Building Pet Friendly Homes - Banning Pet Piercings and Tattoos - The Animal Radio® Show

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio,
featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Vallani, news director
Laurie Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios, here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well. I honestly didn't know there was a fad for
tattooing or piercing of pets, but apparently there is an
Joys Assembly when Carmelo Garcia is going to be joining us,
he's trying to push through legislation to ban pet tattooing
and piercing.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Did you remember there a long time ago, well a
few years ago, that girl was doing the Gothic kids.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes, I do remember that. Yeah, that's what influenced that.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
In fact, I don't like it. I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
I got to be honest with you. Tattooing. Tattooing, for
I D is one thing. You know, when they tattoo
a pet, to let them know that it's been spade
in case it gets lost to something like that, but
actually to put some sort of you know, some sort
of art on a pets body.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
You know that they don't have any I don't say it.
I don't like it. I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
All beautiful enough. They do not need enhancements. They're beautifully enough.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, I'm looking at a picture right now of a
chihuahua with stud ear rings, and uh, he doesn't look
very happy. I'll tell you that right now, Doctor Debbie.
What's all that all over your coat?

Speaker 7 (01:17):
Yeah, it's anal gland material. And I have to tell
you the laundry. I'm still working on laundry here at work.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So we got to do laundry there too.

Speaker 8 (01:26):
Well, when the unexpected happens.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
Yeah, so I've been blessed today, so you know, it
is like you know, for Catholics, it's kind of a
time of the year. So yes, I have the anal
gland blessing into the veterinary blessing that gets squirted all
over me.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh gosh, that's you. That smells too, right.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, I take full responsibility for that odor.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Let's head to the phones right now. Hey, Kitty, welcome
to the show. Hello, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (01:50):
Well, I have a cat that is too fat. She
doesn't groom herself, and I was wondering if I could
get her share instead of you know, listening with the
hairballs and having her brushed out because I have to
take her to the vet.

Speaker 10 (02:06):
And they have to the.

Speaker 9 (02:08):
Date and then brush her out because she won't let
me do it.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
So she doesn't. She's not happy being groomed either, is
that correct?

Speaker 9 (02:17):
No to do it?

Speaker 5 (02:22):
She bites you if you try to do it, Okay,
So that's something believe me. A nasty cat is a
lot more dangerous than a nasty dog. They have a
lot of types of bacterias in their mouth and when
they bite you sometimes it could be pretty pretty nasty.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Is it a long or short haired cat?

Speaker 9 (02:39):
First of all, she's long haired?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Okay? Okay? And have you ever had had a groomer
work on the cat? Okay?

Speaker 5 (02:49):
What I would try, Not that I'm trying to take
anything out of the veterinarian's hands, but sometimes in a
grooming song on a professional groomer, because they do it
all the time, may have a lot more success removing
the knots and tangles. Now, depending upon how serious they are,
would really determine, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
If they can remove them or not.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
A lot of times, the cat, though, even though it
seems like this hopeless, if you take your time and
you have two people work on the cat where they
take the time and the cat's not stressed out. A
lot of times you could work it out. Now, can
you clip the cat down? You absolutely can, But my
question to you is did you ever do that before
to this particular cat. Sometimes what happens is when you

(03:35):
clip cats down short, because there really isn't you don't
have much of a variation. You either have to go
real short or you gotta leave it full coated, and
that's only because of safety reasons. The blade that you
have to use on the cat cuts to one eighth
of an inch off of the skin, so basically it's bald.
What happens is a lot of times the cats know

(03:58):
that there is a chain, they don't know exactly what
it is. And sometimes we're going to a state of
depression with a hide or you know, I mean just
just not want to see anyone because they're embarrassed of
you know, what has become what has become of them.
Even though they don't know exactly what it is, they
just know what's a change. If you do have to

(04:19):
do that, the most important thing is is you don't
want to laugh at the cat. You don't want to
change anything, because believe me, they know, they know if
they're being laughed at, they know if it's you know,
if it's a different situation.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
So if it has to be clipped down, I would.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Use it as the last resort, but I would try
your professional groom of first.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
For a couple of reasons.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
I wouldn't want to sit day a cat unless I've
really really had to him, because it's not real. You know,
it's not real good on this system, and the groom
will tell you within the first ten minutes of the
groom and either call you up and say listen, please
come pick up your cat.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
We can't do it.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
And then in that situation you'll have to go to
your veterinarian and do what's ever necessary at that time.
But if you get a good cat groomer, a lot
of times they'll put two people on the cat. One
holds the cat, wear the cat can't bite to scratch
the other one and after a while, if you take
your time, sometimes they calm down a little bit, especially
if it's in an environment with is no dog's balking

(05:15):
and it's a little bit quiet and no calm down.
And sometimes like the professional grooming and The good thing
about that is it also may make the cat like
to be brushed at home and you know, break that
that whole cycle.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Unfortunately, I wish I had a miracle spray that I
could tell you about, but there's not. It's just it's
just you know, just brushing and calmbing, and you know,
I would try that first and hopefully it can help
you out there.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
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Our next caller. Her name is Glee.

Speaker 11 (06:21):
Hey, Glee, Hey, how how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Very well? Where are you calling from?

Speaker 10 (06:26):
I'm calling from West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
West Virginia. Okay, very beautiful talk to.

Speaker 11 (06:30):
You before what a while?

Speaker 8 (06:33):
I recognize your voice, Glee. Yes, we've talked about So
what's going on?

Speaker 10 (06:39):
Well, I have two parakeets. Their names are Spinelli and Maxie.
Spinelli is almost three years old. Maxie is a year old.
They're doing their little damp and the praining to the readings.
He'll go or to your box. Sometime she'll go over,

(07:01):
sometimes she won't. And what's going on that they're not
wanting to breed or what can I do that maybe
can help them with getting them to breed?

Speaker 8 (07:11):
How long have they been together?

Speaker 10 (07:13):
They've been together almost a year.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Alrighty, Because the most important thing is that we talk
about pair bonding and it's kind of like throwing two
strangers together and asking them to be a permanent family unit.
So it can happen, but it helps that they have
kind of that connection. So that's very important in the
birds for breeding right off to.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
That that they have that or they don't.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
They do they have that connection.

Speaker 9 (07:39):
I was afraid that.

Speaker 10 (07:39):
When I got her that he wouldn't like her, but
he actually right off the start, as soon as I
put her in a cage, he started connecting with her.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
Good, good and we're certain where you're dealing with a
boy and a girl, that's always important as well.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
And the girl okay, and we know that because of
the color of the seer.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
So you got your boy with a dark blue sere, right,
and the girls get the light the whiter camp okay, perfect.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You have the very wide and the lighting right right,
you have the very white CD on in the background
and the lighting kind of damn right.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
There's no wine and.

Speaker 10 (08:16):
The TV.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Oh they love the TV.

