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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Afternoon Detention. Oh hi there, I'm Jeremy
and I'm from the Afternoon Detention and I'm joined by
my great friend again, Rusty. Hello, look, Rusty, mate, I
just want to ask it's I mean, are you an
ostrich or do you pay attention to a bit of
the zeitgeist at the moment?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I mean, look, I am usually an ostriche but I do.
I pop my head up every now and then. So
when do you pop your head up?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm sure you've turned on your phone and all you
get is these Epstein files. Yeah, actually a fair bit,
a fair bit, just like, look, it's gone crazy at
the moment, right, we just went through a timeline before,
and if this is to be honest, I've got enough
knowledge to inform you and ask you some questions on
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what you think. I don't think anyone's got enough knowledge
to know what the fuck's coming on. Yeah, oh, you're right,
you're right. So, just as a quick update, everyone Trump
as been talking about releasing these Epstein files. It was
his campaign. It was a part of his campaign saying
that he will release them. Now he's in power. He
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hasn't released them. What do you know about these Epstein files.
What's your thoughts and why he hasn't released him and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, I mean it is it is interesting that he's
just completely turned around. Obviously, as you just said, it
was the selling point of his campaign pretty much. That's
why he got put in. That's why a lot of
people would have voted for him. Even a lot of
people in the middle probably got you know, they they
started leaning over a bit because everyone wants to see
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the Epstein files because obviously it's a it's atrocious. But
then but then he's completely backtracked. He's not going to
release them. He's he avoids the question.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know. Well, it's like I heard a really good
point on what he should have done. Right, So first
of all, I just want to say, the fucking weird
thing is the biggest people pushing for these is the Democrats.
The Democrats had power for four years or whatever it is.
Why didn't you just release it yourselves? Like he's had
news could have the News didn't, but whatever, that's fine.
(02:16):
Democrats are pushing pretty hard. Now if I was Trump,
what I would have done right to say, you go out,
you say you're going to release the Epstein files to
get voted in. It's probably the best way to get
to get a country that doesn't have mandatory voting, because
you're just like, oh, I know you all want to
find out who the fuck's the pedophiles, So I'm going
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to tell you the pedophiles. And then what you've got
to do, I reckon, or what I would do is
for four years, just constantly go, we don't have a
complete it is not ready to release. We need to
make sure we get every note right, and then once
it's ready, we will release it. Never release it for
a term. Let it fizzle out a bit, let it
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fizzle out. Or if you get voted in again, that's
when you go, all right, maybe it's time to release.
But if you get voted out, see, this is the
thing you can say on your way out, you go, look,
we we believe the Epstein files are almost complete. Up
to the Democrats to fucking release it, because I think
that's the thing. I think the thing is this, these
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files are going to be full of names that it's
just going to fucking ruin all of Hollywood, American politics.
I'm sure it's going to ruin more of the world.
It's just like there's going to be so many fucking
names on here that no one's safe. Yeah, Like it's
not going to be like Democrats are going to be like,
oh our hands are clean, They're not going to be clean. Yeah,
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it's just we just know that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, So
I think I don't think either party wants to release
them because it's either party's going to fucking have to
answer for what's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's still it is still just
weird how much of a three sixty Trump did. And
so you've got to sort of two main reasons, I
feel like. And one but like obvious reason would be
he was he was lying about releasing them, yeah, and
it was just it was just a selling point for
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the campaign. And then the second reason would be he
did want to release him but now now that he's
in for some reason, he can't release them, and so
in order to maintain a image of being in power,
he's just got to say, oh, no, we're not going
to do that, or we can't do that, or why
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are you still talking about and.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, well that's what he come out and said. He
come out and said, why are we still talking about
the files? Exactly? This was your election promise. It's like,
imagine that. Imagine you got told by your mate that hey,
if you do this day's work of me, I'm going
to give you five hundred dollars. You do the day's work,
twelve hours work, you push through, and you go to
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ask him a week, where's the money you haven't paid me?
And he goes, why the fuck you're still talking about that.
You'd be like, I can't. Where's my saturday? Where's my
fucking saturday?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Where is it?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You told me I was gonna have a Saturday? And money?
