how are you mates doing? It's raining pipe
tales here. And we also had our first frosty Nights.
My neighbor's daughter wrote her first letter last Sunday and

(06:25):
I couldn't be proud of her. And then he says,
I hope you got my last email, but I guess
I didn't, because this is the first email I've gotten
from you in seems like weeks, Jeffrey, So somehow I
missed one, or it didn't come through, or it's in
the spam filter. So resend if you had something important

(06:46):
in that email, and that's why we haven't mentioned you
on the show, because I guess I didn't get it.
And then Jim Hammond, here's something. Because we don't listen
to our own show, we forget things. I forgot we
even did this? What'd we do? He says, I recently
listened to your seventies Prediction episode August twenty twenty and

(07:07):
just realized that the redictions you both make at the
end of the podcast were for the year twenty twenty five.
Oh really, I am recommending that both of you listen
to it and consider doing a follow up segment sometime
before the end of the year. One of many grateful
listeners Jim Hammond West Jordan Utah. So yeah, So basically,

(07:30):
in August of twenty twenty, which was in the thick
of COVID, we did an episode. I can't remember how
what predictions it was, but it was seventies predictions. But
at the end of the show I went and listened
to it. You and I said, well, let's make some
predictions of our own now really and we said okay,

(07:51):
And then we said, well, no, we got to let's
put a timeline on it. We said, well, let's five years.
What do we think is going to be happening in
five years. I wish we had done like a whole
bunch of We only did like three or four, Okay,
And I don't want to tell you why, well, because
I don't know, because we might do something with it.
If we do an episode with it, then everybody's gonna know. Okay,

(08:12):
I'll tell you off air, okay, uh, And people may
want to may go back and listen. But anyway, I'm
not sure we can do a whole episode, and it
might it would probably have to be a Buzzhead radio
episode because none of it has to do with the
seventies because we were it was like real life. We were
like predicting what is really going to happen in our

(08:33):
in real life in five years.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So the show did was seventies buzz about predictions.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, and I can't I for some reason, I have
kind of forgotten how it worked or how we did it.
But yeah, it was about predictions in the seventies. Huh.
I don't know how how we did the subject matter,
but anyway, but yeah, Jim, thanks for that, because completely
I didn't even know we did an episode on predictions,

(08:58):
let alone made five year per addictions. At the end
of the show, I have no idea what it was,
so I'm totally yeah. So okay, anyway, I had to
get anyway in there. Okay, so shall we explain tonight's episode. Yeah,
it was kind of cool. I was going through tapes. Yeah,
and you know, me got all these boxes of cassette tapes.

(09:21):
I found a cassette tape that I had not ever
found before, and I started listening to it and it
was you and me. We recorded a show in nineteen
seventy seven. So basically, what we're gonna do is we're
just going to play that episode from nineteen seventy seven

(09:42):
for you guys, and you guys can giggle at us
and see how goofy we sound back in nineteen seventy seven.
So quality might not be super good. Well, yeah, it's
how old is that?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Seventy seven is almost thirty something years old?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Twenty eight twenty eight years old, twenty eight years old.
So okay, So anyway, I got the cassette here any guys,
surprise it still plays, and I've got cassette player. It
is a General Electric. I think we recorded it on
my old Panasonic. So okay, I don't remember doing this either. Yeah,

(10:18):
so I'm going to push play. And this is Curtis
and Todd at Curtis's house on Broadway in nineteen seventy seven.
Here we go, Hey Todd, what's happening? Hey Curtis? Nothing,
Hey everybody, it is welcome to another episode of the

(10:42):
seventies Buzz Show, where Todd Gilbert and I Curtis Dean
are going to entertain you all night long.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
As Henry said, you don't have to use our middle names.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, but I always call you Gilbert. I've always admired
your middle name, Gilbert.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well you're the only one. Well my parents do, yeah,
they like it so, and I'm named after my mom's father, Hank.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Hank Gilbert and Gilbert Hank Gilbert Todd Gilbert. So if
you guys didn't know Todd's middle names. Gilbert, Yeah they
know that now, Curtis. Okay, good deal. They caught on
real quick. So God, no one's going to hear this, No,
they might. One of these days. These cassettes and these
shows are going to be super famous, and they're going

(11:33):
to be like on a skit on Saturday Night Live.
Oh yeah, we're going to be super famous. I be
all right. Yeah, So tonight's show is from Friday, November eighteenth,
nineteen seventy seven, and we're just gonna basically shoot the
snot if you guys, because we know that we have

