If Your Dog Is Fat - You Might Be Too. - The Animal Radio® Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor Debbie White, dog trainer
Alan Cable, groomer Joey Vallani, communicator Joy Turner, and here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm Hat Abrams and I'm working on my clone as
I started last week. I put a little bit of
DNA in this Petrie dish over here, and it really
isn't it really isn't doing anything.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, it's very I think that's mold. Yeah, it looks
like mold.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Looks like don king.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
You know, it's working.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Clones don't happen overnight. Okay, give it some time, folks,
give it another week or so. Oh, at least we
have a fat show today. If you're fat, probably means
your pets fat. That's because you're sitting on the couch
all day long and they're not getting the exercise they need. Today,
we're going to talk about a fat cat, a fat
dog who weighed way too much seventy seven pounds for
docks and they're supposed to weigh what twenty thirty pounds

(00:57):
at the moment, yeahs had emergency surgery to remove this
scheme after he lost what fifty pounds. We'll find out
all on the show today, as well as a guy
who started a Kickstarter project for a treadmill for cats.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Wow. Pretty incredible show. I like the theme.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
And of course we have Joey Velani, who's going to
tell us about skeeters. You talk about skeeters today and
getting rid of skeeters are your paths?

Speaker 6 (01:20):
I'm talking about skeeters. But if you would have told
me this was going to be a fat show, I
could have talked about, you know, how to make a
fat dog look slim too, you know, but nobody. Nobody
prepped me on this.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Really interesting you can do that just cosmetically.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Mirrors could do that.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
Well, you could do that a little bit with haircuts
and how to do it. It's called camouflage grooming.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Maybe next week, that's right. Okay, there you go, Stacey.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Well, we all know the dolphins are pretty smart. In fact,
the Navy has their own team of dolphins, bottlenose dolphins
that actually work for the Navy. Well, they found something
underwater off the California coast, a very rare antique, I'll
tell you all the details coming up on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Jimmy Hoffel has cool pets.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
That they got dolphins that find antiques, this one.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
My dogs do nothing. They pee, pay and balk and
look at you.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Hey, Kim, do you talk baby talk to your pets?

Speaker 8 (02:10):
You know what I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
They don't like that, Thank goodness. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I understand you have dog problems.

Speaker 9 (02:19):
You know I do.

Speaker 8 (02:20):
And we adopted a Siberian husky from a rescue about
three months ago. And shortly after we adopted him, he
kind of had issues. So we put him into boarding
and training and we got him back probably, I want
to say, about a week ago, and he was there
for three weeks before that. The separation anxiety was pretty
strong and it's still really strong. And you know, I

(02:46):
want him to be a happy dog. So I just
want to better understand, you know, what's causing this and
how how to address it.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Hey, Kim, who did you adopt him from? You said,
I didn't hear.

Speaker 8 (03:00):
We adopted him from the Southern California Siberian Rescue.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
And how old is he? How old is he?

Speaker 8 (03:06):
He is now? He's about eighteen months old, Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
And so what does he do when you come home?

Speaker 8 (03:12):
Well, when we leave, it's like he's just so upset
and it sounds like he's literally being tortured.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
And so then when when you leave and he's so upset,
it sounds like he's being tortured. What do you do
at that point in time? What do you do? Exactly?

Speaker 8 (03:26):
Ignore him?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Okay? Do you just walk out the door?

Speaker 8 (03:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
And then what happens when you leave? Does he destroy anything?

Speaker 8 (03:33):
What does he do if it's outside? If I go
to the car that's outside, he starts thrashing at the gates?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
How I mean when Okay, let's say you leave, right,
you come back home? What has he done to your house? Anything?

Speaker 8 (03:46):
Not anything? Now, we also learned to keep put things.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Away, so he doesn't destroy anything. He just sort of
probably mellows out and lays there. Right.

Speaker 8 (03:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's my guest.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
So right before you leave the house, what do you do?

Speaker 8 (04:00):
I will probably do my routine where I'll grab my purse.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Okay, so you know, dogs have triggers. Think about what
you're doing right before you leave the house. You grab
your purse. Dogs go from hot to cold really quick,
from cold to hot really quick. But there's certain triggers.
There's certain things that they've learned through your behavior and
watching you that you do right before you leave the
house which gets him excited, doesn't it. So picking up
your purse would be one of them.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
Yeah, I mean understand.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, So you want to give your dog confidence. He's
a very insecure dog, and there's a lot of things
you can do to do that, and one of them,
of course, is a daily walk. Daily walks are so
important for dogs. People just don't realize how important it
is to walk with your dog thirty minutes a day
on a leash, meeting people, going past other dogs, doing

(04:47):
things that make your dog feel confidence and a walk
is a great way to build confidence and trust between
you and your dogs. So that's an important thing to do.
The other thing is to stop slow down from hyperspeed,
because when you leave the house, you're subconsciously just doing
what you do. So what you have to do is
slow down the process and analyze your behavior, what you're
doing before you leave the house, and you have to

(05:10):
recognize the triggers that are getting your dog excited. So
picking your purse up is one of them. So here's
an exercise. Let's say you pick up your purse, you
grab your coat. Those are the two things you do
before you leave the house. Your dog starts to get
wound up in kooky before you leave. Well, what you
want to do is start picking your purse up and
carrying it around the house but not going anywhere, so
your dog, your dog loses the ability to recognize that

(05:32):
as a trigger. And then as you pick your purse up, okay,
and you start walking around the house, you don't talk
to your dog, but you carry treats in your pocket,
and every time you put the purse on your shoulder.
After a little while, you start giving your dog a treat,
just giving them a treat every time you put the
purse on your shoulder. So he starts to associate your

(05:53):
purse with not bad, not I'm leaving. He starts to
associate your purse with oh, every time she puts that
purse on, I get a treat. Okay, And then what
you want to do, whatever other triggers there are, you
want to do the same thing. Then what you want
to do is you want to start going towards the
door and just standing there. You just stand by the door,
but you don't actually leave. Okay, Your dog's going to

(06:14):
start getting crazy. When you go to the door, he
thinks you're leaving, but you don't actually leave, and you
just stand there. And after doing that a couple of days,
when your dog start stops reacting to you going to
the door, you start telling him, good dog. You start
rewarding him with a little bit of affection for being
calm when you walk towards the door, and then you

(06:35):
open the door. You know, you chain them up so
he can't run out, obviously, and then you do the
same thing. It's a step by step progression. And when
you come home, how does the dog act.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
Usually he's excited and she pease.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Okay when he's excited, and he's submissive peace when you
come home. And it's interesting. I'll tell you a story.
If I have time about a guy. You know, there
might be things you're doing you don't realize that are
causing him to pee. But when you come home and
he gets excited, what do you do? Do You give
him affection?

Speaker 8 (07:04):
You know, I've I don't. I walk through and it's
usually a very calm hello, and he gets you know,
he's he starts to jump in and if I do
pat him on the head, or give him a nuzzle
underneath he that's when he starts to peace. So there's
some attention, but it's not over attention.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
You're giving him attention with it. You're giving him attention
without realizing it because you're feeling guilty. Okay, so when
you you know, when you feel human emotions, they transcend
right into your dog. So what you've got to do
is you come home. It's a non event. You open
the door, you walk in, You pay no attention to
him for like fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes. As soon as

(07:40):
he starts to be calm, just goes and lays down.
That's when you walk over and gently pet him and
give him a treat, say good dog. And doing that consistently,
over and over and over again forever teaches him that
he gets attention when he's calm. Teaches him that he
gets a treat when he's calm. Teaches him you're not
going to pay any attention to him when he's wound

(08:02):
up in manic. The only way to teach dogs what
you want is with action, because words mean nothing to them.
As a matter of fact, they think you're joining in
when you get excited and you start talking just to
give you an example of what I'm talking about. And
I hope I have time. Hell I hope I'm not
eating up too much time. But this is an interesting story.
A guy I was working with. His dog would go

(08:24):
nuts and chew up stuff, and you know, when he
came home, the dog would pee. And I say, well, well,
tell me about your tell me about your week last week,
and he said, well, last week was interesting. I got
a raise last week. And I came home and the
dog had showed up my favorite pair of Nikes, and
I was so happy about my rais. I just pet
him and it was no big deal. Firstly, this is
a guy who refused to create his dog, and you

(08:45):
can't do that, can't put him in a cage. It's cruel,
it's mean. Okay, whatever, So then I go, tell me
about the rest of your week. So two days later,
he comes home. He's really mad because his dog gave
him a repriman. I'm sorry his boss gave him a
reprimand because he hadn't finished an assignment on time. He
comes home. Of course, his dog had destroyed something else.
I think it was a pair of drapes that he

(09:06):
dragged off the window or something, and so now he's mad.
Now he's mad, and now he's reprimanding his dog. So
I ask him, you know, he's a human, he's supposed
to be smart. What do you think the dog thinks
when you come home? What do you think is going
on in the dog's mind? Right? And he goes, you know,
I never thought about that, And I go, well, let
me tell you what. The dog doesn't know that you

(09:26):
got a raise. The dog doesn't know that you got reprimanded.
The dog doesn't know that you're mad or happy because
he chewed up your shoes. He associates you coming home
with I don't know what the heck is going to happen.
Sometimes this guy walks through the door and gives me affection.
Sometimes he walks through the door and he punishes me.
So the dog gets really, really nervous and anxious in peace.

