Your Questions Answered | The 7th Rule Mailbag Episode #2 | T7R #356

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is your favorite Guynan moment? Which is your least
favorite TNG episode? If you were to do a podcast
covering something other than Star Trek, what would it be? Hello, everybody,
Welcome to the Seventh Rule. Was sar roklofton Hello, Hello,
My name is Ryan T. Huskin. Today we are doing

(00:21):
a male bag episode. We're between The Next Generation season
five and season six, so it is time for a
male bag episode. The last time we did one actually
was with Denise Crosby and Melissa It was after season
two of the Next Generation, one hundred episodes ago, maybe
ninety nine, but about that. So, everybody, please make sure

(00:42):
you like this video. Subscribe to the channel, hit the
bellicon for notifications. If you're listening in, give us five
star rating and a nice review. We'd really appreciate it,
and visit us on patreon dot com slash the Seventh
Rule please, that would be awesome. Come be our friends
and help support the show. Sirak, did you like those
first three questions? How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I did like those.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I was like, is he gonna have trivioids for the
mail bag? Saying you did? You did good job? Thanks,
I'm doing great I'm doing great.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
How about you doing just fine? Thanks very much? Confession,
I made those questions up. But I bet that people
right now are thinking, damn, I wish I had asked
that question. Those are good, Those are good questions, and
to be honest, I wouldn't mind answering those questions. Those
are fun questions. Maybe people did ask those I don't know,

(01:32):
but we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Unfortunately thinking what would I do? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Unfortunately we may not be answering those questions unless you
guys answered or asked them yourselves. So, Siroc, let's give
a little backdrop here. We've been doing this for a
little over six and a half years. It's been quite
a journey. People are always asking us questions in the comments.

(02:04):
Sometimes we answer, sometimes we don't. Sometimes they're rhetorical. Sometimes
they're like, why don't you get a life, buddy? But
can you just talk to everybody a little bit about
just maybe the last six and a half years, you
know what this journey's been.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, this journey has been something that I didn't expect.
You know, just getting into it has really allowed me
to have a new understanding and appreciation for Star Trek
and episodes that's one thing. And I felt like I've
grown closer to the fans that watched the show and

(02:47):
the people that support our podcast, just because I understand
some of those inside jokes that I.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Like.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Darmock is the big one.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's probably I beg you yeah, because I used to
see people with that all the time, with the Darmack
shirts on and just yeah, and I would always, you know,
just wonder why is that so important, you know, and
what what does that refer to? So, you know, part
of the journey is really just getting to know all
of the seventh rulers. You know. Obviously, losing Aaron is

(03:24):
something that I will reflect on as this show, having
you know, an attachment to him. But you know, I
feel like I've grown and I feel like this journey
has been It's been a special one that led me
to other things that I didn't imagine as far as

(03:46):
relationships and friendships and you know, general appreciation for the material.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Mm hmm. It's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
So this is a very very rare mail Bag episode.
I think I think it is our second mail Bag
episode ever in six and a half years and over
five hundred episodes, So everybody we are listening, you know,
ask questions. Someday we will answer them. But today we

(04:19):
are going to answer the questions that the people have
asked in the last two or three days. We have
not vetted these. We will try to get to as
many as we can, and uh, let's just see how
it goes. Maybe we should have vetted, all right. Question
number one is for Sirak. It's from Eric L. Escalona.

(04:45):
How do you feel about crossover episodes in general, classic
characters guest starring in TNG era episodes and who would
you have wanted from the classic series in Deep Space nine?
That's an awesome question. So you know how like Bones
was in the first episode of TNG, right, things like that,
or like how Card was yep, Spock was in TNG

(05:09):
Picard was in the first episode of Deep Space nine, right,
So what do you think about those kind of crossover
episodes and who would you like to have seen from
the original series in Deep Space nine?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Okay, Well, for the crossover episodes, I think they're fun
and interesting. I enjoy them, and I feel like, yeah,
I feel like for the most part, what they do
is they they let us know that the universe that's

(05:49):
been created is not separate. You know that this TG
universe is not separate from the original series universe, or
are not floating in you know, different parts of space
that they all come back to Central Command. They all
know each other or know of each other, and there's

(06:11):
a level of like kinsmanship and camaraderie there when you
see two captains from two different shows getting together, or
two different characters from different generations of shows interacting with
each other. Matter of fact, I think it was done
recently with the two new shows. Yeah, I remember the

(06:34):
crossover with lower decks and Strange New Worlds, and I
thought that was extremely clever. If I'm not mistaken Jonathan Frakestor, I.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Was just gonna say that, Yeah, so that's almost kind
of like a two and a half crossover, right.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, right, that's that's that's all the crosses. So yeah,
I think that that is you know, and I loved
that episode. I thought that episode was just amazing and
it gave me any you know, everything I want was
in that episode. Then I also think about the trouble
with triples and you know how they got sis go
with the original cast, So all of it is great.

(07:15):
I mean, there's two answers that come to mind for
the episode people that I would like to see, and
one of them is I would have liked to see
Spock cross over onto DS nine. Wow. Cool, that's uh.
I think that would have been a good crossover. And
then in my own small little universe as a character,

(07:38):
I think it would have been cool to see Will
Wheaton and Jake crossover and hang out, have a moment
of hanging out and just let's see what that looks like.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Damn, I'm picturing it when you're saying that, I'm picturing
Wesley goes to you, because you know, you're on a
stage station, he's on a ship. He's going to you.
He would be he would be maybe a few years
older than you, right, So yeah, but you can picture it,

(08:16):
you know, like he would maybe be an ensign or
you know, a cadet or something like that. You know
that that could be really cool that I can I
can picture a few possible ways that could go.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
All right, yeah, I see, I can see it.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
But Spock. I was actually surprised by the spot with
the Spock answer, uh, because I hadn't really thought of that,
because you know, he was already on the next generation
but that would be really cool because it was never
really a Vulcan presence on Deep Space nine like there
was in original series. Uh, data was kind of the

(08:57):
Spock in Next Generation Odo was the closest thing to
Spokandy's face. Nine Voyager has Tubac. Of course, Enterprise has
to Paul good One. Very cool.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean I just like Spock as a character,
so it's always been my favorite characters.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
All right, Next question, Oh, Gabe Sciliano, guess where he
got his last name? What is your favorite part of
going to conventions? And will we see you guys in
Jersey in September? I believe that is September sixth and

(09:40):
seventh in Whippany, New Jersey. Sorak, What is your favorite
thing about going to conventions?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I mean, without a doubt, it's meeting people in different places.
I mean, that's that's it right there. It's you know,
being in a different city, taking a temperature of that
city and the vibe there and also the people there.
And that's my favorite thing to do is you know,

(10:10):
meet new people, talk to them about their professions. You know,
I meet all types of people, you know, professors and
medical personnel and you know, firefighters and military and federal
agents and bounty hunters, I mean all types of people.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Have we met Have you met a bounty hunter at
a convention?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I've met some US Marshals. I've met a lot of
people at these conventions, and you know, including people that
are involved in the space industry, that work for jp
L and things like that. So that's my favorite thing
is meeting people. I enjoy it in connections with people.