Where is it? You know what I mean? It's it's
you can't make an election promise and just go, why
are we talking about this? Yeah? Unless unless his hands
are tired, Well that's what it's. It sounds like there
are blood on his hands metaphorically.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And it's either it's either because he was but if
he if he was involved, you wouldn't use that as
a selling point. It doesn't really make sense. I mean
you could, but it's just.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That's what I mean. Like, the hardest thing with American
politics is like you have to be so full on
with your policies and stuff because you're only ever talking
to the extremists it's a problem. The biggest the biggest
voting party in the last election was people who didn't vote,
as in people who didn't vote the last time. In
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this in this election results, the biggest party to win
was people that didn't voted. No one voted in America
so much. What was the vote? Can you tell us
to talk about the voting split, Mitch, Obviously it's not voting,
like it's not mandatory. But the problem with non mandatory
voting is that like only hardcore people vote.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So you're saying that, So there's people who voted left,
people voted right, people who didn't vote made up the.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Biggest the majority, the majority of people didn't vote, Okay,
I see which they yeah. So like it's like it's
why Australia's system works really well, because if you don't
have a political agenda with who where you vote, it's like, well,
now you have to make your mind up on who
you think is better. Also, so when people say their
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policies in Australia, they have to This is I think
this is a big reason why Liberal lost the last
one because leading into election it was Labor's going to
do this and fuck you, Labour's going to do this
and fuck you, Labor's going to do this and fuck
you and and then liberal I mean labor in and
when no, we're just going to do this. And our
generation is makes up the major voting pool. Now we
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don't want to hear about smear smearing. We can hear
trash talk on tiktokah. Yeah, so we're just like, well,
what the fuck are you going to do about us
not being able to pay our rent? Nothing was you
know what I mean? Like, yeah, and with our system
as well.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I guess if you really don't care, you can vote
for like fifty small minor parties.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, you can really split it out and try diverse
diversify the power if you want to, if you really
want to. But you know, but that's that's also a
silly vote in the fact that you've got to know
what that those independents side to. Otherwise you're just throwing
your vote. You might have just fucking donkey vote. Then
do they all they all have preferences?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, so they all preference to liberal or labor, Yes,
ultimately yes, Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well is that Mitch?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So the average turnout of the US population was sixty
four percent. Didn't turn up.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, sixty four percent didn't even vote. So the hardest
thing there is obviously this this epsteam files. It's going
to be a big fucking thing. So the opposite way around.
So I was about forty six percent didn't vote. Oh yeah,
that's right, Yeah, forty six that's that makes a lot
more sense. Forty six But that's still the majority of voters. Yeah, majority,
the majority. The majority of result is they didn't vote
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forty six percent. So, like if you're talking to us obviously,
like if you're talking about like like today that come
out that the beer excise, Oh and tap beer has
been frozen, So beer will stay the same price, or
it might get cheaper. Actually it will get cheaper. Beer
will get cheaper at the pub. That'll be right, So
for two years we'll get cheaper at the pub. But like,
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that's not going to be talked about much, even if
that was an election promise, it's not going to be
talking about much because it's not that big of a deal. Yeah,
where to be to beat the voting system in America
when you've only got people that are like, I vote
because I need the NRA to stay in, not like
people to like I don't mind gun you know what
I mean, Like the people that are voting are like
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NRA is important. We need them to look after my guns. Yea,
you know they're the people you got to vote to
that sort of extremist idea. So Epstein files is when
you think about it, it's not a bad strategy to come
out with. It's going to make a lot of people
change their votes. Yeah, So Mitchell, can you just check
one more thing lasting on this? Can you look up
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that Epstein is involved with the Israeli intelligence Massade. I'm
not going to figure this out, just say Jeffrey Epstein's
ties to Israeli intelligence group MASSAD come up. So that's
one of the beliefs. One of the beliefs at the moment,
or one of the theories that I've heard is that
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the reason that he was killed is because he was
trying to gain a blackmail list for Massad, the Israeli
basically like the FBI for them, Right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So he's making it so that the Israelis, Israeli's yeah,
can use it, Yes, against America, Yes, that would be it,
or against like a bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Probably, Well you'll probably find that the list is probably
bigger yeah, it'd be pretty like way bigger than what
we want it to be. But it would have ideally
to start with to be like, well, let's get American
elites and put them on it like and blackmail them like.
