Gene Hackman movies in the 70s

Listen in as we visit about some of the great Gene Hackman movies from the 70s!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, busheads, Welcome to the Seventies Buzz Podcast. I'm Curtis Tucker.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I'm Todd Wheeler, bringing you our memories or lack thereof,
of growing up in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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guys to know that sometimes we get things wrong, and
if you listen to us long enough, you're going to
be screaming at your device trying to give us the
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hello, Richard Warriors, it's quiet at your house.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Tod, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
That crazy woman another number? It's that time again?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
What time is it?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's seven to one? Oh, it's Starver the Seventies Bush Podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Welcome back for another exciting episode. Welcome back. It's so
lonely in here this week.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
What I tell you what is as big of a
pain in the butt as she was just kidding. It
was nice half company.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I told her that. I said, I think Todd's probably
enjoying having company around.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was nice. It was really nice. Yeah, I never
want to do it again. I just kidding. So I
told her she needs to come back to Oklahoma in
the fall and we'll go do the Tallaheeny Pass. I've
always wanted to go. It's kind of like I was
ever going to go to the Cowboy Hall of Fame museum.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
But yeah, you get you get outsiders coming in and yeah,
you start doing stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Get outside your circle.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, you guys, Hey, everybody, welcome back to another exciting episode.
Hit us up at five eight oh five, four one
three eight oh five or buzz but sidmedia dot com.
You guys, we got we got quite a few phone
calls tonight. Yeah, so we will get right into those.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
We got Carl Carl from Rochester, New York. He graduated
in nineteen seventy seven. He really liked the glam Rock
yacht Rock episodes.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And he has called a couple of times before.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
This is his third call. And he said, and he
asked us if we actually knew that the song Mocked
the Hoople was written by David Bowie, and I do
believe we knew that.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, I don't know that we mentioned it anywhere, but
in researching David Bowie a couple of weeks ago, I
ran across.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
That, Yeah your David Boys song.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, oh yeah once you yeah, Once you hear that,
you're like, oh yeah, sounds like it should. So anyway,
thanks for calling in, Carlo. We appreciate it like a
carl they've goned, they've called.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
He was really impressed with Gretchen, although he doesn't understand
why Gretchen doesn't like maloney spam or to nic castrole.
You would not believe the things that Gretchen does not say.
You guys have no idea.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You have no idea taking Gretchen to eat somewhere, and
we're giving her a hard time, but as we should.
She she did well. She found some deat everywhere. Oh sure,
even even with all of her her idiosyncrasies.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
No mayonnaise, no ketchup, no mustard, no ranch, but yeah,
but she did.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Find stuff to eat. So Dave also talked about Dave
had sent me a message last week. You know he's
He was talking about documentaries and how he doesn't really
like to watch documentaries because he knows the ending. But
he sent me one called The Speedway Murders.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I've never heard of this.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's a you know, a true story documentary on three
kids that were working at a burger chef. And I
don't have the details in front of me, but it
was in the seventies, and so basically what they do
is the documentary recreates I think it was Indianapolis. It's
the Speedway, so that's why they call it. They call

(04:37):
it the Speedway.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Did he I think, did he share something on Facebook
or something? He made sure because it's vaguely familiar.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Anyway, and he told me he was going to watch it,
so I thought he had watched it. But anyway, I
went ahead and watched it. And it's really cool because
it's a real seventies it's a burger chef recreated in
the seventies. There's re enactments and so and the characters
are seventies looking and their seventies cars and and it's

(05:04):
it's so it's really cool. It's really sad. And I
don't want to give you guys, even though it's a
true story and you can look up the news, I
don't want to give you the.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where just where'd you watch it at? Don't tell me.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Hulu, Hulu? God, because Dave one thing I.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Don't have now, I have Netflix now.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
See Dave said it was on Hulu, and I was like,
I don't think I have Hulu. And so because when
I go to my Hulu app, it says to log in,
and I don't know the log in. So I texted
Denise and I said, do we have Hulu? And so Hulu,
the free version or the regular version comes with Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
They show very little though.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
But they showed this, Oh they did.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh so I got it.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So yeah, So if you've got Disney Plus, go to
the Hulu at in Disney Plus and you can see
the Speedway murders.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'll watch that tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah. And it's it's real, it's interesting and again, like
I said.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's sad. Yeah, somebody got murdered.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, so it'll so let's talk about it on the
next episode. Watch it because there's theories because they don't
know exactly what happened, and you'll find out why when
you watch the documentary. And so so let's talk about
our theories of what we think happened.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Oh yeah, speaking of theories. Yeah, so if I don't,
I don't mean to jump ahead.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, but by the title you probably know that tonight's
episode we're kind of honoring Gene Hackman and his movies
in the seventies, but we also want to speculate because
they have not come out with what happened happened, and
so we're going to speculate with Christopher Todd over on
Buzshead Radio tonight and not take up the time on here.
So be sure and go to Bushead Radio and we'll

