NASCAR's Cory Joyce Talkin' Animals

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor Debbie White, doc trainer
Alan Cable, rumor Joey Vellani, communicator Joy Turner, and here
are your hosts, All Rooms and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome, my friend. Be thankful you're on that side of
the radio today. Everyone in this studio is exposed to
whatever crap I have.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's producing a lot too much information. I probably got
the cold from one of you. Anyway, That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I am so healthy. How I mean to getting to
you guys. I think I'm allergic to you guys.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
No, don't say plural, just say how.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now, As she says she's so healthy, she has an
IV that goes into her arm and in it PEPSI
won That's I'm just telling everybody the way it is.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
You're busting me out on air, man, I'm gonna cap
it right now.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Big show Today. Within the next hour, we'll talk to
Corey Joyce, NASCAR driver Corey Joyce, who's going to join
us again. He was on last year. And let's see. Also,
we're going to talk to that lady. Maybe we'll talk
to that lady who's the owner of ob the seventy
seven pound docson who was seventy seven pounds. She missed
the show last week? Did she say why?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yes, she actually got called into work. Oh, so she
wasn't able to talk to us. So well, we're hoping
she's not working today and we can catch you.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
She's not like a fireman or a doctor or anything
like that. I don't think you really get it called in
for anything unless you're a doctor.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I don't know. No, never happens.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
And let's see what else is happening. No, Joey's going
to tell us about the kind of foods that will
make your dog or cat's coat look.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Splendid from the inside out.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
What do you got going on, Stace?

Speaker 6 (01:40):
If you had to guess what the smartest bird was,
you'd probably say a parrot or a cockatool. You probably
wouldn't put a pigeon in there with some of the
smartest birds.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
But they did a study.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
And pigeons, believe it or not, are very intelligent. I'll
tell you about it coming up on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I cannot wait.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
They seem to know when I put out the food.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Let's head on over to Lee. Hey, Lee, how are
you doing doing fine?

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (02:08):
Mike cat Vinnie. He's fourteen years old and he's in
good health. He's never had any problems, but for the
last several years he makes a coughing noise like he's
going to cross up a hairball, but nothing ever comes up.
And I've had him to the vet twice and they
can't find anything wrong with him. And I even recorded

(02:28):
and videoed him doing it, and they just dismissed it
as a hairball trying to get a hair ball up.
But every time I pick him up to bring him
in for the patio, to bring him in a house,
that's when it starts. It's like it's like a like
a choking sound, like a dry cough, but nothing ever
comes out. And sometimes once in a while he'll do

(02:49):
it on his own, just laying.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
There, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
And has he ever brought up anything any kind of
phlam any material, No.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
Never, But when he does is his throw up. When
he throws up, he throws up like dry you know,
fit like fit and stuff like that. But when he
does this, nothing ever comes up. But at last, for
about probably about forty five seconds.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Okay, So what he's doing, is it ever accompanied with
him vomiting afterwards or is it more just this coughing?

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Okay, all right, a dry cough.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Then I'm gonna go on the record here and say
it's nonsense for a dog or sorry, it is nonsense
for a cat to be coughing and to be described
as having hairballs. Hairballs are actually in the stomach, and
so that's the digestive track. So if we are vomiting
of hairballs, that's one thing. But if we're coughing and

(03:43):
it's more of a respiratory issue, gets some hairballs. So
I'm gonna say that's just whoey. So a coughing type
problem and a cat, definitely, there's a lot of different
things we look at.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Sometimes, things like.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Allergic bronchitis or asthma can actually be a very common
cause of coughing in cats and tends to be sometimes
in the bigger cats, sometimes more in the male cats.
So that's something that I typically would screen with by
a chest decade, that might be a suspicion. But outside
of that, in an older kidie, you know, there's there's
other things we look at, you know, heart related diseases,

(04:18):
you know, cancer, holyps, that can occur. But I would
say that if this cough has been persistent for that
long and it happens on a regular basis, I would
definitely encourage you to get some baseline screening tests. And
if your vet thinks it's just hairballs and doesn't want
to look at it, I'd say pick up that phone
and see another veterinarian, because for me in my office,
that would be something I would definitely look at.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Right, I understand because he eats very well. He's a
very sintack, but that's we call him skinny vinny, but
that's his nature and he has a very good appetite,
So I agree with you. I was kind of upset
when he's charged me with fifty five dollars instead it's
terriballs by. Yeah, I'll there is another senior vet at

(05:03):
the office that I use, and all the first time
I brought him to him, Vinny doesn't like to go
to the vet and he's basically what crazy, hissing and fit
the doctor.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Oh gosh, come out of here.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
He was funny. Get him out of here, get him
ask So then I brought him to the younger doctor
and he's a little calmer, so I'll take him back
to the doctor, my doctor, you know, the senior doctor
again to take your suggestion.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, definitely, and especially if you know, if he's a
bit lean, there's other issues going on, you know, in
an older kitty.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
You know, to be proactive for your pat's health.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I think that that is the greatest thing that we
can do for our paths because they don't talk, and
you know, the symptoms are a lot harder to relay
because you know, if a cat has a headache, how
do we know they don't complain, they don't say, give
me an advil. You know, it's hard and some of
these things can be very subtle. So you know it
might take you know, doing some x raise or even

