Aztec UFO Crash 1948 - WTF Happened?

Tonight on Alien Addict! I unbox a book detailing the UFO crash in Aztec in 1948, plus loads of up to date news on ufology in the past week.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yah. Welcome morning everyone, and welcome back. It's an Alien Addict.

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(02:06):
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conclusion on the materials I shall present on any show
that I do on Ailien that Adia release. So, as
we're all adults, we need to take a good word pad,
you know, don't step down to the neck of chamber
and make sure you're sort of smooth things out and
come to a rational conclusion. Let's put this music down

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a little bit. I hoard that was a bit different. Yeah, man, Yeah,
I hope everyone's had a good week. I see I've
made a new friend. She liked my new friend. His name, Well,
it's a she. I just found out just a minute ago.
This was taken the other day. I called her Roxy
she's been turning up. She's there right now looking at me.

(02:50):
She wants a food already, bloody feather. I feed her
all the scraps, anything that my cat don't eat, you know,
like chicken. I mean obviously I'm a meat eater, so
anything like that will be to the fox. And she's
been coming every single day. And I'm not joking. I've
got video here. Look how close she comes to me.

(03:11):
Look at this. They're that cool. Yeah, so I've got
a pit of fox. She's lovely. I gotta be really
careful because you know they I don't say they've got
like rabies or anything like that, do you know what
I mean? It's it's a beautiful fox. And how many

(03:31):
times does anybody in England actually come close to a fox?
And she's very very nice. Her name's Roxy, so she
might make her a special appearance at some point during
the show. Where am I there? We go, Eh, welcome
on in everyone, let's get onto chat. So yeah, I'm
just experimenting moments, trying to I keep on listening to
like podcasts like live shows, and they have like the
music going in through the intro, and I thought, oh,

(03:54):
I'll just try that. But with stream yard it's pretty
pretty crap. Oh and yet another thing I need to
double check. Am I live and rumble? Yeah, I'm right, okay,
So yeah, if you go to investigate with Nick and
the people that are in Rumble at the moment. Hello,
it's my first live stream on the channel. Was just
a bit of a test run because I can actually

(04:15):
put the live show out to different platforms. So I'm
trying and rumble this time. So I'll everyone to investigate
with Nick. So yeah, youre probably wondering, who's that baby
twat wuff for puts all this time laps videos out?
Is this guy right here right here? Yes, And we'll
get to rumble because I'm going to start doing it
more because there's one thing I've noticed. I get to
chat a minute. I got to chat a minute. You
know me, Guys, you know I cannot stop talking about

(04:37):
wait for it, wait for it, trying to find it.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, you know me, I've got eight minutes until I
can't say that word. So I noticed with YouTube do
not like that topic, even though it's not technically a
conspiracy theory anymore really when you look at it, but
the views, I mean, how many views on a YouTube
channel that gets like fifteen views and it's been out

(05:04):
for like over a year. Do you know what I mean?
You know, it's something doesn't make sense. And I do
a lot of these trail analysis videos like did a
block out the sun? And the weather man said, you know,
different sort of parts for me really analyzing the skies,
and YouTube are like no, no, no no. So I'm
going to start going live on Rumble, put more videos
out and Rumble. I have to move away from YouTube,

(05:28):
I know, with like the new Trump administration and stuff
like that. You know, you expect like a bit miracles,
a bit more free speech. But YouTube is owned by Google, Google,
you know what I mean. So it's you ain't gonna
get any troth about that. But nevertheless, let's get through chat.
So John Stokes, how's it going, man? Rodarie roto if
you've changed the name rotary Matrix was what it was

(05:48):
motion at some point, but yeah, like in the name man,
like in the name. We've got one two Saxon Hey, man, Hey,
this was supposed to be a Ladermitterzinski episode, but I
think that's going to be next week. It's a German
flying saucer one next week it might splice the probably
a quiz into that, but yeah, thanks for turning up
man the Aztec. Yes, don't worry. I haven't even opened

(06:08):
the book yet. I'm gonna switch the camera around so
you're gonna get like a bird's eye view of me
open up the book for the first time. But yeah,
thanks for coming in, man, And yeah, it's a great topic.
It's actually in terms of we'll get to it. We'll
get to it. But thanks being here. Man, Ray, Rebecca,
how's a good man? They mean your man, sister. How's
it going? How's it going? I'll call a Bell's cats?

(06:28):
Nice as see you. I assume who got one here?
Who got Oh it's another one? Chuck's last chin? How's
a girl?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Man?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Unfortunately I don't do Discord yet. I was thinking about
doing Discord all that sort of stuff. Now it's kind
of new to me, but I know the Daily Conspiracy
podcast got a pretty decent Discord. So yeah, go check
him out, man, go check him out. Let's have a
little look and want So I've missed in chat. No
I think that's said, Oh ship hop pop? How's it going? Yeah?

(07:04):
Oh good on rumble? Yeah, I've just checked so yeah,
we'll see the viewings. You should see the viewings. So
let's get started today. Let's bring up videos. Well, I've
showing a lot of videos today and a lot of
well in terms of information. Okay, this is oh on

(07:29):
where is it? Two one, two, three, four, five six,
I tell you, I'll just bring it up instead. Let's
do that. Let me see you. Yeah, this is one
of the situations. This is not a real photograph, by
the way, as you gathered, one of these cases that
I have heard about but not necessarily done a lot

(07:51):
of research into it, because I kind of treated like
the Roswell. Now, I've done so much research years ago
on to Roswell case, and i'd quite like to pick
it up again with like especially with Hidden Underbelly, which,
by the way, he went live without me yesterday. I'm
sure it's fine, don't wory. I'm not offended. It's probably
a bit of a shock for you guys, like where's

(08:11):
course mc nick, well Nacy nick as one would say,
But you know, it was a good dropping show. But anyway,
it's the same blandy channel. I'm not offended one bit,
but I'd like to do a show on Roswell, on
Hidden under Bay's channel at some point. Now the az
Tech goes in the same sort of line, because this
was the first UFO crash. Okay, I need to explain

(08:33):
how things are going to go with this, But in
terms of yeah, I was thinking about that rotary at
some point, I'm just getting my head around it. Stream
Yards added a new feature where you can add new destinations,
so I'm just sort of I'm not really tech savvy
when it comes to that sort of stuff. So, hey, Sandy,
how's a gun might be a good streaming? Yes, a
lot of people do get a lot of views on that.

(08:53):
I have to admit. I'll do that for next week. Actually,
a hashammers hammers as a going man, I'll come on there.
But yeah, I might try might try it, acts might
try it. Hey, John pi Aventures, I was trying to
figure the name. Then how's it going, man? Yeah, look, okay,

(09:18):
this is a bit like I don't want to treat
it like them on Top Project or the Philadelphia Experiment.
I don't want to have that attitude. When I did
a livestream on Hit and under Belly, I thought it
was a bit naive of me. I have to be
I'm struggling mentally at the moment, guys. So it does
affect a lot of like part of eupology just to

(09:39):
thinking like there's no hope. But I would have to
agree I'm fifty to fifty on this, Rebecca when it
terms in terms of what what's fake? Now the information
I've been looking online because bear in mind the book
I've got here where she will open up in a minute,
was just go through the Aztec crash. First of all?
Is that the fact that the information online that I'm

(10:02):
coming across seems to be a lot of debunks, a
lot of skeptic that sort of information. Yeah, that goes
with the territory with Google. Of course you're going to
get is it faking gay? Where should get? If it's
this faking gay? Brother? Welcome on men, man, I do
you know what if you asked me yesterday to come

(10:22):
on to the show for a pop and shot, I
couldn't have done it, mate, I was. I was so
busy yesterday. But it's good to see you on your own.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's hard, isn't it fucking hard? But yeah? Oh me
and Hidden We're going live Wednesday this Wednesday. Come in.
I'm talking about Alistair Crowley, which I'm having wed nightmares
doing research into, and Happy four twenty. Yes, I'll get
to that minute. So yeah, in terms of what information
I'm coming across, not a lot I have to meet.

(10:48):
I've been looking at videos. In terms of like documentation,
there isn't really much to go on. Yes, the Skully Report,
We'll get to that. I'm going to show show videos
first of all. So I'm coming into this as very
new because, like I said, I've heard of the az
Tech UFO crash, but I haven't really gone to like
a deep dive into it. Hence why I got the book.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I need to explain the book first of all, or
should I tell you what? Should we just go through
the az Tech. Let's get my notes out of the
way for us, because I'm going to show you how
much this book. This is one of the most expensive
books in upology, and I think it's bloody disgusted and
how people try to rip money out of people in
such a really hard time, especially in England. But I'm
actually get for a bargain of a deal. Yes, So anyway,

(11:34):
right as Tech, the as Tech. So what is that
all about?

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Mate?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
What the hell is all that about. So the as
Tech much love rather much love. Yeah. I oh, and
if it's still there, give us a shout like the
day before, because I need to liaise with you when
it terms of information on all right, So yeah, that'd
be cool if we can do that, brother. So yeah,
the as Tech UFO crash onously, this was long before Roswell,

(12:02):
which came into the public eye, which led to which
led obviously to the most UFO crash in eupology, which
we're talking about Roswell. But before that you had the
Aztec crash, and this was the first crash of all
UFO stories. This was obviously based in New Mexico. So
the tell of the nineteen forty eight crash that a
flying saucer crashed in New Mexico in the councy or

(12:28):
country called Azteco, because I might got that wrong on board.
Apparently there were fourteen to eighteen bodies that actually came
from the UFO crash itself, and obviously they had a
recovery personnel's order to recover the flying saucer and this
was done under the highest of secrecy by the US military. Now,

(12:49):
the timeline of the Aztec report is that there was
oiled field workers little after five am on my actually
twenty fifth, nineteen forty eight, where the first reports came
in of a large bushfire on this mesa meser. I
do apologize, yes, the maser off the Hart Canyon Road.

(13:12):
As the oil filled workers went out to actually locate
the site of the fire, they discovered a large disc,
now this was approximately one hundred feet in diameter, sitting
on top of a mesa. This had nothing to do
with the bushfire because the oil dipped tanks out there
at the time, and the people at the El Paso
Oil Company were notified of the bush fire and should

(13:35):
get out there to obviously investigate the fire because obviously
safety concerns in that aspect. On the once on site
of the crash, they noticed a large disc, like I said,
on top of the meser. The military did show up
later in the afternoon or early afternoon, and one local

(13:57):
enforcement officer was warrened that locals uh wards to the locals,
I do apologize, I get more word mixed up here
that the military would be there eventually. So they did
sort of corner it off, and they were reports from
the public in as tech that they were restricted from
this area. Okay, So we are really relying on reports
and everything like this, okay and at the time. Okay,

(14:20):
so this correlates to what Roswell comes into when how
they actually downed the UFO. Hey, John, how's it go?

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Man?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wicked footage you took the other day? Yeah, it was
actually on the Eddings Show yesterday. Yeah, man, And uh,
good to speak, good to have you on with me
and hidden at some point and good for a good
to have a little catch up man. But yeah, before
and I hope you do well, John, hope you're doing well.
So yeah, yeah, this as tech crash. It's it's an
interesting one, okay, because, like I said, it kind of
correlates to Roswell because it was basically one year apart

(14:53):
and the one explanation was, now this is going back
or like what Rebecca was saying on the Skyley report
that the the UFO or their flying saucer, I just
say that was actually down by an experimental radar system
that was actually been tested in Aztec. Like I said,

(15:15):
just like Roswell came to the same conclusion that what
was downed the flying saucer was to do with the
radar system being tested there are actually documents to prove
there's some kind of radar system actually been tested in
the area, and these does not go into what the
flying sources craft or the radar signals. So basically what

(15:37):
what in the locations of where these radar systems were
being tested was Corona, which was located in Walker. I'm
trying to think, yeah, so yeah, I said yeah, because
Corona is basically where Roswell is and there was a

(15:59):
military based there. I think it's Patterson Air Force Base.
Don't think that's where the radar system was tested, but
it was in the facility, so you had for this
radar facilities around that sort of area doing tests. So again,
are these just like regurgitated stories, just like Roswell? But
I have to admit looking at where, looking at what

(16:21):
came first, was it Roswell or as Tech? And technically
the story came from as Tech first because this was
in the nineteen fifties and then Roswell really came into
Fleshy and I think it was nineteen seventies. I need
to like respruce my history on that. So that's just
a basic background. Okay, As I say, this is like
really early stages. So this might be just part one.

(16:42):
I might have to do like part two and everything.
So what I'm going to do, I'm going to bring
up some videos because they're going to explain it more
than me and me mate chat, I have missed anyone.
I think that's everyone. Yeah, I'll get to chat in
a moment. Guys. Let's just pretty right. I think this

(17:16):
is the one. Yes, it is okay, So yes, this
one is called not a hoax. In terms of documentaries
and TV series, this is the only one that really
pops up. Like I said, guys, spent a week really
researching this, knowing I was going to buy this book
a fortune, I could do an episode an Alien Addict,
and I just really couldn't really find anything, and this

(17:38):
one just kept them coming up. So I'm really basing
so far what I've researched online before I get to
the book, which is immensely big read, which we are
really going to get into the details, into the nitty gritty,
you know, the proper investigation work. So let's bring my
notes up because I've got time stamps here, and obviously
I will get into the skeptic route as well, because

(17:58):
you know me, I've got to go fifty to fifty
on everything. So let's bring this up. I'm just gonna
play some clips and I'm going to get to chat.
So this guy here, I forget his name, or should
I go back and explain it? Okay, this is going
to explain the sort of I don't want to talk

(18:19):
about the skeptic route first, but let's just go in
correlation of how the story really built up, because we
are started from the nineteen fifties, Like Rebecca said, the
Scully Report. Now, this was a book back in graub
notes here, So yeah, there's a there's a guy called

(18:41):
Oh do you know what sod it? I'm just going
to play the video. It's going to explain it anyway.
I've got so many notes here, and I've made so
many a spelling mistakes. Terrible, Right, let's start from the beginning, Okay.
So the idea is that in the nineteen fifties there
was this author named Scully. Can't remember what is his
last name was? I think that is his last name,
brought out a book in the nineteen fifties, early nineteen

(19:02):
fifties called Oh my God, I've got to Find a
hair because ok yeah, behind the flying sources which was
the first tells of the stories of Aztec. And yeah,
so it's all really based upon a book from the
nineteen fifties. Let's starf this because I can be rambling.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Otherwise, report from the oil field workers a little after
five am on marched.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, I think it's this rightfully.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
That they had been notified.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
Astec is a fascinating case because it was the original
if you will crash Flying Saucer story, and it surfaced
it first in nineteen forty nine in the columns written
by Scully in the Daily Variety. It ultimately led to
a best selling book that Scully wrote.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
And hey, Bob, I think it's.