(11:01):
I'm joy listening to how Star Trek influenced their life
and altered their trajectory of their life, you know, maybe
influenced what studied, what they studied in school, and what
profession they chose, and listening to those stories is great.
And also reconnecting with the friends that I already know,
you know, people that are part of the Seventh Pool

(11:21):
family and the tjs of the world, you know, the
Anne Maries and the doctor Mohammad Nor's and just our
whole extended family. So that to me, given hugs and
you know, spending quality time in face to face is

(11:41):
what it is most exciting to me. M h.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, you know, there's so many things for me about
going to Star Trek conventions. For me, I have definitely
a different experience than Sarak does because I go in
as a fan, and so Sarah gets to walk in
and a thousand people just love him. Ah, but you

(12:09):
are because you know what's not to love. Let's be honest,
it's amazing. When I walk in, I'm one of the
guys doing the love. I'm like, oh my god, it
is this guy. It's this guy, you know what I mean.
So it's really cool. I mean, one of the things
I love the most is seeing Sarak getting the love
that he deserves. First of all, when I see him
with a long ass line, I'm like, Damn, that's my guy,

(12:31):
you know, Like I there's really almost nothing cooler than
seeing Sarak getting the love that he deserves. And I
hope it continues to climb and grow as people. Really,
I feel like the Jake Cisco character is a character,
like quite a few others in Star Trek history, that
ages well, ages like fine wine. People appreciate the character

(12:57):
more as time goes on. I think Wesley cry another
one of those where you know there's some that are
obvious wharf people. There was nobody that was like, oh,
I thought Warf sucked twenty years ago, but now I'm
starting to come around. No, everybody loved Warf from the beginning, right,
But there are other characters that people liked them, and
as time went on they like them more and more

(13:18):
and more, and they just kind of aged well. I
think I think Jake Cisco is one of those. So
maybe now. Obviously, the big thing and the standard answer
I would always give, which is the most true, is
just for me going to a convention, it's just about
the people, meeting people, seeing happy people, watching people be happy,

(13:40):
a good vibe, making friends. I mean, it's really just
the people. That's the obvious answer, that's the flat answer.
But something that's developed more recently in the last few
years that may almost now be at the top. It's
a very specific thing. It's when, I mean, when people

(14:03):
come up and they say, sirac, I love your show,
be it Deep Space nine or the Seventh Rule. I
love that when people come up to me and say, hey,
I watch the Seventh Rule, er, I listen to Seventh RULEER.
I love It's amazing if it feels nice. But better
than that by a mile is when I see people
go up to our free for All people or our

(14:27):
roundtable people and recognize them. They go, whoa, you're TJ.
Jackson Bay from Missouri, or that's England out in Wales,
you know, like, yeah, that's that's at the tip of
the spear, that's at the top of the pyramid. The
best thing in the world. So please, everybody, do not
be shy. If you see somebody that you've seen on

(14:50):
the seventh Rule, you see the Medican venge, go say hi.
There's zero percent of them that won't like that. Trust me,
they're all super nice. They will appreciate it, and they'll
be happy to hear from you. So go do it.
It makes everybody, It makes you happy, makes them happy,
It makes us happy to see it, doesn't it rock.
We're like proud Papa's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, when you were saying that, just you know, people's
faces were flashing in my head and yeah, you know,
it's just it's just a special, a special thing. I
was thinking of Joel Palcarati and Mike You Yeah, Stephanie Baker,
and you know, a lot of a lot of people

(15:34):
that we we love dearly. You know Vet black Man,
who you know, there's always a joy to see.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
So yes, she'll have a table at STLV. Everybody go
check out the sci Fi Sista's table at STLV and
panel at STLV. So check that out. They'll be there. Yeah,
we love them. That was a great question. The only
thing I don't like about that question is that I
feel like we could talk about that for thirty minutes

(16:01):
and we can't. We got to move on.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean, you could ask me the opposite of that
question is what do I at least like about it too?
You know? And I was thinking, uh, soggy hotel beds.
You know, they're like droopy in the middle, not wet, soggy,

(16:26):
but just like, okay, not flat beds. You know, I've
gotten to so many hotel.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Beds, old ass mattress Man.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, you get into it.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's like a cereal bull. You pull to the middle
and you're like, what.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
The hell, dude. I had a bed like that when
I was living in France for a little while, in
the south of France in exem Provence, and I had
to get an apartment that was already furnished, and that
bed was like that. Yeah. I was like, I felt
like I was sleeping in the gutter. I was just like,
I laid it.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Right it.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm like, oh, I'm like a taco. This is gross. Yeah,
I'm like, did Germany march directly through the middle of
this mattress?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's I hate uncomfortable beds like that. I'm like, seriously,
what is the There has to be a time, woman
in which you can you have to replace this bed.
It can't it can't be like this.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, anyway, soggy? All right? Next is Peter Kufaro asks, Oh,
these guys are asking good ones. Actually the question is
would it By the way, he's one of our top

(17:44):
commenters with three thousand, three and eighty two points. Not
I'm exactly sure what that means, but that is a
large number. It's larger than any number of anybody here.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Wow, shut out.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, Peter, top commenter, top person, top member. His question is,
would it be possible for Avery Brooks to appear on
the seventh rule, even if it is a pre recorded message,
just to let us all know he's doing good? Sarah,

(18:20):
I feel like this is your question to answer, but
before you answer it, let's answer the second half for Avery.
How is Avery doing?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Avery's doing well? Right, He's in good spirits and you
sharp as a tack. And for that question, I I
won't say it's not possible, because I believed in possibilities
and if you can think it, then it can it
can exist, and so I will say that it is possible.

(18:56):
Is it likely, not very like, but definitely possible. And
Peter that I mean, you're expressing something that I've heard
from a lot of people that you wish to send
their you know, warm regards to Avery when they see me,
they say, you know, they want to send us their love.