(05:57):
some basic lab work to get a get a starting
point there.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Okay, I'll give it a try. Thank you for your advice.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Okay, good luck, way bye bye.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know, there's several ways to get in touch with
us here. You can call us. You can also send
us email at your voice at animal radio dot com,
or use the Animal Radio app for iPhone and Android
to ask your questions directly. And in fact, we just
had a couple of questions come in. This one comes
from Irena. She says, I got a problem with my dog.
He loves to attack any animal smaller than her, and

(06:27):
we have a cap that's isolated because of the dog's
attempts to attack and chase her. What do I do?
What do you think, Alan?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, you know again this always goes back to the
owner of the animal not being a confident leader. Whenever
a dog goes to that attack mode, that that place
where he becomes aggressive, it's because the dog is trying
usually to protect you and sees himself as the leader
of the pack. So, you know, to change that kind
of behavior, it takes a lot of emotional strength. You've

(06:58):
got to stop feeding it and stop screaming at the dog.
Most people you'll notice in a park when a dog
becomes out of control, they start screaming, you know, fight oh,
stop stop, fightoh, And basically they're actually feeding into that energy.
They're feeding the dog. You know, you've got to be
calm and make corrections, and you've got to you've got
to find a way to teach a dog with dog
language that no, fighting is not appropriate. We're not going

(07:20):
to be doing that. And the way you do that
is learning to give your dog a correction and recognizing
the energy level of your dog right before he goes
to that mode. And it happens very quickly. And as
we talked about, human things have the ability it lies dormant.
You can you can read your dog's energy and emotions
by his body language. You can see when he's getting set,
when his eyes get perk, when he's when he's getting

(07:42):
all set to go into that mode. Right at that point,
that's when you redirect him and give him a correction.
And you've got to do it over and over and
over again consistently for the rest of his life. You know.
I had a box where I was working with who
did the same thing attack dogs all the time. And
I started taking him for walks, and what I would
do is I would walk him towards another dog, and
as soon as I saw that heightened state, right before

(08:04):
he went into the out of control aggressive state, I
would turn the opposite direction one hundred and eighty degrees
and walk ninety miles an hour away, so he would
get a firm correction at the neck, I mean, just
like a major jolt. And he learned to pay attention
to me, And so I progressively brought him closer and
closer to other dogs, to the point where I was
walking him past other dogs and he was no longer

(08:25):
paying any attention to them. But every now and then,
even a dog that you've taught to do that with
patience and time, you'll notice him shifting into that excited state.
And you've got to be there to make that correction immediately.
It has to be before he gets crazy. It can't
be during the craziness. It won't do any good. It's
too late.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Then. You just think, if you do it during the craziness,
he thinks you're cheering him on.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Now, if you do it during the craziness, you could
get bitten.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Once a dog goes into that state where he's you know,
basically out of control, fighting for his life, fighting to
the death. The only way to you know, get and
intervene is with something, you know, like a like a chair,
you know, you shove it between both dogs, or a
piece of wood. If you grab a dog and you
try to pull him away from another dog when they're
into it, you could get bitten, you know. So what

(09:11):
you want to do is you want to intervene before
the dog gets to that state. Now you can drag
them away by the leash, but he's not. He's in
he's in such an out of control state. You really
can't correct him at that point. It's way too late.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
You can really see it, that switch, just it's just
in your head. Oh yeah, you can just watch them.
You watch them, and you didn't just look in their
eye and see when they're just ready. It's just it's
really weird to see them.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Their bodies get tense, the white of their eyes, you know,
their tails go straight up, their ears are straight up,
their eyes look all white. They perk right up, and
they get wingchy. And that's when you want to make
that correction right then and there, because if you wait
another second, it's going to be too late.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay. This email comes from Lisa. She says Alan, I
have an eight year old female Labrador Retriever named Kelly.
I've recently installed lamon and flooring in my house and
she's scared to walk on it. There are times when
she he likes it a little bit, but there's times
where she won't walk across it without a problem. What
can I do?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well? Usually when that happens, it's because something unpleasant happened
on the floor. Now, you know how slippery laminate flooring is,
and she might have had carpet before, and the dog
has never walked on a slippery surface. So maybe when
she wasn't around, you know, the doorbell rang, or the
dog decided to you know, run across the floor and
suddenly couldn't stop and crashed into the wall. Usually something

(10:26):
like that happens that causes fear, and so now the
dog associates that floor with fear because something unpleasant happened.
So you have to be again. You know. I had
a dog that I had the same problem with, and
what I did was I would just briskly try to
walk the dog through the front of the house in
onto the floor, and he would just stop. And so
I would just try over and over and over again,

(10:49):
not talking, being calm. Eventually I earned the dog's trust
and I was able to walk the dog onto the
floor and we just stood there. We didn't, you know,
once he went on the floor, we just stood there
and we stood there for about twenty minutes, and every
now and then I'd give him a pat on the
side of his body, and he soon started to forget
that the floor was fearful and started to associate the