(11:54):
like millions of listeners out there. If you guys want
to get in contact with us, send you letters to
nineteen oh two West Broadway En in Oklahoma, seven three,
seven o three. I can't guarantee that we're going to
write you back, but we will read your letter on cassette.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I'm a I'm not a big letter writer.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm not either. I did have pinpal in sixth grade.
Oh yeah, from I'm sure it was well I say,
I'm sure. I'm thinking South Korea and her and I
wrote back and forth for like two or three years.
She used to send me like a little Christmas gifts
and stuff? How do you how do you get a

(12:38):
Our sixth grade teacher, Miss McMillan, had found out, and
so she had everybody in the class write a student
in South Korea, and me and my pin pal just
kept writing after sixth grade. Did you ever get a
picture of her?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, I got it in a box where all my
other stuff is over there, and I've got the little
cute she's cute. Yeah, last year she sent me these
cool little Korean figure. Wouldn't figure things? Huh, I haven't.
I haven't sent her anything. I bet I write her. Oh,
I just didn't know what to send her. Maybe I'll
send her something to this Christmas.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I kind of had a pin pal. You may, I
don't think you knew Cindy Allen. That was that's a bit.
We went to Glenwood together.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
She that sounds familiar.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Her her dad got transferred to Japan, and uh so
we wrote back and forth for a while, and she
would send me coins, but there'd be a little corner
of the Oh so I never got the coins. Oh yeah,
somebody at the air or airport, at the post office.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think I think last year my pin Pal sent
me a Korean bill.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, that would have come through because you can't tell.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
But yeah, it's like they feel, see if.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
There's living around things. Well, maybe it's against the law.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I don't, I don't want it may not have gone
through the whatever the mail goes through. I don't know
what mail goes through. But maybe it was clogging up
the whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh maybe a middle detector or something. Yeah, it could
be no telling.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Uh. So let's talk a little bit about wall or
anything exciting happening at you at Waller today. Did you
eat the Square pizza today? No?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I'm not a big fan of the scrip.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Not a big fan either, but I ate it. I don't.
I wonder why we have to have pizza every freaking Friday.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I guess it's a Friday thing. I guess Friday pizza.
Have I told you about mister Woodridge?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
What now?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, so I have him right before lunch, and so
he takes us to lunch, and so he'll say, you know,
everybody line up, so we all have to. Everybody just
jumps out of their seats and gets behind him, and
then he walks down the hall to the cafeteria. Well,
he walks really slow and you can't pass him, and

(15:05):
so everybody's like pushing each other. And then the guys
start trying to push the guy in front of them
into him, and eventually somebody bumps into him and steps
on the back of his fush and he stops and
he says, who's on my heels? Almost every day? And

(15:26):
we just laugh and we back up and walk another
thirty steps. Who's on my heel? Freaking thirty minutes later
we make it to the cafeteria. He cracks me up.
Uh which effort? Innernight?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Gulash? We had something like that. We had tuna castrole.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, mom makes good gulage.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Connie made tuna castrole, boils up the noodles. Here's my
question for you for Campbell's sous. How come they don't
make cream of nothing soup? Why is it cream of mushrooms?
So every time I eat it, I gotta pull out
the little mushrooms. No, so when I'm done eating, there's

(16:15):
like this little pile of mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
She can use cream of celery. You like celery?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Oh? I hate celler I know, I just kidding. Yuck.
But the best part was the buttered toast. I love
putting the butter on a piece of bread and sticking
it in the toaster oven and it makes the middle
all squishy and buttery.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, we got Mom's got this one tray. It's a big,
old heavy tray and that's what we do, the the
buttered garlic, butter garlic toast. But for some reason it's bent.
So it's like this or the bread the edge of
the bread. Does it toast evenly?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's the way ours is. It's never
never buttered around the edges, but that makes it crunchy. Yeah.
So do we say that we're over at my house
tonight recording our show, Well you can say it again.
So Todd is spending the night and so we're recording

(17:13):
the seventies bus show just for you guys out there
in Nowhere's Land. I guess what we've been up to.
So last weekend we took down the maze at Staton's house. Yeah, yeah,
that's always a little sad. Yeah, I'm glad mister p
let Us keep it up for a couple of weeks
after Halloween to play in it. But I wonder how

(17:37):
many years will we keep doing that? We'll be like
twenty years old, still making the maze and Stateon's garage.
You think so, I don't know. I think so. I
don't don't see why.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
What would occupy our time to do anything else? Kind
of seems like the thing to do.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
One of these days, we'll get a sigle for him.
Oh oh yeah, yeah, I've seen the way you and
Shelley lived at each other.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Hey, now, now talk about Shelley and the gals here
in a sec. Okay, So we got to tell everybody
our Christmas list. I haven't made one. You haven't major
Christmas list yet, dude, it's gonna be Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I need to get the series and Roebuck a couple
of days the Wishbook.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Out and just go into Woolco and jot down stuff
you want.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's easier to do it at the series and row Buck.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, the in the wish book, nineteen Wish book. I
think so. Dang thick. I told my mom I wanted
electric guitar. Oh yeah for Christmas. Now, so everybody out
there and listener land, my birthday is five days before Christmas.

