America's Pet Obesity Problem - Dogs Going Postal - The Animal Radio® Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal
Radio featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor Debbie White and
groomer Joey Vallani. And here are your hosts, Halle RUMs
and Judy Francis. We have a fat show today. If
you're fat probably means your pets fat. That's because you're
sitting on the couch all day long and they're not

(00:20):
getting the exercise they need.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Today, we're going to talk about a fat cat, a
fat dog who weighed way too much. It's seventy seven
pounds for docks and they're supposed to weigh what twenty
thirty pounds at the moment, Yeah pounds had emergency surgery
to remove this scheme after he lost what fifty pounds.
We'll find out all on the show today, as well
as a guy who started a Kickstarter project for a
treadmill for cats. Wow. Pretty incredible show. I like the theme,

(00:45):
and of course we have Joey Villani, who's going to
tell us about skeeters. You talk about skeeters today and
getting rid of skeeters on your pets.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm talking about skeeters. But if you would have told
me this was going to be a fat show. I
could have talked about, you know, how to make a
fat dog look slim.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Too, you know, and do that just cosmetically.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
You could do that a little bit with haircuts and
how to do it. It's called camouflage grooming.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Maybe next week, that's right. Okay, there you go, Stacey.

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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, let's hit the phones. Hey, can I understand you
have dog problems?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
You know I do.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
We adopted a Siberian Husky from a rescue about three
months ago, and shortly after we adopted them, he kind
of had issues. So we put him into boarding and
training and we got them back probably I want to say,
about a week ago, and he was there for three
weeks before that. The separation anxiety was pretty strong and

(01:54):
it's still really strong. And you know, I want him
to be a happy dog. So I just want to
better understand, you know, what's causing this and how do
how to address it?

Speaker 7 (02:09):
Hey, Kim, who did you adopt him from? You said,
and I didn't hear.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
We adopted him from the Southern California Siberian Rescue.

Speaker 7 (02:17):
And how old is he?

Speaker 6 (02:18):
How old is he he is now, he's about eighteen
months old?

Speaker 7 (02:22):
Okay? And so what does he do when you come home?

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Well, when we leave, it's like he's just so upset
and it sounds like he's literally being tortured.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
And so then when when you leave and he's so
upset it sounds like he's being tortured, what do you
do at that point in time? What do you do? Exactly?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Ignore him?

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Okay? Do you just walk out the door?

Speaker 8 (02:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:43):
And then what happens when you leave? Does he destroy anything?

Speaker 6 (02:45):
What does he do if it's outside? If I go
to the car that's outside, he starts thrashing at the gates?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
How I mean?

Speaker 7 (02:53):
When okay, let's say you leave, right, you come back home?
What has he done to your house? Anything?

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Not anything? Now we also learn to keep put.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
Things away so he doesn't destroy anything. He just sort
of probably mellows out and lays there.

Speaker 9 (03:06):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's my guest.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
So, right, before you leave the house, what do you do?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
I will probably doe my routine where I'll grab my purse.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
Okay, So you know dogs have triggers. Think about what
you're doing right before you leave the house. You grab
your purse. Dogs go from hot to cold really quick,
from cold to hot really quick. But there's certain triggers.
There's certain things that they've learned through your behavior and
watching you that you do right before you leave the house,
which gets him excited, doesn't it? So picking up your

(03:37):
purse would be one of them.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah, I mean understand.

Speaker 7 (03:39):
Okay. So you want to give your dog confidence. He's
a very insecure dog, and there's a lot of things
you can do to do that, and one of them,
of course, is a daily walk. Daily walks are so
important for dogs. People just don't realize how important it
is to walk with your dog thirty minutes a day
on a leash, meeting people, going past other dogs, doing

(04:00):
things that make your dog feel confidence and a walk
is a great way to build confidence and trust between
you and your dog. So that's an important thing to do.
The other thing is to stop slow down from hyperspeed,
because when you leave the house, you're subconsciously just doing
what you do. So what you have to do is
slow down the process and analyze your behavior, what you're
doing before you leave the house, and you have to

(04:23):
recognize the triggers that are getting your dog excited. So
picking your purse up is one of them. So here's
an exercise. Let's say you pick up your purse, you
grab your coat. Those are the two things you do
before you leave the house. Your dog starts to get
wound up in kooky before you leave. Well, what you
want to do is start picking your purse up and
carrying it around the house but not going anywhere, so
your dog, your dog loses the ability to recognize that

(04:45):
as a trigger. And then as you pick your purse up, okay,
and you start walking around the house. You don't talk
to your dog, but you carry treats in your pocket,
and every time you put the purse on your shoulder.
After a little while, you start giving your dog a treat,
just giving him a treat every time you put the
purse on your shoulder. So he starts to associate your

(05:05):
purse with not bad, not I'm leaving. He starts to
associate your purse with oh. Every time she puts that
purse on, I get a treat. Okay, And then what
you want to do, whatever other triggers there are, you
want to do the same thing. Then what you want
to do is you want to start going towards the
door and just standing there. You just stand by the door,
but you don't actually leave. Okay, your dog's going to

(05:27):
start getting crazy when you go to the door. He
thinks you're leaving, but you don't actually leave, and you
just stand there. And after doing that a couple of days,
when your dog start stops reacting to you going to
the door, you start telling him, good dog. You start
rewarding him with a little bit of affection for being
calm when you walk towards the door, and then you

(05:47):
open the door. You know, you chain them up so
you can't run out, obviously, and then you do the
same thing. It's a step by step progression. And when
you come home, how does the dog act.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Usually he's excited and he peaes okay when he's excited,
and he's submissive peace when you come home.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
And it's interesting, I'll tell you a story if I
have time about a guy. You know, there might be
things you're doing. You don't realize that are causing him
to pee. But when you come home and he gets excited,
what do you do? Do you give him affection?

Speaker 6 (06:16):
You know, I've I don't. I walk through and it's
usually a very calm hello, and he gets you know,
he starts to jump in and if I do pat
him on the head or give him a nuzzle underneath
he that's when he starts to peace. So there's some attention,
but it's not over attention.

Speaker 7 (06:32):
You're giving him attention with it. You're giving him attention
without realizing it because you're feeling guilty. Okay, so when
you you know, when you feel human emotions, they transcend
right into your dog. So what you've got to do
is you come home, it's a non event, You open
the door, you walk in, You pay no attention to
him for like fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes. As soon as

(06:53):
he starts to be calm, just goes and lays down.
That's when you walk over and gently pet him and
give him a treat, say good dog. And doing that consistently,
over and over and over again forever teaches him that
he gets attention when he's calm. Teaches him that he
gets a treat when he's calm, teaches him here, not
going to pay any attention to him when he's wound

(07:15):
up in manic. The only way to teach dogs what
you want is with action, because words mean nothing to them.
As a matter of fact, they think you're joining in
when you get excited and you start talking. Just to
give you an example of what I'm talking about. And
I hope I have time. Hell I hope I'm not
eating up too much time. But this is an interesting story.
A guy I was working with his dog would go

(07:36):
nuts and chew up stuff, and you know, when he
came home, the dog would pee. And I say, well, well,
tell me about your tell me about your week last week,
and he said, well, last week was interesting. I got
a raise last week. And I came home and the
dog had showed up my favorite pair of Nikes, and
I was so happy about my rais I just pet
him and it was no big deal. Firstly, this is
a guy who refused to create his dog, and you

(07:58):
can't do that, can't put him in a cage. It's cruel,
it's mean. Okay, whatever, So then I go, tell me
about the rest of your week. So two days later,
he comes home. He's really mad because his dog gave
him a reprimand I'm sorry his boss gave him a
reprimand because he hadn't finished an assignment on time. He
comes home. Of course, his dog had destroyed something else.
I think it was a pair of drapes that he