So the part of this theory is, I mean, I
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don't know how. This is what sort of makes me
not think about this theory one hundred. But if it
works out, it works like it's it's got you know,
it's got plausibility to it, right, Yeah. But the bit
that makes me feel a bit like, I don't know
if this is really it. The theory is that this
is linking to the Israeli conflict at the moment, and
they are saying that that because this blackmail, this is
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why America is so blindly following helping Israel in the conflict.
Yeah yeah, okay, that's why they're saying they're going because
of these ebsteam files. I mean, if that's the If
that's the theory, this is basically saying, which I mean,
I look, my idea is that it just fucking release it.
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Let's get an overdone with. But if that's how big
these files are, that America is ready to go to
war for Israel, or ready to join the conflict like
they have. They've launched missiles and they are on the coast.
If they've launching missels that Iran. If that's how big
these files are to make America fucking do that, then
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maybe you kind of get why neither party has released them.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh for sure, I mean, yeah, obviously, if that's how
important the files are to America, obviously they are not
going to release them because that just you know, it
makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Obviously, But you know what I mean, Like, I think
it adds if that's all true, It adds a bit
more gravity to the situation of like we just thought, like, oh,
you were just going to see fucking a list of
celebrities at Fox Kids. Yeah, and now it's sounding like
we're going to see a list that pretty much incriminates
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everyone important in this country to the point that like
it's going to fuck the country in its reputation. Mmm mmmm,
it's going to make everyone believe that America is full
of pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I wouldn't be surprised, that's but I guess there's a
lot of people who just don't think like that. Yeah, well,
that's that's it, and that's and that's who they're trying to,
you know, trying to keep that way.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And I guess I'm probably the minor minority. Maybe I
don't know that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if like ninety of
you know, government is just corrupt.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And it's pretty pretty messed up. I mean, it's sort
of in America. It is pretty crapped. There's a lot
of crypt like like you do like bring it back
to like the NRA, like you do anything against them
if you will know about it, Like, it's not they
have a big lobby in the government. There's a lot
of a lot of third party interaction in the American government.
(13:14):
Is NRA like guns? Yeah, national like gun protection? Give
me a second, Yeah, it's the it's it is the gun,
the gun National Rational Rifle Association. That's it. There you
get yeah, yes, yes, I went blank on the r there.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
By the way, for the Epstein Masad stuff, there is
no official link ever, and it has been denied by
multiple officials past and present in the Massad, but it is.
Everyone says it's basically a generic honeypot trap. Yeah that's
the thing. See, that's what I said when I started
was a theory.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But then also, this is going to be that deep
of a story that I think everyone's going to just
disapprove every theory we come out with. It's not it's
not going to be like a like I guess the
jellybean competition, where like that theory is wrong, that theory
is wrong, and someone goes, oh yeah, there's one nine
hundred and forty six jelly beans in the game. Oh no,
actually you're correct. Good job, good job, you're correct. We're
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going to share the secret now. Yeah, it's not that
they're going to disprove every single then it's the.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's going to be like MK Ultra or mag mag
v sock where they're never gonna They're never going to
we did that. It's going to be oh no, it
was done, but we're never going to say it. They're
never going to just close it happened. No, it's not
going to Why would they.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
If the info was out there then it would have happened.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, So there's it's that or every theory's got hold
of them.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So look finishing notes, because I think I've already lost
my train of thought and fully what I've said and
I don't want to repeat myself, and I also do
want to say that a lot of my things, I mean,
this whole opinion, this whole topic is hard to say
what's researched and more it's not because they're not out
and so whatever I've said, and if it's been disproven,
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obviously the person's way more educated than I am. I
just felt like it's something that was a great conversation
point to chat about. Get a few theories out there.
But obviously we aren't the bell and end all on
this information, so we're just here to share. But what
do you what's your final theory on this? What's your
final idea of what's going to happen or what what
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will happen? So are we getting back to Trump? Then? Yeah,
the whole episde Trump. What do you think will happen?
Oh mmm, I have a theory. What do you think, Mitch?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
There's nothing is going to happen to anyone unless the
files get released as a backdoor sort of like drilling
assigned sort of way. Yeah, that's where they will go
for someone for treason or espionage.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I my theory, I got I got two and they
sort of coexist. YEP. One's like one's what so one
of the mean is that it's just never going to
come out. Yeah, all right, it's never going to come out.