(06:45):
talk more about the death and all that over there.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, what else did Dave have to say? Oh, he's asking.
He was wondering why you didn't take Gretchen on the trail.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Just time, you know, I go early. She did go
for I thought about I think I was thinking like Wednesday,
but that was you guys got up at seven thirty
and went to the Gloss Mountain.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So, uh, yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
It was just I don't know, we just had so
much stuff going on. It just didn't didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, she would get up and if you guys haven't
seen the her being attacked by the next door neighbors Rottweiler,
you should look that up on my Facebook page. It's
a little scary. But so after that, I started because
she thinks she hid from my camera a lot. Now
she may have. I don't know if she did or not,

(07:35):
because I can't.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Because she's not she's not on cameras on camera, but
so she could be lying.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
So there were yeah, probably there were several instances when
I on the camera, I would see her like peek
around the corner looking for the dog, looking for the
dog because she goes walking every morning and and then
so she would like peek around the corner, didn't see it,
and then she.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Start running too funny, and that that was one reason
Dave is Todd and I don't really live super close
to each other, so one of us would have had
to drive two miles not even well, I mean, she
could have gotten your car and come up, but I
go at six, so I don't know if she was
going to want to get up at six. Yeah. And
they talked about my zoinki's logo. Yeah, I know it's

(08:21):
it's not showing the whole logo game. I just wanted
to get it on quick and I will repair that soon.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Uh. And speaking of Gretchen, she called she called. Apparently
she picked up some nicknames while she was here in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think it was you mostly. You were calling her
quite a few. You called her quite a few names. Yeah,
almost all of them she listed. I remember there was
Picky Eater and yeah, and I can't some of them
were I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Anyway, but they were all out of love.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah. I think we've decided to stick.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
With blockhead okay, and she can rotate those that she
wants to. And she's talking about coming back. I suggested
she comes back in the fall because we have this
thing called the Tallaheeney Pass. I think I mentioned it
while ago that I've never been to. But it's like
a it's like fifty miles. I looked it up today.
It's a fifty mile road trip through south southeastern Oklahoma.

(09:24):
So she got to experience a lot of northwestern Oklahoma
and a little bit of northeastern Oklahoma, but southeastern Oklahoma
is even different.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's way yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, So that's one of the awesome things about our state.
So I was like, come to town, we'll go to
We'll go to the Tallaheeny Pass one day. And she
also asked about Donkey Lady.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Her friends and her are curious about the Donkey Lady story,
and as we are as well. So we called out
Steve you on our last episode, and Steve has answered.
Rather than us trying to remember everything, Steve said, here's
Steve explaining the Donkey Lady.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
And by the way, Steve, I hope it's okay.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
It's okay, hey, guys, It's Steve from Channing Zone. I
just wanted to add on to your the Donkey Lady deal.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
I can't remember everything. I just remember it being Donkey Lady.
But I think the story goes something like she she
was a widow back in like the early sixties, and
and she would just she lost her house or or
I mean it's a true story as far as being
an actual lady. Uh. So she lost her house and

(10:43):
so she would just live in really a place wherever
she could find. And so out of the northeast San
Antonio is a place called Robarts where she would stay
in some old shacks and she had a bunch of animals.
And that she got older, her features changed and I

(11:03):
think she got sick and she had lost an arm
I don't know, and then her features changed in her
face to where people would see her actually walk around
with some ponies and some donkeys and like moving from

(11:23):
place to place. There was a few hundred acres out
there and she would stay. If somebody found out where
she actually stayed. And so that's where uh the in
the seventies, Uh, that's where people call her the donkey Lady.
Would go out there and kind of harass her. Is

(11:45):
kind of more sad than everything. But as you know,
as time goes, you know, legend grows where and better
not be caught out there would do some bad things
to So that was a story. So everybody kind of
knee that story up in that northeast part of town.

(12:05):
And so, like I said, we could get people and
uh go in the back of the truck and run
out there just honk and and we actually would actually
come out back and to be you know, they'd be
donkeys tie off different places. So it's kind of it
was dark and eerie. And then the way that it was,
you know, because the darkness, the features, you know, it

(12:27):
was it was like scary. But I mean, she never
really did anything, But that's just the legend that I
had talked to people over the years. I think like
other parts of Dunce, across the crowd, across the south
or wherever. Uh they had their own version doculator, but
uh uh. Anyway, that's that's our northeast latis donkey Lat.