Speaker 8 (09:47):
Ah, it makes sense. And I guess the dog owners
just steal that sense of guilt when we don't give
them attention. But it's you know, obviously it sounds like it.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
You know what, The kindest thing that you or any
dog dog owner can do is teach your dog the
rules that will get him attention. And not giving him
attention first, but last, because dogs crave consistency, They crave rules,
they crave structure, they crave leadership. They need that to
be happy and calm and well adjusted. And a calm

(10:17):
dog is a happy dog. And so you can do
this because you're smart, Kim. I can tell by talking
to you that you are very smart, and you can.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yeah, I mean I want him, you know I did.
I put him in to be boarded and trained because
I needed that structure. But I want to continue it.
And that's why I want to address these issues so
that he is happy and secure and confident.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Well, before you go, remember remember this. There's a big
difference between dog training and dog behavior and changing dog.
Dog training is like you train your dog to sit,
you train your dog to heal, you train your dog
to do a trick. Dog behavior is how your dog
is actually responding and behaving. And changing dog behavior takes
a lot of consistency, patients, calm behavior on your part, leadership,

(10:58):
and time. It takes time. People in America they want
to pill to cure everything. Dog behavior takes time to change,
and it takes consistency. You do the same things every
single time and every single day, so your dog knows
what to expect and you never deviate. And when you
do that, your dog is going to learn to trust
you and to be calm around you.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And if it makes you feel any better at all,
every time I come into the studio, usually Alan will
roll over and pee.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Sometimes that's right, that's right, all over myself. That's right.

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Speaker 13 (13:15):
Hi, Kathy, Yes, Hello, how are you?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Where are you calling from today?

Speaker 13 (13:18):
Elpina, Michigan. That's so maybe two hundred miles from Detroit?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Is that on the top part of the glove Exactly?
What's going on with your animal? I have doctor Debbie
right here.

Speaker 13 (13:28):
Yes, Hi, She's thirteen years old and ever since January
it's been an on and off situation. But in January
she was a high blood count, fever, infection, loss of weight, diarrhea,
and they took and so. But after that she was fine.
They put her on a maxicillin and everything. She was

(13:49):
signed for two months then and I'm trying to go
real fast. Then in April, everything's been up and down,
up and down. But the main thing her blood count elevated,
this and that the main thing. Now she's in no pain,
she lost weight, she's happy, everything, but she still has
the diarrhea. And now they're thinking she might be having

(14:12):
irritable boalse and disease, and they are trying to rule
out all these different things.

Speaker 14 (14:18):
You know.

Speaker 13 (14:19):
Now they're going to put her on steroids. We picked
her picked up steroids today and see within a week
if she's going to improve. But the main thing is
she's losing weight and the diarrhea.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Okay, and I missed what kind of dog is she?

Speaker 13 (14:31):
Driven shepherd, thirteen years old and she's never been healthy
all her life.

Speaker 15 (14:35):
Alrighty, well, I mean definitely that strategy it can be
a very sound one and a thirteen year old dog
in the causes of weight loss accompanied with vomiting and
or diarrhea, we definitely go gearing towards the gut, and
if we don't feel anything that's feeling like a lump
or a bump or a mass internally, yeah, then sometimes
we have to look at the things that are harder

(14:56):
to prove just from outward means or even from tests
such as blood work and X rays. So ultimately to
get an answer to some of these situations, you know,
we're looking at getting biopsies of the intestinal tract, and
that you know isn't really necessarily realistic in a thirteen
year old dog. So you know, there might be some
steps that we can do to try to figure out

(15:17):
a little bit more about what's going on in the
digestive track. So for me, often with a dog that's
losing weight, you know, I may do things like do
some vitamin B levels. Cobalamine and folate can be helpful
because even if we're not gonna go for something like
a biopsy, sometimes those elements need to be supplemented and
they can really benefit from vitamin B therapy along with

(15:42):
antibiotics and probiotics to try to help keep things going.
And there are definitely some doggies where when we're suspicious
that they might have an inflammatory problem like inflammatory bowel disease.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
You know that steroids are certainly.

Speaker 15 (15:55):
On the table, and sometimes we just kind of give
it a whirl, see how they do, and if we
see improvement, then you know, that's a very realistic approach
for a doggie in her age bracket, you know, with
some caveats, because anytime we use steroids, there's good and bad,
so there are some conditions that can be worsened with that.
And in an older pet, you know, I do also

(16:16):
worry about things like you know, the big sea cancer
certainly is a possibility, and it can be tough to
roll that out completely by these you know, these tests
that we do from the outside. You know, certainly, uh,
you know, I think you have nothing to lose by
trying that approach, and especially if she's continuing to lose
weight even though you had around the antibiotics and she's
still lost weight despite that, right.

Speaker 13 (16:38):
Right, well, well she did. She does gain a couple
of pounds in here, and I forgot to tell you that.
In the blood work right now, they found that she
is losing protein in her body and her glands are
producing too much cortisol mm okay, okay, so now her
lab work from this week.

Speaker 15 (16:59):
Okay, Yeah, and the protein loss definitely, if we're having
chronic diarrhea, we look for where we could lose it
in the body, and you can lose protein in the
GI tract.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
You can also lose it in the kidneys.

Speaker 15 (17:12):
And sometimes we don't have enough protein because we're anemic
or we're just having problems with our overall metabolism. So
if the diarrhea is the cause of that, yeah, yeah,
I can understand why she might have a low protein level.
And Chushian disease isn't necessarily something that I first think
of if we have a digestive problem and weight loss.

(17:32):
So the problem is with Christian disease. It's a disease
that causes high levels of cortisone in the body, but
stress causes high levels of cortizone, so disease processes.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Can cause us to have high cortizone levels.

Speaker 15 (17:44):
So it could be a little hard to really interpret
that in the face of a sick pat so.

Speaker 13 (17:49):
But but other than that, she's playful, she's happy, she's
got appetite. Except for now, the really the diarrhea, no
pain no nothing, because they check for bumb and lumps
and here no pain. Very playful, she's this and that,
except for now, the big thing is the diarrhea.

Speaker 15 (18:06):
Well, and hopefully we'll see, you know, with the stereo
if that helps. But you know, those other things and
if you haven't already used things like probiotics, and some dogs,
we will even entertain putting them on low level antibiotics
if we're suspicious that they have intestinal overgrowth in their
intestinal tract, and that can happen very commonly, you know, secondaryism,

(18:26):
intestinal diseases are sometimes all by itself.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
So it's not.

Speaker 15 (18:30):
A case where we like to use antibiotics, you know, indiscriminately,
But for some of ice pets, it really can help
treat them in their quality.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Of their life.

Speaker 13 (18:37):
I like where you're going in with the vets. She
also said, the biopsy, we'll see what the steroids are
very good. I appreciate so much you. My sister and
Elie listens to your program all the time. We just
listen to it.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, thank you so much for listening. I hope everything
turns out well there.

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Well, it's the season, the season for egrets to nest
and in Fort Worth, Texas. They're having some problems with
that because these huge birds are leaving huge droppings and
all of their lawns that were once green are now
turning brown. But these neighbors in the neighborhoods where these
birds nest have gotten together and they've come up with
a plan to get those birds the heck out of there.

(19:15):
I don't know if I'd want to live in this
neighborhood because what they're planning is going to.

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Be pretty loud.