(11:10):
floor with pleasantness because I'm giving them a treat and
I'm petting them. And it didn't take very long. I
would say maybe a day. I think it was a
day I had him walking across the floor. Because once
a dog replaces a positive association with a negative association,
you can eliminate fear. Now, it doesn't always happen that quick,
and it takes a lot of patience. Like I had
another dog that was afraid of fireworks and thunder So

(11:34):
that's the kind of thing. It takes a long time
to create a positive association because you have to wait
for a thunderstorm and every time it happens, you just
sort of go out there with your dog and stand there.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, there you go. List. I hope that helps you out.
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
Alan, did you have anything for doctor Debbie today?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yes, you know, I do have a will this get
doctor Debbie excited story. But more than that, I did
some in depth thinking, I did some deep reflection, and
I decided, you know, not only am I going to
do the Doctor deb Wie excitement feature, but I also
thought to myself, why am I breaking my back to
please this woman? Why is she not trying to please me?
Why is there not a segment called will this get
Alan excited? Why?

Speaker 10 (13:30):
Why?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I ask you? Why?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
I guess I've always been chased. I've never done the chasing.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, and that realies the problem there lies. There are
two stories, you know I did. I did see the
tiger hairball story, and I thought that was a really
cool story, only because if you go on the internet
and see the video, this tiger is very sweet and
all the animal control people are like, he's such a
sweet tiger, and the guy who brought him up is
petting him. And I've always been leery of tigers, but

(13:57):
there was just you know, where they'll turn on you
because they are wild animals. But there's just something about
this tiger that was so endearing. And I was so
happy that they got the hairball out out of his
body and it kept coming out. But anyway, there was
a story that I thought was really touching about a
deputy from Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office that found a dog
known as Susie, and the dog was guarding a deceased

(14:18):
person inside a house. Oh wow, and the officer, you know,
thought it was protecting its owner, but it turned out
to be a total stranger. The dog was just laying
by this stranger, and you know, they didn't know who
the dog belonged to. And they finally, because of Facebook,
were able to find the owner of the dog, a
woman named Sheila, and she had posted on Facebook, please
don't adopt my dog Susie. She's my brother's dog, and

(14:41):
you know he's not doing well because he's looking for her. So,
you know, finally the dog was reunited. But there was
also another story I saw about a dog named Captain.
I don't know if you guys saw this, but the
dog's owner passed away and the dog was given away
and disappeared, and they found the dog laying on the
grave miles a while the way of its owner, a

(15:01):
German shepherd. And this dog, now, the person who adopted
the dog let the cemetery have him because he's been
living there for six years and he sleeps on his
former master's every day. My gosh, find it on the internet.
So I thought that would get you excited, doctor Debbie,
because you know, I feel figured that would appeal to
the small heart that I know is in there somewhere. Good.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Well, you know, I am very just untouched that you
think so much of me. I have such a big heart.
But you know what, I like that you are switching
things up, You're not going for the gore every week.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
You know. I'm very touched by these kind of stories.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I think that is amazing, the dedication that our pets
have to us now and afterlife.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
So how did they know they're so smart? I don't
understand how they know all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I think dogs are magical, you know that. And you
know some animals are magical, and you know them when
you meet them. There's just something special about them. And
like I said, it's the energy that comes out of
the animal. It's not so much what they do, it's
how they appear and how you feel when you're around them.
They're just different. And you know, there was a white
German shepherd when I was a little kid, and this woman.

(16:06):
We were all little kids living in the bungalow at
the beach in the summertime, you know, and there was
about twenty of us and this woman would say the
dog's name. I cannot remember his name, but he was beautiful,
and she would say, okay, watch the kids. And we
were like three or four year olds, and I can
remember this. This dog would not let us go out
of his sight. He hurted us like we were sheep
and nobody was allowed to approach us. I mean, it

(16:28):
was it was amazing. He just knew his job was
to protect us from strangers and to protect us from traffic.
He knew that cars could hurt you. He knew, he
knew things a dog shouldn't know. And he was amazing.
He was like a little nanny babysitter that weighed one
hundred and twenty pounds. And we could pull his ears,
and we could pull his tail, and we could, you know,
grab his nose and he would just shrug it off

(16:49):
and go, yeah, they don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
He was a magical.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Dog, beautiful story. I liked that.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yes, that'd be next time we meet. I expect you
to have something to get me excited.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I didn't ask for that challenge.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Challenge, so you're walking away from the challenge. You're walking
away from you.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
That I am expected in the contract.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
I don't know if this is required in my contract.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know what, I sense fear, I send fear memes.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
It's not going to help.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's not sense fear. I send some emotional fear and
and withdrawal. I think you're scared to reveal the erable,
vulnerable part of yourself to me. That's what I think
it is.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
H all right, we're going to see about this, Alan.
I think you are trading in some dangerous territory. That's
all I'm going to say. Because I do have a
scalpel blade and we have been talking about testicals today,
so yes, back, that's just.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
To clarify, doctor Debbie. A slinky going down the steps
gets me excited.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Alan, If you're going to become my work husband, then
then my husband's going to have to start paying you
for my frustration.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
You don't want any commitments or responsibilities. You don't want
the pressure of getting me excited. I understand that. I
understand you're afraid.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And Steve well to the show.

