Opening bands

You might me be very surprised to know who has opened for who!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, buzzheads, Welcome to the Seventies Buzz Podcast. I'm Curtis Tucker.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
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of growing up in the seventies.

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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man, Yeah, just cam, what do they call it? Hey,
Welcome to the Seventies Bug Podcast. It's weird thought. He's
got him some new yarn times. I'm gonna call. So

(01:00):
that's why you go back and get some things.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Eighty she said, She said, Yeah, so big, big apology
I guess to everybody for not doing the Big.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Scary Live last week. But we didn't hadn't found that
location that would have been worthy. I was still recovering
from my little ill mass. It was super windy that day.
It just it just didn't work out. And it was
I don't know, it was so far away from Halloween,

(01:36):
it just I don't know, the mood just wasn't quite there. Yeah,
you just can't force these things. So you messaged me
on Halloween night and asked if we were getting any
trick or treaters? How come you did that?

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Just curious because we were at Bellmart Toby Keith's, uh huh,
and there was I mean that's not a real big area,
but a real big expensive houses and it's probably kind
of more private and it's not always a gated there's
a guard okay.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah that yeah, that keeps the people down. Well, Indian
Hills was off the charts again. Well now at our end, no,
So so you know we're at the very west end
of basically you know, it's Indian Drive and then where
it splits into Wabash and goes around the Champlin Mansion.

(02:31):
So basically from the Champlain Mansion to Johnson gets heavy traffic,
and then from Johnson to Cleveland, which is where you
are gets kind of the fringe traffic. So we probably
had two hundred. Maybe that's a lot. But Keegan, who
always now every year he uses a counter, twelve hundred

(02:55):
and I think it was fifty four hegan two. Yeah,
So yeah, so they had I didn't realize he lives
directly across the street from the Gwynns Kelly. Oh okay,
so where where it splits you go, right, he's in that.
It's kind of like an old white plantation looking house. Okay, yeah, yeah,

(03:18):
so that's where Natalie lives. Now, I guess what they're collabitating.
I think so, but I saw her, She's getting all
over stuff. Yeah, so I'm assuming, who know, I maybe
I shouldn't assume. But anyway, so we you know, I don't.
I didn't, I didn't pass out Candy. I kind of
stood there with Denise for a little while and I
went to my studio, and then of course every time
they came up, the door ring would come on, so

(03:41):
I could see him on camera. It just didn't seem
like quite as many as last year. Last year, just
it seems I bet we probably had maybe closer to
three hundred. Yeah, it's such a perfect night. There was
a perfect well it was Friday night. Yeah, I think
it would have been more people on a Friday night. Yeah,
and it wasn't cold, it wasn't hot, blood and windy.
Now perfect. But I think I think because it was

(04:04):
a Friday night, there was more other stuff going on.
There was eno high football, there was trunk or tree
so there was yeah. So but I think because on
a Thursday night there's there was really nothing going on,
and so that was like the only thing to do
on a Friday night. Again, I think people might some
people were out of town. I don't know it just
but it was still, you know, a good, good Halloween weatherwise,

(04:27):
it was perfect. So I hope you guys had a
good Halloween, either trick or treating or passing out candy.
Let us know at five eight oh five, four one
three eight oh five you were Halloween with or buzz
buzzimmediate dot com My god, look at the line water
birder from today or now, uh, four minutes ago, it's

(04:50):
still got a line. Yeah, it's it's it's going around.
Well you can see where it's. Oh yeah, all the
way back to so in At, Oklahoma got our water
burger back yeah, I mean we did well. No, we
had one all the way up into the nineties. Yeah,

(05:10):
because remember it moved in after Burger King left. So anyway,
we got a new Water Burger and an Enot Oklahoma.
When a new restaurant opens, people lose their mind. People
go crazy. It's like wacky, and it'll be it'll be
a mile long line for two straight weeks. I bess

(05:34):
and then and then all of a sudden it just stops,
and you drive behy and you wonder how the place
is even staying open. A lot of times they don't.
It's in Oklahoma for you. Yeah, we got a few
phone calls and some messages, yes, but no call from
Dave Dave, and no call from Regression wocket. So it's

(06:00):
Steve's was more listened radio, I think, Yeah, But Steve
from San Anton did call talking about his stuff over there.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Uh koas he can commented on the ace episode and
you want flew over nesty Cuckoo.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
He's he has never seen the entire movie. One flow
of the Cooss you need to watch. Everybody needs to
watch at least once. Yeah, it's a little longer. And
his cousin was an acee freely solo band. Yeah. Yeah.
He said that he had seen Ace perform, you know,
within the last several years, and he didn't look like