(12:52):
And then after a while, I think I think she
passed away or or never no, we ever saw her again,
like in the early nineties or whatever. I could have
been before that. But anyway, he just wanted to finish
that up for what I what I recall, and then
also that it's kind of like Gretchen had a good
time on your show, our good little bak, I guess.

(13:17):
But anyway, man, y'all keep up the good work. I'm
I'm still listening, getting my last and enjoy here, and
y'all tell your stories, so we'll talk at you later.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Thanks Steve.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Thanks Steve, you explained that much more eloquently.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, you know how basically urban myth that would be.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's an awesome moment.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
That's just kind of there there. You know, we had
like the magnificent Cobra urban myth, and and then and
in in the seventies, it was kind of the thing
to do to make fun of people. Yeah, we had
a guy we called the bikini man. And he would
he would jog up and down our main street in
nothing but a bikini and a ski mask on in
like one hundred degree weather. Now we didn't really we

(13:58):
didn't like stop him and make the bully him.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
But is that the same guy who puts a shopping
cart with his wife.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
In a well, usually she was in a wheelchair, but yeah,
he would.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I've seen her in a shopping cart.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, but yeah, sometimes she'd be in a will mostly,
but she could walk. But that was their car, so
she and they ran the whole They always ran. Yeah,
he ran and pushed her. Yeah, and so.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, bi bikini man. I remember back in the seventies
there was a he was a scout he worked for
He was with the Boy Scouts and he went to
my church and his name was Cecil, and the mankins
used to pick on him because they were boy Scouts

(14:43):
and stuff. I'm like, don't be mean to Cecil. Cecil
was you know he was. I don't know if he was,
I don't know what. I don't want to get in trouble,
but Cecil was a little different. Yeah, And anyway, their
dad ran over his foot ouch accident. I'm sure as accidentally.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Sam's not here to defend himself, so anyway.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, and then I've got Jeffrey's email that I didn't
have with me last week. Hello Jeffrey here, everyone, Hello there, everyone,
especially miss Gretchen in particular. What an amazing week it is.
I slept nine hours in the weekend. I have a
question for you bos heads. What did you think of Europe,
especially the Netherlands during the seventies. We kind of talked

(15:28):
about that where we didn't really think we weren't really
thinking about that type of stuff in the seventies. What
misconceptions do we have? Talks about how some people think
smoking marijuana was legal there and it's not North Holland.
In South Holland the second most common misconception. Okay, ox anyway,

(15:55):
that was so basically he just thought that might be
kind of an interesting episode. Misconceptions do we have of Europe?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And a blonde and blue eyd right exactly? Okay, there
you go.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, So anyway, okay, so there is We're gonna have
a very short Gene Hackman episode because I got one
more thing I wanted to do real quick. Hang on,
let me get this fired up.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Hey, didn't you have a surprise?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's what I'm about to do.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Ah, Curtis has a surprise here?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Hang on, how do I want to do this?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't know. He's manipulating his phone. I'm videoing, so
he's videoing a video.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So I ran across something and I wanted to give
it a try because it's been so long. Did you
notice my blue berry moon pies? Well when I found those,
I also found and I knew they were there, but
I just never thought to try him. I bought Zingers, Oh, singers, singers.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Now?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
The thing about these?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh yeah, they got the frosting on them. Yeah, hang on,
there do I get to eat this?

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
We're gonna this is This is gonna be on social
media video.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
So on air. We're gonna eat now. Now when I
ate Zingers in the seventies, they were made by Dolly Madison,
and of course they went out of business and then
Hostess picked up Sorry guys, what do they call it?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
SMRSM?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Now, there's nothing inside here like a twinkie, right, there is?
Oh there is?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
From what I remember, there is, I don't remember. Okay,
So the first thing, my first impression is that they
seem smaller. Yeah, in my mind, I thought they were.
I think they were bigger in the.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Seventies, probably even though our hands were probably smaller. Yeah,
do you want me open up for you?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
No, okay, you take a bye take it. Did you
eat zingers that much?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Though? I mean, yeah, I mostly ate ding dongs, But okay,
that was just something inside. Okay, Well that's good. That's
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Okay, Now I don't I do not know when the
last time I had his inger was. Oh, wow, you
know what, m m m hm, wow. These are pretty good.
We think.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's kind of like a Twinkie with frosting.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's exactly like a Twinkie with frosting, although the cake's
a little different.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Mm hmmm, twinkie cake.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's got a funny bungee. Yeah, it's got a little something,
which is why I never ate them. It's kind of
like a little wang to it or something. I can't
I never could put my finger on it. That's a
good that's a good amount of frosting too.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's a lot of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
They're day dating chintz on that that now I remember.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So it's been so long that I don't know if
these taste a whole lot of different than they used to,
but I'm gonna go ahead and say they taste it's
good pretty much like I used to. Yeah, so, if
you guys are looking for zingers, they're out there. They're
just made. They're just under the Hostess brand rather than
Dollar Madison's.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So have they been hard to find? Because I don't
eat stuff like this hardly ever.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I don't think so. I just it just never dawned
on me to have his singer.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Cool, I need to drink of water room okay.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, I got Okay, so as far as I so,
I videoed that and I'll put the video on social media.
So say bye.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Bye, not you guys, not not not bus seventies bus.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Not the podcast listeners. Yeah, so hang on, I gotta
take a drink.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I'll just suck on my eyes.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah that was pretty sweet. That had some sugar to it.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. I don't do sweet like that very often. Oh,
speaking of sweet, So on Friday, after Gretchen got here,
we went to the grocery store, you know, pick up
some things she might want to eat, and she she
got some apples. Well, when she left, there was one
apple left. She's on going to leave this apple for you.
Eight it this afternoon, the sweetest. It was like that