(18:50):
It's always feel like I don't know, I don't know
if it's true or not, but I always feel like
I get rookie dude on the present. It's kind of like,
here's five Christmas presents. Open one of them for your birthday.
I'm like, no, and I don't want it Christmas wrapped.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, that's kind of that's kind of a bummer.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, so electric guitar for my Christmas gift and new
bell bottoms for my birthday.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, and we need to go Cold Irons and get
some new.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Cold Irons has the best Levi's and Simpson's got. Yeah,
they seem like they have more than cowboy jeans over there.
But I'm also gonna ask for another poster to go
with my fair poster from last year hang up on
my Charlie's Angel Farah Wall. Yeah, I want a fair pillow.

(19:49):
Oh yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, maybe I'll get one of them fair of faucet. Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
And if I do get the guitar, Staton and I
are talking about starting a band.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, you know, Mark and I used to play. I know,
I mean Marsha and I took lessons a couple of
years ago. And I thought, because because Mark and I
when we went to go see Kiss and h seventy
last year. It was last year. We went, Uh, it's like,

(20:24):
I a dude, we gotta we gotta start a band. Well,
he says, well, I want to play drums. I said, well,
I'll take guitar lessons. And so Marsha and I she
got a new guitar. And I go over here and
to what's your faces Jensen Music store? I get I
buy a guitar. And the only reason I bought it

(20:45):
is because the salesman said, this is what Elvis started
out on.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh, so I just started on got to have an
Elvis guitar. Wasn't an Elvis guitar is the same as
harmony anyway.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
So but yeah, and so Mark got a little drum
pad and he's beaten on this drump head and all
this stuff, and he gets real good. He takes off
and just leaves me behind. So I was kind of like,
I kind of put it up. I just felt like
I can't keep up.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
But which I name? Maybe I'll start back up? They can. Yeah,
we'll uh, I don't know, we'll form some kind of band.
Stayton's got his electric and his acoustic, so I've been
playing on his electric a little. I think I know
five chords already, So.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Smoke on the Water.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I gotta play Smoke on the Water and play that
funky music wide boy. Speaking of girls, I guess who's
been come over to see my sister Canny? Oh really,
Sandy Daniels, Yeah, and some girl named Tracy. Tracy. They
go to Longfellow Oh yeah, and uh Longfellow. Yeah. But

(21:55):
think of all those girls we're gonna like go to
school with here and a year and a half when
we get to Enid High, the long Fellow girls and
the Emerson girls.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
I don't know what should be worse, maybe.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Be kind of cool. Anyway, so they've been they spend
the night every now and then, which is kind of cool.
How does she know them? I think just going to
some of those weird parties she goes to. Hey, z
it face, Sandy, you know, we ought to hear in
a little while. We ought to go downstairs and pranker.

(22:32):
We can take the little thing out of her I'll
take the speaker thing out of her phone, and if
Sandy calls or something, she won't be able to she
won't be able to talk. Hey, uh, for everybody listening
to the show, we were on boogie Check oh last
week and we recorded it and so we're going to

(22:53):
play that for you guys right now, look at you.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, the Verson two Bully Checks tonight. Yeah, here's the
family edition twenty one, twenty three is the number to call.
Here we go, tell ma'am, will your man be checking?
Is there for me? I was happening now, Curt Nice,
what's happening in Edith Man tonight? And I say, Horty

(23:23):
for one on your man go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I want to step over the south side of the room.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Now. You want to run the program.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
You want to run the program, let.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Me run it. You want me to leave the room,
just wait for a few minutes. Now, they ain't gonna
be no, a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I'll leave for one minute, all right.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I will say nothing bad.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, you better not because if you do, see let
me explain to you.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Now I can leave the room and my vulgarity squelchbox
is set on super sensitive nowadays, after I've been burned.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
A couple of times.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
So if you say something nasty with I'm here or not,
it's gonna is that bit, okay. I will say nothing bad,
all right.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I mean you don't want to be like a fool.
Do you you don't want to hand block a dobby?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Do you go ahead? I'd like to say hello to
jan When and Diana. And since I'm running this program,
I might tell you, Oh, I joke. Now, I guess
I won't do that because Boogie might get mad at
me because he's such a I wouldn't won't do anything
bad to him. Michael, Oh, oh, he's back. Curtis handed