(06:41):
he was doing too too well. Help with and we
have to go ahead and let's throw this out there.
Gretchen was talking about Ace when she was talking about
the concert where the musician didn't the same thing. He
didn't look super healthy. That was Ace. Sean Cassidy is
doing very well hopping around.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah, they're just supposed to picture him and his two
brothers and his mom. I saw that ninety something birthday.
Yeah yeah, they all look good. Yeah, so Sean's doing good.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Were we were jesting and we were just just messing
with Gretchen. Kurt Ternary messaged this. He is wanting to
make a trip to Enid and then we all hop
in a vehicle and drive up to Brayman and Blackwell.
He hasn't been up there in a while, so I
told him to come on to Enid. We'll take him

(07:30):
up to Brayman and eat it rock and bruised, and
then we can cruise through Blackwell and he's going to
try to find I think maybe where his grandparents lived
and we can hit the Brons they're in blackwell like
I used to in junior college. And then Jason and
I were kind of going back and forth, Jason Scott
because he is a Tennessee fan, and the Sinners went

(07:53):
right in there to Old Tennessee and won that game. Yeah,
they jumped up to eleven. I was kind of surprised
night was the first playoff thing. I wonder if the
Sinners made the playoff cut tonight. It all, it changes
every week now, but if they were to have the
playoff right now tonight, they were supposed to show the

(08:16):
twelve teams that would be in it. This was not
like a real playoffs. This is well, this is the again,
this is this is who's in the playoff right now.
If every team in that kept winning, they would be
in the playoff. But of course a couple of them
we're going to lose, and sure it's gonna fluctuate, but
we got to go to Alabama next week. Actually, this
next weekend is a bye week, yeah, which gives ou

(08:39):
a little time to recoup and get another bite. Yeah,
two bye weeks, and so the next week is Alabama
and then we get Missouri and LSU coming to Norman.
LSU's lost their coach, so that should be a win.
And then Missouri. Missouri is good, but there's there's still
just Missouri. So they ran, they were I don't know

(09:03):
if they still aren't. Oh, so the schedule is looking
a little easier. Yeah, after Alabama, the schedule is not
looking as bad as it did. They really should have
won the Southern or the Old miss game, but they didn't,
so we'll see what happened. So anyway, if you guys,
you guys may know who's in the playoff picture, and
because I don't, I guess I could have looked at

(09:23):
that for quickly. But anyway, so sorry about that, Jason.
And at least you got an old OU quarterback as
your coach. That's a good thing. I just can't get over.
That's Josh Shippel. He got big. I was like because
they were calling him Josh Iippel.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
I was like, oh, yeah, I remember doing this last year,
going that's it's a different Josh Iipel, right.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's the same Josh. He he's gain gained a few
so and he won. He won the last national championship
at OU. Yeah, two thousand of the goods. It was
twenty and twenty five freaking years. So if ou doesn't
win another national championship, fear pretty quick. It's kind of like,

(10:03):
you know, what was it, Harvard or whoever won all
the national championships like back in the twenties or thirty
you know, so you can't you know, at some point
you got to cut it off. And it's like, yeah,
they were good in the seventies, but you know, yeah,
so and they were so, Oh you was good in

(10:24):
the set. Oh you're real good. Yeah, they were semi
okay in the eighties. They were fairly good in the sixties.
I think they were the best in the seventies. And
why that, mister Wheelers, because that was the greatest ticket
up to bad Yeah, the old Berry Switzer days. I
guess Barry was coaching in the eighties to So anyway,

(10:45):
I think that's all of and I don't I didn't
get any emails that I'm aware of. I could have
missed a few, because I got a bazillion because I
got behind because as I got sick. But I don't
think I could have any that I missed. But if
I did, we'll catch you next week. And next week
is a booked lies these weeks or I can't believe

(11:07):
it's like November fourth already. It's crazy. Yeah, it's yeah,
flying by. So tonight's episode is iconic band pairings back
in the seventies when somebody went on tour and come
to find out, therefore, a large part of the seventies,

(11:32):
promoters and labels didn't care who toured together. They just
if they had a new band that they wanted to
get out there and get recognized, they would pair them
with anybody. So I guess buying large just the promoter
who decides who opens for who? I think so back
then now, I don't know how it is today. Yeah,

(11:55):
but I think back then or is like the label,
the label or the promoter just said, hey, you're new,
go on tour with these guys. They just send them out, so,
you know, so we're gonna discuss some of those wild parents,
some of them I didn't even realize. But as far
as the concerts that we went to, you know, I

