How To Be A Cat Whisperer. Pet Cancer No Longer A Death Sentence.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrating our connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio.
Here are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis, Well
my friend, dog trainer, Alan Cable, dog Father, Joey Volani,
doctor Debbie An, animal communicator Joy Turner. All here this
hour on Animal Radio. We'll be talking to the cat

(00:21):
whisper Michelle Nagelschneider. I hope I'm pronouncing it right.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's a heck of a name.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Is a heck of a name. She'll be telling us
how to whisper to our cats.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Is it cheap of a flight of Chicago?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Or by Nagel Schnitzer, not Nakel Schnitzer, Nigel Schneider, you
can go through Nigel Schneider.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, that's close to giggles snort, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Down the street? Stacey off in her own world, in
her little secluded news booth. What's up?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Remember the Fiddler on the Roof where they did that
song A blessing on your head? Mozo talk, Mozo talk.
I know, I sound like I could definitely do Broadway.
But the pontiff, the what's his name, Pope Frand, he
did a blessing too.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
He didn't sing that song.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
But it just reminded me of it.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Anyway, he did a special blessing that was out of
character for him. He called a dog up to get blessed.
I'll tell you about it coming out on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And we had to Grant. Hey, Grant, how are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Hey, I'm okay. I'm sorry. It's noisy in here, but
I've got to be somewhere on the work.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's noisy in here too. We got a bagel stuck
in the air conditioner. What's going on with you?

Speaker 6 (01:31):
What is that the same as an unsugar donut?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, exactly like an unsugar donut. But we don't know
how it got up there. Actually we do, but that's
another story. Let's deal with.

Speaker 7 (01:40):
Your is They wanted this the donut instead, so they
got maddened through it too.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Okay, Hey, I've got a seven and a half year
old hit shepherd mixed and he's around one hundred pounds,
and when he was two he had an ad neeckful
hammer goma in his lower right leg the elbow that
it took two surgeries to remove it, and then a
life homa appeared at some point after that, and it's

(02:07):
really ballooned into a massive area in his shoulder right
above where that was, and it's mixed in with the
shoulder muscle and the tricep muscle, and he's had surgery
three different times over it. And now I'm told that
there's nothing else that we can do. We're doing quality
in life. And I don't take that answer very well.
Is there anything else that can be done? You know

(02:30):
that if they don't even want to take the leg
off because they're not sure that it would solve the problem.
It was a human being, a human being would not
be walking around with the nerve football stuck in their shoulder.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
No.

Speaker 9 (02:43):
Well, I mean, the first question I have for you is,
I want to make sure did this tumor at some
point get biop seed and sent out or pieces get
sent out?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It did? Okay, So and.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
It's coenasperated about once a year ever since it first appeared.

Speaker 9 (02:59):
Okay, Because the first thing when I hear about definitely
fatty tumors or lipomas, they definitely have a high reoccurrence
rate because they're fat cells and.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
It's impossible to remove all the fat cells.

Speaker 9 (03:11):
But if I do hear that a lipoma grows back
very fast, there is a possibility of a lipoma making
a malignant change to a liposarcoma. It's not terribly common,
but we do know that less than one percent of
these type of tumors can be malignant. So if it's
been a long time since that's been revisited, you know,
getting a piece of it would certainly be a wise

(03:32):
thing to make sure. Now, with all that being said,
you've had several procedures done with some of these fatty tumors.
They can be just immense and if they're in between
the planes of tissues, like between the different muscle layers,
it is Yeah, it is hard to remove that because
we know there's going to be microscopics fat cells still
in the area that will potentially grow again.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
So you know, there may be some steps that can
be done. You're kind of.

Speaker 9 (04:00):
Getting into more of the theme of things where we'd
be looking at radiation therapy, so that may be a
possibility that may be limited by your location and the
availability of that kind of you know, technology in the area,
but it is a valid thing with all sorts of
different types of cancers and dogs, and especially when we're
looking at something that is maybe not so easily resectible

(04:24):
that maybe an avenue to look at with that.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
That's never even been discussed with me by by the
three different events that have looked at it, they're just like, well,
there's nothing else that can be done. And one was
a board certified surgeon that it costs me three house
payments to be unsuccessful in the last surgery a year
ago this month, and that was bios and stuff too,

(04:49):
And I'm just at my wits end because he's a
really good dog. He's active, he swims in our swimming pool,
he runs by himself on a treadmill. But now he's
got a lamp, and I'm just beside myself and I
don't accept there's nothing that can be done very well.
I'm not very good at that.

Speaker 9 (05:09):
Absolutely, And I like the idea that you know, you
did call in a surgeon a specialist for that, because
you know that sometimes even as regular veterinarians out in practice,
you know, we'll admit when sometimes you know, normal traditional
surgery doesn't work, we're going to we're going to call
upon those specialists to do their best to control the
disease with aggressive surgery. And if that didn't happen, it

(05:29):
sounds like your vets have done a lot already to
guide you in the right direction. So the next step
would really be consulting with a board certified veterinarian oncologist,
and that's something that you can certainly kind of google
that to see what area you're in.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
A lot of times, if you're near a in.

Speaker 9 (05:47):
A state where there's a vet school, you're going to
find oodles of specialists there and then they'll definitely have
their handful of veterinary on collegists.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
But most metropolitan areas do you have those? In Here
in the Las.

Speaker 9 (05:58):
Vegas area, we have at least two to three at
any time, so that might be an avenue to set
up that console see if something like radiation therapy is
a possibility or not okay, and then you know they
might even have some newer things that are out there
sometimes on the cusp of research.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
You know, those are the folks that you want.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
To talk to.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
We have a teaching hospital, you know, through Oklahoma State.
I live in Alsma, and they're running our animal shelter
in our city. You know, they're they're practicing their space
and neoters and all that kind of stuff on our
animal shelter, trying to get down the euthianization rate, you know,
that cut that in half fifteen thousand to seven thousand

(06:41):
a year, And maybe that's something I could do. Maybe
I could call up on the state and ask them,
you know, hey, what is there anything that could be done?
Can y'all help me? And see that hasn't never been
even discussed with me. I've just been told we've done
all we can do. We're sorry.

Speaker 9 (06:58):
Yeah, well I wish I wish I had more clients
like you, because I have people come in with tumors
the size of basketball is coming off of dog sides
and they're like, can you cut it off? And you know,
sometimes sometimes even surgery can't remove all of these things.
You know, if it's a lie hom of that's good
because you know those kind of tumors, you know, we're
not necessarily worried that they're going to spread to distant

(07:19):
parts of the body.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
So that certainly is in your favor there.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
So well, I'm gonna do that. I really appreciate your time, okay,
And I've spent a fortune on him. You know, I'm
just a working guy.

Speaker 10 (07:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
I think you can hear my truck running down the road,
and I've spent four thousand dollars on it. Oh wow,
you know, and that's a lot of money for somebody
like me, and I don't finance anything. I don't even
finance a roof on my house, you know. I try
to save the money and do what I can do
when I can do it. So that's a lot of money.

Speaker 9 (07:52):
Yeah, you've done a fabulous job with him, and I
definitely embrace your passion because I'm that same kind of person.
And if I didn't have opportunities for my dog's cancer
here in my environment.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I would I was prepared to drive out of stage.

Speaker 9 (08:04):
Sometimes you have to take it to that next step
and travel, So definitely i'd encourage you to give them
a call at at that hospital.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Well, and I have the ability to do that on
my job. I can take him with me, you know,
I could take him between drop him off somewhere and
even come back SA get you. Yeah, because we go
to the same place as all the time. That I'm
going to explore that. I really appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Tid Okay, well, great, good luck with that. Let me
know if if anything works out in that avenue.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, thank you, thanks for your call there. Grant. We appreciate.

