8/1/25 - Mark Lamb

Mark Lamb joins The Anchormen

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Now it's time for the Anchorman Podcast with Matt Yates
and Dan Paul. What up everybody, Thanks for tuning in
on a Friday once again to the Anchor RAM podcast.
Hopefully enjoyed Matt's episode last night. As always, the other
anchor man here at Oa n Roddley Lewis alongside with
me here. One of these days, we've got to get

(00:29):
Chanelle Rhon agreed, the other anchor woman that does the
evening prime time line up here, right, it's you than me,
then Matt than Chanell. We can just cross that out
and put w above it or something and have her
on for the Nina. She's busy though she is. She's
busy working her law degree. Yes, talk about a smart cookie,
raising kids, and oh, by the way, hosting an hour

(00:51):
primetime talk show for five nights a week and a
very good show. She's awesome. Can't high enough about Chanel,
her husband, family, great, great people. So we'll do that soon.
I actually had some requests for that. You always put
that out there at the end of the show, saying
if you have ideas on who we should bring on,
bring them on. I saw lots of lady requests, really, right,
Laura Logan. We did that one, Megan Kelly, I'm working

(01:12):
on it. I heard you. We should bring Chanel rhon on. Yeah.
Maybe it's because there's so much Testostero, because it's the
anchor men. They want to see more women.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, well, and she's I mean, she's a primetime talk
show host and she's been with the company for a
long time, long time, broken a lot of important stories
about years.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
And laptop story. Yes, I was just in the Big
Boys offices earlier today and I forget what came up,
but it was something about, well, we're talking about Russia
collusion hoax and all the new files out there, and
we'll get to that with our guest tonight. I'm sure
he'll want to talk about it because he's prior law enforcement.
But we were discussing about how everyone colluded. Now we're learning.
Thank you, Tulsa Gabbert, thank you John Ratcliffe, we're learning.

(01:50):
And cash Buttel and thanks by the way to the
quiet whistleblower who left those papers in a burn bag
at the FBI and didn't burn them. Thank you. Oh
you're doing it on purpose, because I highly doubt they
forgot running out the door. Zero chance.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I would forgot to shred those by mistake, right,
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I would say that's a whistleblower who didn't have a
big enough Khanes to actually blow the whistle, but said
what they did was wrong. To Trump, I'll just leave
these behind over here into this desk in the burn
bag where comy and these guys told me to burn it,
but I didn't burn it.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, the fact they survived this long, that's well, well yehn,
Well you saw the shredding trucks.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Remember when the shredding trucks were out front?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. And we back to Chanel, so we were talking
about the whole Russia collusion hoax, and now we know
it was one big ass hoax and from Obama to
the DNC, to the intelligence community to Hillary, all of them,
the Steel dossier, fake crab. And it appears that they
went into manro A Lago looking for documents that would
have proved it, and they thought Trump took them. Wow,

(02:46):
that's why they raided his house. See, I knew it wasn't. Oh,
Trump's got some documents about the Saudis or China and
there leave behind. I'm telling you, they thought he had
the docks that proved Obama, Hillary and all them colluded
for the Russia hoax. And they thought he was going
to take him and use him. Wow, that's why they
raided his freaking house. Anyway, we'll get to that guy.
But Chanelle, Wow, back in twenty twenty, I think we

(03:09):
centered nineteen twenty. It was twenty. We went over to
Ukraine and we verified with Rudy the contents of the
laptop from Hell that everybody back in twenty was saying
fake information, disinformation. You an, you're colluding with Russia and
the Trump campaign. We're like, I believe read between the lines. No,

(03:31):
we weren't. We were being journalists and Chanelle was being
an amazing one and broke that story. And of course
now today five years later, look at what we Well.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
He does go to show there's a lot of risk
and being a real journalist, especially these days with this
massive intel, all these alphabet agencies, the NSA, the FBI,
the CIA. There's a war on truth in this country,
and you have to be willing to fight in that,
knowing that it could lead to some messy situations as complicated,
they will go after you. It's really but I mean,
the American people deserve to know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Hell, yes they do. And you know what we need.
We need more law men like our guest tonight, who
have those boys or girls, males or females. I just
like to say this, have the brass hardware to actually
want to tell the truth to the American people. And
the problem is, I think some people get bribed if

(04:24):
you will, while they're in I think some just worry,
and I get it for good reason. We're about losing
their jobs, worried about becoming a target themselves, right, and
then some of them actually believe the ideology. Let's be real.
There are some FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF you know, even
law enforcement local. There are some people that wear the
badge that are crazy liberals and they believe in the crap.

(04:45):
I don't think the majority of people that wear a
badge and a gun and take that oath are liberals,
because I don't know how you could, in today's society
attach yourself to the liberal Democrat movement and then say, oh,
by the way, I'm a law man, a law woman,
I stand for law and order because your party sure
as hell does not.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
No, it's the party of illegal offare schemes at this point,
and mass censorship and mass illegal immigration and giving puberty blockersky.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Guard, no rally, go get goll it.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I just wonder what happened. I mean, they used to
be so reasonable, and I was never a Democrat, but
you could talk to them, you could debate, you could
be friends with them. And now it's just like sick.
They were Americans. Yes, we're all Americans. Yes, you could
talk to them back in the day, Riley, Right.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I always joke and say they're Kennedy Democrats, right, because
I'm a little older than you, and my grandmother raised me,
who was a lot older than me. And I remember
this is the seventies, eighties, early nineties, small town northwest Ohio.
Grandma might tease about a Democrat Catholic uptown, but she
never got nasty and talked a bunch of whatever. And
she's sure as heck at the you know, local church,

(05:49):
pot look would sit down and chat with that Catholic liberal. Absolutely,
because we all have the same things in common, like, Hi, Hi,
we're Americans. Hi, we want to border. How we want
safe streets and communities, good schools that actually educate, that
don't indoctrinate big freaking difference. We don't want endless wars
like you could. This is what I always said, besides guns, unions,

(06:12):
and abortion. Yep, that's three. I could probably find seven more.
Thirty forty fifty years ago you would agree with the
Kennedy Democrat on right.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Fast forward to today.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
So you can't find the one or two barely.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Is there any common ground left? Do you think? Because
even even let's talk about just being proud to be
an American, all these polls that are coming out show
that ninety five percent of Democrats are ashamed to be Americans.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
They don't even want to be here, right. I wish
they would self support then. But still, I mean, yeah,
go with the illegals, bye bye.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
But you do have to wonder is there anything left that's.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
A good point hold on. I'm thinking I'm one thing. Well,
we can't agree on no boys and girls' rights, we
can't agree on the border. We can't agree on how
to make a capitalist economic society work, because we believe
one way. They want to hand out crap socialism correct,
They want indoctrinate and they want to defund police.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
They like political violence that like fire bombing people's teslas,
they like law fair.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I mean, here's the deal. If you're talking about the
political leadership, both sides sometimes want endless wars because the
deep state and of course the military industrial complex. But
I would say you could probably find some Democrats left
where we would all go, we don't want any more
endless wars and dying. That's probably the only one. So
something that massive we can agree on. Let's not kill
a bunch of people. Other than that, the Democrat Party

(07:29):
of today is bat crazy. And with that, let's bring
our guests, which is why we need. Let me do
a better intro, which is why we need good law
abiding law and order constitutional lawmen, which this guest dedicated
the better part of his adulthood life to helping keep

(07:52):
his neighborhood safe. Now he's on a new journey after
he tried politics for a hot second and he found
out that sucked. I can relate. I ran, as you know,
for Congress back in twenty eighteen, and I went out
for you hard. Just yeah, and they light about me
on both sides, Republicans and Democrats. A matter of fact,
the Republicans light about me worse than the primary AnyWho. Wow.