And I think the second one, and why it's not
coming out is because it doesn't fucking exist.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
No, it's been told that it does actually exist.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, but how do you It's it's like it's Shindlers box,
isn't it? Yeah? I mean no, one's no, what is it?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
No, that's not shin Lizzards s scroating his box, Yeah,
scrating's box.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He's a kind alive or dead. Yeah, you don't like
we can talk about it all we want at the
moment to us, this file doesn't exist. Yeah. So, and
my theory is correct until it's proven wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Schroading is a list. Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably.
My take is that it's never coming It's probably never
going to come out because it does so much damage.
Even when it comes out, people are still going to say, well,
why didn't it come out sooner?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And it doesn't matter when it comes out, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just not going to It's not going to come out
nicely unless unless there's some sort of new new party
or new member. And that's his selling point again, Although
it's it's got you know, you're not going to trust
it as much the second time it's already been done,
and then he full send, he's not on it, his
party is pretty good, and then it's he rebuilds the system.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Just just extra thoughts of My second theory is that, like, like,
how you said no one's going to trust it, all right,
Well my proof on saying that it's not real is like, well,
how are we going to trust anything that comes out
to be true? Yeah, that's a good point actually, because
this is to do with the higher ups. This is
to do with the elite class. Why would it not
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be forged?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, okay, So in that case, then the next guy
who does it, he could have just baked the names.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh but if it's in the hardest thing is the
guy that it's named after his fucking dead, so he
can't even ask him. The reason why the list doesn't exist,
or why the list does exist, is because the list
itself is not created by Epstein himself. It is created
by the FBI from the videos and media that they
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have gotten, the logs and all that the logs, the
media like, the like, all the information that they've got
has created a list of people that were known to
be there. But the problem is to verify that list,
they would have to release child pornography, damn, which they
cannot do.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Well, that's obviously illegal and it's just immoral, and that's.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Once you do that, then like, sure it's proven, but
you know that's That's what I'm saying. The only way
that the list ever comes out is if it's a
back door and it's like released by someone who has
hacked into or a whistleblower or something. That's what I'm saying,
a whistleblower or a hacker or something.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I think a hacker is the only way that we
know that this is proof that like that it's true
unless the only thing is the actual list. It's like
the file itself is actually concocted from lies. The only
way to prove that the actual file releasing is true
and what the what's actually there, it's like being released
is from a back door.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, because you never know what's going to come out,
Because the only way you're going to know is true
is if it's going to terrified. You can't get a
verified from the guy that named it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
If it's going to risk taking out your job, and
you're like, what your political party, What the fuck would
you let it out? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
They just have to rely on people trusting, like taking
the government's word for it if he thought about it.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Would you trust someone who walked out the door with it?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Really?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
If if say I was working, say I was working
for Trump, and I walked out of the door and said,
I have the Epstein list in my fucking hand, would
you trust me. I just walked out of the building
from Trump's office.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I mean, yeah, Well, you got to take everything with
a grain of salt exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
So I can't verify that this list is true because
everything is child pornography and fucked up shit that I
cannot release. But I have the list and it doesn't
have Trump on it. Is the list true? Well that's
that's going.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
To be like the first fucking indicator that it isn't
true exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So it was like best mates with Epstein. But at
the same time, as how do you know Trump? Trump
knows he's on the list, so fuck it, I'm putting
my name on there, But how do you know he's
not going to throw everyone else under the bus on
the other team.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, So that's why they need to have actual proof
to make it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Very but you can't verify it because it is child pornography.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It's going to be such a fucking back to the front.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
If it's official, they can't verify it, and it's just
got to be trusting the government. But if it's back door,
it's obviously they could do that. They risk themselves unless
they can do it, I don't know, like on the
dark web or some sort of something like that.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But then yeah, but still then you're on that same thing.
You're releasing child pornography. Yes, so you would eventually probably
your morals would be fucked if you did that anyway,
and damn tell Ryan to never release his hard drive them.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh look, I think we can go on for hours
with this, and I think this hole is probably best
to be nipped in the bud before we dig too far. Yes,
all right, and obviously everything we said today is theorized.
Do your own research, do your own research on this,
make your own opinions, go ask chat JPT. I personally
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do like to take a back seat with this whole thing.
