The Man Who Built FLYING DISC'S In WW2!!

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Speaker 1 (00:59):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Alien Addicts one. It's fine,
a luxurious day. I hope you are doing well and
I hope you had all had a good week. Oh
my god, did it intro skip a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Was it just me?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It went a bit skippy anyway? Anyway, So yeah, I
hope you all had a good week. It's been quite
busy for me, and I'm really sorry I haven't put
any videos out at all on updates on upology. It's
just been, you know, one of those weeks where it's
just been absolutely manic. Got to earn our money, baby,
got to earn the money. But yeah, yeah, it's one
of those things. But I'm more clear now. So the
next week we're back on track. We're back on track.

(01:31):
So for tonight, got a mega show talking about German
flying saucers. So if you've been familiar with the work
I've been doing, there's a number of subjects that I
talk about, well, something I've bring me researching for a
long period of time. Two of them I can't talk
about because it's the algorithm. One is to do with
the trails in the sky. The other one was nine
to eleven and it's this one is the big deal

(01:53):
for me. It's the German Flying Sources, and so what today,
what I've got in store, We're gonna be talking about
Joseph Andreas Epp and his story of being involved with
the flying discs, not flying sources, flying discs of World
War Two. I'm going to get back into that. So yeah,
it's like a mixed bag. You know, an alien addictor

(02:15):
is a bit of a mixed bag. So we're gonna
be talking about a bit of cult, theosophy of the
Nazi Party, and some other things like paranormal and UFO
stuff as well. So let's get back on track to
a bit of road coll Who we've got in here,
Science Fringe. Welcome on in. Mark g Oh my god,

(02:36):
I looked in the mirror. My eyes were red. I'm
like you eight falling everybody, Nick, John Strokes, how's it going,
Rudary Motion, how's it going? Man? Mark, Jeffrey Else, We've
got here ancient our ancient Ireland expeditions. Well going in,
that's the new one. Don't think I've seen you here before,

(02:56):
and I think I say it so far. So yeah, yeah,
welcome all the newcomers. Morning, it's good to see all
so today. Yes, as I mentioned before, it's all about gym
of flying sources. But there's done one thing I have
noticed this past week. It's been a bit of a blessing.
Check this out, clear blue sky. It finally feels like spring.
I've been out in the garden saw and all my

(03:19):
beds bed out, you know, get a little manure in.
It's been actually really really nice. And yeah, you're probably thinking, nah, Nick, Yeah, yeah,
you're filming trails again. No, it's actually been no trails whatsoever.
Is proper spring and it's amazing. It's been absolutely glorious.
So when you see skies like this, go out get
your Vimindy. I sound like an old man, do I?

(03:41):
So what we got on for today? Oh, I'll tell
you what. I popped onto a lovely lady show and
her name is Amy. Where are you two? Once again?
I've got like a thousand tabs open, dw aw's it go? Man,
Nice to see you. Where is it? Where are you do? Amy?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
There it is? Oh my god, I'm an idiot. So
not long ago, I think a couple of days ago.
I was on Amy's show talking about UFO, Twitter and
is it dead? Is the community sort of is it fractured?
So to speak? And a really good conversation with Amy
about this, and I think it is to a certain degree.

(04:25):
I'll definitely go recommend listening to it because you get
a sort of different opinions on I mean, me and
Amy comes from the different avenues, you see. So what
I noticed the past three years being on Twitter, I
haven't been on Twitter that long, is that the UFO

(04:46):
information been coming out has all been pushing people in
different directions. For instance, Luela Zondo, as me and Amy
were talking about clearly a disinformation this information agent who
has been put into the community to really just i
mean really pull it into different categories, I mean really
split people apart. But again it's down to I mean

(05:08):
all sort of pinated. We're not appinated, I would say,
we're all split off in categories, isn't it? The far
left the far right? And I think this has done
on purpose to really again, it's just like the society
as well. It's not just for social media, so like
there's so many different things you can really pinpoint. I
think a downfall was pretty much COVID when that happened.

(05:30):
But yeah, it was a really good, interesting conversation with
Amy about UFO community with Twitter and amongst other things,
because who is that girl? Is it Kelly? I've forgot
a bloody name. Now she does the UFO rabbit hole
on Twitter and we just got loosely talked about it.
And it's quite amazing how many people who's been in

(05:51):
the UFO community for a very short period of time
started to notice the disinformation agents, so to speak, and
where the conversation is going about eufology, especially disclosure, which
is pretty much nowhere at the moment, isn't it really?
John Scott, Welcome on in, man, Jeremy Corbell cor Bell's

(06:16):
cats see I should never For twenty half an hour
before the show, I thought, ah, relax me like, no,
no work on in, guys, welcome on in. So yeah,
go check that out. That is called is UFO Twitter dead?
UFO community is fractured and I would absolutely one hundred
percent agree with that. Sue, let's go on to Oh,

(06:37):
let's give a shout out to the boys the Daily
Conspiracy Podcast. I couldn't talk about conspiracies every single day. Man,
It's like we're living in the world of conspiracy theories.
At the moment is never ending. It's like everything's going
absolutely crazy. But if you want your latest news on conspiracies,

(06:59):
go check out the Daily Conspiracy Podcast where you can
find Oli, Lee and Dave there five days a week.
They have a Patreon now you can spend I think
it's like five ninety nine a month, and all the
proceeds go to Alien Addicts because they are definitely well
worth a watch and a listener as well, and you
can actually listen to it on video form as well,
so you can see what Alien Addicts used to be like,

(07:20):
but on a daily conspiracy podcast, and there's a lot
of fun as well, a lot of fun, a lot
of piss taking out of Oli and it's my hands.
So yeah, let's get on with the show. Because they
mentioned something. They mentioned my name on one of their shows.
Let's bring up Spotify. Okay. So this one here is

(07:41):
called Mushrooms, Demons and the Sex Spots, oh by their
Daily Conspiracy Podcast. Okay, so just listen to this because
Lee mentions my name. Okay, yeah, they go me Na Sinick.
You go find out in a minute. But nothing like
occult stuff. It's to do with German flying sources. But
it's all jokers or joke. So they mentioned about the

(08:03):
occult theosophy to do with the Nazi Party. So I'm
going to click play. I'm going to have listen to
what Leasa says. Is it working? I can't hear anything?
Hold on, there we go. Well, I've got to turn

(08:29):
it up on my phone. That's gay. Okay, here we go.

(08:50):
It's strong, mate, it's strong.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Mhm.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh hold on, guys, can you hear anything?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
No sound?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
All right? Okay, two seconds. I'm bloody you that will happen,
all right, no worries, backup, plan do do do? Right?
Can you hear this? Oh right? Okay? Oh gay? Right

(09:47):
two seconds. If not, we'll have to be on with
the main show. Yeah, I have to mike stream you.
Hoard has been pretty uh pretty shit today, right, okay,
let me do that. Go into that. Could you hear this?

(10:17):
Can you hear that? Guys?

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Ah, guys, can you hear that? Or not? John Stroke says,
you can't hear it. It's all audio, guys. Okay, there's
no video. It's just all audio. No ah, man, I

(10:57):
don't know what's going on. Still no, all right, okay.
So basically what Lee was saying I'm sorry, guys, yeaes
stream yard seems to be pretty pretty crap at the
moment and what's going on with it. But what Lee
was talking about about Hinder's Castle and that the occult
philosophy behind the Nazi Party was pretty much purpued by

(11:18):
the or dismissed, one would say, by the mainstream historians
who say, no, no, the cult philosophy has nothing to
do with that, nothing to do with the Nazi Party.
Was like, hold on a minute. You know, when you
look at for instance, there's different there's different avenues you
could go down. I mean, for instance, the first one
that comes to mind is the Tallest Society, and this

(11:40):
is people. I can't even play the cliff that's gonna
be really annoying, all right, So yeah, the Tallest Society
I've mentioned before, it's a organization that was set up
by cult philosophers. For instance, Carl Haushoffer, he was a
German Jew politician, military officer, and he pretty much had

(12:02):
a lot of influence into the Nazi ideology, so to speak.
And Dietrich Eckhart is what is another one German poet,
play writer, journalist, and his he sort of brought up
Hitler to be this charismatic new leader, and he played dirtrick.
Eckhart played a massive part into the occult philosophy of

(12:24):
the Nazi Party. He pretty much the whole bringing back
the Aryan race. This is what I got to talk
about when what the Taller Society is. People say it's
the thought society, but it is. The real pronunciation is taller,
So it is t hsu l e. And what this
is actually talking about is to bring back the old

(12:44):
philosophy of the German race, the superior race, so to speak.
And we're talking about the Aryan race here. So you
had a Carl House author, Dietrich Eckhart, and Rudolph wons
botted off. All these people sort of came in and
sort of shared ideas, and I believe there was part
of that as well. And eventually that was from eighteen

(13:06):
s nineteen eighteen and it disbanded, and there's some conclusion
whether or not the real society was mixed into that
as well, and that sort of expanded it in nineteen
twenty five. So to say there is no occult philosophy
behind the Nazi Party, that is absolute, complete hogwash. I
mean this is like mainstream historians here, you know. It's
a bit like look at like Graham Hancock in his way,

(13:28):
how the well he's been talking about. The archaeologists that
don't they won't have any open mind about other ideas
in terms of how these pyramids got here. It's tend
to stick down like an echo chamber, do you know
what I mean. It's so I tend to find these

(13:48):
mainstream scientists engineers, or especially scientists, but like climate engineers,
like oh yeah, please, you know, even he's like seemed
like bloody weather Man and stuff like that. But I
won't believe anything mainstream would say, especially becomes like BBC
and stuff like that History Channel. I think they've talked
about it occasionally. I think they've talked about it occasionally.

(14:10):
One true Saxon, come on in, mate, come on in.
So yeah, just to say that the occult philosophy didn't
happen before the Second World War, it was absolutely nonsense.
Oh my god, I can that's your name, Helena Blavowsku
and her book Isis unveled in eighteen seventy seven, and

(14:31):
the Secret Doctrine in eighteen eighty eight, and the Nazis
really took a lot of inspiration from those two books
and applied that into their theosophy of is a really
tricky one. I mean, I'm trying to find a book
from Dietrich Eckhart who wrote a book back in nineteen
twenty and it's extremely rare, hard to find, and if

(14:54):
I did find it would be extremely expensive. I always
find that sort of occult philosophy. Yeah, okay with the
Nazis here. But again, this is like the scary thing
and strange thing about the Nazis is that they took
this a cult philosophy and they actually did it. They
actually applied it into their practices. Regardless of what any

(15:16):
historians will say, that's what they did. That's from my opinion,
and a typical example of that I've heard of the
anun Eb. Okay, So the alun Eb was set up
in nineteen thirty five by Heinrich Himmler. He was a
madman in terms of the occultist And this is what
Lee was talking about, and that extra that account play
is that in Himler's castle is it is it Venusburg

(15:40):
or something like that, whereas where his place as a
free sided castle and they have stuff in there that
is pretty much a cult philosophy. Let's bring up some
typical example of what is in Himler's castle. Okay, so

(16:00):
this is called the black Son and Lee did mention
about this. Okay, No one really knows what this symbol represents. Okay,
but what I'm going to explain something here. Okay. So
you have the it's almost like a sun will, so
to speak. And what you have the sigrunes ever heeard
of sig runes before, I'm going to show you here

(16:21):
what sigron is, which means we have to get out
with that. So sigrun is this okay? And this is
a sign for victory. Obviously this is an ancient symbol,
but the Germans really took this and applied it into
their symbolisms. But this is what it means. It means victory. Okay.