(20:08):
sweet real, sweetest apple of every even my life. I
could I could barely eat it was so sweet mm hmm,
but I want to eat it before I went wonkey.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
So well, we're gonna talk. So apples are pretty good
fiber you guys listening to bus said radio tonight. We
we're gonna talk all kinds of stuff over there.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Can hardly wait, but.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
We got we got to get to Jean. We gotta
get to Jean here.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
By the way, Gene Hackman, Bud if y'all didn't know
miss Steven under a rock.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Very very mysteriously.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, we'll go in to that, Aus said to radio.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, our theories on that. But so anyway, he was, uh,
he wasn't super iconic in the seventies. Augh we had,
you know, I think he kind of had two memorable
movies started his career in the sixties, which were you know,
I don't know that anybody remember any of his movies
in the sixties. Had some really great movies like Later,

(21:05):
But I'm going to go with his two best movies
being in the seventies. And why is that mister.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Wheeler, because that was the greatest decade lawn researching this.
Uh got to mention the sixties because he was in
a movie in the sixties called Bonnie and Clyde.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yes, he was.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I did not remember that. Do you know who else
was in that that? I had no idea? Was? You'll
never guess? Yeah, Gene Wilder.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Guess.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I yeah, so a lot. It's now I got two movies.
I gotta watch that comment.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And if you guys didn't know, Bonnie and Clyde actually
came to Enid, Oklahoma and robbed our armory.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, and they made a lot of the movie was
made here.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
No, Yes, Bonnie and Clyde, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
No, what am I thinking of? Dillinger?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh yeah, Dillinger, Dillinger, Dillinger. Bonnie and Clyde seemed to.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
H yeah, but in real life, Yeah, Bonnie and Clyde
came from Kansas, drove down from They were hiding out
in Kansas, and they needed more guns, and they knew
Enid had an armory. They came to Enid, robbed our
armory and took all the guns back up to Kansas.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
He liked Clyde liked a specific rifle. It's called a
Browning automatic rifle a bar.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I think that's what they stole. They stole them.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Because you could only get them from the military back then. Yeah,
So anyway back to the seventies.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
There you go. Okay, So Eugene Alan Hackman born in
nineteen thirty died February seventeenth, under mysterious causes, basically won
two Academy Awards, two British Academy Film Awards, and four
Golden Globe Awards. Now, he was one of my favorite actors,

(22:46):
but unfortunately not so much from the seventies. The only
movie that I really really enjoyed, which I think at
one point I read in this stuff that they kind
of considered Beside an Adventure of flop in.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
The seventies and I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well I did too. I don't know why they said that,
but that was my favorite movie in the seventies, And
if you want to hear us talk about that, we've
done a whole episode on Beside an Adventure. So so,
but he got his Academy Award from the French connection.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Okay, So, researching this yesterday, I got to thinking, I
don't know that I ever watched The French Connection.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know, I don't know that I've ever watched the
entire I've seen parts of it because of the chase,
the chase, the car chase, but I don't know that
I've like watched the whole movie.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I did, Oh you did last night? Okay, I gotta
be honest. I had trouble stand awake. I dozed off
a couple of times. And it wasn't that late. It
was like nine o'clock and I thought, I'm gonna watch
French Connection because it's supposed to be this really cool movie.
It's a lot of it's a lot of steak out.