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Speaker 17 (21:02):
This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
I'm Stacey Cohen for Animal Radio. I don't know about you,
but my dog always barks at the mailman. There's something
about the mailman that just drives my dogs crazy. In fact,
they will not even deliver mail at my house. I
had to get a po box because when I used
to have a big German Shepherd Border Collie mix, he
would always go after him. But dogs seem to go

(21:27):
postal in La more than any other US city. The
US Postal Service released its rankings of the best and
worst cities for dog attacks on mail carriers. LA recorded
sixty nine incidents last year. San Antonio and Seattle round
out the top three worst cities. Wichita, Kansas. That is
the safest city with just twenty attacks. So if you
want to be a mailman, stay away from the dogs. Wichita,

(21:49):
Kansas is where you need to go. Almost six thousand
postal workers were attacked by dogs. An old video posted
online could cause some new problems for two Florida men,
one of which is seen jumped on top of a
manatee and her calf.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Right here, look at the huge one.

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I'm gonna get Hey, there's two of them.

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Got do it?

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Let's do it?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
You got dropping copper?

Speaker 18 (22:11):
Great bill?

Speaker 11 (22:12):
Ready?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
What an idiot?

Speaker 7 (22:19):
The video was first posted on Facebook about a year ago,
but now the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is launching
an investigation. Officers have already identified the men in the
video and say they could face state and federal charges
for harassing the endangered mammals. Residents in Fort Worth, Texas
are gearing up to scare away egrets before they nest.
Last year, the egrets invaded neighborhoods, leaving behind droppings that

(22:42):
filled the air with flies and turned some lawns brown.
Because the egrets are protected by the Federal Migratory Bird
Treaty Act of nineteen eighteen, those giant birds can't be
disturbed as they nest. This year, residents, though, are taking
some preventative action and arming themselves with air horns and
to scare off the giant birds if they fly around
looking for places to build nests. Bill Campbell, who's president

(23:06):
of the Tanglewood Neighborhood Association, tells the Fort Worth Star
Telegram that people don't want the birds to get comfortable
nesting in their neighborhoods. He added that residence will probably
have to scare off the birds every year in the future.
Some neighborhoods are looking into building areas where the egrets
can nest in Peace. Wildlife Protection Group wants to work
on a freeway project in Petaluma California stop because it's

(23:28):
causing the deaths of swallows there that nest in the bridge.
The Press Democrat says, concerns around the construction at the
Highway one oh one bridge right over the Petaluma River.
The wildlife advocates say federally protected cliff swallows build mud
nests in that bridge, and Caltrans' efforts to keep those
birds away as allegedly killing the birds instead. So they're

(23:49):
asking a federal judge to stop the work and force
Caltrans to do additional environmental studies before they resume construction.
I'm Stacy Cohen. Get more Animal bricking noon that Animal
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The application has been updated. It's really cool. It's a
free download, and we head across the country to Violet.
How are you doing?

Speaker 19 (24:30):
Hi?

Speaker 18 (24:30):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (24:31):

Speaker 20 (24:32):
California?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Who's that in the background?

Speaker 20 (24:35):
Uh, that's Vegas. He came from Las Vegas and now
he's been here for daycare today. Oh okay, I have
a daycare, just playground.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
So what's going on with your animal? I have doctor
Debbie right here.

Speaker 20 (24:45):
I someone dropped off this little Shihuahua and I've raised
him now and he's got a lot of little spots
like you know. I took him to get fixed and
he says he has the allergy. Well, I mean, yeah,
they fixed them, but they didn't say what kind of
allergy because then they would have to do a skin thing.
So I started giving him some kind of flex dog

(25:08):
which is a three fatty acid and immune system I'm
seeing a little bit different, but I don't know if
that's what I could do for like doing his I
do the tea tree, but that's not working, so maybe
a different type of shampoo.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Okay, tell me a little bit more about this guy.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
How old is he?

Speaker 20 (25:25):
He's only five months old?

Speaker 15 (25:28):
Five month old little chihoy hooey? And what what do
these areas look like on his body?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Little just like.

Speaker 20 (25:36):
Spots of red and it's just pink. He's got hair
on there, so okay, I mean, I don't know if
there's a special shampoo should I do or.

Speaker 15 (25:48):
Okay, Well, the first thing I'm going to tell you
is that allergies definitely can happen in young dogs. But
the truth of the matter is that seasonal allergies inhale
and allergies are not going to be present in a
doggie this young. So things that are pollens, you know,
things that are blooming outside. It takes a well over
a year and a half exposure to those environmental allergens

(26:09):
for a pet to develop an allergy. So we can
almost kind of just ignore that whole possibility. But we
can sometimes see food allergies and young dogs. Sometimes I've
the youngest I've diagnosed it. It's been a six month
old puppy. But typically those pets will tend to be
quite itchy, you know. We have some pretty typical signs
with that.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
And its shill wow, puppy, how golly? At five months old?

Speaker 20 (26:32):
I will tell you, Yeah, I understand he has a
high maintenance.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (26:38):
The first thing I honestly would have this boy evaluated
for is to check him for mites.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Demodectic mites are what they call the red name, just
quite in common.

Speaker 20 (26:47):
When I took him in and then they fixed them,
so they said to do the corner zone.

Speaker 15 (26:52):
Well, and if it didn't help, it does help.

Speaker 20 (26:56):
Yeah, but every time I take him over to the
my mom's yards, I think he's allergic to the grass.
When he comes back, he's already again.

Speaker 15 (27:05):
Okay, Well, I'm just telling you going with the odds
in a young pup of his age. Even if we
don't see mites on the first sampling, sometimes it does
take multiple samplings, so I would just want to make
sure we exhaust that. And now this is something you
can't do just by looking. They actually have to take
some skin samples. They have to do that skin scraping
as we call it. So if that's been done, then

(27:26):
I'll feel more comfortable about that. But you know, okay,
so see say that test is negative for your little guy. Yes,
they are definitely going to be some things we're going
to look at doing. And we might start with some
of those colloidal oatmeal shampoos which can be very soothing
for the skin. And then I would address going into
a hypoallergenic diet. I'm not really familiar with some of

(27:48):
the brand that you mentioned, yeah, but to get into it. Yeah,
and you know, grain isn't always the big problem. It's
kind of a big fat in the human world with nutrition.
But actually some reason search studies actually have shown that
some of the most common allergens in foods for dogs
are things like beef, which is over thirty percent of
the most common allergens and dogs. Dairy and wheat are

(28:10):
followed after that, and actually, you know, corn is pretty.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Low on the list.

Speaker 15 (28:14):
It's lower down so things when we talk about grains, yeah,
it could be a grain problem, but in many cases
it could be a chicken of beef all.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Those other ingredients.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 15 (28:24):
Yeah, So you would I'd say, pick up that phone,
talk to that that and say what food would you recommend?
In my office, if I'm treating a food allergy, I
like to go to something in a young dog, like
a novel protein diet. Maybe it's going to be something
that's just got two ingredients. It's going to have a
carbohydrate and it's going to have a protein. My own
dog is on a rabbit based diet. Some dogs thrive

(28:46):
really well on a.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Fish based diet.

Speaker 15 (28:48):
And the thing I'll tell you is with with hyperaalogenic diets,
you know, it's a little bit trickier than just looking
on the label and saying is this food have that
ingredient or not, because for hyperalogenic diets, the ideal way
to do this is to manage it with very limited
ingredients and to make sure that we're using things that
are new and novel to the pet's experiences. So you know, I, personally,

(29:12):
as a veterinarian, I like to have some recommendations that
I would throw your way. So chat with that veterinarian
and make sure that we didn't have mites, and then
we can talk about a little bit more about these diets.
And fatty acids are great. I like that you mentioned
the diet with fatty acids, but you know I prefer
to bring them in in a supplement form.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
So bring it in in a pill, bring it in
in a liquid.

Speaker 15 (29:33):
Add that in so that we can control the dose
in the amount, and we know that it's going to
be beneficial for your low guy.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Violet. I commend you.

Speaker 15 (29:40):
You've got your hands full with that whole crew of
doggy daycare, and bless that little guy's heart, and I'm
sure you're going to get him on the mend here soon.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
This is doctor Debbie. If you have a question for
the Dream Team, give us a call.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
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Speaker 19 (30:08):
Hey it's Vinnie Penn. You're party animal coming at you
on Animal Radio. I want to talk to you about
recently down at the local pet store and I saw
the signs. A guy came in looking for a sign
to convey to people visiting his house that he had
a large dog. He want He didn't want beware of dog.