(24:25):
it was perfect? Did you say anything, Nicety?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (24:29):
It was clean? Uh huh. We'll find out in the
long run, won't we Yeah, uh huh. I'll have some
people call me and tell me whether anything that you
said was blanked out or not.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
And if it was, you know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'm gonna tell everybody that Curtison Needa lacks boys.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well what do you think about that? Yeah, Boogie's pretty cool.
I got to run the program. Curtis doesn't lack boys.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I can't believe he said that he had his vulgarity
squelch box turned up to maximum.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That was very cruel. Well, you think anybody else in
the United States of America plays burnout? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I doubt it. So at Waller Junior High we invented
this game we called burnout. We had four four squares
and what we do is we get two guys in
each four square and you basically take a dodgeball and
you throw it into one of the four squares and

(25:40):
it bounces once and one of the two guys in
that four square catches it and throws it.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
To another four square.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
And then when you're ready to do a burnout, one
of the guys will grab the ball and run really
fast and throw it super hard to see if he
can get it past you. And if he does, you're
out and you got to go stand on the line
wait to get back in. And so what's fun is
when two teams start doing a burnout against each other

(26:13):
and it goes for five minutes. But uh, Mark and Kenny,
they're a little bit taller than everybody, they got long arms.
Seems like they win a lot of the time. But
we beat him this morning. That was cool, by golly,
By golly, hey, do you see Hudgison getting that fight
this morning those ninth graders.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, he's getting in the fights all I avoid him as.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Much as fun. Yeah, it's kind of those. I don't
know where those guys are from. They moved to Enid,
I don't know a couple of months ago, and twin
brothers in the ninth grade and Hutchison's out there trying
to fight him. He'd been doing it like almost every
morning this week.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
They don't teachers or principles. I just I can't believe
the principal hadn't come out and broken it up. But
they haven't gotten a fight yet. But they're like nose
to nose every morning. Oh yeah, there's a big old
crowd and big crowd around them. Yeah, I don't know.
Kind of weird. Uh, let's see this weekend, we got
youth group going on with all the girls from Pioneer.

(27:19):
Oh yeah, I think we are planning a retreat in
the spring and we're talking about playing truth or there.
I've never played truth. Well, I haven't neither, but we're
going to this spring when we go on the retreat
to Guthrie. So that ought to.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Be fun at church.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, our church retreats are kind of cool because they
send us with high school. The high school counselor Bible
class or whatever is like our counselors. Yeah, so they
I think they probably like to make out when we

(27:59):
go on the retreat eat, which leaves us all by ourself,
so we so is it no adults? Yeah, but the
adult there's like one adult and it's like this lady
that goes to bed at like six. So she puts
it on the high schoolers to make sure we don't
do anything bad. And it's not really religious. I mean

(28:20):
there's we never have like Bible study and prey.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Or say you should come to my church camp.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah. No, this is more like boy Scouts with girls. Sweet. Yeah,
so looking forward to that. Hey have we doing on time?
It looks like my tape is getting close to the end.
Let me hang on, everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
The other side empty.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yes, I made sure I had a brand new.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Cassette because I hate covering up stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Okay, everybody hang on. Okay, we're back. We are back
for the second half of the show. But you know
we've got to pay the bills around here. Yeah, so
you guys are going to get to hear from our sponsor,

(29:12):
Mother Nature. Mother take it away, Mother Nature. I didn't
know you were so fine on the vine. Well, there's
a lot you don't know. I'll bet you don't know
about this. Oh, come on, that's the stick of my
sweet creamy butter like Chiffon stick Margarine, Chiffon stick Margarine. Right,
Chiffon fooled you. It's not nice to fool mother nature.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
It's butter, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's Chiffon. You like that commercial?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah? Those are Those are funny. Those are funny. They
cracked me out.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
What is margarine anyway?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
I don't know, but we use it a lot.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah. I love the bulls. My mom buys the margarine
in those. That's why I ate my cereal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
And you open up the refrigerator thinking you're getting butter.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
And there's like old spaghetti. Yeah, yeah, she wonders. Why
I keep the bowls in my room. It's so I
don't have spaghetti in them. I bet I've got I
bet you look over there by my bed. I bet
there's fifteen bowls piled over.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, that's pretty nasty.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I didn't even know we had that many spoons. I
bet there's not a spoon down in the kitchen right now.
That's pretty nasty. Dude. You should take those, Hey, you
want to do Jiffy pop later on? Oh, yeah, sure,
once we find I wonder if who's on Don Kirshner tonight,
No idea, we might have to check that out, but
we'll have to make some jiffy pop. I wonder if

(30:43):
Sandy's coming over tonight hanging out with Connie. Hmm, we'll
have to go spy downstairs here in a little while
after our shite. How old is Sandy? She's our age
hanging out with Connie. I guess Connie is just a
year older. Yeah, but and Tracy's our age too. I
don't know how she got hooked up with girls our age.