(16:45):
So if we go back, sorry guys, go back into
Himna's castle. This is in pretty much in one of
his ceremonies. I'm trying to find it here. Yeah. So
this what you have here, got these pillars going around
in a circle, a bit of picture, no, okay, And

(17:07):
you have the sun will sun dial disc so to speak,
with twelve zig runs going all the way around. I
did a video on my YouTube channel about what this
could represent, and I'll tell you what, I'm going to
leave it for another episode. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave

(17:27):
up another live stream and I really find out what
this is because historians, I mean you're talking about historians
here don't know what this is. And obviously we're talking
about it is conspiracies when you look at it, but
it's more proven conspiracies because I'm actually seeing the bloody thing.
Like most conspiracies, you know, Yeah, it's all about like speculations,

(17:50):
so to speak, but this is actually implanted in the
center of this ritual center. It's absolutely crazy. So I'm
going to get back to what the well the black
Son's symbol represents. But there is a sign for victory
that's going all the way around her. So yeah, that
is a black hole. Yeah, I'm not too sure man

(18:11):
about that, because Himlow was obviously part of the SS
and I know from yeah, I could remember there was
a force war they found and they they took out
this war and then they found out all these artifacts.
And I'm going to talking about the artifacts in a minute,

(18:34):
but about this symbol. May absolutely no idea didn't only
thirteen people get charge and convention in that trails Nuremberg. Yeah,
it was only very small amount of people. The rest
of them Mark went into Argentina, Spain. I know the
British had some, and obviously America as well, but I
think the Nuremberg Trials mate was probably just in my opinion,

(18:57):
it was just to say, okay, let's just get this
out of the way, and it's almost doing that, but
you're actually doing that behind here, you know, you're sort
of this is what the Americans dint. In fact that
everyone did that. The English did that as well, you know,
took naracy scientists, engineers and people in the intelligence agency
and brought them over into the Allied powers Perhabsolutely crazy,

(19:18):
isn't it? A rogue trooper? How's it going? Man? How's
a gun? I love this? Graham? Sorry, I love this,
I say, Graham Hancock. Then I love this German UFO
stuff much better than the new stuff. And new UFO
stuff is very interesting. They were into everything fat a lot. Yeah,

(19:39):
it's you're going to see one through Saxon. I will
bring out loads of information. I mean, all my German
flying source of research is to do with basically all
books and stuff are collected for the past well over
ten years, which spans over eighty years. So I've kind

(19:59):
of avoided the internet because the Internet says one thing. However,
if you do the research going back to the original source,
it says another thing. So I've really put the foundations
of where this germ and UFOs and flying sources come from.
So I'm going to allude to a little bit today,
but it really needs like a four episodes into this.
I was the one Graham Hancock as Hammer. How was

(20:20):
a going man? Graham Hancock is a quality to listen
to and watch. If only we knew something who actually
knows him and could possibly get him on the show
with Alien Addict or Daily Conspiracy Podcast. I have absolutely
no idea who you're talking about. Hmmm, I don't know

(20:41):
that is that guy on the left there or that
that woman on the left. Yeah, I've I've spoken to Santha.
I should shouldn't say, but everyone knows there a Santha
is Graham's wife scheduled to pop in at some point,
but I will. I am planning to get Graham Hancock on.
It can be quite particular. Mate, got to pick him

(21:02):
on his right day, so to speak. But a lovely guy.
Lovely guy. But yeah, that is the biggie mate because
we need those views because me talking about conspiracies don't help.
Bloody algorithm assholes. But yeah, I will definitely get Graham
Hancock on the show John p Adventures. I don't think
I said hello, man, I appreciate you coming on in
hope you're doing well. Just check and chat one. I

(21:23):
think that's everyone. So yeah, the ad on eb is
in expedition too. Yeah, it was an expedition that was
set up in nineteen thirty five by Heinrich Hitler. They
went to Tibet, China, and I can't remember somewhere else
as well. And what they were trying to do is

(21:44):
find their old philosophy or ancient past, and obviously philosophy
because you think that a lot of German especially like
the swastika, that's like an ancient symbol that can be
traced back through thousands of years. You know, it's nothing new,
it's just they have adopted it and just changed it.
I mean, technically is a Hindu symbol, but you can

(22:05):
trace it back through Samaria through all over the place.
It's the same with the German eagle that could be
traced back to Samaria. So you will find that a
lot of occult philosophy and the Aryan race was based
in Tibet and India, and obviously the Hindu religion as well.
It's crazy. When do you really look into it, you think,

(22:26):
why do they take this strange philosophy and sort of
adapted it into their new occult practices. It's absolutely crazy.
But they did these expeditions that went up to Tibet,
and you can see videos of them, the expeditionists measuring
the skulls of the faces of the Tibetan people and
obviously the artifacts as well, and is bloody annoying. I'm

(22:48):
going to try one more time to get this up
because I want to talk about a little bit about
spirit destining. I'm going to try one more time. It
just soa to annoying that Spotify it worked last time.
It were last time. It's not working now. Maybe I

(23:10):
was playing through there that's why. Oh my god. Okay, okay,
two seconds, okay, two seconds, guys, I'm going to try something.
This should work. It's weird because I can control Spotify
through my phone, but not this time, right, because this

(23:34):
is really interesting stuff. So it was all about the
Spirit Destiny, which was the spear that pierced the side
of Christ. And there was rumors that whether or not
Himler have actually like stole or snagged the Spirit Destiny
for himself. And there's very rumors that he got like

(23:56):
a swordsman to like copy the sword and he kept
it for himself. But apparently whoever possessed a sword had
power for like a thousand years. I really got to
play this podcast. It's really interesting. All right, it's going
to click plate. Okay, let's do that, right, Okay, guys, Okay,

(24:30):
I'm sorry for the radio silence.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I really want to see if this works. Trial and
error error? Right? Can you hear this? It's fucking working?
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Man?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
What is going on? Okay? Spotify?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Okay? How annoying? Okay?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Can you sorry? Guys? One last time? Is this going
to work? Can you hear this?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
The nineteen twenties or late twenties or early thirties, he
made a replica of it in the early thirties. As
the as the Nazis are sweeping across Europe, he is
booting Europe looking for objects.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Oh yes, we got there. Okay, fantastic, Thank God for that, right, yes,
charl and Erra, guys, Charla and Era ship hop up.
Thanks for being on here. I do appreciate fuck for that. Okay, right,
let's get back to brass tax. Then let's bring up
my notes because the spiritesting is interesting because Himmler did

(26:22):
go out and really pick up a lot of a
lot of relics, a lot of artwork, and I do
believe there is one reference of Thor's hammer in a
document somewhere. I mean, I think I think Hitler sort
of took the piss out of Himmler. I believe in
some sort of stories, and everyone looked at Himler as

(26:44):
a complete madman to the occult. I mean, he bought
the three sided castle, and I know we did a
lot of I mean, for instance, when an SS officer died,
they would go through this occult ceremony. Is absolutely crazy,
it really really is. But I think we can do
that for another episode. But let's talk about spirit DestinE

(27:05):
and we're talking about twenty five twenty eight. Okay, twenty
five twenty eight, Can I do that? Okay? Okay, So
this is cool this podcast is no longer running. It's

(27:28):
called Eerie X And this is episode ninety seven Nanci
Flying Sources. And there's an author called Jerry E. Smith.
And not a lot of people find out about Jerry Smith.
He talks about I think about Operation paper Clip and
stuff like that. But check out this about the Spirit Deestiny.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Well, he was the guy in charge. He was the
one playing all the pieces off of each other, and
he's the one who mostly away in back in the book.
I don't know if you noticed, I have the Hitler's
home address in Argentina when they left the Bunker and
moved to barri Loche. Oh boy, yeah, I thought that
was I thought that was absolutely awesome. I'm still breaking

(28:09):
my arm patting myself on the back.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
And having.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
So.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Kimmler early on became fascinated with the Spear of Destiny
something like nineteen seventeen or so. He first had contact
with it. In the nineteen twenties or late twenties or
early thirties. He made a replica of it in the
early thirties. As the as the Nazis are sweeping across Europe,

(28:37):
he's looting Europe, looking for objects owned by previous possessors
of the Spear. He finds a three sided castle, the
only three fighted castle in Europe, and converts it to
a spear museum, a living, breathing, dank museum in which

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every room in it is appointed with things owned by
previous possessors and operators of the Spear, so much so
that he has a slave labor camp built outside the
castle to continuously the renovations for him, And in the
basement of it he creates a secret chamber, probably a

(29:21):
myth arium, to conduct black magic rituals using his replica
of the Spear. And then comes the Onslass nineteen thirty eight.
And after the Onschlass. Now the Vienna artifact is what
most people know of as the Spirit of Destiny. As

(29:42):
I said, there are half a dozen others around the planet.
The object in Vienna had been in Vienna since the
early eighteen hundreds. Before that, it had been on display
a Nuremberg from the sixteen hundreds to the eighteen hundreds,
and then had been hidden. As Pollion is marching on Nuremberg,
the people in Nuremberg know that with it he's going

(30:03):
to rule the world. They put it into hiding. They
give it to a certain baron, a certain nobleman who
turned out not to be so noble, who after the
fall of the Half, after the fall of the Holy
Roman Empire, he realized that he didn't have a legal owner,
and he sold it to the Habsburgs, who ran the
Austro Hungarian Empire, and they've had it on display from

(30:28):
about eighteen ten eighteen twelve up to nineteen thirty eight,
when Hitler ordered it and the entire reich treasure sent
back and put back on display in Nuremberg. Now the
story goes, and this is the wildest piece of this
whole wild story, is that instead of it going to Nuremberg,

(30:50):
Himmler snagged it, brought the greatest swords maker kind of
like from kill Bill from Japan to Germany and had
him make an exact replica of it, and the replica
went on display in Nuremberg, and the real one stayed
in his crazy castle in Diebelsburg to do black magic with.

(31:13):
And the story then goes on even even weirder. Let
me let me step step out for a moment. You
may have heard of the Dockown massacre.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay, right, So that is an excerpt from the Eerie
podcast every eery X podcast. As I said, excuse me,
they're no longer running, but I was. I was researching
German flying sources. Yeah, I do internet research with German
flying sources, but the bulk of my research is I mean,
I use the Internet to sort of fact check things

(31:46):
because I know my original sources, you know, from the
books I read, and yeah I do read them by
the way, even though I can't read through a certain degree.
But yeah, go check that out. That's that's that podcast there,
and tell you what. Let's just play Daily Conspiracy podcast
for Leon.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Dave haves to say fuck one meets all for everyone,
which I don't think there is, but uh, there's something
so obviously the data and eyewitness accounts. There are lights
in the sky. That's why I love to say lights
in the sky because people like it's a craft, it's
a fuck I haven't seen one, which I don't think

(32:28):
the thought path for everybody. But there is something more.
And if there is something more, then there's you know,
a purpose, a why, and you start running that down.
Not that there's a one I haven't seen that. We've
heard people say more in that direction for physical things,
then the official.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
It says Forys seven minutes. I'm Forys seven minutes and
it's not the part. Okay, whatever, just because I gotta
be all day bloody Spotify. How annoying is that? Yeah,
that's just move on to some German flying sources. So yes,
I would agree one true Saxon that the Bell definitely

(33:10):
was built. However, what the History Channel says, and the
people that this is not me bashing is the people
that don't really do the proper research into this is
a fact. Is there's a book here, No, that's not it.
It's it's Eagle Wakowski. If you want to know anything
about the Bell project, go check how Eagle Wakowski's book

(33:33):
called the Let's go find It Igle wit Kowski. That's it.
And he written a book called book because it's really
really important, and I would definitely recommend anyone who wants

(33:57):
to know really good details about the Bell project go
check out this book. So coming up is that? Okay? Fantastic? Yeah,
this is called The Truth about the Wounder WAFF, which

(34:19):
means the Wonder Weapon because obviously, back in World War Two,
we were talking about miracle weapons systems that the Germans
were developing because they were way ahead of their time
in terms of rocketry, aviation, weaponry, the whole shebang. I mean,
I'm not good or and find the nastis there, but
that it's it was just technically brilliant and everything. No

(34:40):
wonder why the Germans went to like especially where the
Americans took all the German scientists, like you know veronovon
Brand who built rocket that allegedly took the Americans to
the Moon, which didn't by the way. But yeah, if
we go check out this about the Bell project. Now,
what needs to be clarified that the Bell Project was