(08:13):
Without further ado let's bring on our friend former Pinal County,
Arizona sheriff. And look at him, as Trump would say,
straight out of Central Casting, look at him. He's so handsome,
he's got a beautiful goatee, that big hat. He's chug duck,
rides a host, carries a gun. Sheriff Mark Lamb, former
Sheriff Mark Lamb from Arizona. Mark, Nice to see your brother.

(08:34):
How you been Damn brother?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I love you and Riley's great to be on with
you too, And I'm glad you guys transitioned back into
a good intro as far as not leaving introing me
right after all the crazy liberal stuff, because that is
not who I am. But yes, brother, thank you for
having me on. I admire both of you because, like
you said, I love people that are not afraid to

(08:56):
tell the truth, and you guys have been doing that
at all for a long time and I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yep, we just celebrated on July fourth, Uh were we on?
Twelve years? Thirteen years year, twelve years we've been on
the air now, and so that was a heck of
a birthday. We got to tip our hats to the
Herring family especially mister h Robert Herring Sr. Who just
decided I'm going to start a conservative network twelve years
ago and look at us today. They tried to put

(09:22):
us out of business. Mark And now, as you saw
earlier this week, President Trump actually truth. Let me read
it real quick, please do Yeah? Yeah, yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Can I read it there, Buddy Bright early this morning.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I want to, I want to. I want to brag
oen is making a huge com no huge, a huge
comeback with millions of new viewers. Congratulations Ton and all
those who worked so hard to get you there. Donald J. Trump,
thank you awesome, mister.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well deserved, and Dan, you're a big part of that.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
You know.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Look, I know it's.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Probably not easy for guys, you know, Anchorman with a
with a with a lot of popularity there. I'm sure
there was probably many offered to move to a different place.
But you I know, I don't know as much about Riley,
we we've done interviews together.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
But I know you, Dan, I know that you have
been loyal to the family, the hero and family in
LA and so I think that is directed large in
part to you and Chanelle and so many other people
that have been at the Ethic Network for a long time.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So thank you who goes to you that that goes
out to you.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, we didn't waiver beyond that.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
He's can I say a recovering mainstream media newsman, I'm
like about recovering what now? He's seen the rot and
like many other people around here who left legacy media
because they saw that industry just falling apart.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
We have several of those folks. We do a lot
of Spella on the news side, Alicia. On the news side.
They were in local affiliate news working for I think
the CBS affiliate here in San Diego during the COVID pandemic,
and they saw the BS marks like you me, Riley,
and said I'm done with mainstream media.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yep, and they can recovering mainstream media. He's a recovering
politician like myself. You know, like you, Dan, I guarantee
you you're the same way. I'm not a politician, like
I always tell people, I'm a patriot who loves God, family, freedom,
and the Constitution.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I left a job that I loved, being sheriff.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I took the chance to run for the US Senate
not because I'm a politician, but because I thought that
Washington d c in this country needed people that were
going to tell you the truth and people that were
grounded in American values and principles and not afraid to
stand up for those. And so I ran for the
US Senate. You know, I didn't win the race, but

(11:40):
I can't say that I lost. I mean, I certainly
hasn't hurt me or my brand, and.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I you know, I.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Don't miss it.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I miss the politics.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And well, listen, Mark, you stayed true to yourself. You
ran a good, clean campaign. You didn't get down in
the weeds and dirty, and you didn't win. I did
the same. I didn't. I didn't get down in the weeds.
I didn't take money from a bunch of big, powerful
a holes where I have to say what they want
me to say. And I got my butt kicked in
the primary. And guess what, who cares? I learned a lesson,
just like you learned. And you know, before we take

(12:13):
a big step back and learn Sheriff Lamb's history, what
is the lesson that you learned from it? And is
it that you'll never go back into politics or might
you try it again? Now?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Look, I think I think the country still needs more
cowboy hats and belt buckles in Washington.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
DC veterans.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And it needs more lawman and more people that understand
and value the rule of law and then aren't afraid
to tell the people the truth even when it's not easy.
We need more honor. A hounter is doing what is right,
no matter what the consequence is. So I'd be lying
to say that if I wouldn't think that I would,
I may end up back in politics.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
We're working on some family projects, building some businesses, launching
a couple right now. Just had another book to drop today,
ten cents in your Life when your shift ends and
your life begins. So we got a lot of things
going on. We're looking at buying a ranch in Tennessee.
I know I'm encapsulating a hell of a lot right now.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Or is this going to be another problem?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
We're going to try to keep our house here, you know,
we're working on making both the places work, and I
want to keep here because I'm not sure if I'm
done with politics on it yet, but uh, but.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
For now I'm okay with being out of it. It's uh,
it's it's tough.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
You done on the badge and gun forever? Because I
like you as a shot.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I don't know if I'm done with that forever either.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
You know, look, I'm probably more inclined to go back
and run for sheriff somewhere as opposed to.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Being in politics.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I made a run at the US Senate because I
thought the border was the biggest issue, and I thought
that we needed somebody with experience and somebody who knew
how to deal with the border issue. I thought that
I would have been the most knowledgeable senator in Washington,
d C. As it related to the border, to drug trafficking,
human trafficking. And I tried to run on my experience
and my qualities and my talents, and like you said,

(13:59):
it didn't, you know, And that wasn't what we're looking forward.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
At the end of the day. That's all you can say.
But wait a minute, you're telling me Chuck Schumer doesn't
know much about the borders.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
You let me get my let me hold on, let
me get my glasses.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
In the uh No, if that idiot steps up there
one more time and sticks his footness, I meant.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
How does he get vote?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Just the simple way he wears his glasses off the
edge of his nose is enough for me to not
vote for that guy. But then you take this, you
take his wacky politics. But the look, the fact that
all the Democrats stick together on every issue tells you
they're not driven by principle. They're driven by politics. And
that is a dangerous thing to have in America.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
And what we're.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Experiencing in this country is not it's because the people
that are so driven by politics, they no longer can
have a civil conversation about principles because they've given up
their principles and they only care about politics. And right
now they are Politics is the politics of hating President
Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, well, and hating America, like Riley said at the
beginning tonight, Hating American citizens because they're favoring the illegals
over us, Hating our way of life because they want
to turn us into a socialist nation. Yes, hating white people,
even though a lot of them are white liberals, right,
calling anybody that's a white conservative, you're a racist, you're

(15:25):
a fascist, you're a Nazi.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean to that point.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Dan, after the Sydney Sweeney ad.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
For American Eagle the other day, nice, you.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Go and look at my wife saw the post and
my wife doesn't really get into the political stuff very often.
We went to American Eagle yesterday and back loves an
American Eagle, and then my wife did a post and
we took one of those crazy liberal, unattractive liberals. By
the way, they're probably more mad, and it's always white
people complaining for the other races. It's not like the

(15:57):
other races. These are the white people calling each other fascist.
But we went and did a video and took one
of the negative audios from one of those very unattractive
ladies or whatever, and we overlay it with my wife
walking with the bag in slow mo and my wife
has blonde here, blue eyes. Look. I just I'm proud

(16:19):
of who I am and my heritage, and I don't
think that's racist or bad.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
No.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I expect everybody to be proud of who they are.
And I'm exactly what God wanted me to be. So
I'm not gonna make apologies or excuses, nor am I
going to disparage my god given traits that he sent
me here with. So these people are nuts. They'll find
anything to hate you for exactly, and it's a sad