(12:18):
cannot think of a single opening band. I was gonna say,
I wonder if can't kiss when they came to the
Lloyd Noble even had an opening band. I'm sure they did.
I don't remember who it was. It was yeah, because
that was seventy six, and so yeah, they would have
had an opening band because they were having opening bands
and seventy four. Yeah, but I didn't notice on there's

(12:39):
there's different websites that would show and so there was
some tours where bands had an opening act in one city,
but then in a few cities they didn't have an
opening act, so you know, so you never know, but
anyway it would jump to my you know, and everybody
knows this. My very first concert was Journey, and I

(13:01):
think the reason that Allen and I actually went to
Journey was because of the opening act, which was Finn
Lizzy and at that time, really the only hit that
Journey had was Wheel in the Sky, and so we
knew more Finn Lizzy songs that we knew Journey songs,
which Journey exploded immediately after that. But yeah, but we

(13:26):
really enjoyed Finn Lizzie more than we did Journey, Boys
Back in Town and Cowboys Song. That was a good concert.
And then saw Kansas in still Water and the opening
act for them was a loverboy. I didn't realize that. Yeah, Well,
and then saw Styx at the Lloyd Noble and their

(13:49):
opening act was April one. Oh, now you saw thirty
eight Special too, didn't he Uh, there's a reason you did.
I don't know that I've seen thirty eight Special. What
I thought that if I did, it would have been
in the eighty. I think those were like the only
three concerts that I went to, and one of those

(14:11):
may have even been like eighty, but they were like
seventy eight, seventy nine, and eighty right in there somewhere.
So so those were the ones that I remember. You guys,
let us know what band duos you guys remember going
to in the seventy and I don't think any of

(14:31):
these like did complete turns together. No, it was always
it seemed like it was like a partial tour or
and then it was like always just like one tour.
It's like, I don't really remember running across anything. Were
like two bands toured all the time? No, Well that
there were some that went on tours at CO headlined. Yeah,

(14:55):
so I guess those would have been to the whole
tour obviously, because it's yeah, yeah, And I didn't get
a whole big list of those, but I think I've
got a few of those Black Sabbath and Van Halen
in Europe. Yeah. See, and I didn't get a whole

(15:15):
lot of the Europe It seems like most of mine,
maybe not all of them. I guess that there's a
few from out Yeah. So some of the weirder combinations
that I discovered was Miles Davis opening for the Grateful Dead.
He's a jazz guy jazz fusion. In nineteen seventy Miles

(15:40):
Davis opened for Grateful Dead. The pairing, set up by
promoter Bill Graham, was an attempt to expose different audiences
to new music, though it was a culture clash for
some fans. So yeah, so can you imagine buying tickets
for the Grateful Dead and having to sit there not?
I mean, Miles Davis is good, but if you don't

(16:01):
like jazz, it's kind of like a yeah for the
Grateful Dead. How about the Ramones opening for Toto in
nineteen seventy nine. You know they're that's easier than Miles

(16:21):
and well, high speed punk Ramones against the polished yacht
rock sound of Toto. The headline singer reportedly apologized to
the audience after the Ramones set Oh the singer from
Toto Toto, Yeah, like he didn't know what they sounded
like or something. Well, I guess he just you could

(16:42):
probably tell by the audience's reaction that they were probably
not too happy. You know, if you're going to see
Toto again, it's kind of yacht rocky. And then all
of a sudden, the Remones came out and the Ramones
are really good. They're good, but they're like, you know,
there's no yacht rock about those guys. Know, So what

(17:02):
pairings you got over there? Stevie Wonder opening for the
Rolling Stones. Yeah, that's a little I guess that's over
I mean.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Yeah, it's you know, a little strange, a little strange.
Leonard Skinnered opening for the Who That was in seventy three.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I guess I'd be all right, that would be good
thinking about it now, but at the time it would
have been a little a little off, but not like
the Ramones and Toto or Miles and now one guy
that I for some reason, I don't even remember him

(17:45):
touring anywhere around here, but Elvis Costello opening for Tom
Petty and the Heartbreakers in nineteen seventy seven. He's a
British new wave punk artist. If you don't know who
Elvis Costello was, and then you've got the American heart
rock band Tom Petty touring together. I can see that.