(08:19):
dragged off the window or something. And so now he's mad.
Now he's mad, and now he's reprimanding his dog. So
I ask him, you know, he's a human, he's supposed
to be smart. What do you think the dog thinks
when you come home? What do you think is going
on in the dog's mind? And he goes, you know,
I never thought about that, And I go, well, let
me tell you what. The dog doesn't know that you

(08:39):
got a raise. The dog doesn't know that you got reprimanded.
The dog doesn't know that you're mad or happy because
he chewed up your shoes. He associates you coming home
with I don't know what the heck is going to happen.
Sometimes this guy walks through the door and gives me affection.
Sometimes he walks through the door and he punishes me.
So the dog gets really, really nervous and anxious, and
peace it makes.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Sense, and I guess you know, we dog owners just
steal that sense of guilt when we don't give them attention.
But it's you know, obviously it sounds like it.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
You know what, The most the kindest thing that you
or any dog owner can do is teach your dog
the rules that will get him attention and not giving
him attention first but last, because dogs crave consistency, they
crave rules, they crave structure, they crave leadership. They need
that to be happy and calm and well adjusted. And

(09:31):
a calm dog is a happy dog. And so you
can do this because you're smart, Kim. I can tell
by talking to you that you are very smart, and
you can.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, I mean I want him, you know I did.
I put him in to be boarded and trained because
I needed that structure. But I want to continue it,
and that's why I want to address these issues so
that he is happy and secure inconfident.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Well, before you go, remember remember this. There's a big
difference between dog training and dog behavior and changing dog.
Dog training is like you train your dog to sit,
you train your dog to heal, you train your dog
to do a trick. Dog behavior is how your dog
is actually responding and behaving and changing dog behavior takes
a lot of consistency, patients, calm behavior on your part, leadership,

(10:13):
and time. It takes time. People in America they want
to pill to cure everything. Dog behavior takes time to change,
and it takes consistency. You do the same things every
single time and every single day, so your dog knows
what to expect and you never deviate. And when you
do that, your dog is going to learn to trust
you and to be calm around you.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
And if it makes you feel any better at all,
Every time I come into the studio, usually Alan will
roll over and pee.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
Sometimes that's right, that's right, all over myself. That's right.

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Hikthy, Yes, Hello, how are you?

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Where are you calling from today?

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Alpina, Michigan. That's so maybe two hundred miles from Detroit?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is that on the top part of the glove?

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
What's going on with your animal? I have doctor Debbie
right here.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
Yes, she's thirteen years old, and ever since January it's
been an on and off situation. But in January she
was a high blood count, fever, infection, loss of weight,
diarrhea and they took and so. But after that she
was fine. They put her on a maxicillin and everything.

(13:35):
She was fined for two months then and I'm trying
to go real fast. Then in April, everything's been up
and down, up and down. But the main thing her
blood count elevated this and that. But the main thing
now she's in no pain. She lost weight, she's happy, everything,
But she still has the diarrhea. And now they're thinking

(13:57):
she might be having an irritable vowel, some disease, and
they are trying to rule out all these different things.
You know, now they're going to put her on steroids.
We picked her picked up steroids today and see what'sin
a week if she's going to improve. The main thing
is she's losing weight and the diarrhea.

Speaker 15 (14:15):
Okay, and I missed what kind of dog is she?

Speaker 8 (14:17):
Driven shepherd thirteen years old and she's.

Speaker 9 (14:20):
Never mentioned healthy all her life?

Speaker 15 (14:21):
Alrighty, well, I mean definitely that strategy it can be
a very sound one and a thirteen year old dog.
In the causes of weight loss accompanied with vomiting and
or diarrhea, we definitely go gearing towards the gut. And
if we don't feel anything that's feeling like a lump
or a bump or a mass internally, yeah, then sometimes
we have to look at the things that are harder

(14:42):
to prove just from outward means or even from tests
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get an answer to some of these situations, you know,
we're looking at getting biopsies of the intestinal tract, and
that you know, isn't really necessarily realistic in a thirteen
year old dog. So you know, there might be some
steps that we can do to try to figure out

(15:04):
a little bit more about what's going on in the
digestive tracks. So for me, often with a dog that's
losing weight, you know, I may do things like do
some vitamin B levels. Cobalamine and folate can be helpful
because even if we're not gonna go for something like
a biopsy, sometimes those elements need to be supplemented and
they can really benefit from vitamin B therapy along with

(15:28):
antibiotics and probiotics to try to help keep things going.
And there are definitely some doggies where when we're suspicious
that they might have an inflammatory problem like inflammatory bowel disease,
you know that steroids are certainly on the table and
sometimes we just kind of give it a whirl, see
how they do, and if we see improvement, then you know,

(15:50):
that's a very realistic approach for a doggie in her
age bracket, you know, with some caveats, because anytime we
use steroids, there's good and bad, so there are some
conditions that can be worse and with that and in
an older pet. You know, I do also worry about
things like you know, the big C. Cancer certainly is
a possibility, and it can be tough to roll that
out completely by these you know, these tests that we

(16:12):
do from the outside. You know, certainly, uh, you know,
I think you have nothing to lose by trying that approach,
and especially if she's continuing to lose weight even though
you had around the antibiotics and she's still lost weight
despite that.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
Right right, well, well she did. She does gain a
couple of pounds in here, and I forgot to tell
you that. In the blood work right now, they found
that she is losing protein in her body and her
glands are producing too much cortisol. M okay, okay, So
now her lab work from this week, okay.

Speaker 15 (16:46):
Yeah, and the protein loss, you definitely, if we're having
chronic diarrhea, we look for where we could lose it
in the body. And you can lose protein in the
GI tract. You can also lose it in the kidneys.
And sometimes we don't have an approach because we're anemic
or we're just having problems with our overall metabolism. So

(17:06):
if the diarrhea is the cause of that. Yeah, yeah,
I can understand why she might have a low protein level,
and cushion disease isn't necessarily something that I first think
of if we have a digestive problem and weight loss.
So the problem is with Christians disease. It's a disease
that causes high levels of cortizone in the body, but
stress causes high levels of cortizone, So disease processes can

(17:29):
cause us to have high cortizone levels. So it could
be a little hard to really interpret that in the
face of a sick pat so. But but other.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
Thing, she's playful, she's happy, she's got appetite. Except for now,
the really the diarrhea. No pain, no nothing, because they
check for bumps and lumps and here no pain. Very playful,
she's this and that, except for now, the big thing
is the diarrhea.

Speaker 15 (17:52):
Well, and hopefully we'll see, you know, with the stereod
if that helps.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
But you know, those other.

Speaker 15 (17:56):
Things, and if you haven't already used things like probiotics,
and some dogs we will even entertain putting them on
low level antibiotics if we're suspicious that they have intestinal
overgrowth in their intestinal tract. And that can happen very commonly.
You know, secondary tom intestinal diseases are sometimes all by itself.
So it's not a case where we like to use antibiotics,

(18:18):
you know, indiscriminately, But for some rice pets, it really
can help treat them in their quality of their life.