Speaker 11 (18:03):
I just got it. What comment? Watch the Debbie and
two quick questions?

Speaker 12 (18:09):
Okay, go for okay, all.

Speaker 11 (18:11):
Right, Gobie went your website. Y'all got a great website. Now,
little friends, you don't y'all voters for one of the
best pets for y'all play such a cute little French
bull dog.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I gotta be real honest with you, Steve. You know
what you sound like? You remember the Peanuts commer, the Peanuts.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
I'm having a hard time.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Here the teacher and the Peanuts cartoons on TV. I
can barely hear he is there? You got one of
those them their bluetooth sets on? Or what's going on?

Speaker 11 (18:39):
I'm in between King then and on my way to
Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, that explains a lot. That explains a lot, if you.

Speaker 11 (18:47):
Can hear me. One quick question, how do you feel
about giving their pets oat meal? My girlfriend every other
day has been putting that in with her three Okay.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
We're trying to make the dogs poop or lower their
esterell er. What's the reason we're adding that in?

Speaker 11 (19:03):
How mister Peter now he's got the irrable bowels and
realise how bolls is?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Okay? You know what, I don't see a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
I mean, oatmeal is a nice carbohydrate, but I just
would be cautious as far as watching the overall calories,
and it just gets a little touchy when we start
adding things into dogs diets. You know, sometimes we like
to think we can kind of master a dog nutrition
by just kind of doctoring up the dog foods. And
I'm just kind of a little cautious with the tendency

(19:33):
that a lot of people have where we'd like to
take the spoon from the human table and put it
in our dog's bowls.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
So in general, I'm not a fan of it.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
But if you did a little bit of oatmeal, I
can't see it'd be a problem.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Be careful if it's that sugar free oatmeal. It seems
like we've had this conversation before, then a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Of it did. How you know it.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
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Speaker 13 (21:01):
This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
I'm Stacey Cohen for Animal Radio. There's a technology that's
been used by the military and now it's available to
civilian police departments because of the costs. Though a Massachusetts
Plymouth County Sheriff's Department is the only agency in New
England who's using this camera that's mounted on a dog
wearing a bulletproof vest. The dogs are in the line
of fire, and Ken Ballinger of the Sheriff's department says, well,

(21:26):
nobody wants a dog's harm. The risk is outweighed by
the benefit.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
All of us. A dog love That's why we do
what we do. We treat our dogs like our children.
The are parts of our family.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
The goal is to get cameras position regionally so the
technology will be available to more police departments. People in
Sweden don't usually have to worry about elephant damage to
their property, yet the enox And family and Varnimo ran
into that exact problem this weekend when a group of
escape Circus Indian elephants were caught wandering around their yard.

(21:54):
Oh look, it's not just a stray dog, it's a
stray elephant. One of the giant packet arms even started
crashing into the side of their house before they all
made their way into a nearby field. The Eenoxyens called police,
who in turn called the circus to see what was
being done about the elephant problem. The circus reportedly gained
control of the animals, although it's unclear exactly how they
got away for their stroll. Scientists are using a digital

(22:18):
age test to determine how intelligent pigeons are now. According
to fiz dot org, the psychologists at the University of
Iowa proved that the birds are able to use problem
solving skills to make intelligent choices. Using touchscreen computers, the
scientists had the pigeons pecket buttons on the screens to
move a virtual bowl of food towards them. After a

(22:41):
number of correct pecks, the pigeons were rewarded with real food.
That's like, you know, the Pavlov theory. Apparently, the pigeons
were able to make correct choices between seventy four percent
and ninety percent of the times. While the test show
that pigeons are smarter than once thought, Edward Wasserman, who
led the study, says they also proved the power of
their digital tests. I'm Stacey Cohen. Get more animal breaking

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news at animal radio dot com.

Speaker 13 (23:08):
This has been an animal radio news update.

Speaker 14 (23:10):
Get more at animal radio dot com.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You're listening to animal radio. Here's Hal and Judy.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
As you read, Yes, it's very Let the let the
doctor look at it, okay, gd you don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
I don't do people, man, I refuse to work on people.
That's where I draw the line.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
People are gross. Animals are so much cleaner.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well, I agree with that. I really don't have insurance
and I really can't go to the doctor to get
any medicine. For this is the night, quill gonna be
fine for me?

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Will you just bark?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, as long as you don't take my temperatary, try
try anything.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Doctor, He's not he's not fixed.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
That's that's the problem.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
I always say when we have anything going wrong, A
lot of times there's just two things hanging in a
dog's back legs across the problem.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Pretty much the same with humans too. I'm looking down
at my clone. I started this three weeks ago. In
this Petri dish. Here, I put a little DNA and
I was inspired by the story about the goat that
got cloned and the dogs that were cloned, and I
wanted to clone a little bit of myself.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Why.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I don't really know how this is done, because what
do you mean?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Why?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
You especially should know you're working three or four jobs
at once.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
But it doesn't matter. One and one of you is enough.
I don't need to do.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
What if the clone is like evil? How the evil?

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh, I didn't think.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
But what if he's a good What if we like
him better?