(23:59):
They do do lot of running, chasing on foot. It
was just it just blows my mind that he won
an Academy Award for that. I'm like, really, I guess
maybe there wasn't a lot of competition in seventy one.
I'm probably gonna catch him flat for this, but I'm sorry.
I just I think it may have been one of

(24:21):
the first movies with a big car chase scene because
they beat the crap out of this car.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, it's one of the most famous car chases in cinema.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
When did Bullet come out? I think it was before that,
and that was really good.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, I think that might have come out before. And
he was not the first choice for really the French connection.
Well who was That's what I'm looking at. So the
director William Freakin Fredkin wanted Paul Newman, Steve McQueen or

(25:04):
Charles Bronson.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
All three of those would have been awesome.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
None of those would do it, and so Hackman knew
he was like fourth string and finally got the job,
and he would make jokes about it. So he basically
made jokes like they settled for him in the movie. So,
but he did end up earning an oscar for it. So,

(25:28):
but he was the last choice out of those other three.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, bullet was Steve mcquinkie about in sixty eight, so
it was three years earlier, which I think was a
better court chasing. Yeah, but you can't knock him. The
guy made like, as far as I could find, nineteen
movies in the seventies, say, cranking them out.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I think he made. He may have been like the
I don't know that anybody made more than he did
in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, and they weren't.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Now, there was one scarecrow I hadn't seen many of
his seventies movies.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
There's a lot I haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Somebody somewhere, somebody attributed him to saying his favorite movie
was Scarecrow, but I don't think I think that might
have been a misquote.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
That was from seventy three, that was a year after
Poseidon Adventure. Of course, I loved him in Frank Young Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, you know, I kin you kind of forget that
he was in that.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And he did that for free. He just wanted to
do it because he wanted because it was such a
cool just to be a.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Part of a ensemble.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty dang good. And he
wasn't ait it very long. I forgot he was in
a bridge too far and he was Superman seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, for a lot of people. Yeah, And so Lex
Luthor is bald. Hackman wouldn't go bald.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
He did it, then, didn't he?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
They he never seen he wouldn't shave his head, so
they had to do camera angles and the bald mass.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, yeah, because at the end he pulls his hair off.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but he yeah, he refuged for some reason.
He refused to shave his head.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
That's really that's weird.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I thought that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
So I got on the Entertainmentweekly dot com website fifteen
of the best Hackman movies. So I just picked out
this is interesting. I just picked out the ones from
the seventies. Number one, number three, number four, number five,
number six, and number twelve. We're all from the seventies.
Oh wow, number twelve en Fergenstein six, Scarecrow, which I

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guess we need to watch.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, for some reason, I want to watch that one.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, Night Moves, Superman, French Connection and the conversation. I
watched a little bit of the conversation. It was it's
a strange movie.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
And I think that might actually be the one that
he he said was his favorite. I think he got
misquoted on the Scarecrow, one of those two I think
was his favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Man, that movie is out there. But a lot of
the stuff in the seventies, especially their early seventies, the
first half of the seventies, they had some weird movies.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, and Albacino is in Scarecrow, well really yeah, And
so so basically he went on he lied and joined
the Marines. I think when he was sixteen. Oh yeah,
did some military service, came back, wanted to be an actor,

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and he was in this acting academy and they basically
picked him in his roommate, who was a guy named
Dustin Hoffman, and dubbed them the least likely to succeed
in the acting Academy.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
What do they know? What do they know? I was
just looking to here a scarecrow from seventy three. It's
actually a comedy.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh really yeah? Oh interesting?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Uh so through American road comedy drama filmed by director
Jerry Whoever, starring Hackman and Pacino.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, that looks like it's moving. Worth a look.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, so Hackman he got the term. It was the
Pasadena Playhouse that basically said that he and hoff Hoffman Hoffman,
Dustin Hoffman would be the least likely to succeed. So
he went off to New York and that's kind of
where he started his career, ran into Robert Duvall. Those

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three kind of piled around and kind of all started
their movie careers together. But he never was in a
movie with Dustin until what was that one? What was
it was like? Not in the seventies, But I'll help
find it here in a minute, but they finally got
to do a movie together. So he was a a

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supporter of the Democratic Party, but he did enjoy Ronald Reagan.
And he was also competed in the sports Car Club
of America Races driving an open wheeled Formula Ford huh,
which I thought was kind of interesting. Yeah. At He

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was thirty seven when he was in Bonnie and Clyde,
so it took him a little while to get his
acting career going.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Runaway Jury.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh yeah, Runaway Jury. Have you seen that one?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh, it's a good movie from two thousand and three.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah. Yeah, it took that long for those two to
do a movie together. But that's a good movie.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
John Cusack, Cid Rachel Wise, Wow.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah. Yeah. John Cusack is one of the jurors. If
you haven't seen it, I want to spoil it too much.
But they plant him or he plans himself to sway
the jury and then blackmails the attorneys and says, I
can sway this jury however I want. So if you
don't give me money, I'll make them go the other way.