Speaker 10 (08:19):
Oh well, they love the V. I actually named them
after a couple of people in General Hospital, and when
that show comes on, they literally goes the birk.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Oh funny.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Oh well, you know, maybe we had again watching daytime
in the soap operas. That might be the thing to
make a love connection here.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
You know.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Well, I guess some guidelines that we talk about when
we're trying to get little parakeets to breed, and you
may be already doing these things, so I put these
on your checklist, make sure you are or aren't doing them,
and hopefully we can get everything ideal. If not, sometimes
you can't make it happen. Sometimes I'll actually have other
breeding pairs in the same room because that kind of

(09:02):
gets the hormones fly in and may mean for that
we have a better breeding situation if there's others in
the same area, you know, going on the on the
nest and having babies there. So make sure your temperature
in the area. We want to keep it around sixty
five to seventy five. We want to cover the babies
at night, probably about twelve okay, twelve hours of darkness

(09:24):
would be best. And then in their enclosure because we're
going to be asking the mom to be making eggs
and we want good calcium and vitamin D using a
full spectrum a light so similar to that you will
find in aquariums, so in pet stores where you have
reptiles that need vitamin D. Yeah, so that can be helpful.

(09:47):
Now for birds that are housed outside, they're getting natural
lighte that's not a problem. But our indoor kept birds,
this is something that we can help enhance and it
is very important for vitamin D. So I make sure
we do that. And then we've got the nesting box.
We try to not disturb them, give them their privacy,
try to keep them on a schedule, clean their cage

(10:09):
about the same time, and kind of let them do
their things.

Speaker 10 (10:12):
Something that I was reading some for pawn ships that
you could put in the box. What time they ate that.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
I didn't hear what you said.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
What were the chips I had?

Speaker 10 (10:23):
I've heard a pine ships putting in the box.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Now I actually just use good old, you know, shredded newspaper.
I think that's probably one of the easiest things. It's
it's it's tidy, and they have a good time with
it as well.

Speaker 10 (10:37):
So right, yeah, so if there's something I could be
feeding them, I've got a mineral block. I've gotta seeds,
and I were saying, yeah, what's they don't like fruit
for vegetables at all. They're very ticky.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
That would be nice if we could get them.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
So, you know, a lot of times we'll have to
just stick with the fortified seed mixes that parakeets are
kind of raised on in pet stores. If we have
them on a pelletted diet, you know, we got a
little bit more bang for your block when it comes
to nutrients if we have to. If we can't get
fresh veggies in, sometimes I'll get creative and make like
little birdy cornbread with veggies in it and see if

(11:15):
we can convince THEE. Yeah, so you can just you know,
make small little muffins, take a good mix of different
green vegetables or even sometimes some of the frozen vegetables
are fine to get started with this and just kind
of make that a little treat for them and hopefully
we can kind of trick them into getting a little
nutrients like that in there.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So we wish you the best of luck with that,
Glee and all of our romantic wishes are going your way.

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Speaker 1 (13:06):
Live at the Red Barn Studios. You're listening to Animal Radio.
Here's Alan Judy.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Just a few minutes, we'll talk to Assemblyman Carmelo Garcia,
who wants to outlaw or at least band tattooing and
piercing of your animals. Just in case you were thinking
of getting that studied earring for your kiddy cat.

Speaker 14 (13:24):
Don't do it.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
No, no, no, think twice about that before you do that. There.
How about a nose ring?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah no, no nose ring. No, I can't do that either.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
No, no enhancements. They look beautiful the way they are
listing alone.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
They sure do. I'm with you there on that Tammy. Hey, Tammy,
what are you working on in the newsroom?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Anyway?

Speaker 6 (13:39):
I got another one of those warnings, and it's it's
one to just keep in the back of your mind
about the heartworm medication trifaxus. There have been some dog
deaths and the FDA is keeping an eye on this,
So if you're going to use the product, gotta keep
your eye on your animal.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Really important. We'll find out more about that. Just a
couple of minutes with Tammy Tree here what she does news?
Hey Tracy, how are you doing.

Speaker 15 (14:03):
I'm good, Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Be thankfully girl on that side of the phone.

Speaker 15 (14:08):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 16 (14:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (14:09):
When you hear my problem, you might not be you
might not think I'm so grateful.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 15 (14:14):
Oh okay, Well I have a two fold problem. The
biggest at this point is my cat, who's probably about
ten eleven years old, has been well behaved all the
way up till maybe last year, and now he's missing
the box. You know, he's he was moving outside of

(14:36):
the litter box, not urinating, but he's desiccating outside of
outside of the litter box. And I noticed there's some
sort of pattern as well, where when I'm coming home
in the morning, I opened the garage and you know,
he's he's just done his business, and you know, I
clean it up, I feed him, and I go on

(14:57):
about my business and I hope it gets better, and
I the box and then he does it again.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
And is he pooping in relation to the litter box?
Where is he pooping?

Speaker 15 (15:09):
Well, the litter boxes in a guest room that has
no bed or anything but has carpets. That's no good anymore.
But he's sometimes he goes behind the box like I've
freshly scooped the box, because if he's hiding behind the box,
sometimes it's in the middle of the rug and the
room is relatively small.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Okay, but it's not happening in other parts of the house.
It's happening in the room where the litter box is,
and there's only.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
One box there.

Speaker 15 (15:36):
I'm sorry, Sagan, it's.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Not happening in other rooms of the house.

Speaker 11 (15:40):
It's not.

Speaker 15 (15:42):
The room is gatedself because I have Springer Spaniel fitter
indoor dogs and they'll eat cat food. Though I've gated
that room off so that he can jump over the
gate and his food's on that side, which is kind
of strange to me. I would think he wouldn't want
to poop where he eats, but I don't.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
Know, okay, alrighty, And and is he the only kitty
in the house, and this is the only litter pan
in the house?

Speaker 11 (16:07):
It is?

Speaker 15 (16:07):
And he is, yes, okay.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
All right.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
Well, the number one thing when I hear of a
kitty that's pooping near the box but not inside it,
and they are using the box for urinating, number one
thing I look at is the actual litter environment. So
the actual how nice is the bathroom in the cat's
sense of the word, because account that is defecating in
other parts of the house, we might be thinking other

(16:31):
issues going on, But he's got the idea. He knows
where the boxes and in many cats, they'll poop just
a few feet away, and it's kind of like they're saying,
I almost want to use it, but I'm not going to.
So there are things that I really look at as
we want to give him alternate litter sites, and we
want to kind of play around and give him different
options for the litter pan. So number one is if

(16:54):
you got a cover on your litter pan, I would
take that off. Okay, I experiment with different substrates, so
some kitties just don't always like what.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
We offer them.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
So there are the different clay litters, the scupable litters,
the recyclable product litters, all of those things. We need
to vary that, and you may need to offer a
little schmorgas board of litter boxes in this room normally.
Normally I will also give a litter box site somewhere
else than where the primary box is. And if you

(17:25):
can do that with having the dogs around, I would
encourage you to try, just in case. There can be
for some kitties they have an aversion to a location.
So say something bad happens, he's pooping in the litter box,
he has some pain, maybe has some blood in his stool,
he has a negative experience, so he says, oh, I
don't want to poop back there because something really bad

(17:47):
happened when I was doing that.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
So in those cases they can actually.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Think I just need to go somewhere else and everything's
cool and nothing bad happens. So if that's the case,
a different site can really make a difference in the
psyche of many cats there. But I would say that
would be pretty much how I would handle things now.
For a kitty who's in the double digit years, sometimes
I look at things like other medical problems that can
be going on, and arthritis in a kitty that age

(18:13):
isn't unheard of. So if some sometimes getting into the
box can be an uncomfortable thing, and again they can
associate something uncomfortable with the defecation or the urination in
the box, So maybe a good checkup would be wise.
And for old kitties that have signs of you know,
possible arthritis, I use coolkosamine for them and it can
really make a difference with some of these behavioral problems

(18:36):
where we think it's, you know, just a cat that's
pissed off and doesn't want to use the box, and
it could really be something medically, So yeah, pooped off
or however we should say it. Okay, I think that's
some strategies I would certainly try for this little guy.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay, Tracy, we thank you for your call. Today.