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Okay, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
If his hip or something like, you know, like a
bad beam down on star.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Trek, how long will this take? Doctor? This is what
the fourth week. Now, there's a little bit of mold growing.
I don't know that it looks a little bit like me.
But I don't know that we have a clone yet.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
I don't know. I thought we were growing meat. Weren't
we growing meat the other day?

Speaker 15 (25:00):
This was.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I am meat meat with eyes pretty much.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think we were.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Growing like hamburgers or steaks. Wasn't that what we were
covering the other week?

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
This would be cool though. Yes, what the clone grows
up and then you have like a ventriloquist act and
the clone sits on your lap.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's a good idea. I'd have a new career, that's
for sure.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Okay, let's move on. We're answering your questions for doctor Debbie,
your vet questions and some medical questions, you know, sore throats,
things like goiters groomer, dog trainer, Alan Groomer, Boy dog trainer,
Alan Cable, groomer, Joey Vollani dog Can I have some
more niquil a dog trainer, Alan Cable, dog father Joey Volani,

(25:41):
and animal communicator Joey Turner. She's shaking her head no violently.
She won't answer anything about your goiter, only your It
isn't like a growth on never mind, is that.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Like an impacted girdle? Is that what there's a goiter?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
It's when you have this huge growth that just doesn't
belong on you, like seventy seven pounds of fat that
didn't belong on this docks And we've been talking about.
Of course, last week was our fat Fat show, and
it was fat, wasn't it fat? And all that? We
We expected to have Obi's guardian on and she couldn't
make it, And that was disappointing because we had really

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teased it in the newspapers and the press. It was
all over Good Morning America. No it wasn't, but let's
just say, hypothetically it could have been. So we made
sure that this week she's on the phone with us,
and we welcome Nora Vanetta to the airwaves. How are
you doing today, Nora?

Speaker 16 (26:31):
Good?

Speaker 17 (26:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Now, this dog we've been talking about, Obi a docson,
weighed seventy seven pounds. I guess we'll start from the
very beginning. How does a dog get that big?

Speaker 17 (26:41):
Well, kind of hard to believe, but I think he
was fed people food for probably his entire life.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Okay, the first six years of his life and.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
His owner what. His owner wanted to get rid of him,
apparently because she weighed too much.

Speaker 17 (26:56):
Well, they were elderly and they were just not in
a position to care for him properly. So a relative
of their stepped in and kind of convinced them to
relinquish him.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And then you got obion this diet which he lost
a lot of weight, forty pounds in eight months.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
How did you do that?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Which for a human that's pretty good. How did you
do that?

Speaker 15 (27:18):
Well?

Speaker 17 (27:19):
I put him on a prescription veterinary weight loss diet,
and this I just kind of estimated that he would
need about five hundred calories a day, and I knew
he was probably used to eating a lot like not
on a scheduled basis, So I said him four times
a day a half a pep, and he just gradually
started losing weight. That seemed to be the proper calories

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for him.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
What about exercise? Did he do any exercise?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Could he?

Speaker 10 (27:46):
No?

Speaker 17 (27:46):
Not really, just he wasn't able to move much when
I first got in, so wow.

Speaker 12 (27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (27:52):
My other two dogs would interact with him, and I
think they kind of started stimulating his activity. And then
he gradually just got into their routine. So for the
first all, you know, several months, his only exercise was
kind of going back and forth between from one end
of the house to the other end of his house
and out into the backyard.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Did you anticipate the one big problem when he loses
all this weight, and that was that he'd have still
seventy seven pounds worth of skin around him. Not that
it weighed seventy seven pounds, but he had a lot
of skin left over, right, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (28:24):
And you know, his breed made it extra difficult because
his legs are so short that there was no way
that skin was ever going to tighten up so where
it wouldn't drag on the ground, and it did impeed
the movement of his little front legs.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
So you had it removed, right, you surgically removed.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Cosmetic surgery.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, have you ever done that, doctor Debbie? Have you
ever done a tummy tuck?

Speaker 5 (28:48):
You know, I have not done that.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I've definitely removed skin that hung in weird places sometimes
from big tumors being removed. But you know, the pictures
of ob before, I don't know that we can really
over the radio describe how this little guy with these
short legs, his fat on his chest.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
I've seen the pictures.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Just hard for imagine for his little legs to even
be able to move. He had no clearance, so you
know all that skin. My gosh, So I'm so proud
of you guys for getting this guy slimmed down and
you know, getting that skin taken care of so we
can have a good life.

Speaker 17 (29:21):
The further is just approached as a kind of a
mass removal. That's the way we approached the area.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I'm going to show before picture and after picture. Hold
it up to the microphone. So now I'll put it
over at the website at animal radio dot com so
you can see this amazing thing. The story takes an
interesting twist. I thought that would be the end of
the story, but it's actually just the beginning of the story.
I understand there is a custody battle now, and I
don't know if it's bitter or not, but you could

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tell me what is going on.

Speaker 17 (29:51):
The custody battle ended in January, but it lasted for
four months.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, what was that about?

Speaker 12 (29:56):
So well?