(16:46):
place to be in this country.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I call them lib cards and you're right. Nine out
of ten of every one of the videos on x
on TikTok, any social media platform that's been freaking out
about the American Eagle ad and Sidney Sweeney, the white
actress in the jeans, they're nine out of ten are
white women out there complaining? And it's like, look, we
get you want to self hate, that's fine, go ahead,

(17:07):
you're a miserable person, but don't call everybody that's white
a racist. And I agree with you, Mark, Why can't
we get back and you allude to this to the
beginning as well, Be proud Americans. Be a proud black American,
Asian American, Hispanic American. By the way, note I ended
everything with American. Okay, put our flag up? How about

(17:27):
USA for the win? Thanks. By the way, these awesome
shirts from Grunt Style. I always have to give them
a plug. They have kick ass shirts.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I went to the grunt Style story yesterday to you
did this one.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's a grunt Style. They put flowers, grenades and knives
and knives and butterflies, uh huh, and butterflies and bullets because.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
You need bullets, knives and grenades with your butterflies and flowers.
I love these guys, but it works.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
It works, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So on this show, Mark way different than when you
only get five six, seven, eight minutes on the talk
show and we're focused in, you know, hyper focused on
one issue usually like immigration. This is where we spend
four five minutes to an hour getting to know the guest.
So now you got to open up, big boy, because
I don't even know this stuff about you, and we
do this with every guest. You're not special. We want

(18:12):
to know background. So you got to tell us where
the guy under the hat was born raised, give us
a brief little thing on schooling, and then how you
got to become a sheriff. So fill us in. I
love it.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I was telling Riley before you guys where you got
to the studio. I was telling him before we got
online that I love this because usually we're just hitting
talking points and we're trying to encapsulate it into a
thirty forty five second answer.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
So I love this.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
This what you guys are doing with this podcast. Sheriff
Mark Land was born and raised in Hilo, Hawaii. I
know I don't look like it. I was born and
raised on the Big Island. When I was eleven, we
moved to the Philippines. My dad was not a military,
he was a businessman, and so he loved international business.
I moved to the Philippines when I was eleven, and

(19:00):
then we moved back to Arizona, where my dad was from.
And my family on both sides is kind of pioneers
of Arizona. I'm actually a descendant of Aid of the
occupants of the Mayflower. So when we talk about Native Americans,
I think, how far do you have to go back
to qualify as a Native American?

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Because my family's been in this country for.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Over fourteen I mean, wow, And is anybody.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Really native to any land? Like we're all that came
from somewhere at some point. But I digress.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And then we moved for that one go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah. And when I was in Panama, or when I
was in high school, we moved to Panama. I was
actually in Panama during Operation just Cause saw the whole thing,
experienced all of that. That's when Panama and Bay or
the United States invaded Panama removed Noriega. And then I
served a mission for my church in buen Osiitis, Argentina.

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So by the time I was twenty one, I'd only
lived in the continental United States for a handful of years,
but my parents raised us with a deep love and
appreciation for this country.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Right there. And my first.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Book, I wrote, American Sheriff, Traditional Values in a modern world.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
It's probably over my shoulder, right there.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Somewhere I see it.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
The first chapter is Welcome to America, and I talk
about just how beautiful America is. I've spent a lot
of time other places, and no matter how beautiful they are,
the day you get back to America, you want to
kiss the ground that you walk on, that you're because
the America is still the greatest country.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
In the world.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
For what interrupt with? But step back to the best
country in the world.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Step back and tell folks, because I think this is
what's missed. So in twenty one years, you spent less
time in this country. However did that teach you seeing
how other countries operate? And I think that's where some
ungrateful Americans are lacking. When you go to other countries.
They might have a beautiful beach, they might have this,
but the way they operate, the way they treat their citizens,

(20:55):
there's no place like the good old us of A.
And so do you think at a younger age, besides
what your parents instilled in you about loving the love
of country, our country, but seeing firsthand how other countries
run and operate and treat people, do you think that
also then push you for your love of America more?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Absolutely. Look, I learned early on what it's like to
be a minority, and I'm ben with the white kid
in Hawaii, then the Philippines and all these different places.
And look, the people think here in this country that
we can't get along, that this is a racist country.
They are so wrong. Go live somewhere else and you'll

(21:34):
find out what racism truly is. This is not a
racist country when you put it on the level with
other other country. And frankly, the people who cry racism oftentimes.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Are the racists.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Well, the other ones that hate out everybody.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean, like the liberal Democrats there who will go
Trump wants to send all these brown people, they only
say brown, right, Mexicans home. They'll go, who's gonna watch
my kids and wash my dishes and mow my lawn.
It's like, hey, you white liberal death democrat, senator, Is
that all you think of Mexicans? You racist piece of
I mean.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I know what it's like to truly be pulled over
or stopped for the color of my skin and shaken
down for money because they think you're they know you're
an American.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I know.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Like I don't sit there and whine about it, like
this is just the way other countries are.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, you stand out old you you're a big guy.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I was a scrawny kid back then.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Really, now I'm six ft three with the boots and hats,
I'm like six five or six six.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, but even back when you're twenty one, you're in
the Philippines, you're you didn't you didn't change from six
three or a six three, skinny white dude. You're gonna
stand down to see a five.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Five, the little blonde, little blonde hair that they would
want to touch because they've never seen blonde hair like that.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Wait to Rajeus, I assume Filipinos are short, no compared
to him, they're short. I just want to make sure
philip I don't get a packed by Filipino. No.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I think racism. That's profiling.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, yeah, I throve a profilers.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
There's an effect. I'm not saying the bad they're speaking
of observation.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
On average, most Filipinos are below six foot there, that's
a fact. Okay, let's move on. So they're so good
at karaoke, they're so good at carry karaoke. I bet
they just love that we're talking about their country. They'll
be like, yay, great Filipinos, we rock. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I loved it. We loved it as kids. Look every
one of those places we loved and appreciated. But what
we understood, we understood what poverty really was, not poverty
on the level of America, but poverty globally. It was
it is. It's a very different thing. People are there.
They have nothing in some of these other countries. We
learned what the value of the rule of law was,

(23:34):
and to have a stable rule of law where the
police you could rely on them, as opposed to them
being coming in and doing whatever they pleased because the
country have no constitution or no set of values or
or rules that they live by. We learned the value
of being able to move around freely wherever you wanted
to go. Nowhere in the world do you get to

(23:56):
just get in your car and if I want to
drive to Florida tomorrow, I can do that. I don't
have to stop at checkpoints in every state before I
get there. It is the freeze country in the world.
And everywhere you go people will accept you, and look,
some areas you're going to run into bad people. They're
bad people everywhere. But we learned quickly that America was

(24:18):
something special, and that is probably what really started to
instill my love of the country, not to mention my
family's been here for four hundred years, but also my
desire to protect what I love the most. I love God,
I love family, I love freedom, and freedom is to me.
If you start to impede on my freedom, I got

(24:40):
a real problem with which is why during the Abiden
administration I was so vocal, Well.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Doesn't the immigration thing give it away? I mean, if
America really was evil and systemically racist, then why is
it the people.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
From all over the world, more than.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
One hundred and fifty countries by the millions, are so
desperate to come here? And why should we love to
say it?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know, I always say this, I say the same
thing Riley to people. I go, if we're so bad,
why does everybody want to come here?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Because let's say that's a liberal. The next time they
complain about this country. Then go explain why when Joe
was in twenty million people tried to get in this
country and he probably at least fifteen to eighteen of
them in all right, you were twenty one. Take it
from there. We got to get up to the American sheriff.
You and I met five years ago, right, that's when