Speaker 11 (08:37):
Dogs or cats, of course, or in you animals people to.
A California woman who allegedly instructed her two daughters to
steal a neighbor's dog was arrested on charges of contributing
to the delinquency of a minor and grand theft. A
witness to the dog napping told police he saw two

(08:58):
young girls jump out of an su and snatched the
small dog while a woman inside the car was shouting
at them to hurry up. A week later, the girl's
age seven and nine, were observed reacting strangely to assign
the dog owners posted offering a reward. They were sent
to the principal's office, where they confessed the stealing Guppy,

(09:19):
a small Chihuahua Pickinese mix. Their mother, who was released
on twenty thousand dollars bail, told police she took the
dog to protect it from another dog in the neighborhood.
I'm brit Savage for Animal Radio. Animals are People to
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Hi It Talent Cable. Today's dog tip.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Last time, we talked about picking a smart puppy out
by using his attention span. That is, how long can
he focus on one thing before becoming distracted. The longer
the better if you've got your eye on a particular
dog or a puppy. Here's a couple of other tests
you can do that go a little bit further than
just measuring how long a dog can focus. Usually a
puppy under four months that can focus on any one

(10:24):
thing for longer than ten fifteen seconds. It's pretty smart
now that you've established that the dog you're interested in
can do that. Here's a couple of other little tests.
Have somebody hold them on a leash and right in
front of his face. Take a dog treat and put
it under a coffee can or a soup can. A
smart dog will know right away that the treat is
still there, even though he can't see it. Knock the

(10:44):
can over with his noser paw and go at it,
just so you know. We put my uncle through this test,
he ate the can. If the dog you want completes
the coffee can test successfully, here's another one you can
do to take it a step further. Now, with your
friend holding the dog on a leash, take the treat,
show it to the dog. Then put your hands behind
your back and make two fists so that the treat
is now concealed. Now put the two fists back in

(11:06):
front and let the puppy or dog pick which.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Hand your treat is in.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Now, the last part of this test is what separates
Beethoven from the idiots that are always trying to catch
him in the movie. I'll just tell you most likely,
if the dog is younger than four months, he or
she probably won't be able to complete this part of
the test. What the heck, Give it a whirl anyway,
same thing, hands behind your back, but drop the treat
behind you. Then bring both of your closed hands in

(11:30):
front of you again. Most likely the dog is going
to sniff both of your hands. Then you can open
both of them up to reveal the treat is gone
where to go. A real smart dog is going to
put it together, or he's going to use his nose
to search for the tree, and an extremely intelligent dog
is going to want to walk behind you to get
the treat that he knows is there. This is abstract

(11:51):
thought for a dog and the cast of Jersey Shore.
Next time we'll talk about what a dog needs to
be well adjusted, happy and secure and believe it or not,
love isn't number one.

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Speaker 3 (12:38):
You want a sip of water?

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There?

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Thank you?

Speaker 15 (12:42):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I got the hiccups?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
You're right, I'm sorry, Right, A good shot on the
back of something.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, if you could do that, geez man almost out
on that flew out there. I don't know what. I
think it was my dentures. It was a feathers. Let's
go to the phones. We have Windy on the phones
for Alan cabled Hello.

Speaker 16 (13:02):
It was a hiccups and not my phone.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, what's going on in your world?

Speaker 17 (13:06):
Well?

Speaker 16 (13:07):
I have this adorable, sweet, lovely year and apple golden doodle.
He's neutered, and lately, when I take him to the
dog park, if he finds a ball, though, you're very
possessive of it with.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
The other dogs, it's not his ball, it's another dog's ball.

Speaker 16 (13:21):
It's when he finds and he has plenty of toys
at home, and he doesn't do that when other dogs
come to my house.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
That's another kind of aggression called possessive aggression.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's when a dog.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
In the old days, when dogs were first becoming dogs,
you know, they would compete for everything. They'd compete for
their food, and they compete for their sleeping place their mates.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
They compete.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Today, dogs often guard their food, some of them guard
where they sleep, some of them guard their crates, some
of them guard even the beds that their owners sleep in.
So when your dog's taking a toy away from another
dog and acting aggressive, towards that dog. He's taking possession
of that toy, and so you probably don't like that.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You want them to.

Speaker 16 (13:59):
Stop, right, yeah, because I'm afraid he's gonna act aggressive
for like a pipple or something down there, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 16 (14:07):
How to stop him or what to train him.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Or well, the simplest thing you can do is keep
your dog on a leash at the dog park. Okay,
and does your dog know the command no bite or give?
Have you taught your dog to let.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Go of things?

Speaker 18 (14:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (14:21):
Yeah, I say let go all right.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
So what you can do is you can bring your
dog to the dog park on a leash, and you
can actually elicit the help of another dog owner and
take that toy and actually give it to your dog,
give the other dog's toy to your dog, and then
give your dog the command no bite. And I believe
when you do when you do training, when you do
behavior modification with dogs, it's real important to reward them

(14:44):
for the behavior that they're doing that you want, and
not reward them for negative behavior. When they're not doing
what you want, you just pay no attention to them,
or you actually you know, you just you give them
a quick correction like no, you know, like that. So
when the dog lets the toy go, you actually give
the dog some praise and turn around and walk the
opposite direction very fast, away from the toy, and keep

(15:07):
practicing that. The next step is to let the other
dog walk over and pick up his toy while you've
got your dog on the leash, and when he acts calm,
when he's actually come, if he acts kooky, you turn
and walk the other direction quickly, giving him a correction,
because as soon as the leash gets taught, he's going
to get a major correction in his neck, and that's
going to teach him that not only are you in charge,

(15:28):
he has to be close to you, pay attention to you,
and it's going to get his mind off being possessive
of that toy very quickly. And as soon as he
starts to calmly behave when other dogs come around and
take their toys back or pick up toys, you give
them praise and then you let them off the leash.
As soon as he's calm and not possessive, that's when
you let them off the leash. Up until that point,

(15:49):
you've got to keep them on a leash at the
dog park so that you can make those corrections when
he acts aggressive and other dog's toys are around.

Speaker 16 (15:56):
Yeah, because this is very strange behavior because when I
I've socialized him from the day I got him as
a puppy, and he used to like to go to
the dog park and play with other dogs. But lately
all he does is look for lost balls and want
to play with me, and then when he's too tired
of playing, he just want to be around of the dogs.
He'll take that ball and go off somewhere and guard it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Has anything happened anything?

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Has he been attacked by another dog or frightened by
other dogs?

Speaker 16 (16:24):
Another dog when he was growing up because he was smaller,
the other dogs, you know, wouldn't do what they do,
and I would watch very carefully, and he finally one day,
these three dogs vananimate once and he laid them all out,
one by one, faster than I've seen a pit bull move.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 16 (16:42):
And since then he hasn't had to protect himself, and
he hasn't done that.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Well, it's interesting what you say, he hasn't had to
protect himself because you, as the pack leader, you're almost
charged with protecting him. So if you're going to let
your dog awful leash around other dogs, you have to
be prepared to step in and.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's very very careful.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
You have to be very careful when you do this
because you don't want to get bitten, but you have to.
You have to learn to step in and show your
dog that, yeah, you're the pack leader, you're gonna protect him,
because what that does makes him anxious. When he knows
he has to protect you and himself, makes him very anxious.
I have another neighbor I was telling a neighbors story before,
and he was watching three dogs here in the neighborhood

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and the dogs were literally having their way with him.
They were jumping all over them, and so he called
me up on the phone and I went over there,
and basically every time they try to jump on him,
I just took the space away, just walked forcefully right
into the dog and said no down. It's kind of
like you have to be in charge. You have to
walk in front of your dog, don't let your dog

(17:45):
walk in front of you on a leash at your
side or behind you.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Don't let your dog enter the house before you.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
And when you bring your dog around other dogs, watch
the body language of the other dogs. If you see
any sign of aggression, put yourself between your dog and
those dogs. Not when they're biting and attacking, but take
the space away from the other dog. Take that space.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Be the pack leader, Dan, he.

Speaker 16 (18:07):
Thinks that he's protecting me.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
In absolute he is your pack leader. He's in charge.
And because dogs are not dogs are not meant to
be the pack leader. It makes them anxious, it makes
them fearful. You have to be the pack leader.

Speaker 16 (18:22):
Okay, well, I will go home and take care of that,
and thank you for having such a wonderful show I
can call.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Thanks, Wendy. We appreciate your call you. Isn't it great
that we have a show that we can call No, wait.

Speaker 18 (18:33):
A minute, now, what happens when somebody's breaking into my
house and I want the dog to not look at
me and say, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's Joey, that's an interesting preponderance.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
And I will tell you right now that even if
your dog, if you had like four dogs and two adults,
the lowest dog on the totem pole in the pack
order will step up and defend the pack when necessary.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's just like here at the stupid ship.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes.