Speaker 8 (19:57):
All something on the order of sixty thousand copies in
nineteen fifty in hardcover, and then went on to twelve
editions overseas, and on and on and on. I mean
it was remarkable how successful.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It was.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Obviously struck some kind of real court. It was also
total nonset and and Scully was either a one of
these fellows who knew enough new enough not to ask
question might you want to hear the answers to or
he was genuinely duped by a fellow named Silas Newton
and a sidekick of his name Leo Gebauer, who became

(20:27):
known as doctor G.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
And Scully's book.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
As a video creator our biggest for it takes up
a lot of time go away.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
In Frank Scully's book Behind the Flying Saucers, which came
out in nineteen fifty, he tells the ESK.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, do you know what? I don't know that Corbell
katz Uh. I know, I would have thought so Scully,
Molder and Scully. Oh what's the name, Dana Scully? That's it? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Could be bat could be next story as told by
to him by Silas Newton and Leo Getbauer. Silas Newton
and Leo Getbauer then introduced Frank Scully to at least
eight scientists that allegedly worked on the Aspect crash. Frank
Scully took these eight people and molded them into one,

(21:19):
Doctor G. The skeptics like to attack the story if
they haven't researched it, and say that doctor G was
Leo Getbauer. Leo Getbauer was no more a scientist than anybody.
He was an electrical engineer that worked with Silas Newton,
more of a glorifying electrician.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
More than an electrical engineer.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Frank Scully in his book plainly states that doctor g
is up to eight scientists that worked on the recovered.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
UFO at Aztec. Okay, essentially these two guys were.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, so what you got so far that Frank Scully
brought out a book and he was aimes in this
book that he encountered encountered eight scientists that were involved
with the Aztec crash. And this is where it gets
his stories from. Obviously, he printed it in his book
Cord Behind the Flying Saucer nineteen fifties. It was actually

(22:16):
quite a very popular book, actually sold sixty thousand copies,
which is pretty good back then, you know, in nineteen fifties.
So you can see where the story started to come from. Okay,
so this was before Roswell, which is actually quite quite surprising.
So this is obviously a debunker clearly. But you get
to see the people. The two people which was Leo

(22:38):
I forgot his body his last name, so Leo and
and Newton, Yeah, Leo Newton basically basically two con men,
and they're the one that fed the information to Frank
Scully in regards of the Aztec crash. So it is.
It really really is based upon trust me Bro's do

(23:00):
you know what I mean? Like it's you know, when
you look at like uphology as a hallway, it really
is based upon is trust me? Bro's. Okay, I'm going
to say that very nicely. You know, I'm not saying
that as fake, you know, but we need to be
a bit skeptical. But anyway, this guy's a skeptic. We've
got to listen to his opinions, you know, diverse research,
and it's what talking about.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
On E I'm men who were in the process of
trying to peddle a doodle bug, which is an oil
and gas industry tag for a device that will find
it oil and gas, but of course it doesn't. And
in his case, it was a machine that not only
found oil and gas, with gold and water and pretty
much anything that the mark was interested in finding. And

(23:42):
on top of that, Bauer had invented something similar which
also supposed that they could assess the health of a person.
So this was sort of an all in one, do
it all kind of thing. But what they did, which
was unusual and made their little bit unique in that
it was that they claimed that their doodle bug was
better than anybody else's because it was using technology that

(24:02):
had been taken from the flying saucer that allgi hos
a good and therefore obviously it was far superior. Doctor
g our Friend Gabauer was supposedly a magnetics expert who
was one of those called in by the Air Force
when the saucer was tracked into ground near Aztec, where
it floated to ground, not actually crashed, and presumably disabled

(24:26):
by a high powered radar somewhere nearby.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
That was such was a claim.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
Anyhow, the whole thing was a total conjob, and it
was quickly recognized as such an and then really exposed
in detail of nineteen fifty two by JP Kahn. It
was an investigative reporter I think he was with the
San Francisca Examiner on the mistake, and he did a
four or five month investigation in detail, including man managing

(24:52):
to con the convent.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I shut up, shut up for you. Oh okay, So
as you can say, And this seems to be such
a recurrent thing on the internet, A lot of debunks.
I'm not joking, like ninety five percent, it's just debunk debunk.
Debunk is crazy. So yeah, I really want to get

(25:17):
into the knitt and gritty of this. Let's just get
forward because we have Stanton Freeman, the man himself love
to do an episode on him. There you go, So
let's listen to what Stanton Freeman has to say. God
Breast the soul.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
I think the fact that those files are still classified
might be the result of two quite different things. One
is that they really were involved in some stuff and
had some information that for whatever reason, they agreed not
to talk about, but the FBI pressured them and so forth.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's certainly a possibility.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
Another is a general FBI attitude, the old j Edgar
Hoover attitude about keeping track of people and getting file
and you know, having power over them. And I don't
know which it was. Newton was sharp, no question about that.
Whether he stumbled across some things that he shouldn't have

(26:11):
stumbled across, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (26:15):
A number of FBI documents make it very clear that
the FBI and the Air Force at the time were.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Following Newton and Jabear very very closely. Yeah, this was
I remember watching the X File. Was I was quite
late to the game on when I'll actually really started
watching it. I remember season I think it finished on
season nine or ten, and the last two seasons, I
have to admit, Rebecca were pretty blur even probably before then,

(26:43):
because I remember, yeah, David leftn't the and you had
the guy from the terminator for I forgot his bloody
name now, but yeah, yeah. Otherwise, the early seasons are
pretty damn good man and quite relevant actually to today.
Guests bring up some testimonies because I want to open

(27:03):
up this book. I want to open this book. So
when does it say her testimonies thirty twenty four.

Speaker 10 (27:12):
Let's do this precedence, no matter how much the skeptics
might tell you otherwise.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Let's still a comparison of Roswell and asketec.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Roswell made the front page of many, many newspapers.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Across the country.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
We had an intelligence officer who was given the release
to go ahead and release the information to the press,
later retracting it the next day. As Tech, we may
have one newspaper article that baked out that has conveniently
disappeared out of the archives. You hear the argument we
don't have eyewitnesses at as Tech, Well, we didn't have

(27:54):
eyewitnesses four or five years ago.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We have eyewitnesses now. Unfortunately some are deceased.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, apparently.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Ye was Doug Norlan.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
Grew up in the Four Corners area at nineteen years
of age work for the LPs Oil Company.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Was in his truck that day the radio.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay, as this is playing, because we're thirty minutes in,
I've just given this is just like a brief background
of testimonies and everything, because like I said, there wasn't
really a lot to go on until I'll do like
a proper deep dive into everything. So what I'm going
to do is take a swig of my tea. I'm
going to stand up. I'm going to officially open the

(28:41):
Aztec book. Okay, in facts, let's let's just go through
eBay because I need to show you how expensive this
book is. So let's get rid of that for a moment,
and let's bring up. Yeah, the new X File was
apparently I was gonna say that, Yeah, I couldn't figure

(29:05):
the word bloody word that brain fat then yeah, like woke.
I don't know if they actually changed the characters and
to like ethnic minorities or something like that. I wouldn't
be surprised if they did, you know, but I hope
they learn a lesson lot of why reboot it?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I just.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I don't know what planned forward they're going to go
with it. I reckon because you have the good dynamic
with with Molder and Scully, with them two, because obviously
Scully was more skeptic and Molder was the more the
true believer, and you had the two sort of in
a way, sort of rationally battling it out with each other,
and then eventually Scully Chang changes her mind. But now

(29:44):
I reckon, probably most likely they're going to go down
like a skeptic group or crap on a subject. I'll
be interested to see what they do with the UFO topic,
especially today's day and age. I'll be interested to see
what happens with that. But yeah, I know why reboot
it is the other thing I thought they made. They
made new ones anyway, didn't they make like a new season?

(30:08):
I remember I remember seeing that like five years ago. Yeah,
go check out John Guys. Uh real, I'll bring up
the Lincoln the minute. I'll stick it in Chat Florida. Real, UFOs.
I think that's ther channel. I know that is your
channel there, your name, his name is right there, John

(30:28):
Well an idiot. That's why that's what happens when you'
four twenty mate. Yeah, go check out John's channel. Man,
he's really got some good content on that, really really
good stuff. Oh I know, bad news anything to do
with Disney turns to ship Bob. You know, it's like
I'll watch it just to see it's gonna be black truck. Yeah.

(30:58):
Oh man, just from the woke aspect, I'm really curious
to see what they do with it. It's like doctor who.
So they had the mail, they had the women, they've
got the black guy. I guarantee it's going to be
like an Indian or Chinese. Honestly, it's like this is
the BBC we're talking about. Oh yeah, and by the way,
the BBC just really pisses me off. They sent me

(31:19):
an email saying, oh, we're just reviewing the TV license.
Do you watch this, this, this, this and this, And
I go no, no, no, no, no no, And he
still come back and go no, who actually still owe
us money? And they put like a little red box
with red letters threatening letters going oh yeah, we'll take
you to court if you don't pay. I was like,
fucking do not come and thretten me because I found

(31:43):
some dirty stuff some really nasty stuff on what children
in need were actually doing hiding ped up you know,
pdf files another word for pedet that you know, the
people that the BBC been protecting. I'm going off on one. Man,
oh man, wokeness. Really, I tell you what. I just say.

(32:03):
One thing. I got an elderly client. She's I think
she's like eighty. She's eighty five years old, little old
lady and really really posh, you know, lives in a
lovely bungalow. And name's Jill. And she goes, oh, Nick.
It was the first thing, you know, she I think
she's the first thing I saw her and I said, Hi,

(32:25):
my name's Neck and mcgardner. She goes, oh Neck. I'm
sick of this wokeness. And I'm like me and you
we're going to get on fine, like best mates.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
Sence.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yes, yes, I think it's discussing how they treat people.
I see I'm going off on one. I'm going off
on one. So what am I doing? Like book book?
We leave that to the end of the show where
I can have my little rants and I an shadow
band alien addicts even more. Okay, it is right, where
is eBay? Where is eBay? Is okay, So it just

(33:02):
goes to show spring up a bit bigger deny. I
always deny that. Okay. So these are the only ones
on eBay. Okay, Now these are from America. Yes, agree
with John Disney can suck it, especially what they did
with Star Wars terrible. So as you can see, this

(33:24):
is the book I purchased. And obviously, well that one's
from England, okay, and that one's from America because obviously
the posting package and it says from the United States.
So this one doesn't have the cover on it. So
this is two hundred and twenty four dollars and twenty
seven cents because obviously in America, so you are looking

(33:45):
about about one hundred and seventy quid two hundred and
seventy pounds is sent over it, including posters and package.
Now this one I thought absolutely tookes the piss. So
is it show enough? No, it's not. Okay, in that case,
I can do that and that Look, this is what
I mean. What it just pisses me off when people
just really try and milk it for what is worth.

(34:11):
Do you know what I mean? Look at the price
of this four hundred and sixty five pound seventy two
p man, are you taking the piss? And it's got
six viewers, so that's six watchers and it never sells.
It never sells, Okay. So this is the original book.
And I've been looking for this book. Oh that one there,

(34:31):
brilliant Okay, right, that's the next on the list. Say that, okay,
that's the next one I want to get. Yeah. So,
as you can see, these books are a lot of money.
So I've been looking for this book for about seven
probably five seven years something like that, and I managed

(34:51):
to find it on eBay. A how's it going? A
waf W seven? I was going just call you double
o seven, mate, how's it going? I see it, man,
I see you. You scan that? Yes, I could double
seven pull it on archive. I haven't checked on that,
is it?