(19:18):
They want to make sure that he is okay and
know that he's doing well and he's well being as fine.
And that's something that is the common thing from from people.
And I know that he appreciates the love. I appreciate
the love and people's kind thoughts, and so I think,
you know, all of that is passed along forward the

(19:41):
energy of those kinds of sentiments, and make sure it's
always pass forward. I don't know how much he gets
in his personal life from just you know, being at
the grocery store and people telling him how much you know,
they meant to them, but I do my best to
convey that for on behalf of people like you, Peter,
So thank you for those well wishes and those warm regards.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, that's great. We'll call it deep space point nine
percent chance slightly less than chance there is. Yeah, man,
but that would be the greatest day of my life.
I'll tell you that much. All right. Up next, Alex

(20:30):
Patnik asks, there's a good one for you, so rock
for both of us, I keep putting you on the
spot making your answer these The question is how is
data powered? Does he need to recharge?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Oh, that's a good one. I assume that data has
to recharge at some point.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I've seen him. I mean, he's definitely been plugged in,
but that was to go into the computer. But yeah,
I don't think he's I think he's I think they've
said before that he can go on forever. I mean,
that's what Tasha said. But the point is that, yeah,

(21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, you know, let's just say that, you know, you
don't want to know where the plug is. No, No,
I don't know. I don't know. But I would imagine
that for one, he would be some kind of solar
power would be part of him, right, And the other

(21:40):
thing is there's another kind of power which is based
on kinetic energy, and I wonder if he has that kind.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Of interesting so while he walks, it also recharges his
batteries for example, or any movement. Oh man, that's brilliant.
And then it's just like forever.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right right, there's right. There's several ways to I would
assume that he has several sources of power, maybe one
directly charging from a direct charger like outlet type thing,
but I imagine he would also have some solar abatabilities. Are
also some kind of kinetic charging abilities, which you know

(22:25):
some electric bicycles have this kinetic charging ability and stuff.
So I imagine it's way more advanced by the time
we get the data.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, I had the data. Great, Uh okay. Next is
Crawford King asks who was your favorite featured guest that
was standing? Does Ryan's cuteness only affect me? I did
not add ad that, by the way, thank you, Yeah right,
Crawford King srok. You don't have to answer that question,

(22:59):
but we will answer the first part. Thanks Crawford. Who
was your favorite feature guest? That's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
On all the shows, on everything so much.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's all he asks is who was I mean? For me?
One of the first thing that pops out is Leonard Crowfoot.
We really loved Leonard Crowfoot because of his story. I
felt like the next generation first season guests that we
had were just like a revelation. It was weird. It

(23:37):
was like, right in that first season we had five,
six or seven like really good, heartfelt, almost life altering
kind of guests for not very good episodes. So thank
god we got them. And then and then it feels
like all the writers, you know, the iras, the Robert Wolf's,

(24:02):
the writers of like the new shows like Strange New
Worlds have been unbelievable. What do you think is rock?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I think you're interpreting the question a different way than
I heard the question. I heard featured guests, meaning like
who was in the episode guest a guest star being
featured in an episode, but it could also be somebody
that we've featured as a guest on our show. So

(24:30):
I can see where the interpretation. That's why I was like, oh,
he's interpreting different than I did.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Actually, just yeah, yeah, well I like that question too.
That's a fun one.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah. And so it's like, I mean, there's it's almost
too difficult to answer that question, you know, because we've
had so many people, you know, grace us with their time,
and and and stories and give us personal in memories
about their their life experiences, the trauma that they used,

(25:05):
and and two to make the role more impactful. Yeah.
I mean, it's just so many people that have come
on that I don't even want to disrespect any one person.
You know, I got you, But but I really loved

(25:29):
all the guests that we've had on. And you know,
we've had so many on the show, you know, it's
it's it's hard to single anybody out, to be honest
with you.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's that's why I named like forty like the writers,
you know, but well, well what about what about a
guest star?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah? And then even as a guest star, I'm thinking,
who's my uh you a great guest star. I did
say that the Darmock episode with Paul Wakefield, I really
liked his guest starring in that, you know, But is
that the best of all of them? I can't say

(26:11):
that either, because there's been so many great performances of
this so much it's almost impossible to single it down
to one guest star. I mean, you know, Spot's father,
for example, was an excellent market Eric.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh my god, Ian Mark Leonard, You're right, that that
was an acting clinic that was unbelievable. I also thought Barkley.
Now we've seen him two or three times, but originally no,
he was just a single episode guest star. So good.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah. So for me to nail it, narrow it down
to one, it's just like, nah, it's almost impossible because
they all shine in different ways, in different moments. You know.
We just saw it. So with the Robert McNeil, and
he was fantastic. Yeah right, So okay, I'm not gonna

(27:09):
I can't pick one out of more than the others,
but there have been some really fantastic ones.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Okay, here's another one. Let's see what am I looking for? Oh?
Here it is? Steve Case asks, Hey Gang, uh yeah,
the aka Joe Bugbuster. You got it. We're just starting
TG season six, and there's only one more season after that,

(27:37):
so I'm wondering where the seventh rule is thinking about
going next? Assuming you're not planning on hanging up your tricorders,
Linda Andreich says, what series will you review after TNG?
Philip G. Brand Ives says, I think my first question
would be, are you going to review Voyager? You noticing
a theme here? Amram Misne says to Sarrock and Ryan,

(27:58):
looking a bit further into our future, what's next for
the podcast beyond TG Will you review the movies? I'm
assuming you'll review the latest seasons of SNW any Jake
Cisco's appearances planned? Okay, So basically the point is a
lot of people have asked, in a nutshell, we got

(28:19):
about two seasons left, what are we gonna do after this?
And we'll answer that right after the break, everybody. We
will be right back on the seventh rule. Hey, everybody,
welcome back to the seventh rule of Sarrack. Easy money.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
All right.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So I was gonna say easy questions, but you aren't
asking easy questions. These are fun questions, guys. So of
course it's the mail bag episode and we're jumping right
back into it. The question is what are we doing
after season seven and after we're done with Next Generation?
Are we doing movies? Are we doing Voyager? Are we
hanging them up? As one of them asked, I'll start

(29:06):
with this, you guys, to be perfectly honest. Let's just
put it all out there, to be one hundred percent honest.
The truth is that Sarroc and I are not in
the process of talking about this yet. We haven't even
discussed it, have we, Like.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
We haven't really no, we haven't thought about it.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
We haven't really actually gone into it. Personally. I've thought
about since we're doing some original series and we'll be
done with the Next Generation, I thought that the natural
progression after that would be to do the movies, maybe