(31:06):
It had to have been at a party.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Maybe one of these days.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I guess we've got to talk about something newsworthy.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Newsworthy.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, okay, so since we don't really have jobs yet, Hey,
I'm working for my dad. Oh but you were for
your dad. He doesn't like he pays you family pay.
Did you hear about the minimum wage? Get no, President
Carter and those dudes up there in Washington whatever legislator dudes,

(31:44):
they passed some law where they're going to increase the
minimum wage beginning January next year from what it is now,
which is two dollars and thirty cents an hour, it's
going up to two freaking sixty five. Wow. Yeah, and
then future increases. The next year, it's going up to

(32:06):
two ninety. In nineteen eighty, it's going up to three
dollars in ten over three bucks, three dollars and ten cents.
And then in nineteen eighty one, when we graduate from
high school, we're gonna be making three bucks and thirty
five cents an hour. Baby, dang dang. Can you imagine

(32:27):
making three thirty five an hour right now?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh yeah, you're like, I say, you get the family paid,
but I work my butt off, dude. Yeah, you know,
Tommy's on a check. He probably makes I bet he
makes more than two thirty eight. He's working. Aw he
works at anw driving Yeah, and he's not even old enough.
She hires like fourteen fifteen year olds.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
What's he doing over there?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Like a car hop? Yeah? Car hopping? Huh yeah? I
love aw. Yeah. I'm not a big root beer I'm
not a big root beer fan. I drink my I
got my doctor Pepper right here though. That's pretty much
all I drink is doctor Pepper. But they're kind of
famous for their root beer, and I'm just not a
big root beer. We always go to uh somewhere or

(33:13):
Sandy's at the other end of Van Buren. Hey, one
of these days we're gonna get to drag Van Buren. Yeah,
that'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
We'll begin drive.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I don't know what car. I don't know what are
we going to be driving. I don't want to drive
my mom's car.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's a big old boat, big old ugly thing, green
Fury three.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
My mom's got the big old Tea Bird. I ain't
driving the big old Ta Bird GC. I'm flung the
front of that thing is scared. Wonder if my uncle
let me drive his Pacer. Sweet, that'd be cool. You
know my grandma's driving his green Grimlin Gremlin. Yeah, that'd
be even better. I wonder if grandma would Yeah, she

(33:54):
sold me the Chevy sixty two. Chevy, so I doubt
she's going to sell me the Grimlin at Chevy's a hass.
Gotta get her license first, I know. But it's sitting
in the driveway for and actually I have to share
it with Connie. So one of these days. But yeah,
she put it in the driveway. Now she's driving a Grimlin.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
So you'll get your driver's lessons next year.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah. Wow, Yeah, I gotta wait till summer, like halfway,
don't I get my I can get my permit at
six months. I think fifteen and a half. Yeah, so
you'll be you'll be fifteen next month, right, yeah, December. Yeah,
and then I think I have to take drivers and

(34:41):
oh yeah, first semester of next year, and then I
take my test and I'll get to drive the old Chevy. Cool. Wow,
we'll be in No, I'm confused. Yeah, no, it'll be
two years, two years, two years, and then we'll be

(35:01):
in high school.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, I'm never.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't know anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Well, technically ninth grade is.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I was like, no, we're still in the same building.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, in like big cities, ninth grade is in the
high school building. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
I don't know if I like that.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's kind of gonna be kind of cool next year
being the big dogs, the big dogs Jason and David.
That'll be the first year they come over to Waller,
which will be a little weird because, you know, hanging
out with them on West Broadway. They're still going to McKinley. Oh,
so that'll be so we'll be ninth grade, which will

(35:44):
be kind of weird, like do we hang out with
the seventh graders? Said, I don't know about that, So yeah,
we'll see. Hey should get everybody a run down on
Saturday Night Live last week? Oh yeah, who was the
America forgot Ray Charles? Oh they had Ray Charles was