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Archive dot org. I should probably do that. It is
a big book, man, is like, is a big thick
book as well. Get to it in a minute. So, yeah,
I saw this for it was eighty five pound, okay,
eighty five pound, and it had six watches, and I
forgot to bid on it and it ended and it

(35:33):
didn't sell. So I messaged the buyer. I says, look,
if I chucked you ninety quid, would you send it
to me? And eventually he said yes. I thought, fucking
boom bang and let alone. It came yesterday and it's
finally here. Now this is the book I having opened it. Now,

(35:55):
some of these really immature and draw penis with an arrow,
saying UFO pointed to it. Now, that's just the mature
who did that? So right, So I'm going to do
such an ideot honestly, Well, let me miss the says,
grow up nick nah, she will find that funny. Right,
let's bring up this and just listen to some more

(36:16):
testimonies because I need to turn the camera around so
you can see me open this up live and we're
going to go through the book. We're not going to
read it, but we're just going to go for the
pages so you can see what I go through when
I buy these books. Okay, is it on boxing stream?
That's right, Bob, it certainly is, so give me, like,
just give me a minute, and I've just got to

(36:38):
turn the camera around, all right, last clip play?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Then an old Motorola radio in the truck traveling with
his boss, Bill Ferguson. They were called on the radio
to get out to her canyon because of the brush fire,
the infamous brush fire we hear about. Upon arriving at
the crash site, they were told by other workers the brushfires.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
On one side.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
They were worried about a drip tank at getting ignited
in the brushfire. Upon arrival there, other oil field workers
told them that it's not the brush fire.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
You got to see.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
You got to see what's laying up on the macy.
Doug went on to tell us all the locals that
were there, the police, the two police officers that were there,
his boss, Bill Ferguson, who's probably deceased, although we were
still looking for him. I had the luxury of interviewing
Doug back about October of two thousand and three, and

(37:37):
he passed away December seventh, and then.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
We have an eyewitness. We have a deathbed confession.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Dougett had six strokes from June until October. It was
very slow and methodical and recalling the incident and.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Appeared to be very credible in the interview.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
In the late nineties early two thousand, we were contacted
by a gentleman Ken Farley from bat Cave, Arizona, and
Ken wanted to talk to us. He was in very
bad health. Randy Barnes and I met down in.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, right, the car drove up.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I'd love to go to eight hours as a.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Ken was some point. Yeah, he has since passed away.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I'm just fortunate.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Told his side of.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
The story that he was in Durango passing through to
San Diego, fresh out of the military, met a friend
in Cedar Hill at drop off point where he was
to pick him up and keep traveling to San Diego.
His friend told him there was a lot of commotion
going on out on Hard Canyon Road and they thought
an aircraft had gone down. Ken and his friend got

(38:52):
to the crash site and walked out to the western
side of where the disc was, and that point a
group of people from Aztec Doyle Field.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Hey go, I need one. Hey, gust over UFO hours ago. Man,
welcome on in. I think you knew. Yeah, love the name, mate,
love the name. Yeah. We'll get ready. I'm just gonna
quickly for twenty and let's do it.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
People. Two law enforcement officers showed up.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
We're already actually at the scene, and we found Ken's
story believable, but we had a hard time digesting the
two police officers.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
We figured today, if.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
You were out there and you called nine one one,
you'd be lucky to get one in a reasonable time.

Speaker 11 (39:46):
All right, Okay, that's just some testimonies there, guys. Right, okay, stupid.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Right, Okay, I'll tell you what put on full screen,
which is note not that one. Oh my god, what's what?

Speaker 9 (40:06):
There?

Speaker 4 (40:06):
We go?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Right? Fantastic. So as you can see, this is what
I go through pretty much every month when I get paid,
I will buy at least a couple of books just

(40:28):
to add to my collection. I'm trying to build my
collection up, like specially old books and like old materials,
especially like rare books, because I think me being a researcher,
I like to go through old material. I like to
go find the original material. And before we had the internet,
obviously we had books like this. Okay, so yeah, this

(40:52):
is another one to the collection. So let's open it up.
Get excited now, so let's you can see it. Let's
do that and you can see it.

Speaker 12 (41:09):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Do do do do do so I can't move the
camera back anymore unfortunately, as said, right, let's do that.
Brilliant Okay, ok So this is definitely worth having in
your book collection, especially when you're dealing with yourthology. Look

(41:38):
at that. Oh brilliant. All right, chat over there. So
this is like a special occasion. Okay, I'll do this because,
like I said, I've been looking at this book for
quite a number of years. Oh my god, it's actually

(41:59):
really good condition. God, don't bloody rip it, Nick, Okay,
bring it up slowly. Thank God for that. Both ladies
and gentlemen are very rare book to have on one
of the most strangest cases, the UFO crash at Aztec.

(42:22):
So this is the original book, and I'm so bloody
for all I've got it. So, yeah, who is the
author of this? Okay? So Rendell E. C. Stevens, Now
that guy is connected to obviously Billy Meyer and stuff
like that. Is actually a really good condition. It's actually
really good. Okay, let's just go through make sure so

(42:44):
you can see it like that. Okay, so you can
see how big it is. It's the pages, is it? Yeah,
it's over six hundred and twenty five and it's actually documents.

(43:06):
Oh that's good then, So see what I mean? This
is what I like. I like to see documentation, and
this is what I want to go through next week, okay,
because we want to go through this. Oh hold on,
Oh my god, that's a majestic twelve document. Oh hold on, Yeah,
actually that looks familiar. Okay, we'll go for it. We'll
go for it. But yeah, this is what I mean
is finding at least some sort of tangible evidence, not

(43:32):
relying on the internet for information. This is going to
send me ages to read. But as you can see,
it is a lengthy book. Interesting. Okay, Well there we
go from what people are like, that's prety boring, Nick,
I'm sorry, guys. I thought i'd be like something special.

(43:55):
But yeah, this is, like I said, this is a
very rare book to have for a I wouldn't consider
myself a ufologist, but I do like to study the
history of yourthology, and that requires obviously research and buying books.
But this is interesting. Okay, Well that's good. All right.
Well you can see through the pages if we do

(44:19):
that Chinese thing. Have you seen the Chinese people when
they just go like that and they've like read the
page and they go to another one. The girl like that,
I read it. Yeah, I read it. I read it.
If you see, I'm not joking that's a real thing
in China. But yeah, there we go. Okay, so, oh
that that's the Avro car what we're supposed to actually
look like interesting. Okay, all right, that's it. There we go, guys,

(44:42):
So give me a couple of shows because next week
we want to do Vladimittazinski and stuff like that. Oh
that's good, John, That's that's good. Yeah, like I said,
because this, guys, you will you will not find out online,

(45:02):
Okay in terms of like the pages and everything, you know,
it's I mean, you can have a little look at
archive right now, but this I doubt someone's actually printed
off or scanned six hundred and twenty five pages. So yeah,
this first time looking at this book, the UFO crash
ads as tech. Like I said, it's it's a rare book,
very expensive, but I got it for a really decent price.

(45:25):
So there we go.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Go.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yes, there we go, So thumbs up. AI lovely. I'm
just I'm gonna switch it around in a minute. Hold on,
let's uh, let's bring out something first. Now. Remember I
always say that with the internet, the birth of the Internet,

(45:54):
and how the fact that, oh God, such a dickhead
I clicked the bloody wrong button one idiot. So the
Internet's a marvelous thing as a marveless talk to get information.
But however, once you start doing deep dives into certain topics,
especially conspiracy theory, and even when it comes like UFOs

(46:18):
and that sort of topic, you get videos that tend
to essentialize the stories. Now, what I'm about to show
you here is something I probably would have done if
I was a teenager. Okay, you can see that the
stories and claims and everything gets a bit too too
far fetch. But anyway, it's entertainment. It's just just a

(46:41):
short clip. It was probably about five minutes. Well it
was elevenues long. Okay, never mind, just got switched the
camera around. But yeah, listen, I love the music. Yeah,

(47:12):
I could do Rebecca. If you can hand me a music,
let's be terrible.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Hi.

Speaker 13 (47:22):
I'm here in Aztec, New Mexico, catching up on some
reading in Frank Scully's nineteen fifty book Behind the Flying Saucers.
Here in Aztec they hold an annual UFO Symposium, and
it's been held since nineteen ninety seven. In late March
is a benefit for the Aztec Public Library. Incidentally, nineteen

(47:46):
ninety seven is the fiftieth anniversary of the supposed crash
of an alien spacecraft in Roswell, New Mexico. Now this
ans Tech UFO Symposium is a two day event. In
the past they've had guest speakers such as Stanton Friedman,
Ted Phillips, doctor Jesse Marcel Junior, Scott Ramsey, Travis Walton,

(48:11):
Linna Moulton Howe, Carl Flock, Jim Mars, and the band
U poetry. You may wonder what all this excitement is
about UFOs and Aztec New Mexico in the far northwestern
part of the state. Well Francis Joseph Xavier Scully was
a writer for Daily Variety magazine in the late nineteen forties.

(48:35):
It was more or less an entertainment magazine of the day,
and he'd had a hard life. He lost a leg
to shrapnel in World War One. He'd lost a lung
to tuberculosis and also suffered ossio myelitis.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But he wound up meeting.

Speaker 13 (48:52):
A prospector named Silas Newton, who in turn introduced him
to a geophysicist and supposed that ex in magnetic research
in nineteen forty nine named Leo Gibauer. Gebar claimed to
have been in on a retrieval of a flying saucer
and Aztec and claimed that the reason that the saucer
had fallen was that it was knocked out of the

(49:14):
sky by magneto trouble caused by radar stations here in
New Mexico. Scully was looking for a story, and in
seventy two days he wrote Behind the Flying Saucers, one
of the first flying saucer books. Depending on which version
of the story you believe, either he interviewed eight scientists

(49:36):
and combined them into one character in the book called
Doctor g.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well.

Speaker 13 (49:40):
The other version is that Leo Gabauer himself was Doctor g.
The book was a best seller, selling over sixty thousand copies.
According to the story, about five am on March twenty eighth,
nineteen forty eight, out here on Hart Canyon Road, about
twelve miles How's that Aztec, New Mexico, some oil field

(50:03):
workers thought that they saw an oil fire.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
They came out here on.

Speaker 13 (50:07):
The Mesa to investigate, and when they got here they
found a flying saucer. Now, according to Scully, these flying
saucers have been developed a long time before this one
crashed out here in Hard Canyon, The Venusians saw that
it was going to be a long trip here to

(50:27):
Earth from Venus, and so they had sleeping quarters built
into their spaceship.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
When they found out.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
That there was a much shorter trip, hey to't you say.

Speaker 13 (50:37):
They decided to dispense with those. Now you may wonder
why Venusians would bother to come twenty six million miles
he stave Earth from Venus. Well, it was because they
wanted to investigate it.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
You see why the story is just getting more essentialized,
you know, because haven't even come across this information yet.
It might be in this book if you knows, but
you see what the stories get going with the Internet.
It's just this is old, man. This is like came
out like twenty ten.

Speaker 13 (51:05):
I think atomic tests that were going on at the
time of the South Pacific.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I'm not sure account though.

Speaker 13 (51:13):
For how they crashed five three hundred miles from a
Bikini atoll if they could navigate all their way here
from Venus. The military arrived that afternoon and they secured
the area in a two mile radius.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I'm gonna be honest with you, why, first of all,
that looks like a bloody billy maer ufo. But if
I lived in that area, right, I would do exactly
the same as this guy. I'll I just want to
be part of it. I want to be part of something,
So might not make a documentary. Just a few more
minutes of this guys, and then we'll move on right around.

Speaker 13 (51:51):
This supposed crash site to recover the flying saucer. They
built this secret road that comes up here all this.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Oh, you sound like possibly a local, I am. I
can't give anything away, but I know that place. I
think conty so far. I think you are not too

(52:23):
far because that is literally like less than five miles
away from me. Yeah, I think I saw you on
Aidien and years ago. I think, yeah, yeah, company, so
for your your name rings a bell mate, But yeah,
I think you're out in the neck of mine words,
I think, all right, but yeah, okay, Well we've got

(52:48):
a fellow Bristolian. Yeah, someone from bemister so to speak, Yeah,
like proper Bester. Like you've got that thick accent, you know,
some times it slips out now and then people can
easily tell from my accent that sounds like blady pirraate
me and you probably sound night flipping pirates, you know. Uh, yeah,

(53:09):
been here a long time. Yeah, yeah, I've I grew
up in that sort of area. Well, I grew up
in I don't live there now, obviously, I live in
the grew up in Southville, Empster, that sort of sort
of area. And uh, do you know do you know
d Lane Park? Could you remember Delane Park? By any chance?
Comfy sofa, I've been interested to see.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
You do.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I'm not from talking. Ah, I thought your American Benjamin,
because do you know what when I was in I
had a haircut done yesterday and we're talking about like
we'll just talking about the nightties, my my hairdresser. I'm
going to blabble for a bit this much as we

(53:57):
do it, yes, and my hair dresser because he known
me for like, yeah, a skate park, that's it. Yeah,
a skate park, Delane Park. So I used to hang
around there like when I was a kid. And obviously
going through like this is like the nineties. And when
I was having my haircut yesterday, Terry was going, you

(54:20):
know what it was like back in the nineties because
my mom and dad, you know, not necessarily kick us out,
but we would playing in the street with our friends
who were the neighbors, and I clearly remember that. But
there was a timer in Dean Lane Park and it
was so nineties. It was like you had it doesn't

(54:42):
matter who you were, your black, white, Asian, we're all kids.
And I remember the style. It looked like flipping fresh
fresh prins of bell air, sort of look like nineties hairstyle,
and it was I remember, it was like so much fun.
And I just remember that time period. And I obviously Dealing

(55:03):
Park has changed a lot now. I think it's got
a little bit rougher, but it was such a nostalgic
thing even if you thinking about that skate park, because
if I went skating there, like roller blading and stuff
like that. I don't know what it's like now because
I don't live in that area. But yeah, I mean
times have changed, oh riginally from London. Oh god, I

(55:29):
hope you're out of there now because I've seen videos
on London as terrible. Mate. I did live in this
state for ten years ago. Mate, Ah right, ah, fair enough,
a fair enough. Yeah. I used to jump out of
through a bowl on my skate and touchboard stand up
of standproof. Yes, Oh my god, do you know what
I need to go down there because I used to
go down the swimming pool next next to Dealane Park

(55:51):
because just to have that bloody smell. Can never stand it.
But yeah, comfry, so far we are, well, we're technically neighbors.
We're technically neighbors. I'm not telling you I live now
because I got he probably found out my flipping surname.
It popped up on the bloody email thing and then
I go anyway, so yeah, as tech, we will get

(56:12):
back to as tech. I was just doing the basic
background and just trying to find at least some sort
of information, at least some evidence, and it just seems
to be stories. Yes, a lot of stories of yourpology
has come from books and obviously, trust me pros. But
I'm gonna stay open minded and see what happens, because,

(56:34):
like I said, this book it's a big fat, lengthy book,
and I think it's worth going through definitely, even if
it is fake and gay. As one would say, there
you go, let's go back to church. Yes, we are
with your neighbor's mate. Do you four twenty by any chance?