(30:28):
He wanted something that said along the lines to beware
of large dog. And he was surprised that he couldn't
find it. Maybe they exist, you know, maybe they don't.
And of course the person helping him at the store,
I don't have any clue if they existed or not.
For him, he was just I overheard him saying, you know,
my dog's a sweetheart, but he's a large dog. And

(30:48):
I would just want people stopping by to know you
maybe terrified as this huge dog comes lumbering at you,
but basically you're just going to get a bath in
spit and a whole lot of love. And he was
surprised that these signs didn't exist, or that he couldn't
find one. At this story, whatever, my thought is, if
they don't exist. I mean, let's run the gamut. Beware

(31:12):
of leg humping dog. Beware of dog who will like
the taste of your blood. Beware of wife who's going
to scare the hell out of you as she reprimands
the dog for running towards you and or barking.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
There's a variety of signs to be made.

Speaker 19 (31:33):
This is yet again your party animal coming at you
and missing an opportunity to patent something, to copyright something.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
And make money.

Speaker 19 (31:42):
Beware of dog that will eat your pocketbook and belch
loudly afterwards. Beware of dog that will accidentally urinate on
you in parentheses, maybe not accidentally, Vinnie Penn Party Animal,
Animal Radio.

Speaker 17 (32:02):
I would love to go on vacation, but I don't
want to leave our Charlie behind.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I agree.

Speaker 21 (32:07):
I heard that the magazine Fido Friendly lists places where
you can stay with your pet. They also offer reviews,
so you have an idea about pet policy, to include
any restrictions, fees, and what pedimenities to expect.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
That's dare I say, awesome, what are we waiting for?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I'm way ahead of you.

Speaker 21 (32:23):
I just logged onto fido friendly dot com and I
found a four Star Resort, Hilton Santa Fe Resort and
Spa at Buffalo Thunder in New Mexico.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Charlie agrees, when do we leave?

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Speaker 4 (32:44):
This is Animal Radio. Understand these fat pet people. I mean,
it's not like the dog and the cat go to
the supermarket.

Speaker 14 (32:50):
And buy stuff, especially fat docs.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I mean that's that's not an attractive looking fat dog. No, no,
on a you know a bass at hound. That would
be an attracted looking fat dog too.

Speaker 14 (33:03):
Bulldog, bulldogs, I've seen big, but the basst I mean
they just dragged the thing along the floor and then
you get a little savon into something.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Judy's always giving them treats.

Speaker 14 (33:13):
Well, of course it's easy around here. We get all
sponsored stuff. Yeah, I mean it's it's hard.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Note he's saying that while I'm on the phone that's
not true.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
It tells me it's no laughing matter, and then he
starts laughing. I mean, if you got a fat pet,
it's because you're feeding your pet too much. It's pretty simple.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Okay, let's go to this.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Phone co Come on, I hate Tim. Hello, how you
doing today?

Speaker 12 (33:33):
Doing good?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Where are you calling from?

Speaker 12 (33:36):
Beat Florida?

Speaker 22 (33:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I bet it's beautiful there today, it is nice and hot. Well,
I understand you have dog issues.

Speaker 12 (33:42):
Well yeah, they're great though dogs. We have two caring terriers.
It's a new color day. They're wheat colored tearing terriers.
His sister's out of the same letter. And when my
wife takes them at the wall, they've just turned four
years old. But when she takes them at the walk,
and they've pretty much always done it is it's like
sled dogs, you know. They they walk to you, you

(34:03):
don't walk to them. And she don't want to put
a choker chaine on them. She's afraid just gonna hurt them.
And we're trying to figure out, you know, other than
you know, if that's what we need to do, or
if we you know, if there's something else.

Speaker 22 (34:15):
We can do.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Tim, you're a nice guy, your wife, you're wonderful people.
You're the kind of people that I would love to
live next door to because I can just tell your
sweet people and you know, sweetness does not equate with
being a good dog parent. Sweetness is something you save
for last. And so what you've got now is you
got those retractable leashes on the dog. Don't you wear it?

Speaker 12 (34:36):
You know you can get out the regular the regular
nylon loop. They're not retractable. It's just like a five
foot or six foot leash.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
All right, So how much time do you have have
for the dogs? Yeah, to work with your dog?

Speaker 12 (34:49):
Well, we can. We can work with them in the
mornings or in the afternoon or in the evenings. You know,
we pretty I work for myself and she does too.
We have our own business and the week it's beautiful.
We can much, you know, do whatever we want to do.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
So, well, what technique do you want? Do you want
the simple technique because there is none, or do you
want to do you want to Firstly, the choker chain
will not hurt your dog. It's the way you use
the choker chain that can hurt your dog. Basically, a
choker chain is just something to give your dog a
little friendly reminder that he's not acting the way you want.
It's the way you use it. So you're not gonna

(35:22):
hurt your dog by putting a choker chain on your dog,
so that that's a really important thing. You've got to
have some sort of a collar on your dog that
you can use to give your dog a correction. The
easiest technique i'm gonna give you for working with your dog.
And believe me, none of them work overnight. You've got
to be patient. Comment all right, You're gonna have to
work with one dog at a time, though you don't
want to work with them both, or your wife has

(35:44):
to take one, you take the other one, okay, And
the preparation starts before you leave the house. So before
you leave the house and you're getting ready to take
your dog for walk, there's certain things you do that
get them immediately excited. Maybe you pick the leash up
and he sees that, he gets really excited by it, right, yeah, okay,
what happens, all right, So what you're gonna do now
is you're gonna pick the leash up, but you're not

(36:04):
gonna take him out, and you're gonna do that a lot.
You're just gonna pick the leash up and walk around
the house with so he never knows when he's going out.
That's the first thing you're gonna do. The second thing
you're gonna do is when you leave the house, you
wait till the dog is calm. You just sit there.
You stand there with the dog at your side. You
stand there, you don't move. As soon as he's calm,
you make a move towards the door. If he gets excited,

(36:24):
you stop. You need to do a lot of starting
and stopping. And once you get him outside, you start walking.
As soon as he starts pulling, you just stop. You
just stop walking and stand there. Now, it's important that
you know you don't talk to him. You and your
wife do not talk to the dog. Just stand there.
As soon as he calms, you start walking again. As
soon as he starts pulling, you stop again. And the

(36:46):
whole time, the leash is glued to your body like
you're a tree stump. You've got to glued to your
side or to your chest, and you're training your dog
to walk on your side, never in front of you.
So if he starts walking in front of you and pulling,
you just stop, stand there and you don't move for
as long as it takes for him to mellow out.
Does any of that make sense to you, buddy, It's
gonna take a long time. Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna take.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
Off those harnesses. It's supposed to stop him from pulling,
you know, when they pull and all that, but I
don't think those haven't work.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
So tim nothing stops a dog from pulling. But you
what people don't understand is like, let's say you take
your dog out, you train your dog for fifteen minutes,
Well what are you doing the other twenty three hours
and forty five minutes a day. You're teaching your dog
stuff without him even knowing it, without you even knowing it.
You're teaching your dog all kinds of things. And what
you've got to do is you've got to be in charge.

(37:35):
You've got to act like a leader. You've got to
stop feeling sorry for your dog and worrying about him,
and you know, you've got to treat him like a dog.
And you've got to be the leader that says, hey,
I don't like this behavior, cut it out. And the
way you do that is with your body, not with
your words. The way you do that is when your
dog starts pulling on a leash, you just stop walking.
You just stop and you wait for him to stop

(37:56):
pulling before That's what you gotta do, buddy. Yeah, that's
what you gotta do.

Speaker 12 (38:00):
The the other question was when the doorbell. They're by
no means are they visus. They've never even offered or
trying to buy anyone. They really won't even lick you.
But when somebody rings the doorbell, they go crazy. Mark, Yeah,
of course they get inside. They're all excited. They don't,
you know, jump in here and do nothing like that.
It's just that doorbell is like a boxer. I guess
you bring them, you know, when he's ready to balk.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
And why do you think your dogs go barking crazy?

Speaker 12 (38:25):
I don't know right?

Speaker 4 (38:27):
The correct answer, Tim, The correct answer is yes, it
does excite them. But why do they go crazy, Tim,
Because you let them go crazy. You see, you give
them the space they're they're just being territorial. They're protecting
their territory and and and the doorbell keys them up
and it gets them excited. Another thing to understand is
if you take them on long walks, it'll mellow them out.