(36:05):
not only the host, he was the music act. I
was not. They never they didn't do any of the
good skits Two Wild and Crazy Guys. Yeah, cheap, a good, cheap,
a good cheap no pepsi, pepsi, pepsie.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
They Sometimes the shows are really good and sometimes they're
just stupid.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah it was. I wasn't a big fan, but uh.
On the Weekend Update with Jane Curtin and Dan Ackroyd,
Bill Murray did a commentary on Time Magazine's review of
Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which we're going to
see tomorrow night here and ended at the video twin.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah we're gonna meet Shelley.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
We are going to meet Shelley just like we did
last weekend. Oh yeah, so Shelly, you want to give
a quick review last week when last weekend we went
to video twin and saw Heroes with Henry Winkler. That
was cool, he had pulled music on it.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Oh yeah, carry on, my we was old.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
One of our favorite songs. Ever. It's the song in
the movie. And it's a war drama, which is kind
of weird seeing Henry Winkler being serious.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
It's not funny, not like Phonsie.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, but we did meet Shelley at Pizza Inn. You
and her got a little scuffled.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
There was one piece of pizza left and we both
went for it. I actually got the pizza, and that's
why my hands all goofed up right here.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Probably got a scar.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
She got some claws.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, so she I grabbed the pizza. She grabs my
hand and says, let go of the pizza. I'm like, no,
you let go. I think I made a letter of it.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, I think you did. I was. I'm just in.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Shocked from all the blood.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
There's a hole.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
There's a freaking hole.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
In my hand. Yeah, I see it. I know. Yeah.
Her and I've been passing notes all week. She said
something about it this week. She asked me if you
are all right.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I said, yeah, he's all right. I'm pretty tough. I
have to We'll have to give her this cassette and
let her know we were talking about her.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
You'd better give it back.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Give what back?

Speaker 4 (38:17):
The cassette?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, these are going in like the
archive of of soon to be SNL's shows or something.
I went down to Johnson Convenience store, Oh yeah, and
I bought I didn't even know these things existed. I
bought Marvel Star Wars comic book number two.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It was hidden. Somebody had stuffed it between some other
comic books. It was the only It was the only
one they had, and I think somebody was going to
come back and buy it. And I pulled it out
and I was like, I didn't know Star Wars did
comic books. And then I looked at it and it
said number two. Cool. I was like, well, trap or
number one is of course it was probably out a

(39:04):
couple of months ago. But anyway, I don't know they
were doing comic books. Seeing you, I didn't either, But anyway,
so I bought it. So we'll have to look at
that here in a little while, i'll show you. It's
got all the characters from the movie in it. Cool.
And speaking of the movie, my uncle Richard, you know,
the crazy crazy one. He's funny he's seen Star Wars

(39:26):
five times since May. Yeah, he's gone to see it
five times.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Well, it came out on my sister's birthday, on Cindy's birthday.
Oh so, so we've seen it.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Probably three or four times right now?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Oh really? Oh yeah, I've went and saw it once.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Oh no, you got to go because you're there's so
much stuff to see. It's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I can't believe it looks like it's real. It's like, yeah,
I don't know how he did it. It's crazy. It's
like you're really out in space. Huge pheu phew. It's
like it's like that video game.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I can't remember what the Gallaga Asteroids, not Asteroids it was.
I only play Asteroids, so I don't know any other game, you.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Know down there at the bat at the pool hall.
Q Spot, Yeah, Q Spot. My brain's foggy today.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Anyway, I can't remember the name.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah. Uh? Did I tell you? He's gonna take us
to Crossroads small in the city for the Christmas shop.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Oh here a couple of weeks. Yeah, I think you
met me as No.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
No, he's gonna drive Grandma, mom Me and Connie in
the Pacer, which only see its four. So I'm gonna
like lay in the back, back all the way, all
the way. It's only like a two hour it's a
little over two hours. I think. Yeah, it's pretty cool place.

(41:00):
So yeah, go to crossroads. I'm gonna go to guess
where I'm going. First, first store, I'm going to Orange Julius, Spencer, Spencer.
See what kind of black light posters they have? You
got to you gotta get Orange Julius. Oh yeah, I
always got to get an Orange Julius. Grandma, Grandma likes
Orange Julius. I'm sure she'll buy me one.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Went to Wolco today.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Oh yeah, after school.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, bought a New forty five. What was it? It's Queen. Yes.
One side's got we Will Rock You. The other sides
got we ought a Champions. Did you realize that's like,
you know, when they played on the radio, it's like

(41:44):
just it's like all one song. Did you realize it's
like two songs? It is? Yeah, it's like we are
the Champions. I mean it's two songs. But when you
listen to it on the radio, it's kind of like
a Paul McCartney song. You just get like changes to
a whole different sound. But no, it's two whole separate songs. Huh.