(25:27):
did you meet him? I met him aout four five
years ago, maybe be two, okay, maybe one or two.
So get us from twenty one up until let's say
twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
So twenty one years old, I come home. I actually
dated my wife for a couple of weeks. I met
her at church dance, dated her for a couple of weeks,
and then I moved to Panama. And so while I
was in Panama, there was no cell phones, and back
then you couldn't make a call. It was so expensive.
So I had to actually send her handwritten letters and
came back home four months later to try out with

(25:59):
the Giants. I had gotten scouted by the Royals and
Giants Panama.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Playing ball.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Wo yeah, playing position?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah? Whoa whoa?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Whoa played center field?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Whoay? Something I didn't know about that.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're talking to a massive Padres ballplayer.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Here ballplayer.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Whoa, I got my baseball from my tryout with the
Royals from way back when.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Golf Coast League. Yeah, the Golf Coast League, look at that.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeap, the Golf Coast League.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, so that I got that. I did those tryouts
and then the Giants were like, hey, go back to
the to camp.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
The problem was is I was twenty two years old.
I was already too old.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
For the game.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I would have signed a league team with their farm
system r Crow by that point.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, okay, that sounds and then too old. I hate
that anyway, good Mark center.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Fielder is twenty two years old starting from starting center
fielder Jackson Merril.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Anyway, I'm just it is crazy. Hell, if you're twenty two,
you're an old man in that that crew you mean
sign there?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
You guys talk base back that one.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I dated my wife for two more weeks. So I
dated her for a total of four weeks, and I
asked her to marry me and I got married and
had we immediately we started having kids. I had five kids.
All the while I was owning my own businesses. I
had a small u several years where I worked at
a dairy as a herdsman on a dairy until I
punched out. The boss knocked him out, and that ended

(27:28):
my time with the dairys.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
What did that boss do to deserve that? That's what
I want to know. Are you allowed to say today
or is there a non disclosure in that one?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
We had had a rough We had had a rough
day at the dairy. We had lost a few cows.
It was the middle of the winter. And he had
the way he talked to other people, not me necessarily,
but the way he talked to his brothers and other people.
It didn't I didn't like it. And he would always
take the lord's name in vain too, which bothered me.
And so one day he showed up and he was

(28:00):
about something and I had had enough, and so I
stormed up to the office. Didn't say a word. I
barged into the office and I said, is there a
problem here? He's like, you're damn right, there's a problem here.
And I said, hey, hey, hey, we didn't need you
down here today anyway. Now this is the owner of
the company. I'm like, hey, we didn't need you down
here today anyway. And he goes, what did you just
say to me? I said, you heard what I said.

(28:22):
I said, we didn't need you down here today anyway.
And he goes, don't you dare tell me? And I said,
don't you dare? Points your finger in my face and
he said he looked at me and he gave me
one of these little fore finger pushes in the chest bob.
I shove him back like ten feet and he comes
back and he's got this look in his face.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Like am I gonna what am I gonna do here?
And he's kind of trying to process it.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
His hid fist is clinch and damn, I just clocked
him and I knocked him out. He hit the ground
and he starts to come back to and he kind
of stumbles to his knees and his feet is, glasses
are all crooked on his face. And he gets up
and I stabilized him with one hand and had the
other one ready to go, and he says, get out

(29:09):
of here, and I go, I quit yah, And I.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Walked home and I get home.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
And my wife we have literally just had our last
fifth child. My wife just had it like probably within days,
two three days. My wife had just gotten home from
the hospital. I walk into the door at ten am,
which you'd never do on a dairy. I walk in
the door and she goes, you got fired.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
She goes, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Why are you home? And I go, well, I don't
work at the dairy anymore. She goes, what happened? I go,
I knocked out. I knocked out the boss. I won't
say his name. And that was it. So I started
a paintball store in town, and I got back to
onwning my own businesses. And it wasn't until I was
thirty three that I was finally introduced to law enforcement.

(29:54):
I'd never thought about being a cop before that.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now where was all this? Was all this going down
in Arizona with the other job.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Mostly in Arizon, but the time in the dairy was
in Utah.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
In Utah was in Utah, Okay, So in Utah raising
the kids, working on a hairy for all those years.
So you go from twenties to young thirties. Now get
us to how you get introduced into law enforcement and
decide I'm gonna run for sheriff someday. That's the story.
I want her. By the way, I'm learning all this,
folks right with you, and here this is my friend.
I don't know any of this puff, I gotta ask

(30:24):
more questions.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
So I decided I want to. I was doing my
own businesses and I was making money. I had a
pigeon control business. At the time. I was doing well,
but I just didn't feel like I was doing anything
for society. I didn't wake up in the morning and
feel or end my day at night and feel fulfilled,
like I had given back, like I had done anything

(30:44):
to fight for my country.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
I tried to go into the military.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Maybe in twenty or when I was thirty years old,
but I just couldn't do it with five kids, and
so I thought, well, I'll just be a business owner.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
And when I was thirty three, I had my own business.
Neighbors says, hey, you want to do it? Ride along?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
He worked on an Indian reservation, and so I said, yeah,
why not, I'll go. I had never thought of being
a cop, not when I was a kid, never played
police officer. Never nobody in my wife's family's a cop.
Nobody in my family's a cop. It was totally out
of left field. So I go on this ride along
and it was on an Indian reservation, and the call

(31:22):
we get was a dad who had found a twenty
year old with his fourteen year old daughter. So they
get into a scuffle. The guy runs out the back.
We show up and they let me on the car.
So I'm walking around armed with a flashlight and courage,
you know, that's all I had.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
And I look in this behind it.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You know, on the reservation you'll have a house and
then a bunch of desert behind it.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Well, there was an old, abandoned travel trailer and I
see it.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I look in the window and amongst all this trash
and debris, I see what I think is a quarter
size of skin. And so I say to him, I'm like, hey,
this guy's in here. So they go in there, they
move all this stuff. Sure enough, he's there. They grab them,
they rough them up, they taze them, they put them
in coups. I went home that morning morning and woke

(32:06):
my wife up and I said, honey, I'm going to
be a cop.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
What an origin story?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Okay? A minute? That a minute? So many treasures sold on.
So you're thirty something, thirty three, you have kids, You
have any daughters? I forget one daughter with all boys. Okay, wow,
So you got a girl yourself? You know, I got
a girl as well, and if a twenty year old
was caught with my fourteen year old, I wouldn't call you, Mark,
because I wouldn't want cops there for what I'm going

(32:34):
to do. I might call up a disposal unit later anyway.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
To get rid of I'll hear you're on that.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I'm sorry, I shouldn't say that. Cut that part, but.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
The nature, the nature of that call was also something
that because I realized, like, there are people out there
that are monsters, there are people out there that are
wolves preying on the herd. And I realize, you know what,
I can do this. And so six months later I'm
in the academy thirty four years old.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
WHOA.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
But I'll tell you that was the biggest blessing for
me because I wasn't twenty one. I had had a
significant amount of life experience. I had own my own businesses.
I had succeeded, I had failed, I had had a
lot of different things, and so when I dove into
this like I dove into it, and I had kids,
I had I had to make money, I had responsibility. Yeah,

(33:27):
my wife loved it. Pigeon control was more dangerous than
being a cop. I was up on roofs almost falling
off every day.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So that's like it was. It's like your shepherd moment, right,
Like you're seeing what's happening and then you're going home
because I know how how strong in faith you are,
and I'm like, that's a shepherd moment. You're like, hey,
wait a minute, if I go do this job, I
can help protect people and be a shepherd for the
sheep out there, which you're told to do. That's I mean,