Speaker 18 (18:56):
Yes, if somebody breaks in, will use hall as a shield.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
We're in rare form today. This hour the cat Whisperer.
I was unaware there was a cat Alan. Did you
know there was a cat whisper?

Speaker 8 (19:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (19:11):
But I knew there were Gator Boys. Have you seen
the Gator Boys? I love the Gator Boys.

Speaker 15 (19:15):
I don't know the Gator Boys.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
They're two insane guys who have a very short life span,
who go out and capture alligators.

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This is an animal radio news update.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
I'm Stacy Cohen for Animal Radio. Well spring may inspire
you to welcome baby chicks into your flock, but you
know what, you should probably nix that idea if you're
not prepared to care for them long after spring is over.
You have to understand, these animals do live longer than
a couple of years, said Lacy Campbell. She's the operations
manager at the Audubon Society of Portland's Wildlife Care Center.

(20:56):
She said, you really have to plan accordingly because chicks
are live animals. They're not disposable toys, and they require
very specialized care. I know, you know, it's the season,
it's spring, Eastern type of environment, and everybody thinks, oh,
they're so cute, But chicks are pretty social, so you
have to get at least two or three of them,
not just one. And if they're by themselves, they can

(21:17):
be very lonely and noisy, and they can die of
loneliness or stress if they don't have another chick with them.
And you also have to keep them in a brooder
which will stimulate the warmth and protection of a mother.
So you have to buy one of those, and at
night you have to have a secure coup for them,
because predators, especially if you're in the city, the raccoon

(21:40):
poultry's number one enemy. They can smell chicken from a
mile away, and not the fried kind, so you have
to be careful. Also, chickens carry salmonilla for kids, and
if you don't wash your hands, you know, it could
be a big pain in the neck. You get diarrhea
and all that start puking. Overall, owning chickens could be
a rewarding experience. It's like all the fresh eggs you'll get,

(22:01):
but only if you're really responsible about it. So you
might want to think twice. A yellow labrador. I don't
know if you heard about this. When the Pope was
doing his blessings, Pope Francis, he blessed a Labrador retriever
before he blessed anything else. I guess he called him
on stage. There were some journalists that were sitting down,
and this one journalist had his dog with him, so

(22:22):
he called him up on stage, and the pope got
his little white dress sniffed and his black shoes, and
then the pontiff did a blessing for the dog. The
guy who owned him also asked that his wife get blessed.
You know, threw and his wife there too. But it
was an unusual experience because it wasn't something that was
pre arranged. There's some bills that are being shopped in

(22:44):
six states by the American Legislative Exchange Council that would
make it a crime to film animal abuse at factory
farms or lie on job applications in hopes of shutting
down animal rights activists who infiltrate slaughterhouses to expose those
horrible condition. The meat industry's response to these exposes has
not been to try to prevent these abuses from taking place,

(23:06):
but rather it's really been to prevent Americans from finding
out about those abuses in the first place. According to
Paul Shapiro, he's a spokesman for the Humane Society of
the US, and what they're doing is trying to pass
laws throughout the county that don't just shoot the messenger,
they seek to imprison the messenger. I'm Stacy Cohen. Get

(23:26):
more animal breaking news at animal radio dot com.

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Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's animal Radio celebrating the connection with our pets. And yes,
all week long we've been playing with the dog Hotline.

Speaker 15 (24:21):
It's so much fun.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
It's actually like you're having a real conversation with your dog.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's like a medium. It's like a hotline connection directly
to your dog. And let me tell you a little
bit about it. It's designed by a company called Regal
dot Ai. They make AI agents. It's actually responding in
real time to what you say. And they have this
dog hotline that you can talk to your dog. And
you have Dolly the docs, and I believe that's who

(24:48):
we're going to talk to today.

Speaker 15 (24:49):
Yes, I have some questions about good old little Dolly.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
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You have Dolly's a doxin, so you're scrolling down to
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Speaker 7 (25:07):
And then they have a phone number for each breed,
so you can get direct hotline to your dog.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Let's dial it up and talk to Dolly.

Speaker 15 (25:14):
I'm ready.

Speaker 23 (25:18):
I'm so excited to be speaking human. I can't believe it.
I took a nap and then woke up and now
all of a sudden, I'm speaking to you. It's so crazy. Anyway,
can you tell me what my name is?

Speaker 15 (25:32):
Your name is Dolly, Ah.

Speaker 23 (25:34):
Dolly, a name as brilliant as my inventions. It is perfect,
speaking of perfect things. Tell me what is something you
have always wanted to ask me? Now that I can talk.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
Well, every time I take you to the beach. You know,
you're just a little docks and you got these short
little legs, but you're always trying to hump the big dogs.

Speaker 23 (25:55):
Why I suppose I'm just conducting an experiment on the
art of diplomacy among canines. Everyone must know the genius
of Dolly after all. But tell me, speaking of discoveries,
do we have a snack plan for later?

Speaker 7 (26:14):
What I'm gonna do is, when we get home from
the beach, I'm gonna give you your favorite, your peanut
butter and jelly sandwich.

Speaker 23 (26:19):
Peanut butter and jelly, a true culinary masterpiece. I can
already taste the brilliance after our beach adventure. Will we
also engage in a cozy blanket session to digest this
gourmet delight and explore the mysteries of napping together?

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Only if you promise to leave the cats alone because
they want to nap too.

Speaker 23 (26:42):
Ah, a compromise. I shall exercise my utmost restraint while
the feline wonders enjoy their snooze. But you believe there's
room for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in this equation,
I feel it will amplify our napping experienced tremendously.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Yes, there will be a big peanut butter and jelly
sandwich with lots of jelly, just the way you like it.

Speaker 23 (27:08):
I can hardly wait to dive into that jellylicious delight.
I've been chatting too much again, call me back anytime
and share more about our adventures. Can't wait to chat
again soon.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
You know, I always thought Dolly had that kind of accent.

Speaker 15 (27:27):
Now we know the truth.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Hey, if you want to try this with your dog,
head on over to Regal dot Ai slash Dog and
check out what ai can do. It's pretty amazing. Regal
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and a lot of fun. And we didn't get a
lot of work done this week. We talked to a
lot of dogs and they have a lot to say.
I know I said it too fast. I'll say it
one more time. Gold dot Ai slash Dog or let
us know what your dog says. Hi, Teresa, how are you?
Where are you today?

Speaker 24 (28:09):
I'm in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh that's a beautiful state. It's for lovers. Did you
know that?

Speaker 16 (28:14):
I heard that?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Doctor Debbie's right here. How can we help you?

Speaker 24 (28:18):
I have two German shepherds and a mixed dog and
a neighbor of mine raises cattle and I buy grass
fed beef from her, and she gave me some uncooked
bones for them that have the marrow in them, and
I was wondering if it's okay to give it to them.

Speaker 9 (28:35):
Okay, my opinion, I do not like to feed bones
to dogs. And I'm gonna have probably a million people
calling up saying, doct Debbie, you don't know what you're
talking about. I've been feeding my dog bones their whole life.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
They're great.

Speaker 9 (28:48):
The big problem I have with bones isn't so much
you know, whether it's cooked or uncooked. It's just the
fact that bones are very strong, and dog's enamel of.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Their teeth it does not compete when it comes to.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
Bone, so we'll often get a lot of cracked teeth,
which can lead to open teeth and rip canals and.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Things like that.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
So I'm really not a fan of just giving them
the cowbones themselves. The other risks we run into, also,
you know, would be food born illness, getting bacterial infections
and so forth, and as well as the good old
bone piece that gets stuck in the throat or in
the gut or where have you, and causes, you know,
emergency surgery and so forth.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
So I personally am not a fan of that.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
There are people that believe in the raw diets and
that is part of the cornerstone of that. I just
don't fall in that nutritionally and professionally. I can tell
you I've seen many pets suffer, not all survive, coming
up face to face with bones.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
So my best advice is stay away.

Speaker 24 (29:46):
Okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's a pretty simple answer. There you go to REESA,
thanks for your call at one eight sixty six four
five eight four five. What about that compressed raw hide stuff?
Is that okay for them?

Speaker 9 (29:58):
Yeah, you know, I'm a real big fan of that
and anything we give our dogs to chew. The important
thing is supervision is always, always, always important. But the
compressed raw hide, and if anyone doesn't know what that is,
that's a nice big pieces of raw hide that they
compress with high pressure so that you don't have those
little slipped edges or the soft parts, and it holds

(30:19):
up really well, especially to the large dog. So for
my labradors, the compressed rawhides last many hours versus fifteen minutes.