It's just the problem is you can't escape it at
the moment. So, yeah, everything we've said is theorized. Take
aver a grain of salt, do your own research and
don't fuck a child. So I mean, look, if seen
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this guy before, you've seen him, great specimen of a human,
probably the best young young talent because he is younger
than Daniel true, best young young talent out of Western Sydney.
But look, you all know him as M sixteen M
sixteen with an R. But ladies and gentlemen, big news.
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I believe Rusty has come out with a new name
I have.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So if you look at some of my new releases,
and there's only one new release but more to come,
you might notice the name lost glow l O S
T g l o W one word and that is
the new monika of M sixteen R or of mes
(22:50):
M sixteen I was my first monica.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But yeah, so what what's the first forts inspiration behind
this name? Like what where you get? What's this I'm
going to represent too? Like what is this like a
overall thing or is this just a genre thing? Is
this like a what is it? Okay?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So it's definitely most noticeably it's a change in genre.
So obviously AM sixteen R. That is electronic music. There's
a little bit of hip hop, slash rap sort of things.
A bit of synth wave things like it's all it's
all synthesize, it's all production music really now Lost Glow,
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on the other hand, switch in genre, switch in what
I'm doing because there's going to be a lot of
guitar and obviously still a lot of production because I
am I'm first and foremost producer yep, but different style
of production genre wise metal, you know, punk, alternative, rock,
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show gays, emo, whatever you want to call it. That's
the new direction that I'm heading in with this name.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Okay, so the name Lost Glow. Where did you concoct
that from? Is there a story behind it? Or you
just had a vegan cigarette and like, oh man, that
would sound sick.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Look, I mean, I'd love to say there's like a
cool story. Cool meaning not really. It's more of an
aesthetic thing for sure. So when you see M sixteen,
like aesthetically it's pretty boring, you know what I'm saying.
That was my biggest qualm with that name is it's boring.
It's mechanical, it doesn't sound like anything, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's very typewriter ish when you when you read it
out like you've ever got it. Especially the R bit
as well, there's a dash. Yeah, it looks very fucking
times new Roman. Yeah, it's bloody. It's like a sign.
You can't capitalize it in the right way like the letters.
It just it's still like, yeah, it's still you have
to drop the R to make it somewhat pronounceable.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, like it's it's our bloody M sixteen R. And
if you say to someone and they try and type
it in, they're not going to get the dash because
you didn't say it, or they're not you know, it's
a bloody It's not marketable, Yeah, exactly, that's a big thing.
It's not marketable, but lost glow. It's you know, it
rolls off the tongue better than M sixteen R. It's
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actual words, and aesthetically it's lends itself more to you know,
something a bit ethereal, something a bit ambient something, you know,
it's more emotional. It's could be Gothic, and that's a
big influence for my There is.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That bit of Gothic, and then I think when I
hear it, you do hear that's some sort of Gothic,
But then you do hear that's some sort of modern Yeah,
as in like the glow bit makes it sound like
it's not like old heavy.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Now, well, the fact that it's lost and glow in
one word, like, that's not something that they did. You know,
forty years ago they had full I had full names
and in the girth genre, you know, you had like
the Sisters of Mercy, the Cure, you know, bare House,
all these different names. It's like an actual word or
it's an interesting word. Whereas but yeah, so lost glow,
(26:14):
Like if you break it down, this wasn't super intentional,
but it's that's like sort of an email thing. It's
like you've lost You've lost your glow like you you've
lost something, you're looking for something, and really it is
just an aesthetic choice.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's really what it is. Yes, yes, so lost glow. Right,
let's so are you fully this this fully dropping the
M sixteen R or is this no? No? So M
sixteen and nine?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Is it's always going to be there because that's where
all my previous releases are, you know, collaborations with other
people and credits on the production of others of course,
and like some of my favorite songs that I've ever written,
like Ripples, one of my favorites. You know it's not
it's not necessarily my best, but it is one of
my favorites.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Thoughtless is whatever. That's just on Soundclad. That's the house
one that's fucking good. I reckon that's one of your
best songs.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I don't say that it's one, but it is because
I it does tickle my my specific niche genre of
house that I like.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, you're a sucker for bloody rally house. Yeah, fucking
I will follow that ship to the end. But yeah,
so I'm going to have both of them going at
the same time. Now.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I do want to focus more on Lost Glow and
you know, for the for the meantime, because that's sort
of the direction I want to take.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But I feel like as well, like even when you
and me have like spoke to people about your projects,
I feel like we definitely can get way more conversation.