(18:10):
I like evis customer, you know, I don't even I
can't even name an Elvis Costello song. I don't even
is he I don't even know is he even ever
really played on the radio. He's just one of those
guys that he always heard about and knew who he was.
But like I say, I don't remember him ever touring
anywhere near here. I may have just missed it. But

(18:34):
he's British, right, Yeah, he must have been in Ocoba
there a lot. Yeah, how about the Eagles opening for Yes,
i'd be cool. Again, some of these at the time
might have been a little strange looking back at him now,
that would be cool to see both of those guys

(18:54):
at this. But again, at that time, probably knewbody knew
who the Eagles were. But that was in seventy two,
so yeah, so a lot of people probably didn't know
any Eagles songs.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, I couldn't find so many weird ones, I said,
I said, skinnered and.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Who they could just swist I got. Those are all
just two ac DC he opened for in the seventies.
Oh yeah, A C. DC was like opening up for everybody.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Lou Reed, Oh yeah in seventy four, Susie Quatro, seventy six,
Rainbow seventy six, Deep Purple seventy six, Black of Garkansas,
Ted Dude, seventy six, Kiss in seventy seven, Black Sabbath,
Aerosmith Borne.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
It just goes on and on and on and on,
and I guess it took a thing a while to
get their traction. If they're opening, I mean it opened
for Death Leopard in seventy nine.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I thought they were bigger than I was gonna say.
By seventy nine, Yeah, I would think they we maybe not.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Wow, Yeah, they must have just finally got their tracks
after the eies.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
How about Judas Priest opening for Ario Speedwagon in nineteen
seventy seven. That's heavy metal versus American arena rock. Despite
the genre of difference. Areo Speedwagons front man Kevin Cronin
recalled enjoying the energy from Judas Priests or Kevin I

(20:28):
never I still haven't looked that up to see what happened,
what all that was about, why he's no longer in
the band. Good look that up. Jay Giles Band opening
for Jethrow Tall in nineteen seventy six. I'd rather watch
Jake Ousman, I would do. I never was all fan. Yeah,

(20:50):
I think all of his songs. I had lots, oh everyone, Yeah,
that was him. It was the cloudiest I think. Yeah.
They were American blues rock band and he was a
British progressive rock star known for his flute sotos. It
was a fantist. The contrast and styles was notable for attendees.

(21:11):
I bet Rush opening for kids in seventy four, Yeah,
I mean a little different. It's different, but again at
the time it would have seemed weird, and especially if
you didn't know any Rush songs. Looking back at it now,
I mean that would be like a thousand dollars a

(21:31):
ticket concert. I mean, and Russia still turn or turn
again whether Yeah, they're with the new drummer female female drummer. Yeah,
because they lost a meal. Now. I respect Rush and
I think they're great musicians. I just never liked any
of their songs. State loved him, Yeah, he is. I

(21:53):
just I just don't know. I just there just wasn't
for some reason, that sound and that vibe. I just
never I just never could get into It's the same
with it. It's kind of like the same with the Police.
For me, I could never get into the Police. Well,
Rush was one of those bands you can never tell
what they were singing.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
I mean most but I'd say maybe Tom tom so yeah, yeah,
maybe every third phrase you can catch. I remember we
used to buy those music books. Yeah, they had all
the lyrics and those cheap music in them and stuff like,
oh that's what they were saying. Oh yeah, unlike you know,

(22:38):
you know every word in an Eagles song.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, even though it took us a while to figure
out what a warm kalito was a warm, what a
kalido was? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I again, and
so so this new tour, I just I don't know
that I'd go see Rush. Yeah, tell everybody's gonna be
walkers the audience, oh yeah, as far as the Yeah,
but no, those guys look pretty healthy. Yeah, so they're

(23:03):
And I saw an interview with him, and I love
them and they're great artists and everything. I just know,
just wasn't into the sound. Did you mention Van Halen
opening for Black Sabbath a bit? They did. They opened
for him in nineteen seventy eight. Van Halen was relatively
unknown from Los Angeles. They were basically at that point

(23:26):
had just stopped being a bar band, and they toured
with the heavy metal icons Black Sabbath. The young band
studied the headliner's techniques for getting the crowd going. Yeah,
that was that European tour. They also opened for Journey
in seventy eight, which is that kind of goes together?

(23:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that while thinking about some of
these huge bands being opening acts, Yeah yeah, like Kiss
and Van Aalen and Hee DC and great, Well how
about this one. Queen was the opening act for Manta
hoopel Oh wow in nineteen seventy four. And I can

(24:12):
see that. I mean, yeah, I can see it's a
good combo. But before they were global superstars, Queen toured
the US as the opening act for Monta Hoop. Then
Lizzie opened for Queen in seventy seven. Oh man, that
would have been a concert, Holy moly. And then you
mentioned Leonard skinnerd opened for The Who in seventy three.