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And I'm Tammy Truchio and there are more worries again
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because I like saying that. You are a Hero of
the week, young lady.

Speaker 22 (24:47):
Oh, well, thank you so much. That's a fabulous honor.
It really is.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Oh.

Speaker 22 (24:55):
I see so many people who do so much good
work out there, and I've felt like I was just one.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Person, you know, So you know what, sometimes just one
person is all it takes because it makes a big difference,
Like you have and what you've done. I'll tell people, well,
let's tell listeners about what you do with the pet
oxygen masks and the Amazon Foundation.

Speaker 22 (25:14):
Well, the Emazon Foundation started off with myself one as
an individual in a community, wanting to make a difference
just from my own pet. And I learned that there
was an apparatus called pet oxygen masks, and it was
something that you gave to a firefighter or or a
first responder, an EMT or a paramedic in the cases

(25:35):
that there were home fires, that our first responders would
be able to save our pets because as it is
right now, all they can do is lay a human
mask aside the pet. And when I found out about that,
I thought, well, you know, I want my pet to
be safe. It wasn't really that much money. The kits
were only seventy five dollars and they only had seventeen

(25:55):
trucks in Anaheim. You know, that didn't seem like too
far of fetch outreach. And I went ahead and did
what it took, and did six months to just make
sure my pet was safe. And what I found in
that six months period was everybody who was our friends
on social media, they all love their animals the way
I did, and they said, I want my pet to

(26:16):
be safe too.

Speaker 21 (26:17):
You know.

Speaker 22 (26:17):
Now, an emergency preparedness is something we never think about.
I mean, we live here and I we all live
here in California. Do you have your pet emergency kid
or even your human emergency kid?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
So these oxygen mask are they primarily just for animals
that are involved in fires? Or is it for other reasons?
And I guess what is the difference between a human
mask and a pet oxygen mask.

Speaker 22 (26:41):
The way we are distributing them, they are allowing the
firefighters to resuscitate the animals, so more often than not,
that is for fires. The difference is the contour to them.
Our human mask has our face has very little contour,
so it's just sort of like putting your hand down
out in front of your face. The human mask is

(27:02):
very very flat, and so that doesn't sit on a
muzzle or a snout. And the masks that we have
have this nice rubber seal on the base of something
that's very cone like shaped, and when that seal goes
over the snout, it closes those jowls very tight and
makes it so that the fresh oxygen can only enter

(27:22):
through the nostril. And that's actually a simulation of proper
pet CPR. We do something that's called mouth the snout
versus they pinch the nose and go through the mouth
for the humans.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, but what about pugs? Do they have the flat
what they've been chasing park cars? The bronchiocephalic are the.

Speaker 14 (27:42):
Shapes?

Speaker 22 (27:43):
There are different shapes, and you know, the human mask
would probably work a little bit better on a pug
than any other dog, but the pet oxygen masks still
also work.

Speaker 24 (27:53):
On the pugs.

Speaker 22 (27:54):
Another flat note, Freeze, Who's Amazon? Who is Emazon? Emazon
is officially my little biker dog. She came from the
local shelter. She was lost her home from the fires,
and I pulled her out of a shelter. She we
believe this half Labrador and half Great Dane. She looks

(28:15):
like about one hundred and ten pound lab and if
you look at emmazen dot com you'll see her in
all of her glory in her sidecar. She's I ride
a motorcycle and I fell in love within a few
days of having Emma live with me, and so I
did what all good bikers do, and I bought my
dog a side car. And thirty eight thousand miles later,

(28:36):
did you wear in my road?

Speaker 14 (28:38):
Am I correct? You have another pet that rides with you?

Speaker 22 (28:41):
Yes, we do have a new pet. The poor little
thing is only a year old, so she is more
in the two thousand, five hundred miles. But I'm thinking
she's going to get a little bit more attention since
she is really a Vietnamese pot bellied pig.

Speaker 14 (28:54):
Oh and she wears the doggles while she rides in
the sidecar.

Speaker 23 (28:58):
Yes, yes we do.

Speaker 22 (28:59):
We wear and little bandanas and that's a lot of
what we get to talk about in our foundation because
while I know that looks just adorable and too cute
going down the road, we really do it for a purpose.
You know, you don't want those eyes drawing drying.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Out, because it's very responsible whole new health issue there.

Speaker 22 (29:19):
We don't want too much in wind going into the
ear canal, so we cover them up with something and
it just happens to be that the bandanas look really cute.
And we drink pedal light when we're on the road
so we don't get dehydrated.

Speaker 14 (29:32):
I'd love to see you through my neighborhood.

Speaker 24 (29:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
You also, well, you're certified in pet first Aida and
you teach classes.

Speaker 22 (29:41):
Yes, we do. We have classes that are local to
southern California that go on. We usually have about one
a month. We're having a pet first Aid class at
a place in Santa Ana called Buffdog and that's on
October twenty fifth, and we have one in November on
the eighth and Huntington Beach and that's at your animal's

(30:04):
best Friend's Doghouse. So I have a website called Doggieanme
dot com and we always advertise them there. And the
Foundation has just started a brand new pet safety series.
So we're going to take one topic a month for
the twelve months of the year and talk about different
topics every month. So at Amazon Foundation you'll be able
to get a little bit of information on it and

(30:25):
perhaps maybe some of your listeners can join us.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's what I was thinking. I think we should hook
up with this young lady here on her monthly topic
and post that over at our side and talk about
that on the air. Can you make that happen? I
will make for those listeners that wonder how what goes
on behind the scenes, you're actually seeing it right now.
We're actually forming an idea and booking the guest exactly.

Speaker 22 (30:45):
That's exactly how it works.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yes, you're doing wonderful work. And the website one more
time is Doggieandme dot Com and that's I E, d
og G I E and spelled out A and d
N dot com and we'll put links everything you've heard
over at Animal radio dot com. Also check out the website.
Also check out Emazonfoundation dot com. As I said, all
the links to today's show over at Animal radio dot com.

(31:07):
Deborah Joe, thank you so much for all the hard
work you do.

Speaker 22 (31:10):
Thank you very much. The call is appreciated, that recognition
is appreciated, but I really do it because this is
the best thing I've ever done in my life, and
it went from a me thing to many of us,
including yourselves, to get out the awareness out there. And
if you don't think you can make a difference, you can,

(31:32):
And if you need to start somewhere small, come join us.
We have all kinds of volunteers opportunities, and we can
get you on your feet and send you out there
and hopefully everybody can make their own difference a little
bit at a time for the pets in this world.

Speaker 14 (31:44):
See what one person can do.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'm going to say anything after that.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Okay, thank you so much. Be well, Debora Joe, thank
you you too.

Speaker 22 (31:51):
Goodbye.

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Speaker 25 (32:57):
This is Animal Radio.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Looks like in just a few weeks we're gonna have
Joyce to Wit on the show from you remember her
from Freeze Company Company.

Speaker 8 (33:06):
She was loved that show, didn't you?

Speaker 14 (33:08):
The dark haired one?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I thought she was actually cuter than the Suzanne Summers
the blonde.