Speaker 15 (30:27):
With the other stuff. What do you recommend for dogs
that just like to chew on something that like.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
It depends on their jaw strength and what breeds.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
Now, some smaller breeds can do very well with some
of the rope bone type toys that gives them something
to chew on.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
They have a lot of fun with that.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
Now when you get to a larger, more destructive dog,
they can ingest that, so you have to watch their
toys a little more so for large breeds. I'll tend
to to look at things that are nice, heavy duty
rubber style, any of that soft vinyl stuff, and the
Kong toys.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
A lot of the heavier Buddha bones are very good.

Speaker 9 (31:03):
And then the compression r height is probably one of
the more edible things that I like to go to.

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You're listening to Animal Radio. Here's hol and Judy.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And let's head on over to Lourie. Hi, Laurie, how
are you so?

Speaker 17 (32:37):
I have a situation where I acquired a pat from
my brother in law who's thought she was diabetic, but
when I needed to take it to the vet, retest
that was done on her. She was not diabetic.

Speaker 25 (32:52):
But I have two cats in the house that I've
had for.

Speaker 17 (32:55):
Ten years, and my male cat has been really going
after her and attacking her.

Speaker 25 (33:04):
So he had had his clause.

Speaker 17 (33:06):
He wound up puncturing, giving her two puncture wounds in
her back. But I needed to take it to the
bet and then I had a male cat clause taken out.
And they're still battling. But I don't know how to
have them adjust to each other in a much kinder fashion.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay, so they've been together for ten years.

Speaker 17 (33:27):
My male has ten years. My brother in law just
gave me his cat in December, at the end of December, Okay.

Speaker 9 (33:34):
Okay, because that would be very unusual if the cat's
have been together for ten years and fighting now, So
this is a new introduction that's not by Colin because
I don't want I gotta say LORI now, just declining
a cat does not stop aggression. So don't let anybody
tell you that declining a cat is going to stop
them from fighting with another cat.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
We have to get to the right of the problem
here and see.

Speaker 17 (33:58):
That I just didn't want her injured, and he's now
an indoor cat.

Speaker 25 (34:02):
So he didn't really need his cloth. I thought, I
that's how to eliminates cat.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So both of these kids are inside.

Speaker 17 (34:09):
Yes, they are now all inside.

Speaker 26 (34:11):
I used to live on a farm.

Speaker 25 (34:12):
There used to be all outside on a farm, my
mail and email. And then when I moved into town,
I would take my mail back home to the farm
for the summers to do mouth hunting for my mom.
And then that no longer happens. So he's now in
the house, all right.

Speaker 9 (34:28):
So and then, so these kidis have been together since December?
How do do they always fight? Do they get along
in harmony at any times.

Speaker 28 (34:36):
Of the day?

Speaker 17 (34:37):
They fight primarily when it's nighttime. But I know there
are periods during.

Speaker 26 (34:44):
The day when my male.

Speaker 25 (34:46):
Cat, whose name is Lola, will go after a brandy
one that my.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Brother in law gave you.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
All right, Well, and then and so you said your
other kid he checked out for diabetes. Fine, so that's
not on the table at all. So we don't have
that going on, correct, correct?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
All right?

Speaker 9 (34:59):
Well, a couple of things that we're going to want
to do when we introduce cats like this, you know,
we just kind of throw them together and hope that.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
All goes well.

Speaker 9 (35:06):
Sometimes it does, but when it doesn't, it's really important
to take two.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Steps, three steps, four steps backwards.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
And that really means that giving the kitties their individual space,
and if there's daily altercations that are going on, then
they are definitely not ready to be together. And this
can be hard to accomplish in some households, but to
really have these kitties separated, when we can put them
in together in a controlled environment where preferably we try

(35:32):
to pair the presence of the two cats together with
something really favorable like food. So we try not to
leave food out and freely accessible, and we put it
down when the other cats around. So in some households,
which you can do is put a closed door.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
One cat's on one side, one cats and the other.

Speaker 9 (35:48):
Their food gets presented at that door interface and they
can smell each other, they know the other cats there,
but the food becomes a positive association with just the
near presence of that other cat. So that's kind of
going back to square one. Cats are fighting and not
getting along. Some cats you got to really separate them
for a day or even a couple of days. Some
cats even up to five days because they're so vigilant, they're.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
So kind of stooped up that they just the site of.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
That other cat within those few days really triggers the
escalation of the altercation again, So you have to kind
of keep that in mind and kind of know your
cat's behavior. If your one cat is always agitated looking
and hunting for the other cat, he needs a break.
He thinks that that's what he's got to do to
ensure his home is safe. So keeping them separated and

(36:34):
then doing a controlled reintroduction is really the way that
we can gradually help these guys along.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
The next thing is that we have to make sure
that we have.

Speaker 9 (36:43):
Ample resources for cats, and sometimes they will have territorial
disputes over litter boxes, nesting sites, bedding sites, food, and water.
So for two cats, we really ought to have three
litter sites in this house, and we need to have
at least two different feeding station in different areas. Height
height is the way that cats get away from the world,

(37:05):
so we want cat trees, We want purchase by the
windows in multiple locations.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
So that kitties can have their places to go.

Speaker 9 (37:13):
And then the next step that before we start getting
into the heavy duty things like drugs, is that I
like to use cat pheromones, which are the scent hormones
that are kitty calming hormone, and those are available in
sprays diffusers, and it can help. It's not a cure
all by itself, but it can certainly help with some
of these environmental changes in making it.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
More workable for these kitties to get along.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
And then the other important thing that I'll mention Laurie
is that if you do catch your cats where he's
starting to get vigilant, he's starting to stalk her, he's
starting to kind of go after her, you don't want
to yell at him and punish him in any way
that actually can kind of make him more jazzed up
and make things worse. So we do look for distractions,

(38:01):
and we look for things that he can do as
an alternative. So sometimes we'll use like noise makers. Sometimes
it's something that's shaking a can of pounds, a treats
and just having him.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Go towards another direction.

Speaker 9 (38:14):
But really to try to just avoid and prevent those
situations and not to make anyone feel bad about it
because they're doing what they do. Cats.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
You know, cats are funny.

Speaker 9 (38:24):
It's I always say it's kind of like you know,
college age girls sharing a dorm room. You can put
them together, but they're not going to necessarily like each
other get along.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
You have to kind of give them their personal space
in that way.

Speaker 17 (38:35):
I have to just think started, thank goodness, that's a
little boxes and I have water on all three levels
in my house and food in the two different areas.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, and that's all of these things. You know, it's
not just one thing.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
So you really have to do some of these kind
of broad changes through the home environment. And I mentioned
drugs as the last therapy because you know, we can
be popping pills into him and it doesn't necessarily change
the environment.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
And for that's really a big thing.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
Some great things to kind of redirect that predatory drive
that he's now putting on the other Kidi, where do
you get some of these great interactive toys. Frawley Cat,
for one, makes a lot of neat things that'll keep
his attention so where he can chase, you know, a
little mouse that's going around, laser tech toys, things like that,
where you know, it really gives him an outlet to

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be a cat and to be a predatory cat.

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three four fifty nineteen. Celebrating our connection with our pets.
This is Animal Radio. Here are your hosts, Hal Abrams
and Judy Francis.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
It's a big, big show today. Sometime this hour, Joey
Veolani will try his hand at comedy with a pet
related grooming related joke. And it's very hard to find
something that's related to both of those. But you've worked many,
many hours to find something that's yes, truly appropriate. Hey Stace,

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what are you working on?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't know if you've ever swallowed anything whole before
that you're not supposed to swallow.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I did once.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
I swallowed a penny when I was a kid, and
I remember my mom turned me upside down and my
sisters by my feet. They stuffed a bagel in me
and then they turned me upside down. I don't know
why they gave me the bagels then they turned me
upside down. But anyway, they tried to get the penny out.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
That didn't work.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
It had to come out other ways. But there's a
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all about this pooch and how he's doing coming up
on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
You know, I swallow any things. Hole is my hobby.
Now let me ask you guys this. If I were
to swallow hole that guy what's his name, Kobyashi, the
guy who eats a lot, oh, after he eats like,
let's say he breaks the world's record freaing pizza and
then I swallow him.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Hold then break the record.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yes, you automatically get the record after that.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I'll make a swallowing your whole joel, Hey, you would
do that for me.