Speaker 8 (18:24):
I like where you're going in with the vets. She
also said the biopsy, we'll see if the steroids are
very good. Oh, I appreciate so much you. My sister
and La listens to your program all the time. We
just listen to it all the time.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, thank you so much for listening. I hope everything
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I don't know if I'd want to live in this
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I'm Stacey Cohen for Animal Radio. I don't know about you,
but my dog always barks at the mailman. There's something
about the mailman that just drives my dogs crazy. In fact,
they will not even deliver mail at my house. I
had to get a po box because when I used
to have a big German Shepherd Border Collie mix, he
would always go after him. But dogs seem to go

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postal in La more than any other US city. The
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worst cities for dog attacks on mail carriers. LA recorded
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the safest city with just twenty attacks. So if you
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Kansas is where you need to go. Almost six thousand
postal workers were attacked by dogs. An old video posted
online could cause some new problems for two Florida men,
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What an idiot? The video was first posted on Facebook
about a year ago, but now the Fish and Wildlife
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the men in the video and say they could face
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they fly around looking for places to build nests. Bill Campbell,
who's president of the Tanglewood Neighborhood Association, tells the Fort
Worth Star Telegram that people don't want the birds to
get comfortable nesting in their neighborhoods. He added that residence
will probably have to scare off the birds every year.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
In the future.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Some neighborhoods are looking into building areas where the egrets
can nest in peace. Wildlife Protection Group wants to work
on a freeway project in Petaluma, California, stop because it's
causing the deaths of swallows there that nest in the bridge.
The Press Democrat says concerns around the construction at the
Highway one oh one bridge right over the Petaluma River.

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The wildlife advocates say federally protected cliff swallows build mud
nests in that bridge, and Caltrans' efforts to keep those
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Caltrans to do additional environmental studies before they resume construction.
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So what's going on with your animal? I have doctor
Debby right here.

Speaker 18 (24:42):
Someone dropped off this little Shihuahua and I've raised him
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you know. I took him to get fixed and he
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fixed them, but they didn't say what kind of allergy
because then they would have to do a skin thing.
So I started giving him some kind of flex dog

(25:04):
which is a three fatty acid and immune system I'm
seeing a little bit different, but I don't know if
that's what I could do for like doing his I
do the tea tree, but that's not working, so maybe
a different type of shampoo.

Speaker 15 (25:18):
Okay, tell me a little bit more about this guy.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
How old is he?

Speaker 18 (25:21):
He's only five months old?

Speaker 15 (25:23):
Five month old? Little chihooy hooey. And what what do
these areas look like on his body?

Speaker 18 (25:30):
Little spot of red?

Speaker 7 (25:32):
Okay? And is there.

Speaker 18 (25:36):
It's just pink and then it's.

Speaker 19 (25:39):
Just he's got hair on there.

Speaker 18 (25:41):
So okay, I mean, I don't know if there's a
special shampoo should I do or.

Speaker 15 (25:45):
Okay, Well, the first thing I'm going to tell you
is that allergies definitely can happen in young dogs. But
the truth of the matter is that seasonal allergies inhale
and allergies are not going to be present in a
doggie this young. So things that are pollens, you know,
things that are blooming outside it takes well over a
year and a half exposure to those environmental allergens for

(26:06):
a pet to develop an allergy, so we can almost
kind of just ignore that whole possibility. But we can
sometimes see food allergies and young dogs. Sometimes I've the
youngest I've diagnosed, it's been a six month old puppy.
But typically those pets will tend to be quite itchy.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
You know.

Speaker 15 (26:23):
We have some pretty typical signs with that, and it
show wow, puppy, how golly at five months old, I
will tell you.

Speaker 18 (26:30):
Yeah, I understand he has a high maintenance.

Speaker 19 (26:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (26:35):
The first thing I honestly would have this boy evaluated
for is to check him for mites. Demodectic mites are
what they call the red name, just.

Speaker 18 (26:43):
Quite common when I took him in and then they
fixed them, so they said to do the corner zone.

Speaker 15 (26:50):
Well, and if it didn't help, it does help.

Speaker 18 (26:53):
Yeah, But every time I take him over to the
my mom's yard, it's it's I think he's allergic to
the grass. Comes back alad again.

Speaker 15 (27:02):
Well, I'm just telling you, going with the odds in
a young pup of his age. Even if we don't
see mites on the first sampling. Sometimes it does take
multiple samplings, so I would just want to make sure
we exhaust that. And now this is something you can't
do just by looking. They actually have to take some
skin samples. They have to do that skin scraping as
we call it. So if that's been done, then I'll

(27:22):
feel more comfortable about that. But you know, okay, so
see say that test is negative for your little guy. Yes,
they are definitely going to be some things we're going
to look at doing. And we might start with some
of those colloidal oatmeal shampoos which can be very soothing
for the skin. And then I would address going into
a hypoallergenic diet. I'm not really familiar with some of

(27:44):
the brand that you mentioned, yeah, but to get into it. Yeah,
and you know, grain isn't always the big problem. It's
kind of a big fat in the human world with nutrition.
But actually some research studies actually have shown that some
of the most common allergens in food foods four dogs
are things like beef, which is over thirty percent of
the most common allergens and dogs. Dairy and wheat are

(28:06):
followed after that, and actually, you know, corn is pretty
low on the list. It's lower down so things when
we talk about grains, yeah, it could be a grain problem,
but in many cases it could be a chicken of
beef all those other ingredients.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 15 (28:21):
Yeah, So you would I'd say pick up that phone,
talk to that that and say what food would you recommend?

Speaker 7 (28:26):
In my office?

Speaker 15 (28:27):
If I'm treating a food allergy, I like to go
to something in a young dog, like a novel protein diet.
Maybe it's going to be something that's just got two ingredients.
It's going to have a carbohydrate and it's going to
have a protein. My own dog is on a rabbit
based diet. Some dogs thrive really well on a fish
based diet. And the thing I'll tell you is with
with hyperaalogenic diets, you know, it's a little bit trickier

(28:49):
than just looking on the label and saying is this
food have that ingredient or not? Because for hyperalogenic diets,
the ideal way to do this is to manage it
with very limited ingredients and to make sure that we're
using things that are new and novel to the pet's experiences.
So you know, I personally, as a veterinarian, I like

(29:10):
to have some recommendations that I would throw your way.
So chat with that veterinarian and make sure that we
didn't have mites, and then we can talk about a
little bit more about these diets. And fatty acids are great.
I like that you mentioned the diet with fatty acids,
but you know I prefer to bring them in in
a supplement form. So bring it in in a pill,
bring it in in a liquid. Add that in so

(29:30):
that we can control the dose in the amount, and
we know that it's going to be beneficial for your
little guy, Violet. I commend you. You've got your hands
full with that whole crew of doggy daycare, and bless
that little guy's heart, and I'm sure you're going to
get him on the mend here soon. This is doctor Debbie.
If you have a question for the Dream Team, give
us a call.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
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Speaker 7 (29:58):
It's alan Cable. There's big controversy regarding your pets sleeping
with you. We're talking to a sleep doctor who said
it's a bad idea and he got lots of hate mail.
You know, there's experts on everything you see him. Every
day on TV, they try to tell you what to eat,
when to sleep, where to go, what to do, what
to look at. It's ridiculous. The doctor made a good point.
He's just trying to help people in this country's sleep
because tons of us are having trouble sleeping. And he said,

(30:20):
if your pet is interfering with your sleep, then you
should try not sleeping with your pet. That's all he said.
Here's the reason I wanted to continue the discussion on this.
There are a lot of folks to let their dogs
eat whatever they eat and sleep in their own beds
because they feel guilty. People like this guy's problem.