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And so it's a really good movie, let's see.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
He was famous for not watching his films The only
time that he saw the French connection was was the
first time they did the initial screening. He said he
never enjoyed watching himself on screen, so he a lot
of his movies he never saw, and French connection he
only saw once.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I've heard of other actors doing that.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Which I you know, I can. You know, being an extra,
it's always kind of fun to find yourself the first time,
but then after that it's kind of like, yeah, that's
something you want to sit down there and watch, let's see.
Unlike so when he was playing Lex Luthor, unlike traditional supervillains,

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Hackman's Luther was charming, sarcastic, and even humorous. And then
he also, even though it was in the seventies, he
did Superman two in nineteen eighty but they had to
film that in seventy nine, so that was kind of
a seventies and then they did Superman Foe he was
in in nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
What about Superman three?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I don't think he was in Superman three for some reason,
which one was rich see, I don't remember. The only
Superman I remember was I think probably one and two. Yeah,
after that, I don't think I saw three or four
number four, The Quest for Peace. I don't so, I
don't really remember. Uh, here was something interesting. He is

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from originally Danville, Illinois, and went to high school there
at Danville High School. And some of the other guys
at high school there were Bob Walker, Jerry Wright, Harold Brown,
and a guy named Bob Hackman. Well, Bob Hackman was

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his cousin. And his cousin and those other guys hung
around with a guy named Dick van Dyke.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And so Dick van Dyke and Gene Hackman went to
the same high school.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And so Dick van Dyk would have been a little older.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Ye. Yeah, so Dick van Dyke hung around with his
older cousin. But but Jean got to hang out with
him every now and then because he was a cousin.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
So that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I know what Dick Van Dyke was like in high school.
He's such a nice guy. Now, yeah, he's like ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Now he's up there.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Hopefully he doesn't well. Him and his wife and his dog.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Knock home woods.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah no, was that radioid you?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Uh? Yeah, So anyway, let's see he uh, nineteen fifty six,
he married Faye Maltese and they had a son and
two daughters, and he was often on location filming while
the children were growing up. They divorced in eighty six
after three decades of marriage, and then in ninety one

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he married classic pianist Betsy Arakawa, who is the one
that they found. Yeah, so as well, that's what we're
going to speculate. Let's see and they let's see. They
had dated seven years and then basically when he retired.

(34:20):
So he retired in the early odds. I don't have
it in front of me exactly, but basically health reasons.
It was kind of too he had had some heart
trouble and they told him that if he continued acting
it was going to be too stressful. So he basically
retired and they decided to move to Santa Fe, New Mexico,

(34:41):
to kind of get out of the spotlight.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
He kind of disappeared.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Well. They said that he was pretty active. He would
do plates like three days a week and ride his bicycle.
But then when COVID hit, he got really worried about
his health, and they said then he disappeared. They hadn't
even the report I heard did not will talk more
about this on the other show. But she hadn't talked
to her mom in like, I think years, and he

(35:06):
hadn't talked to his kids in like months or something.
It's kind of like they kind of disappeared there for a.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
While, sore something funky.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, so let's see what else in Okay you talked
about Runaway Jerry. That was when he did work with
Dustin Hoffman. Hackman was honored with a Cecil B. Demill
Award from the Golden Globe Awards for his Outstanding contribution
to Entertainment field in two thousand and three. Michael Caine

(35:44):
and Robin Williams presented him the award. In two thousand
and four, he gave a rare interview to Larry King.
And that's one thing, think about it. You rarely ever
saw Gene Hackman interviewed. He didn't do a whole lot
of interviews, just of weird. I might have to look
up that Larry King interview.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know what else? Did new interviews? Elvis? Yeah, he
never got to go on I'm I'm sorry I changed
the subject, but it just reminded me that he didn't.
He never went on Johnny Carson.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
All those any of the talk shows.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, Glar was studying I hate the colu the Colonel.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Let's see Hackman. In that Larry King interview, he announced
that he had no future film projects lined up and
believed his acting career was over. He did narrate four
episodes of the NFL film sports documentary series America's Game
the Super Bowl Champions in two thousand and seven, and
then oh and then he became a novelist and wrote

(36:48):
several books. I wrote some of them with another guy,
but then wrote some of them on his own. I
thought I had those. We may have those listed here
in a second. But then somebody ask him if he
would ever come out of retirement to do a movie.
He said only if if the movie was on his terms,
on his terms, and never transpired. But he was eating