(24:33):
That was during their QUADRAPHINIAU. Sammy Hagar opened for Kiss
in seventy sixteen seventy seven. Now is that as Sammy
or as Montrose. You know, I don't know, As you said, Sammy,
I'm assuming because I've got Mantra. Oh yeah. So Mantrose
opened for Steely Dan in seventy four, and that was

(24:54):
Sammy Hagar was the front man for Montrose back in
the day. Read. The Walter Becker and Donald Fagan led
group had released three albums at that point, each gaining
more buzz. It was an opportunity for Montrose to split
up three years later.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
And then Sammy became the red Rocker, That's what I say,
and him and Michael or it's still working.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah. What are they doing? Though? Are they doing? Can
they do Dan Hamlen's stuff? Only certain songs? I read
something about it the other day where wolf Gang is
the only one I think that has the rights to
sing all Van Halen songs and I'm probably his uncle

(25:47):
Alex Alex. But Sammy does not, only certain songs that
I think he and And when it became Van Hagar,
did they do songs like Jump? I don't know if
they did Jump, but they did older Van Halen song.
I mean, who's you know? Same? I love Samibody, he

(26:10):
could I don't think he could do Jump? Yeah, I
don't I don't know what songs they I'm assuming now
maybe they didn't, but I'm assuming they had to have
done some old school Yeah, I had to. Let's see
Manta hoopel. How about here's one for you. Dion Dion Dion,

(26:32):
the do Wop Dude, opened for Frank Zappa in nineteen
seventy four. The first part of Dion's career was defined
by do wop, first with the group The Belmonts and
then as a successful solo artist, But as the years
went on, he explored different musical avenues, which led to
him opening for friend Zappa in seventy four. He said,

(26:56):
I was doing coffee houses with my guitar and he
liked it, Dion explained to the Village Voice in twenty
twenty two. Some of Zappa's fans didn't take to Dion.
One attendee described the audience in Indiapolis as rude and disrespectful,
which I you know, I can kind of understand.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Kiss open for Zezy Top in seventy four, that's crazy,
and that seems so weird.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
It just seems weird with I wonder like what their
act was like when they were an opening act. Surely
they didn't have the like stage stuff when they became. Yeah,
but they were in costume. Yeah, but I'm sure that
it was probably quite toned down version. It would be

(27:47):
my guest, but maybe not. Yeah. I mean it was
seventy four, so they had only been around a year. Yeah,
Don McClain opening act for The James Game nineteen seventy one.
And you know who the league guitarist for The James
Gang was. I did know that. Joe Walsh. Yes, let's see.

(28:10):
They toured together October seventy one at Toronto's Massey Hall.
It's unclear how the singer songwriter had landed the gig.
His hit song was just on its way to becoming
a huge number one American pie. It seems Yeah, that
kind of seems though, kind of okay. If I went
to see The James Gang and Don McLean open, I'd

(28:32):
be okay with that. Sure, here's a weird one for you.
Def Leopard opened for the Human League member of the
Human League in seventy eight. The interesting thing about the
seventy eight pairing of def Leppard and the Human League
is neither band had found much success at that point.

(28:53):
They were both Sheffield bands trying to make it big.
According to Leppard singer Joe Elliott, the venue where they
where their joint gig took place was one where artists
didn't get paid to play, but admission was free, so
there was a great opportunity to play for lots of
potential fans. We had a kind of fan base of
friends that came down and just took over the front

(29:16):
bit and made noise and made us feel important. Elliott recalled, Wow, yeah,
maybe they had like tapes and stuff in their trunks
and selling arkinder or something.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, it's like, why play if you're not gonna make
any money? Okay, you gotta pay your dues. And I
guess back then you could make money selling albums. So
I just interviewed the guy here in town that wrote
the Enid song, the country song. Oh yeah, I haven't
heard all that, and I'm like, and he's not really

(29:50):
a you know, he doesn't like sing. He doesn't he
hasn't like been out at bars and sing. I'm like,
how you recorded all these songs? How are you gonna
make money? You know, there's no album at this point,
and they're on Spotify, and it's like he's just almost
not gonna make any money. I just I feel sorry

(30:11):
for some of these artists these days, I guess, and
I just saw. I don't remember what group it was.
It wasn't like a super well known band, but they
just pulled all of their music off of Spotify. Real. Yeah,
So if if this whole Spotify thing doesn't turn around,
when people start making money, maybe the artists will pull

(30:32):
their stuff off and figure out a way of making
You would think one of these platforms would would pay
a decent amount of money. Yeah, yeah, I don't know
how much profit Spotify makes, but surely they make enough
that they could pay because they have commercials well, and
subscribers and subscribers and yeah, so if you don't want commercials,