(29:50):
the original series movies. Definitely the Next Generation movies, because
those are continuation of the next generation. But I don't know,
what do you think, Sarak? Have you given it anything? Thought?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, I definitely want to watch something that I, you know,
haven't seen, So I was thinking maybe the first season
of Discovery, maybe the same the first two seasons. We
can do a rewatch.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Season five rewatch for me take Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I didn't, you know, I don't know what the what
the next thing is like. It's really a good question
for us to pull everybody that, you know, our supporters
and viewers, you know, what do they think is the
next thing that they would like to see covered? I mean,
eventually we're going to get to a place where Voyagers,
you know, is just standing there as the next obvious

(30:57):
thing to do Voyager.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Enterprise is movies, A lot of the original series and
the animated series. We've done all the new stuff that's
already in the can, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, so so yeah. I think then eventually we're going
to get to a place where, you know, we cover
Voyager and Enterprise reluctantly. Enterprise, I heard, it's not so bad.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I love Enterprise. I haven't seen I haven't seen Enterprise
since its original airing.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
As long as they allow you to skip the intro
because I don't have to hear the theme.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
You think that, but you will love it. You you
will love it. You give it a few episodes, you'll
be you'll be going to the bathroom and you'll be
like it's been alone.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh what am I doing? But you love it anyway?
All right? Next question, every buddy, what's another? Let me
scroll back cup here? Okay, hmm. MORI already asked, do
any of the Deep Space nine cast members have upcoming

(32:10):
roles either in or outside of Star Trek Love Jeffrey
Combs as the evil computer in Lower Decks. Actually, I
feel like I can answer that one no, because Lower
Decks is over or in Star Trek looks so our
options are strange new worlds. I think it would be

(32:30):
really tough to do a Deep Space nine character in
stranging worlds, being that it's like one hundred years in
the past. But Luri asked cast members, not characters, so
it's entirely possible any actor from Deep Space nine can
play any kind of role into strange New worlds. On
the other side of that, Starfleet Academy's coming out. That's

(32:54):
several hundred years in the future. Anything can happen there,
but we don't really know too much. We know that
Robert Priccardo's there, so it's certainly possible. Then we also
have Star Trek Con, which is an audio drama. Man
in an audio drama?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Anybody what's Star Trek Con? What's that?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Oh? Yeah, that's that might be the next thing we review. Actually,
it's an audio drama. It's gonna be a prequel to
Star Trek two. It's going to be like what developed
and created Con. It's his prequel, his origin story or whatever.
And I think it's six or eight audio episodes something

(33:37):
like that. And I can't remember his name right now,
but the guy from Lost.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right now people, So it's coming out on radio or
is coming out just on.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just on the audiodia like a podcast, Neves Deeves. I
can't remember his last name anyway, so that's gonna be
really cool. But any Deep Space nine cast member can
go and do a voice for that. They could play
anybody because we're not going to see their face, so

(34:09):
they could do whatever they want. It's a possible one.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, yeah, I'm hoping to hear jg on that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Oh man, that would be awesome. We would recognize him
so fast, so fast. Okay, up next is oh she
has a second question. She says, also, have you considered
having Daniel Davis on the podcast aka Professor James Moriarty
from the TNG episode Ship and a Bottle a clever episode,

(34:40):
and not just because I like the character's name, because
her last name is also Moriarty. Oh, so of course
he likes Moriarty. I'd love to have him. Remember he
was he played Moriarty in that episode on the Holid
Deck where he played he was like Moriarty when Data
was Sherlock Holmes. I'd love to have him. What about you?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, I mean it was a ship in the Bottle episode.
She mentioned.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
The episode was called Ship in a bottle.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Okay, yeah, I mean absolutely, I'd like to have as
many people as we can because I mean I like
hearing about people's experiences on the show and what they
went through and anxieties or hurdles that they had obstacles.
I love what listening to people's stories.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Moriarty, Moriarty, Yeah, more like Snorriarty just kidding, he's great.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Another here's one wait where we go? Here we go? Up? Next?
Linda and Areg asks how do you get your celebrity
and BTS guest to appear on the show. She also
asked on which new Star Trek show would Sarak, Ryan
and Melissa like to appear as a guest star. I
think we can. We'll ask Melissa that one. On the

(36:02):
Free for All. I feel like Siroc should abstain because,
like he's an actor, so why would he pick one
over the other. I think it's whicheveryone calls you, right, yeah,
actually me too, which everyone called They're not gonna call me,
but which everyone calls me. I'll say yes too, but

(36:22):
we'll ask Melissa too. We'll see what she says.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
In the Free for All? But the first part is
how do you get your celebrity and BTS guests to
appear on the show. Siroc Uh, Yeah, Well, I guess
we can answer that quickly. Basically, there are a few ways.
One every once in a while, if it's a friend
of Sirox, he shoots him a text or whatever and
they hop on. More often than not, we send a

(36:47):
cold call, cold email, a cold message on some social
media or something and hope they respond. Sometimes they're friends,
sometimes they're friends of friends. Eighty percent of the time,
it's just a cold message. You just throw it out
there and see what happens. A lot of times it's
our friend Anne Marie Siegel that tracks them down ahead

(37:10):
of the episode. She says, hey, a good person for
the episode next week would be so and so you
can find her on Instagram And I go, ugh, I
have the cold message somebody on Instagram? Is there anything
more painful than that? And you know, half the time
people say yes, And sometimes they say I'd love to,

(37:33):
but I'm unavailable, And a lot of times there's just
no response. And that's okay too, you know. So that's it.
We just kind of do it like like what you
would imagine. Just however, however, we can whatever it takes.
But I would say it's we've had a huge amount
of success just kind of contacting people. I don't suggest
that you do that, but people have been really nice

(37:54):
to us. I think we're really lucky.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, and I'll just add to that, you know, the
real simple answer is to ask yes and whatever answer
you know, whatever answer you get, that's what you're satisfied with.
And the other thing that I would also say is
it helps when you don't piss off people when they
do show up that way, the word is that it's

(38:20):
a good experience coming on the show, as opposed to
it torture us what not.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Only is that a very good point. That's something that's
just great to mention is that we know that people
have spoken about us and they do put in a
good word. You know, writers tell other writers, oh yeah,
the seventh roar old, they're really cool. You should go
on that show. That's really We've had some people say
I was wondering when you guys were going to ask me.
I've been around for two years already. I was like,