(33:55):
let's be real. If you read your Bible, we know
the world is full of what cheap shepherd and wolves. Yes,
and if we don't have some shepherds to get out
there and kill them wolves, we're going to lose this
battle on this plane, if you will, right.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
And not everybody wants to do it.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Not everybody wants to do it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
There's a scripture in Isaiah says and the Lord asked,
said who shall I send? Yeah, and he answered here
in mine? I answered, here am I send me? And
that's what where we're looking. You know, we need people
that are willing to go well.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
And so that's the thing is the climate I imagine
has changed. I don't know what it was like for
you back then. What year was that when you were
getting into into the academy?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Was that mid two thousands, two thousand and five, two thousand.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And six, doesn't What do you make of this whole
even just the defund the police movement, the aftermath, the
attacks on cops. I mean, everything has changed. I think
we're coming.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Tax on ice now eight thirty percent increase on ice
attacks this year year over from last year when Jojo
was in I mean course nobody was attacking. And then
because I wasn't allowed to do their.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Job, a CBP agent was shot in the face right
in New York City not that long ago.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well what they do they have? This all started with
Obama And after the Mike Brown thing, hands up, don't shoot,
we found out that wasn't the case. He was over
at the door grabbing the gun. The shoots, the shots
were fired at the door, not he wasn't to his
back on his knees, his hands lies. But it all
started back under Obama, and everybody.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Thought, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I remember that craft, you know, you remember you were kind.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well that's the reason I that's the reason I ran
for sheriff is because, Rightley, you talk about it in
the beginning. When I first started, we didn't have body cameras,
we didn't have nobody had cell phones. Cell phones didn't
really come around for proficiently, you know, like a ton
of them until.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
You radio.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Everything is yeah, your radio.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
We didn't even have computers in our cars.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
And so when I was when I was about twenty
twenty eleven, I to Dan's point, I did not like
the direction of the country, and I didn't like what
Obama was doing because I felt like he was undermining
the rule of law in this country. Man he was,
and what he was doing was turning the public against
the people, and are the people against the police? The

(36:05):
public against the police. And also I thought that we
needed better leadership and law enforcement, people that would stand
up for the troops, people that would make sure that
there are men and women who put on the badge
every day. I had a champion leading them and protecting them.
And so I decided to run for sheriff. My people
thought I was crazy, you know, it always is. Anytime

(36:26):
you try to do something big, everybody says you're crazy
until you succeed. Yeah, and they want to jump in.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I know how that goes. Anyway, I won't go there. Okay,
so wow, don't you love learning all this stuff?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yes, I'm dropping a ton on you guy.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, no, no, we need two hours. We telling the
bosses we need two hours for this this podcast.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's interesting that you didn't go in as a young
kid right out of high school or college.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Way different perspective. Yeah, completely be a different cop. You
might never never have run to be a sheriff. You
wouldn't have realized all the things being you wouldn't have
been a family man yet, so different values.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
And having kids already a protector, that's already your day
to day job is protecting and providing for people, so
natural segue into public safety. It's the perfect well.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I also think like an eighteen year old going to
the academy, let's say in California, and if you've got
liberal instructors and liberal bosses, you're not going to have
possibly that diehard law and order constitutional sheriffs that Mark
had become, because you're gonna get brainwashed. Let's be real
an academy for the San Diego PD right at an
eighteen year old today in twenty twenty five, versus let's

(37:28):
say somebody thirty some years old going through an academy
be a sheriff in Arizona, where it's more conservative. You're older,
you know, more chances are the instructors aren't a bunch
of liberal comedies like here in Kelly. Yeah, you would
be a different cop completely, seriously, you would. So, I
mean again, I was somebody was looking at Eli of
Mark because you had a mission. Thank you, you had
a mission.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I was valedictorian, I was office, I was Rookie of
the Year, Officer of the Year, Detective of the year.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Those were consecutive years.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
And so I worked hard, like I would believer, if
you're going to do something, be the mass master of
your craft. So put in the effort in the time
to be the best at what you do. And that
is why I took that. That's part of the reason
I was being able to transition into being the sheriff.
And then I took the same mindset into being the sheriff.
I said, I'm going to be the best sheriff that

(38:15):
I can be. I wasn't trying to be the best
sheriff in the country, but I was trying to be
the best sheriff. And then when things Obama started it
and then we kind of got to reprieve.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I always say we got a.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
State of execution under the person Trump administration. We did,
but the mobs, the mobs and the protests and the
riots were being fueled by the same leftists who tried
to create disharmony in this country before President Trump, and
then they really just threw gas on the fire. They
didn't let President Trump get dig into the batter's box
and really take swings at what we needed to fix

(38:48):
in this country. And I just it was it was
hard to watch towards the ends, just how they and
then COVID and all these this Antifa and BLM. It
was a mess.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, it was like a warm up, I think because
Trump didn't know exactly how deep the swamp was. I
don't think he got tons of bad advice. He had
people on the staff that shouldn't have been there. He
had leftovers throughout the deep state that should have been
thrown out. And then he had Rhino Republicans come on.
He had deal with Paul Ryan, I mean, all these to.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Deal with the Russia Gate.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
The whole time, right we were talking about the beginning.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Ogus impeachments over like just the craziest thing, You've never
seen it, unprecedented.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, let's talk about that one real quick. But we
got to go back to your story because we're not
there yet with the whole how you got the sheriff thing.
But let me get your take on that, Sincerelly you
brought up the beginning of the show, and now again
we now have learned, thanks to Tulsi and Cash and
Ratcliffe just in the last week and a half Sheriff
that that raid at man Lago was probably to get

(39:47):
some documents they thought Trump had that would incriminate all
of them and prove that Russia Gate was one big
ass conspiracy put together by Hillary to distract from the
thirty three thousand missing emails. The DNC hooked her up,
The Obama regime knew it, his intelligence officers buried it.

(40:09):
This was all of them colluding to make Trump look bad,
and when it didn't work any won, then they continued
on in sixteen to seventeen, then with the impeachment to
put him under and then when he got robbed in
twenty twenty, then they decided, oh crap, did he get
some of those files. We better go down to mar
Lago and act like we're looking for information he took
on the Saudis or China or something.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
They authorized the possible use of Dady Force, right, yeah,
Christopher Ray.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
And remember that. Yeah, you're a law man. Could you
believe all that crap that went down?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
No? No, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
And I knew they were looking for something else at
that time. You know, we've always had a saying in
our household, I don't know what the truth is, but
it ain't what the government's telling about.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
And back then, whatever the government.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Was saying, you always need to look and tell you
see what they're not talking to you about. And they
made a big deal of that there was something else
that they were looking for that they didn't find. Because
I'll tell you what, if they would have found anything incriminating,
they would have absolutely used it. They had to come
up with stuff, and the Russia hopes to try to
take it.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
And I'm not going down when I'm gonna waste more
than ten seconds of that crap with you on your
on the show all about You. But I think the
same thing with Epstein. If they'd have had something on Trump,
It's just like the Russia pe tape. Remember we got
a tape with Trump and a hooker and d show
me the video. Shut your damn mouth.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I will say this, and I don't. I'm not going
to dive into the Epstein thing, but it goes along
with the Russia, what we're seeing with Brennan and Obama
and all this. If you're not aware, there's only three
charges in the Constitution laid out three crimes, and they
are treason, piracy, and counterfeit. Those are the only three
crimes that are out laid out in the Constitution.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
And so when you have a crime that could.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Potentially be treason, I think this is absolutely I love
that Tulsa Gabbard has done this. I will tell you
there is only one caution. The American people, actually those
on the right, are hungry for somebody to be held accountable.
And the reason the Epstein thing became such a problem
wasn't necessarily about him. It is about accountability. And I