Well just because we'll talk about it in a second.
About the new song you've released on Friday. You've been
working on that for a long time, yeah, eight months
(28:01):
or something, Yeah, a very long time. But the thing is,
I find even like we talk to a few people
at the pub when we're together, and I feel like
that song for some reason like whenever I've gone around
before with Russy and I'm like, yeah, this bloke makes
our music for the podcast, which if you don't know,
he makes any all the all the sound bites and stuff.
He usually makes them for us. He also made all
(28:22):
the shorts and well the recent ones. But anyway, he Yeah.
I used to tell people like, he's really talented. He's
made this song, he's made that, and people like, oh,
oh yeah, yeah, that's that is some talent, and then
that's the conversation. Yeah, he's currently relerked on this song
which he's about to talk about. And I have found
that we would constant like we've gone to like breweries
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and stuff, and people that were with it takes up
a full conversation. So obviously this is probably a step
in the right direction for you because it seems to
be getting traction among even just the group that you know.
So what is it? Tell us about it? Out this
news song?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay, so it's called the Truth by myself. It's listed
under both my different names, and it's featuring one of
my friends online online mates called broad Us. That's his
artist name. He's an American fellow. He did ninety percent
of the lyrics and vocals, I did the sort it's
(29:23):
sort of like the repeating chorus, but it's not it's
not technically like a full chorus.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, I mean I worked on that song for a
long time, way back, you know, last like eight months ago,
nine months. Yeah, it could have even been ten months
by now.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
It was last year you started.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, it was last year and we're already halfway through.
It was it was a synthwave song and it was
just going to be an M sixteen release. It had
my vocals on it, sort of like a placeholder. I
did just want to get someone else on it, because
you know, the lyrics are pretty like ordinary. The singings,
it's all right, but it's all tuning. Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's sort of the point where I stopped listening to
electronic music for the most part.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I do remember that sort of change. Yeah. Yeah,
And and I remember you showed me the song and
you were you were like that this is probably the
first draft. You probably showed me pretty early. This was
my last year. Yeah, I remember you showed me going
You're like, oh, I got this song, and I really
want to show you because like you're gonna hate it.
You hate email music, and I'm like, I'll still judge
(30:34):
it probably, And then you showed me and I'm like,
this is pretty good. But I actually am not the
person to judge. It's not because I'm gonna be like,
oh this is gay. I'm like, this is this is
this has got some fucking legs. How about your show?
My missus Zoe, who is a metal head, do you
remember her reaction to the initial draft? Ah? I think she,
(30:57):
I think I do.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Actually, I think she expect She said that she expected
it to be worse than it was because she was like, oh,
she just expected some bloody because I'm one of your mates.
She expected some like house bullshit or some four on
the floor eight M.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think she was like just expecting it to be
like garage bandy.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
All that, because once I told her that's like, yeah,
it's like an email song. You probably told her first.
Actually you're like, oh, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Emao song. I can't judge it because I'm not educated. Yeah,
but she probably thought it was some some bullshit.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
She probably thought I was full of singing on it
and stuff, which you know, probably wouldn't have sounded the best,
but she did, she liked She was very supportive. And
obviously it didn't sound that good at the beginning because
it's a draft, it's not mixed.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, it's different.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Had to re record guitar and stuff like that because
it's just a just a draft recording. But yeah, no,
she was pretty supportive. She liked it, she liked the idea.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I know she's been listening to it since the release.
So look as as well you put it out that,
like you've had to re record things and you've had
this like obviously you've made somewhat of a move to
physical instruments because you're sixteen. I know that a lot
of it was just all all of it, yeah, well
all of it was computer arranged, right, yeah, Yeah, what
(32:15):
equipment are you using? Like, have you had to step
up your equipment and go out and find stuff to
create recording because as we have known through our own
story here, it takes money to get good sound. It
takes a bit of you know what I mean, It
takes a bit of effort to make anything sound all
right going into computer So have you had to put
(32:37):
a lot of money and shit into it to get
the sound that you want?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Well, it's funny you say that, because, to be honest,
if you really know what you're doing and you you know,
you sort of get a couple favors as well, maybe
then you can do it on a very low budget.