(38:47):
where's my eave? So so sometimes we actually feel bad
that we're not you know, we have to make sure
to ask people because you're you're not bothering them. Sometimes
sometimes they want to talk about they're proud of their episode.
Of course they are, and so we want to make
sure that we can talk about it with them because
we would love to promote their episode and talk to

(39:08):
them about it. Yeah, all right, here's another one. Okay,
Ami Ram says, what do you think is the future
of the franchise now that there's only one Trek show
in production that has an expiration date with all the
changes at Paramount, Well, we kind of covered that. It's
not just one. He's talking about Strange New Worlds because
it's they've announced that they're going to end at season

(39:29):
five with just six episodes, so forty six episodes in total.
But we have Starfleet Academy in production. I feel like
they're already they've already been greenlit for season two, so
they're already working on season two. As far as the
writer's room probably is concerned. They're star Trek con. They
also have like some animated children's YouTube series that's coming

(39:50):
out soon, but that's not going to be Cannon, But
there are a lot of things coming out. I think
the future of the franchise has less to do with
the series that are coming out, because they are coming
out with series and more to do with the merger.
And once we find out what happens with the merger
with sky Dance, then I feel like things will unclog,
either for the worse more likely for the better. I

(40:12):
feel like then we'll start getting movies and maybe new
it's just gonna be a new era, but it's gonna
be a while and you know, we're just in a
standstill until then. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, And and to further expand on that just a
little bit more. As you know, Star Trek never really
disappears or dies or just just you know, goes away.
It usually just changes hands of who's in the control
driver's seat of it, who's the captain of the ship. Right,
So we started with Roden Berry at the at the captain,

(40:45):
and then you know, then we moved to Rick Berman
at the captain, and you know, we had JJ at
the captain and we and now we have Kurtzman as
the captain. So if anything, I only think that the
franchise will have a new cat. It'll never really go
you know, the ship will always be there to just

(41:06):
always have a new cat and that's.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
All all right. So we only have a few minutes left.
Let's see if we can knock out a few more.
Steve Case asks any chance of getting Ronnie Cox on
as a guest for the upcoming Chain of Command two
partyer man, I would love to sac. You'll just have

(41:30):
to trust me, or maybe you'll disagree. I'm not going
to tell you what the situation is, but I will
say that there is a divisive character, kind of like Ducott.
Some people actually hate Ducott, some people love him, kind
of like that. Dwight Schultz would be a great guest.
Steve Case goes on for season six as well. That's Barkley.

(41:51):
I agree, we love him.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, that would be a real dream to have him on. Yeah,
of course we probably would talk more.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Eighteen Yeah, of course, Sorry, Star.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Trek, we're going in alphabetical order first eighteen.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, let's B. I don't know B team okay.
Mark Zukov asks, this is funny. What do you think
might surprise you in the upcoming sixth season of TG.
This could be any returning characters, plotlines, guest stars, character arts,
et cetera, sarak What do you think might surprise you?

(42:36):
In a season that you haven't seen yet.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
What would surprise me if they if they killed off
a character, Yeah, that would surprise me. If they brought
a character back to life.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
It happens pretty often though. It's funny because I like
to predict what would prize you specifically, and there are
a few things, you know, like when Denise Crosby came
back and things like that, or when Picard became one
of the borg you know, huh.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Actually, the biggest thing that would surprise me is if
Riker keeps his pants.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I thought you're gonna say if Jordi got laid, what
did it do? If one episode Riker doesn't get laid
and Jordi does get laid, I will.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Be complete, like blown away. I'm like, what is this?
What show am I watching?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Written by LeVar Burton, So oh, I think you just
answered that, or maybe you didn't. But he also follows
up with what do you not want to see happen
in the upcoming TG sixth season?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
That's a great question, Oh, what do I not want
to see it happen?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
I can't answer that because I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Let's see what do I not want to see happened? Oh?
I do not want to see Warf being a father
any more.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Don't worry, you won't. Okay, why start now? Right? All right?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
What's next?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Thing? If we can knock out a couple quickies? Here,
where do you go here?

Speaker 3 (44:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Okay? Oh, here's a fun one. Boon sal says, I
have a question for sar Rak when he was watching
himself acting, did he feel somewhat disconnected from his younger
self because of the long time that had passed.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
M No, I didn't feel disconnected now. I felt like
it was me. It just was me then. But I
am critical of myself, so I always say I wish
you could have done this that way, that way. But
I feel connected to it because I remember the moments,
I remember being there with Avery. It's special to me,

(45:16):
so I'm always going to be connected to it.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Mm hm oh wait, I was hitting the wrong button there.
There we get anyway. Yeah, that's a good one. Let's
see if we could do one.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
More?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Is there one more? Good? Let me see if I
can scroll through here. We're kind of going a little
overtime here, but I felt like, oh, here's one more.
In what ways do you think the interpersonal relationships among
the Enterprise crew have grown over the first five seasons.
I'll answer that first, in what ways you think the

(45:53):
interpersonal relationships among the Enterprise crew have grown in the
first five seasons. Well, first of all, Beverly and Picard's
relationship has hardly grown.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I know a lot of people are saying no, no, no, no, no,
that's not true, but not as much as you would think.
After one hundred and twenty five episodes. Certainly it has
developed into a very trusting and loving working relationship. Like
it did not go in the direction that it may

(46:27):
have gone early on, but now they like she is
one of his most trusted officers, maybe his number one,
no pun intended, they're number one most trusted officer. She
loves working for him. She's also one of the only
people that can give him an order. Only she and
Deanna are the only two that can overrule the captain

(46:48):
outside of mutiny. So I think that one has grown.
Same thing with Riker and Troy. It could have gone
in a specific direction and now it's just kind of
like weird, like what's going on with them, But it
still is growing in a way of like trust and love,
even if it doesn't go and grow in the direction
of you know, Riker not humping other chicks every week.