(37:11):
at a diner in Santa Fe when Guy fer aur
for Air showed up for diners, drive ins and dives,
and so he was actually seen eating. That was That
was basically his last appearance, like on television anywhere.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Did they talk to him, I'm.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Assuming they did, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Assuming yeah, I'm he just happened to be there.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I think he just happened to be there.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, maybe maybe Guy for here for for whatever his
name is there going to be there exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I thought I had the books, but maybe I don't
have the books listed.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, so well, here let me give you a rundown
of all the movie from the seventies.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
You guys, write these down. Everybody see them all. Let
us know what you think.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Nineteen seventy I never sang from my father. In seventy
one he did four movies French Connection, Doctor's Wives, The
Hunting Party, and I can't read my writing.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Cisco Pike, Yeah, Cisco Pike.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
In seventy two he did two Prime cut in The
Poseidon Adventure, which we've all seen, Scarecrow in seventy three,
which I want to watch. In seventy four he did
Three Conversation, Zandy's Bride and Young Frankenstein, which was a
small part but hilarious. Seventy five he did one, two, three,

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four Night Moves, Bite the Bullet, French Connection, Part dou
A Lady, Lucky Lady.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
He did Lucky Lady with Burt Reynolds and Eliza Minelli.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I don't I don't remember that. Seventy seven he did
The Domino Principle and I Bridged too Far and March
or Die, and then in seventy eight he did Superman
and kind of technically in the seventies Superman two. There
you go. That was the That was the nineteen twenty

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plus movies he did in one decade.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
A pretty full career, and yet none of those were
even his big movies, which is kind of astounding.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, why don't we I wonder why, out.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Of all those movies, why Poseidon Adventure was I guess
because it was kind of a disaster I guess we
were kind of going through that disaster movie phase that
made it so big. Do you remember right after you
know how movies kind of go in patterns, like when
one comes out groups. Do you remember the movie that

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came out right after Poseidon Adventure that was a boat movie.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
And you don't remember? You was hoping?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I did, No, I did remember until I Juggernaut.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
So Juggernaut came out and just like either the same
year or like right after Side of Adventure.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's like they did a volcano movie, two volcano movies,
and yeah, it's like which one can get up first?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah? So yeah, but I don't know, I don't know
why Poside Adventure was was.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
What was so well known.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean we all know Poseidon Adventure, but nobody knows
Scarecrow or any I've never even heard of some of
these other movies.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well, it's probably it probably got promoted. I mean it had,
it had a lot, it had a huge cast. I
mean all the older people were famous, and they maybe
just promoted it more. It was an Earn Allen movie.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think maybe because it
was a disaster movie, where because I yeah, like I say,
some of these movies I had just hadn't even heard of.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, I don't know of any other disaster movie that
Gene Hackman did.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
No, I don't think he did any other ones.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
That was the thing to do in the first half.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Everybody famous had to be in a disaster movie in
the seventies.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I mean Dean Martin did Airport.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think everybody did Airport and Towering Inferno. If you
weren't in Airport, you were in Towering inn And.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Some of them weren't both. Yeah, yeah, there was a
lot of there were several people that did both. But yeah, no,
I really like those disaster movies from the seventies.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I liked beside the Adventure. I was not a fan
of the other ones for some reason. Yeah, I mean
I watched him.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
But Airport. You didn't like Airport? No, not really, Oh man,
I loved Airport.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Wasn't Charlton Heston and Towering Inferno?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I think Charlton Heston and I believe Steve McQueen was
in it too, I believe.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Charlton Heston was for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I wasn't just for some reason, just wasn't a big fan.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, Charlton uh oh, Paul Newman.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Paul Newman was in Tarring Inferno.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, Paul Newman, not Charlton Hesson.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh yeah, Paul Newman really.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, Paul Newman, Stephen Queen, Faye down Away, William Holding,
Fred Astaire, Jennifer Jones, Susan Blakelee, O. J. Simpson, Robert Vaughan.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I think I'm have to go. I think I have
to watch that again.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, Charlton Hesson would have been in the He was
in several What was he in? Kind of like that?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
What was he?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah? For some reason, I thought he was in one
of those big disaster movies.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I'm pretty sure he was, you know, Omega Man and
all that good stuff. That's a great movie. No, it
doesn't seem like he was in uh tiring infronto. Hey,
you guys, what disaster?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
They're screaming, screaming at their device.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
That's right, Well, that's what you're supposed to do. You
got to keep us in line.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Let us know. Or maybe maybe it's our a what
do you call those things where you think something happened
and it didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Are oh the Franklin of Franklin effect, not Franklin the
guy sent to prison?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, like a maybe maybe we're having a Charlton Heston
Mandela effect.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Oh no, no, hang on.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Well Todd searching you guys, hit us up, call us
or email us your favorite Gene Hackman movie. He doesn't
have to be from the seventies. Let us know what
your favorite was. I think I'm still sticking with even
even some of his good movies from like these you know,
later years. I still go back to Posidon Adventure. That's