Speaker 20 (30:37):
Why are you crying?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Tell me why you're crying, honey.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
I feel sorry for that poor dog.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Why.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Because you're supposed to be a calm, confident leader, you're
supposed to earn your dog's trust and respect. Why that
dog doesn't know what you're saying camera. He just knows
he's getting attention. Now. This person you're hearing is one
of my friends, and his dogs sleep with him. He
doesn't sleep, but his dogs do. In fact, his dogs
run the entire show. And up until just a couple

(31:06):
of days ago, when I talked to him about it.
He didn't see that. He didn't realize that. Now, twenty
years ago, when I used to tell folks to put
their dogs in crates, they thought it was the most
horrible thing there was, putting your dog in a cage.
Now it's accepted, Thank goodness. The one thing that prevents
us all from being good dog parents and good people
parents is guilt. It cripples you. If you feel guilty

(31:26):
about not letting your dog sleep in bed with you
because he always has and he's whining about it, well
you're clouded with emotion and you'll never be able to
do what's best for both your dog and yourself. Your
dog is perfectly fine sleeping on the floor in a
dog pack. The leader has his own spot. None of
the other dogs sleep with him. They don't go near
his spot unless they're given permission. So can your dog
respect you when you give up your spot and let

(31:48):
him have it? Probably not, and you could be opening
up a can of worms for a host of other troubles.
So remember, if it works for you, fine, But if
you're doing it at a guilt, well that's the worst reason.

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Speaker 4 (33:00):
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Speaker 7 (33:02):
Understand these fat pet people. I mean, it's not like
the dog and the cat go to the supermarket and buy.

Speaker 21 (33:06):
Stuff, especially a fat docks And I mean that's not
that's not an attractive looking fat dog.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
No, no, on a you know, a basst hound. That
would be an unattracted looking fat dog too.

Speaker 21 (33:18):
Bulldog, bulldogs, I've seen big, but bassett. I mean they
just drake their thing along the floor and you got
a little sav on into something.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Judy's always giving them treats.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Well, of course it's around here. But it's easy, though,
do we get we get all sponsored stuff. Yeah, I
mean it's it's hard not be.

Speaker 15 (33:36):
He's saying that while I'm on the phone.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
That's not true. It tells me it's no laughing matter,
and then he starts laughing. I mean, if you got
a fat pet, it's because you're feeding your pet too much.
It's pretty simple. Let's go to this phone co.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Come on, hey, Tim, Hello, how you doing today?

Speaker 20 (33:51):
Doing good?

Speaker 14 (33:52):
Well?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I understand you have dog issues.

Speaker 20 (33:54):
Well, yeah, they're great though. Dogs. We have two caring terriers.
It's a new colored day. They're wheat colored teir interiors.
The sister's out of the same litter and uh, when
my wife takes them after walk. They've just turned four
years old. But when she takes them at the walk,
and they've pretty much always done this is it's like
sled dogs. You know, they they walk to you, you

(34:15):
don't walk to them. And we she don't want to
put a choker chain on them. She's afraid it's gonna
hurt them. And we're trying to figure out, you know,
other than you know, if that's what we need to do,
or if we you know, if there's something else we
can do.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
Well, Tim, you're a nice guy, your wife, you're wonderful people.
You're the kind of people that I would love to
live next door to them because I can just tell
your sweet people. And you know, sweetness does not equate
with being a good dog parent. Sweetness is something you
save for last. And so what you've got now is
you got those retractable leashes on the dog. Don't you

(34:49):
wear it? You know you can get out the regular.

Speaker 20 (34:51):
The regular nylon, you know, loop, they're not retractable. It's
just like a five foot or six foot leash.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
All right, So how much time do you have how
much time do you and your wife have have for
the dogs yet to work with your dog?

Speaker 20 (35:05):
Well, we can work with them in the morning. During
the afternoon or in the evenings. You know, we pretty
I work for myself and she does too. We have
our own business and the week it's beautiful, we can
pretty much, you know, do whatever we want to do.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
So, well, what technique do you want? Do you want
the simple technique because there is none, or do you
want to do you want to Firstly, the choker chain
will not hurt your dog. It's the way you use
the choker chain that can hurt your dog. Basically, a
choker chain is just something to give your dog a
little friendly reminder that he's not acting the way you want.
It's the way you use it. So you're not gonna

(35:38):
hurt your dog by putting a choker chain on your dog.
So that that's a really important thing. You've got to
have some sort of a collar on your dog that
you can use to give your dog a correction. The
easiest technique I'm gonna give you for working with your dog,
and believe me, none of them work overnight. You've got
to be patient. Comment all right, You're gonna have to
work with one dog at a time, though you don't
want to work with them both, or your wife has

(36:00):
to take one. You take the other one, okay, And
the preparation starts before you leave the house. So before
you leave the house and you're getting ready to take
your dog for walk, there's certain things you do that
get him immediately excited. Maybe you pick the leash up
and he sees that, he gets really excited by it, right, yeah, okay,
what happens, all right, So what you're gonna do now
is you're gonna pick the leash up, but you're not

(36:20):
gonna take him out, and you're gonna do that a lot.
You're just gonna pick the leash up and walk around
the house with so he never knows when he's going out.
That's the first thing you're gonna do. The second thing
you're gonna do is when you leave the house, you
wait till the dog is calm. You just sit there.
You stand there with the dog at your side. You
stand there, you don't move. As soon as he's calm,
you make a move towards the door. If he gets excited,

(36:40):
you stop. You need to do a lot of starting
and stopping, and once you get him outside, you start walking.
As soon as he starts pulling, you just stop. You
just stop walking and stand there. Now it's important that
you know you don't talk to him. You and your
wife do not talk to the dog. Just stand there.
As soon as he calms you start walking again, he
starts pulling, You stop again, and the whole time the

(37:03):
leash is glued to your body like you're a tree stump.
You've got to glued to your side or to your chest,
and you're training your dog to walk on your side,
never in front of you. So if he starts walking
in front of you and pulling, you just stop, stand
there and you don't move for as long as it
takes for him to mellow out. Does any of that
make sense to you, buddy, it's gonna take a long time.

Speaker 20 (37:22):
Yeah, it's gonna take off those harnesses. It's supposed to
stop him from pulling, you know, when they pull and
all that, But I don't think those haven't worked.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
So tim nothing stops a dog from pulling. But you
what people don't understand is like, let's say you take
your dog out, you train your dog for fifteen minutes, Well,
what are you doing the other twenty three hours and
forty five minutes a day? You're teaching your dog stuff
without him even knowing it, without you even knowing it.
You're teaching your dog all kinds of things. And what
you've got to do is you've got to be in charge.

(37:51):
You've got to act like a leader. You've got to
stop feeling sorry for your dog and worrying about him,
and you know, you've got to treat him like a dog.
And you've got to be the leader that says, hey,
I don't like this behavior, cut it out. And the
way you do that is with your body, not with
your words. The way you do that is when your
dog starts pulling on a leaseh you just stop walking.
You just stop and you wait for them to stop

(38:12):
pulling before. That's what you gotta do, buddy, Yeah, that's
what you gotta do.

Speaker 20 (38:16):
The The other question was when the doorbeller. There by
no means are they visius. They've never even offered or
trying to buy anyone. They really won't even lick you.
But when somebody rings the doorbell, they go crazy. Mark, Yeah,
of course they still get inside. They're all excited. They don't,
you know, jump in here and do nothing like that.
It's just that doorbell is like a boxer. I guess
you bring them, you know, when he's ready to balk.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
And why do you think your dogs go barking crazy?
I don't know right the correct answer, Tim, The correct
answer is yes, it does excite them. But why do
they go crazy, Tim, Because you let them go crazy.
You see, you give them the spade there. They're just
being territorial. They're protecting their territory and and and the

(38:58):
doorbell keys them and it gets them excited. Another thing
to understand is if you take them on long walks,
it'll mellow them out. They probably won't go as crazy.
They're just looking for ways to stimulate themselves too. But
you've got to teach him that the space in front
of the door is yours. And you do that by
practice with a buddy. You have a buddy outside, you
tell him to ring the doorbell. As soon as he
goes to ring the doorbell and the dog makes his

(39:20):
move to go to the door, you stand in front
and hurt him away with your body and teach him
that's your space. And then you teach him to lay
on his rug and be quiet. And then you do
it over and over and over and over again with
your body, with your actions, not with your words. When
he starts doing what you want you tell him good
dog and give him a treat. It takes a long
time to do these things though, tim a long time repetition.