(47:13):
You know. So, I don't know, what do you think, SOROK,
how the interpersonal relationships grown?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Well. I think that Data and Jordi have grown closer
over the seasons. I think Warf has found a little
bit more comfortability with speaking his voice a little bit
more than he did before. I think Captain piccard Is

(47:46):
has developed over the seasons and become more likable, less
cranky and irritable, and more you know, tempered and even
slightly compassionate. So I think that, you know, in those
ways we've seen characters grow. I do agree with you

(48:12):
about the Picard and Beverly situation. Their relationship just seems,
you know what, it seems like they're it seems like
they're too a couple that's like secretly cooking up but
doesn't want to publicly like grow. Yeah, Like they don't
want to know. They don't want everybody else to know

(48:33):
that they're intimate or like each other. So when they're
around each other, you know, in public there they have
this professionalism. But it seems I think they would have
been better suited if they wrote Picard kind of sneaking
secretly hooking up for Beverly like it's a relationship that
they're trying to keep from hr. All.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Right, well, we better run everybody, So before we go,
first of all, we'd like to thank everybody who's sent
in questions, and we're going to answer some more of
those questions during the Free for All, because some people
wrote some questions specifically for the Free for All. And
before we go, we'd also like to thank our pals

(49:19):
by the name of Some of them are aforementioned doctor Anne,
Marie Siegal Eve England. Out in Wales, You've got Blackman,
Tom TJ. Jackson, Baiot Missouri, Titus Muller, doctor Mohammed Norah
neil Oh Pallatte, Joe Bauceati, Mike Goo, doctor Stephanie Baker,
Carrie Schwent, Faith Howell, Edward Foltz, the map Boardman, Chris McGee,

(49:40):
Jake Barrett, Henry Unger, Allison Leech Hide, Julie Manas, fe
Jed Thompson, doctor Susan V. Gruner, Glenn Iverson, Dave Gregory,
Chris Sternet, Greg kay Wickstrom, Cassandra g Chris Garris, Steve Case,
Oliver Manali and of course Jason m Oaken. All right,

(50:05):
everybody stick around, we will be right back. Let's try
to remember if we had forgotten somebody, but we didn't.
We will be right back on the Seventh Rule. Hi, everybody,
welcome back to the Seventh Rule with Sarak lofton. This
is the free for all everybody with Melissa p Longo.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Hi there, I don't have to pee. I just went
to the bad You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Also, Cassandra g is here with an awesome new Seventh
Rule shirt that she's taken with her in Vegas.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Carrie Schwent is aka Crafty Bear.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Chris Garrets just got from his car to his home.
Pretty amazing. Chuck a has an awesome but card shirt
that he was shown off earlier. Eve England is out
in Wales with an isolinear chip on her hoodie, and
Chris McGee is like, don't forget about Ukraine. Everybody seriously?
All right? Uh? Oh no, okay, no IMDb score there, right?

(51:17):
J Cisco should guess the IMDb score of the Seventh
Rule one of these days. That would be fun. Yeah,
I mean yeah, it's on IMDb. It must have a score, right,
I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
It anyway, it's pretty high.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, because it has like just my mom and my
brother that voted so far. So I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
I voted too, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
All Right, So what we're gonna do is we're gonna
ask some questions that were sent in by the audience.
And the first question was already teased earlier in the
Free for All. We hit record and teased the first
question without anybody even realizing it. That first question is
from Linda and a rag. She says, what is Melissa P.

(52:06):
Longo's real middle name?

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Really?

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yep, that's what she asked. Oh, let's find out if
the Free for all ers know the answer to this question. Yeah,
I know it.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Uh, but.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
It's not a P, not a P. That's the.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
My middle name does not begin with a P. So
Melissa P. Longo is inaccurate.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Oh okay, hm hmm. Well, if you do the deduction,
there is a Longo Toyota out here. Yes, toyotas make lexus?

Speaker 7 (52:54):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Is lexus your middle life?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
All right?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Final hint. It starts with an F.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Right, it does start with an Francesca?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
What here?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (53:19):
IMDb, Oh it's not on I m d B. I
looked it up. I was trying to figure it out.

Speaker 9 (53:29):
You know that from somewhere before.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I've never seen Francesca with a P. P.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
H Okay, that's nice and three rs. It's really it's interesting.
I think it's Samoan anyway, that's really cool, Melissa Francesca Longo.
That's the first question. Okay, amram remember Amy ram Me's
nay cool guy. Yeah, he asked uh to Ryan Sarak

(53:59):
and the Free for All Team?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
So where did the pe come from? Is that you
that just introduced the P? Did you make up the
Ryan Kidney's Ryan? You just put it there?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I just panic and just say.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
So this old time.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
It sounds right, it sounds good. Okay. If somebody said,
what's her real meddle name, I'd say Francesca. She's told
me like forty times because she's always like, it's not P,
it's Francesca. And I still got a couple of times.
But P sounds good, like Q lofton everybody knows. Okay, okay,

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Uh to Ryan Sarak and the Free for All Team.
What episode of TNG season six are you most excited
about reviewing? And why? Well, let's start with Sorac on
this so there's no spoilers, and then go to Eve
since they haven't seen any star Trek, I can.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I don't know what's there to look forward to in this?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Uh so, I don't know if any anything at all,
anything that you've heard of, Like Sarak knew about Darmock,
he knew it existed.

Speaker 9 (55:17):
Is this is this the season where we get the
ghost counsel?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I don't believe that. Wait, okay, what about you, Melissa.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
I'm cheating. I don't remember what's in season six? Cheating should.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, it's not cheating. We just have to get the list.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Any day is coming.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Oh, tapestry. We hear a lot about tapestry with action figure.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Oh yeah, tapestry action figure. That's right.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Did somebody say tapast okay?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
H doesn't Susan Gruener have a tapestry?

Speaker 8 (56:21):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (56:22):
The car?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
We pass it back and forth. Tapestry. What about you, Cassandra?

Speaker 6 (56:30):
I like relics, that's what.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Say it?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Okay? I like relics. Mm hmmm. Oh wait, maybe the
question is and why? Okay, we'll say why with.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
That there there is a original cast member that appears
on that episode. There's a little backstory from one of
the previous of the original series in this episode as well.
So that's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Carrie Schwentt It's so much fun. Yeah, a rascal.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
I love that.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
Completely out of context. It will make you want to
jump up it down on your bed.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Oh what about you, Chris Garris.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Man, I'm torn between two right now.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
You're thinking to chain of Command.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Maybe No, I'm not.

Speaker 11 (57:35):
It's Relics for the reason that we can't say and.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Ship.

Speaker 11 (57:48):
Yeah, so I'm just gonna leave it at that. But
those are my Those are I mean, I'm definitely like those.
I mean, the rest of them are great, But yeah,
I'm really looking forward to Relics because it's actually we're
about to be talking about it.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
M hmm, not mistaken, not frame of mind.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
What about you, Chuck A.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Uh, let's go with a.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
Fistful of data's datas Uh. The reason will become apparent
when you see it.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
All right, A bold choice, uh, Chris McGee, I.