(38:48):
They probably won't go as crazy. They're just looking for
ways to stimulate themselves too. But you've got to teach
them that the space in front of the door is yours,
and you do that by practice with a buddy. You
have a buddy out, you tell him to ring the doorbell.
As soon as he goes to ring the doorbell and
the dog makes his move to go to the door,
you stand in front and hurt him away with your
body and teach him that's your space. And then you

(39:09):
teach him to lay on his rug and be quiet.
And then you do it over and over and over
and over again with your body, with your actions, not
with your words. When he starts doing what you want,
you tell him, good dog and give him a treat.
It takes a long time to do these things though,
tim a long time repetition. You and your wife have
to do the exact same thing over and over and
over and over again.

Speaker 12 (39:29):
Being four years old, we can still teach him to
do that right.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Absolutely, you can teach them. There's no such thing as
not being able to teach an old dog new tricks.

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Speaker 2 (40:12):
Eighty celebrating the connection with our pets.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
This is Animal Radio, featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor
Debbie White, dog trainer Alan Cable, groomer Joey Vellani, communicator
Joy Turner, and here are your hosts, pal A Brooms
and Judy Francis.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
This hour, we're going to talk to a lady who's
rescued a cat from McDonald's. Apparently was hanging out and
eating food all day long and it didn't meet the
nutritional requirements of a cat.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Also, we're gonna I guess Obi's out. We're not gonna
be talking to Obi.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
No, we didn't get Obi this week, okay.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
But maybe next week we're finding I guess there's some
legal custody battles going on. More details about that seventy
seven pound docks in on the way. Let's see, we're
going to line four and the line five. Okay, hold
a second, Stacy, what are you doing?

Speaker 7 (41:01):
I don't know. Snakes are not something that really freaked
me out. Some people are really freaked out by snakes.
They just see one and they start screaming. There's this
guy in Florida who got out of his car there
was a one hundred and twenty eight pound snake. Now,
this is not a worm, this is this is a snake.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
It's a python.

Speaker 7 (41:16):
Wow, he got out and wrestled with it and it
wrapped around his leg. I mean, he was just driving
by and saw it. I'll tell you what happened coming
up on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Wow, that's a that's a big snake. Doctor Debbie, you
deal with snakes down there at the clinic. I know
you stay away from Trigula's.

Speaker 23 (41:33):
You know.

Speaker 15 (41:33):
I let my associates deal with most of the snakes,
and definitely one hundred and twenty eight pound snake I
certainly won't be seeing.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
No, I have a question.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I have a question. Yes, okay, the guy's riding by
in his car and he sees the snake. Why does
he have to get out and bother the snake?

Speaker 23 (41:48):
I mean?

Speaker 4 (41:49):
And then of course the story sounds like, oh, this
guy's fighting for his life. The snake attacked him. You know,
the snake's minding his own business, going about his very
snake way, and Rudolph gets out of his car and
has to mess with them, and of course he's probably
trying to defend himself and protect themselves, and all of
a sudden, the human is the victim.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Well, I think it is.

Speaker 11 (42:07):
I think this is in Florida where they're having the
problem with all the snakes and they have bounty on
their heads.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Problem.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
These are dangerous.

Speaker 15 (42:13):
I mean, these will take your dog down, man, I
mean you know, they'll take small children, wildlife.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
So they are in these of species one.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Hundred and twenty eight pounds. I think it already probably
took a dog or two down, a small child.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Ye, let's see, Jacob, how are you doing.

Speaker 18 (42:28):
I'm doing good in you very well.

Speaker 2 (42:29):

Speaker 18 (42:31):
Well, I'm a truck driving here in Wyoming.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh, lovely Wyoming. I feel for you. Man, slot wind
o wind and lots of flat I imagine.

Speaker 13 (42:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
So what's going on with your dog or cat or iguana?

Speaker 23 (42:45):
What is it?

Speaker 18 (42:45):
Well, we have my wife and I we have a
ten year old mood Fox carrier and you know she's
been a very active athletic dog up until I'd say
a month and a half ago. She is developed a
honking type cough and uh, you know the toughest part

(43:06):
right now is throughout the night she'll go through these spells.
You know, during the day. Uh, my wife is wondering,
you know, why why is she sleeping? Well, she's not
getting sleep at night right and you know from from
my research, my wife and then we have gone to
the vet, there's a high suspicion that it's collapsing trachea.

Speaker 15 (43:31):
Is she having any other symptoms at all as far
as any weight loss and their problems?

Speaker 17 (43:37):
Is she eating?

Speaker 18 (43:38):
Okay, she's still eating. She's seems to be a little
more picky now, surprising because she would she would think
golf her food so fast that she would let out
a burp any drunk.

Speaker 15 (43:49):
With She likes her food and doesn't mind the unladylike
behaviors there. So she's coughing, and so do you feel
that in general she's besides this cough at night that
she seems to have, you know, some slowing down not eating.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Well, did you perceive that pretty much?

Speaker 13 (44:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (44:08):
You know, her favorite thing in the world is like
a handball, a blue ball, and we had to put
it away because as soon as she gets, you know, excited,
she'll start she'll start hacking.

Speaker 15 (44:20):
Okay, all right, so tell me what what has been
done for her so far and is there anything you're
pursuing right now.

Speaker 18 (44:27):
Well, here's here's the tough part. My wife did, you know,
take take the dog to the vet, probably about a
month ago, and so I went back to the vet
to kind of beg them to prescribe a medication for
her cough. What they're looking at is, of course, was
a blood panel for about one hundred and fifty bucks,

(44:50):
and then when I went back, they said, well, we
definitely would have to do X rays to confirm. So
that's another visit plus the x rays. That's one hundred
and ninety dollars. And from what I gather, there is
no cure. There's only.

Speaker 15 (45:06):
Okay, I'm going to back you up here, Jacob, because
we don't have a diagnosis yet. And that's part of
my concern is prescribing something for what we don't really
know what condition is going on. And the reason I'm
kind of backpedaling here is because if we're gonna presume
that a dog has something like genetic or something anatomical,

(45:26):
say like a collapsing trachea. That kind of problem tends
to be present throughout their lifetime, and it doesn't unless
we're in extreme situations, it doesn't really cause them a
decrease in equality of life. So for me, if I
am presented with a pet that is coughing and especially
can't make it through the night, and maybe we're off
on food a little bit, and this kind of behavior

(45:48):
hasn't been present throughout their lifetime, it really warrants looking into.
So I would concur with your veterinarian that I think
those tests are very sound things to do to get
us a better feel what we're up against. Because through
when a cough's a pressing at her, if she's having
some kind of heart problems developing, could be a very
detrimental or even fatal thing.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
So we want to make sure we're.

Speaker 15 (46:08):
Treating the right thing and giving you the right pills.
So definitely, you know these type of tests, there are
fees with them, and those aren't terribly off, you know,
I'd say in the area that I practice, you know,
you're still you know, maybe we're probably like twenty bucks
less on some of those things than what you had mentioned,
but still those are those are pretty valid fees there.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
So if you need to pick and go ahead.

Speaker 18 (46:31):
If they were to, let's say, run a blood panel
and then they found the specifics, it's almost like a
human being. They're looking at specifics on the chemical on
let's say a heart problem with they just you know,
pretty much rule out the trachey and say, well, you
unfortunately her ticker is right.

Speaker 15 (46:51):
So yeah, and you know that's it depends on how
we want to approach it and how much suspicion the
veterinarian has. Now there's times when I'm listening to a
dog's heart and I'll say, you know, they're something really
wacky going on right here, And it can kind of
help me to encourage a pet owner that I have
a strong index of a suspicion that there's something we're
going to find. So for me, sometimes I'll pick an

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X ray first over blood work. Sometimes I think it's
prudent to do both of those at the same times.
And I probably can't say specifically in your pet situation
what the case may be, but I would definitely think
that you know, what you're describing sounds like we do
need to get some kind of diagnostics to decide that
and to see are we going to be going down
the respiratory pathway or are we looking at more of

(47:31):
a heart based problem. And because the medicines are different,
and you know, you know, even if you're not looking
at doing a lot of really crazy tests, those are
two basic things that I would say are going to
help your veterinarian and determine what is the best course
of action to go.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 18 (47:47):
There's a little yeah, oh yeah, definitely, there's a you know, unfortunately,
there's a little hesitancy based on kind of treatments in
the past of stupid allergies, you know. And one years
she took a shot that really worked excellent throughout the summer,
and then the following year it was like the same
supposed shot lasted maybe a few days. And then there

(48:13):
was a horrific incident. My brother had a purebred lab
that I guess she wasn't feeling well, but they took
her to the vet. It was a different vet, and
they said, you know, everything looks great, and the next
day the dog dropped dead.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Oh goodness, well, Jacob.