(35:03):
also your very top secret program that happened in near
the latest stages of the world of the Second World War.
And what this was was a craft. Well it's not
really a craft. It was I'll tell what the bell.
Well they call it de glocker. De glocker there you go,

(35:24):
which means the bell. So yeah, you would find this
primarily anyway you go when you look at the de glocker.
So this, if I remember rightly on top of my head,
this wasn't this was a bell shaped craft. It was
twelve twelve feet in diameter and sixteen feet heights. Wise,

(35:48):
I think I believe, and inside you had two barrels
that had a red mercury liquid inside. I think it's
called serum twenty five has. It's been a while of
research into the Bell project and what it was is
that they will counter rotate the fluid in the barrels.
But the Bell device was connected to a power plant

(36:10):
and they were shooting millions of voltage through the device
and it would do something to the liquid. And apparently
what happened is that this device levitated. It didn't fly
around in the sky according to the History Channel or
nothing like that, but it gave off like a massive
amount of radiation. And there are some documents in that

(36:31):
book I just showed you there and it is showing
the fact that plants deteriorated metal started deiorted nine eleven.
It's like so many different things. I obstly gave like
a massive amount of radiation. And this was tested in
the doors first, and they had to change the bricks
because it was surrounded in the ceramic bricks, and they

(36:52):
had to change it every time they tested the device,
and eventually it was brought outside. And there are some
documents to suggest this is like this blue glow coming
from one of the test sites. But this device had
to be linked up to a power plant, so the
fact that it's flying around in the sky is absolutely
you know, it's just untrue really, but go check out
Igorgokowski's book The Secret of the wunder Off, which means

(37:17):
the Wonder Weapon. So I would agree with you on
that one. You said that I've lost you now one
true Saxon. Yes, yeah, go definitely go chat that out.
Madam Blavowski was a massive influence on the Nazi Party,
well worth looking into. Yeah, I know she's a bit

(37:37):
like controversial and all that in facts, I mean, does
a bother me. You know, he's not going to take
it serious or anything like that. But I'm just interested
in the whole aspect of where the Nazis came from.
And people will say, oh, you've you take it. It's
just interesting. I'm fascinated with the First World Second World
War on both sides, you know, English and German. I

(38:00):
just find that whole time period fascinating personally. But again
it's going back to the occult philosophy. Yes, it was
taken from Madam Bleabowski mysterioan. I know you've got the
book and I went to Gastonbury and it got this
amazing old bookshop. It was literally filled to the rim
of old occult philosophy books. I mean like thousands of

(38:22):
books there, and they had the whole selection of I
think it was the Secret Doctrine. I think there's different
volumes of it. And I'm not joking. It was like
three hundred pound for the whole collection. But this was
all original eighteen I think it came out eighteen eighty eight.
I believe there might have been items of eld but
it is crazy. But yeah, I'll probably I'll look into it, mate,

(38:44):
because I tend to stay away from internet research when
I I want to be like, if I know I
can find a book, I would look into the book first.
I want to go back to the original source. That's me.
I had a hour research really, but yeah, I definitely
check out out bro. Yeah, definitely go check out You've
got the Secret Adoption Collection? Need reference at all? Yeah,

(39:07):
it's may. I can imagine it would be a massive undertaking, brother,
so that I need to like really sit down again,
really plan this one properly. Six books hard back, Yes, yes,
you're right, it was. It was more than four books.
I remember that, and I think it was in leather. No,

(39:27):
I think that was like the Satanic Bible or something
like that. Oh mate, honestly, I'm planning to go to
class and brew with a missus at some point and
I'm going to go there and show you this this
bookshop that the guy that owns it thinks that they
are aliens, like an alien base underneath the shop. It's good, laugh,
good fun, good fun. So yeah, the Bell Project, that's

(39:47):
one show I need to do with Hidden about that
because because we I did how many shows did we
do on it? It must have been an eight hour show.
So once through Saxon, if you I'm going to show
now go to YouTube and as we go to Hidden

(40:10):
Underbelly and this is my my good friend Hidden, And
if you go to live is that coming through? Okay? Yes,
it's coming through fantastic And if you go all the
way down too. World War two German UFO technology that
they may have had gos three hours and twenty minutes,

(40:32):
and we did a second one World War two German
UFO Technology Part two and that was like an early
three hours, So is you know over a seven hour
live stream we did and we haven't even covered the
Bell project. Okay, so if you want to go check
those two out. I go into almost like a deep
dive into German Flying Sources. Talking about German Flying Sources.

(40:56):
Should just get into it because our ramble mare are
amble too much. Okay, let's do this. Bring my notes up.
Everything's in my head, but I need notes because I
four twenty a bit too hard rot Really, the stuff's
too strong, mate's it makes me a bit cuckoo, all
red eyed me. Right, Let's go for my motes and

(41:20):
that's done. That's done. Okay, bring up photographs. They're in
dark blue cover. Ah right, Okay, that rings a bell
with the philosophle still on. You got me big words

(41:41):
going on the OSIF Society logo stamped on in gold.
Oh okay, all right, so I think the me and
misses want to go there like one weekend. I'll go
chat out mate, I'll bear that in mind. I do
appreciate that much bruchhed and if I can afford the book,
I'll buy it. Just finish paying off my bloody PC,
which is especially mine. You're mine now, that's it, right, Okay,

(42:06):
German Flying Sources did the Germans build flying sources. Well
maybe maybe not, but I'll tell you something that they
could have done that sounds a bit of a possibility.
So if you want to know about German flying sources,
this is what you probably find on the internet. This
is called the howl Naboo and they had three, no,
actually five models of these from the span of nineteen

(42:29):
thirty nine to nineteen forty five, near the end of
the war. These are anti gravity flying sources. As this agency.
You've got the upside down panther turret and you've got
some guns on the ends. There. Here's another one called
the rail the real flying saucer. If you go to
the side here, oh, actually here we are or actually

(42:50):
got the proper photograph and it's that so as you
can see here you have the real flying saucer on
top of the tripod, got the car at the and
you have a man touching the tip of this flying saucer.
Whether or not you think it's real, it's entilept to you,
but it's I mentally fascinating. One thing I've been trying

(43:14):
to do is find out the original source of where
these photographs come from. Here is one of my that
actually the rarest book you can find on German flying
sources on my camera's way off. So this literally took
me about over ten years to get this one. Yeah,

(43:38):
well it's one or two books. But there's something called
the Real Project and this was the first ever mention
of anti gravity flying sources. Two Austrians that wrote this
book and the other one as well, had these photographs
that was from the Temple Hof Gazelle Shaft, which was

(43:58):
an organization that was in Vienna. They managed to get
all the photographs of the flying sources and it's in
the documentary you could go find on my Cosmic Twilight
channel and I've got the original documentary here. But they
had all the photographs of the how Naboom Friel flying sources. Okay,

(44:19):
so this is what you would typically would find on
the internet about this, and again here we have here.
Let's just show some excerpts of it. But to find
the original photographs, it is odd. It's bloody odd. But yeah,
it's mentally fascinating. But this is where it all came from.
But we're not talking about that today. We're talking about
that another time. Bring up a bit bigger. That's what

(44:41):
she said, and let's go to this oh hold on,
I was right. Okay, so this is what you would
normally find anti gravity flying sources. But before anti gravity
flying sources need to go back to nineteen forty one,
the early forties where these were allegedly built. Now these

(45:04):
are called oh my god, I don't so these are
basically flying discs. Okay, so I would I would classify
these as flying saucers. But this is a flying disc. Okay.
So these are disc shaped crafts that were built by
four scientists. Okay. But the whole principle of this is

(45:26):
that these were conventional flying machines. When I mean conventional,
I'm talking about these were fan fan powered, jet propelled.
So for instance, here, as you can see my cursor
on the screen, you've got a central cockpit, and surrounding
the cockpit you have like this fan all these blades,

(45:47):
and what will happen that we will have rockets is
not on this artwork here, but you can have these
rockets on the side normally that four of them, and
this would actually spin just the exterior of the craft,
all the blades going around at such a high speed
the thing would actually levitate. And this is what they
were building allegedly building during the Second World War. Now

(46:12):
here's just some artists oppressions of this. We'll get to
this one in a minute. So there is no evidence
to back this up. However, looking at Germany and what
they managed to achieve, it sounds more plausible if they
did build something like this, mad Mayhem. How's it going man,
Welcome on in, Good to see you. So, yeah, this

(46:34):
is a tricky one, man, is because it's all like
trust me, bros. I hate to be a trust me bro.
I love to give you evidence, but through my over
ten years of research and German flying sources, it's hard
to find anything unless you want to go by whether
or not that's actually real or not. And that one
as well, these grain new photographs. It's it again. Is
a tricky one, man. But yeah, from nineteen forty one

(46:56):
to nineteen forty five these were built. Okay, it's just
a quick brief of engineers that were allegedly involved into this.
So this is Giuseppe Bluto, who was an engineer, an
Italian engineer who worked for the Mussolini regime. Came out
on the twenty fifth of March nineteen fifty so yeah,
it was, yeah, twenty fifth of March of nineteen fifty,

(47:18):
and this is the original article from an Italian newspaper
card Oh my God, gad Italia, like I said, twenty
fifth of March nineteen fifty. And here he's saying, basically,
he designed a flying saucer for the Germans, but then
the Germans took the design and perfected it. Okay, So

(47:40):
the whole aspect of this is all to do with rotation.
I have absolutely an idea, and I can't remember what
I said on Hidden Show, but there's a whole basically
his rotation. Here you can see where my cursor is.
These are the propulsion system to actually make this circular proposal,

(48:01):
to make it actually levitate. So he came out on
twenty fifth of March nineteen fifty. Here's another excerp of it.
Another engineer who came out five days after Giuseppe Blutza
came out. And it's this guy here named Rudolph Schreber,
who came out on the thirtieth of March nineteen fifty
in a German magazine called Delshpiegel. And this is his

(48:26):
drawing of these flying discs. Okay, So again, if I
just zoom in, you can see the guy standing up.
I just think it would it'll be sitting down, okay,
because it's not anti gravity where you're not distorting the
gravity field inside the craft itself, so the people are
not affected. So I just think it's they just draw
this just to sort of show example what the cockpit

(48:48):
probably looked like. But it's most likely the pilot would
be sat down. So again, the central plexiglass cockpit, you
have the fan going around the exterior, and right here
you have you can see the jets which was mounted
underneath it. Some of the other models were mounted on
the side. I think that was the early models, and

(49:09):
right here you can see that is what propelled the
craft forward. Okay, so it sounds more plausible that the
Germans would build something like this. They called it the
Shriver flying top. Okay, so this is just like an
art of suppression of it. Okay, So this is what
it could have looked like. Really, again, it is all

(49:30):
down to speculation. Another engineer who was part of this
was named Richard Methey, who allegedly went back into I
think he went to op Operation paper Clip into the
avrocar program in the nineteen fifties. That was like that
donut shape craft that the Americans have built. Here's there's

(49:54):
some other impressions of it of these crafts, so it
just gives you a rough idea of what these craft
actually looked like. That's something completely different. Going to move
on to that a bit later. That's called the V seven.
So again four scientists top left, we have Rudolph Driver
to the right, Richard Methay to the bottom, Giuseppe Polluto,
and the question mark is the Riddler. Now I'm joking,

(50:16):
it's actually the real name is Otto Hobbamware. Okay, so
these were welcome to the show as gun man, how's
it going. So these were the scientists that were involved
at the time, and it's all to do with speculations.
But Rudolf Schriver and Giuseppe Pollute, so they definitely did
come out in newspapers and magazines saying we're involved, We're
making these fine discs for the Germans which looked like this. Okay,

(50:39):
but today we are going to talk about this chap
here named Joseph Andrea's EPP. Let's bring this up. I've
got so much notes. I'm going to do our full
episode on Joseph Andrea's EPP. Because as I was going
through it, I was like, I'm just going to bore
you to death with his like life experiences and what

(51:03):
he's been through and everything. Just a bit of a
spoiler warning. At the moment, I find his story is
a bit dubious. I'm going to be honest with you.
There's a lot of misconsistencies and inconsistencies I should say
that don't really add up to the timeline of where

(51:24):
he was supposed to be part of the German flying
the development of the flying disc, and whether or not
he was actually stationed as a loof offfer pilot. So
it is a really really tricken one. So let's just
get into this Joseph Andreas Epp, which seems to be
a very common occurrence of people insert themselves into eupology,

(51:44):
you know what I mean. So again, take this information
for what it's worth. So let's start off first things first,
his book, because of course always do with books. This
here is one of his books called the Reality do Flupscheiben,
which means the reality of flying discs. Okay, it's all

(52:06):
in German. I had to translate it myself, and this
is his story. But after he died okay. So this
came out in two thousand and two and he died
in nineteen ninety seven. So a lot of information I've
got is from this book here and obviously the Internet
as well. So this guy is a Joseph Andreas ap

(52:28):
right notes please, mm hmmmmm mmmmmm okay four signist Okay.
So yeah, this guy. As I was reading through a story,
I'm going, oh my god, it sounds a bit dubious.