Speaker 14 (33:12):
Everyone everyone, Yeah, was gaga over Suzanne.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, what about you, Joey, You you probably like Suzanne Summers.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Of course, I mean you know, but no, you know
Janet was cute.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yep, yep, oh Janet was her name?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Very good?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
I forgot, remember, I would never I would never know
who Joyce the wit was the Janet.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay, oh, this story just came across my desk about
shepherds in Turkey have now outfitted their sheep monitoring donkeys
with solar panels and battery packs to illuminate the nighttime
isolated fields. So there's now solar power donkeys. Thanks for
that article there, Judy. I appreciate that, but it's really
time for Joey now, and so don't distract me.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
With that kind of stuff. I forgot, I forgot all
about it.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Hey, Joey, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Well?

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I want to talk.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
About the difference of trimming nails with a nail clipper
or a nail trimmer, whatever you want to call it,
or a dremo or a grinder, because it's it.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
First thing I'm gonna say is I don't think that
anyone should really be cutting your pets nails at home,
either go to the groom or go to your vet
narrators for.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
A couple well, for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Number one, you want to have the pet in a
safe environment where the pet is basically, you know, hooked
upright or held properly, not where they're going to jump
around and get injured or actually injure you. Because you know,
most dogs and cats don't like their nails trimmed.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Now, if you're one of these people who you know,
just want to experience the whole experience of it and
want to try it or know how to do it, well,
there's two things. If you get a nail clipper, you
got to make sure that you buy something that's a
pretty good quality. When you go to the store and
you buy a cheap nail clipper, what ends up happening
is usually the first cut, you end up splitting the nail, okay,

(35:00):
which then cause then makes the chip and also could
actually split it right down to the quick, which is
what's gonna make them bleed. A dremo or a file
works a little bit easier for home use because it's
not gonna split the nail, and if you take your
time and go little by little, you can actually just
grind it down to.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Where it needs to be, where you can start to
see that quick peek through.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Now, one thing most people like to go out and
buy a dremal that you would go out and dremal
you know, furniture and make carvings with. And it's not
the dremal you want to use because there's not a
safety shut off on it. And what everybody this is
when you have something that's turning at whatever it is,
five thousand RPMs and it grabs a piece of hair

(35:46):
or a tail or a lip, it's gonna pull it
right off. Okay, So what you want to use is
something that's made for pets that when a little bit
too much pressure is actually applied, it's going to shut down. Basically,
it's gonna slow down. What's not going to injure the pet.
And you know what, some pets like it, some pets don't.
But what I say is if you want to get

(36:07):
your pet used to it turning on and just pet
your dog or your cat and just you know, let
the sound because it's more of the sound than anything else,
and just take your time.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Hallelujah, Joey I gotta say that that tip about not
having pat owners trim the nails. A lot of people
want to do it, and they they start the phobia.
They do it improperly, and then we have pets that
are fearful of having their feet handled, and it makes
a future of horrible nail trims.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Absolutely. I mean I've had that.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
I've had it where we had someone that tried to,
you know, trim their pets nails and they cut them
all the way back and the dog was bleeding profusely
and the woman was screaming on the phone, didn't know
what to do. I told her to bring it in
and we applied a little steptic powder and stop stop
the bleeding. But the dog was traumatized.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
M hm, Okay, well, I guess I lucked out because
I do lady bugs, And yeah, she gets a little nervous,
but I try to stay calm. Judy holds her and
tries to stay calm, and for the most part, we
get it done and we realize that we don't have
to do all of them at one time. You know,
we can do like one paw, although we do if
push came to shove, we do one paw and then
maybe another paw later. You know, we don't want to

(37:16):
freak her out because we don't want it to be
a bad experience. And as soon as we're done with it,
I give her a little bacon treat so she knows
that something good's coming afterwards. Oh there you go, Joey Volloni,
ladies and gentlemen, the dog's father on Animal Radio.

Speaker 25 (37:34):
Hey, it's Vinnie pen your party animal coming at you
on Animal Radio and glad to be here. Hope you're
glad to be listening, you know, one saying that I've
got to tell you. It may be true, it may
not be true. I always encourage the Animal Radio listeners
to shoot me an email at Vinie at animal radio

(37:54):
dot com. But even if this is true, which I
would really find that hard to believe, I'm sick of
hearing it. And that's the saying, Hey, dog's mouths are
cleaner than humans. My two beloved dogs, you know, I
always gave them kisses, kisses on the head, playing with
their ears and them kids, I never really did. I'm
gonna come right out and say it, you know, the

(38:15):
French kiss with my dog or the full on their
tongue lapping at my lips kiss.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I never really did that.

Speaker 25 (38:23):
When I see people doing that, I'm always just, especially
after you've just seen the dog in particular spend a
good twenty minutes giving himself Quite frankly, I'll just I'll
come right out and say a genital bath. And the
person says, oh, come, I you know the dog's mouths
are cleaner than humans. I'm finding it hard to believe.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Is their doggie scope?

Speaker 25 (38:46):
Has anybody? Can I go to a pets I haven't
been in a while? Is there doggie scope? Is their
doggie floss? I know my two dogs didn't get up
in the morning and brush their teeth. So how is
it possib ball that this dog who just ate a
lizard lapped at his own crotch region, maybe even you know,

(39:10):
ate his own feces, or licked another dog's bot His
mouth is really cleaner than your own. You're saying. If
that's the case, then might I suggest you just have
all of your teeth and your gums removed, Just stitch
your mouth up, because if your dog's mouth is cleaner
than yours, then yours should never be allowed to be

(39:32):
open again.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Urban myth, dog's.

Speaker 25 (39:36):
Mouth cleaner than a human's gotta be Mini Penn Party
animal on Animal Radio.

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Speaker 1 (40:57):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Valani, news director
Lour Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios. Here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Coming up this hour, We're going to talk to a
lady who represents Standard Pacific Homes. And Standard Pacific Homes
are just standard.

Speaker 14 (41:19):
Homes, Standard Pacific homes.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
And they build they have actually have twenty seven developments
out of all of their developments that are building pet
friendly housing, actually building these houses for your pets that
include spa stations and beds and all kinds.

Speaker 14 (41:32):
Of specific washer and dryers for your pets.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Wow, that's TVs. TVs for your pets.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
I want one.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yes, Why do the pets need the TV? Again? I
keep forgetting that entertainment It keeps them.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Really, my Niki loves watching television. Doesn't have to be animals,
she just likes the movement.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
No, I think that's leading to the degradation of our
youthful canines as it has for the humans.

Speaker 14 (41:53):
Well, they're going to be couch potatoes. Aren't going to
be out there playing with their bones.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
They're going to be fat and the beast. Yeah and yeah, gosh,
can't do that. No, I want the TV removed from
my new house. That's all I'm saying. So that's on
the way. And also we're gonna be talking to a
guy who's an assemblyman, Carmelo Garcia, a Democrat out of Pobolgan,
New Jersey, Hoboken. I just love that name. And he's
trying to ban pet tattooing and piercing. Apparently that is

(42:18):
a problem. And we'll find out more in just a
couple of minutes right here on Animal right now.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yes, I used to live I used to live about
seven miles from Hoboken.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Eight miles from Hoboken.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
And you are tattooed and pierced.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Im I'm tattooed. No, I'm not pierced. I'm tattooed.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh really, not pierce piercing.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
No, I'm not a piercing guy.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
No needles scare me. Tammy's working hard in the newsroom.
What do you got coming up this hour?