(42:11):
think that we while we open this box, and I
think it absolutely needs to be investigated, and I hope
somebody gets put in cuffs. If people are not put
in cuffs, this could potentially be a bigger, another big problem.
So I hope that they do a solid investigation on this,
which it looks like all of the pieces are in

(42:33):
place now we're finding that information that their motives for
the mar A Lago raid, all of these things, they
should absolutely be putting cuffs and thrown in prison.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
And I think there may be even be a case
for treason on this.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Pisses off the American people, right. Really, it's like you
and I. He's in law enforcement, we're not. We're just
regular dudes. We having to be on TV with a
microphone a platform, but forget all that. We're regular dudes.
We don't go out and force law. We don't have
the power to arrest people whatever. But we think, hey,
if I did that, my ass would be in prison. Yes.
And so when we keep seeing it mark year after year,

(43:11):
decade after decade, for some of us in their fifties,
it's like, when is somebody gonna pay for their crimes
At the federal level, these guys keep whether it's insider
stock trading, whether it's Russia hoax, whether it's covering up whatever,
whether it's the slush fund to pay off their interns
and pages they've been sexually assaulting. They get away with
murder and everything else, and if Riley and I speed

(43:34):
and don't pay the ticket. If it's over one hundred,
you go to jail like our butt.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
If you were standing, if you were standing on the
grounds of the Capitol on January sixth, you were thrown
it away for misdemeanor crimes.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
And when they treated those people, I mean.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
They treated but they hold the American people to a
certain level of Sorry, I'm holding my baseball. They always
a friend told me said, uh, it doesn't do any
good to have a fu fastball if you never throw it,
which is part of the reason why I always say
the truth. So if you got an few fastball, you
might as well throw it well. But they want to

(44:11):
hold the American people accountable. And I heard this time
and time again under the last four years from DHS,
from FBI. They would come in front of us as
sheriffs at the major county sheriffs, at the national sheriffs,
and they would tell us the number one threat that
we are facing in America is domestic violence terrorism. They
and they would they literally said in one of the meetings,
these are going to be parents of school boards, These

(44:33):
are gonna be people that don't believe in the election.
People that were that that January sixth veterans.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
They literally said that I lost.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
My mind, and I went, I, I mean not for
this show, or maybe you want to, but I it's.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
A podcast, by the way out, this isn't a broadcast.
You knew the hell you want? You had a question there.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Well, I did because I wanted to bring it back
to on the note of accountability. To my orchis Biden
and Kamala Harris opening up the floodgates to traffickers, gang
member suspected terrorists.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
The thing that gun need them fentanyl.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
The thing that really pisses me off more than anything
about that is the fact that they got away with it.
There's been nothing so far. Yes, well so far. I
just don't know if we're gonna get any kind of
account I want to see Biden behind bars.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Listen, Joe's got presidential immunity, and Joe also has no
brain left. Let's be real. He's done. He's out to lunch.
The Independent Council said he's out to lunch.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
He's not gonna do nothing, and Kamala probably will as well.
You've got to try and get some of the mid
level henchmen just like with Obama, you got to get
Clapper and Coy and Brennan because you're not gonna get
the press present presidential community. Anyway, let's get back to Martin.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Well, can I just ahead, brother to Riley's pulling out
me to interrupt you. Dan, I'm sorry, no, no, no, quead
I we I was the same way Riley. I was like, dude,
this is not okay. They've got to be breaking some laws.
And I was out walking one day and I said,
you know what, They've got to be breaking in Arizona law.
So I went back to the office and I started

(45:59):
going through all of the different codes in Arizona and
I found one and it was participating in or assisting
a human smuggling operation. And one of the pieces of
it says blah blah blah blah blah or omission by
a public servant in his official public servant duties. And
so I went to the county attorney and I said, hey,

(46:21):
I want you to read this, and he read it,
and I said, I want to charge at least my Orcus,
maybe Harris and maybe Biden, but let me at least
charge my orcus with this.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
So I went through and we put the report together.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
We took a couple months. We showed just how the
impact of their omission of doing the job what it
had created in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
We brought the case back.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I put it in.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Front of the county attorney. He calls me into his
office and we went two hours back and forth, and ultimately,
because of the supremacy clause and because of some case
law out of Florida from the nineties, his office did
not take Those are just forwards shame. But I and
I pleaded. I said, I guarantee you the sixth or

(47:06):
the supremacy clause did not cover. It covers somebody doing
their job that violates the state law, not not.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Doing their job. I guarantee you.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
The founding fathers did not put it in there to say, hey,
if you don't do your job, we're gonna cover you.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
And I wanted him to take it, but in the
end he wouldn't take it. And that's you know. I tried, Riley.
All I can say is I tried.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
And I appreciate that. But nineties Florida case laws side,
like you said earlier, do the right thing always, and
what they did is fundamentally wrong. I would say, Evil
Lake and Riley, Rachel Moran, joscely Nungery, Americans were killed.
Biden has blood on his head and that's the only
name got to know about sons More, they have blood
on their hands and they got away with it. What

(47:51):
kind of message does that send to the American people
when the people who are supposed to be protecting you
literally open the floodgates to people who want to do
you harm.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
It's trees in a that's all day lost. Look, I
think the president is a former president, former president, former
vice president, and my Yorka's formal hand security director are
all guilty of treason. When you put your hand on
that Bible and raise your hand and take that oath
like I did in the Air Force, like you did
to become a sheriff, all that oath. We're supposed to
protect foreign and domestic. Okay, you had foreign invaders coming

(48:21):
in and as a president too, for Jojo, not that
he'd ever be listening or anybody works for him, but Jojo,
your job was to protect the American people. That's one
of the biggest number one priorities of a president. You
didn't protect us because you allowed eighteen to twenty million
invaders in thousands of them are terrorists that want to
do us harm. God forbid we haveing their nine eleven
style attack. I hope we never ever do. But they

(48:41):
are among us. So keep your damn head on a swivel, folks. Okay,
that's number one. You allowed fetnel to pour in by
the millions and millions of pounds of it, and hundreds
of thousand people are dying. So you didn't keep us
safe there. You allowed more guns to come in. Didn't
keep us safe there. You want to make the illegal citizens,
But those citizens you allowed in now, oh, the car
tell on average eighty five hundred. But they'll never get
out from nderneath that. You know. It's either sex or labor.