Speaker 8 (52:48):
What was this?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Qqqvid qqqvid. How's it going? Man? How's the girl? Welcome
on in? So yeah. Joseph Andreas Epp was a German
inventor engineer, best known for his work on unconventional flying designs,
particularly his concept of the flying disc and these flying

(53:12):
machines that he basically designed himself. We're going to get
to that in a minute. Often referred to these as
flying discs, and he was born on May the eleventh,
nineteen fourteen, in Hamsburg, Germany. Epp gained attention for his
interactive ideas about aviation, most noticeably the Amiga disc and

(53:33):
the rotating powered aircraft design developed during and after the
Second World War. So here's another A very young man
of Joseph andrez Epp. He started his career as an
inventor before the Second World War, and he was very
fascinated with aviation. I've got to laugh about this. I'm

(53:59):
trying to get the word on this. So yeah, he
was fascinated as a kid of basically flying machines and
a power of flight. And at the time Germany was
way ahead in terms of like aviation. And he's got
a lot of inspiration from this, which is called the
Fuck Wolf. I gotta get this right, fuck Wolf on

(54:20):
a good giggle about this, and it's practically the first helicopter.
I just want to say that's right, because I yeah,
the fuck yeah, the the fuck Wolf f W sixty
one and this is what it is, like one of
the first helicopters designed both Germans and yeah, I'll just

(54:46):
find it. Hilt's the fuck Wolf. So yeah, what Joseph
Andrespp took the principal as he's going on later on
his years, in his teenage years, he started to build
models like very very small, sort of very designed models
of these airplanes and eventually he managed to build them
to actually fly. And he'd taken this concept to see

(55:07):
the rotating fans the rotated blades on this. Okay, he'd
taken that concept and he applied it to this and
this isn't this book here. And he designed this in
nineteen thirty nine, two years before the engineers built allegedly
built the flying disks that I showed you. So this

(55:27):
is the concept that you had. You had the central cockpit, yeah,
they prepared at the top and on the sides here
it was a rotating fan that basically would propel the
craft upwards, and then eventually you have here, which is
the propulsion systems. So it's pretty much the same designs
as I showed you before about the sort of fab

(55:51):
propelled aircraft that you see. And yeah, at the same time, okay,
but this is nineteen thirty nine. We're going for the
timeline here. Nineteen thirty nine he designed this, okay. And
at that yeah, it was nineteen forty, he became a
teacher of aviation. He was talking about how planes work

(56:15):
and stuff like that, and eventually he designed this, which
was called the Amiga Disc. Okay, so I've got to
talk about like V seven in a bit. So this
was a circular disc shaped craft and it had as
you can see here, one two three, four for six
and eight. So it had eight fans around the subconference

(56:36):
of the craft. You had another fan on top of this.
And this was the first well I won't say the first,
but this is his design of a flying disc. So
he had a multitude of concepts. Yeah, where Olie tonight? Uh? Yeah,
Olie's not here, mate, he's of what She's dead? Now,

(56:58):
I'm gonna joke and that's horrible thing to say. Go
check out a daily conspiracy podcast, guys, honestly, go check
them out. So, yeah, this is his concept of the
flying desk itself. He's made a four scout model after
the war. Okay, this is not during the war. This
is after the war later on in the fifties where
he started to build a lot of a lot of

(57:20):
concepts of these flying craft. But yeah, this is called
the Amiga Disc. Right, So I think, oh I got
the float was an order well in no bed right Okay? Yeah,
So I mentioned that he was a technical teacher in

(57:43):
aircraft school. This is around about nineteen forties, the nineteen
forty one, and at that time in his life he
was kind of getting a bit like pissed off that
the fact that he was he wasn't really dead anywhere
with his designs. He was finding it teaching a bit boring.
I think he was staying out of the war at
that time because he was a Luftwaffer pilot as well.

(58:03):
I should have mentioned that and eventually thought, you know what,
why didn't I just send my plans for this flying disc?
And he brought it into the air the Air Reich
Ministry Aviation Council that was in Berlin at the time,
and this is in nineteen forty or nineteen forty one.

(58:26):
He brought his plans in for this flying disc. But
this is where the Air Reights Ministry, that's where they
designed a lot of these flying discs apparently. Okay, so
it was all to do with aircraft. So so what
Joseph was saying is that later on in life that

(58:46):
the the Air Rech Ministry basically taking his plans and
stolen it that created these flying discs, which is basically that. Okay,
so you can kind of see if I just go back,
this is his original design kind of looks like one

(59:07):
of these, you know what I mean. So he was
saying and says, oh no, they take him on design.
They haven't credited me. At all. And this is what
is basically he's saying as Forgerant, basically as as one
would say. So, let's play a clip of Joseph andresp
because've got to get to that to this photograph because

(59:28):
it's so annoying. And you've got to help me out
as well, guys, because I have no idea whether this
photograph may or may not have come from. So let's
bring up a clip from mister Epp himself. Someone no third, fright, fantastic?

(59:54):
All right, mm hmmmmmmmmmm Okay, it's heights. Let's play a
clip from Joseph Andres Epp. Okay, So the timeline here,
he was teaching in the school in nineteen forty. He

(01:00:15):
had his plans. He was like, right, let's see if
you can get this flying disc actually in production, I
can actually make some money out of this to help
the war effort. So he brings the plans into the
Aviation Council in Berlin nineteen forty. I believe ye, I
was believers nineteen forty, and then in nineteen forty one
they started to developing these flying discs with those four

(01:00:36):
scientists that I mentioned, and at the same time they
were like persistent rumors that there were some sort of
flying flying discs being tested in Prague or near the
test facility in Prague. So this is a clip from
Secrets UFO's Secrets of the Third Reich. You can find

(01:00:56):
it on my YouTube channel. And this is a clip
from Joseph Andre's app A.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Sort of compromise was achieved with experimental flying saucers like
the r F C seven.

Speaker 9 (01:01:13):
I'm transporting in from.

Speaker 8 (01:01:18):
The twenty six fighter squadron had been ordered to fly
from Keel to Norway in order to resupply the thirty
fighter squadrons.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
A bamba come on.

Speaker 8 (01:01:26):
On the return flight to Hamburg, I took a model
of my aircraft designer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Did they go off? Guys? Did I just go off
for a second? Am I still alive? What is going
on which stream Yard today? Honestly? What is going on
with stream Yard? How's it going? AI twenty twelve? Yeah?
I went to find what the hell is going on? Right?

Speaker 8 (01:02:11):
Am? I am?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I all good? Yeah, you can see me. I don't
know what the hell happened now, all right, okay, let's
just go back, great sake, right, okay, guys, I have
no idea. Probably the governments after me if we all
say that as conspiracy went off, but still like, okay,

(01:02:34):
that's good man, Yeah, much appreciate Yeah. I think John
mentioned that basically I'm taking over alien iites now to
the best I can. But you can find Olili and Dave.
They will be back now. And then they've just been
so busy with their Spotify podcast, the daily conspiracy podcasts.
So but no, I hope a bit more. I'll say,

(01:02:56):
more entertaining, but I need to try to keep you
entertained from my field of euphology in my knowledge who
are trying to bring forward. But I appreciate you being here, brother,
do appreciate it. So let's start again. Guys again. Apologies,
I don't know the house up in the stream yards
being totally gay today, right do that A sort.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Of compromise was achieved with experimental flying saucers like the
r f C seven.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
If you are transporting in.

Speaker 8 (01:03:27):
The twenty six fighter squadron had been ordered to fly
from Keel to Norway in order to resupply the thirty
fighter squadrons.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
A Bamba come on.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
On the turn flight to Hamwurg. I took a model
of my aircraft designed with me taking of the opportunity,
actually had it forward as against all dead in the
Reichs Air Ministry and.

Speaker 9 (01:03:44):
Thelin Berlin and who did? Who has model?

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Who did?

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
Passed this model under the Search Establishment and PYM where
tests were later carried out over and over again. I
later had reports from people who are working in the
Prague on the construction flying discs, and progress in this
field was actually being made. I also knew that Harbor
Mall and Shiva were in possession of my model and
had begun working practical applications.

Speaker 10 (01:04:19):
Mine model practice become some house has so very country
on the flu shiver, had their Shiva have signed the ads,
I only get down and get about.

Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
Shrima made certain alterations to my plans, whereas as I
was later to a certain Harbor Mall and remained true
to my original design. The second prototype is a flying
disc forty two meters long and was built by Meta
Beluzzo in breslav.

Speaker 10 (01:04:49):
Also Flu Schi want to get out Metuso on spying
Breslau on the flu schive what they're done?

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
So Schitzberg.

Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
This flying disc, as I discovered, was flown to Spitzbergen
in Norway and should have returned to Racheleen on a
directional beam with an unknown transmission frequency and code word. However,
due to a bad landing in Spitzbergen, it was damaged

(01:05:24):
and was unable to complete the return flight home on
After that, I drove into the hills just outside Prague
where the secret testing ground was supposed to have been located.
I had my likea a camera with me when suddenly
I saw such a flying saucer. I was wounded at

(01:05:45):
the time, so I know that it was November December.
Although the test flight was not due to take place
until the following February, someone had made an unscheduled test
flight and this is what I saw coming towards me.
It had no wings, absolutely none. I took a photo
and wound on the film, but it was already directly
over me. And I took a second photo and I

(01:06:06):
could see that it was a flying gyroscope, but a
flying saucer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
So there we go.