(56:58):
If so, you must pop round. I don't know when
you say that to people in chat, but yeah, you
see you've seem pleasant, you know, you don't seem to
be as a few people. No neighbor who is, but
no com sofa if you if you do like? One
thing I love to do again is more ghost hunting.

(57:21):
There is one place near you that I have been
going for years that I have caught a pretty good apparition.
Might have been there somewhere. But yeah, in due course,
make due course. But yes we are officially neighbors. Look
at that company sofa. You're right, London is frightening now,
fucking how Benjamin frightening is I'll get the hell out,

(57:43):
do you know what? Living in Bristol, we get a
lot of people from London. In fact, one of my
best mates who lived in around the corner for me
from my parents' place in South Phille. Pretty much everyone
in that street I think it was called Grevell Street
in Bemister is just all Londoners, literally, all Londoners. In fact, Bemaster,

(58:08):
that sort of area, that little strip is all from London,
all Londoners coming in. It's it's crazy. And to be
honest with you, I don't blame them, you know what
I mean? Hm hmm. People in America have no idea
what we're talking about. We're talking about territories here. Yeah yeah, yeah,

(58:32):
that's fine mate, let's go out to UFOs. Yeah yeah,
that's cool. Yeah. I had a BMX as well. Uh
that's what I did, Rebecca when I was a kids,
just went out and I took my bike everywhere. Uh yeah,
it was such a no stalgic time. That's where every
time I ride my bike it kind of like feels
nostalgic for like a kid again. You know, I never

(58:54):
wear a helmet. People say to me, why don't you
wear a helmet. It's every time every time I see
a bike, a cyclist or anything like that, I'm just like, look,
I'm not going a thousand miles an hour, you know,
I'm not going absolutely absolutely ridiculous speed. Just want to
go for a bike ride? You no, chill, relaxed for
twenty you know, just take it easy, enjoy the site.
You know. Mm oh Benjamin, you got to how can

(59:21):
you not? Yes? One true Saxon. I just yeah, I
don't like to drink, but I don't surprise I wouldn't
be surprised if people do, especially in this day and age,
especially in England. It's yeah, this one thing that's getty
gets me down, mate, and so I can hear me slurping.

(59:45):
I do apologize when I was on Hidden Show, Remember
I was a bit eggy and all that. I'm not
making excuses, but it is. It just sort of comes
to a point now where everything like gets a bit
too much. Now I like to go down deep dives
and conspiracies. I like that, especially with the Trows. Now
we're over an hour and now Kem Chroules. Don't if

(01:00:06):
I see it really really bad, I don't get affected
by it, you know, I find it more interesting more
in investigation for me. I quite like it related to
police of you. I know, people get upset about that,
you know, because their son's been blocked out, which is understandable.
It's totally understandable. But it's like the hardcore conspiracies, you know,
the pizza and and that. You know, there's things I
mean that some of them is just go It gets

(01:00:27):
so dark and when you're consuming that on a daily basis,
I thing eventually it just crept up. And the fact
that the way England has gone at the moment, I've
kind of just like lost hope and when I look
at eupology when I have that when Matt was on
from Trestial Materials, when I had a conversation with him
and going, well, uphology like current day just it's been

(01:00:50):
overtaken by the intelligence agency and I don't think we're
going to get any sort of truth. I really don't
think so that that hope aspect has gone RFK Junior
who said he was going to stop the chem trailing
and then he admitted that they're most likely just jet
engine smoke, and it's like, it's like the hope aspect

(01:01:12):
is it started to take a toll, and it puts
me in a really shitty mood. And sometimes it's a show.
It does show like I don't mean it. I think
a lot of people are kind of on edge at
the moment. So I was sort of taken time back
into focus on what's important. For instance, I mean, I
enjoy doing research into UFOs, you know, and I think

(01:01:35):
buying this book and I haven't bought a book in
a while sort of got me back into the mood again.
Says no, let's just let's do research, you know, just
to go back into what you love, because you know,
euthology is kind of feels nostalgic for me because I've
always been into UFOs and aliens since I was a kid.
I mean, that's one thing that I can remember, Like
me and my dad used to watch every single documentary,

(01:01:55):
every single program on UFOs and aliens, even like the paranormal.
So that was always in my family psyche since I
was a kid. So buying these books kind of feels
like the stargic, like let's get into the knitting gritty,
and that's sort of take my mind off the crap
in the world. And when I was having a conversation
with my hairdresser, I was like, Terry is like, I says,
how do you cope with it? He says, look, we

(01:02:16):
know what's going on. You just have to ignore it.
But I said, yeah, but you're ignoring a problem. He says, yeah,
but you're not going to have what you're gonna supposed
to do about it? What are you going to do
about it? Do you know what I mean? So it's
just do you I know it sounds about arrogant and
a bit one sided, but in one way, you really
got to take a step back, and that's what I'm
doing at the moment, and after me, it has been

(01:02:38):
helping a bit. I'm going really personal at the moment.
I don't know, but some of you in chat could
probably a side with me on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
It's it's a really unpredictable time and my sinus has
a plane up again. Can you're not hear it? It's terrible.
That's what's really pissed me off. My sinuses as well.
It's got so bad this year. It's it's yeah, yeah,
my self conscious its terrible. But yeah, I think a
lot of people are feeling the same. It's like, shit,
where the hell do we go from here? Whereas the

(01:03:07):
hope sort of side and I don't want to go
into politics. I don't want to turn alien alyctins that
you know, but yeah, I mean, for instance, Sundays like today,
clear blue sky, I show what's like today that, Yeah,

(01:03:30):
I thought this was nice. I thought this was quite
pleasant to see. I know these days don't last long,
but it was a clear blue sky and it's been
like that for this whole Week's been absolutely amazing, and
I just I'll pop out to the golf course and
I grab myself a latte or mocker, and like four twenty,

(01:03:52):
I'll just look at the blue sky and just really
take a step back. And and there are days like
the chemp trailing is is getting it's quite rampant. In fact,
I tell you what, what was really good? You know,
I talk about camp trails. All right, come on on,

(01:04:12):
here we go. There you're going, my cat, my right,
it's bringing us up. Dane wing Wingington never heard of
Dane Wingington from jew Engineer and Watch.

Speaker 14 (01:04:28):
Said is that Jay and the Ason because he had
already let's bring us up.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
One was saying, oh, you keep banging on about chemp
trails and stuff like that. I flip it. I love
the I love the conspiracy, absolutely love it. You know,
Like I said, I don't get affected by it, but
I would seriously wrack and then I'll put this in chat. Actually,
Jay Anderson interviewed Dan Ringington from geoengineering watch dot com

(01:05:08):
and it's got a documentary called The Demon and that's
got over twenty two million views on that and I would,
I would have to admit, even me looking through my
books on old cloud cloud formations and you can see
the trails. Dane in this video made a really good point,
especially when it comes to the aircraft and what's actually

(01:05:30):
been used. And one aspect that well, one question I
should say that I was talking about on the last
live stream that the fact that how do they just
how did they separate the contamination of the feord to
actually turn't on the spray on and off the day
when it was really heavy with kem trailing. I did

(01:05:51):
notice that these planes did not show up on a
flight tracker, and these were more or less I wouldn't
say commercial, but even though it's was loaded the skies
with all these trails. So I'm really going like back
onto a deep analysis of this, but this was immensely fascinating.
This right here the engine evidence nobody wants to talk about.

(01:06:13):
And this is on Project Unity, and I listened all
the way through it, and it is it's quite damned evidence.
And there is plenty of evidence to suggest there is
very small nanoparticles like nanoparticles. Do you know how small
it is? You can get ten thousand nanoparticles in like
the length of the hair, like one hair molecule like

(01:06:33):
one hair length. Sorry, it's crazy, isn't it. It's just
and that's been floating about everywhere at the moment in
where I live, we've got a lot of like, look
what it's called honey fungus and a lot of fun.
Guy that's been affecting trees and it's it's been quite

(01:06:54):
rampant actually, and I'm not saying that could be done
with with the with the chem trailing, but I'd love
to have the trees tested, even like the water supplies.
So there is definitely something going on for sure. But yeah,
I go chat that out, guys, Yeah, go chat it out.
I just put it in link ay Mark. How's you go? Man?

(01:07:17):
I live in Cornmolly and it started to change here too. Yeah.
I don't know how long this beautiful weather is going
to last for I really don't know, but I would
say a lot more people are looking up, that's for sure.
A science evidence fringe as it goes, Man as a God,

(01:07:37):
You've you've missed the unboxing video of my book if you.
I've just boxed this big, lengthy video video of this
book on the Aztec crash. So yeah, it's uh, it's
gonna be a good video to uh to do. I
might do a couple of parts in it, might do

(01:07:59):
one on Hidden under Bullies channel as well. So let's
get that guy off and let's bring my notes up.
But yeah, how's it going? Evident signs evidence fringe. I
hope you're doing well, buddy. Right, I'll tell you what.
Let's bring us up. Okay, people in chat, I'm going

(01:08:21):
to show you this, and I want you to tell me,
like the first thing that pops in your head. Okay,
it's a squiggly line, but you got it's like paradolia. Okay,
ready that what do you think that looks like? I

(01:08:42):
know what it looks like.

Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
I'm gonna put a chat faking get.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I'll give you an extra thirty thirty seconds. Women's face
outline okay, yeah, I can see that. Yeah, definitely women's face. Okay,
side profile all right, okay, give you a few more seconds. No,

(01:09:24):
rotary is not penis, I would say, right, it's my cursor.
It looks like silhouette of a woman's face as well.

(01:09:45):
I would say it's actually two women, or I say
it's two women, but it let's say two people kissing. Right,
there's the nose hold on. Just imagine two people kissing.
Does that make does that make like factor? Yeah? I
do you see what I mean? I saw that so

(01:10:07):
basically like that's the nose and that's the chin from
the other person. Do you see what I mean? Damn right,
John Ah, Now that I look at it, just looks

(01:10:29):
it does look like a pubic hair, doesn't it. God,
damn it. I thought it was more or less like yeah, cup,
you so forgot this one a silhouette of a face. Yes,
I thought it's basically two people because then this is Yeah,
anyway when you look at them close up, because I

(01:10:50):
was looking at up on my on my phone, it
looks different when it's actually on the computer. But anyway, yeah,
is it? Ye Oh? All right? What else we've got?
What else we've got? Cloud find right? Anyway? Get enough

(01:11:14):
of that, So let's go back into my notes and
find out. But yeah, we'll get back to Aztech. Like
I said, guys, I'm going to read for the book
and then reduce the information I'll bring forward. Actually, tell
you what, Let's go through archive. I'm gonna put this in.
I'm gonna bring this up mmmm mmmmmm mmmmmm Right. Archive,

(01:11:46):
it's pretty good. I have to admit, we've got the
way back machine. Now. If you want to find old documentaries,
books and stuff like that, Archive Internet archive is the
place to be. But I think you've got to pay
for a subscription now. But I'm going to see if
they have this book in its entirety in here. No

(01:12:17):
it doesn't. We've got a mow f one report, news
clippings and four. That's no good, isn't it? No it doesn't. Okay,
Majestic twelve, Yeah, I do you know what? Guys, Majestic twelve?
Do you think the documents are real? Are you ingredients
with Stanton Freeman on this one? I did do a

(01:12:37):
show with hid and under Belly. I don't think it
really take it seriously to be honest with you. I
think before twenty two hard on that one. But yeah,
it's where the documents come from. I believe it was
found on a train. But the MJ twelve documents, guys,
what do you reckon? Real or fake? And gay?