Speaker 18 (41:32):
I'm blessing.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I'll be Ya's see. Oh that noise in the background
if you hear that, let me tell you what that
We got a bagel stuck in the air conditioner.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
How did that happen?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, I don't want to know. A little pre show.

Speaker 9 (41:43):
Yeah, well, you know what, I can step on my
desk and I might be able to tap it.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Doctor Debbie dislodging the bagel from the air conditioner as
she steps up on the equipment.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Got dust in my eyes.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
What are you gonna do with the bagel? You're gonna
eat that? Because if you're not gonna eat that, I'll
take the baby.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
If it was a Jonant, I would consider it, but
I don't know about the bagel.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Let's hit the phones. We have Tammy on the phone. Hi, Tammy,
how are you doing?

Speaker 26 (42:09):
I'm fine?

Speaker 14 (42:09):
Thank you?

Speaker 8 (42:10):
How are you save us?

Speaker 26 (42:12):
I'm trying.

Speaker 10 (42:12):
I'm trying.

Speaker 26 (42:13):
You guys are having a good time though without.

Speaker 10 (42:14):
Me, So I'll do the best I can.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (42:19):
I have a one.

Speaker 26 (42:20):
Year old boxer, actually he's one of three boxers, and
every time I come home and let him out of
the crate, he attacks me with so much excitement. I mean,
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
What do you do?

Speaker 16 (42:38):
Well?

Speaker 26 (42:38):
I ignore him. I turned my back to them too,
which he just jumps all over the backside of me.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Perfect that you do?

Speaker 26 (42:46):
I tell him no, and I put my hand like
flat out in front of his face. That does absolutely nothing.

Speaker 10 (42:52):
He's just so excited.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Let's talk. Yeah, And you know what, that's that's pretty common.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
And I always tell people when they come home to
ignore their for the first fifteen or twenty minutes and
when they leave, they should ignore their dog for the
first fifteen or twenty minutes because we talk about triggers
and when you leave the house, there are certain things
you do that let your dog know that you're leaving,
and that gets them cranked up on the juice I
like to call it. And young dogs they get cranked
up on the juice big time. And so since dogs

(43:17):
don't talk, we have to communicate.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
With our bodies. That's what they learn.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
So you turning your back on him is perfect, and
you've got to keep doing that. It won't work instantly.
A lot of people think, oh, that didn't work, I
got to try something else. But turning your back on
your dog, ignoring your dog when he's doing things that
you don't like, is a great way to teach your
dog to do things that you do like. That's what
you want to do. Usually when a dog jumps on you,
or he doesn't walk on the leash properly. It's not

(43:41):
because you know he wants to be bad. It's because
you haven't taught him that. You don't want him to
do that, and the best way again to teach him
is to ignore him. So what I want you to
do is when you come home, don't let him out
of the crate. Just go about your business. Don't talk
to him, don't look at him. And it's very hard
for humans not to talk. You know, we want to talk.
That's how we can communicate. Dogs don't talk, they just

(44:02):
watch you.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
So I aw.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I always tell my kids, you know, I love being
with the dog because he doesn't talk, because my kids
talk and talk.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
And they never say anything. They just keep talking.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
So when you come home, ignore him for fifteen minutes,
let him out of the kennel. If he's probably not
going to be as excited because you know he's got
fifteen minutes to calm down, he's going to start to
learn that when you come home, you're not going to
let him out of the kennel right away, and only
let him out when he's calm, and you let him
out if he jumps on you turn your back on
him and pay no attention to him, and it might

(44:32):
take a week, two weeks, three weeks, a month before
he starts to figure out, okay, I'm not getting any
attention anymore for jumping on her. Then when he sits
down and he's calm, that's when you give him attention.
Remember that's a very important rule. Only give your dog
attention when he's doing what you want him to do.
Never give him attention when he's doing what you don't
want him to do, because it confuses him.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Look at it from the dog's point of view.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
If he jumps on you and gets attention, even if
it's negative attention, well he's going to keep jumping on you.
So you ignore them when they're doing what you don't like.
But you've got to do it for a period of time,
a long period of time, and you've got to have
patience and stick with it.

Speaker 10 (45:08):
All right, I can do it.

Speaker 26 (45:10):
Definitely do that. Because he's he's killing me and I
just have a a twelve week old puppy. He's kind
of teaching him the same.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Oh of course they feed off of Yeah, they feed up.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
So you being calm, Remember, ignore them when you come home,
ignore them when you leave the house.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
That's key. That's a very important thing.

Speaker 26 (45:29):
Okay, so before we leave, we put them in their
crate and then just kind of like hang out here.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
And then go.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Yes, put them in their crates fifteen minutes to a
half hour before you leave or else that will be
a trigger. So what you do is you put them
in the crate sometimes when you're not even leaving.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
You know, you confuse. What you do is you trick them,
You change the pattern.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
So maybe once every other day you just stick them
in the crate for no reason at all, go into
the next room, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
But when you leave the.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
House, put him in the crate fifteen minutes to a
half hour before you go. It will give him a
lot of time to mellow out. Don't say goodbye. It's
gonna be very hard. You're gonna forget, You're gonna go,
oh see you later.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Boy, don't say anything. Just leave. Don't say anything.

Speaker 26 (46:08):
Okay, you can do it.

Speaker 16 (46:10):
I Alan.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
What if the dog is doing something destructive, Well, when
a dog's doing something destructive, you've got to make a
major correction right then and there so that he connects
the dots. So like, let's say your dog starts chewing
your furniture, right, you immediately give him a correction. You
immediately go over there and you you if he's got
a leash handle on you flick your risk give him
a correction, or you just go no and you just
tap him on the neck with your fingers and then

(46:33):
you stick a toy in his face that he's allowed
to chew. It's all about teaching them what you want,
setting them up for success, and rewarding them when they're
doing exactly what it is you want.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
That's how my wife trained me.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Well, that's when you think about it. Dogs and men
are a lot of life because men don't hear what
women say. They just notice the body language, like you know,
oh honey, you're mad. Yeah, because the woman turns our
back on him and walks away, and then he's like, oh,
something's wrong here, something's wrong.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Amanda. Hey, Amanda, how are you doing well?

Speaker 8 (46:59):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Recalling from today, cheery little Gal.

Speaker 10 (47:03):
I'm calling for a lovely port one, California, little military town.

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Give a shout out.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Animal Radio started in Oxnard, California, so we're very familiar
with the Schnard. Hey, what's going on with you? Amanda?

Speaker 10 (47:20):
Well, my neighbor has like a multitude of cat and
she is allowing her cats free range in our area,
So there's ConTroll of them.

Speaker 16 (47:33):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
They take the liberty of spraying my door, and they
have made it their thing to do. And I talk
with her and she denies that they do it, even
though she knows that they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Okay, do you have pets yourself?

Speaker 8 (47:52):
I have none, So okay.

Speaker 9 (47:54):
So you've already tried talking to her and that's not
getting you anywhere.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
Huh.

Speaker 9 (47:58):
Okay, Well, there are some things that you can use
as deterrents to try to keep the kitties away from
your area and your property. Normally, my first recommendation is
to go knocking on the door and to talk to
the folks about that, because in many communities no cats
are often let outside. There are leash laws, and to

(48:20):
allow them to run at large is actually a violation of.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
The leash laws.

Speaker 9 (48:24):
So that's something I always like to try to kind
of encourage them to take control of the key world there.
The next things that you might be faced with doing
are looking for those good deterrents that can help to
encourage those cats to find out something else that's not
so appealing as your house. And the first thing that
I like to direct folks to are some of the

(48:45):
wonderful motion activated deterrence systems that are out there.

Speaker 10 (48:49):
And these I have two of them in place, and okay,
I don't know what's going on. They jump up on
the screen.

Speaker 9 (48:56):
It's like, okay, and do you have the kind of
shoots out water or makes a sound.

Speaker 10 (49:03):
Mine I understand emits a high pitch sound that humans
don't hear, and I believe that's a lie.

Speaker 9 (49:09):
Well, it just might not be maybe as offensive as
we need. And the one thing I recommend, if you
can make it happen, is that they have motion activated
ones that actually you hook up to your sprinkler basically
sends out a big and when the kiaty sets off
that or I guess even the mailman.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
So you're gonna kind of watching how you send these
things up.