Speaker 11 (01:06:13):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
So the story behind this the fact that Joseph andrez
App knew that there were developings these flying desks near Prague,
and he was real kind of like kind of being
up about. It's kind of like real Peste officer. Look,
you're taking my designs. You're not giving me any credit.
I want some explanation. So on one day, I believe

(01:06:35):
it was it was February of nineteen forty four or
forty five, there's some collusions on the date. And he
woke up one morning he's like, right, that's it. I'm
done with this. I'm going to go to the testing
ground and try and find these flying saucers, these flying discs.
And as he's driving in that excerpt, you can see

(01:06:58):
in that clip he drives to near the testing ground
near Prague, and he stopped his car to check the
maps for coordinates, and then suddenly he realized there is
this flying saucer flying up ahead. Okay, and according to
the excerpt here in the description, this was taken in
February of nineteen forty five. There are a documentary. There's

(01:07:21):
an excerpt in this documentary. I'm going to show that
there are rumors that the V seven took off in
February of nineteen forty five as the last test run,
which was more like this, like a bit like the
Amiga disk, so to speak. But nevertheless, he's actually taken
a photograph of it. And now here is the original.
He's taken two photographs. It's the first one and here's

(01:07:44):
the second one. Okay, so we have the original right here. Okay,
what you're having here. You can see this the pluralization
of the pluralization. Okay, lady speak dout four twenty again. Mate,
I mean this is ridiculous. Yeah, this right here, this
is watermark damage. Okay. So the photograph was put in
in a very environment where photographs don't really last, so

(01:08:07):
it's probably had a bit of moisture on it and
it's basically damaged the photograph. Okay, but here is the
original one. And we're talking about this one here, and
I thought, wow, oh my god, is this an actual
real German flying saucer. It could be in it when
you look at it. Okay, And he's actually taken up

(01:08:29):
original photograph here it is. This is original photograph. However, however,
this is where I go, h it's not right here.
So yeah, original photograph right here, and here's a blown
up version of it. I want you just to pay
attention to this photograph, okay, especially to the trees. So

(01:08:52):
you've got a little trees there, branches, okay, and there
is a city, not a city if you had us
see it in that one. No, you can't really see it.
But there is like a church and there's some like
housing and you can see a bit of trees in
the background there, So you've a bit a bit like
a Billy Meyer shot. Really, and he got the flying
desk up here, and I'm going, ah right, awesome, and

(01:09:14):
this could be an actually like real even like an
anti gravity flying source of like the Hannoboo of real.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
But then I've got one of these books. Well, I
got I got two of these books, the really bloody
expensive and rare, and it is this one here. Bring
it up, it says UFOs Photographs, Volume one by Rendell Stevens. Now,

(01:09:44):
if you know about anything about Rendell Stevens, he dealt
a lot with the Billy My case back in the seventies.
So I've got found out here we go Billy my
Photographs right here, Okay, So as you can see, it's
all in this book here he almost plays like a
certain victim old vendor. I don't think he's around anymore,

(01:10:05):
and I'm I'm pretty sure he's passed on. But this
has loads of photographs of like the old style nineteen
sixties seventies. You know, the typical brim of the hat,
flying saurces. We've got an example here, but it's it's
too It was a really really good one here, stuff

(01:10:33):
like that, you know, flying saurce. You know, typical flying sources,
the brim of the hat style. So as I'm flicking
through this book, I'm going, huh, I know this photograph
is a photograph I came across and it was this. Okay, wait,
hold on, get a bit bigger. This is when my
investigation still skills starts coming in. But there's this one here, okay.

(01:10:56):
So this is UFO Photographs, Volume one, and this photograph
came up. Okay, and if you read the description here,
which I would have to, this was taken on the
twenty ninth of August nineteen sixty two and got a
precise time. Uh pannio blah blah blah blah, Tario Italy.

(01:11:23):
I think that's sergeant snap. This photo of a Ufo
as his mother, wife and daughter watched this strange flying
machine with him. It looks reflective and solid metallic. It
skipped and zigzagged along in silence and a stare. All right, okay,

(01:11:46):
picture this, okay, and let's put the two photographs side
by side. Oh, hold on, let's get my bloody head
out of that way. Which one should we do?

Speaker 8 (01:11:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Okay, let's stick that one for the time being. Okay.
To the left we have Joseph Andres Epp original photograph,
and to the right is the UFO photograph. Well, sorry,
UFO Photographed Volume one. That was that came out in
nineteen eighty six. Okay, but this photograph was allegedly taken

(01:12:21):
in nineteen sixty two. Now you tell me whether or
not that's the same photograph. Okay. Remember the branches. Look
at the branches here. Okay, I think that the one
that's in this book UFO Photograph Volume one has been
contrasted a bit more. Look at the trees, Look at
my cursors. All right, let's bring up a bit bigger.

(01:12:44):
If you can still hear me right right here, the
branches looks exactly the same as this, and even the
top bit here okay, and even that thing sticking out
seeing my cursory, if you just see that, things stick
them out again the same here. Okay. So I think
this is more contrast. And if we go to the

(01:13:07):
flying well, here's a better one. I can see. It's
just to show you the branches are more or less
actually exactly the same the flying saucer, the disc itself
looks more or less the same. So in my conclusion,

(01:13:28):
ladies and gentlemen, this is the same photograph. It's got
to be. And this makes me go, okay, right, what
is going on here? So if this photograph was taken
on February fourteenth, nineteen forty five, here is the original

(01:13:53):
photograph that was taken. This is the original one, okay,
but it's in this book I came out in nineteen
eighty six. But the photograph he was taken in nineteen
sixty two. But we have Joseph Andrea's epp original photograph.
So how the hell did Rendel Stephen get this photograph?
Do you see what I mean? I'm battling at the

(01:14:15):
moment and going, if we're all presuming on the same
page here guys in a chat that this is the
same photograph. How the hell did Rendel Stephens get this photo?
It's such a tricky one. Either the book came out
in nineteen eighty six, So either the book came out

(01:14:38):
in nineteen eighty six, and then Joseph Andrez Epp took
a photograph from the book, but it's in black and white,
so we can discredit that because the original photograph it's
more or less in color. So I'm really scratching my
head and going, what's going on? It's the same?

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
Is that? For me?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
It looks like the same the same photograph? Would you
would you, guys? Reckon? That is more or less the same.
It's a tricky one, but I think the right photograph
has been more more contrast, so it's got more especially
like the black branches here, they kind of stand out

(01:15:22):
a bit more. So here's a tricky one. Man, I
don't know discs look the same. Hm hmm. That's always
puzzled me. It's always puzzled me this whether or not
this is the same photograph. And I've come to the
conclusion that it is the same photograph. But how did

(01:15:44):
Rendall Stevens get it? Did Rendal Stevens know Joseph andres up?
Who knows? It's all speculation.

Speaker 8 (01:15:51):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
One thing I did find out through doing research this
the Amiga disc was actually created in nineteen fifties, not
nineteen forties, okay, and Joseph Andreas Epp would say, no,
this actually was developed and designed, well, sorry, designed in

(01:16:14):
the early forties. Which this craft here is called the
V seven. This is the last discuss craft which all
four scientists got together and built this. I could play
a little clip. Actually, we've got a little clip somewhere.
I think we've got one from your first Secrets of
the third Reich. Mm hmmmmmmm. Okay, right, there's a little

(01:16:42):
clip here talking about these flying discs. Okay, so the
V seven was the discus shape craft. I just showed
you had jets instead of the circular fan propelled around
the circumference of the craft. Yes, let's go play B.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Six houndabout two. Also reported in July nineteen forty one,
work began on this Shriva Harbamol Flying Gyroscope, a jet
propelled vertical takeoff light aircraft. By the end of nineteen
forty two, the first practical tests could begin. However, there

(01:17:22):
were serious design faults in the first prototype. The same year,
doctor Rischadmite began work on a turbine driven light aircraft,
the RFC seventy. This was to be discus and not
saucer shaped. The Italian scientist Giuseppe Beluzzo soon joined this project,

(01:17:44):
followed shortly afterwards by Shriber and Harbormol. They worked together
to produce a functional, reliable light aircraft.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
So the four scientists that got together near the end
of the Wall built this V seven craft which twelve
through abojet engines around the craft actually propel it. And
beforehand there were a number of prototypes allegedly built. Like
they just said here, I mean whether or not take
it as truth or not. But the craft actually failed

(01:18:18):
and it didn't fly that well. Apparently it vibrated quite
a lot as the fan was spinning around the craft.
It produced a lot of vibrations. So they skip that
principle and use jets instead, because jets were the jet
propelled craft was the thing at the time. Really when
you look at like the especially like the V one
and V two rocket, which is pretty much the same principle.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
And so on the seventeenth of April nineteen forty five,
Richard Meter was able to report to Adolf Hitler. Today
under my direction and in the presence of three loftraff officers,
the V seven was tested in the skies above the Baltic.
The general characteristics and detainable performance of the aircraft were

(01:19:06):
as follows. The V seven was a supersonic helicopter fitted
with twelve BMW twenty eight turbo aggregate engines. During the
first test flight, it reached an altitude of seventy eight
thousand feet and on the second rose to eighty thousand feet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Over the years, I've had the trip, so yeah, that
is it. That is an excerpt form of that documentary
called UFO Secrets or the Third reich.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
The photos do look legits, and the image difference can
be explained because of the render. But did you notice
the actual craft in the distance is on the slight
different angle. Yeah, I would have to admit at I's
bring not the photograph again? Is it may It's just

(01:20:01):
been boggling my mind. It's like it looks so identical,
even though this is obviously if you're saying this is
the real for the original photograph you can see also

(01:20:22):
obviously is quite pixelated. The one on the right, which
is from the book itself, obviously it has more contrast.
But I'll tell you what got one? Where is it to?
There we go? I guess so you can see the
bump at the top here obviously with the contrast, is

(01:20:44):
going to make that a bit more thicker.

Speaker 7 (01:20:53):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
What is the boggle? Is it the same image? No,
it's uh, I believe these are which one?

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Mate?

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Sorry may I wasn't following you on that one. Just
one of the trees in it. It's the thing that
gives it away. Man, it's the it's the tree line here.
It just looks too too precise in my opinion. Oh am,

(01:21:32):
I go into yeah, there we go. Mm hmm. You
see what I mean is if you just look at
especially these two here, you got a little bit at
the top here. Either than that, they could have cropped

(01:21:55):
out the saucer itself.

Speaker 8 (01:22:02):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Could you be to do that back in back in
those days, I don't know. But the thing is he's
got the original photograph.

Speaker 8 (01:22:08):
This is it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
This is what bloody. Honestly, when it comes to Joseph
andrez Epp, I've gotta find his story is a bit
dubious because he was injured during the war as he
was flying the he was a loof offfer pilot and
he was injured. But at the same time he was
part of the German flying source of program and all that.

(01:22:31):
But then he said he wouldn't. It's so all over
the place, it doesn't really make sense. This is why
I am finding everything that he comes across. Andything that
he says is a bit dubious the regards of this.
You could say this is original. Well, he took two
of them. Actually that was the first one. As you

(01:22:54):
can see, he got trees and even got the branches there.
That's a bit more prominent. Okay, if we say we've
got that bit of the bottom there, yeah, you can
see at the bottom. So if you can find that
on yeah, it's there, you can see it. Look okay,

(01:23:17):
just have a look at the bottom part here. Okay,
and it's the same here as well. Hmm oh man,
it is. It is a mystery that is never going
to be solved. You are both wrong. It's the same
saucer in the image.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
I've looked at this for so long science evidence of fringe.
I I think I'll come to the collusion that is,
this is exactly the same photograph.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
It's got to be.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
It's who got it, who managed to get the original first?
It's it's two people I don't really trust. I mean,
we're talking about someone that is Billy Meyer here. You know,
it's glorious faker. We cand of explain the trees difference,
but not the object difference. Yeah, I don't know, man

(01:24:11):
is it's a tricky one. I think it's the same.
But anyway, it's a mystery that will never be solved.
So yeah, that is it for Joseph Andrea's up. It's
an interesting story, but I will go into more for
the details later on when I do a four analysis

(01:24:33):
into like German flying sources, because I want to talk
about rail and how naboom. In fact, i've got any
good photographs I can show mm hmm, no, I think
with one of a show, with one of a show. Yeah,
so yeah, there we go, guys. I thought, I just
want to show you the hero's hope. Oh my god, oaks,

(01:25:00):
you know what, I've got it queued up. I've got
it queued up already. But I find like there's the
like UFO footage and all that, and I thought, so,
ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is an actual,
real flying saucer and definitely not a two plate stuck

(01:25:23):
together on a piece of string.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
If you're new to uphology, you're new to yourphology. This,
my friend is Billy Meyer, the man himself, the one,
and he's got one arm, and he he had these
connections to the Palladions. That's clearly on a string. Ah dear. Yeah,
so he had communications with the Palladians that would come

(01:25:49):
down and I know suckers dick or something like that.
But he can never ever take a photograph of them.
Oh no, no he didn't. They he did take a
photograph I believe it was and dinosaurs and Mars probably
say that for another episode. But as you can see here,
guys clearly clearly fake. But what this is the good

(01:26:15):
thing about Billy Mayer, how inventive he was. Look, you
can see the car at the bottom there right. What
he would do he would blend miniature models of houses
and even trees, and he would put that to a
very close perspective to the camera itself and eventually what
it would do. He would put it in a way

(01:26:36):
where it will actually mix with the real background as
you can see here, and then he would basically have
this flying saucerer on a string, and that basically that's
what he did. He would use miniature models and he
would create these I would have to admit, right, but
talk about nineteen seventy five. Here it looked pretty bloody

(01:26:59):
good for the time. Now we've moved on and we've
had time to process this image and go, hm hmm,
it's clearly fake. It's clearly a bloody UFO and a string.
Do you really think we could see it swinging in
the wind? Look? Uh oh, here he is. As we've

(01:27:28):
got the old flying sourcer at top sory for like
destroying your brain cells her guys, Yeah, I know it's there.
I can see it. I can see it. He gets

(01:27:49):
freaked out in a minute. Yeah, as you can see.