Speaker 15 (48:27):
Sometimes it's a matter of also just kind of if
you're not feeling that relationship with the veterinarian. Definitely I
admire and I definitely think it's every pet owner's right
to seek.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
A second opinion.

Speaker 15 (48:38):
So you might just be time to maybe pick up
the phone, check around and if you're not feeling it
with your regular vet, you know, see if someone else
has a different opinion. But I can tell you my
opinion is that I think that what the recommending certainly
sounds good, and it sounds like something you know, we
need at least embrace some some testing in some format.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
So I hope, I hope your baby does okay with that.

Speaker 15 (48:57):
And there's definitely things we can try if we do
have to say a clab seeing trachyo or some other.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Chronic respiratory problem.

Speaker 15 (49:02):
There's cough suppressed and sometimes there's branquo dilators that help
to open the airways, and you know, even sometimes antibiotics
are indicated. So there's a lot of things we might
be able to do. You know, I say, we just
need to take that first step and get your baby back.

Speaker 18 (49:16):
To the VET.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Thanks for your call, Jacob. To my left doctor Debbie
answering your vet medical questions. To my right dog trainer
Alan Cable, dog father Joey Volani, and animal communicator Joey Turner.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Doctor Debbie, you're like the best vet ever.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Oh thank you. Michael is wagging right now.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
You know, I got a theory, you know, I got
a theory that in life, eighty percent of people are
quacks at what they do, twenty percent are great at it,
and out of the twenty percent, ten percent are good
people in care. And you're one of those ten percent.
And you're right. People need to seek that out because
whenever money comes into something, you know, there's a temptation,
you know, not the care. You've really got to go

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with your gut. You've got to make sure the person
really cares about animals as well as trying to make
a good living.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Joey Ice, this morning, when you came in, the first
thing you did was opened Ladybug's mouth, her little craw
and you were using some kind of wipe in her
mouth for her gums.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Was that the John Paul stuff?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (50:09):
John Paul Pett now makes dental wipes. These things are
really easy and they're really cool to use because it's
it's like using a pop up you know, like those
things that you that you wipe your skin with when
when you go away, like those wet wipes, Well it's
basically just it's basically looks just like that, but instead
it has you know, the formula on it that actually

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removes the build up of plaque and tarter on the teeth.
So what you'll do is you'll go in there with
your finger and wrap this around and wipe the teeth.
Just make sure that your dog doesn't bite, because you
don't want to come out with with a bit finger
as well. Go in there wipe the gums. They don't
seem to mind that. I actually use this on my
dogs all the time, and it's a real easy way.
It's easier in the jail as it's easier in the

(50:50):
sprays because you just get right in there, you wipe
it off and it looks at check this out. You
can look at look at the residude and it actually
comes off on it smell. And that's with Allen's teeth.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
All of Paul Mitchell's stuff tested on humans first, That's
what it says right here on the front label of
the and then you also have the witness this the
Awa Puoci shampoo.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
And I've been talking about this. We just like to
say Awa Puuci set an herb.

Speaker 14 (51:16):
Or whatever it is, it works great. I've used I
use it on my pets. They feel great, they smell great,
and you know what, I'm not embarrassed to say I
used it on myself last night with the with the
Ala Puci conditioner. No you can, you absolutely can.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Oh.

Speaker 14 (51:32):
I don't know if you can, but I've used it.
My hair feels great. If you want, I'll use it
on ladybug Lata and yeah, you can check her out.
So this is going to keep your pet thumb, you know,
skin from getting dry joey.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
With all the products that you use twenty four to seven,
I mean there's there's billions of things. There's clippers, there's shampoos,
there's mosquito repellents. When do you have time to ignore
your wife.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Let's go ahead and give away some of this Gilen
Paul pet right now, the tooth and gum wipes, as
well as the Awa Pooci shampoo, the waterless pham shampoo,
and the oatmeal shampoo.

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Oh let's see the voice is in my head and
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let's go to Nick. Hey, Nick, how are you doing?

Speaker 9 (53:31):
How are you doing, sir? Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (53:32):

Speaker 23 (53:34):
Call from Jersey Jersey?

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Jay Zy?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
You're what's going on?

Speaker 9 (53:38):
All right? I got Himntor Schnauzer and he's three years old.
We just rescued him from shelter. We're having issues taking
him for a walk. Every time we go to take
them for a walk, he starts getting uh, I guess
you say, overly excited, starts screeching and almost like almost
like he's yelling you can't take him any probably about
a quarter mile away from the house, not even and

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then all the dogs start barking in the neighborhood and
just start throwing attention. And as soon as we turn
around and start going home, he stopped. So we're just
curious on how to fix it and what we can
do to help him.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Well, I'm glad you called Nick. It's great to talk
to you, buddy. And I can tell you this. I
would guess if I were with you observing you, you're
probably very tense and anxious when you take your dog
for a walk until you start turning around to go home,
and then you probably are totally mellowed out and your
calm or yourself. Is that true?

Speaker 9 (54:34):
I guess you consider that, But you know I've also
you know, I understand that whole. You know, I got
to be calm for him to be calm. So I
have tried that whole, you know, the whole technique. It
just doesn't seem to work.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
It's not a technique, buddy, it's a way of life.
And again, like I was talking to another lady, people
try things, they say, oh it's not working, and they
give up. But trying something and being something are two
different things. It's not that you're trying to be calm,
and it's not that you're acting calm. It's that you
are calm twenty four to seven inside your mind, your heart,

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your soul, your body. And understand that your dog is
very insecure and to give a dog like that confidence,
you have to be confident, and you have to do
it forever, and it takes time. It's not the kind
of thing where you're going to walk that dog and
that dog is going to be cured after one time.
You got to take baby steps. It's just like teaching
a baby to ride a kid to ride a bike.

(55:28):
You know, you just don't shove a kid on a
bike and push him out into the middle of the street.

Speaker 11 (55:32):
Right.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
You hold out, you put the training wheels on, you
hold the seat, you give your child pep talks. It's
a process, and to give a dog like that confidence
as a process. So what you might try doing is,
instead of taking your dog for a long walk, you
start with little, tiny walks. You walk your dog in
your backyard until he's really comfortable, and then you take
your dog for a walk out in front of the

(55:54):
house until he's really comfortable and calm and secure and confident.
You don't talk to him, you just walk him, you
lead him, and then you go further and further from
the house over time. And then when you notice your
dogs starting to get tense, Like let's say you start
and everything's going well and you're about one hundred yards
from the house and your dog starts to get agitated.
You turn around and go home because you notice your

(56:16):
dog's agitated. You take baby steps and you tell your dog,
good boy, when he's calm and n this is gonna
take time, buddy, this is gonna take your okay. So
it's baby steps, it's you believing inside your heart's soul
and mind that you're calm and not acting calm and

(56:36):
checking yourself constantly. Is my arm relaxed? Am I feeling calm?
Am I standing erect? Am I looking forward? Am I
acting like a leader? From my dog? Does my dog
feel like I'll protect him? Am? I? There for him?
And it's not talking. The less talking the better. Okay,
when you're walking your dog, do not talk to him.

Speaker 9 (56:54):
Just walk as far as the leash goes long, LEAs
short right.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
It's interesting you want your dog to be right along
your side. If he's in front of you, you are
not the leader. He is the leader. So if your
dog is leading you, you stop walking immediately. You just
stand there and you reel him back in. You want
him on your left side, right at your knee, right
on your side, never in front. That's what teaches a dog.
You're in charge, you're the leader. When you leave your house,

(57:22):
you leave the house first. The dog is never in front.
When you come home, you enter the house first. Your
dog is never in front. When your dog comes into
a room, it's because you've invited him into the room.
Start thinking about all the things you do every day
that tell your dog either I'm a leader or I'm
a follower. Dogs like toys and food and all that stuff.