(39:41):
You and your wife have to do the exact same
thing over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 20 (39:45):
Being four years old, we can still teach him to
do that right.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
Absolutely, you can teach. There's no such thing as not
being able to teach an old dog new tricks.

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Speaker 1 (41:00):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio,
featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor Debbie White, dog trainer
Alan Cable, groomer Joey Vellani, communicator Joy Turner, and here
are your hosts, Tale Rooms and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
This hour, we're going to talk to a lady who's
rescued a cat from McDonald's. Apparently was hanging out and
eating food all day long and it didn't meet the
nutritional requirements of a cat. Also, we're gonna I guess
Obi's out. We're not gonna be talking to Obi. No,
we didn't get Obi this week, okay, but maybe next
week we're finding I guess there's some legal custody battles

(41:36):
going on. More details about that seventy seven pound docks
in on the way. Let's see, we're going to line
four and on line five. Okay, hold on a second Stacy,
what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I don't know. Snakes are not something that really freaked
me out. Some people are really freaked out by snakes.
They just see one and they start screaming. There's this
guy in Florida who got out of his cart there
was a one hundred and twenty eight pound snake. Now,
this is not a worm, this is this is a snake.
It's a python. Wow, he got out and wrestled with
it and it wrapped around his leg. I mean he

(42:09):
was just driving by and saw it. I'll tell you
what happened coming up on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Wow, that's a that's a big snake. Doctor Debbie, you
deal with snakes down there at the clinic. I know
you stay away from Trigula's.

Speaker 14 (42:19):
You know.

Speaker 15 (42:20):
I let my associates deal with most of the snakes,
and definitely one hundred and twenty eight pound snake I
certainly won't be seeing.

Speaker 7 (42:26):
I have a question. I have a question. Yes, okay,
the guy's riding by in his car and he sees
the snake. Why does he have to get out and
bother the snake? I mean? And then of course the
story sounds like, oh, this guy's fighting for his life,
the snake attacked him. You know, the snake's minding his
own business, going about his very snake way, and Rudolph
gets out of his car and has to mess with them,

(42:47):
and of course he's probably trying to defend himself and
protect himself, and all of a sudden, the human is
the victim.

Speaker 15 (42:52):
Well, I think this is I.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Think this is in Florida where they're having the problem
with all the snakes and they have bounty on their heads.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
Yeah, problems.

Speaker 15 (43:00):
I mean these these will take your dog down, man,
I mean you know, they'll take small children, wildlife.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
So they are of species one hundred and twenty eight pounds.
I think it already probably took a dog or two down,
a small child. Let's see, Jacob, how are you doing.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
I'm doing good in you very well.

Speaker 2 (43:16):

Speaker 9 (43:17):
Well, I'm a truck driving here in Wyoming.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh lovely Wyoming. I feel for you, man, slot window,
out wind and lots of flat I imagine.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
So what's going on with your dog or cat or iguana?

Speaker 14 (43:31):
What is it?

Speaker 9 (43:32):
Well, we have my wife and I we have a
ten year old mood Fox carrier and you know, she's
been a very active athletic dog up until I'd say
a month and a half ago. She has developed a
honking type cough. And you know it's the toughest part

(43:53):
right now is throughout the night she'll go through these spells.
You know, during the day. Uh, my wife is wondering,
you know, why why is she sleeping? Well, she's not
getting sleep at night, right and you know from from
my research, my wife and then we have gone to
the vet, there's a high suspicion that it's collapsing trachea.

Speaker 15 (44:17):
Is she having any other symptoms at all as far
as any weight loss and their problems? Is she eating?

Speaker 9 (44:24):
Okay, she's still eating. She's seems to be a little
more picky now, surprising because she would she would think
golf her food so fast that she would let out
a burp. Any drunk with.

Speaker 15 (44:39):
She likes her food and doesn't mind the unladylike behaviors there.
So she's coughing. And so do you feel that in
general that she's besides this cough at night that she
seems to have, you know, some slowing down not eating, Well,
did you perceive that pretty much?

Speaker 9 (44:53):
Yeah, her favorite thing in the world. There is a
like a handball, a blue ball, and we had to
put it away because as soon as she gets, you know, excited,
she'll start she'll start hacking.

Speaker 15 (45:07):
Okay, all right, so tell me what what has been
done for her so far? And is there anything you're
pursuing right now.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
Well, here's here's the tough part. My wife did, you know,
take take the dog to the vet, probably about a
month ago, and so I went back to the vet
to kind of beg them to prescribe a medication for
her cough. What they're looking at is, of course, was
a blood panel for about one hundred and fifty bucks.

(45:36):
And then when I went back, they said, well, we
definitely would have to do x rays to confirm. So
that's another visit plus the x rays. That's one hundred
and ninety dollars. And from what I gathered, there is
no cure. There's only a kind of Ah, Okay.

Speaker 15 (45:53):
I'm going to back you up here, Jacob, because we
don't have a diagnosis yet. And that's part of my
concern is for sure being something for what we don't
really know what condition is going on. And the reason
I'm kind of backpedaling here is because if we're gonna
presume that a dog has something like genetic or something anatomical,
say like a collapsing trachea. That kind of problem tends

(46:17):
to be present throughout their lifetime, and it doesn't unless
we're in extreme situations, it doesn't really cause them a
decrease in equality of life. So for me, if I
am presented with a pet that is coughing and especially
can't make it through the night, and maybe we're off
on food a little bit, and this kind of behavior
hasn't been present throughout their lifetime, it really warrants looking into.

(46:38):
So I would concur with your veterinarian that I think
those tests are very sound things to do to get
us a better feel what we're up against. Because throwing
a cough suppresent at her, if she's having some kind
of heart problems developing, could be a very detrimental or
even fatal thing. So we want to make sure we're
treating the right thing and giving you the right pills.
So definitely, you know, these type of tests, there are

(47:01):
fees with them, and those aren't terribly off, you know,
I'd say in the area that I practice, you know,
you're still you know, maybe we're probably like twenty bucks
less on some of those things than what you had mentioned,
but still those are those are pretty valid fees there,
so you know, if you need to pick and go ahead.

Speaker 9 (47:18):
If they were to, let's say, run a blood panel
and then they found the specifics, it's almost like a
human being. They're looking at specifics on the chemical on
let's say a heart problem, but they just, you know,
pretty much roll out the trachey and say, well, you
unfortunately her ticker is right.

Speaker 15 (47:37):
So yeah, and you know that's it depends on how
we want to approach it and how much suspicion the
veterinarian has. Now there's times when I'm listening to a
dog's heart and I'll say, you know, there's something really
wacky going on right here, and it can kind of
help me to encourage a pet owner that I have
a strong index of a suspicion that there's something we're
going to find. So for me, sometimes I'll pick an

(47:57):
X ray first over blood work. Sometimes I think it's
prudent to do both of those at the same times.
And I probably can't say specifically in your pet situation
what the case may be, but I would definitely think
that you know what you're describing sounds like we do
need to get some kind of diagnostics to decide that
and to see are we going to be going down
the respiratory pathway or are we looking at more of

(48:18):
a heart based problem. And because the medicines are different,
and you know, you know, even if you're not looking
at doing a lot of really crazy tests, those are
two basic things that I would say are going to
help your veterinarian and determine what is the best course
of action to go. Does that make sense?