(01:28:12):
I mean, why would he put the camera facing the branches?
He's got this beautiful landscape, but you had to film
it where branches are like right, the flying sources are
right there, just perfect in that shot. There, it's all meaning.
It's very easily orchestrated and yeah, typical Billy Meyer's fun

(01:28:37):
Oh my god, hilarious. Yeah, there you go, that's Billy Meyer.
I do apologize for destroying your guy's brain cells. To
apologize for that, right, what elst we've got here? There's
up If I'm okay, let's go to I was gonna

(01:29:16):
put TikTok on them. Terrible idea. Uh what is that one?

Speaker 8 (01:29:23):
Though?

Speaker 11 (01:29:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
There you go, what an idiot? There we go Twitter, Twitter, mate,
go about a Twitter? Yeah, there you go. All right, bookmarks.
So we moved on from Joseph andrez app and let's
move on to some Twitter news. Right you're here, mate,

(01:29:51):
I think you tagged me in this blind saucer sighting
in New York City on nine to eleven. Let's go
check this out. So we're gonna go through Twitter at
the moment and to find some interesting videos have been
collecting throughout the week on Euphology. Nothing special, but this

(01:30:13):
was talked to me on Twitter. Are ufa sighting on
nine to eleven. So I saw the.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
Buildings from the Gowana sort of plane come around smack
into the building. The second one came down the river,
the U turn hit the building, put his engines on.

Speaker 12 (01:30:33):
I says, oh, at that point, A new we're under attack.

Speaker 11 (01:30:36):
I jump off the highways and they're going to close
the tunnel. Was trying to get into the city to
get the kids out. Yeah, so I knew they were
going to close the tunnel to try to make it
to Brooklyn Bridge that was closed, and I says, oh, man,
I'll go up my Yankee Stadium, trying to get across
one of those little bridges up there.

Speaker 12 (01:30:53):
So I'm going between Brooklyn and Queens and Third Bridge.

Speaker 11 (01:30:57):
Yeah you know, but yeah, but between Brooklyn and shit,
and I'm thinking trying to call the kids phones going down.

Speaker 12 (01:31:05):
Pulling to a gas station. Delivery comes in.

Speaker 11 (01:31:09):
Guy's got all these soda boxes, soda things on the
thing he's bringing in. An Arab guy's working there, and
he's like in a bit of a panic. The credit
card machines were going.

Speaker 12 (01:31:18):
Down, so now we're gonna get gas to get out
of there.

Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
So I'm under the overhang of the gas thing. I
see a couple across the street. They stop in a
beautiful day and they're looking up like this, and they're
looking up. There's a guy on a pittyphone on the
other side of the street and he's going he's just like.

Speaker 12 (01:31:36):
This the phone and he's looking up, like what are
they looking at?

Speaker 11 (01:31:39):
Stick in my head I looked at It was a
flying sauce zune, clear as could be, dome shape with
a brow, black windows in the middle, just hovering there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
And and it was spinning.

Speaker 12 (01:31:54):
I think it was going this way, but I didn't
hear anything, but I felt it like a.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Or were like that, and uh.

Speaker 12 (01:32:03):
And we're just looking at it, me and my girlfriend
at the time, and because we were trying to get
into the city.

Speaker 11 (01:32:08):
She had to go to work. I was going to
my studio. We lived in rock Away at that time.
So I'm looking and we're looking at this thing. Everybody's
looking at it, and you know, I had to go.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
Find my kids.

Speaker 12 (01:32:19):
So you know, the people crossed the share by their
places to go, they you know, they was there.

Speaker 11 (01:32:24):
I came right overhead. I was right overhead. I had
a black dot in the middle, and they took off.
The guy put the phone down, he took off. I
got my van and I took off. Left it debt
And I'm thinking later on that night when I went back,
I said, did I see what I do?

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
And I saw that day.

Speaker 12 (01:32:44):
I was like, I was a fucking UFO. That was
a fine saucer.

Speaker 11 (01:32:48):
I was like, we didn't even think about it because
my adrenaline was going until I found my kids.

Speaker 12 (01:32:53):
Then once I was able to get through, when I
knew they hit taped up town, I was like, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
I was like, I felt like I was drawn.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Yeah, it was like, Wow, I was.

Speaker 12 (01:33:04):
Afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Yeah, crazy story. I know there were lights being seen
in the sky. Uh oh yeah right, yeah, I know.
Alien nadd had had Billy Mayer on before, not Billy Meyer,
Michael horn On before. Excuse me, Nick, please don't call
him inventive. Called him for what he is, a hope,

(01:33:28):
so a piece of shit because people like him that
people that believe this topic gets ridicled. I would agree.
I The thing is, you know, I remember seeing Billy
Meyer back in the nineties when I was a kid,
and I thought this is really good stuff. But as
you get older, and I think, I'm going to be

(01:33:50):
honest with you, right, if you're if you think that
Billy Miles stuff, Billy Meyer stuff is actually real on
your new tufology and you think it's real footage you're seeing,
I think you're a fucking idiot. Clearly it's a model
piece of plates on a piece of string. Anyone can
see that. But like I mentioned, you know, we're past
nineteen seventies now, we're on something far more complex obously

(01:34:14):
talking about AI stuff here, So I would agree he
is a hoax piece of shit, but yeah, at the
same time calling out bullshit. Yeah, but as what I'm
talking about in inventive, like he used to use the models,
but blend it in with the background, I mean back
in the I mean, I have to make it look

(01:34:34):
pretty impressive for the seventies, for the nineteen seventies. For now,
it's clearly fake. But yeah, I would agree with you
that on that one, Mate, is ata is he still alive?
Is he still alive? No way? Oh yeah, yeah, it's alive.

(01:34:58):
But yeah, I thought he died. Okay. Strange that he
hasn't come forward with any more Palladium stories and photographs
because obviously he gets caught out. It would be bloody.
But like, yeah, Billy past that now, mate, you know,
try harder, try harder. I think he runs a cult.
I wouldn't be a really surprised. Yeah, even back in

(01:35:18):
the seventies, mate, I watched a lot of documentaries on
Billy Meyer, and he did have a sort of a
cult side to him because people were just fascinated. Because
you think nineteen seventies people were fascinated with UFOs and
when you had that shitty footage and people thought it
was real, they sort of clocked onto the fact that,
oh maybe he just kind of contact Padians and stuff
like that. No, no, Nick, do you hear the gas

(01:35:44):
meter tapes on Billy? I saw a few did not
stick much gas meter tapes, So not as a typo, mate,
I'm not too sure on that one. I'll double check
that meter tapes on Billy. M Not to sure, John,

(01:36:06):
I'll I'll make a mental note of that. But yeah,
there is some Hey, I can't remember to bolus with you, mate,
not too sure on that one. Right, what we've got here,
We're gonna go back on Twitter. Oh no, I was
on Twitter. Mmmmmmmm. So yeah, when it comes to like
UFO footage, guys, nothing really much to show. I've got

(01:36:30):
some paranormal stuff. A lot of stuff is like old style, right,
So this cube like thing, I think I've might have
seen that before years ago. I mean we're talking about
twenty ten and this was taken on September the ninth,
twenty eleven. A pyramid shaped UFO was reported scene hovering

(01:36:53):
over power plant in Herbla, China. Witness describes a massive
silent projected with Jim, excuse me, giomatic structures. I've screwed
that word up emitting unusual glow. Interesting. Yeah, this was
It's a bit like the drone, not the drones. It

(01:37:16):
was just like very strange craft. Obviously it was CGI.
This has going about like twenty ten. If I find
if I find it, I'll I'll show you, guys. But
it was very very popular footage. It looked like it
looked like these huge, gigantic drones in the sky. But
we're talking about like twenty ten. Here, Oh, we got

(01:37:40):
here right, this one. This is an old footage. I've
noticed with Twitter that I've got a lot of old
footage that gets reproduced.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Excuse me, guys, Do you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Know what aircraft that is. It's like there's some sort
of stealth fighter. What to show if he is American? Right?
All Russia? Mm hmm.

Speaker 10 (01:38:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
This is clearly clearly fake, isn't it when you look
at it. This is a sort of photographs you'll find
in this book.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
It's clearly a dinner plate with some special effects on
here at the bottom of it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
The thing is with these grainy photographs, it doesn't help
the authenticity of the phoe, isn't it. It's you can say, oh,
this was taken on this specific day and this specific time.
At the same time, it's too grainy and back in
the day. You have to admit, guys, they did a
lot of faking and a lot of faking with UFOs

(01:39:06):
and there's a very clear example of that. Yeah, this
is creepy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
A picture from a hospital CTTV camera shows something standing
on top of a dying patient. Is this supernatural presence
or just a colichen and monitor? I don't know. It
looks like a flipping goblin to me chat, what do
you reckon? It's a bit bigger still like that. I

(01:39:37):
don't know. It looks like some goblin creature, doesn't it.
Nathan from the Quasum Show. As it go, Man, thanks
for being here, Bro. I want to get you on
the show at some point. I when to get some
people when you go, like Amy and you guys on
the show because I saw you when you were talking
about the JFK assassination with Amy and do you know
what that day Nathan, right, I add private work and

(01:39:59):
I Amy was going live and You're on the show.
And as soon as I put a clicks on Amy's
live show, it literally showed the JFK assassination. She showed
the whole thing. I was like, oh, let's see yell
because I literally bang is then exploded as soon as
I clicked onto it, it was I was like, oh, got,

(01:40:19):
we're onto a bloody banger here. No pun intended, but yeah,
it would be good to get on the show man
is Yeah, you, guys, seems like a good fun and
very knowledgeable as well. And guys, go check out Nathan
from The Quantum Show. Fantastic show. It deserves more praise.
Be sure, he can read and talk better than I am,

(01:40:40):
But go check out Nathan from the Quantum Show. Guys,
because we needed to support each other. And Nathan, you
would say, mate, we're both leddy censored. I would say
more than Shadow Band. There's one thing I noticed with
UFO channels, right, and I'm not going to be picky.
I know, Nathan, you've been going for a number of

(01:41:02):
years now, but I have noticed right like new like
new UFO channels not naming who they are. But they've
been doing it for like a year or two. They
don't really know uthology. But everyone steals other people's content.
Isn't it to talk about it's it's it's just the

(01:41:23):
way things are. You know. That's that's how content's created,
that's how we make content. But I noticed these channels
that have been going for a couple of years or
even a year, not naming who it is, they get
thousands of views. And I'm going, like me and you, Nathan,
we know we put effort into our shows. We have
the knowledge there are not not blowing my own trumpet

(01:41:44):
or anything like that. But at the same time, it's like,
how come we're putting the dark but these other channels
are getting thousands of views. Again, I don't want to
be like nitpicky, but it just kind of like really
pisses me off because the viewers just just stays the same, like, yeah, okay,
we may talk about like conspiracies and stuff like that,
which don't help, especially like key words with that you say.

(01:42:07):
But it just kind of like really annoys me. But Nathan,
you deserve more. You definitely deserve more viewers, mate, you
really do, honestly, because I should. I do listen. I
do listen. I just don't comment sometimes obviously want to
work in It's a bit tricky, but yeah, guys, one
the last time, go check out Nathan v quantat show.
I'll catch you on the end, mate, and yeah, trying

(01:42:30):
to help our fellow YouTube channels out, you know what
I mean. I do research, have experience, not that I'm
trying to go big, but damn yeah, yeah exactly. I mean,
We've got a lot to bring to the table, Nathan,
and it just feels not we're getting credit. I know,

(01:42:50):
I know, it's just like it's not like we deserve
the attention, but we do, just deserve for the attention
we do do. But at the same time, I just
find it's a bit like rules for thee and not
for me, you know what I mean. It's just ah,
but just got to keep going and keep pushing on
and eventually you might hit the mark sometime soon. So

(01:43:11):
but anyway, back to this photograph, looks like a goblin.
Not too sure what it could be, flip and scary. Nevertheless,
if I actually saw that on the TV monitor, probably
wake the dead more or less?