Speaker 6 (42:44):
I've got a story for anybody who's missing their dog,
whose dog has been lost, do not give up hope.
I'm going to tell you about a lady, Lashena Harris
from Memphis and it's been a long time, but her
beautiful bulldog puppy is finally home. So if your dog's
out there somewhere, don't you ever give up hope, because
that dog may be coming home.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh, very very cool story. On the way, I have
a feeling. Here's a fun story out of Chula Vista, California.
Two San Diego County women had to get help from
police after being trapped in a bedroom by the family
cat a cat. The cat, yes, oh yikes. The neighbors
call the cat a ball of fury, and Chulavista Police
tell us that a woman and her adult daughter called
nine one one Tuesday to say they were stuck in

(43:26):
the bedroom because their cat cuppy was in a rage
and wouldn't let them leave the room.

Speaker 9 (43:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Police, Wow, you know what.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I had a cat like that, and I was a
teenager and I would come home from my dates and
the cat would be sitting out in the front yard
and the cat would not let me go up to
my front door. Really oh, he'd come after me on
the sidewalk. I'd run back out to the street and
I woulded up throwing rocks at my parents' window so

(43:55):
that they could get up and open the door because
a cat.

Speaker 14 (43:57):
Would not let me.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
No, he was like this your cat.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Well, he was a cat that actually we kind of
felt sorry for him, and we took him in because
he just showed up at our house. So we started
feeding him and he just hung around the yard and
he was bonkers.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I had an experience like that when I had this.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
I had a grooming salon on a Marstown, New Jersey,
and we used to the parking arme lot was across
the street when it was a February or real cold.
It was the cold. This is one of the coldest
days I can remember. And the next thing I noticed
something like rubbing against my leg and it was this cat. So, oh,
the poor cat, the poor cat. Let's say, you know,
the cat can't stay at the cat's gonna freeze. So

(44:36):
I took the cat home that night. When I got
the cat and the house, the cat turned into a
maniac and was chased. It was attacking me, but like
for a real I wanted it was biting and scratching,
but would would if everywhere I went it would it
would look at you and charge you from across the
room and grab your ankle and bite crazy.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
Dang.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, well, this particular case in two Lavis. The police
say such matter are really usually left to animal control.
They usually call it in animal control and those kinds
of things. But they decided to help out on a
quiet night. Apparently I could imagine them just I could
I hear the radio conversation now as you can probably
in your head. They eventually say the cat walked out
on his own.

Speaker 14 (45:17):
Yes, they didn't have to handcuff it.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Didn't have to handcuff the cat. The neighbors say that
the cat has been a family pet for years, but
he's unpredictable. The same thing happened in Portland, Oregon. Family
went through a similar ordeal with their cat. Looks if
you've attacked the baby and then boxed his owners in
a bedroom. That was about a month ago.

Speaker 14 (45:34):
Yeah, yeah, not too long ago.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
You know what, that's a cat. Even Jackson Galaxy, I know,
looked into that one and he even threw up his
hands on that one, said.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see my cats are they're different.
My cats usually don't even give me the time of
the day. They look at me like I just asked
them for a ride to the airport or something like that.
Hi Mail, welcome to the show. Hi there, what's going on?

Speaker 26 (45:58):
We have a chinchilla, probably about ten years old, and
she pretty much stopped chewing on things like that she
normally used to. Okay, and it looks like her teeth
are getting a little longer. She does still eat, you know,
like her regular food and hate. But you know, she's
drooling a lot, and she's fi drinking a lot more water.

Speaker 7 (46:20):
Oh okay, she is drooling. So she's getting a little
stained on her face.

Speaker 25 (46:24):
With that, yep.

Speaker 11 (46:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (46:25):
And I don't know if it's just because of the
way she's drinking and drinking so much. It seems like
a lot.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
More all right.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
Now. Normally people with rodents would say, oh my god,
they're chew a lot already, so it's good when they
don't chew. But in this situation, especially since you were
describing that she's having drooling gosh, I'd say the number
one thing we need to do is a good dental
exam on her. The front teeth, the incisors are one thing,
but the back teeth, the molars in chinchillas as well

(46:52):
as rabbits, can really be a huge problem. They are
continually growing and they continually wear the opposing teeth down,
start to get little spikes and overgrow in aspects that
creates cheek pain or it can even entrap the tongue,
so it can be quite serious. And if we're given
up on some of those chewing items or some of

(47:13):
the different hay items, those are some of the first
signs that I say that we need to get a
good look inside that oral cavity and evaluate those teeth.
Many chinchillas do need to have their teeth trimmed, so
getting a good look as part of it, and then
doing any kind of dental care that we might need
to trim the teeth or heaven forbid, if there is

(47:35):
any bad ones that are actually creating abscesses, then extracting
those surgically extracting those would be the way to proceed there.
But I'd say definitely the first thing I would do
is get a good look inside that mouth, and you know,
make sure your veterinarians comfortable looking at chinilla mouse because
they are a little interesting little critters and they got
a lot of crooked little teeth in that mouth, and

(47:57):
it can be it can be very overwhelming if if
they're not comfortable with that.

Speaker 26 (48:02):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
They're soft, aren't they?

Speaker 8 (48:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (48:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I love them? No, not this one.

Speaker 14 (48:12):
What is the what is their normal lifespan? Doctor Debbie?

Speaker 7 (48:15):
You know, actually your baby sounds like we're already pretty
much in the in the older years of chinchillas. So yeah,
I do see them living eight, ten, twelve years, but uh,
certainly hope that your baby sees many more years beyond that.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Let's go to Danny, and you want to go to Danny.
Let's go to Danny. Hey, Danny, how are you doing.

Speaker 11 (48:34):
Hi? This is Danny from Orlando, Florida. Hey, you got
a question on a ten year old chi's who I have? Okay,
we look for the first time to the groomer yesterday
and after she got home, she was like licking her
parts and constantly like in pain all night. She spent

(48:55):
crying and crying and crying.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Now, did you say ten years old and this is
the first time she's been groomed.

Speaker 11 (49:01):
Yeah, you should. My wife does that at home.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
Oh okay, I's gonna see how in the heck does
that happen?

Speaker 11 (49:07):
Usually my wife does it, but this time for phone
to another. We decided to take her to the groomer
to little better job. Okay, but they've both been paying
for the last twenty four hours. I could tell that
it's red around her areas. I went to pet's morning,
got I get some ointment for burns. But is it
something that's normal? Should I take her to the vat?

Speaker 7 (49:31):
Well, it kind of depends in presuming that you've got
some clipper irritation there, which is not uncommon. There are
pets that certainly have a very sensitive skin and are
more prone to that. Or for pets that have a
really close clipping, say if you've got matted areas or
you're going for that close summer cut, you might be

(49:51):
more prone to getting clipper irritation, especially in some of
the delicate areas, like you know, the genital areas, the
arm pits, those can be really instead of when they
get the clippers that just kind of rub up against
the area.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
So if it's a mild abrasion, so if the area's.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
Just red and kind of what I would equate so
no worse than like a skin knee.

Speaker 8 (50:12):
Then I'll often use.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
Like a topical over the counter steroid cream, just kind
of like a cortizone type thing for people. But it
becomes a challenge because a lot of dogs become so obsessed,
they're so itchy scratchy, that they can make these type
of areas much worse very quickly. So it is important
that we either find some way to relieve their discomfort,
or at least if it's a localized area, we can

(50:36):
put like an Elizabethan Colorado cone on to keep them
away from that, because repeated licking at those areas will
definitely set in bigger problems. So it's hard to say
without seeing your baby, but you know, a topical quartzone
cream might be a realistic thing. Sometimes I'll even use
an oatmeal shampoo as just kind of a soothing thing
that you can try at home.