Speaker 9 (48:34):
There's a little yeah, oh yeah, definitely, there's a you know, unfortunately,
there's a little hesitancy based on kind of treatments in
the past of stupid allergies, you know. And one year
she she took a shot that really worked excellent throughout
the summer, and then the following year it was like
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(48:59):
then there was a horrific incident. My brother had a
purebred lab that I guess she wasn't feeling well, but
they took her to the vet. It was a different vet,
and they said, you know, everything looks great, and the
next day the dog dropped dead.

Speaker 15 (49:12):
Oh goodness, Well you know, Jacob, sometimes it's a matter
of also just kind of if you're not feeling that
relationship with the veterinarian. Definitely I admire and I definitely
think it's every ped owner's right to seek a second opinion.
So you might just be time to maybe pick up
the phone, check around, and if you're not feeling it
with your regular vet, you know, see if someone else
has a different opinion. But I can tell you my

(49:33):
opinion is that I think that what the recommending certainly
sounds good, and it sounds like something you know, we
need at least embrace some some testing in some format.
So I hope, I hope your baby does okay with that.
And there's definitely things we can try if we do
have to say a collapsing tracheo or some other chronic
respiratory problem. There's cough suppressed and sometimes there's broncho dilators
that help to open the airways, and you know, even

(49:54):
sometimes antibiotics are indicated, So there's a lot of things
we might be able to do. I you know, I'd
say we just need to take that first step and
get your baby back to the VET.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Thanks for your call, Jacob. To my left doctor Debbie
answering your vet medical questions to my Right, dog trainer
Alan Cable, dog father Joey Volani, and animal communicator Joey Turner.

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You know, I got a theory, you know, I got
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(50:40):
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Speaker 7 (50:56):
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Here's a sound you never want to hear. Fact is
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(51:17):
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Speaker 2 (54:21):
Hey, let's go to Nick. Hey, Nick, how are you doing?

Speaker 5 (54:23):
How you doing?

Speaker 19 (54:24):
You're taking my call?

Speaker 2 (54:25):

Speaker 14 (54:26):
Call from Jersey, Jersey?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Jay Zy, You're I love Jersey. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (54:31):
All right? I got him intor Schnauzer and he's three
years old. We just rescued him from a shelter. Robbin
issues taking him for a walk. Every time we go
to take him for a walk, he starts getting uh,
I guess you say, overly excited, starts uh screeching and
almost like almost like he's yelling you can't take him
any probably about a quarter mile away from the house,
not even and then all the dogs start barking in

(54:54):
the neighborhood and just starts throwing attention, and soon we
turn around and start going home, he stops. So we're
just curious on how to fix it and what we
can do.

Speaker 14 (55:06):
To help him.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
Well, I'm glad you called Nick. It's great to talk
to you, buddy, And I can tell you this. I
would guess if I were with you observing you, you're
probably very tense and anxious when you take your dog
for a walk until you start turning around to go
home and then you probably are totally mellowed out and
your calm or yourself. Is that true?

Speaker 5 (55:26):
I guess you could say that, but you know I've
also you know, I understand that whole.

Speaker 20 (55:31):
No, I got to be calm for him to be calm.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
So I have tried that whole you know, the whole technique.
It just doesn't seem to work.

Speaker 7 (55:38):
It's not a technique, buddy, it's a way of life.
And again, like I was talking to another lady, people
try things, they say, oh it's not working, and they
give up. But trying something and being something are two
different things. It's not that you're trying to be calm,
and it's not that you're acting calm. It's that you
are calm twenty four to seven inside your mind, your heart,

(56:00):
your soul, your body. And understand that your dog is
very insecure and to give a dog like that confidence,
you have to be confident, and you have to do
it forever, and it takes time. It's not the kind
of thing where you're going to walk that dog and
that dog is going to be cured after one time.
You got to take baby steps. It's just like teaching
a baby to ride a kid to ride a bike.

(56:21):
You know, you just don't shove a kid on a
bike and push him out into the middle of the street.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Right.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
You hold out, you put the training wheels on, you
hold the seat, you give your child pep talks. It's
a process, and to give a dog like that confidence
as a process. So what you might try doing is
instead of taking your dog for a long walk, you
start with little, tiny walks. You walk your dog in
your backyard until he's really comfortable, and then you take
your dog for a walk out in front of the

(56:46):
house until he's really comfortable and calm and secure and confident.
You don't talk to him, you just walk him, You
lead him, and then you go further and further from
the house over time. And then when you notice your
dogs starting to get ten Like let's say you start
and everything's going well and you're about one hundred yards
from the house and your dog starts to get agitated.
You turn around and go home because you notice your

(57:09):
dog's agitated. You take baby steps and you tell your dog,
good boy when he's calm and nick, this is gonna
take time, buddy, this is gonna take okay. So it's
baby steps it's you believing inside your heart's soul and
mind that you're calm and not acting calm and checking

(57:29):
yourself constantly. Is my arm relaxed? Am I feeling calm?
Am I standing erect? Am I looking forward? Am I
acting like a leader?

Speaker 20 (57:36):
From my dog?

Speaker 7 (57:37):
Does my dog feel like I'll protect him? Am? I?
There for him? And it's not talking. The less talking
the better. Okay, when you're walking your dog, do not
talk to him.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Just walk as far as the least goes longleat right.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Well, that's interesting. You want your dog to be right
along your side. If he's in front of you, you
are not the leader. He is the leader. So if
you're dogg is leading you, you stop walking immediately. You
just stand there and you reel him back in. You
want him on your left side, right at your knee,
right on your side, never in front. That's what teaches
a dog. You're in charge, you're the leader. When you

(58:14):
leave your house, you leave the house first. The dog
is never in front. When you come home, you enter
the house first. Your dog is never in front. When
your dog comes into a room, it's because you've invited
him into the room. Start thinking about all the things
you do every day that tell your dog either I'm
a leader or I'm a follower. Dogs like toys and

(58:36):
food and all that stuff. You're in charge of everything.
It's all you. You own it all. And a lot
of people think that's mean, but that's dog world, that's
dog communication. That's how dogs act and think. They don't
want to be in charge. And if a dog has
control of toys or food or anything like that, at
that moment, you are not his leader. He is your leader.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
God you Okay, thank you, thanks for listening.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
Have a good day.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I will, I will have a good.

Speaker 7 (59:01):
Day, Doctor Debbie. I have done extensive research, you know,
studying and doing all kinds of different what do you
call them, seminars and the you know, yeah, I've been
in seclusion. I've been in seclusion basically with the monks,
trying to figure this thing out. And I've got two
things for you. One of them I thought would be

(59:23):
very interesting for you. The other one I think will
get you extremely stoked. First of all, did you guys
know that the outdoor temperature can be estimated within several
degrees by timing the chirps of a cricket. I know that,
doctor w I did not know that. I like that.
That is cool. Even I knew that you count the
number of chirps in a fifteen second period, then you

(59:45):
add thirty seven and it works with fahrenheit, but only
when it's warm. That only works when it's warm. Okay,
now here's my other one, doctor DeBie. This is gonna
get you so excited, Doctor Debbie. Did you know that
there is a certain living thing that remains pregnant for
its whole life?

Speaker 15 (01:00:01):
A certain living thing that remains pregnant. First of all,
this is one of those brains user ones.

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
This, this is absolutely the truth.