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one of those movies where I've probably seen a dozen
times and if it comes on again, I watch it again.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, you know, my thing messed over here?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Did you watch the Uh you didn't watch Oscars?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Earthquake, earthquake, earthquake. Yeah, yeah, there we go. I watched Okay,
this is a funny story. So Kip, you know from
the eth where else you guys all heard us talk
about Kip in the warehouse. His niece actually won an
Academy award like two years ago. I think she was

(44:26):
the set designer for that Goofy movie Everything Anywhere, all
the time, anywhere, all at one place and number third. Yeah,
she actually won an Academy award. Her and other people. Yeah,
it was a group of them. And he was telling
me Sunday I was down there. He's like, he's like, yeah,
my niece is gonna be on the Academy Awards and

(44:49):
some kind of a commercial thing. And it was a
commercial sponsored by some insurance company. And it's like, I
don't know, thirty seconds or something like that. And so
I came home and I thought, Okay, I'm going to
watch that. Hopefully I don't have to sit through a
bunch of crap. Turned the TV on. Within thirty seconds,

(45:10):
she's on and she does her little spiel and I say,
col turned it off. What's allus? Well?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
My point I was getting to was Goldie Han was
on she was one of the presenters, and so Kurt
Russell had redone beside the adventure he did, uh huh,
so there's like a modern version of oh yeah and so.
But anyway, the point was Goldie was she was looking rough.
Oh my gosh, I mean she looked, you know, she

(45:39):
looked good, but rough. I don't know how to I
don't know if that makes anse.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
She's got to be eighty.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I guess she looked she for her age. She
was okay, but she was trying to not look her age,
which made her a rough.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I guess as well, Goldie.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I'm not hating on Goldie. But anyway, how are we
doing on time over there?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Anytime we're getting closed? Uh?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Okay, you guys, let it has anybody out there been
eating Zingers and not told me? Let me know if
you guys have had a Zinger, and let me know
if anybody's had the blueberry?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:19):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I was in I was getting the zingers and I
looked up and there was these a box of moon
pies in it. They were blue and I was like,
what the heck? And I looked at the box and
it said blueberry. So I thought I gotta try me something.
They're decent.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I mean it tastes like blueberry, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Kind of a funky you know. Moonpies have that really
waxy coating on them, and it's very waxy.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
They got they got a lot of texture going on
moon pies. I love them.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
So moon pies are banana, chocolate, and vanilla and now blueberry. Oh,
I guess there's strawberry. I guess I've seen strawberry before.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That sounds good.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
But and these are these are the like mini. They
come in like a little box and there's like eight
like many, like a hundred calorie little mini.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
That would be good. I wouldn't want to eat a
whole one. Yeah, but that zinger was a lot for
me just now.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah, I bet that zinger was two hundred calories or more.
They were pretty sweet. That it had some heavy that's
probably you know, Like now that I'm thinking about it,
I think I remember peeling that frosting off and eating
it and then eating the zinger.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
Like a twinkie.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, I for some reason that it's so thick. Yeah,
you can peel it off and it's like a almost
like a taffy. It's so damn thick.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Did you guys eat singers? How about ding dongs? I
miss my ding dongs?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, now, did you know? I don't know if I
mentioned this before, and I can't find them anymore. For
a very short period of time, they made ding dongs,
but instead of having the chocolate cake in the ding dong, it.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Was the what twinky sponge So it's so it's a
twinky sponge cake but shaped like a ding dong, covered
in the chocolate of a ding dong with the ding
dong goop in the middle.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Did it have the little white squiggly lion on top?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
No, ding dong you're thinking of the cupcake?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
No, oh, that's right, cupcake. Yeah, ding dogs didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Have the square yeah, no, so, but it was and
it was it was. It was a ding dong, but
when you bit into it, it like stayed squashed because
it had because it was the sponge cake from the
They were kind of cool. It was kind of a.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Cool, weird them.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
They called them ding dongs, but I don't and they
but they didn't. I don't know. It's like I got
them and like the next next week I went in,
they were gone. I haven't seen him since yeah, anyway,
you guys, let us know if you guys are eating
the Zingas or the yeah ding dogs are still out there,
let us know, but they don't wrap them in foil anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
That was that was cool because you could play with
the foil.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, they're just in like a plastic thing like that.
So okay, you guys go and look, uh, I'll probably
have it on my YouTube channel or something somewhere where
we're eating the singers singers in the studio. And so anyway,
let us know your favorite Gene Hackman movie. Don't forget
to go over to Buzzhead Radio and hear are theories
on what happened to Jean, his wife and the dog.

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Bring it out of here, see you