(57:45):
You're in charge of everything. It's all you. You own
it all. And a lot of people think that's mean,
but that's dog world, that's dog communication. That's how dogs
act and think. They don't want to be in charge.
And if a dog has control of the time or
food or anything like that, at that moment, you are
not his leader. He is your leader.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Got you, Okay, thank you, thanks for listening.

Speaker 9 (58:06):
Have a good day.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I will. I will have a good day.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Doctor w I have I have done extensive research, you know,
studying and doing all kinds of different what do you
call him, seminars and you know on Yeah, I've been
in seclusion. I've been in seclusion basically with the monks,
trying to figure this thing out. I've got two things
for you. One of them I thought would be very

(58:30):
interesting for you. The other one I think will get
you extremely stoked. First of all, did you guys know
that the outdoor temperature can be estimated within several degrees
by timing the chirps of a cricket. I know that, doctor,
I did not know that I like that.

Speaker 22 (58:45):
That is.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Cool. Even I knew that you count the number of
chirps in a fifteen second period, then you add thirty
seven and it works with fahrenheit, but only when it's warm.
That only works when it's warm. Okay, now here's my
other one, Devick. This is gonna get you so excited,
doctor Debbie. Did you know that there is a certain
living thing that that remains pregnant for its whole life?

Speaker 5 (59:08):
A certain living thing that remains pregnant. First of all,
this is one of those brain teaser ones.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
This this is absolutely the truth of a.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Woman that has twenty nine kids.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Some female some female cockerroaches mate once and they're pregnant
for the rest of their lives. Wow, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Okay that that trump's the cricket.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
That's trum.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
It really does, See, doctor Devik, I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
See I'm gonna have a great week. Thank you for
the entertainment.

Speaker 15 (59:37):
I appreciate it, Alan, And yes, maybe books get me
excited and I don't really know it.

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Join us, Join us next time for will this get
doctor Debbie excited?

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Speaker 7 (01:01:23):
I'm Stacey Cohen four Animal Radio. A man in Miami
is responsible for capturing and killing the largest Burmese python
ever recorded in Florida. According to the Florida Fish and
Wildlife Conservation Commission, this record breaking serpent was a one
hundred and twenty eight pound female measured eighteen feet eight
inches in length. Now that shattered the previous record of

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seventeen feet seven inches. Apparently, Miami resident Jason Leon was
driving in a rural area of Miami Dade County when
he and a passenger spotted this giant reptile on the
roadside brush. Well, he grabbed the snake by the head
and he began pulling it out of the brush. First
of all, well, what would ever possess somebody to get
out of the car and do this, That's the real

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question here. That's when this python began wrapping itself around
his leg. After he got some help from his buddies,
Leon killed the snake with a knife. Kristen Summers of
the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the Commission
is grateful to Leon for safely removing the large snake
and then reporting it to authorities. He's likely to have
his leg. A designer in Seattle's come up with an

(01:02:26):
easy way to transform an average house cat into king
of the jungle, the lion hat. Umiko Landers told metro
dot UK that the idea for the feline headpiece came
from her sewing group. While making something to fit the
cats and dogs theme that week, Landers came up with
the so called hat that allows the cat to sport

(01:02:46):
a lion's man. The product even comes in multiple colors,
including golden brown, black, gray, ivory, and husky. Landers sells
the hats online through Etsy and says she never would
have expected it to be getting so many orders from
all over the world.

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Association has declared that pets, especially dogs, guess what they're
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and Levine, director of Baylor University's Cardiatric Care Unit, was
quoted in a press release from the AHA, saying pet ownership,
particularly dog ownership, is probably associated with the decreased risk
of heart disease. He said that owning a dog may

(01:03:25):
help reduce cardiovascular risk because dogs bug their owners into
taking them for walks on a regular basis, and dog
owners were, according to the AHA study, fifty four percent
more likely than non dog owners to get a suggested
amount of exercise. So good news, no doubt. Get out
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Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Please doctor pat you're listening to Animal Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Here's Alan Judy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
And underlying theme to today's show is the obese factor.
We're talking about a lot of animals that have well
they're a little bit overweight. And here in the studio,
and I'm sure doctor Debbie will agree that, well, three
of the four animals the probably weigh just a little
too much. So we're guilty of this too, but these

(01:04:22):
are animals that are way overweight. In fact, we were
supposed to talk to the lady who has ob who
is the docson who weighed seventy seven pounds and apparently
she's in a custody battle with that dog now that
it's a famous dog, and you are unable to get
a hold of her, maybe because of the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
We don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Still trying to reach her, so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
We'll find out more in just a couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I also mentioned a couple of weeks ago about this
cat that was hanging out at McDonald's and yeah, I know,
just horrible eating all the food there, living on the
diet of McDonald's for over a year until someone came
along and realized this cat just doesn't look good. That
McDonald's is not doing this cat any good. And that

(01:05:07):
person I believe is bridgid Ball. Hey, Bridget, how are
you doing.

Speaker 22 (01:05:10):
Hi, I'm doing I'm doing very well. How are you
talking to you today?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Where are you?

Speaker 22 (01:05:16):
I'm on a remote sheep and beef farm in New Zealand.
I'm talking to you, talking to you to you from
my home today. But I worked from the for the
Wycato SPCA, and it was my colleague Jessica Watson who
rescued Frankie from his life of terrible fast food habits.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
So what Frankie just hung out on a McDonald's and
people would feed Frankie.

Speaker 22 (01:05:41):
Frankie was astray. He was abandoned when his owners left
their apartment block, and he basically took up residents in
the at the drive through, and he learned that people
would talk him scraps And yes, he lived at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
What was his favorite McDonald's item?

Speaker 23 (01:06:04):
Do you know?

Speaker 22 (01:06:04):
Well, he had two he liked. He liked the burger patties,
the meat in size. People would order one for themselves
the next to one one for Frankie. And the little
chicken nuggets. I don't know do you have them in America?
You know they kind of bite size, you could imagine
you could toss onto the cat, snap it up. I

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think those were his two favorites. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Was he overweight when we brought it in?

Speaker 12 (01:06:31):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Was he overweight?

Speaker 12 (01:06:32):
No, he was not.

Speaker 22 (01:06:33):
Overweight when we brought him in. My colleagues, he was so.
I worked for the White Cat on SPCA. We're a
charitable organization in New Zealand that an animal welfare organization
and we rescue, amongst other things, we rescue and rehome
stray animals and we've been keeping an eye on Frankie

(01:06:55):
for a year or so. But he was healthy, you know,
he was a healthy animal, and we don't have capacity
to take in healthy strays off the street. So it
was not until we noticed that his condition was deteriorating
that we thought that actually we have to act. So
he was not overweight, no, but his fur became matted,

(01:07:18):
his eyelids, his third eyelids were up, and his face
had become very slow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
But this is actually the same thing that's happened to
Alan Cable here and.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I noticed actually have them pumped in directly.

Speaker 15 (01:07:37):
And this is this is the proof that you don't
necessarily have to look at a pat and see a
fat pad to know that they're not eating right.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
So nutritional deficiencies come in all sorts of ways. How
sad for Frankie. How is he doing?

Speaker 22 (01:07:50):
He's doing very well. I understand he's doing extremely well.
We did find him a new home. It was quite
a process. There was a lot of demand for this cat,
you know, because he's got quite a story behind him.
He's doing well, he's eating well.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Do they have to feed the McDonald's No.

Speaker 22 (01:08:09):
I understand they're no longer feeding in McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But he's taken the regular cat food.

Speaker 22 (01:08:15):
Now, yes he has. You will have seen in the
in the news that it took a while when Jessica
Watson took him home. She fostered this this who was
then a very unhealthy animal, took him home and produced
from Hill's Science diet, which is what we used the

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animals at the SPCA. He's, you know, thought, what is this?
You know, can I have frides with that?

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:08:42):
Oh, he wasn't interested. So it took him a while
and eventually, you know, he got to like the isn't
it the regular cat food? And he's he's doing much
better for it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Now how old would you?

Speaker 22 (01:08:56):
I don't know, Actually he's an adult.

Speaker 19 (01:09:01):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
I gotta I gotta ask. What is the takeaway lesson
from this?