Speaker 12 (58:26):
Would have to choose if I wasn't choosing other people's choices.
Would be starship mind, simply because I want to see
Sir Rock's reaction to it. And it's very reminiscent of
one of my favorite movies of all time.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Mm hmm, I'm gonna say I want to I agree
with you, Starship Mine and I think chain of command
maybe now that I'm looking at these real quick. But
there are a lot of very iconic tgh An tapestry.
Oh man alive. There's a lot of lotas here. All right, yeah, so,

(59:02):
oh do you guys want to do Jake Cisco guesses
the IMDb score. Yeah, Jake Cisco guesses the seventh rule
IMDb score.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Don't look in the chat the seventh rule.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
For god already.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Ah, they don't do tens, you know, because the averages.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
Seven point seven.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
George, we have to fire a factor in Ryan p Husk.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Hey, that's Ryan Fusk to you. You see in American English,
a pH makes an f sound.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Uh. I'll give us a eight point five. Man. I
think it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
All right, all right, all bets are in because everybody's
seen the chat already. The answer is very close eight
point three. So everybody that's listening or watching, please go
make Sirok right by bumping that up, or you know what,
just vote however you want to vote me whatever, bring

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us down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Or up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Just go vote with whatever you No, no, just.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Just give us a tenth. Feel generous. It's free.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
The tens are free.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
All right, next question this is let's see Oh that's cute.
This is somebody that I miss dearly and I'm hoping
to see in Vegas. It is Fox No mad Who

(01:00:53):
you know is a Neil oh Pellette? He asks. At
the time, at first aired, there was a lot of
criticism against Deep Space nine that it was dark and
not very Star Trek Star Trek, yes, that un quotes.
Many of those comparisons were specifically to TNG. Having now

(01:01:15):
watched the first five seasons of both what do you
think makes a show Star Trek and how does Deep
Space nine fit in? What do you think Strock?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
What makes a show Star Trek?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I'll go first the title, okay, go ahead's Rock?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Well, I would say one, the setting is space. Two,
we have a crew of people that are working together
to problems solve. And three, to me, what really makes
in Star Trek is critical thinking and making the audience

(01:02:03):
think critically about what the issue is that's being addressed
in the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
All right, what do you think, Melissa f long Ago?

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Well, I think it's exploring new life and new civilizations,
and that doesn't necessarily mean going to that new life
and civilizations. Sometimes that comes to you, and sometimes that exploration,

(01:02:40):
exploration is the operative word, without judgment, without having all
the answers already. Sometimes that exploration goes within because there
are many facets of ourselves that we're still we explore
every single day, and if that going out to the

(01:03:01):
universe and what the universe holds, that also translate to
the exploration of why we hear, what we contribute to
the people that we meet on a daily basis beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
When I read that question, I was like, Oh, we're
going to get some fun answers here. What do you think,
Cassandra G I don't feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Star Trek is about having good morals really and having
guidelines and rules to follow, but also knowing that you
may be in certain situations like the prime directive, who've
been broken quite a few times, but other times it
hasn't been broken, And so it's just knowing that you
know you're going out in your meeting different beings or

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different species, but you cannot put what your culture has
or your civilization onto others. You have to respect and
understand that. And I just feel like that's one of
the many core messages of Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Certain awesome. I'm messing around with more questions here, Uh
what do you think? Uh, Carrie Schwent.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Honestly, the first word that that popped in my head
was an an adventure. Could be a serious adventure, could
be a fun adventure, a silly adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
They're simple.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Just sometimes the diplomatic negotiations can often be an adventure
because like four scups and life is like a box
of chocolates.

Speaker 10 (01:04:34):
Never know what you're gonna get. Second thing with talking
talking to somebody else over something as simple as a
negotiation table like the card does all the time. But
just an adventure that comes in all kinds of forms.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Mm hmm. Thirty what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Erstand, did anybody here like section thirty one? I mean,
we all loved it, and it is Star Trek, but
did anybody love it like for real.

Speaker 9 (01:05:12):
All the actual concept?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:05:15):
I mean yeah, the film, Yeah, I mean it was
you know, it was it light on the track, yes,
but it's still you know, brought some of it in
and it you know, it gave us something that we needed. Honestly,
even though people may have not cared for it per se.

(01:05:39):
We're getting close to Trek drought possibly, so the more
we can get, the better. I mean, we hey say it,
We got to take what we can get right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
You're gonna take it, and you're gonna like it, right
That's what Chris Carras says. What about you, Cassandrag you
said you raised your hand timidly.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
I like Section thirty one for what it was, and
we really haven't had a quote unquote canon Section thirty
one before, so we're learning more about the organization, how
they go about recruiting. And that's why I thought that
this was part of the Star Trek universe. But it
wasn't the Star Trek we're used to seeing. But I

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do feel like it does have a place within Star Trek.
We've heard about Section thirty one generations now right through
so many other Star Trek iterations, and so yeah, and
that's why I liked it. I do feel like, you know,
things could have been added or omitted, of course, like
with anything else, but this isn't a blockbuster movie. It
is Star Trek, and so you know, we should at

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least for me, I appreciated.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
It all right, sorry to sidetrack. As Chuck A. What
makes something what makes a series Star Trek to you?
You've been watching since the original series, you know every
episode by heart, that makes something Star Trek.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
A couple of different things that as was mentioned, the
adventure and the friendships and camaraderie by the cast. You know,
you got like the difference between like what Kirk and
then what Picard with the prime directive. The cards seemed

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to break the prime directive quite often, but it was
for humanitarian reasons for the most part. So it was
what makes good Star Trek is a good story if
you break it down like a fantastic A plot, a
decent B plot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
You know where it keeps you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:50):
Enthralled in the the storyline and and what makes uh
Star Trek Star Trek is you have have so many
stories out there that have been explored, and so many
stories that can be explored. And I'm looking forward to
you know, like Star Trek Academy and see where that

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goes and Strange New World's New season. But you know,
there's so many aspects of what makes Star Trek Star Trek,
and it's it's it's mainly the adventure and the story
that keeps you keeps Star Trek going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Yeah, great stuff, Thank you very much. Chuck A aka
TNNG fanatic Eve England, you have such a poker face.
I just sent you something that I was trying to
see you react to, and you're like, I give it
an emoji? What do you think what makes something Star Trek?