(30:56):
you can, I guess, subscribe and pay a month league
fee or whatever. It's got to be gozillions.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
I mean, you know, I long time ago, you know askcap,
you know, keeps tracking stuff. I heard the number like
every time I saw like a Rolling Stone song gets played, it.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Was like a quarter or something. Yeah, I mean, and
that's a lot of money though, Yeah, And because it
gets played, you know, one hundred thousand times in a
year or more, you know, over the thousands of radio stations.
How they kept track of that back then, I don't know.
Any Yeah, when I talked to his name is Ryan

(31:35):
Nelson here in town, and I talk to him about that.
So his song. So when when you record a song
now and you release.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
It, it's got code now, I don't know back back
in the day, but now it's got code embedded in it.
And when radio stations play the song, it reads the
code and automatically sends something to ask kapp or whoever
and says, okay, this song was played once, and then
it keeps track of the artists how much the artist makes,

(32:04):
and the artist gets a check so they can still
make money if their music is played on radio. It's
just people like Christopher Todd, you know, without somebody getting
out there and knocking on doors and promoting it, his
music's probably never going to get played on the radio, right,
So he's going to have to make money off of

(32:25):
CD and record sales, and he's you know, he's not
going to tour.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
So I don't know. I don't know. It's a different
world than it was back then. Elton John opened for
Derek and the Domino nineteen seventy that, yeah, that would
have been a good pairing. Elton John had three albums
under his belt, he was far from being a household name.

(32:51):
He opened for Eric Clapton's Derek and the Dominoes that
year and watched them intently as they played. They were phenomenal.
From the side of the state. I took mental notes
of their performance. It was their keyboard player, Bobby Whitlock,
that I watched like a hawk. John wrote in his autobiography,
you watched and you learned from the people that had

(33:12):
more experience than you. Absolutely so in everything, in all
things now, I don't exactly know who the Jam is,
but the Jam opened for Blue Oyster Cult in seventy eight.
Of the Jam, I guess they were a British band
and that was their introduction to the US audience. What

(33:33):
was the main UFO? I remember UFO. I vaguely remember
the UFO. I don't remember what song they had, but
I remember I remember UFO ac DC open form at
seventy nine. Oh wow, that's crazy, Yeah, I would have thought.
Yeah again, I guess maybe ac DC didn't get really
big till the early eighties. I remember I wore out

(33:56):
three back in black cassette tapes. The eighties. Well, it
would have been. We were in high school. I had
my truck, my first truck, and I bought that, like
seventy nine, they must have just been on the verge
of breaking out.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Well, it's probably because I bought three of their ten
There you go. I literally wore out three cassette tapes my.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Chevy Truck three on the tree, Chevvy Jefvy. Here's a
weird one. Edna James. Oh yeah, hoping for the Rolling
Stones in nineteen seventy eighth At last Wow. Edna James
had her first kids in the nineteen fifties, years before
The Rolling Stones were even a band. The Stones were

(34:44):
deeply intrigued by American blues, gospel, and jazz artists including James,
and never hid their love for them. As Keith Richards
would say in his twenty ten book Life, James had
a voice that could take you to hell or take
you to heaven. In nineteen seventy eight, The Stones paid
back her influence by inviting her to open at some shows. Later.

(35:08):
She later recorded a cover of The Stones Miss You
on her two thousand album. So she was older, Yeah,
she had to have been pretty old. Yeah, they're probably
well I think they were because I think she really
influenced them. But just now, that would have been a weird.
I mean kind of an homage. Yeah, now if you

(35:28):
knew the story and the stones somehow explained it in interviews,
but just showing up and having an eed open would
have been a little weird. I would like to just
go and see her. Yeah now. Yeah, again, A lot
of these would have been great just on their own,
but together just a little weird. How about Donovan? Oh Yeah?

(35:49):
Opening for Yes in nineteen seventy seven. Donovan opened shows
for Yes. Going for the One Track in nineteen seventy
seven to two took the veteran artists across US, Canada
and Europe. Donovan later credited his friend Chris Squire, Yes,
his co founding bass player, as someone who helped him

(36:09):
learn how to nail a vocal above the loud guitars
in the rock band Oh God, Donovan, I didn't know
Donovan was touring in the seventy seven That's crazy. Roxy
Music opened for Death Row Tall in seventy two. How
you haven't first time Roxy Music appeared to Madison Square

(36:32):
Guard in seventy two. They opened for Death Row Tall
the band played for just twenty five minutes, told played
for one hundred and thirty minutes, but that didn't mark
the end for Roxy music. Bigger and better things were
to come. Look at that, I do not recognize her.