Like my guitar, for example, I got that off my brother,
but like free. He got it for thirty dollars. It's
(33:05):
a pretty shit like Fender Squire imitation. Yeah, like it
works fine, but it's just you know, it's not it's
not the best looking. It's the next little bit short.
You know, it doesn't always hold that right. I had
to fix it up. I had to replace like some
of the knobs I've really strung in a couple of
times because we've had it for a while. It goes
out of teur in pretty frequently. But besides that, it's
(33:26):
like just a lead. I've got an interface, bringa just
a beranger, Yeah, just a bringer, just the small one.
It cost me like one hundred bucks. Probably what I've
spent the most on would be digital software or plugins.
I mean fl Studio I got for free because again
my brother used to use it a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, I'm just using his license.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But like guitar, well, because you know, you hear it,
it's got heavy distorted guitar. What makes you know guitar distortion?
You'd be like, oh, it's an amplifier, yeah, exactly. So
if I want to replicate that on a computer, I've
got to pay for a AMP simulation basically, you know
that costs I think can cost me like two hundred
bucks for tim really, yeah, yeah, two hundred bucks a
(34:09):
guitar rig seven.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Actually, I'm pretty sure Daniel Siro put me onto that
one because I asked him. I was like, oh, you know,
how do you get your guitar sound, and so he
told me, yeah, a guitar rig seven. So I just
I just copied that one straight up. I just copped
it because I was like, you know what, I'm sick
of this other plug and I was using free one.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It was just so laggy.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It used up like one hundred percent of the bloody
CPU and it made everything crackle. That's what FOSDA does
when a plug is really laggy. Anyway, So I'll just
spend a bit of money, And you're right, you spend
a bit of money, and that's when you get a
good sound.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
That's it. They're like, you learn especially like you're looking
at this pot now compared to the first time you
saw it. We've even spent money on it now. But
it's like you need to spend money to get their small,
small upgrades in quality, But then their small upgrades and
quality make your ship. Yeah, even though that you could
have complete talent and be really good at it, if
(35:05):
your quality is not there in the recording software or
the recording hardware, it's just going to take away all
your hard work. Yeah, well it's goose. It's something that
you're learning through this process. Yeah, you're learning that, like
you're going to have to You've got to spend a
bit of money.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, what what the equipment you have is going to
amplify your talent? Yeah, so you're shit, You've got really
good equipment. It's still it's just gonna sound ship, but
it's gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I mean, The Inspired Unemployed had a fucking podcast for
Foxakendals in the top ten. Really Yeah, so it just
shows that you have the right equipment and the right
team around you can fucking make anything. We fucking have
people that watch Usine, if we were The Inspired Unemployed,
we'll be in the top one podcast. Yeah. So look
(35:50):
just so we can we'll wrap this up a bit more.
You're so you plan on working a lot more heavy
side on this. Have you got anything in the works
that you are willing to talk about.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Or Oh, nothing specific, but I'm working on working on
a remix.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I've told you about it, but yeah, probably not not
ready to talk about it. Yeah, no, no announcements or anything.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I've got maybe one or two collabs in the works
with some other artists, but again, nothing concrete, no announcements,
you know, Yeah, I'll keep it at that.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's fair. That's fair. I mean, you're not you're not.
You know, you are driven, but it's not your number
one thing going on at the moment, So it's you
know what I mean. Yeah, you know, it's a bit different.
It's not like, you know, it's okay if you have
no announcements, because you do it, you do worry about
your life first before you make music.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, there's a couple of different things that I've gone on.
Music's just one of them. It is it is, you know,
something that I want to prioritize in the future, but
I'm taking it easse.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's like it's like with this point right like at
the moment. I do try to prioritize this pretty high
n till it starts paying me money. It's kind of
hard to justify it, but I am working. Like together,
we'd be working towards the point where we can go, oh,
we can justify this. It's paying us. But yeah, for sure,
the fucking hard road which you learn everyone, you don't.
You don't make this shit overnight.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
This is our fucking Mitch, our little fucking system here
how long twenty twenty two?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yep, it doesn't happen to have a night guys. Yeah,
well even a while. Yeah, you want to see some
You want to see some hard work and dedication and
not getting the respect he deserves. This man right here, right,
this man hard work, he's he actually is as much
as a safe way as me and Mitch. Yep, right like,
this guy is put in a lot of work for us.