Speaker 17 (29:58):
I found out about because the local docs and rescue
shared the plea for help from that family member that
was trying to get him out of that situation, and
I just read the plea for help and I said
that I could help him if somebody brought him to me.
So another person volunteered to bring him to me, and
I thought that was the end of the stories, but

(30:21):
later about well, I got him the end of August.
In the middle of October, the same Oregon Docs and
Rescue came. They certainly his court paper saying that he
was actually theirs.

Speaker 16 (30:34):
So oh wow, that was the beginning.

Speaker 15 (30:36):
Of the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Did they suddenly want him because he was a star?

Speaker 7 (30:41):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (30:42):
Yeah, they expected no interest in.

Speaker 17 (30:44):
Him before and then all of a sudden they wanted him.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Did that cost you a little bit of cash?

Speaker 18 (30:51):
It did?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Lawyer's fees? Right?

Speaker 17 (30:54):
Oh yeah, how much a lot. Obi had donations coming
in through a site, okay, specifically for legal fees, so
it was all covered.

Speaker 19 (31:03):
By his.

Speaker 18 (31:05):
Supporters.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So you've got that covered. You don't need to raise
any more money for legal fees. Okay. The Facebook page
is it's still up okay, and that is Facebook dot com.
Is it the Biggest Loser Doxy edition Facebook page edition? Okay,
We're going to put a link to that over at
animal radio dot com if you want to. If anybody
driving along wants to check it out, I'll go give

(31:29):
Obe a big old hug from all of us.

Speaker 17 (31:31):
I will.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
You did good work there. We're so proud. It's an
inspirational story and a lot of cool. A lot of
our animals are overweight, and as we learned last week,
you know, maybe even three out of four.

Speaker 17 (31:41):
He's inspired a lot of people take their pets in
shape and even get themselves in shape.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'm going to lose some weight. I've inspired for myself
to lose some weight. What about you, Alan, you want
to join join me? We can use a little bit
of week.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Think I'm in good shape aal. I mean, I don't
know what you're looking at, buddy, but I'm pretty happy
with what I see.

Speaker 13 (32:02):
I would love to go on vacations, but I don't
want to leave our Charlie behind.

Speaker 20 (32:06):
I agree. I heard that the magazine Fido Friendly lists
places where you can stay with your pet. They also
offer reviews. So you have an idea about pet policy
to include any restrictions, fees, and what pedimenities to expect.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
That's dare I say, possum, what are we waiting for.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I'm way ahead of you.

Speaker 20 (32:23):
I just logged onto Fido Friendly dot com and I
found a four star resort, Hilton Santa Fe Resort and
Spa at Buffalo Thunder in New Mexico.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Charlie agrees, when do we leave?

Speaker 20 (32:32):
As soon as you can pack your bags, It's off
to adventure with Charlie. Thanks to Fido Friendly Magazine. To
find your next family adventure that includes your furry familyfriend,
log on to Fiofriendly dot com.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
I don't know about you, but whenever I've lost something,
I just wish I had somebody who could telepathically tell
me where it is. Well, somebody lost their horse and
an animal communicator was able to tell them exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Where it was. What do you do?

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Are you bizarre? I'll tell you about it coming up
on the More Radio News.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Let's go to Leslie. Hey, Leslie, how are you doing good?
What's going on with your pet today?

Speaker 16 (33:06):
Well, it's not it's my pet that I'm calling about.
It's needed to get some assistance with a neighbor of ours.
The bachelor, never been married, probably approaching seventy years old,
finding great entertainment and joy in buying kibble and leaving
it out for the skunks and the raccoons, and we're

(33:27):
in the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (33:30):
And I have tried to convince him. I've told him
the statistics that have epidemic gunk population in our county,
that they carry rabies, the raccoons, secs, you know, can
be a problem for pets and people. He has cats,
indoor outdoor cats, but he just gets this fascination. He's

(33:54):
named the little skunks and their babies that they bring
around each night, you know, just when it's starting to
turn dark. And we're smelling skunks all the time, spraying,
you know, outside, and we've got two dogs that we
let out at in our yard. And I just wondered
if you have any suggestions about what we could say

(34:15):
that might get through to this man that just thinks
that there's no harm in beating the wildlife.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
For a minute, I thought you were going to ask
me some medical questions about a seven year old man.
And I thought, gosh, this this shoe is crazy. He
was asking for human medical advice.

Speaker 16 (34:31):
I'm just trying to give you the full fixture. You know,
he's lonely, he doesn't have a lot of friends, and
these animals are his friends, and he thinks this very
entertaining to see them come to his back door each
evening to sometimes the raccoons and skunks are even they're together,
but I think the skunks usually come first and the

(34:51):
raccoons kind of keep their distance, and then the raccoons
come and eat when the skunks are finished. And it's
a it's a nightly regiments that goes on there. And
he tells my husband about it, doesn't mention it to
me too much because he knows that I usually give
them some flack about it. But I nothing has worked,
so I thought, you know what, maybe somebody at Animals Radio,

(35:15):
Oh God bless.

Speaker 19 (35:17):
What to do?