Speaker 9 (49:30):
But when the critter walks through the electronic eye though,
the water gets turned on and it you know for cats,
that's a that's a kind deterurn if you will, So
that might be one option.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
There are also other.

Speaker 9 (49:43):
Ones that are motion activated sounds. One that is like
a compressed canister that goes in kind of more along
the lines of a cat hiss, and that might be
something else that's a little bit more up in kitty's
alley than worrying about some of these high pitch noises.
And you know, I like to try some natural things

(50:03):
and throw in along with all these other steps that
I'm mentioning, use some citrus. Cats don't typically like citrus,
So you can take things like lemon peels or orange
peels and kind of put them in the area around
where you want to avoid them from going through. So
that's nice if it's a garden area or just somewhere

(50:24):
off to the side, and change that as they kind
of dry out and lose their freshness. But that can
be helpful as well to just encourage them to not
come to that area.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Now that you said this was a.

Speaker 10 (50:35):
Door or it's our screen door.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
Screen door, Okay, in most situations, if we have cats
peeing in the house and inappropriate places, we would ask
you to use an enzyme based cleaner. Now, if you
don't have a cat, you probably don't have this on
the shelf. But if there's a way that you can
kind of clean and disinfect the area, you'd want to
go to a pet store and pick up an enzyme
based cleaner that helps to break down the odor of

(51:00):
the cat urine, and that can be, you know, a
good way to try to take away some of the
interest for them returning.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
To the scene of the crime.

Speaker 9 (51:07):
And I you know the other thing, I have had
some friends that are kind of in some of the
rural areas that have told me that using some of
the different predator urines like coyote urine and kind of
taking a little essence of coyote urine and sprinkling that
in the environment that you know, different type of smell,
different kind of urine, but has a sense it can

(51:30):
be deterrent because you know, cats don't typically want to
go hanging out where some of these predators are, and
that might be a way to kind of psychologically try
to keep them away as well.

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We could get We could say, joke, Yeah, we could
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We're very happy to announce that we've removed the bagel.
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Speaker 2 (53:28):
Great?

Speaker 6 (53:29):
Great?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
What's going on?

Speaker 19 (53:30):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (53:31):
I just had a question.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
We've got a rescue dog, my wife and I. It's
a lab and pitbull mix, is what the.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
VETA has told us.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
But it's now it's got one of its toenails that's
split all the way up, and I was wondering if
you had a solution for that's like it.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
Wants to heal.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Yeah, is it bleeding? Is he looking at it?

Speaker 29 (53:53):
Yes? Yes, she is?

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Okay, Sorry, it heels up for a little bit, and
then she she seems like she pulls it apart again.
Is there some kind of a splint or something like
that I can put on something around it?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (54:08):
Well, the challenge with split nails, and now I should
ask are any of her other nails a normal or
having any problems?

Speaker 10 (54:17):
No?

Speaker 9 (54:17):
Just that one, okay, because there's a couple of things
that we really would talk about when we have a
damaged toenail, and if it's going what I call a
longitudinal break, so the split goes up the length of
the nail, and especially if it gets up as high
as where the nail bed is, so where the skin
and the nail meat. Those are the worst type of
nail breakages to deal with because one of the main

(54:41):
ways that we deal with a broken tonail is we
cut the nail back to where the nail is healthy
and stop the bleeding and it kind of shuts off
that whole pulp of the nail, if you will, and
allows it to heal.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
If we can't do that and.

Speaker 9 (54:55):
The nail is broken above the level of the nail bed,
then in many cases this just kind keeps festering. So
there's a couple of strategies. One is to try to
have that trim back and have the pet on medical therapy,
antibiotics and bandaging and to see how that grows out.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Now, ironically, last.

Speaker 9 (55:12):
Week I had I think three dogs with broken toenails
of this nature, and a couple of them we actually
had to amputate the toe. One dog had a degree
of osteomyelitis or bone infection that had occurred from the
nail being damaged above the nail bed area. That can
be determined by having an X ray of the area

(55:33):
and evaluating that if that's present.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Really the best thing is to take that end of.

Speaker 9 (55:38):
The digit off because otherwise you put the whole whole
foot and the whole toe in jeopardy there, so that
maybe one solution to stop things for other pets. If
that's not going it's not If that's not the case,
then we can try trimming it back as it starts
to grow out, to try to get that kind of
clean edge, if you will.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
And this is we are kind of you know, looking
at it.

Speaker 9 (56:01):
If you haven't had your baby to a vet, I
would definitely say that would be the first step to
see how that falls into the whole degrees of this.
Some of these guys can do fine with medical care,
but you know, you definitely need to make sure she's
on an antibiotic and some pain medicine because these things
hurt like the geezers, and they'll definitely you can't really

(56:21):
make them not chew on it because it really hurts.
And so that's that's where sometimes.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
The swiftest solution is to just.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
Cut the little tip of that nail off in a
surgery and be done over with it, and she'll heal
up in ten days.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Okay, Okay, we'll take our door of it.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Then.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
All right, thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
I appreciate it, all.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Right, thank you for the call.

Speaker 29 (56:41):
I appreciate your program.

Speaker 16 (56:43):
Listen to it every weekend.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Oh, we appreciate that you listening. Thank you so much
for joining us today.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
This is the first time that I've heard of this
kind of thing happening. Is this a diet related thing.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Well, that's a great question.

Speaker 9 (56:56):
How in many cases it's just kind of a function
of a very vigorous, active dog and just a bad accident.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
They snag it in something in the yard.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
Sometimes it's from long toenails, so we always want to
make sure the nails are kept short. There are some
dogs that this kind of break or them not healing
from the break, Mailer just to something like cancer in
the toe, so that is a possibility. And then there's
even some unusual immune problems in the nail that can occur.
So that's why I was asking him if he had

(57:26):
other toenails that were affected, because sometimes brittle broken nails
that happen all over the toes can be a symptom
of a problem that we really need to diagnose and
address in a whole body type nature.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
What he told me before we went on air is
that it was an accident. I guess his dog was
climbing or digging or something insane and injured it.

Speaker 9 (57:44):
Okay, well, that's the best case scenario and is hopefully
there's not bone infection set in and that can be
dealt with most easily.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
We are just around the corner from News with Stacy
Cohen or what do you Got.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
You know, Americans are overweight and it's one of the
top problems in the United States, but it's becoming one
of the top problems with dogs and cats, and you
know what, they're getting the same diseases as adults. I'll
tell you more about it coming up on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 18 (58:12):
Does anybody want to hear my pet based joke?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I have definitely.

Speaker 18 (58:15):
Okay, Well, this lady wants a Mexican hairless for her birthday.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
So she's waiting waiting.

Speaker 18 (58:23):
Her birthday comes up, her boyfriend comes in, and her
boyfriend has a Schnauzer and she's upset, but you know what,
it's a dog. She's happy, but she's upset. But she's
looking at the dog and she says, you know what, Honestly,
if I take all the hair off of this dog,
it'll probably look like a Mexican hairless. So what she
does is she figures that if she gets on a
haully and drives down to the local drug store. She

(58:45):
can go get some hairy move them. So she gets
on her bike, starts it up, goes to the drug store,
comes in.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
She's looking around.

Speaker 18 (58:51):
She doesn't see any hairy movers, so she figured, you know,
let me ask the pharmacist you. So she goes to
the pharmacists. Hey, do you have any hairy mover? He goes,
hold on, one second, go get it. So it goes
in the back. He comes out, and he comes out
with this can and puts it down, and he goes, Okay,
let me just tell you something about this. It's pretty strong,
so if you're going to use it on your legs,
you gotta be careful. She goes, no, it's not for

(59:12):
my legs. Okay, well, if you're gonna put it under
your arms, the same thing you got. It's not for
under my arms, it's for my schnauzer. He goes, lady,
you put that stuff on your schnauzer. You won't ride
that hally for a month. Come on, it was better
than that.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
So we got a laugh machine or anything in the
scene like.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
He didn't like the response. The response was not a proble.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
The response was bad tough room.