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I don't know, And I wanted to be honest with you.
I like to believe in standard Freeman, but to be
honest with you. As I was looking through, I was like,
but no, we can see you know, the Aztec Crash
book is not on Internet archive, so that can bug
it off and bring up my notes and what We
can move on to Twitter? Where is Twitter? Two seconds goes,

(01:13:42):
I'll catch up with shat on. It's bring up Twitter
bookmarks right, Oh they are Rotary there you go, I figure, right, right,
let's go through. Let's go through. I've got a few bookmarks.
So rotory you you've tagged me in a few things

(01:14:03):
on Twitter. Okay, So this guy I keep going it
swhere I know is ex right Robert Spear. Okay, I
have been watching his videos for a very long time.
I'm going to be honest. His believes on the Nazi

(01:14:23):
flying sources, especially Maria Orsick. I think it is a
bit too far fetched because we not really based anything
on evidence. Because Maria or Sick, even like the Royal
Society which he talks about in this video here talks

(01:14:44):
about Maria or Sick, has been like a real medium. However,
there's one secret society that I need to bring up.
It's called the Oto har I don't make sure German
nopeto society. And this is a society that I haven't

(01:15:12):
really brought up. It's called the I pronounced this. This
was a organized a cult, secret society that was based
in Germany. And this is called the Ordo Tempe Orientis
Orientis or something like that. So the accorded the OTO. Okay,

(01:15:35):
so this was basically psychic mediums coming together. This was
formed in eighteen ninety five, so this was like the
early beginnings, even like before the Roal Society and stuff
like that, even if it did exist. So there was
an occult aspect even with using mediums and psychics and
spirituality that was in this society. In fact, let's just

(01:15:58):
bring it up the OTO just to show you what
this is. Is a real society here it is here, okay,
ordo temporally ordientis I believe. So yeah, this is a
real occult society, like I said it was before. Yeah,
founded in eighteen ninety five, so it has a sort
of I guess real society Maria or sick that sort

(01:16:24):
of occult philosophy brought in, which is a real society.
But the real society, I don't know. I don't know
a moody. How's it going, man? How's it going? So
you can always as pop back and listen to me,
I'm ir rants and everything like that. But you just

(01:16:45):
missed I mentioned twice. Now me opened up this book.
I just unboxed it live on stream. It's the as
tech UFO book, most rare book in upology, most expensive one.
But but yeah, go rewind after I finished. But nice
to see you, man, it's nice to see you. I
hope you are doing well, especially you moody. H So

(01:17:08):
am I good with this? Yeah? So yeah, real society
mediums and psychics in Germany before for real society. So
they've gone for that. Let's bring up Twitter again. So yeah,
anything to do with Robert Spear. Interesting guy. He's definitely
done his research. But I also have been watching debug

(01:17:32):
videos on him, which is still quite interesting because I
do look at both sides, I really do, and a
lot of the stuff he does, says Rotary. Yes, there
is a lightly quid book. Yes it came through the post. Yes,

(01:17:53):
I came through the postests today it just unboxed it.
So but yeah, Rotary, I was gonna say, mate, that's
my train of thought. So just move on with that one.
So yeah, go chat that if you wanted to. Robert
Speer is on here. Yeah this, okay, here's another one

(01:18:17):
right now? This okay, No I talk about the trails.
There are so many different pictures of this. It's the
same outline. That's sorry, it's the same operation system right here,
but some of the switches are different, but the outline
is still the same. Now, obviously this is all AI generated.

(01:18:39):
But the problem that I have, yes, I do believe
that's a real thing, that is real, obviously because we've
got bloody real picture of it, is this Okay, team
hashtag team keem trail. Look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Like I mentioned, these pilots are taking the pick. Yes,

(01:19:01):
and I'm going to show you a video in a minute.
You will get this is a more or less I
would call this a Operation Mockingbird style operation. It's almost
like a SI up. Okay, you get these pilots that
come forward and is they put out videos like this
And unfortunately, I'm not saying that this is real, but

(01:19:22):
for the people that do believe that this is real,
this gets regurgitated a lot on chemtrol social media sites
as actually been real. I don't think it is. I
think it's pilots literally taking the piss are the one
they have paid shills, and my god, does that would
get regurgitated a lot. Not saying that is the truth,
but I think look, come on, look at that badge

(01:19:43):
on and off switch I think they can do a
bit better than that. Do you know what I mean?
Guys any music? Yes, there are patterns. Yes, I would
agree with that injections for the uh thinging a jig.

(01:20:06):
So I'm not denying. I'm not denying, But I do
believe there is an aspect of pilots or some sort
of organization hashtags the intelligence agency. Like I said, it's
almost like a mocking operation. Mockingbird's style is to push

(01:20:26):
disinformation out there, to push people in a different direction.
So that's just my thought on that one. Hidden showed
this on his show yesterday. Check this out. Oh that's
actually producing a smoke ring. It's pulsating for sure. Man,

(01:20:50):
I got dry mouth.

Speaker 16 (01:20:52):
Oh yeah mate, Yeah I needed a change up. Yeah,
it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
It's just it cost me like bloody twenty quid. It's
pretty good. It's an alien with a DJ set, And
there was another one with dude. Seriously, there was another
one with like planets and everything like that, and it
really looked quite gay. My bussiness has said, don't buy that.
It looks really really camped. I'm like that, I understand.

(01:21:24):
So we stuck with the alien instead. Hey wild oh
my God, my reading is terrible. I'm gonna call you Wild,
thanks for being here. Where did Olie go? He is
no longer with us. Unfortunately he got his head locked
off by golf ball. I'm joke. He's buggled off to
another podcast. He's he decided that Alien Addicts is in

(01:21:48):
terms of like the topics we're going in more in
the conspiracy realms. So they've gone to and I should
plug them more, and they should plug this show more.
And that's the Daily Conspiracy Podcast. So you could go
check them out Wild on Spotify. Daily Conspiracy Podcast go
very much every day talking about conspiracies if that's in

(01:22:08):
your sort of thing, really, but yeah, that's where he's gone.
I'm sure he's talking about like chicken nipples and stuff
like that. Yeah, I'm not joking. Gives that fire. Jaman
moves a man? How's a girl?

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Nice to see you. How's a gun? And have you
four twenty if you're four twenty year of US or
Operation Sea Spray? Yes, I'll tell you what. Let's put
some some pause. But that's interesting, isn't it. It's obviously
I wouldn't saying the drone, but it's got that pulsation
going through the clouds. That's interesting, liking that foodge Yeah,
I operate the Sea Spray in San Francisco. That was

(01:22:44):
a spread of bacteria from chips and the wind carried
it all for the city. What was interesting about that,
Sorry evidence Fringe is you are right on that. But
during the toxic fog, could you remember the toxic fog
that happened with Operation Sea Spray. What they did, because
there was like several operations to do. What they did

(01:23:06):
was basically spray bacteria onto the public just to see
what basically what happened in the public facing a biological
attack a Nathan from The Quantum Show as a going man,
welcome morning brother. So but what was interesting is that
they sprayed the bacteria which was from ships. But they
did it during the fog when it's foggy. And if

(01:23:28):
you look at San Francisco, you will get that fog
that persists over the bridge. You know, that sort of
iconic shop we see of San Francisco. It always has
that that fog myst that comes into the city. They
did that when it was foggy, and they found out
that the bacteria will actually be more persistent because with
the fog. It's basically it's like tiny water droplets, isn't it.
You know, it's like a massive sheet which, if we

(01:23:50):
want to be technical, you will call that. You call
that stratus. That's a stratus cloud. That is like high
altitude cloud. But it's basically on the ground, like it's
very fine misted basically, And they found out that a
bacteria would actually be more persistent in there. And now
a lot of people were getting sick like I did.
I'm not saying it was to do with the toxic fog,
but it was. It's either a hysteria, social media going

(01:24:13):
out of hands, people making wild spread of information. I mean,
look how information goes these days. You know, it spreads
like wildfire about anything really. But I can remember the
toxic fog was quite hyped up around about is it
like December or something like that. But I got ill
and I did a video on it. I got ill,
I got ill man. But yeah, Operation se Spray was

(01:24:36):
a real operation back in nineteen fifties, yeah, which was
spraying bacteria. Also the there's another one as well, called
the Denbighshire Biological Weapon Experiment. Is it then?

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Is the door Set Biological weapons moment, although is it. Yeah,
there we go, ex bring us up just to show you.
When people say, oh no, the government won't do that,
I'm like, oh, bitch, please please. So this is the
Dorset Biological Weapon Warfare Experiments. So this was an experiment,

(01:25:13):
a series of experiments conducted as a Wikipedia page, conducted
between nineteen fifty three and nineteen seventy five to determine
the extent of which a single ship or aircraft could
dispose biological warfare agents over the United Kingdom. The tests
were conducted by scientists from Porto port and down. Oh

(01:25:36):
that's a blood that they did a lot of biological
experiments in that area. It's actually closed off to the public.
I believe using zinc cadassium sulfide. Early results blah blah
blah blah blah blah. But yeah you can show you.
You can see it here my readings bloody terrible. Yeah,

(01:25:59):
go figure, I'm not ashamed to omit it. Yes, so
they did do these experiments and these were called the
Dice trials. Okay, they even put oh lovely as lovely,
isn't it. Oh, thank you, so thank you so much.
Chucking a bit of anthrax in there. Why don't you, Yeah,

(01:26:20):
not joking. Along with anthrax, simulant and pethanal were sprayed
over door set and they say they won't do it now.
Oh please please, Oh I've got a load of operations here,
operations see spray. Uh yeah, so they do spray the public.

(01:26:44):
And to say that they don't, I know, people don't
like this word. It's kind of retarded, right, bring us up.
Oh my god. Okay, Joe, please please mate, look, just
stop copyrighting my videos. Okay, I support you, listen to
you every day to a certain degree. Let's just go

(01:27:05):
through a chat. What time I'll go back to chanle minute.
Let me just go through mid book marks for the moment.
So this absolute complete I like the word swapa for
I'm trying to be nice here. This guy here, who
Joe Rogan has interviewed. His names are Sakizaka or whatever

(01:27:30):
his name, but basically really goes to show how narrow minded, naive,
one sign died blind, echo chamber mindset. This guy is Okay.
When I get a chance to speak to bring Graham Hancock,
he's away at the moment. When I do speak to

(01:27:52):
him face to face, I like to get his opinion
on this. And I know they've been they've made up,
these two people, but just listen into the arrogance of this.

Speaker 17 (01:28:02):
I'm not opposed to the idea of aliens existing. There's
hundreds of billions of galaxies in the known universe, each
with hundreds of billions of stars. The idea that we're
uniquely alone. You don't think there's anything out there. Nothing,
So you don't believe in ancient civilizations capable of advanced construction,
don't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
I am a scientist. If you believe in something, write
an article then I can read.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
But don't give me a theory.

Speaker 17 (01:28:33):
But the planet's containing intelligent life is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Now, that's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
I have been debating Graham Hanka and John Anthonois, and
I told them from the beginning, your theory will go
with the winning right.

Speaker 17 (01:28:48):
But we're not talking about that theory. We're talking about
aliens being possible. No way, No aliens, just us.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
This is all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
If you believe in Verse, if you'll be even God,
you'll do miracles. The Egyptian, okay, believed in the afterlife,
and they made this great.

Speaker 17 (01:29:09):
I'm not saying aliens made it. I'm saying it's very
possible there's something else out there in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Thank you all right, thank you God, Jesus Christ. I mean,
you'd just like launch a trash can at the guy.
Do you know what I mean by the arrogance of
the guy, just the fact he blindly just will not
accept anything that is alternative, goes against his beliefs. I

(01:29:39):
would argue and say, look, why you go back to
the Samerians or go TEPLI Oh my god, I can't
say the any word. But if you go to like
the Aztecs and that sort of regions, even where Graham
Hancock is at the moment in Iraq, Babylon where the
first civilization began. Obviously we found other places now, but

(01:30:03):
look at the painter, Look at paintings. Look at the
the depictions they were putting on carved into stone, depicting
these entities, these beings. I mean not just for rack,
but if you look around the world, you see these
depictions or that looks it looks quite alien. And for
them A lot of mainstream historians would say, oh, no,

(01:30:26):
they're just depicting what they think of a god. But
it's like, look, they are showing flying machines, that look
quite similar to what we're what we would considered to
be a flying saucer or some sort of aviation technology.
And you will find this a recurrent thing around the
world in many different cultures. And for this twag wuffle

(01:30:51):
just to deny that aspect is mind boggling. And the
fact that, you know what, good. I'm glad Joe Rogan
got this guy because it's going to show people from
what he really is. I understand the evidence. I understand
the evidence is extremely important. But look at eufology. We
know something's there, guys, we know the government's covering up,

(01:31:12):
and we know we're going to get the truth about it,
but there's still something there. There's still something we're actually
holding on to. Yes, well, you know it's frustrating and everything,
but just for the arrogance this guy, You're like, no, no, oh,
show me the evidence. I'm a scientist. When someone says that,
oh god, he is a tosso, you're right, evidence for
energy is an absolute tosso arrogance really is. Yeah, you're right, Nathan, Yeah,

(01:31:39):
It's just ah, it just pisses me off, and it
makes me side with more with Graham Hancock. You know, yeah,
I understand we should believe in legends and myths, and
you know that all these cultures that bring up some
sort of alien life that he's basically seen in the flesh,

(01:32:03):
and we shouldn't deny that, we shouldn't do. But again,
this video is just a typical example of mainstream archaeology
narrow minded. I'm not going to talk about the Luela Zonda.
We all know that. Look, you all know the situation
with him. I haven't got any Jeremy called Bell whistleblower
stuff guys, honestly, because it's just that we know the

(01:32:26):
situation of them. You're not the truth on this. But yeah,
Richard Dotty blew the whistle. Let us play this.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
I was offered a job in twenty nineteen, but you know,
I just states Space Force. We're lou al Zander work
the work with him in disinformation, and I said not no,
but I'll no, I'll never do that again. Look for him,

(01:32:59):
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Well he's done a very good job of keeping out
Bloody's secret because everyone flipping knows what exactly what he's
up to. Disinfer agent too. I mean, I I don't
they were Facebook. There was this guy I used to
go to music college with he's into UFOs and speak

(01:33:23):
to him like flipping seventeen years and they he messaged me.
He goes, are you in the band or anything like that.
It's like nah, I sort of kind of giving that
up and sort of moved on with other stuff. He says,
what you do, so I'll run a UFO channel, but
they don't add it. He goes it, yeah, you check
out check out TTSA. I said, have you heard of

(01:33:45):
a person called Louilazondo? And I just put like a
laugh at MG, and I didn't reply back. I thought, like,
don't get me started. Like literally, I'm not exactly you know,
old to this sort of stuff or new to this stuff,
so to speaking. I just find it hilarious. But I again,
if you're new to the community, people are going to
see the loo side I do. I don't trust him
as far I can fucking throw him. I'm sorry. But

(01:34:07):
to be a government official or a UFO expert and
you bring out three yeah, I'm talking about three bloody
fake photographs of UFOs. And the first one was back
in TTSA. I was actually watching alien scientists Joreny Reid,
and he showed the picture of I think it was

(01:34:30):
a Maylar balloon, and this is when TTSA was going on.
This was like twenty eighteen, I believe, when lou joined
the Force, not the Force, that bloody you know, fake
organization that scammed money out of people. And it shows
a picture of like a light a Mylar balloon basically,
and then you had the Shandon Layer and you had
that photograph there. So yeah, oh guy, something BIG's happening,

(01:34:53):
Something big, BIG's going to happen. Listen.