Speaker 15 (01:00:08):
A woman that has twenty nine kids.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Some female, some female cockerroaches mate once and they're pregnant
for the rest of their lives. Wow, that's cool.

Speaker 15 (01:00:18):
Okay that that trump's the cricket that it really does.

Speaker 14 (01:00:22):
See that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
I'm excited. I'm gonna have a great week.

Speaker 15 (01:00:29):
Thank you for the entertainment. I appreciate it, Alan, And yes,
maybe books get me excited and I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:00:34):
Really know it. Join us, join us next time for
will this get doctor DEBI excited?

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This is an animal Radio news date.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
I'm Stacey Cohen four Animal Radio. A man in Miami
is responsible for capturing and killing the largest Burmese python
ever recorded in Florida. According to the Florida Fish and
Wildlife Conservation Commission, this record breaking serpent was a one
hundred and twenty eight pound female measured eighteen feet eight
inches in length. Now that shattered the previous record of

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seventeen feet seven inches. Apparently, Miami resident Jason Leon was
driving in a rural area of Miami Dade County when
he and a passenger spotted this giant reptile on the
roadside brush well. He grabbed the snake by the head
and he began pulling it out of the brush. First
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That's when this python began wrapping itself around his leg.
After he got some help from his buddies, Leon killed
the snake with a knife. Kristen Summers of the Florida
Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the Commission is grateful
to Leon for safely removing the large snake and then
reporting it to authorities. He's likely to have his leg.
A rare nineteenth century torpedo is back in the Navy's

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hands thanks to the works of a few bottlenosed dolphins.
The La Times reports Navy owned dolphins discovered a how
torpedo while being trained to track down underwater objects off
the California coast. Only one of the antique underwater weapons
was known to exist prior to the discovery. The dolphins
are trained to use their natural sownar to discover objects
that not even billion dollar military technology can detect. The

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torpedo is bound for the Washington Naval Yard, where it'll
be cleaned and then put on display. A designer in
Seattle's come up with an easy way to transform an
average house cat into King or the Jungle, the lion hat.
Umiko Landers told metro dot UK that the idea for
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something to fit the cats and dogs theme that week,
Landers came up with the so called hat that allows
the cat to sport a Lion's main product even comes
in multiple colors, including golden brown, black, gray, ivory, and husky.
Landers sells the hats online through Etsy. I don't know
if you've ever seen that website.

Speaker 7 (01:04:10):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
It's got a lot of craft stuff that's Etsy and
say she never would have expected it to be getting
so many orders from all over the world. The American
Heart Association has declared that pets, especially dogs, guess what
they're good for a person's heart, further proof that dogs
are among the best friends a person can have. Doctor
Glenn and Levine, director of Baylor University's Cardiatric Care Unit,

(01:04:32):
was quoted in a press release from the AHA saying
pet ownership, particularly dog ownership, is probably associated with the
decreased risk of heart disease. He said that owning a
dog may help reduce cardiovascular risk because dogs bug their
owners into taking them for walks on a regular basis,
and dog owners were, according to the AHA study, fifty
four percent more likely than non dog owners to get

(01:04:54):
a suggested amount of exercise. So good news, no doubt.
Get out there with your dog. I'm Stacey Cohen. Get
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Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
It's Animal Radio and underlying theme to today's show is
the obese factor. We're talking about a lot of animals
that have, Well, they're a little bit overweight, and here
in the studio, and I'm sure doctor Debbie will agree that, well,
three of the four animals, four of the probably weigh

(01:05:49):
just a little too much. So we're guilty of this too.
But these are animals that are way overweight. In fact,
we were supposed to talk to the lady who has
ob who is the docson who weighed seven pounds, And
apparently she's in a custody battle with that dog now
that it's a famous dog, and you are unable to
get a hold of her, maybe because of the lawsuit.

(01:06:11):
We don't know, We don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:06:12):
I'm still trying to reach you, so we'll find.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Out more in just a couple of minutes. I also
mentioned a couple of weeks ago about this cat that
was hanging out at McDonald's and yeah, I know, just horrible,
eating all the food there, living on the diet of
McDonald's for over a year until someone came along and
realized this cat just doesn't look good. McDonald's is not

(01:06:34):
doing this cat any good. And that person I believe
is Bridgid Bull. Hey Bridget, how are you doing?

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
Hi?

Speaker 19 (01:06:39):
I'm doing I'm doing very well. How we're talking to
you today?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yeah, where are you?

Speaker 19 (01:06:45):
I'm on a remote sheep and beef farm in New Zealand.
I'm talking to you, talking to you to you from
my home today, but I work from for the Wycato SPCA.
And it was my colleague Jessica What's who rescued Frankie
from his life of terrible fast food habits?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
So what Frankie just hung out in a McDonald's and
people would feed Frankie.

Speaker 19 (01:07:10):
Frankie was astray. He was abandoned when his owners left
their apartment block, and he basically took up residents in
at the drive through, and he learned that people would
toss in scraps. And yes, he lived at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
What was his favorite McDonald's item?

Speaker 19 (01:07:33):
Do you know? Well, he had two he liked. He
liked the burger patties the meat inside. People would order
one for themselves, the extra one for Frankie. And the
little chicken nuggets. I don't know do you have them
in America? You know they kind of bite size. You
can imagine you could toss onto the cat, Snapple it up.

(01:07:55):
I think those were his two favorites. Yeah, was he
overweight when we brought it in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Yes, was he overweight?

Speaker 19 (01:08:01):
No, he was not overweight when we brought him in.
My colleagues, he was so. I worked for the White
Hat of SBCA. We're a charitable organization in New Zealand
that an animal welfare organization, and we rescue, amongst other things,
we rescue and rehome stray animals. And we've been keeping

(01:08:23):
an eye on Frankie for a year or so. But
he was healthy, you know, he was a healthy animal,
and we don't have capacity to take in healthy strays
off the street. So it was not until we noticed
that his condition was deteriorating that we thought we actually
we have to act. So he was not overweight, No,

(01:08:44):
but his fur became mative, his eyelids, his third eyelids
were up, and his face had become very swollen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
But this is actually the same thing that's happened to
Alan Cable here, a big max.

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
I actually have them pumped in directly.

Speaker 15 (01:09:06):
In and this is this is the proof that you
don't necessarily have to look at a pet and see
a fat pat to know that they're not eating right.
So nutritional deficiencies come in all sorts of ways. How
sad for Frankie, how is he doing.

Speaker 19 (01:09:20):
He's doing very well. I understand he's doing extremely well.
We did find him a new home. It was quite
a process. There was a lot of demand for this cat,
you know, because he's got quite a story behind him.
He's doing well, he's eating well.

Speaker 15 (01:09:36):
Do they have to feed the McDonald's.

Speaker 19 (01:09:38):
No, I understand they're no longer feeding McDonald.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
But he's taken the regular cat food now, yes, he has.

Speaker 19 (01:09:46):
You will have seen in the in the news that
it took a while when Jessica Watson took him home.
She fostered this this who was then a very unhealthy animal,
took him home and produced from Hills Science diets, which
is what we used the animals at the spa. He's

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you know, I thought, what is this? You know, can
I have frides with that? No, he wasn't interested. So
it's just took him a while and eventually, you know,
he got to like the isn't the regular cat food?
And he's he's doing much better for it. Now.

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
How old would you?

Speaker 19 (01:10:25):
I don't know, actually did an adult.

Speaker 7 (01:10:29):
Jerry spring though? Pardon never mind, I'm just being stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
I gotta I gotta ask, what is the takeaway lesson
from this, Okay, I.