Speaker 8 (50:57):
But if she seems like she's really that uncomfortable.

Speaker 7 (51:00):
It might be worthwhile to get her over to the
vet just to see if they need to give her
some pain medicine or get around an antibiotics.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Sometimes, what do you think about that groomer there, doc?
Do you think that perhaps they shouldn't go back to
that groomer. I mean, does it sound like that's a
groomer problem.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
Not necessarily, because it can really depend on what the
goals were with the grooming. And that's why I say,
if a pet is madded and they are kind of
have no choice but to do a close clip, it's
a function of the matting or what the desired clip is.
So for me, if I have a dog that this
happens to, I'd like to have a heart art with
the folks and say, you know, maybe you don't really

(51:35):
want to keep them that short. We'll go with a
longer clip or ask the groomer to use a longer
blade next time. And then if it's something like the
pet is really matted, then it's just a matter of
staying up with those grooming frequencies. But you know, there
are some dogs that you know, just they could have
a lot of sensitivity, and if you think about it,
especially for ladies, you know, she's shaving those delicate parts.

(51:56):
You know, when that hair grows in, it naturally itches,
so you know, if you got a little close clipping,
you know, for a dog, it's easy to understand how
they can be irritated and develop redness, So I don't
I don't often blame the groomer. I've only run into
some truly bad groomers, just infrequently.

Speaker 11 (52:11):
So okay, so I guess I'll find the caller and
some cream. Sea that gets better because she has been
licking a lot writing that collar might be a necessity.

Speaker 8 (52:21):
Yeah, and definitely it is individualized.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
So if it's this like a single area, I'll often
treat very conservatively. But if it sounds like what you're describing,
it's kind of all over. You know, she might be
a bit overwhelmed with you know, the areas, so i'd
encourage you to have her looked at theirs. Good.

Speaker 11 (52:36):
I appreciate your help.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Hey, no problem, let us know how that turns out.

Speaker 11 (52:40):
Okay, thank you very much. Guys, have a great afternoon.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Danny Colling from Orlando this afternoon. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2 (54:18):
Hey, Susan, Yes, I understand you wanted to talk to
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Speaker 8 (54:24):
Honey, I know there can I Hello, I have to
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Speaker 9 (54:29):
I have a cat and a dog. Both are two
years old and both are pretty unseparable. They just enjoy
each other. The dog suffers only recently seizures she's never
had before. And we've tried what is a trump food
now of anything, We tried to think of things that
we have done differently than nothing. Well, she has them

(54:50):
two at a time, and they're sporadic, meaning they can
be one week apart, they can be a four weeks apart,
and there's no rhyme or reason for them. And some
of them are very mild. And her latest one, which
was actually last Thursday, which was a big surprise, which
was about five weeks after this previous one, it was

(55:12):
a rand mall. I mean she's been screamed.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
Okay, and when she's does she typically have grandma seizures
where she's kicking, paddling, doing that kind of thing. Yes, well,
I mean sometimes we honestly don't always find a reason
for seizures. And has she had any kind of tests?
Has your veterinarian done anything to kind of evaluate things.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
Yeah, he's done the blood test and everything, and he
says that as long as we can we can put
her on fimbarbatol.

Speaker 15 (55:41):
Or something like that.

Speaker 11 (55:42):
We choose not to put.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
Her on any medication, but he said, she's not causing
any problems to herself. It's just that it's a monogly
thing to have to go through.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
Oh sure, Yeah, And I think the decision to go
on an anti seizure medicine can be tough for some folks.
And if the seizures in my guideline is if we
have more seizures than once a month, I really look
at it for several reasons. One is that we can't
always be present every time a pet has a seizure,
so there is a self injury potential if they're happening,

(56:15):
you know, regularly. The other is that seizures kind of
have a kindling effect, so basically, one seizure can make
it more likely for the next seizure to come on,
and that can in itself be problematic because it just feeds,
if you will, the tendency for more seizures to happen.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
So if we're having.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
Frequent ones, especially clusters, you know, I would certainly consider
the idea of putting your pet on an anti seizure medicine.
And you know, phenobarbital is the one we use most
commonly for pets with seizures, and there are some alternatives
beyond that, but usually to get a pet regulated, most
veterinarians will use that. And then we'll talk about trying

(56:56):
alternative therapies, like there's a drug called Kepra. Potassium bromide
is another one, and some of those have lesser side
effects or more favorable side effects, depending on what's going
on for the individual pet. But I would say that
I would certainly consider that a little maybe a little
bit more seriously than you might just with that frequency.

(57:19):
You know, once every five weeks isn't a lot, but
you know, two seizures every two weeks would certainly be
enough that would get me concerned.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
And you didn't say what area of the country you're in.

Speaker 9 (57:29):
I'm in a middle California, right, it's good in the
middle of the state.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
Okay, Well, you're kind of in my area. And for
seizure and pets out here in the Nevada area. One
thing also amongst the many things that we'll do to
evaluate potential causes, we'll even look at the fungal disease
called valley fever, which it can potentially and some pets
cause seizure disorders, as well as things like thyroid issues
which in many cases we'll look at as well.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
It's kind of prevalent in central California, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
Yes, yes, the San Joaquin Valley. But yeah, areas like Phoenix,
you know, even Nevada and other parts of other states
would still concern. So might just make sure that that
has been screened for.

Speaker 9 (58:07):
Yeah, which I've actually had.

Speaker 7 (58:08):
That you yourself have had it? Yes, Oh my goodness. Well
then definitely, so.

Speaker 9 (58:14):
I was pretty bad.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
Holy cow. Well that's like a testimonial.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
So yeah, I would go and knocking on your vet
store and say, hey, by the way, did you check
my dog for this disease? And I think that would
be a very sound thing to screen because in those cases, yeah,
obviously you would treat the old underlying disease and you know, make.

Speaker 8 (58:31):
Sure we treat that effectively.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
So and you said you had a kiddie concern too.

Speaker 9 (58:36):
Yeah, he is outside a lot, which is okay. But
his problem is that he is really skittish. I mean,
I scary cat, but this guy takes it to the limit.
He was fairer when we first got him at kitten
and he is attached to family and he's attached to us,
and he's very attached to the dog. But he is

(58:57):
really really skittish. I thought maybe he's his eyes were
not focusing properly, because he would run from us and
until we talk to him, and then he'd stop. But
then he he would run anyway. But he does come
up to us and we can't pick him up without
any problem. That he is really really friendly, but he
is super super skittish. And I've never seen a cats

(59:18):
that's as skinnish as this thing.

Speaker 8 (59:21):
M yeah, yeah, And that's you know, not uncommon.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
Some of the pharaohs make an easy adjustment into the
inners of the household life. Others, you know, kind of
retain a little bit of that wild uh I guess, uh,
settling that they start off with. And you know, if
he seems like he's comfortable with your interactions, you know,
I think that's wonderful. The things that we watch for
when a cat is not at ease, you know, certainly

(59:45):
the ear posture kind of pin back. Sometimes they'll dilate
their eyes and get kind of big and wide eyed.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
You know, if you're seeing those kind.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Of cues, it's probably best to just kind of disengage,
you know, not go for the physical contact and just
kind of save him that anxiety. And I know he's
the kind of kiddy that just only likes a little
bit of human contact on his terms.