(42:06):
I never realized that. Yeah, so on the forty five,
one's on one side and one's on the other side.
That's how that works. I was cranking it up loud
today on my turntable.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Connie, Connie yell at you.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Of course, she's always yelling at me. Turn it now.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
You really should be nicer to her, No, I don't
think so give me a quarter pound.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Or hold a cheese face.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Uh. I would never be mean to my sisters, like, yeah,
I be you and your sisters never like slugged it
out like me and Connie do. I don't you know.
Mom in't home a lot, so we get to fight
each other.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, which is really weird for me. I mean, it's
strange to me.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah. Well, we'll go down and pull some pranks on
her here in a little while after we quit recording.
Uh been to Have you been over to Jack's Reckers
and Tapes lately? I love Jack's what's the last album
you bought?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Gosh, it's a good question.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I just I got a bad out of Hell by Meatloads. Yeah,
it's kind of cool, it's a great it's a great song.
It's kind of like almost like Opry, kind of sort
of weird, but it's Yeah. I wonder he'll be on
probably Don Kirshner's or Midnight Special or SNL here probably

(43:35):
pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I like that song Paradise by the Dashboard last.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Oh, I've been playing the heck out of that on
the radio. There's some good songs on Oh here we
go speaking Us, but none of them made this list.
I mean, we've got carry On Wayward Sun, and we've
got Paradise by the Dashboard Lights, and we got all
these really cool songs. We will rock you. But here's

(43:59):
the list of the American top I'm only going to
read off the top ten, but it's a top forty
by Casey Caseon. You've been listening to Casey.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Oh yeah every weekend.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
This is for the week of November thirteenth, nineteen seventy seven.
I'm going to go from number ten to number one.
It's such a strange mix. Number ten, We are all alone?

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Read a Coolidge.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Number nine, How Deep is Your Love? The bee Gees?
Hey do you hear there? I think Nelson Ramirez and
his family are opening up a disco on South Ambuurina.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Oh lord, but boy they oh what they gonna call it?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I can't remember, but if it pops into my head, yeah,
we'll have to go check it out here one of
these days. A disco in en At Oklahoma. Yeah, I
can't remember the name of uh Okay. Number eight, Heaven
on the seventh floor, Paul nick Golas. You don't remember

(45:09):
hearing that one? Have you heard it on the radio?

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know who Paul Nicholas is. Uh
Number seven? Baby, what a big surprise, Baby, what a
big surprise? Number six? I feel love Donna Summer. That's
that disco song. That's a good song. Number five Old
Crystal Gale coming in with don't Brown Eyed and Blue.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
My sister sings that all the time. My dad loves it.
He does, yeah, all the time, asking her to sing it.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Well, one of these days, your dad's gonna have to
hire me to do some riffing. I need some money, sure,
something a little higher than two dollars and thirty cents
an hour.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
We get paid by the square.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh you do?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Oh yeah, I've asked your work.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Oh that's cool, like ten bucks of square A dang, Yeah,
there's three bundles to a square. Cool.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
And you know what we do is we keep this
a little two by four handy, and every time we
open a bundle, we take a nail and nail it
in there. Oh wow, one two three, and then come down.
I'll go one, two three. So you know how many
squares you did. And it's not uncommon to do on
a job out, you know, in the summertime, because don't work,

(46:28):
don't work a lot during the school year. But you know,
an average house around here right now is like the
new house is like thirty squares.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I'll do like ten squares. Dang yeah, dang, yeah, you're
buying lunch tomorrow. You're paying for the movie tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
The uh Cindy, My dad says all the time. I
don't know if it's true or not, because you know,
you make more money than most grown men. And I'm like, yeah,
I work a lot harder.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Than most grown men.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
And my sister Sindy's always jealous because he won't let
the girls get up on the roof. Oh and she's
also jealous.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Of one hand. You do get pretty dark up there. Well,
one of these. Tell him if he needs a hand
this summer again, give me a hauler. Number four, it's ecstasy,
Would you lay down next to me? By Borroward, You've
got a rude voice.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
He's a big old black guy.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
He is number three, Nobody does it Better? Nobody does
it better? Kylie Kylie Simon and number two Boogie Nights,
No Boogie Knights by heat Wave, Different Boogie Knights. Number one,

(47:49):
what number one? I'm so tired of hearing this song.
It's probably been at number one for fifty weeks by Boone.
He light up my lifelight, Lie.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Yeah, I'm tired of it.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
It is uh. And she's like on every show, like, uh,
what was she on the other day? Michael Michael Douglas shows, Yeah,
and Carol Burnett and she's like on every show MERV.
Next thing, you know, she'll be popping up on the
Brady Bunch or something. I hope not or Happy. She

(48:27):
better not be on Happy Days. Been watching Happy Days? Yeah? Uh,
I think this week our next week, Susie Quintero, it's
gonna be quatro quatro, it's gonna be leather, leather they