(37:43):
So I will say, please show us the gratitude and
check out his new song. Rate it, give it a
good rating or whatever. Do you rate songs on Spotify?
You do?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Can I well, yeah you can like it and like
the song. My support is much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
So where can we find stuly No?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Mitchell had a point to say, an overnight success takes
ten years to build.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Absolutely ten thousand hours, guys, ten thousand hours before you're
an expert like mackhamare said. Yeah, ye, So look, let's
talk about where you can find you, because I think
these people right here need to show gratitude to you,
or at least look, you don't have to fucking full
and follow him, give him the respect to listen to
the song he's just described to you at least and
(38:27):
then form your opinion, which I know that you're going
to go, Hey, this is fucking hectic. I gotta wake
up with my life and stop listening to shit stuff
like fucking what's the tatsen the take McCrae, who are
you gonna say, Andrew, Yeah and Tate, I've gotta stop
listening to shit like that. Oh I don't know. I
listen to real music. This is your real music. Guys. Look,
(38:48):
anything any of your supports appreciated. Listen to it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
If you like emo music and if you know me
then it's always appreciated. Of course, give it a chance
if you can. Anyway you can find it. You can
obviously find it on Spotify, Apple, iTunes, all the all
the main sites.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
That's where you find it. You will find the link
in the description. Much appreciate it much, Well, it is
it on your YouTube?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's not on YouTube yet, but I will be making
like a little audio visual at some point.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Done it on YouTube, okay, because yeah, I was good.
He is going to go on the M sixteen and
you're making a whole new one. Well, the is going
to rebrand the M sixteen page. Am I keep it
on this se because on at the bottom of every
single one of our videos it has got a music
credit to his YouTube page, so that might be an
(39:39):
easy way to find it as well if you're finding
it later to this date. Yeah, okay, I'll probably do that.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Also, I tell a lie, it would be on YouTube
like on YouTube music as just the audio.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It would be on there, but not a visual or
anything like. Okay, So but you can find it on
your page there if you search for it. I think, well,
if they go through the credit that we credit you with,
they can find it. Yes, probably under the release.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
The link for the Spotify for this will be in
the description. Also, I'll make sure it's added.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Okay. Awesome, awesome, Okay, Yeah, anyway, look, there's many ways
to find it. There is many ways to find it. Look,
I just want to finish on a few little things
before Mitchell goes through his little script, so he's got
a bit of time to come up with it. Look,
Ryan has died. Ryan sadly passed away last Thursday to
(40:27):
a blown head gasket.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It wasn't There wasn't a blown head gasket. It's not
a part of the story, Mitchell. This is how you
stell stories. I'm trying to tell you, all right, he
died of a blown head gasket.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Very sad. His pisk he's come got into his blood
and now he's got a Ryan milkshake going really going
to be worried about that, Rusty, Have you got any
last words you want to say about Ryan? Look, I mean,
you can blow my head gasket anytime. You can blow
his head gasket anytime. That's all I'll say, Mitchell, Do
(41:00):
you want to do a little thing anyway? Guys, thank
if you for joining us here on the afternoon Attention.
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(41:21):
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also ladies and gentlemen, the release of our first v log,
I mean I went to I was gonna say us,
(41:45):
I mean Mitchell, I was gonna say Mitchell was busy.
So that's why it's not both of this. But this
was me on my day to going to the Big
Boys card expot. I got the whole day. Plus there
is a whole section of cardo pack openings at the end.
I know that that tickles the little fucking little bullsack
in your brain right there. The little lady hate. They
(42:06):
love seeing people ape and plastic, open bits of foil
to read cardboard and then stick them in hard plastic
like I do. So there's a whole section there. There's
a lot of me mispronouncing fucking the names because it's
in Japanese and I don't know the pokemon. If you
just want to laugh at gender, it's very funny. I've
(42:27):
been told a lot that people think what I have
called these mons, that I don't know their names. It's
very funny. So yeah, make sure you check that out.
Give us a like. I really appreciate it. Now rusty
on the words, but I repeat, blow my head gasket,
it's yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Asks to seist