Speaker 8 (01:00:05):
You know, then I just accommodate him for that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
Yeah, And that's kind of what we've done so far.

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And always use food to your advantage.

Speaker 7 (01:00:14):
So a hungry cat is more likely to want to
be around a human and to have us.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
You know, in their life.

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
So that is always a good positive association to kind
of tie towards the human contact.

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So you heard me say it. Feed your cat, treat him, Susan.

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Speaker 14 (01:04:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I didn't even know there was a problem with that.

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I think that's horrible. I am I'm sorry.

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The tattoos are a personal decision and not something you
should make a statement with your pet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
One of the news stories Tammy did about two or
three weeks ago. We talked about the homes that are
being built specifically for people with pets.

Speaker 14 (01:04:41):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
They include spas and all kinds of things. I guess
you know a lot of people are remodeling their homes.
So it only makes sense that people that are building homes,
or people that are in any business are trying to
figure out how to get their portion of the sixty
billion dollar pet industry. Whether it's a car, car manufactur
are trying to make their cars whatever it is. And

(01:05:02):
now Standard Pacific's homes, I applaud them. They are now
selling homes in twenty seven developments from Florida to California.
I believe the first to offer a pet suite. And
I have somebody on the phone I have no I
guess it would be Danielle. Hi, Danielle, how are you doing.

Speaker 23 (01:05:17):
I'm great, Thank you so much for having me today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Daniel Is it Toco?

Speaker 23 (01:05:20):
That's correct, Danielle Toco.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Danielle Toco, you're the director of communications at Standard Pacific Homes.
What a genius idea? Was it your idea? Personally? I
have a feeling it probably was.

Speaker 23 (01:05:33):
I wish I could take credit for such a great idea,
It was actually a very collaborative process, I must say.
You know, at Sandra Pacific Homes, we're a national builder
and we're constantly talking to our homeowners about what's important
to them in the homes. And so really where the
idea came from was in talking to our customers and
our homeowners finding out, you know, pets are a very

(01:05:54):
important part of the family. You know, you know, seventy
percent of Americans are pet owners, and so really the
impetus of it was to help enhance the lives of
our homeowners and create a space for their furry family members.
It helps kind of help our homeowners stay organized as well.
So it's a space dedicated complete completely to our furry

(01:06:18):
family members that has a puppy wash station, It has
a plush bed, a flat screen TV well TV, no, yeah,
exactly it does.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
So they could watch Direct TV's dog TV, I assume,
or something like Animal Planet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Animal Planet exactly.

Speaker 23 (01:06:35):
You know, they had a long day playing in the sun.
There's a little French store. They could come run in
off the side of the yard and hop in their
little bed and watch a show if they'd like to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Now, is every suite the same or do you customize
them to whatever specific somebody wants in gym.

Speaker 23 (01:06:50):
That's a great question. They're not all the same. We've
just begun to introduce these, so you mentioned earlier. They're
in about twenty seven of our one hundred ninety communities
across the country, so you know they some of them
have the puppy wash station with the bench seating. Most
of them all do have a bed. We have some

(01:07:11):
with customized cabinetry to help keep all the toys and
treats and dog feeders and automatic waters all that organized.
There's also some that come with a stacked washer dryer
so that you can help. It helps keep the laundrying
needs of your pets separate from the humans within the home,
so it's separate from your the households washer and dryer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I see the pet spa, and I don't know if
you've talked about that yet. It adds a thirty five
grand to the price of a house. And I'm trying
to think, you know, if I was remodeling a bathroom,
that's about what it would cost to remodel a bathroom.

Speaker 23 (01:07:42):
Yeah you know, Oh sorry, go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Ahead, no, you you go ahead.

Speaker 23 (01:07:45):
Yeah, you know, that price is very like I said before,
it kind of the size varies and what's included in
the spa varies. As a as a home builder, we
have various communities across the country, and the sizes of
those homes are a wie. So for instance, one of
our new community is called Avignon at Blackstone and it's
in Brea, California, and the homes there they start at

(01:08:10):
about forty five hundred square feet so space. Yeah, so
they're rather large, and the space dedicated to the pet
suite is one hundred and seventy square feet, So the
price associated with that would be approximately thirty five thousand,
Whereas in other communities where say the home sizes are
you know, maybe they start in the three thousand, the

(01:08:32):
pet space starts closer to fifty square feet, and the
price range is about six thousand dollars. So it's a
range depending upon the size of the homes within the community.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
You've specifically talked about dog accoutrements or accessories, what about
cats and other animals?

Speaker 23 (01:08:50):
Oh definitely, I mean it's a full on pet suite,
and so the homeowner is able to personalize the space
based on what types of pets they have, so you
can add a scratchings or whatever your cat may want.
And as well as I think it's it's specifically geared
to dogs or cats, so you can also have goldfish
or hamsters, whatever type of pets that you have can

(01:09:12):
stay in this space. But I think what's really unique
about it is that puppy wash station, so that you know,
it creates a space within the home dedicated just for that,
so you don't need to worry about your pet, your
dog running through the home wet, or having to give
him a bath in your own shower or in the sink.
It's really just for the pets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Okay, good stuff. We can learn more of the website
at standard Pacific homes dot com. If you already own
a home and you're planning on selling it, think about
adding one of these additions to the house to attract
a buyer, perhaps like a laundry room that has turned
it into a mudroom or whatever it may be.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
That mum, you're going to think I'm crazy, but we're
doing that. Are you actually trying to put a dog
that bathing station in? Because I almost broke my back
last weekend bathing my dog outside bench over so right,
so where.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Will you put that? Will that be uh a.

Speaker 14 (01:10:04):
Add on or you're going to get in a garage.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
We're going to have like a garage add on and
put that in and a little you know, storage area,
grooming table, all that kind of stuff, just because yeah,
it really you don't want the hair of your dog
in your own bathtubs. You want to have a special
drain and that's where all these you know, costs go
along with the beating equipment.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
You have to do the right stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
I just want to say, if Standard Pacific is looking
for somebody to test one of these homes animals, we
would be glad to take one off your hands.

Speaker 14 (01:10:30):
And do you just keep us in mind?

Speaker 23 (01:10:35):
Definitely? I know I want to. I want to add
myself to that list as well. These are just really
top of the line, stay of the art. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
They sound great. Thanks for the bringing this to our
attention today. Danielle took on the director of communications at
Standard Pacific Homes, joining us and the website once again.
Standard Pacific homes dot com of course links to everything
you've heard on today's show over at Animal radio dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
That is so cool.

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
Isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
And you know, I've we've my husband, I've designed in
our mine the perfect dog friendly house. So it would
have like the gates that pull out of the wall
so that you wouldn't have to put up doggy gates,
because now that I have seen your pets, you kind
of want to limit their access if they're having accidents,
So that would be in my design.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
I think that's a good idea. Keep that thought compatent.

Speaker 7 (01:11:19):
Yeah, I think my dog needs more than sixty square feet,
though your dog may. My husband actually wanted to turn
one of our guest bedrooms into the dog room, and
he went in to get a dog race car bed
and the guests were supposed to sleep in the same
bed that the dog slept in any other time. And
I'm like, no, we're not getting a dog RACECARBD.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You put your foot down, didn't you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
I did.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Well, I'm sure that my entire home fits into well,
probably both you Joey and doctor Debbie's bathroom probably combined.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Oh I bet it does.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Yeah, I'll trade you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
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Stay anew to your pets, some of your exes.