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This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
I'm Stacy Cohen for Animal Radio. A New York woman
says she was beyond upset when she found out that
her dog made an unplanned trip to Ireland on its own.
It happened as Edith Lombardo all Back and her family
were moving to Phoenix. She told ABC News that she
put Hendrix, that's her six year old English Springer Spaniel,

(01:00:55):
on a United Airlines flight to meet up with her
husband and her daughter. They already made the move to
the day, but just seven minutes before Hendricks's flight was
scheduled to land Lombardo, all Back got a call saying
the dog had accidentally been sent to Ireland instead. Edith
says she almost fainted at first, although the airline promised
that somebody in Ireland would feed in walk Hendricks before

(01:01:16):
the dog made the seven hour trip back to the
New Jersey airport. Edith says she spent some time with
Hendricks before he had to hop on another plane to
reach his final destination in Arizona. United of course apologized
for what they called a rare incident, and they refunded
her money back. That dog should have got at least
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(01:01:37):
problem for Americans, It's a problem for pets too. According
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Fifty two percent of dogs tip the scales at what
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(01:02:00):
about eighty million dogs and cats who are living under
the care of Americans, who are also at increased risk
for disorders like diabetes and hypertension and many cancers too.
In cats, the study found a significant escalation in the
number of type two diabetes cases and dogs. Certain breeds
like Labrador Retrievers Golden Retrievers were found to be at
greater risk for obesity than others. It's just their body type.

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I have a lab who's a little chubby too. I
mean he eats the same as my Jack Russell and
my other mixed breed dog, but he's still kind of chunky.
Try to, you know, you try to keep them slim.
Best thing is get those dogs out to run around.
There's a dog in Manhattan who's doing just fine after
vets successfully removed more than one hundred pennies from his tummy.

(01:02:43):
The owner of the thirteen year old Jack Russell terrier
told the New York Daily News his dog is more
like the Tasmanian Devil, since the energetic dog eats just
about anything he can get. That includes one hundred and
eleven pennies that were knocked to the floor when he
went after a bag of bagels that were left on
a desk that's pulled the pennies out at five at
a time during a two hour operation. And guess what, Yes,

(01:03:07):
they got to keep the change. I'm Stacy Cohen. Get
more animal breaking news at animal radio dot com.

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Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Here's Alan Judy. Is this true? We're having the cat
Whisper on today, Yes, we are. What is Michelle nagel Schneider.

Speaker 15 (01:03:29):
I think you've got that right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Okay, she'll be talking to your cats in just a
few minutes right here at Animal Radio.

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I love her name.

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I think I have a little nagol Schneider on my neck.
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Okay, can we get back to this radio thing?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yes? Sure, our dream team here, just in case you
are new to animal radio. To my left, doctor Debbie
answering your vet medical questions. To my right now is
dog father Joey Valani. They swap places with dog trainer
Alan Cable. They're playing musical chairs in the studio. It
seems like, and we welcome to the show. I did
not know that there was such a thing as the

(01:04:34):
cat whisperer. There certainly is. Michelle Nagelschneider. Hi, and Michelle,
how are you doing?

Speaker 30 (01:04:38):
I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Now tell us about your cats? First of all, are
they well behaved? Because the carpenter's cabinets are always the
worst cabinets. It's the same thing I wonder about, you know, behaviorists.
Are your cats well behaved?

Speaker 30 (01:04:52):
I am very lucky in that sense. They're all seven
of them sitting here watching me. Probably thinking how to
foil my plans or what I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Say, seven of them.

Speaker 19 (01:05:00):
We are very lucky.

Speaker 30 (01:05:01):
But but I know what you mean. It's that what
do they say that children are the shoemaker's children have
no shoes. I'm lucky in that sense that they are.
They're really well and we just adopted our seventh cat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
And with seven cats, there's no like peeing going on,
weird inappropriate urination or anything.

Speaker 30 (01:05:17):
Really no, I have enough litter boxes everywhere, So that's
the key. A lot of people put them all in
the same area and as they get older, that's one
of the ways they structure their social hierarchy is time
sharing the litter box areas and the food areas, of
water areas, all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Well, so now you have eight litter boxes.

Speaker 30 (01:05:33):
Yeah, at least eight least eight boxes lost right out
in many different areas. I have one right now, I'm
in my office. I have one in my closet, you know,
because I know what happens, you know, I'm not immune
to anything, you know, so I definitely want them spread
out everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Well, that's probably like one of the biggest problems you
hear about, I assume is inapropriate.

Speaker 30 (01:05:52):
One that's about seventy percent of what I do is
the letterbox.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
And I've seen where people have, you know, three cats,
and they'll say, well, I have four litter boxes. There
are all in one room and they have a two
story house. It's like, well, no, what have issues?

Speaker 30 (01:06:05):
Yeah? And things are fine until the cats are about
two years old. That's one of the emails we get
most often.

Speaker 16 (01:06:10):
If everything was.

Speaker 30 (01:06:11):
Fine until they're about too But then that's when they
move into social maturity and they want to structure their
social hierarchy and they'll they want to work out this
time share arrangement with the other cats in the household,
and so if they can't do it very easily, they'll
just carve out their own area, like under the dining
room table or on your couch, something like that. And
then other problems follow too. Then you get preferences for

(01:06:33):
soft things to urinate on, and so the problem just grows,
you know, So you got to take care of it
sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Well, you put together a book, The Cat Whisper, Why
cats do what they do and how to get them
to do what you want? And hold for the laughter
just because well.

Speaker 30 (01:06:49):
No, no, because that title. It's a long story how
that came out. Random House is the publisher, but it Yeah,
I always thought in parentheses it should say, well, it's
really what your cats, it's what you're cats want. But
I'm not going to tell you the owner that you
know it is really there. We good to direct their
behavior where we want it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Well, is it really possible to train a cat? I
mean I don't think so, but.

Speaker 30 (01:07:12):
Yeah, for sure, Well anything with the brain, uh, they
learn by experience. You know, you can train a goldfish,
you know, and just simply the way to describe that.
I always mention this to my clients. You know, if
you walk to the uh the gold fish tank and
you pick up the food, I mean they know they're like,
oh that, you know, that leads to food, and so

(01:07:32):
they'll swim to the top of the uh to the
top of the water, you know, to be fed. And
if anything, I mean hope hopefully we can train cats,
because they can train us very well. You know, they've
got that down. In fact, you know, me, yamo, give
me food, let me outside. So but they the one
element that's missing with cats is they don't want to
They don't have any need.

Speaker 17 (01:07:52):
To obey us.

Speaker 30 (01:07:53):
Like the dogs, they have that pack mentality, so that's
out of the equation, which in some ways can make
it more simple. Well, they're really you know, food motivated,
attention motivated. You know, my cats are clicker trained. Many
of them can do high five. I just you know,
do the click and oh great, now here they all
come and get something. But yeah, so and it's stimulating,

(01:08:14):
you know, to train them. You know they do. You know,
some cats, they their minds are really meant to do something.
We keep them inside the house, keeping them in captivity,
if you think about it, kind of a natural. They
really need to have their little minds working. So training them,
we're doing some you know, positive based reward system like
clicker training is a good thing.

Speaker 15 (01:08:31):
Okay, I have.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
Four cats, and one cat is always trying to run
out the door. They're all indoor, and a minute that
door is open, he runs out between your legs. He's
very smart, he's he needs challenges and stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:08:42):
How the heck do I get him to stop running
out the door?

Speaker 16 (01:08:45):
Is here?

Speaker 30 (01:08:46):
Running out the door when you come home or when
you want to as soon as.

Speaker 15 (01:08:50):
That door is open, doesn't matter coming or going down.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
And they just want to get out.

Speaker 15 (01:08:53):
All he just wants out. He sees an open door
and he goes for it.

Speaker 30 (01:08:55):
So what we've done with our clients that door dard
And there's a few things. But so for example, when
you come home, you could begin training him to go
to a place where he would receive some treats or
his cat. But you know something that he would eat
right away, and so he would immediately learn that. Oh,

(01:09:16):
when she comes home and opens the door, I run
to the opposite end of the house to my cat
tree and that's right. I get fat. So that takes time,
I mean everything about a few weeks. But he would
just that, would you know, as long as he's food motivated.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
I do I have a treat that he would love
to do that? Yeah, I never thought of that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Miss, Miss what's your last name? Again?

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
I love.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Do a lot of people. You know what you need
to be a permanent part of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
She's great.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
She should be the cat expert on this show.