Speaker 9 (01:08:51):
I mean everyone's sort of said, I think what I
probably would have said. I mean, it's it's when I think.
I mean, I haven't seen, you know, everything all the
way through, but I mean it seems to be I
think the way it sees itself is presenting this future
for humanity that is more harmonious. That is, you know,

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all of the stuff that everyone experiences on a day
to day basis, all of that kind of goes way
into something much more positive from a future perspective. But
I think going back to O Neil's question around the
criticism that Deep Space nine might have had, I mean,
for me, that's I think I like the fact that
Deep Space nine doesn't quite fit in the same way

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as the other shows has. So to me, Deep Space
nine is does have that gritty edge. It does sort
of talk about the darker side of staffleet in the Federation,
all of that sort of stuff which can appeal to
me as someone who liked sci fi and not necessarily
as a big Star Trek fan. So I think, but

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I think there's a place for all of that, and
in my view, I think seeing that darker side gives
you much more context to the rest of the positivity
that you see in the other because because you know
that that wouldn't be possible without some of these darker points,
and it would be naive to say that you don't
still have darkness in the universe and the galaxy which

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we see on a weekly basis actually when they go
to these different places and there's lots of things that
go horribly wrong. So I like the sort of more
of the realism that Deep Space nine brings, and brings
the sort of the wider Star Trek universe and gives
it more depth by being there and existing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
M Thanks very much, Eve England out in Wales. What
about you, Chris McGee, Well.

Speaker 12 (01:10:50):
Just to argument what others have said, I think it's
pretty much, you know the fact that it's a morality
play portraying the best of what humanity should be, at
least for the moment most part, and which ties in
with the fact that, as as others mentioned, the social
commentary couched in sci fi trappings. That to me is
pretty much the essence of Star Trek, whether or not

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it's set in space or on a planet or wherever.
That's that's what Star Trek is to me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Huh, Chris Garris, you're a pretty big Star Trek fan.
You know a lot of things about Star Trek. It
turns out, so you tell us what makes a series
Star Trek? Have you ever been one of those guys
is like, this series isn't that's not Star Trek? What
what makes it Star Trek?

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Well, for me, what does you know? What really has
to happen?

Speaker 11 (01:11:47):
They need to stay you know, within not the exact
confines of Gene obviously, but keep the you know, the
mindset of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
How we need to you know, play well with everybody
that we.

Speaker 11 (01:12:03):
Can you know, let's you know, let's we need to
have the you know, infinite if infinite diversity and infinite combinations.
You know, we need to you know, we need to
hopefully you know, it can strive to you know, come
up come to some of the ideals. Now I know
that it's not possible. It will never happen exactly that way,

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you know, but it gives us something to strive for,
you know, because if you think about how the series
have changed from you know, TOS to today, you know,
they tried a lot in the TOS times that they
you know, that they got to say, got away with
what they could. And then you know, you think about

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how we had episodes in TG that you know, they
tried something new or insta that's a societal thing, but
they had to get through the sensors. And then finally
you get to d S nine and they're you know,
in Ira is really pushed in the envelope things, but
it needed to be pushed, like recently the Delta Fiers

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diner thing on Rejoined and some other stuff, you know,
and and Terry had a lot of good commentary about that,
but again they had to push that, they had to
get it through, but they used it to DECI fi
piece and then obviously you get the Discovery, which really
opened up the floodgates for being more inclusive on the

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set and the series and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
So I think we need to look at it as
a way.

Speaker 11 (01:13:33):
Of, you know, how can we hopefully imitate what they're
doing on screen and predicting for the future. I think
Eve said, you know, there's always gonna be evil in
this world no matter what, even the Star Trek there is,
so we just have to strive to do what we
can to you know, be kind to other people. And

(01:13:56):
as long as the series focused on that as much
as they can. Yeah, you don't wrong. I love all
the action and stuff like that, which is why even
in section thirty one it was like mission impossible. We'd
Star Trek for me, you know, you know, so anyway,
that's you know, I think what makes can make it,
you know, fall within his vision of the future. And

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last thing was and just think about all the technology
that has come from Star Trek, you know, the things
that we all thought would never happen. But I mean
this is basically a track quarder within reason. I mean,
it's it or a pad. I mean, all the pictures
and this actually looks better than the past day on
the show, you know, it's more functional.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
For one, I don't remember it.

Speaker 11 (01:14:42):
Was rock or somebody made a comment about you know,
I don't think it was a band about that thing
was huge. It may have been Dave Blast when I
was talking to him. But anyway, it's you know, the
things that have led people onto the scientists thinking like
whether like Katie you know, so anyway, that does those
long winter But that's my take on what can make it,

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what makes Star Trek you know, relevant to today, and
we've got to keep the younger generation involved as much
as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Mm hmmm. So uncanceled Star Trek Prodigy everybody you heard
Chris Garris, make it happen. That's the rule.

Speaker 11 (01:15:17):
They need that they they really should because it's a
good Prodigy is someone I talked to just recently, is
a good gateway for people to get in because I
didn't We were talking about lower Decks and if you
don't know a lot of the backstory, lower decks is
your loss.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
But Prodigy has.

Speaker 11 (01:15:37):
New has the younger group being led by one hell
of an hologram, Captain Janeway.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
You can't get any better than that. You can't get
any better than that.

Speaker 11 (01:15:46):
So yeah, so yes, they really should bring it back
or at least put it on so we can watch
what's been what's been done.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
So you were correct, how.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
That's just a lucky guess? Well, uh, here's another one.
You guys, this is going to be man, you guys,
this is the big one here it comes. Steve Case
aka Joe Bugbuster asked the Free for All gang, what
is the thing you've always wanted to say during a
free for all segment? But it never seemed like the

(01:16:22):
right time? WHOA what perfect timing? We're all going to
get to say the thing that we never could have
said during a free for all because it wasn't the
right time during Things Left Unseaid? Everybody. We're all out
of time here, so I'm not going to get to
say during the free for all? What timing? Oh man?

(01:16:46):
Alive everybody?

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
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(01:17:12):
for us. Thank you very much to Chris McGee, Eve England,
Chuck A, Chris Garris, Carrie Schwent, Cassandra g Melissa Longo,
for myself, Sarrock Lofton, Melissa and mister Aaron Eisenberg, thank
you so much for being a part of this fun
male bag episode. It felt fun. It felt like a
kind of a break from the norm. We could just

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kind of hang out chat, you know, Sarak and I
kind of a couple questions. We looked at each other
like I better not answer that. You know, you know.
But it was a good time and we appreciate everybody
that sent in questions. Nobody sent questions is the discord
even on nobody sent one those zero questions in that discord. Anyway,

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did you send out yeah on the discord?

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Discord? Oh I missed it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, it's a lot. Okay, good. I started second, I
was like, maybe I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
I miss a lot on discord.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Sorry, anyway, discord is weird. Thanks very much everybody. We
will see you next time, and until then, always remember
the seventh rule.