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
This okay, this is another old video footage from two
thousand and nine. Okay, I remember this clearly. Back in
the day. YouTube used to be amazing. Back in the day,
I used to wake up in the morning, you'd be
Sunday morning. I'll smoke a bunch of weed and I'll
just spend the wholiday on YouTube watching David Light Conspiracies

(01:43:43):
on you on YouTube. YouTube at all places used to
be amazing. But I remember seeing this footage and it
shows I think it's like a bowing bowing craft and
you have this. Okay, you might be fake, probably see
hold on, let's get it back here. There we go, right,
you can see this object coming towards the plane itself.

(01:44:10):
And I watched this zep and it's gone. Bear in mind,

(01:44:38):
this is two thousand and nine ten graphics, sir. Is.
When it goes up this is there, it looks a
bit too fair kire for me. Hmmm, yeah, it's a

(01:45:02):
tricky one. Fascinating nevertheless, but why was he filming that?
Probably because he saw this object flying towards it. Possibility. Possibility,
that's enough of that. It's just a strange thing in
the sky. I love my sky, phenomenous.

Speaker 10 (01:45:20):
Look at.

Speaker 7 (01:45:22):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Language that's some fucking alien ship.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
Normally, oh, look at the slope.

Speaker 8 (01:45:34):
What the fuck?

Speaker 12 (01:45:37):
That's some fucking alien ship.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Have you seen the It's like this black sort of
I know, it kind of looks like venom guys seen
the film Venom where the come board the name of
it that that black goose stuff. It's a bit like that,
but in the sky. I have seen other videos of
that which kind of looks like this. Oh yeah that
you know what. I would love to talk about this.

(01:46:02):
This is one conspiracy I've been looking into for the
past eighteen years. I find it immensely fascinating. I left
at this talking about occultism, and this is called this book.
I'll only get a cult Britain, and I don't live
too far from Gloucestershire. The eighteenth century a possession in

(01:46:24):
honor of half Goat God ran from church, ran from
the church to the woods near Payneswick House. Yeah, Glastonbury,
mate is it's got a really weird vibe. I only
live like less than an hour away from Glastonbury. I've
been there a few times. I find there's a lot

(01:46:46):
of pretentious pricks. Are there a lot of people that
just I think want to be part of a community.
But they paint their hair flipping purple. They got a
blade the shop with all their incense and almal spiritually
awaken them aware and all that. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, Matt,

(01:47:07):
but you get a lot of people like that. You
can spot the ones that are actually genuine. But there's
such a really weird vibe with Glastonbury. I quite like
Avery the Apbury which has got the massive stone circles.
I find that, but I find out more calmen. But

(01:47:27):
oh on Strokes so is that?

Speaker 8 (01:47:29):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
You Painswick? But that's definitely meet up at some point
mate if you're if you're in that neck of the woods.
But yeah, Glassonbury mate, really really is it Glastonbury of Gloucestershire. No,
it's Gloucestershire. Oh bloody idiot. Yeah, even glossa show of

(01:47:51):
Glassonbreem what it's on the same path. It's it's just
got a really weird vibe to it. But some lovely
architectural church and stuff like that. I'm going to be
doing a video soon with the missus popping the glasson
Briamare that we've got? UFO Mania does post a lot

(01:48:13):
of fake stuff. Oh this is it? This was an
interesting one. I watched a live Okay.

Speaker 12 (01:48:23):
We created a moment in history.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Right do you think this is real? Is it fake?
Or is it fake? And gay? Actually? What's his name?
John Leonard? With it John Leonard Wilson actually filmed this

(01:48:50):
on the Moon, actually landing on the Moon, so it
is is real. But some people get a bit skeptical,
which is fine, got yourwn opinions. It's all good. I
think we're a little we're hugging trees. Yeah, yeah, I
tell you there's a bloody big trees in the Gloucester
of Glastonbury. Faking gay. Yeah, absolutely make fake and gay,

(01:49:11):
especially Apollo Apollo eleven was it fourteen? I can't remember,
but this is a four blown HD version of the
Moon and all is its glory, fake and gay. Just saying,
but not long ago me and Hidden under Belly, we
did a show on like building structures on the Moon,

(01:49:33):
like towers, mushroom shaped buildings. They are like like bloody
like sat like dishes on there as well. This is
the first time you're actually witnessing four K quality of
the moon landing. Okay, I can gain nothing like John

(01:50:06):
Leonard Moon's footage. Yeah, guys, go check it out. I'm
fortunately I can't really play John Leonard Wilson's videos, but
he's actually got an actual footage of this lunar just
about landing on the Moon on here and he's taking
it from Earth with his powerful telescope. Yeah, look, guys,

(01:50:30):
I think this is real looking at John Leonard's bullshit.
I don't know, man, I don't know. I really don't know.
Too good to be true. Maybe you can tell he's
got the fish eye lens on it. Mmm, I think

(01:51:02):
I see Bigfoot. Yeah, I love to show that one, guys,
not to show on that one. Okay, serious question. Do
you trust the footage of the firefly landing? I don't know, guys,

(01:51:23):
it's up to you. It's swamp gas. I don't know, man,
it's I don't trust anything NASA comes out with. I
don't trust anything that If you look at SpaceX what
they managed to do, and man, that rocket that is
pretty damn impressive, isn't it. It's pretty damn impressive. But

(01:51:48):
whether or not you think that's real that footage we
just saw is in time up to you. I'm not
gonna judge you for it. Oh should we saw that?
Gone and bit conspiracies that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:00):
You call the statue of liberty, it's holding the torch
the torque statue call the statue of liberty. It's holding
the torch, the torch of illumination. Which is the Promethean
torch of Freemasonry. And if you go to the Statue
of Liberty.

Speaker 13 (01:52:15):
You'll see a bronze plaque inside saying that this was
given to the government of America by the French Grand
Orient Tempo Masons, and it is a symbol of Grand
Orient Freemasonry in America, the holder of the light, and
that's exactly the.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Same torch that is carried during the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
It is the.

Speaker 12 (01:52:37):
Torture Freedom.

Speaker 13 (01:52:38):
No, that's the tort of the illumination illuminations. And also
that on the back of the Liberty dime. On the
back of the old Diame in America there was the
fasci which you look in at the Encyclopedia a Dictionary,
you look at the word fascism. You'll see that the
symbol for world fascism was a bundle of sticks, a

(01:52:58):
bundle of rods with a hatchet that was on the
back of the well.

Speaker 12 (01:53:01):
You see that on each side of the speaker's podium
in Congress.

Speaker 13 (01:53:05):
Oh, absolutely absolutely, and it's also the symbol for the
United States Senate is the fare Shi. But the point
I want to make is that that was on the
old Dive there on the new Dives, you will see
it has been transplanted a torch instead of the old
fairshi because fascism was used at one time to prepare

(01:53:25):
the world for the New World Order.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
Now the new World Order is in place.

Speaker 13 (01:53:30):
That's why on the dollar bill that says Novasosa Glorium
is new order of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
God bless. Jordan Maxwell passed away a couple of years ago.
Absolutely devastated he when he passed. Yeah, people a bit
skeptical about Jordan Maxwell. I know he's gone into especially
like Christianity and stuff like that, and trying to find
out where the old symbolisms come from. I mean, for instance,
when you're talking about here about the about the torch,

(01:53:59):
one can say the light bearer or Lucifer, so to speak.
These symbolisms are absolutely everywhere. If you go into the statue,
I say the light bearer, Yeah, light bearer, which is
otherwise known as Lucifer. But if you go throughout England,
it's very well known that there is all these symbolisms everywhere.

(01:54:23):
I mentioned it on the Last Life Show that you
have all these like acorns like statues all over England,
especially like old buildings like from the seventeenth and eighteenth century.
As I started to know about the occult, obviously not
about the German occult, but the other occult philosophies that
go around like in America for the past god knows

(01:54:44):
how many years, you start to notice very reoccurring things. Basically.
Another aspect I can remember seeing is that the twenty
twelve London Olympics. So I got to show you this

(01:55:06):
twelve London Olympics stadium stadium, okay, and I noticed that
there were like these triangles. You know's up because it's

(01:55:27):
literally in your face, especially now when it comes to
like pop stars and stuff like that. They are literally
doing like the devil signs that they're not hiding it anymore.
They are literally not hiding it. And what you have here, guys,
so I can't blow it up even bigger, but all
surrounding this is the stadium that was built for the
London Olympics back in twenty twelve. Okay, there's supposed to

(01:55:49):
be a bloody alien invasion is supposed to happen on
that day. But if you have a little look, I mean,
it's just it's so clearly obvious. You've got these pyramids, structures,
going all the way around as even capped off at
the bloody top as well. They are not hiding it
at all. They are literally not hiding it. So these
symbolisms are it was a better phi agraph of it.

(01:56:10):
These symbolisms are everywhere. How many is there?

Speaker 8 (01:56:12):
One?

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Two, three? I was fourteen, fourteen or thirteen or something
like that. But yeah, as you can see these symbolisms,
people say, oh, no, you're just thinking too much out
of the box. You're too much of a conspiracy theorist.
It's like, no, no, Obviously, the people that design these
buildings they put it into they put the occult practices

(01:56:35):
into their structures. There's another one, look like flipping pyramids
going around it, you know, And yeah, okay, nothing happened
during twenty twelve, but I think probably a consciousness change happened.
But yeah, they're literally not hiding it. They are not
hiding it at all. And that's my thing I noticed

(01:56:55):
with that. I was like, oh, yeah, it's flipping like pyramids,
like structures going around the moon, not moon the Olympics.
Whilst we've got here. Uh uh, okay, this is interesting.

(01:57:15):
So you've got this big orb that lands in someone's
garden front garden. Oh there we go. Sorry, guys, I
watched this. I know Mick West is going the flair.

(01:57:40):
It's a flare, idiot. Oh, it's just like not catching
anything on fire. What's a flair doing in a residential
area anyway? Or no, I was going to say Chinese lanting,
but Chinese lanting and tends to drop altitude when the

(01:58:04):
flame is out and not on. And this is glowing
like a bitch. It's another one here as well. Mm hmm.

(01:58:45):
You see it descending down, but you don't see it
what happens afterwards? This is it so looks see what
it is?

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
Asked?

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Disappointing. I'd like to see where this thing goes? Does
it dis in the grate? Does it actually shoot off
into the sky? I'd sell, But it's fascinating with Nevertheless,
this was a drone footage that was like the size
of a car. And yes, the drones are still going

(01:59:30):
on at the moment in New Jersey, whether or not
you believe the official explanation. It's something to do with
surveillance or something like that. It's something to do with China.
Is art to sell Man, could be a drone of
very bright light, black and white security cam also not
hearing any sounds. Yeah, it was silent made. There was

(01:59:51):
no audio with that one I just showed. I mean
it's a bloody big drone. Because there were sightings of
these drones like size of cars, are absolutely huge. But
I'm not believing the official explanation that these are FAA

(02:00:14):
approved drones. I mean, what are they there for that need?
That's the thing. I need an explanation of what were
they doing my personal opinion, probably looking for flipping portals.
I don't think we've heard the last of the Miami
aliens in the war. No, I did this kind of
shit on the idea, but now kind of thinking like,

(02:00:35):
potentially are these like portals opening up and these drones
are trying to survey it? I mean, why would the
flipping portal open up in their bloody Miami shopping mall.
I mean, it's good, fine, that sounds like an awesome
time to honest of you. But maybe these drones are
there to survey something that's crazy, isn't it. Whilst we

(02:01:04):
call air bumble firge bumble. First, you're going to some
power normal stuff? Is it across deck?