Speaker 30 (01:09:45):
Well, if anyone can pronounce my name, I always say
it's easier than jingle heimmer Schmidt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
The book is called The Cat Whisper, Why cats do
what they do and how to get them to do
what you want. The author Michelle Nigel Schneider, joining us.
I have ten copies to give away right now, don't
you nine copies? Figure, there's always one lost to the
cause it got lost. If you're not lucky enough to
get through, head on over to the well. How about
Amazon or your bookstore asked them to order it? Either one?

(01:10:14):
If you have a bookstore, Those things are going extinct,
like nobody's business.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Could I use this book on women? This sounds a
lot like what women you know, like the techniques.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You read my mind? Yeah, you read my mind.

Speaker 30 (01:10:25):
Wasn't a question for me? If you can use it
on women?

Speaker 16 (01:10:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 30 (01:10:28):
I always tell everyone that, you know, it's the men
that love cats. They usually do better with women. They
don't need that immediate gratification like they do dogs, you know,
and they are so much more like cats.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
You go there, you go that can give in.

Speaker 30 (01:10:42):
You know, we're our own species.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Are you? Are you with man? And how many letter
boxes does he need?

Speaker 30 (01:10:49):
Oh? God, he actually goes outside?

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Does he have a cat? Would you would you be
more attracted to a guy with a cat or a dog?

Speaker 30 (01:10:57):
Definitely a cat. Everyone that i've in the past, they've
all been don well, actually know. I guess out A
few of them have been cappy, but I think the
catmen are more gentle and more letting you be who
you want to be, you know, versus no, you know?

Speaker 15 (01:11:11):
Thinking back, I agree, I tell you agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
You know, I got an easy judy for you with
the cat. So what do you do?

Speaker 18 (01:11:17):
Is you leave a box right outside the door of
the cat so that the opening of the box faces
the door.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
So when you open up the door to cat runs
right in the box.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
You bring the box in the house. It's a lot easier.

Speaker 20 (01:11:31):
I would love to go on vacation, but I don't
want to leave our Charlie behind.

Speaker 31 (01:11:35):
I agree. I heard that the magazine Fido Friendly lists
places where you can stay with your pet. They also
offer reviews, so you have an idea about pet policy,
to include any restrictions, fees, and what pedimenities to expect.

Speaker 15 (01:11:47):
That's dare I say, awesome, what are we waiting for?

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I'm way ahead of you.

Speaker 31 (01:11:52):
I just logged onto fido friendly dot com and found
the four star resort Hilton Santa Fe Resort and spaw
at Buffalo Thunder in New Mexico. Charlie, when do we
leave as soon as you can back your bags. It's
off to adventure with Charlie. Thanks to Fido Friendly Magazine.
To find your next family adventure that includes your furry
family friend, log on to Fido Friendly dot com.

Speaker 12 (01:12:13):
You're listening to Animal Radio and here are your hosts,
Hall Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
We welcome back to the show doctor Gerald Post. He's
the owner of the Veterinary Cancer Center and they are
dedicated to the diagnosis and treatment of cancer and animals,
which is no longer necessarily a death sentence the doctor welcome.

Speaker 29 (01:12:32):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
We had a chance to talk a little over a
month ago about cancer and animals and we ran out
of time. But well, I wanted to talk to you
about what animals are predisposed to cancers and what types.

Speaker 29 (01:12:43):
The best breeds are probably going to be no surprise,
mixed breed dogs as far as their risk for cancer.
But I would say people need to not only look
at risk of cancer, but also personality size things like
that when they evaluate what breed you get. But as

(01:13:03):
far as cancer goes, there are a number of breeds
that are predisposed to either one or multiple types of cancers.
And if you look at comparing a population of you know,
mixed breed dogs to a population of let's say, purebread
dogs like Golden Retrievers or raw Wilers or flack coded retrievers,

(01:13:27):
the portion of dogs that are mixed breed will have
a lower incidence of cancer in general. And that's something
called hybrid vigor. In other words, mixing if two breeds
genes tends to bring out the best in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Both, much are generally stronger all around, aren't they?

Speaker 29 (01:13:45):
They usually are, you know, from a genetic standpoint, absolutely so.

Speaker 9 (01:13:49):
Beyond with with like you know, with my clients, when
they come in with that brand new puppy, you hate
to freak them out and tell them all the bad
stuff that's going to happen. But you know, I think
part of you know, my job is to educate folks
on what potential diseases.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
So beyond that, what else do you advocate for? I'm
sure for folks with new pets, absolutely so.

Speaker 29 (01:14:08):
I think that not only is knowledge power, but by
knowing what to look for, sometimes you can catch these diseases,
whether they're cancer or otherwise, at an early enough stage
where you can potentially cure them whereas if you didn't
know what to look for and they rear their ugly heads,
they could be lethal. So for instance, you know the

(01:14:31):
breeds that we see a lot of cancer, and you know,
for instance, Golden Retrievers. I still think they're an amazing
breed to have. They're wonderful, sweet, family friendly, kid friendly,
and they're just an all around wonderful dog. But if
you do want a Golden Retriever, or if you're advising
your clients about it, I would advise them, you know what,
you should probably be on the lookout for lambsoma or hamangiosarcoma,

(01:14:54):
which is a tumor of the screen in general or typically,
And so when that when the animal becomes you know,
middle aged five six seven, maybe having you know, routine ultrasounds,
X rays, bloodwork and physical exams done every six months
to a year may be warranted. If you have a
owner who just you know, adopted or bought a larger,

(01:15:18):
giant breed dog, being on the lookout for any type
of you know, acute lameness and being understanding that bone
cancer and those animals are much more common than in
smaller dogs may make you a bit more unlikely to
bring the pet in for X rays of a lameness
rather than just treating it with a nonsteroidal or rest

(01:15:41):
things like that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:42):
We're always talking about dog breeds that are pre disposed
to cancer. Are there any cat breeds that are predisposed
to certain cancers?

Speaker 29 (01:15:50):
So it's a really great question. And certainly, you know,
in the United States, the vast majority of cats that
you know, we see in our practice are domestic short hairs,
and so the breed specific literature on cancer risk is
much less robust intact than it is in dogs. I
would say that there are certain breeds that have a

(01:16:13):
risk for other diseases. For instance, the certain British breeds
have a tendency to have one type of blood type.
There are Siamese cats who tend to have one type
of mast cell tumor that tends to be called a
histiocetic mass cell tumors, and Sianese cats will often regress

(01:16:36):
on their own. And so yeah, there are breed dispositions
and cats as well as dogs. But one of the
interesting things about breeds and knowing the breed specificity is,
for instance, bladder cancer, which is incredibly common in Scottish carriers.
There is a urine test called the bladder tumor antigen test,

(01:16:58):
and use seeing that test in young Scottish terriers typically
every six months, or West Highland White Terriers when they're
young every six months. If you get a negative result
on them, that tells you that your dog, with a
very very very high level of confidence does not have
bladder cancer. So you can go on for the next

(01:17:19):
six months and kind of take a breath.

Speaker 9 (01:17:22):
And a lot of these things that you're talking about
aren't necessarily running like hundreds of dollars ser of tests
every time you go to the veterinarian. It's more keeping
up with those regular physical exams, right.

Speaker 29 (01:17:32):
Absolutely correct. And you know, also again when you're advising
your clients when they're you know, getting a dog, adopting
a dog, or buying a dog, by knowing what specifically
to look for, you can be a little bit closer attention.
You know, when you do a physical exam on a
dying breed dog to look at the joints and specific locations.
When you're doing your exam on a Scottish Terrier or

(01:17:54):
west a little bit more attention to the bladder. So no,
these tests are not overly expensive and a physical examination,
you know, is really going to be your best friend
when it comes to prevent it. Just medicine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
There's so much to learn about this. You can check
out the website by the way, at VCC hope dot
com VCC hope dot com. As in Vennary Cancer Center
at doctor Gerald Post joining us, there's a list of
dogs and breeds that are predisposed to cancer. We're gonna
put that list up over at the website at Animal
radio dot com. Doctor Post, thank you so much for
joining us again.

Speaker 29 (01:18:29):
Absolutely always a pleasure and thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
That's all we have for you today. We thank you
so much for listening. Do not forget. You can ask
your questions all week long from the Animal Radio app
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Animal Radio app right now. You can also listen to
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Animal Radio right here on this fine station.

Speaker 15 (01:18:49):
Bye bye, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
This is able Animal US Radio Network.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Hmm.

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