(36:53):
I can't think of what they had. Seemed like they
had a big hit there in the seventies. Let's see,
how about see Virginia playing Ajamira Rama, ijamatter do the
strand street life. All I want is you, the thrill
of it all. Love is a drug. Both owned trash dance.

(37:16):
I don't recognize name, and I bet I heard. I
was gonna say, there's got to be one one hit
we probably would recognize. Here's a pretty good combination. Emmy
Lou Harris and the James Gang opened for Elton John
in seventy five. You're probably familiar with Elton John's legendary

(37:38):
performance at the Los Angeles Dodgers Stadium in seventy five,
but did you know the opening sets were Emmy Lou
Harris and the James Gang. As John and his songwriting
partner Bernie Tappin saw it, they owed a lot to
American artists and wanted to repay the favor. From day one,
we borrowed from everything that was good about American music.

(37:59):
Topping said eighteen. So that was at that Big Dodgers.
Yeah yeah, yeah, where he didn't Elton have on the
Dodger's uniform during part of that concert? Yeah it, I'll
be dazzled. Yeah. Atlantic Atlanta Rhythm Section opened for Alice

(38:19):
Cooper in nineteen seventy seven. Wow. They had done the
same for The Who and the Rolling Stones. But in
seventy seven Atlanta Rhythm Section began having some chart success
and for some reason they were paired up with the
shop rocker Cooper for a series of dates that would
have been a little weird. And then I already said

(38:43):
Montrose opened for Steely Dan in seventy four, and then
I think you mentioned and then yeah, Queen opening for
Finn Lizzie in seventy seven. It was nicknamed the Queen
Lizzie Tour. It's kind of interesting. Okay, apparently this is there.

(39:07):
It's called Jealous Guys, one of their big hits. Yeah. Well,
I was looking for their number one head and depending
on which website you went to, one of those hang
on commercial. We don't want those stinking commercials. We're about

(39:28):
to hear roxy, So everybody screaming at their device out
there the song is come on he oh sorry. Todd's
got his new uh hearing aids and so his phone

(39:51):
is Bluetooth things. So he's I'm like, yeah, that sounds
pretty good. You like that, Curtis, I'm like watching him,
like what there? Hang on? Let me disconne. So we're
not in on the joke. I don't know how the
discat a babe, babe, Yeah, that's all right, I think

(40:12):
I can. Here. Here's one for you. This would be
a Christopher Todd dream concert. Kiss opening for Cheap Trick. Yeah,
that was a seventy seven and then, or maybe they
didn't open. Maybe they just toured together because it was
the Love Gun tour. Why I got it. The Cheap

(40:33):
Trick opened for Kiss in seventy seven. I've got Kiss
and Cheap Tricks, So maybe they maybe it wasn't like
really an opening act. Maybe it was they were touring together.
I bet okay, this will driving me nuts. Give me
a second. Okay, here's one for you. Do you remember
bow Wow? No, you don't remember bow Wow. Bow Wow

(40:54):
opened for Kiss in nineteen seventy eight. They were kind
of a. Oh, I don't even know how to describe them.
Not a rock and roll band, that's for sure. Bow
wow bow wow. Yeah, kind of more British type thing.

(41:15):
The Alman Brothers opened for Doctor John or not. Actually
they toured together in the early seventies. That would have
been a good combo. Alice Cooper toured with bands like
Free and Cactus in the early seventies and later with
Susie Quatro, which you had mentioned Aerosmith. Aerosmith was kind

(41:36):
of like ACDC. Aerosmith opened for tons of bands during
their first few years, trying to get things going. I
ran across this one. The Commodores opened for the Jackson
five in nineteen seventy three. Then that seemed a little weird.
Wow yeah, seventy three in seventy three, so I guess

(41:59):
they must have not had any really big hits maybe,
or maybe Jackson five is bigger seventy three. Yeah, they
were pretty big in seventy three. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna
try my bluetooth off. Turn it off, turn it off.
Foreigner opened for the Rolling Stone ramones H thurd Up.

(42:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that. I remember slow dancing
of this song. The seventies looks very eighties when here
was that they opened for somebody who was a seventy two.