(49:06):
You got to work it off or the cartel will
kill you. So again, Jojoe, tell me how you kept
us safe from the cartel, the guns, the drugs, the
terrorists you allowed in your number one job, keep the
American public safe. You didn't do it. Your regime didn't
do it from the top down. You're all guilty of
treason in my damn book. And if it was one
hundred years ago, Mark, you know what we used to

(49:27):
do to them take them out back. Oh I'll leave it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Well so minimum tard, a minimum tarred and feathered. Yeah,
but I look executity.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Sorry, that's what you had.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
The border issue, but I think often we the border
was so bad and these last four years were so
bad that a lot of Americans are I don't know
if it's by design, but they have really done a
good job of getting Americans to forget about COVID. Look,
these folks removed your your constitutional rights in a lot
of traces. You have Fauci who intentionally worked. There's been

(50:03):
proof after proof that he and trade and creation of
this in a lab in China with our.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Enemies through Gaina function.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Brought it here.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
And then they went as far as to give people
an unproven vaccine which is causing as much damage and
probably will cause more damage in the future than what
the actual COVID did.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Well, remember the stupid mandates, And I know Mark youuden
enforce him in Panla County because I know my buddy
Chad biancro in Riverside didn't either. That bs where you
couldn't go to grandpa's funeral, you couldn't go to the
kids graduation, you couldn't go to your daughter's wedding, uless,
you were six feet apart in circles and had masks
on all this bs. And remember no more than twenty
in a gathering at more than thirty minutes. It's all

(50:46):
made up crap and rules for thee not for me.
Just like the other stuff we were talking about with
the insider trading everything. When it comes to these freaking politicians,
they get away with it and we don't, and people
are sick and tired of it. We want account of ability,
which is why we need more guys in uniform and
also in suits being our politicians that are like Mark.
All right, so you're thirty one, thirty three, you're kicking ass,

(51:09):
You're winning all these awards as best cop, You're super
cop out there, You're like Michael Rapaport and cop Land.
You're super cop, super cop. If you don't know that movie,
go watch it. It's good Sloan Harvey Kai Tell, bad movie,
kick Ass. Yeah, some good, baddest movie.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Great movie. Yeah. So I'm just plugging away. And then
when you're eleven, like I twenty eleven, I decided, you
know what, I'm fed up with this. So people don't
always people we live in a now generation where if
I decide I want to do something, I want the
results now. But I raised in a different place where
you have to sacrifice. I took a twenty five thousand

(51:44):
dollars pay cut to go to the county. I left
a the best job in the agency, one of the
gang drug detectives on the reservation where I worked, and
I walked away from that and went to the county.
Took a huge pay cut, had to work a pest
control job. I would literally work twelve hour shift. I
would come home, I would sleep for about three hours

(52:04):
in the morning, and I would wake up and go
do pest control all day long. I would come home,
I would run, I would work out, I would put
my clothes back on, I would go back out and
do another twelve hour shift. That was the sacrifice that
I paid, that and so many other things to get
to the point where I could actually run for sheriff,
which was in twenty fifteen. I started my campaign. I

(52:25):
was fortunate.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I was an underdog. Nobody gave me a chance at winning.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
We grind it and gritted it out, and when the
election came. The night of the election, the primary election,
my opponents thought they were going to beat me, and
I thought these guys lost their marbles. We beat them
sixty four to thirty six percent in that primary election,
sill lacking, and then we went on to win in
the general election, and I was fortunate enough to be

(52:51):
the sheriff and part of my last eight years. You
guys are an integral part, you know. Dan, We've been
doing interviews for a long time. Riley, We've been doing an.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Interlease four years. Brother, at least.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Right, we did Live PD. We did sixty Days in.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Oh, yeah, that's right, that Life PD show. I remember that. Yeah,
and you had ah what was that, Frank? You had
a deputy, had a hell of a Facebook or a
YouTube page or whatever with hilarious videos. I love watching
Frank all the time. Pull people over.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
I'm going to tell you all. So I started with
Live PD. We were doing sixty Days in at the
same time, and then Live PD said, hey, we want
to create a spinoff show called Live pde wanted and
we want you to be one of the co hosts.
I co hosted twenty episodes. I flew back to New
York and it would still be going if it wasn't
for COVID taking it down COVID, and then obviously what

(53:39):
happened in Minnesota kind of took it down as well.
But in the meantime, I understood, I understood the value
of social media and really setting the narrative and not
letting the mainstream.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Media set the narrative. So we chose to set thetive narrative.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
And I don't understand why more agencies don't use social media,
but we successfully before Frank even came him along, we
successfully had moved ourselves into number three in the country
on Facebook followers, only behind the FBI and the NYPD.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
WHOA.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
When we launched Fridays with Frank, who's one of my deputies.
Most people who are listening to this, they know Fridays
with Frank. He's become the most well known police officer.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
He's he's still doing that. Convince, Now that you're he's
still doing it, you should get him on your show too.
A connect Us, Well, yeah, with Frank, and we'll put
him on our talk shows. He's the videos.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
You're gonna love him Fridays with Frank.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah, yeah, Just go on watch watch five or six,
ten of the videos and you'll start chuckling. You'll go
I got to interview that Copy's fun. Frank's fun. Matter
of fact, we now them. In one of my Hungry
Heroes episodes, I had the Sheriff. I went over to
Arizona to show what he did as sheriff because he
has a huge county and a massive jail and a
big staff, so it's a huge job to be sheriff
at Panella County, Arizona. And then Frank was there and

(54:53):
I was like, oh my gosh, you get these videos.
They're freaking hilarious because he pay anyway, just watch, just watch.
I won't waste more time on Frank. We're talking to Mark,
but he's great.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
So now we are number two in the country for
Facebook followers, only behind the FBI and you guys, we
now know they have an inside source with social media, right,
but we're number two. Time now kind of helps ure.
I think we're number one with with YouTube and we
are probably the only law enforcement agency in the country
that actually monetizes our YouTube and we use the money

(55:24):
that we make to fund our programs, our youth programs,
our Shop with the Sheriff, where we buy Christmas gifts
for families at the end of the year, all of
our programs that are community programs we now fund instead
of the taxpayer paying for it. They're videos we were
going to do anyway. And this is how we approached
it with our community and with our county, as we said, look,

(55:45):
the only way for us to control our content from
people pirrating it is to actually monetize it. If we
monetize it, then we can we can have the other
videos taken down. And the second point, and the second
thing was let's fund it. Let's use this money to
fund what we're all of our programs that we do
because we're gonna put the videos up one way or

(56:05):
the other. And so the county saw the value in it,
and so I think we're the only ones that we
make about twelve to twenty grand a month on social
media stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Wow, that's that's some great program.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
So six figures a year, you got cash.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
And youbody have that Explorer program for kids, and yeah,
that's awesome. All right, So you do that, you win,
you clean up Panela County. You decide I'm going to
jump in and serve even further, and you get into
the race for Senate. We talked to her about that
that didn't turn out, and now today you're doing more
small businesses, writing books. You and the wife are travel around.

(56:37):
I see some great vacations. You're taking a break for
a second, sheriff or no, because you're like, no, it
doesn't sound like you take a break very long, like
a couple of days or weeks, and then I gotta go.
I gotta go, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
No breaks, no breaks. I have to be doing something.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
People say, what's your hobbies, and I'm like, uh, work, travel,
those are my two hobbies. Joy working. I love doing
the things that I like to do, and so I believe. So.
My newest business is ten seven. You can kind of
see half of it over my shoulder above John Wayne's head.
You can see the ten part. But it's called ten

(57:13):
seven Consulting. And what we're doing is we are I
just wrote a book ten seven, When your Shift Ends
and Your Life Begins.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
This just launched today, by the way, and what.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
It is is we are teaching law enforcement and retired
law enforcement on the job and retired veterans about business.
What I learned through my career is that a lot
of these guys don't know anything about business. They don't
know what a sole proprietorship, a trade name, and so
we put a series of courses and videos together. You
buy it through a membership, but we also with your

(57:50):
membership we set up an LLC for it. We help
you set up an LLC. We give you two meetings
with our attorney, which is worth more than your membership.
We also have have an AI platform that's specifically designed
for business questions on our platform.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
We'll think about this. So if you're a young twenty
let's say you're eighteen twenty, you go through the academy,
you get out, you become a cop. Let's just call
it twenty one, and you put in thirty years. You
get done. Only you're only fifty one years old. That's me.
I'm fifty one this year. Now, I'm not ready to retire.
I'm gonna keep working till i'm eighty one or they
tell me I can't be on TV anymore. But if
you don't have a job or a career, like I've
been doing the same things as I was eighteen, what