Speaker 18 (01:34:55):
I have some visual evidence. I think we're going to
see some footage in the future for me and George
that we've obtained and are making sure it's safe to release.
That is shocking. It's different than a lot of what
you've seen before the Shapes, I mean your experience. Have
some visual evidence. I think we're going to see some
footage in the future for me and George that we've
obtained and are making sure it's safe to release.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
That is shocking.

Speaker 18 (01:35:19):
It's different than a lot lot of what you've seen
before the Shape Shapes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Well, first of all, like, how does this guy, Jeremy
Corbell get the security clearance to release this? Who is
he talking to. I need details, man. I it's like
they're holding on for like the perfect moment, and it
just seems to be like a very reoccurring thing. It's

(01:35:45):
like a trend. So news Nation will bring up something
UFO related. I don't know. They brought out UFO hunters,
which I need to catch upon. But at the same time,
these are just we need to ask the horrid questions.
Where is are these Where are these people? Are not

(01:36:07):
government officials or have the security clearance to find these
UFO or even obtain these UFO videos, let alone bloodies? Really,
since the public, who are they speaking to and certainly
not speaking to Flipping Arrow? Are they? You know? This

(01:36:27):
is what I mean. I wait for the perfect times
something's going to happen, you know. Like I said, they
bite their time, so they're holding onto the footage so
they've got something there. And to be honest with you, Jeremy,
no offense many but the footage you show is wank.
Footage is wank, And yes, I would say the jellyfish
UFO is wank. You know what. I'm sick and tired

(01:36:48):
of seeing guys, not these two idiots. Bear in mind,
I have to meet George Knapp has done his research
into UFOs and you can trace that back into the eighties.
Bar enough, that's I know, take my house off to him.
I forgot what's going with that? Am I going with that?

(01:37:09):
I don't know? Fucking lost my trainer thought. Just just
take him off the screen and then yeah, but time
will tell, guys. I do not think we're going to
get any decent footage. That is shocking. According to the
marketing director right here, Jerreman Corbell, Ah, yes, this is

(01:37:36):
nostalgic for me, algorithm, bite me. Do you know what
this is? Edge Media TV Sky channel two hundred.

Speaker 10 (01:37:47):
And So if you want which is what they what
they do want, a world government, a world central Bank,
a world Army and amalgamation of NATO and the UN
Peace Giving Operation, a world currency, electronic no cash, and
a micro chip population, then what you've got to do,
and this is the way they work a process I

(01:38:08):
called problem reaction solution. You've got to keep creating the problems,
get the people to react, do something in fear and
outrage all.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
What's happening, what they're going to do about it?

Speaker 10 (01:38:19):
And then they who've covertly created the problem, offer the
solutions to the problems they've created, which is the constant
centralization of power. That's what all the solutions are. We're
seeing such a wonderful example now with what's happening in
the financial industry, and if we don't wake up, we're
going to live in a global fascist dictatorship within five

(01:38:40):
to ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Well I forgot that last bit. Yeah you spot on again, mate,
Do you know what We'll get back to something that
you just mentioned there. But yeah, I did notice that
where read that you look quite nervous. Yeah, I noticed
his hands moved quite a bit on that one. Yeah,

(01:39:07):
I would agree with that, John, Yeah, I definitely got
a controller or he's got some at least some advisors.
One would say, Yeah, I kind of get out to Rebecca.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Yeah, faking kay, I love that to him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Yeah he did, he did nail it. Now listen to this.

Speaker 10 (01:39:35):
You've got to keep creating the problems. Then what you've
got to do. And this is the way they work
with no cash and a microchip population.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Right, microchip population? Will the people buy it? Now? This
microchip population has been going on for a long period
of time. We know it happens because I do believe
in some areas in Europe actually has see Michael chip
implant into their arm. That's fine, No, it's not fine.

(01:40:04):
You know if if you want to do that, that's
but that rather be human and not a robot so
to speak. You don't know what these chips are doing
half the time, I think personally, as the idea of
microchip in people is such a really old concept. I
think the technology is moved on since then. I you

(01:40:30):
could say the same for in terms of technology, I
think nanoparticles and especially what was put in a specific
vaccine like Graphight, is one of them, and they've been
finding those in the trails as well. That is a conductor.

(01:40:56):
It's basically a conductor. It's almost a conductive receiver. And
if you're inhaling that and it's steeping into your positive
your skin, I think I think that's the word for it.
Like nanobots, I think that is a new way of
actually tracking a person through their blood. By This is

(01:41:17):
why I I the phrase of blocking out the sun
to combat climate change, that aspect is probably a bit
too far fetched. I think there's another purpose for it.
Not saying that they not blocking out the sun, but
I think they're probably using that as an excuse, because
these nanobots, these particles, if you do it on a

(01:41:40):
mass scale, you really are creating. I mean you can
basically track anything, isn't it. It's creating like a massive
excuse me, like a mass five G network in one aspect,
you can track everything. And I think a lot of
these five G cities, especially like the fifteen minute cities,
when they will make it all five G, everything would

(01:42:00):
be connected altogether. And there was a fantastic video stating
that they can actually track trees and how they grow.
I feel another word for it smart just or something
like that. But yeah, the idea of these market chips,
I think the technology has changed. Now bear in mind
this is two thousand and eight. Oh, two thousand and eight.

(01:42:24):
I would rather go back to that type be in
now where YouTube was full of conspiracy for the videos,
it was a time, a golden, golden year of of
conspiracy research.

Speaker 19 (01:42:39):
The man didn't e nail it on the ad global
fascist dictatorship and if we don't wake up, we're going
to live in a global fascist dictatorship within five to
ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Boom boom. And that you cannot find that video anywhere.
You can that they don't need. Everyone has smartphones. Yeah,
this is it. We all have smartphones, always listen to us,
probably even read your mind and all that. Yes, I'm
going up as far as that. The thing is, it's

(01:43:14):
not really primarily stuck to your body, isn't it. You
want something that's internally h Do you know what I'll
be interested to bring up the video. I'll put that
on my notes. Actually the five G network and what
it can actually do. It was an interesting video. I
doubt if it was actually online now and I probably

(01:43:36):
took it off, but it shows you what a smart city.
That's it. It was a smart city what it actually does,
and it's flipping terrifying. But this is what I mean
by the technology. I think it's moved on by then.
Personally myself. They've been testing on monkeys with these micro chips.
Must is Yeah, are these chips now? I don't know.

(01:43:58):
They'd probably be like something like of thin, isn't it
because you think, like what Moody says, the r F
I D chip. Those were like pillside tablets used to
insert it. Like I said, I reckon thet The generation
is probably changed by then, and the day that it's
still the second fitterish. Oh yeah, yeah, that ring is

(01:44:20):
a bell actually, Rory, It's been a while since I've
seen that. Yeah, that does ring a bell actually. But
I think nanobots is it's especially in certain medical intervention.
I can't mention it, but you know the thing that
I did not take wooh, it was all in that
and you can see for the microscope what these nanoparticles,

(01:44:41):
these nanobots are doing. It's it's scary social credit as well. Yes,
that's more of a China thing, isn't it. I hope
it doesn't come in too here the way things are going,
you know, especially it's bloody government when it's conspiracies were
to the known fact. Yeah, you could say we're living

(01:45:04):
in the day of the conspiracy theorist. You could say that,
to be honest with you, especially, I think everything that
started to change after COVID. COVID was like the new
what can I say why? It is like twenty twelve,

(01:45:25):
It was like a new change. I think the powers
that be that push the COVID nonsense really did fail
at the end. I think a lot It woken a
lot of people up. I have to admit that. But yeah,
I think more people are now looking into conspiracy. Gener

(01:45:46):
I've talked about conspiracy is a lot to a lot
of people, actually, you know, not bombarding it, but more
people are susceptible to it because I think people just
don't believe in mastream media anymore. They don't. Everyone carries
their phone everywhere though.

Speaker 12 (01:45:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
This, I'm guilty. I'm absolutely guilty of that. We're all
guilty of that. You know. Imagine, I know twenty years time,
you know this brick phone who was not as a
brick phone, but you know these phones were probably changing
to a different style, might be like transparent. They'll get

(01:46:20):
thinner and you know something, it probably turn into something holographic, John,
do you know what I mean? Like something crazy? Check
the channel? Yes theory who visited the Billionaire's Island. Teams
are working on marketship implants. Oh okay, shout it out,
shout it out in their brain apparently, Oh it's in the brain,

(01:46:43):
bloody hour. That's that's the neuro link, isn't it. I
think I'd rather stay human, to be honest with Robber Bucker.
Have a look, we're in ninety percent water with electrical
system that can be manipulated. I think walking at at him. Oh, mate,

(01:47:06):
it's problem with four twenty and or just I just
need to learn how to read properly, you know what
I mean? But yeah, I mean look at the planet.
The planet is pretty much well eighty five percent water,
and we're ninety percent water called a suit Corbell's cat
with electrical charge. Yeah, we're basically like antennas, aren't we
We're pretty much like antenda. It's as weird as like

(01:47:28):
me and missus get this sort of like she messaged me,
even like my mom does. Like if something isn't right,
you know, I mean, you could sort of pick it up.
Strange strange how people work like an aerial Yes, beacon?
Pretty much mate? We are energy. Yes, because when I

(01:47:48):
trip on Mario mushrooms, hug a tree, you can communicate
with it. I do believe trees can communicate each other. Man,
I sound like a right hippie, don't I. Where's hit
headn Where are you? Brother? I need you in this conversation.
But yeah, I do believe that battery and their computer. Yeah,

(01:48:09):
who did a really good quote? I think I might
have been. David Ike actually mentioned about basically we are
a computer, and he was saying that the Internet is
basically our subconscious. It was amazing. It was really really
well put. I was trying and find that Jason Sands, yeah, okay,
we all know about him, but he did put this

(01:48:35):
amazing song by I can't remember, is it Stephen something?
But they was at the bookmark I wanted to do this.
Which was the journalist that once they broke the story
of the Oh god, what was there? What's the first
UFO crash in nineteen thirty six? It was, Oh my god,

(01:48:59):
Mussolini the specific name of it. There was a UFO
that was brought over that allegedly crashed, was obtained and
it was brought over from Italy into America in the
nineteen thirties and this guy here broke the story and
whether or not it says allegedly the very first photos
of an alien inside of a UFO was taken by

(01:49:21):
an Italian journalist. But Raberto Pinnatti true false, guys, alien
yea nay all faking gay? Italy was yeah, Italy, excuse me.
I do apologize, guys. Yeah, I could do that, but

(01:49:43):
there's not a lot of information. There's a few like
bits and pieces of scraps of notes, and I think
a couple of documents related to the Italy case, but
I'm not too sure. I'll put on my notes and
I can bring up on a later later on the
showm I think we're all ingredients. Hi pop up one

(01:50:04):
through Saxon that is most in fact faking gay. So
we move on from that. Jay Anderson, you're talking about
whether modification right. Okay, Operation mocking Bird is going very
well and strong into thin air and also concerned citizen
now concerned citizen. I'm very skeptical of any information he

(01:50:24):
comes out, especially about flipping trails in the sky, because,
like I said, chempt trails are real, but I think
a vast majority of people are misidentifying clouds normal natural clouds.
Have actually just said, but yeah, this was a warning

(01:50:45):
to the public on CNN of I Thig Oceans, Pacific
Oceans Dickhead known volcanoes will blow its top event on

(01:51:07):
the coming months, causing one thousand earthquakes in one day. Okay,
so seeing none obviously, no, I'm bloody trust done. Why
would they put that? Always think, guys, why why would
someone had to type that in? Okay? Why would they

(01:51:29):
do that? I would say, and I think people might
agree with me on this. Yes, I know Grush talks
about it, but I'm a bit skeptical about anything, Crush
says John to be honest with you, but I'll look
into it, mate, I definitely look into it. You gotta think,
why why do they put this right here? Fear mongering? Okay?
Oh aw Woodward, how's it going, man, how's it going?