Speaker 22 (01:09:06):
Okay? I would say the takeaway lessons for us as
an animal welfare organization is that we have a problem
with stray cats in this country, in our city in
New Zealand, because people are not desexing their animals, you know,
so they had too many cats, they can't afford to

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feed them, they can't afford to look after them, and
they throw them out on the streets. So we end
up the SPCA, We end up as a sort of
ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, taking in sick, stray,
malmarished animals for whatever reason, when people people should be
taking responsibility for the welfare of their animals and getting

(01:09:49):
them desexed.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Yeah, we talked to what some nutcase four weeks ago,
five weeks ago, maybe a little over a month ago,
or one of your.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Politicians I believe, who's trying to do to.

Speaker 22 (01:10:02):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
The guy who wants to get rid of all the cats.

Speaker 22 (01:10:06):
Oh, you spoke to Gareth Morgan. He's a leading businessman
and entrepreneur and philanthropist.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, big cat problem there in New Zealand, I guess
we have.

Speaker 22 (01:10:17):
Yes, we do have a big problem with stray and
feral cats in New Zealand And. And that's why the
work that the SBCA is doing, that my colleagues are
doing to reduce cat numbers, basically by we educate the
public on the importance of having having their animalsy sex.
When I say reduce cat numbers, I'm a cat lover.

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Cats will make wonderful pets and people love their cats.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
We love them too, exactly.

Speaker 22 (01:10:45):
The problem is with strays. Yes, we do have a
big stray cat problem. And we're working with people to
educate on the importance of the sex thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
You're doing good work and I appreciate you spending time
with us. It's going to be early there. What time
is it?

Speaker 22 (01:10:58):
It is the minutes pass from the Sunday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for spending.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Time with us and telling us my pleasure.

Speaker 22 (01:11:07):
That's my absolute pleasure. And thanks for thanks for speaking
about our great work. If we know in New Zealander,
Americans are also great philanthropists and generous people, so give
give out the website of our fundraising appeal to support
the work of the Wykato SPCA, and as a website,

(01:11:29):
people can go to dub dub dub dot Ykato SPCA
slash pet Project and donate to our work and find
out a little bit more about what we do. Thank
you for your time today.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
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bad person. I don't shut your trap.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
He's saying, Okay, I gotta tell you, man, I'm off
balance because I just spent the night with nine ten
twelve year olds and my brain is scrambled.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
And he means that in a good way. He's like,
what are you a camp leader or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
No, my dang daughter had her birthday party over here,
and she's like, oh, Dad, don't worry. Girls aren't crazy
like boys. And I mean two thirty in the morning
and they're still hooping and hollering up there, and it's like,
oh my gosh, they're never going to go to bed.
They're insane. They're insane.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I'm so glad you're here. Alan, Cable ladies and gentlemen, Hey, marge,
how are you good? Where are you calling for today?

Speaker 19 (01:14:01):
Well?

Speaker 23 (01:14:01):
Right now, I'm in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Truck driver. Yes, okay, I.

Speaker 23 (01:14:05):
Have an English MASKI she's eight months old and I
had her training for a while to be able to
walk without dragging me across the street and to come
on a halt command. But she does real good at
halt command at home, like if she's in the backyard
and I yell holt, she comes right to me. But

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when I stop on the road, like I always try
to stop where there's an open field where I can
let her run, she doesn't come on to halt command
when I tell her. Now I use streets, like when
she starts coming to me, finally I tell her come
and then I give.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Her a three.

Speaker 23 (01:14:40):
But it seems like she just ignores me when I'm
yelling hope.

Speaker 14 (01:14:44):
For her to come to me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Well, you know that's she's eight months old. And what
you said is real interesting that you use treats because
that's a good technique. But just so you know, until
your dog is able to come to you whenever you call,
you probably shouldn't let her off leash in's strange place.
That's probably something you shouldn't do. And the way to
train your dog to come to you, it's a good
technique with treats. When she's really into treats, you have

(01:15:07):
a leash on her and you just sort of stand
there and let the leash out. And tell her to come,
and when she comes, you give her a treat, and
you do it over and over and over again, and
then you stop giving her treats, but you give her affection.
One thing you don't want to do a lot of
people do that. I see. They make a terrible mistake.
They get really frustrated when their dog doesn't come, and
then when their dog finally does come, they punish the dog.

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So if you're doing that, you're sending the dog a message.
Good for you, girl, because you don't want to do that.

Speaker 22 (01:15:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
The reason why your dog doesn't come when you're in
a strange place and you let her go on a
field is because there's way more interesting things than you
in that field that she's distracted by. And if there's
more fun away from you than there is with you,
she's gonna go to where the fun is. Especially at
eight months old, she's going to want to explore, and
she's gonna want to go kooky, and she is not

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going to pay any attention to you until she learns
to respect you and look at you as a leader.
And that takes time and patience and consistency. And I
would not let her off a leash if I were you,
unless it's a fenced place, because she is not going
to pay attention to you for a while. You've got
to work with her extensively. And as I told one caller,
remember you may train your dog fifteen twenty minutes a day,

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but your dog is watching you another twenty three hours
and forty five minutes a day. And whatever you're doing,
you're teaching your dog whether you're a leader or you're not.
So you've got to act like a leader and check
yourself before you wreck yourself. Constantly when you're with a dog,
you got to think about what you're doing and how
you're acting. Act like a leader, and your dog will
treat you like a leader. But remember, you've got to

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work with your dog every day on this exercise until
she learns to come to you every single time you call,
because if not, what happens is one day your dog
gets hit by a car.

Speaker 23 (01:16:50):
Well that's why I always do in a big open
field where we're not by anything. Okay, I just feel
bad because she doesn't get a whole lot of exercise
in the way.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Well, there you go, there you go. That's the number one,
the number one cardinal rule of teaching a dog that
you're a leader is you can't feel bad. Okay, if
you feel bad, you've instantly lost. When you feel bad inside,
you are not a leader. You're not treating your dog
like a leader. You're not being a leader. What you're
doing is you're you're having a human emotion of guilt.

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And when you feel guilty, you cannot be an effective
leader of a dog. You can't do it.

Speaker 23 (01:17:25):
Okay, I listen to you, guys. I just found you
guys a couple of weeks ago, so I've been listening
to it. I just said, maybe I'm just so expected
too much too soon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
Well, you are a girlfriend, she's only eight months old.
You can get one of those fifty foot retractable leashes too,
and you can let her go and pay no attention
to you, you know, and let her do her thing,
and then you call her, you say, come, and if
she doesn't pay attention to you, give a little joke,
give a little give a little tug of the leash. Come, okay,
give a little joke. Only do it twice though. If
she doesn't listen, retract the leash, bring it in, stop talking,

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stand there and when she starts paying attention to you.
You look at her and go, good dog. Then do
it over and over and over and over and over again,
never stop until she learns to stop what she's doing.
You know, I have a dog. He could be chasing
a bunny and I'll go, hey, stop and he stops
in his tracks and comes to me. That takes months
and months and months of work.

Speaker 23 (01:18:23):
Okay, all right, that's the fin me what I needed
to hear. I do have one question on these English mastives.
Are they good dogs for? Are they stubborn or are
they you know, like I know, like I used to
have a sharp pay and I couldn't do anything with
that sharp pay. But are they English mastives? Are they
good dogs?

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
The only dogs that you know, you're really it's hard
to train him to do stuff. It's not that they're stubborn,
it's just because of the way they are. They're breed,
you know, are child dogs and also huskies and malamutes.
They're kind of aloof you know, they're they're kind of
hard to train. They don't act like your normal dog.
They kind of act like cats. So they're a little
bit different and you have to treat them differently. They're

(01:19:03):
powerful dogs. And you know they're bread to pull sleds
and child dogs. I guess at one time guarded palaces
and so they're very independent. But I don't really have
much experience with an English mastif, although a lot of
people are getting those dogs now. I would just assume
doctor Debbie probably know more than me that you know
pretty much they're like any other dog, and you just
got to be their leader.

Speaker 23 (01:19:24):
Okay, Well, I appreciate you guys talking to me, and
I'm not giving up on her, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Don't give up on her. But stop feeling guilty. That's
a human emotion. Dogs don't feel guilty. You shouldn't either.

Speaker 23 (01:19:35):
Okay, well, I'll get alonger leash. I have a walking
leashon than I am, the ones that Chi can retracked out,
but I don't think it's fifty feet, so I'll get.

Speaker 14 (01:19:44):
One of those.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Good luck to you, March.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Thanks for listening to Animal Radio March. Tell a friend
about it if you will. Well, that's all we have
time for today. Thank you so much for joining us.
Be sure to download the Animal Radio app. I mean,
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