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, Well, and it's definitely a huge concern because as
long as he's feeding these critters, they're going to keep
coming back, and that's going to pose you know, all
the risks that you've mentioned, absolutely, so we really need
to work out. So I would kind of feel like
sometimes working with folks with animals and some of our
attachments to animals, even wildlife, it sometimes kind of borders

(35:41):
on psychology here. So I'm not a psychologist, So I'll
premise that by saying that you know, I know animals.
I don't know people, but I can tell you that
sometimes that attachment to animals can be so extreme that
even sensible information.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Just is just dismissed.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
So all your good advice may not ever sink into
his head. So a couple directions that I can tell
you that I've used for folks in similar situations, sometimes
more in like the hoarding situations.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
One is to get the local.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Either the wildlife department or animal control involved, Sometimes someone
with a badge coming up and saying, hey, we're having
a problem with wildlife. There are children in the area,
this risk is established. They can throw statistics at him.
That might be one thing you could do. The other
sometimes looking for a substitute, almost like a surrogate animal.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
So he's already got.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Cats that he feeds, but if he likes little critters
that run around, you know, perhaps it's a barter system.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Maybe a family member or a friend of his.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
We can work with them to say, hey, why don't
we get to something cool. You know, maybe I'll spring
for a guinea peg if you want to have something
to feed and to adore, into pet that's cute and
it's got little beady eyes. Then you know, maybe that
might be a way of kind of trying to find
a replacement, because there really is a psychological kind of

(37:07):
need for a lot of this behavior for some people
if they're not you know, responding to kind of what
would seem like rational information. So in the meantime, I
would have to ask, are the critters becoming a problem
on your property or is it just your speaking.

Speaker 16 (37:22):
We have tried to plug up all the holes on
our py in the fence area where we let our
dogs out, because all we had a problem with skunk's
coming on and we realize they are good diggers, and
so we've tried to put pieces of broken concrete or
stepping stones or things that they can't dig under, and
we've put chicken wire up in places, and we have

(37:45):
a pretty good protection. But they certainly go right past
our bed window on the other side of the house
and give off a good spray, you know, at two
o'clock in the morning or whatever. We know the population is, yeah,
they might will be thripped in our bedroom because it's wow,
it's bad, and we know the population is increasing. He's

(38:07):
encouraging that because he's he's encouraging them to not be
a frit people. Yeah, and he's also encouraging them to
have more litters because food is plentiful.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, and you know the things you can do in
your yard definitely making things areas inaccessible. I like that
you're doing that with either wiring, wire fence or blocks.
But you know, these guys, generally most of them are
active at night, so ways you can make it less
appealing for them at night would be to put a
motion activated backyard, like a halogen light out there, so

(38:44):
that would go off and really I mean I'm talking
like intense lights, so you might have to get multiple
fixtures things like that, or even the motion activated sprinkler
systems that go off when a critter kind of breaches
the electronic eye.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Those might be things that you can do.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
And then sometimes you know, just the using ammonia environmentally
kind of in some areas that can kind of keep
these guys away. So you know, you can try that,
but yeah, you might have to get some other wildlife
authorities involved to really kind of have an intervention with
this gentleman next door.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
My best wish is to you there that that is
a daunting challenge.

Speaker 16 (39:20):
Leslie for your suggestion, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
And if worst comes the worst, we can send Joey
Volani over there. They'll take care of it. We see
the best of luck, and thank you for listening, and
most of all, thank you for thinking we'd have an answer,
because usually we do. I appreciate it. Take care of yourself.

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Speaker 1 (40:43):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor de Wie White, doc trainer,
Allan Cable Broomer, Joey Vellani, communicator Joy Turner, and here
are your hosts, al Abrooms and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Well, my friend, good, then you're on that side of
the radio. I have a little bit of a contagious
cold and I'm sure we'll all have it next week.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Hell, and I've just taken the Nike will So this
show is gonna kick.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
But I'll tell you that, right, POSI for anything you
say this?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Right, we have NASCAR's Corey Joyce will be joining us.
He's the guy that was on last year.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Right, Yes, we have talked to him before.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Oh well, this is cool. I can't wait to talk
to him again because I see that he's even more
involved than he was last year with the animals. I
guess he has problems with his car.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, with his car.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yeah, I don't think he's currently racing.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh, we'll have to find out what that's all about.

Speaker 12 (41:33):
Probably has ten thousand women throwing themselves at him.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Oh yeah, talking about Corey Joyce, NASCAR's Corey Joyce, who
will be joining us.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
I'm over here texting with him, all right.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
And he has to be you know, he has to
be focused. I mean, you got to concentrate. You know,
there's so many people depending on you, your pit crew,
your sponsors, the people who take care of your car,
and then you know all these women are surrounding you
and got to really be focused to be able to
pull that off. All right.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Now he's focused on texting me with the.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Texting of this celebrities that we have, So Stacy, what
are you working on?