Speaker 19 (01:10:40):
Would say the takeaway lesson for us as an animal
welfare organization is that we we have a problem with
stray cats in this country, in our city in New Zealand,
because people are not desecting their animals, you know, so
they had too many cats, they can't afford to feed them,

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they can't afford to look after them, and they throw
them out on the streets. So we end up the SPCA.
We end up as a sort of ambulance at the
bottom of the cliff taking in sick, stray, malmarished animals
for whatever reason, when people people should be taking responsibility
for the welfare of their animals and getting them to sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
We talked to what some nutcase four weeks ago, five
weeks ago, maybe a little over a month ago, or
one of your politicians I believe, who's trying to do.
Did you the guy who wants to get rid of
all the cats?

Speaker 19 (01:11:40):
Oh? You spoke to Gareth Morgan. He's a leading businessman
and entrepreneur and philanthropist.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Big, big cat problem there in New Zealand. I guess
we have.

Speaker 19 (01:11:51):
Yes, we do have a big problem with stray and
feral cats in New Zealand And and that's why the
works that the SBCA doing them my colleagues are doing
to reduce cat numbers basically by we educate the public
on the importance of having having their animals de sex.
When I say reduce cat numbers, I'm a cat lover.

(01:12:14):
Cats will make wonderful pets and people love their cats.

Speaker 9 (01:12:17):
We love them too, yes, exactly.

Speaker 19 (01:12:19):
The problem is with strays. Yes, so we do have
a big stray cat from them, and we're working with
people to educate on the importance of the sex thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
You're doing good work and I appreciate you spending time
with us. It's going to be early there. What time
is it.

Speaker 19 (01:12:32):
It is seven minutes past day from the Sunday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for spending time.

Speaker 19 (01:12:38):
With us and telling us my pleasure. That's my absolute pleasure,
and thanks for your time. Today.

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Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
We head to Marge. Hey, Marge, how are you ted?

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Right now, I'm in Oklahoma, truck driver.

Speaker 14 (01:14:13):
Yes, okay, I have an English MASKI she's eight months old,
and I had her training for a while to be
able to walk without dragging me across the street and
to come on a halt command. But she does real
good at halt command at home, like if she's in
the backyard and I yell holt, she comes right to me.

(01:14:35):
But when I stop on the road, like I always
try to stop where there's an open fuel where I
can let her run, she doesn't come on the halt command.
When I can, I tell her. Now I use streets,
like when she starts coming to me, finally I tell
her come and then I give her a three. But
it seems like she just ignores me when I'm yelling
hope for her to come to me.

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
Well, you know that's she's eight months old. And what
you said is real interesting that you use treats because
that's a good technique. But just so you know, until
your dog is able to come to you whenever you call,
you probably shouldn't let her off leash in strange places.
That's probably something you shouldn't do. And the way to
train your dog to come to you, it's a good
technique with treats. When she's really into treats. You have

(01:15:17):
a leash on her and you just sort of stand
there and let the leash out and tell her to come,
and when she comes, you give her a treat, and
you do it over and over and over again, and
then you stop giving her treats, but you give her affection.
One thing you don't want to do. A lot of
people do that. I see. They make a terrible mistake.
They get really frustrated when their dog doesn't come, and
then when their dog finally does come, they punish the dog.

(01:15:40):
So if you're doing that, you're sending the dog a
message good for you, girl, because you don't want to
do that. Now. The reason why your dog doesn't come
when you're in a strange place and you let her
go on a field is because there's way more interesting
things than you in that field that she's distracted by.
And if there's more fun away from you than there
is with you, she's gonna go oh to where the

(01:16:00):
fun is. Especially at eight months old, she's going to
want to explore, and she's going to want to go kooky,
and she is not going to pay any attention to
you until she learns to respect you and look at
you as a leader, and that takes time and patience
and consistency. And I would not let her off a
leash if I were you, unless it's a fenced place,
because she is not going to pay attention to you

(01:16:21):
for a while. You've got to work with her extensively.
And as I told one caller, remember you may train
your dog fifteen twenty minutes a day, but your dog
is watching you another twenty three hours and forty five
minutes a day. And whatever you're doing, you're teaching your
dog whether you're a leader or you're not. So you've
got to act like a leader and check yourself before
you wreck yourself. Constantly when you're with a dog, you

(01:16:42):
got to think about what you're doing and how you're acting.
Act like a leader, and your dog will treat you
like a leader. But remember, you've got to work with
your dog every day on this exercise until she learns
to come to you every single time you call, because
if not, what happens is one day your dog gets
hit by a car.

Speaker 14 (01:17:00):
Well, that's why I always go in a big open
field where we're not buy anything. Okay, I just feel
bad because she doesn't get a whole lot of exercise
in one word.

Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
Well, there you go, there you go. That's the number one.
The number one cardinal rule of teaching a dog that
you're a leader is you can't feel bad. Okay, if
you feel bad, you've instantly lost. When you feel bad inside,
you are not a leader. You're not treating your dog
like a leader. You're not being a leader. What you're
doing is you're you're having a human emotion of guilt.

(01:17:29):
And when you feel guilty, you cannot be an effective
leader of a dog. You can't do it.

Speaker 14 (01:17:35):
Okay, I listen to you, guys. I just found you
guys a couple of weeks ago, so I've been listening
in to it. I just maybe I'm just so expected
too much too soon.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Well, you are a girlfriend, she's only eight months old.
You can get one of those fifty foot retractable leashes too,
and you can let her go and pay no attention
to you, you know, and let her do her thing,
and then you call her, you say, come, and if
she doesn't pay attention to you, give a little joke,
give a little give a little tug of the leash. Come, okay,
give a little jokes. Only do it twice though, If
she doesn't listen, retract the leash, bring it in, stop talking,

(01:18:12):
stand there, and when she starts paying attention to you,
you look at her and go good dog. Then then
do it over and over and over and over and
over again, never stop until she learns to stop what
she's doing. You know, I have a dog. He could
be chasing a bunny and I'll go, hey, stop and
he stops in his tracks and comes to me. That
takes months and months and months of work.

Speaker 14 (01:18:33):
Okay, all right, that's the find me what I needed
to hear. I do have one question on these English mastives.
Are they good dogs for? Are they stubborn? Or are
they you know, like I know, like I used to
have a sharp pay and I couldn't do anything with
that sharp pay. But are they English Mastives? Are they
good dogs?

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
The only dogs that you know, you really it's hard
to train him to do stuff. It's not that they're stubborn,
it's just because of the way they are. They're breed,
you know, a chow dogs and also huskies and malamutes.
They're kind of aloof you know, they're kind of hard
to train. They don't act like your normal dog. They
kind of act like cats, so they're a little bit
different and you have to treat them differently. They're powerful

(01:19:14):
dogs and you know, they're bread to pull sleds and
child dogs, I guess at one time guarded palaces and
so they're very independent. But I don't really have much
experience with an English mastif, although a lot of people
are getting those dogs now. I would just assume doctor
Debbie probably no more than me that you know pretty much,
they're like any other dog, and you've just got to
be their leader.

Speaker 14 (01:19:34):
Okay, Well, I appreciate you guys talking to me, and
I'm not giving up on her, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:19:40):
Don't give up on her. But stop feeling guilty. That's
a human emotion. Dogs don't feel guilty. You shouldn't either.

Speaker 14 (01:19:45):
Okay, well, I'll get along your leash. I have a
watching leash, and than I am the ones that she
can retracked out, but I don't think it's fifty feet,
so I'll get one of those.

Speaker 7 (01:19:55):
Good luck to you, March.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Thanks for listening to Animal Radio March. Tell a friend
about it if you will. Well, that's all we have
time for today. Thank you so much for joining us.
I want to thank all the people that made this
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