Speaker 8 (02:01:14):
No, it's not across what is that like that said?

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Is that it's a looks like a dude in a suit,
isn't it?

Speaker 8 (02:01:32):
It looks like Iron Man?

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
What the heck?

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
Jonathan?

Speaker 10 (02:01:42):
What in the world that might be the super people malodaccians.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
I don't know nothing, but I know Maldakians young all.
You know when you when you guys see them, it
kind of looks like a human, isn't it. You know,
the head and the arms, bit of paradolia. There is glowing,
It's got an aura behind it. It was definitely giving
off something. It's a balloon. Is a weather balloon? You ideot?

(02:02:35):
I know what weather balloons look like. I filmed a
weather balloon and there's nothing like that. That's interesting, man,
I would love to see stuff like that. I'm a
constant skywasher. Well, every time I've got the old opportunity
to film the guys, or especially on a clear sky
day that you've been having for the past week, I
tend to look up. I don't really see anything like.
It's a bit like ghost hunting, guys. You're not going

(02:02:57):
to get your ghosts and an experience to be a
big one when the first time you go. It might do,
it might do, but through my experience, you just gotta
keep doing it, keep going, keep going, keep skywatching this
that like honestly, just don't stop, especially like like paranormal
stuff as well. You know, just keep going. Eventually you
will find something. You will be rewarded. All right, let's

(02:03:21):
bring up last. Let's do some paranormal stuff. It's pretten
some paranormal goes photographs and then we'll finish up. All right, did.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
Both? There we go. So this is from paranormal sightings
on Facebook. I do have Facebook up and running as this,
I've been quite lazy. Even my mum has certainly like
loads of videos. I can show a bit conspiracy stuff,
but probably leave it for the next time. But yes,
if this is on paroral sightings on Facebook has been uploading.

(02:04:00):
The public can upload anything they think is actually paranormal.
But it's good to get people's opinion. It's got nearly
half a million people on this page.

Speaker 13 (02:04:08):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
The owner of this photo shared that she was sitting
at her kitchen table having a snack when she received
a emotion alert from the monitor she had set up
in her dad's room watching over him to his health.
When she checked the footage, she was stunned. It was
her mother, who had already passed, seemingly checking on her father,

(02:04:34):
who passed away not long after. Perhaps it could come
to guide him home. That's crazy, isn't it that. Remember
I was mentioned about paradola. You've got to say that
in consideration. Is the same with EVPs as well. It's
all that kind of sounds like this kind of sounds
when it's like, you know, it's can't really hear anything,

(02:04:57):
so you're trying to make out a sentence from something
that sounds like static. Same goes for these photographs here.
It does look like as an outline of somebody. It
really does. Obviously with the head here you can see
the body these monitors, i'd ask al Man. Yeah, it's
nice to see you, and yeah, pop back at its time, Bruv.

(02:05:18):
It's good to see you, and yeah, thanks for chiming
in as much appreciated. Have a good weekend, and yeah,
I hope you catch your next Friday, Brov. Nice to
see you. So paranormal ghosts, that is one thing I'm
more on the true side than I believe in aliens.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
Look, my.

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Thoughts on aliens has changed a lot. I think the
more intimentional spiritual beings. Spirituality has to be taking consideration
in uphology, especially aliens. That's one thing I've I've become
more true to myself of thinking, right, no, there's something.
Everything seems to be connected, even like Bigfoot and stuff
like that, even fairies. Yeah, okay, I'm going to go there. Yeah,

(02:06:02):
I know it sounds a bit like Ooopy Spooky's but
nevertheless it is definitely I think it's all connected. We
need to go into that at some point, but nevertheless,
I think there's definitely some sort of apparition.

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
Now on.

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
This photograph, this was a this This is my great
grandfather's grave with my uncle Pete, my grandmother's brother and
his wife. The cemetery in Queens, New York. I'm pretty
sure it's Carliver something cemetery. Yeah, if you need to

(02:06:39):
this channel, I can't read that properly, which I've just retarded,
which is the largest cemetery in the US. So I've
been unable to locate the actual headstone itself myself. But
this is real untouched photo from my dad's photo album.
Check this out with this, there you go. Remember I

(02:07:04):
was talking about like the Black Mass. I remember This
was taken by film camera as well, which is like
the best. Yeah, it's one of the best photographs or
for any pipe paranormal really to honus with you, I

(02:07:26):
find today's mobile phones, today's up to date cameras. I
think they kind of blur out orbs anything spiritual in
my opinion, just me on that one. But if you
wanted to do any ghost hunting, go get an old camera.
I'd like to use film again, but you haven't got
the bloody process of that, you know, get it developed

(02:07:46):
and everything. So yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting, isn't it
That black mass there, it's quite a bit of a
white is that? Can I see something in there's all that?

Speaker 8 (02:07:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
Or just me? Nevertheless, it could be a strap from
the camera, you never know, but fascinating. Nevertheless, write this
one here. This was on October thirtieth, twenty eighteen, round
quarter past six in the evening. I was inspecting the

(02:08:23):
footpath on the estate when he noticed a woman standing
in a river near Blah Blah Bridge. Concerned that she
might be in distress, he called out to her, letting
her know he was nearby. However, he soon realized that
something was off. She didn't seem human. As he watched

(02:08:44):
in shock, the figure appeared and faded and merged into
the river. Acting quickly, he managed to capture a photo
before she vanished completely. Check this out on that.

Speaker 11 (02:08:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
Remember I was talking about especially we go to photographs
if the whole photograph is actually blurry. Excuse you, guys,
god coughlin bidn't moment. Yeah, if you notice that with
blurry photographs, you tend to like anything that's in the

(02:09:20):
middle will be blurry as well. However, this looks quite
clear to a certain degree. This was twenty eighteen. It's
definitely an outline of a person there. Yeah, chuck out
seems to be very common occurrence. You've got the darkness

(02:09:44):
and then you've got the white as well. So whether
or not there's actually good and evil behind that, it's
a tricky one, but that nevertheless, really really good photograph.
This is a scary one discovered in the window and
old photo or of loved ones revealing details unnoticed until now.

(02:10:08):
Paradilia going out the window here see your face through that?
Mm hmm. Yeah, a tricky one. As soon as you
start going into further detail goes a bit blurry. So
it's kind of hard to look out. There's another one.
The white mass could tell there's a face there, definitely

(02:10:28):
a human appearance, whether or not. So probably some one's
probably smoking weed or something like that, and a bit
of a weed gown to smoke. It a sort of
gone up into the wall. That guy's having a cigarette there,
so you can clearly see. So you've got to take
that consideration, because that's one thing I've noticed, especially when
conversation of your breath that comes out on a cold
winter's night. And I've done so many ghosts hunting at night.

(02:10:51):
Obviously do it at night, and I noticed when the
breath conversation missed just about hits the camera even for
a distance away, it can actually still pick it up.
So again, the conversation from the breath, even like a
cigarette smoke being like waves, you know, be very distinctive.
This is quite I always say distinctive. I would say

(02:11:16):
is quite. I don't know. It could be whatever it
wants to be. Interesting, Yeah, is one that's definitely not smoke,
could be could well be right slow shutter speed. I
don't think guys've ever heard that. So basically, if you
want to lighten up a photograph. What you do is

(02:11:37):
that you put the shutter speed to a lot a
low setting, so the camera you've got to have your
camera on a tripod, and then when you take the photograph,
it will basically light everything up. So this could be
taking that night or in the dark, and this can
actually be lit up through the shutter speed. But if
you're standing and you're moving in shot, it will get

(02:12:00):
this sort of effects. It will be a very blurry effect.
But again it is why there's no description to this
is why did they take the picture here? Probably because
they sent something was in their presence, possibly but definitely
oh my common excuse me, le's you, but you can
definitely tell there's something there. I love photographs like this,

(02:12:22):
I really do because people say, oh, no, you're just debunking.
It's like no, Like through my experience, through doing ghost hunting,
you get to understand, you know, what potentially can be
easy to be explained or something that can't be explained.
I mean, I've got loads of photo well I've got
a few photographs that cannot be explained, but with this

(02:12:44):
it can but cannot be. But nevertheless, really really good.
Last but not least, the owner of this photograph blah
blah blah blah. We visit the blah blah last weekend
for the night tour. Whilst reviewing the photo we took,
my father in law spotted this, could it be one
of the wolf Rod children? For that proper facing that

(02:13:18):
I say that phone cameras don't pick up any ghosts
or anything like that. But I think I'm talking shit
on that one, because all these photographs were more or
less taken on phone cameras, isn't it. Yeah, that's crazy, man,
look at that. Yeah, if I saw that in real life,

(02:13:38):
I'll be like hell no, hell no, sort that right.
I think that's it. I think that's it for the
paranormal and I think this could chet my notes one
more time. I don't think I've missed anything out. Uh yeah,
that is it. That is it, guys.

Speaker 10 (02:13:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
I have been all over the place today with ly stream.
I I'm still I don't I don't want to like
talk about my weaknesses, but I still bloody struggle with
reading and at least getting things across. It's kind of weird, guys,
when you've got the camera with you and I've got
you guys in chat. Yeah, there's twenty seven people watching,
but it's it's still like there's like pressure. I just

(02:14:16):
tend just to fuck up like so much, and my
my mod, my mind wanders. I screw my words up
as well, which is a very common occurrence for me.
But it's a learning curve, guys, a learning curve, but
just trying to keep you guys entertained the best I can.
I know, back on Nailien and it's the old shows
we stuck down. Oh no, you did branch you know,
in and out of like different topics. But this is

(02:14:37):
why I need like more people on the show to
talk with. It's like we're mead hitting together, you know.
It's a great laugh and you can speak for hours.
I need to get Nathan from the Quantum Show on
the on the show as well, sort of branch out
a bit. So yeah, again, apologies for the mishaps. Is
it a stream mobs do really weird? I'm paying forty

(02:14:58):
your quid for this and it's my move to obs.
I'm not too sure. I'm so used to streamyard because
I can just do stuff like that, you know, I mean,
anyone like that and in that penis control. So yeah,
all right, guys, I'm going to leave it there. I'll
be back next week for another live show, and if
you did like what you see, please like and subscribe.

(02:15:19):
It'd be much appreciated and be best. Like I said,
back next week on Friday for another live show. I'm
not too sure we're going to talk about, but being hidden,
we'll be back on Wednesday. I'm going to be talking
about stargate and the war in Iraq and the mysteries
behind that because the Americans. What a lot of people
don't know is that they eluded a lot of museums

(02:15:41):
looking for something specific and I'm going to talk about
now something really crazy. And there were persistent rumors whether
or not, so dam Hussein actually found an old, ancient
stargate system and that is the reason why they went
into a rack. It's just a theory, but we're going
to go into it on Wednesday. Be this Wednesday on

(02:16:02):
Hitting the Underbelly's channel, and I might talk about it
on this show as well. So that is pretty much it.
Let's just say good night to chat s Ammur. Thanks
for being here. Corbell's cat Sheep pop up I think
he's gone now, but yeah, thanks for being here. Science

(02:16:22):
Fringe I do appreciate you. But Bur Nathan for Quantum Show.
If you're still here, thanks and being here. Brother John Strokes,
much appreciated. And Mark Chee if you're still here, thanks
for being here, John Scott, and I think that is everyone.
I think that is it going down one more time? Yes, oh,

(02:16:45):
thank you, much appreciated. I do appreciate everyone being here.
So if you like what you see, please like a
subscribe It would be much appreciated. It'll have the channel
as well, especially hearing that like button as well. That
would be a good help as well. So again, yeah,
back next week for another show. Keep you all up
at the date with the news, information on your phos,

(02:17:07):
the paranormal, etcetera, etcetera. So remember until next time, always
remember they're watching you, watching us, watching them seeing it.
Soon go check out The Boys the Day Conspiracy podcast

(02:18:17):
on Spotify, Apple and Podbeam. Mind of the Friday because
reptilians don't take days off. I have a good weekend, guys,
See you next Friday.

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