(58:28):
do you go do? That makes a lot of sense, Mark,
I bet a lot of cops don't know what do
I go do now at fifty? If I'm retiring fifty five.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
So well, there's a couple great idea that and the
couple point. We also offer it to non law enforcement.
We do charge a little bit extra for their membership.
But the average cop dies within five years of retirement.
Most people don't know that the average cop dies within
five years of retirement, and a lot of it is
because they lose purpose.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Look, we run our body veteran or.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Caffeine for eating, shift work, bad sleep, stress, trauma, we
go through all of it. And then if you don't
have a purpose, I think your body just loses itself
really quick it and so we want to give them purpose.
The other piece to that is their statistics to show
that if after the age of forty five, if you

(59:18):
have a major job change, you will not end up
in a significant employment. They'll hire a much younger person
right out of college or somebody younger. So you better
be the master of your own faith. Don't wait until
you retire, build your business now. At the minimum, you
will save more than what we charge for our membership.
You will save that in taxes, and we have tax

(59:39):
professionals to help people along the way on that too.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Of that, that's you know what I love that and
it's a great way to end. I see we're hitting
the one hour mark right now, Sheriff, God bless your man.
I'm so glad to hear that you're thriving. And I
was going to say relaxing, but you're not. So whatever,
Keep working your ass off because that's what men do.
We work, right, Thank you best specially you and I
his generation. No offense rightly, I'm just saying sorry. I'm

(01:00:04):
not throwing you under the bus. You're a hard worker.
You're here at four or five in the morning, I know,
and here it is, you know, five at night, twelve
hour day. Riley does work his butt off for being
a gen no millennial, No thanks, gen Zer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I'm on the board.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
What are you at twenty six?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I don't know. I think I'm on the border. I
don't know where it starts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I don't know what anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I've been told him, gen Z, but I don't you're
gen Z.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yeah, you're gen Z. You're not in our generation where
you know our parents kicked our butts. You either worked
like high school middle school jobs, mild man, or get out,
Sheriff lamb as always, brother, it is so good to
see you. Best to the wife, try to relax a
little bit. Congratulations on the success of the new biz
and the new book, and thank you. I have a

(01:00:46):
feeling we'll see him real soon on the talk shows.
But thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I would love to come on, and you guys know
I'm always down to come on your shelves at any time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Yeah, we appreciate you. And thanks for opening up and
tell us some of those personal stories, because that's all
news to me. Thank you, Mark, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Guys, and keep throwing those fastballs every day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
I'm a spitting tripower every night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Oh yeah, that's no breaks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yep. And we don't care who the hell says whatever
they say about our way in because we know we
are truth tellers here. God bless you, Mark, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
God bless you too. God bless you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
See it very cool?

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, wow, told you be a good one. That was
a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
If we had more lawmen like him, we would have
less problems in this world, well and in this country
for sure. I mean that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And the fact that he what he said about honor
really stuck with me. I think the key to making
America really great again is honor. And politicians are least,
even whether you judge a teacher, a first responder, whatever
it is that you do for the country, honor has
to be at the center of it. And it's just
sad to see us lose that. But Will said, I
think we're getting back to that. I feel the pendulum

(01:01:49):
swinging back toward patriotism and honor and deeparty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
To a degree. To a degree, we got to you know,
if we can get to fifty one percent of people
serving on your local city council, on your school board,
of the president United States, whoever it may be, because
once Trump's gone, you know, we got to get honorable
men in there, JD somebody. But you're right, at the
lowest to the highest level. If we had honorable men
and women running things, it would be a lot greater

(01:02:15):
for this nation. But unfortunately, too many people get caught
up by power and money. That's the two biggest factors.
I think in politics that if you could get rid
of them, but obviously you can't, you would get better
people in there. So it's you just have to really
do your research before you're voting for again that school

(01:02:36):
board president, that president, that mayor, and be like, is
that an honorable person? That I think won't be corrupted
by the power and the money once they're in. And
I think, even though he didn't make it to that
Senate seat, I highly doubt that Mark's done with politics
or maybe even law enforcement and whatever he decides to

(01:02:57):
go back into in the future. I think the folks
that if he let's see, he goes back in being
a sheriff, the folks that will be the residents that
he protects, You're gonna be well protected and you're gonna
have a good many on the on the on the wall,
watching on post. As we say in the military app
on Post.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
He's a good guy, yes, well, and he he reminded
me of something I realized early on about Trump. I
think they go after him so hard at the swamp,
the deep state because they realize they can't corrupt him.
They realized that years ago, and they hate him for it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Oh yeah, so much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
They've tried to compromise him, to kill him, to throw
him in prison, and none of it works. It just
makes him stronger.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I just love that so much about him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
So I do I do too. Hey, quick programming note,
By the way, I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so next
week we're gonna run an old podcast or do you
want to do a new one with the gentleman that's
filling in for me on Real America. I'd like to
do kid have David Pollock or get your own post
if you want to invite a friend and put him
in the couch and whatever. So the anchor men will

(01:03:54):
return next Friday at seven pm. But I will be
in Mexico hanging out with the family with a cocktail
and the beach for a well deserved vacation for like
twelve days. I'm not doing jack squat but relaxing good.
Although that's a lie. Like I told Mark, I probably
won't relax. I'll have to, you know, go fish and
do some I'll do something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, as you will. But it's much deserved. You work
very hard and you do a lot for this company.
Thank you brother for your viewers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
So this is much It's family now served five years yeah, oh,
five years next month. Really August twenty sixth when I started.
That was my start date.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Why wow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yes, I moved down here from Palm Desert and started
with aayn and it's been an interesting run. It's been
a rocky road here and there, primarily because of censorship
and Democrats. But now as we discussed and hopefully they
were will to put that truth up. Now we're making

(01:04:52):
a Yoge comeback. It's yoge and I like it and
I'm glad I stayed put because good good ownership, good
friends and co workers, great guests which have become friends,
and so I'm glad to be here. One more thing,
big thanks. Yes, I love these logos. The shirts are awesome.
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(01:05:15):
Style for always sponsoring the Anchorman podcast. So big thanks there.
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With that, Riley, what else you got? Finish us up?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
We got lots of social media. This will be uploaded
to Truth Social x, YouTube, Rumble, share it with your friends,
like and subscribe if you want to see Because we
don't have a guest picked out for next week yet,
so we're still figuring that out. So if you have suggestions,
let us know comments, questions that you want us to
ask things to address with us. Maybe you have a
question for us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Maybe they have an idea for your co host next week. Absolutely,
maybe they'll want somebody from OA in. Maybe like, oh, hey,
have Chanelle do it? You could pipe her in from Virginia,
DC where she lives and ever coast with you or
something like that, Abby lun Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Please let us know this. Like you just said, this
is a family. We're all in this together. We're on
the same as with Team America, babe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
We're all Americans. Yes, even the ones that hate us
and you and the country, we still want for them
and their family. We still want a great America for them. Yes,
they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
For us, but that's okay, well said. What a shame,
by the way. I hope that changes, but you're right
about that. Absolutely, I'm not holding my breath, but you know,
maybe one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Day, no kidding, Balley is always brother. I'll see it
in a couple of weeks. It's always a pleasure hanging
out with you for an hour or so. Absolutely, and
big thanks to Sheriff Mark Lamb for coming on the
program as well. Until next time, I'm Dan Ball alongside
Ridley Lewis everything. Oh an We love it, we live it,
we breathe it, we spit truth to power every day.
And thank you so much for being viewers because we

(01:06:47):
couldn't do it without you. God bless, have a great night.