(01:51:51):
Nice to see you man. I hope I'm a good day,
A good day, and welcome on in. So you always
think why why they got to put this here? They
had to type it in to get a reaction, isn't it.
It's all about getting a reaction, and they got some
sort of reaction from someone is actually take notice of it.
Operation mocking Bird. I think for people need to understand

(01:52:13):
is that this was a multi layer corporation. I'm talking
about the intelligence agency really expanding out into many facilities
over Europe, in fact, all over the world that had
agents working for different companies. Would I mean we're talking
about mainstream media here basically putting out false information, fear

(01:52:35):
mongering and scare tactics about the Cuban War which was
at that time, which was the hype at the time.
The Cuban missile crisis, and the idea was to really
get the Americans into war with Cuba. Obviously, thank god
that didn't happen. But Operation mocking Bird was basically the
CIA and the FBI and multi facets of intelligence agencies

(01:52:59):
around the world which all worked for the news agencies
would put out information that the Cubans were doing terrorist
attacks and they were killing civilians and stuff like that,
you know, putting out false information. And I would say
that this is more or less like the same tactic.
Then it's almost like fear mongering once again. Okay, someone

(01:53:22):
had to type this up, and someone put this out
on purpose to get reaction, and it's just to scare people.
I might be wrong on this one. I might be wrong.
And underwater volcano in the Pacific Northwest is expected to
erupt some time this year for the first time in
eleven years. It could stir up a lot of activity
for marine life in the area. The volcano le Seamount

(01:53:53):
lies about lies about a mile below the ocean surface,
about three hundred miles off the coast of Astore, Oregon. Plenty. Okay, well,
if it did blew its top off and he created earthquakes,
then yeah, you most likely looking at tsunami. Time will tell,

(01:54:17):
but it did say what a thousand earthquakes? Hold on,
let's go back. It's open known volcanoes will blow its
vent in a coming in the coming months, causing a
thousand earthquakes in one day. Sorry, ten thousand, ten thousand

(01:54:37):
earthquakes in one day. Okay, do you know what I mean?
Walking bird media, Yeah, pretty much what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
There we go, ass store, ass tour, ask tour. Riah asked,
Rea fucking so stupid. Honestly, I was a typo, was okay?
All right? Fire, my reading isn't the typo? Flipping hell,

(01:55:16):
there's there's a there's a guy I want to get
on the show called Joseph P. Farrell who deal with
the Bell project, and now he's an Oxford professor. And
I thought, God, if I have to flip and read,
or if he watches the video of me reading, guarantee
ain't going to come onto the ship. Jesus Christ. Oh yes,
polar Shift. Who's the other guy? I'm forgetting all these

(01:55:40):
names today? She pop up? Who's the guy's name?

Speaker 9 (01:55:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Who?

Speaker 5 (01:55:46):
Does?

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Fucking hell, I can't remember his name? Does all the
polar shifts and the pole shifts and stuff like that. Yeah,
he's great. I've got a couple of his books here,
Nancy Brotherhood of the Bell, and there's another one as well.
But there's also with the Bell Projects, which will be
like a later on with the German Nancy Flying Source
of stuff, like probably like part eight. Excuse me. So

(01:56:11):
I'd love to get up on the show for an interview,
but the fact is, I hope he doesn't watch because
both fucking oh reader is terrible. Yes, I do believe
that earthquake song Man made as well, Yeah for sure.
All right, so that's enough of that, enough for that.
But I just foughwas a bit odd. Why would they
put that up there?

Speaker 9 (01:56:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Yeah, you don't be shut app right, ask the hard questions.
Not denying I am not denying cam trolls, I'm not,
but just ask yourself this, okay, Why would they spray

(01:56:55):
to block out the sun when you've got this huge
amount what I would call a cumulus cloud, which is
a very low base level cloud or you could say
a or zero cumulus or something like that. You know
that around the base line of that atmosphere. So that
alone has really blocked out the sun, which you can

(01:57:17):
see the sun now, So these trails really ain't going
to do anything. Do you see what I mean? Look
how widespread that blanket of white. I mean, the people
on the ground is not going to see the sun
and they're not going to see those trails. So why
they spray in? Do you know what I mean? I'm
just asking questions, just asking questions, you know. It's just
like things like that you need to ask. I thought

(01:57:38):
it was to block out the sun. Well, fat amouse
of stratus cloud down, mate, you know what I mean?
Or cumulus that's actually blocking out the sun more than
these bloody trails are. Do you know what I mean.
I'm just saying, just saying, not not denying it, but
I just I like to ask, well questions. You know,
right anover.

Speaker 12 (01:57:57):
Acura government wanted to speak to you about COEM trails.
They're not just the conspiracy theory. Governments across the world
have freely admitted they're doing weather engineering. Sure, it's been
a beautiful clear day, and then.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
You have these kind of unnatural looking strive your clouds
across the sky where they dissipate and create this kind
of gray fuck that's not normal.

Speaker 13 (01:58:24):
That's not what.

Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
Natural clouds look like. Okay, mister weather man, So could
you tell me how a cloud is formed? Please? Could
you tell me how? What what's what's the what's the
basic science of how a clouds formed? Could you tell
me that? Because you put your camera up in the
sky and you're narrating, you know what these what clouds
are unnatural clouds?

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
And do you know what I mean? These people have
no concept of meteorology. But yeah, they're telling me how
weather works where they dissipate and create this kind of gray. Fuck.

Speaker 17 (01:58:57):
That's not normal.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
That's not what natural cloud They are changing the weather
blocking out the sun by doing this, Okay, right, first
things first, blocking out the sun and dimming of the
sun of two different things. Blocking out the sun is
basically if we're going by the concept of what they've
been doing since October in England, and I've got time
Mats videos and time Mats videos every single day of

(01:59:20):
this completely white blanket and it's something to do with
tem trailing, like this thick white depression that has blocked
out the sun for not joking months and it's only
until April since we actually seen the sun. Now, I
would argue, no offense the.

Speaker 6 (01:59:37):
Dissipate into these larger clouds.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
That's what it's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
That's obviously terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Decisions for us.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Why you filming yourself? Okay, right, first things first, right,
the look, just this is what I do with my
chemtrail videos. I bring out. I really analyze the sky. Now, look,
these trails are not going to block out with dimm
the sun. Look at it. Look okay, he's put a
photograph on here that does that middle photograph looks nothing

(02:00:10):
like what he's showing. Okay, that trail is not going
to dim the sun. Mate, that why hayes there. It's
not going to block out the sun. Okay, just saying. Look,
I'm just saying, you know, the trails when it's going
horizons horizon, it's extremely extremely bad. And yes, I've seen

(02:00:33):
cases where I just block out the sun, but this
doesn't you know, I mean, if it's going to block
out the yeah, okay, but while you shirtless, if it's
blocking out the sun, why you why are you shirtless?

(02:00:55):
Do you know what I mean? Just asking questions? Okay,
So clearly this is this is what we need some ration. Yeah, right,
this is what I have to deal with. Camp trails
are real. We know that they've didn't doing it, but

(02:01:18):
more people they feel like the guy shows you the
last video on the guy in the train when he's
holding a sign and he's talking about due engineering, people
looking at him like flipping like what the hell is
this guy talking about? Basically laughing. You know, there is
a time and a place And I was like that
years ago when I first got into the camp trailing community.

(02:01:40):
You know, this is this is like there's nothing new,
but people are misconcepting and what they're actually seeing in
the sky. Look, look, not every single trail in the
sky is whether mode modification. I've seen small little trails
and I've got tons of time lights videos of it,
and they do SOD or they dissipate within twenty minutes.

(02:02:02):
And in that like, for instance, that trail there, and
I guarantee that little trail there, see that trail there
that will dissipate within like flipping twenty minutes. I've seen
it so many times. I'm not saying that might be
the case in this area because you see this white haze.
But this white haze what he's showing right here, it
is not going to dim the sun. The guy's fucking shirtless.

(02:02:25):
I can see the sun. People are wearing sunglasses, I
would imagine. So outside, stop filming yourself. You don't know
what you're talking about. I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry. This
is me. All right, Okay, this is me. Give me
a minute, Give me a minute. Where's my pipe?

Speaker 4 (02:02:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:02:49):
Last one? Remember this, I'm gonna tell you. It bugs
me at the human endeavor.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
I've never been the human in question? Have you man
kind went.

Speaker 5 (02:03:01):
To the mont?

Speaker 2 (02:03:03):
I don't even know where grums bears forget progress by proxy.

Speaker 3 (02:03:08):
Land on your own mont.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
It's no longer about what they.

Speaker 12 (02:03:12):
Can achieve out there in your behalf.

Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
We remember this up here and ever own tame.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Absolutely, it's called mental wealth.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Okay, can anybody as a pub quiz? Yes, you've got it.
The PlayStation this absolutely freaked me out when I saw
this on television. This was the PlayStation two advert nineteen

(02:03:48):
nineteen nine, when the PlayStation two. In fact, I can
just see my original PlayStation two there. Actually. Yeah, I
want to play SSX tricky. I can't find it on stream, you,
on Steam or anywhere, so I have to play the
original game. But this was an advert for the PlayStation two,

(02:04:10):
and this freaked me out. It's pretty good in it.
You after met it's pretty good, but yeah, I would
do Is it Rebecca, Yes, Rebecca, she's definitely a keeper,
Tesla's daughter. So yeah, this is I think, I say

(02:04:34):
it is that everything. But for nineteen ninety nine, it's
pretty good in it. It's just a graininess. Oh yeah,
I look, I like this. Look in the middle of

(02:04:54):
the road. That's funny. Oh it's.

Speaker 5 (02:05:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
It's like, come at me, bro, trust you bro. Oh yeah, right,
I'm gonna. I don't know what do I do? Stop?

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
Cut?

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
There we go? So yeah, that I think is that? Remember? Yeah,
that's the idea online. Yeah. Remember I showed this last week.
It's basically seeds germinating. Okay, it's it does happen? Can
I show you that there did click on the link.

(02:05:48):
It doesn't show up, but yeah, there is the fact
check underneath it, and people going, eh, bloody fact checks.
You know, they's just disinformation. It's like, look, if you
click on it, it does show you. Look, seeds can
germinate inside the tomato is the right condition, especially if
it's humid as well. So I think ladies and gentlemen.
Oh yeah, there's one. I thought that's quite interesting. There's

(02:06:13):
a light bloody TikTok music the mac receipt. Yeah, I know, right,
it's like there's right. I think that's it. Oh, this

(02:06:44):
is interesting. Look at this. So this guy taps this
guy on the shoulder and watch. So this guy just
comes out of nowhere, taps a score on the shoulder
and then George is out the way. Wow, now that's

(02:07:15):
not faking gay, right, So everything, I think that's everything.
Hold on, what was that about? Right, Okay, let's do this. No,

(02:07:46):
that's not right. Would I wouldn't eat that? Yeah? To answer,
you've got seed to germinate in inside the smarto. In fact,
you know, if you've got tomato and you plant it
in the ground, it will actually germinate. So I guess
if in the right conditions, especially humidity. Humidity obviously that's
a big factor for seeds to germinate. No, I'm just

(02:08:07):
saying he knew the fruture, definitely did so. Yeah, I
think that's it. Guys. Oh, actually, I'll tell you what.
Let's leave the ghost photos for next week. In fact,
there's one I want to show which I found quite interesting.

(02:08:34):
Where's that one now? Okay, right, check this out? Okay,
so the owner of this photograph rout. I took this
photo shortly after a car accident early this year, when
a four x four made a legal U turn and
collided with my car. I was driving and my partner
was in a passenger seat. Once we were safely pulled over,

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I managed to snap a few pictures, despite my hands shaken.
This one turned out the turned out the clearest. Oddly,
standing by the driver's side door is a figure that
looks like my grandfather, who passed away when I was twelve.
Several people who knew him had also noticed the resemblance.

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The incident took place near a cemetery too, And this
is the photograph, so if you have a look here,
you can see that figure there suman A tricky one

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was like this. If you just go back to that
one might be a bit more clearer into that. There
you go. A debunk would say, like if I was
Mick West, yeah, Nathan, yeah, what I'm showed? Actually, I
there's this Facebook page I joined called like Paranormal Sightings,

(02:10:04):
and people just like random people from public like take
obviously photographs of like apparitions and put up vast majority
of stuff are crap, but actually, fucking this has run
through them, because there's some really good ones here. So yeah,
you could say, well, you've got the light in the
background there and that's shining off and that's given the
resemblance of this figure, which can be done. Obviously motion
blur is one thing, but nevertheless it's quite interesting. It's

(02:10:29):
quite interesting. So let's go back to the first one.
Let's go to that one. Though, oh my god, I
am not going to read that. I'm just going to
read the last bit. We can confirm that this picture

(02:10:49):
is not being edited and it has been checked and
came back clear from tampering. This is the photograph have
to met. Pretty damn good, isn't it. Ah, This looks

(02:11:10):
like he was probably taken on what they called the
doorbell things, the zoom doorbells. That's pretty good, now zoom
and love it. That creepy kid's face gets a bit pixelated,
but nevertheless it was well, it's pretty good. It's pretty good.
All right, Moving on, there's another one. John who owns

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this foe said some friends of mine were out camping
a few weeks ago. They took this photo. They took
this picture with a digital camera, but the red figure
in the photo were not visible in the viewfinder. Once
it was displayed on the computer, that is what showed up.
We can't help, but it feels like it's that is

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some kind of evil presence trying to disrupt our camping trip.

Speaker 20 (02:12:01):
Hm hm, No, you know we're shutter speed.

Speaker 1 (02:12:20):
Sorry, guys, my blood your throat. So with shutter speed,
when you've got like a specific like night shot, obviously
you've mentioned there's a digital camera here, what will happen
is that sometimes the camera will automatically recognize that the
if the flash isn't on the photo, the camera should

(02:12:41):
recognize to actually basically light up the picture if the
flash isn't on. So that would require a low shutter speed,
which will need a tripod, because what will happen You
can get this effect like spirits. If you've got like
a small dot like a like a lamppost, and you've
got a slow shutter speed or a slow shutter speed,

(02:13:02):
I should say and then if you move the camera,
I will give this like a motion blur, like it
like it looks like the object is actually moving, but
it's actually to do with the camera. This could be
could be it during if you look at how the
people are really lit up quite brightly. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think it's anything demonic. Yeah I can gay. Yeah,

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here's another one court a ghosts on cam Glasgow. Who's them? Okay?
That kid's like, hey, what's this phone to be taken?