Speaker 19 (01:12:23):
I would love to go on vacation, but I don't
want to leave our Charlie behind.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
I agree.

Speaker 29 (01:12:27):
I heard that the magazine Fido Friendly lists places where
you can stay with your pet. They also offer reviews,
so you have an idea about pet policy, to include
any restrictions, fees, and what pedimenities to expect.

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That's dare I say, pawsome, what are we waiting for?

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I'm way ahead of you.

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I just logged onto Fido Friendly dot com and I
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Charlie agrees.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Right now we're gonna hang with Assemblyman Carmelo Garcia. Yes, hello, hey,
how are you doing great?

Speaker 24 (01:13:21):
Thank you, thank you for having me on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
I see you have a bill to ban pet tattooing
and piercing. What inspired that?

Speaker 24 (01:13:27):
Well, first of all, I love animals. I have two
dogs myself, and we have been getting some constituents who
have noticed some really weird but yet for vanity reasons.
Apparently some tattooing on a dog in particular. That's the
first one that had come to my attention, and that
was disturbing. So I felt the need to immediately look

(01:13:48):
into what kind of bill we can establish that would
prohibit anyone from tattooing or piercing an animal, which would
create mutilation and animal cruelty.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yeah, did you see this lady who was telling gothic
king kittens back in It was a couple of years ago,
years ago.

Speaker 24 (01:14:04):
Yeah, that was scary. Yes, indeed, yes, that was. That
case is really, you know, an eye opener, And I
think that there's a lot of weird fads that get started,
and we definitely don't want this to be one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Who are the people that don't want you to put
this through well.

Speaker 24 (01:14:18):
Because some folks that feel that, you know, you have
like the areas which I understand and we've amended, requested
to amend the language where for tattooing and microchip and
purposes they would like, you know, for those type of
federal animals to be tracked, and that's one of the
things that we are we've considered and we've accepted. And
of course, you know branding for farming animals, which we

(01:14:39):
had already inserted Indie Bill to ensure that they are
protected and allowed to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Doctor w have you seen any animals like this in
your office? Any tattooed animals.

Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
I've seen them on local news. And you know, the
thing that bothers me, I think the most when we
talk about ear piercing with animals is that when when
girls or women get their ears pierced, goes in that
floppy little lobe part. But a dog's ear is has
got that firm cartilage. So if you if you know
what it's like to get your upper ear pierced, it's
a totally different sensation than getting the lobe. And plus

(01:15:11):
they do have you know, vessels that it can be
very sizeable in the ear, so there's a potential for
serious bleeding if if it's not done properly. So I
have to say that I'm just so opposed to the
idea of cosmetic tattooing and piercing, you know, for all
of those reasons. And plus think about how dogs play,
you know, ripping you know, their piercings out.

Speaker 8 (01:15:32):
It's just sets up so much for the pet to
injure itself.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Yeah, not only just by playing, but but on purposely
ripping it out because it's irritating.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
That's that's really weird. Okay, So what where does this
go next? Where does this bill go next? And when
will it be passed? I think it will right.

Speaker 24 (01:15:47):
Yes, Yeah, I mean we've gone great support from you know,
animal rights groups. I mean the reality is is animal cruelty.
And we even had another constituent report a particular piercing
as a doctor just noted, you know, on another animal
that it's just you know, unbelievable because what happens is
sometimes with these in the pit bull world right where
they try to breed these dogs to fight, they mutilate

(01:16:08):
them afterwards the loser from what I have understood, and
it just saddened me that in fact they do this
type of piercing as well to kind of show that
this is the losing animal. And right now where it
stands is we're putting it out already, it's going into committee,
and once it's navigated its course. You know, I'm pretty
confident that it will become law because I think all

(01:16:28):
of us that love animals understand the need to protect
these animals, and I will do everything humanly possible to
ensure and as a legislator that these animals who don't
have the right to consent or choice can definitely be
protected in this way. I mean, we don't want this
to be another weird fad that people think it's cool
and that dogs and animals are this type of toy
or dow that they can basically take advantage of. I mean,

(01:16:51):
this is just not the way it should be for
vanity reasons. And this is why we're going to push
this thing through and we're going to advocate strongly and
hopefully we can get you guys on bulldor, you know,
to share this news and get more people to write
in and you know, you know, tweet it and you know,
instagram it and Facebook and talk about you know, the
need to really get this trend going to protect these
animals where this model legislation can really ensure that they're protected.

Speaker 14 (01:17:15):
Do you have any tattoos or piercing?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I do not.

Speaker 24 (01:17:18):
No, I do not, so clearly, and in my household
with my children. I mean clearly, that's something that's something
that I well, art is art, But I don't think
when it comes to animals for vanity reasons, who cannot
have that choice, they should be uh, you know, mutilated
or in any way you know, given a tattoo or
piercing is just animal cruelty to me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Now, they did they didn't They didn't ask for it themselves.

Speaker 25 (01:17:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I feel the same way about the giving of the
blood too. You know, they didn't ask for We were
talking about this a couple of weeks ago, people donating
their blood. They didn't ask the animals. There they're getting
a sense of gratification for something that they didn't really do.
But in any case, I agree with you. I'm one
hundred percent behind you here and I will we'll try
to get the word out as best we can. Now
it's just kind of prolific in the Hoboken area or

(01:18:03):
any parts of the country because this is like the
first time other than that Gothic kitten, that I've heard
of this, or are you just really trying to nip
it in the bud before it becomes something prolific.

Speaker 24 (01:18:11):
I've lived twofold. I mean, we've gotten some cases report
it to us. I mean officially there hasn't been one,
you know, in the state, but the reality is that
we know how it goes. It exists, and we have
had cases reported to us, and we are looking into
them further to demonstrate that this is happening. And we're
afraid that this may be become a fad of some
sort because some people just again look at animals as

(01:18:33):
you know, these toys or dolls that they can you know,
do this too, and it's completely wrong. And I appreciate
the support for you guys, Really honored to be on
your show, and I think that you know, we will
get this through to ensure that it nips it in
the butt, and that people understand the consequences to these
kind of actions, and that we don't want children to
be taught that this is something that is acceptable when
it comes to you know, our loving animals such as

(01:18:55):
any dogs and cats.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Very good, Thank you so much for bringing this to
our attention. We wish you all the best of luck.
Let us know how bad goes. Assemblyman Carmel and Garcia
from the district office, and Hobook and New Jersey joining us. Well,
it has just flown by once again, as it usually does.
It seems like we just walk in and all of
a sudden it's over with. I want to thank Danielle
to Go from Standard Pacific Homes as well as our
hero of the week, Deborah Joe, Chiappisio, Chiappusio.

Speaker 14 (01:19:18):
Chipoosio, Chiposio, Chipoosio.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Assemblymen, Carmela, Garcia, you guys are all awesome. If you
want to reach us during the week, feel free to
ask your questions directly from the Animal Radio app. It's
a free download for iPhone and Android as well as
you're as well as listening to the show and del
bar I'm glad it's towards the end. I really as
well as listening to the show and as well as

(01:19:41):
listening to.

Speaker 14 (01:19:48):
Bye Bye. Okay, let's just cut it, cut our losses.

Speaker 16 (01:19:54):
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