(42:58):
That seems weird, Yeah, because I kind of remember them
being an eighties almost an eighties fan. Oh you know
what this may be in the eighties, because I just
googled their number one song. That's what that's gotta be.
I I didn't know. I wouldn't have thought they had
been together since seventy two. I guess. I mean I
to me, Roxy Music was like a seventy nine. Yeah, wow,

(43:22):
that would be I can't believe they're together at seventy two.
That's pretty crazy. Wat's up? Moving? Interesting? What other? I
have a few more of the cars? This would have
been pretty cool, the cars opening for Kansas. Oh wow,
I love the cars well and we loved Kansas. That
would have been a good well year was I I

(43:43):
don't have the year on that. Bob Singer opened for
The Faces in seventy four. Faces the Faces was poop
Steve Winwood oh and then he then they broke up
and he and so there may there may have been
somebody else famous in the Rod Stewart I think was

(44:04):
in the Faces. Rod Stewart Steve Winwood. Yeah, I think so.
Huh yeah, uh yes, open for the Eagles and for
Emerson Lake and Palmer. Huh yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
See who see what Ronnie Wood, Roger, Ronnie Lane.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Was Steve Winwood in there? No, No, you're thinking of
Ronnie Wood Ronnie Wood mhmm, Ronnie Woodson he's in uh
Ronnie Woods? Uh what else is he? Didn't he? It
was when he distribt Rolling Stones. Yeah, I wonder what

(44:50):
we're trying to think of what band Steve Winwood was in. Uh,
I know, I know anyway. Yeah, so so you've heard
the Face. I don't know that they really had any
super big hits. I think they had one good hit
Outlaws Open for thirty eight special Leonard Skinner. We talked

(45:13):
about open for the Who. Molly Hatchett opened for Here's
One for You. Molly Hatchett opened for the Allman Brothers band. Yeah,
I can see that.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Here, here's the Here's there The Faces number one song
in nineteen seventy one called stay with Me.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna gotta get rid of the damn commercials.
Stay with me, Stay with me, stay with Me?

Speaker 9 (45:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, that sounds very early Stone. I mean,
if you just played that for me right now, I
say Lester Strong because the pony would the way till
Rod starts singing, yeah great, you all know it?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah, and then go with me. Uh. Some bands that
were in festivals together U z C. Top Alman Brothers,
fog Cat, Marshall, Tucker Band, Robin Trauer and Black Sabbath
were frequently found on multiple band bills and festival lineups,

(46:55):
and then led Zeppelin, Jethrow Tall, Neil Young and Deep Purple.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Were often also on the same bill at certain festival.
Now I came across this little tidbit twice of the
bands turing together. It didn't have a year Pink Floyd, led.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Zeppelin and Wrong stonech Holy moly. I was like, that
can't be right. So I looked some more and like, yeah,
there's somebody else said that, And I'm like, I guess
it happened out on't a wind or rare. It must have.
I had to have been kind of like a idea.
I can't see being able to afford to go see
all three of those guys. Well, but yeah, I've been
in the seventies. I was saying seven dollars a ticket,

(47:33):
so that's true. I just can't imagine those three egos,
you know, touring on a regular basis. I can see
him at a festival, sure, but yeah, just on a
regular tour and that. And you know there are stories
of these bands touring together and the egos of the

(47:56):
the big acts getting bruised by the open act being
really good with them Rizzi, Yeah, stuff like that. So
I've heard, you know, we've heard stories of Bush stuff
like that. So it's gonna happen. Yeah. So that's my list.
I got some more CDC. But you know, it just
goes on and on. It's just interesting. Yeah, I don't know.

(48:20):
I just wish it's kind of like for us or
for me. We missed concerts by about probably three to
five years. You know, had we been just a few
years younger, older, yeah, we'd have gone to more. Yeah,

(48:41):
I just like brothers age.

Speaker 8 (48:43):
Yeah, I mean we couldn't We couldn't drive until on
what seventy eight, yeah, seventy seventy nine, So so seeing
now we you know, we saw concerts in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
But yeah, well one got his lesons earlier. He was
a he was exactly a year older than state and
so yeah, and I don't think my mom even knew
we went to Journey. I think he and I just
he bought tickets. Back then, you just you called on
the phone when tickets went on sale. You could call
on the phone or like a we'll call yeah, And

(49:18):
I think he just called and got tickets and we
just hopped into his Sunbird and or you could go
to the stadium and buy them. Yeah, I can't remember
which we did, but anyway, yeah, we just hopped in
and went down and saw the concert and came back
and you know what it was like like it wasn't
really that big a deal. I mean, but I don't think.
I don't think I told my mom that I went.

(49:39):
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
I no cell phones, no, yeah, no no tracking devices, tracking,
no following, no, no one, no nothing.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
But okay, I want to get rested. Yeah, you guys,
let us know what band pairings you guys actually saw
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