(48:48):
I guess they kicked pinky off and now it's leather
her like little sisters.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, she's cute.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah. I don't know if Fawns is gonna like be
dating or I don't know. I can't wait to can't
wait to see the episode. You know, that's my favorite show.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to watch that every Thursday night. ABC.
I think it's on ABC ABC. Uh yeah, So what

(49:18):
other stuff you got over there? Man? Uh well, we
were talking about going to uh, Close Encounters. It's gonna
be cool.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Yeah, I hear.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Richard Dreyfus has another movie coming out like in a
month or two. I saw him being interviewed, and I
guess he's working on one called like the Goodbye Girl. So, uh,
you know, he's one of my favorite actors. Do you
know that?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
You know he was in Jaws, right, Oh sure, yeah yeah,
and Close Encounters and Goodbye Girl and uh American Graffiti,
Well that's right, yeah, yeah, there are a lot of
people American Graffiti. It was yeah, Richie Cunninghead, yeah, and

(50:11):
Sureley Feeni surely from.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of It's
a good movie.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah, uh no, that's a that's a heck.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I had some skits I was going to have us do,
but I think we'll skip the skits for tonight skits. Yeah,
you know, kind of like skits they do on Saturday
Night Live. Oh, book, chepook cheap, A good cheap, two
wild and crazy guys. We got the big American bulges.

(50:46):
I like that Steve Martin guy, he's pretty funny. He's
pretty funny. I have Bill Murray's a pretty funny guy too.
Saturday Night Live. Man, that's probably the funniest show. It'll
probably go on for one hundred ye yours be one
of those shows that last forever, maybe long time, Like,

(51:12):
can you imagine what's gonna be like in a hundred years?

Speaker 5 (51:14):
That is?

Speaker 1 (51:16):
What is that mister burkin? Yeah, yep, I'm gonna say.
You probably hear him breathing here in a minute. And
if I still don't think he can do a backflip, oh,
he can do a backflip. If you guys didn't know, Uh,
the seventies bus show mascot is my Chinese pug named

(51:38):
mister and he can do backflips.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
Yeah, so uh huh, I see it. I'm still waiting.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, you know, we've only got a couple more months.
It's gonna be winter, then Spring's gonna get here, and
you know what we're gonna have to do. What's it
to get the water cooler out of the girl? I
should put it in the window for mom now, yeah,
the right of passage in the spring put Mom's water

(52:08):
cooler in. Yeah, that's cool. I don't mind. Yeah, she's uh,
I think she's out working at the club on the
base tonight. So we have all kinds of freedom to
go down and pester Connie.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I never hardly see your mom. Yeah, she's not like
miss Petty John. Don't see her all the time. Yeah,
miss Petty John done. I think they had something to
do with Styton's dad's Hey, a guy that he works
with invited him over for dinner, so stateon went over
there for Styton. Yeah. I think. I think that guy

(52:43):
has a car that they're thinking about selling to State
and when he gets his driver's license. Oh cool. I
think it's a black Cutlass or something. So, but I
don't know. They've just been talking about it. So uh,

(53:03):
going to the movie tomorrow. You know, we ought to
do what we ought to do. We had to go
over to Fitzsimmons and get some eggs.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Oh wait till he gets dart. It's been a week
or two since we threw eggs at cars. Somebody's gonna
kick our button. Yeah, they never catch us. Yeah, let's
do that. Well, we'll go past Connie here in a
little bit and then go get you. You got any money? Yeah, okay,
Well I don't even know if they like ninety nine

(53:33):
cents now or eighty nine cents for a dozen? Got it? Okay,
we'll go. So if I had a camera, we picked
pictures put them on the show. But I don't do that.
I'm gonna say, I don't know. I just wanted everybody
to see us throwing eggs. Don't dry by nineteen oh two,
West BRONNOI on the weekend, or you might get eggs. Yeah,

(53:55):
you'll be all right. Tomorrow we're going to the movies.
We are going to be at the movie, so shall
if you're out there listening, we will see you tomorrow night. Okay,
I think that's probably enough for tonight's show.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, your tape's beot throwing out again? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Anything else? Do we want to let everybody in Amarca? No, no, everybody,
just have a good weekend. It's nineteen seventy seven. Life
doesn't get much better. Oh you know what, and Elvis
didn't die, by the way, what Elvis didn't die? Uh?

(54:34):
We got to do our signature. What's that? Well, you
know we talk about oh yeah, we don't talk about
the fifties and we don't talk about the sixties. It's
not a good decade. We only talk about the seventies.
Why is that, Todd Gilbert, because Curtisdean I was the
greatest decade knows to men. Yes, it was. Okay, everybody,

(54:57):
we're gonna get out of here. Bye bye. Get the button,
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