Speaker 2 (02:13:46):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:13:46):
Do you reckon? It's pretty good. It's pretty good if
you look at the background here, Like when I look
at these ghost photos and analyze it, bear in mind
I've done so many ghost hunts. Sorry my throat. So
if you look at the background, very very clear. If

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you're smoking a cigarette, and yes we call it in
this country a fag that is a British tradition is
a cup of tea in a fag's got to have that.
There's smoke from whatever you're smoking, even a joint. We'll
actually give off this like wispy effect. It looks like exoplasm.

(02:14:27):
When we'll say and you could say, look, this could
be paradolia, okay, but it just so happened. This light
source looks like a kid you know, wave is a
blipping arm out, you know what I mean. It kind
of looks like that. But yeah, this might be a
typical example of someone's smoking a can I say it

(02:14:50):
three times a fags? Yeah, they're sir. I don't know.
I think we're really we are dealing with paradolia here.
You know, it kind of looks like a spirit. It
kind of looks like a spirit when in fact, I mean,
could you say pollution? Does this not pollution?

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
Like, well, yeah you could call it that, like like
dust and all that sort of stuff. You know where
we're scene like the sun shining through the window when
you can see like all the dust particles and stuff
like that. Look, if you're taking in with a flash, sure,
because that flash is going to go off even like
orbs and stuff like that, because the only way we
can capture orbs is through a flash. So yeah, the

(02:15:34):
other thing is here. If you have a look at
the bottom, it's very bright right here. So who knows?
Who knows on that one? Oh god? This one? What
does it say here? This is my neighbour's photo. It
was taken years ago in England from inside a pub.
For all the nay sayers, is not a not a

(02:15:58):
flash reflection? Well, should we have a little look at that?

Speaker 20 (02:16:08):
Chat?

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
Would you reckon. I don't know. You can clearly see
this was taken on film. It's got to be filmed
like the old film roles used to take back of
disposable camera back in the days. I don't know, man,

(02:16:30):
it's flipping bright. So we're going by this guy here,
he's probably four twenty. It's probably like Hidden's brother or
something like that. Yeah, he's east Stone. He's rocked out.
But that is actually illuminating his hat. Obviously the light
reflection is coming down. It's obviously going to give that obviously,

(02:16:50):
assuming that the sun is obviously shining through. Now, if
someone was walking and then the sun hits at the
right position, I don't know, man, I don't know. I
doubt it will completely wipe out this person. If that
is a person just so happened to walk through the

(02:17:12):
shot of the camera, you know what I mean. Never,
that's is pretty cool, and I hope this dude is
still four twenty and clearly yeah we've seen that one.
This one again. This is what I find interesting when
we have like old film camera film role cameras like this, okay,
because it becomes more genuine than actually a digital one,

(02:17:36):
so to speak, because you know, it's not manipulated unless
you're doing you know, like a Billy Myles style, not
Billy Meyer goal three siting sort of style, even like
Georgia Zamski's when you're so super opposing come the blie
name of it. But but but with this, I found
an old photo of my brother when we were young girl.

(02:17:58):
We lived in a very haunted house and sometimes caught
some unwanted guests in the photo. But this one caught
us off guard the most. The resemblance between makes us
makes oh my god, makes all of us look on edge.

(02:18:20):
What do you think it might be? Man need to
learn English? Hmmm? I don't think there's nothing for furious
about that, tops of you. If you have a look
at the logos here, look ford Ford. You can see
the logo here as well. Clear example. This is just
a motion blurw with a film camera. So there we go.

(02:18:41):
So film cameras can give off motion blur. But look
typical example. Look look at the show ford Ford. You
can see it right there. There you go. So that
is from mely debunked. Now this is what I mean.
When you're smoking, you're going to get this, Hubby, take
this photo. Sorry, hubby he took picture of his nan

(02:19:02):
in nineteen eighty four. Oh yeah, they'll definitely if I
can bogging it up inside the house. Then no smoke
from the pan. His granddad had died a few years
before the owner of the house. Since since the nineteen fifties.
Where the smoke is reached is where the old light

(02:19:23):
switch was. Did that make any sense what I just said?
There we go. Obviously another old style film role photo,
and this is what you would typically would get when
you would smoke. Or obviously in the description here he

(02:19:45):
was saying that the pan wasn't on offs the if
you cook and bacon and all that sort of stuff, yeah,
is going to flip and smoke for sure. But the
eighties household guys, you know, it was a bit like
a pub. You can smoke, you can drink, and now
you know, it's a different time. I'm not saying that's
the case in this photograph, but you've got to take
that consideration. Cigarette smoke can cause this, you know, I'm

(02:20:06):
just saying, and I think that's it. Yeah, that is
all the photographs, So there we go. It could be ectoplasm,
who knows, who knows. I haven't got anything else, just
one more thing to the thirty one people in chat. Right,
he's gonna go. It's gonna talk about camp traps again, right,
okay me experiments. It is very very quick, very very quick.

Speaker 4 (02:20:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:20:32):
I saw this this line right here, okase, people say
the projection oh rovery no oh mate, oh thanks buh.
I'll put that in for the next book I'm planning again.
I don't know what that is yet, probably something blood expensive.
But yeah, I do appreciate that, man, Roy, Thank you
so much, brother, thank you so much. And if I

(02:20:53):
can blow you some weed smoke your way, man, I
will weed smoke into the fucking web cam, right you,
But no, thank you man. I do appreciate it, I
really do. And yeah, honestly, guys, I and anything would help. Honestly,
I'm not be the one that states that give me money,

(02:21:18):
you know, be call that pulling an ollie. Wait, great,
nudge nudge, subscribe to a Patreon. Subscribe to a Patreon
five night and nine, five night and nine. So yeah,
right back to this right, we see this line go through,
I can absolutely confirm right now, and thanks again, really
do appreciate mate, thanks to this trowl here Okay. A

(02:21:44):
lot of people say that is to do with either
a projection of a heartbeam or it could be a
black Chem trowel. But look, okay, it's quite noticeable. Look,
you've got the troil here and he got the big shadow. Okay,
but there's a shadow. Really okay, there's a video that
look there you go, Oh my god, I tell you

(02:22:10):
what when you four twenty your mouth becomes like a
hookers asshole. Mm hmm terrible mm hm. Really get into
like fizzy water. It's really good. So yeah, as you
can say, you've got the black line going all the
way through going excuse me? So I thought, well, say

(02:22:34):
what as one films the sky is twenty four to seven,
I thought, well, let's what was the time last video? Okay,
which is right yah, And let's go to the exact
part where we see that. Oh you too, so you're

(02:22:58):
here somewhere, okay, right now, have a look at this
just to confirm, don't believe everything you hear online, especially
on x especially concerned citizens saying that this is the
black chemtrail is not. Look, I'm going to tell you

(02:23:20):
exactly right. Just want to pay attention to the bottom
right here, see my cursor right there. Let's go back. Okay,
Now you see the line coming up, all right? See that?
So here it comes at the bottom right here. Have
a look. There it is and you can see the

(02:23:44):
shadow and it's the same movement as the clouds. Look.
And the reason why it's doing that is because that
trail that's been persisted right there is right on the
angle of the sun of for great sake, go away.
So the sun is basically right, it's basically it's behind
the trail, and it's literally as this is when the

(02:24:07):
sun is actually going down, the sun is hit bang
right on vertical where that basically vertical line of that
trail is, and it's producing a shadow. And that's all
it is. Because people say, ah, you don't know what
you're talking about. It's like no film, the skies have
a little look. It's that the trail itself is if
the line itself is completely off centered. Look it goes
off center. First, there it goes, and you can see

(02:24:30):
it moving. Okay, so it's not a blackchemp trail, look okay,
and then it dissipates. It's because the trail has moved
out of view. And I just want to put that
point across, just to show you look, just be careful
what you're really consuming online because a lot of people
don't know, like typical example, like that guy who filmed

(02:24:51):
himself filming the sky and all that. These people don't
know how a cloud has formed. They don't know the
basics of meteorology. Look listen, guys, look old books. It's
three of them right here in nineteen eighty six, nineteen
forty three, and nineteen forty four, and it's all detailing
cloud formations, how clouds are formed. It's the same signs

(02:25:12):
that it is today. Okay, yes, there are clouds that
are exactly the same that people say that are like,
for instance, like harp clouds. I can bring out a
heart cloud right now, boom right there from nineteen forty four.
Do you see what I mean? It's like people will
say if I show that now, people say, oh, that's
definitely haarp clouds. It's like, no, this is from a
book from nineteen forty four, London her Magistrs Statory Office,

(02:25:39):
nineteen forty four. There go cloud formations. Look, okay, do
you see what I mean? It's just to bear of
research and don't be afraid with like oh, I don't
want to put that forward because my friends believe in
harp clouds, and if I showed that, says, look, actually,
you know these clouds are actually natural. They go like
they might not think I'm a believer anymore, do you
know what I mean? Say it like it is. If

(02:26:00):
you see bullshit or something that goes against the norm,
you've got to say, look look at this, you know,
just say I'm just saying, but I'm not saying that
harp clouds are can be produced like that. You know
the ripple effect, but have some signs to back that up.
You know, before you point your characters of the sky
and you see little ripple when going, oh that's putting
heart beans around my area? Is like, okay, why are

(02:26:23):
they doing it? Is it gonna affect the weather? Do
you know what I mean? Is it really gonna affect
the area of weather around you because of these harp clouds?
Did you know what I mean? It's just stuff like that.
I'm black brown on I do apologize, but yeah, thanks
guys for turning up to day thirty two people that
had rocked up. I do appreciate it. I know the
people on Rumble, how many people got on rumbush. Look

(02:26:44):
could I actually bring myself up? I could do that?
Can I.

Speaker 2 (02:26:53):
Have?

Speaker 1 (02:26:54):
Look? Do do do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Five people watching? Hello?
Five people on rumble? I was all going and please
hit oh, ninety one people, no way, no way, rumble.

(02:27:14):
I've had ninety one people watch live. That's pretty good,
that's pretty good. Yeah, what's this?

Speaker 5 (02:27:22):
Look?

Speaker 1 (02:27:23):
Fucking twat on screen? They say, I nick?

Speaker 5 (02:27:31):
Anyway?

Speaker 1 (02:27:33):
What am I doing for twenty two hard? I'm talking
shit right, let's uh, let's end a stream now, right, fantastic?
So yeah, next week we'd be all about gym and
flying saucers. Might be a part two of publications. I've
got AI sorted out, so I don't have to do
any reading, thank god. From that might add a bit
of Ladimitzinski. And if you've got time, we do a
pub quiz as well. I must. I fucked up on

(02:27:55):
a few answers. I have to admit so that one
don't count, or I'll go through and then I won't
have actually got the answer right that I put wrong.
I'll put the point into the next quiz. So I'm
not going to when we do a pub quiz, It's
not gonna be like the whole episode. It'd be like
ten questions instead of twenty, you know. So I'll still
add the UFO stuff in there to keep you with
mused and all that, and it's just as you're in

(02:28:17):
chats something to do basically. So yeah, yeah, but I've
enjoyed the show, and I hope you enjoyed the show
as well. I definitely enjoyed myself, and I hope enjoyed
the unboxing of this the Aztecs UFO crash in nineteen
forty eight. So I'm going to be reading through this
book in great detail and trying to find at least
some decent information that I can put forward. Like I said,

(02:28:38):
this book is not online, and I'm going to do
a best that I can to put some light into
this case. We are dealing with that guy at the
bottom there of Rendell Stevens, which is dealt with Billy Meyer. Okay,
so it's like you know, but nevertheless, I have an
extremely rare book at a decent price, which normally be
quite expensive. You know, I've just seen from the eBay

(02:29:00):
distance to my collection, So yeah, what I'm gonna kiss
it fingers that have been on that terrible rights that
everything is like tipping over. I need to sort, I
need to get your bookcase out. It's absolutely terrible. So yeah,
thanks guys. It's a pleasure as always, and it's because

(02:29:22):
of you is why I keep doing this. Honestly, it's yeah,
if it wasn't for you, i'll be doing this. Put
it that way. I do get enjoyment out of it.
Is It's been taken a while to get my foot
in now and now I can actually really like relax
to a bit before twenty, you know, interact with you guys.
And I'm really I'm really enjoying it. I really enjoy it,

(02:29:43):
and it I shouldn't be so hard on myself, like
people say, let's go through chat, Rebecca, thanks for being here.
I'm I'm free, not in a gay way for next week.
I see everyone in chat has a great sense of humor.
I went through Saxon Man see Ruddy Roderie. Thanks for
being here. Pleasure as always, and thank you for the

(02:30:05):
for the five five pounds. That is much appreciated. Ship
Hop Pop and Woodward Coolborough's cats rebeca again. Right, anyone
anyone in chat said goodbye John Stokes, come say goodbye now,
because we end of the show. I could play some

(02:30:26):
of that music. I've got OUTR music somewhere to let's
do that. Okay, right, that's it. We're gonna end the
show right there. Yeah, back next week nine o'clock talking
about some German flying sources and yeah, having a good weekend,

(02:30:51):
and until next time, you must always remember being here.
Buddy's here. Thank you very motion, do appreciate it? Is
that going to go again? The music wait for it,
don't have to click the button again, thank you. Right,

(02:31:12):
that's it. I can end it right there.

Speaker 21 (02:31:15):
Yeah, Ed win Ward, Rebecca went through Saxon, Nythan Bottom
show hip Hop, John Strokes and Rebecca Rotary. That's it right,
I shall see you all next week and so next
I've always remember and watching you, watching us, watching them.

Speaker 1 (02:31:37):
What do I click and clicked something? All right, I
have to search that switch that off so I could
do this. Right, Everyone, have a good weekend and I'll

(02:32:44):
see you next Friday, especially you signs Evidence Fringe. Thanks
for being here, right,