Speaker 6 (42:04):
Everybody's got a camera on him. Even the police department
they have those little cameras on their dashboards now. So
if they pull you over and you want to take
a swat at him and say you weren't you.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Weren't speeding when you really were, they're going to film.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
You doing that.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
And police dogs now are carrying cameras. They're positioned on
their bulletproof vests. I'll tell you about it coming up
on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I cannot wait to find out about that.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
A lot of dogs butts in that video Dad.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
In just a couple of minutes, we're gonna go to
the phones here. Judy just got a brand new listener.
What's his name? Do you have his name? Larry? Larry Okay,
brand new listener.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
People are still just now finding us.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
If you're brand new to Animal Radio. To my left
is Joey. He has the uh well, he looks like
he's straight out of the Sopranos. Let's put it that way.
Alan to my right, today's wearing an arm with stupid shirt.
And Debbie alone, Yes, the arrow's actually pointing out unning up.
And Debbie has a pepsi one IV and she lives

(43:06):
on that you know, she's in the office all the time.
I'm just on night all today. And then of course
Joey Turner, she knows exactly what you're thinking right now.
Pretty scary. Hey, Mike, how are you doing good?

Speaker 10 (43:20):
How about you doing well?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (43:22):
It's a great token to you guys. Listen. I really
enjoy your show in the afternoons. I'm a truck driver
and I go all over the country and it's a
it's a good compliment from Bill Handle on the Lord
and I listened to you guys and it's screen entertainment.
I should appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, we appreciate you listening.

Speaker 10 (43:37):
And I got it. I got a question now, not
too long ago, but two months ago when I was
home on my hometime, my wife and I we adopted
a pitbull terrier mix. We saved the Watermelon Mountain ranch
where we live, and we have two other dogs well,
one Australian Shepherd mix, another one is Australian cattle. He's

(43:59):
a big dog. I love my babies. They my son's god.
I love them. And the pit bull mix Terrio, we
call him Coco. We have training, we do we house training.
He does great, and every when we leave the door open,
he goes and sometimes he gets I don't know. He
goes and goes to the bedroom in the dining room
all the time, and my wife says, he did it

(44:20):
again this morning. And he does good for a couple
of days and then all of a sudden he does
it again. You have any suggestion what we could.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Do, well, Mike, I'm so glad you called buddy. You're
such a cool guy. You're really a sweet man, and
you know it's so funny how humans interact with their dogs.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Humans will spend a lot of time researching a car,
but when they buy a dog or they bring home
a dog, especially when they have other dogs, they do
very little research and educating of themselves to understand how
dogs act and behave. And dogs and animals and general people,
we all have a universal language. We read one another's

(44:57):
energy and emotions, and humans also can, but most humans
let it fall by the wayside. It kind of lies dormant.
So if you're displeased with your dog, your dog's gonna
know when you come in the room, because your dog
feels that energy, feels that you're displeased, feels the anger.
But the dog doesn't understand the reason you're displeased. He
doesn't know that you're mad because he peed or because

(45:19):
he chewed. It's up to you to teach him these things.
And the only way to teach a dog when you
say I love him, they're my babies. That's what's holding
you back, my friend. I understand how much you love
your dogs. I do, and you can display that wonderful emotion,
but it has to be at the right time and
the right way that your dog will understand. When your

(45:39):
dog pees in the house usually it's because he's marking
territory and because he doesn't feel his owner is a
strong pack leader. His owner's not dominant, his owner is
not a good leader strong enough to protect him in
the pack. So he assumes that position and marks territory
in the house to let other dogs know, Hey, this
is my territory. I live here, I'm in charge.

Speaker 10 (46:02):
You know we have the other dogs. I mean when
he house trained them, you want to laugh. You know
how I hust trained them. I don't know if you
get a kick out of it. I go, we got
we live in a desert. I live in we got
rocks with zero escape backyard, right and we've got the
first dog got Max's name is. I went out there
and I took a leak out signed. I show him Max,
this is what you gotta do. And he picked it

(46:22):
up right away because he's Australian Shepherd mix. And the
other one, Fuff watched Max. But this one he does
good for a couple of days. And you're right. You
hit him right on and nail. I mean, I get
a man of him. And then I said, well you're
gonna get punished then soon when I see his face,
my knees buckle.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, but you all see that, buddy, he doesn't know
why you're mad at him unless you catch him in
unless you catch him at the exact moment that he's
doing it. And let me tell you, don't be mad.
Make a correction. The most valuable thing that any person
listening to the radio right now can learn is how
to teach their dog what they want. How do you
commune to a dog what you want? Now, you'll talk

(47:02):
to people on the street that will swear up and down.
I meet him every day. My dog understands English. He
knows exactly what I'm saying. Well, no, he doesn't. You know,
he can learn a couple of words. Dogs can learn
up to two hundred words if they're really smart. But
when you, you know, speak complex English to a dog,
you you might as well be talking to a plant.
They have no idea what you're saying. You know, it's
all done with your body and your action. So if

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you put a leash around your dog's neck with a
little choker chain on there, and you you have to observe,
and you have to watch, and when you see him
make his move to pee or even go in a room,
you don't want him to go in or do anything
that you don't like. You have to make a firm
correction right then and there. I mean, it's got to
be a quick.

Speaker 10 (47:42):
Then you think, well, the.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Best way to make a correction is with your fingers.
You can poke them in the neck, or you can
use a choke collar. But you don't pull it, buddy.
It's kind of like, you know, like when you're talking
to your best brand and you kind of daydream and
he goes, hey, you're listening, and he taps you in
the shoulder real hard. It's like that. You give him
a little jolt and go hey hey, and then you
take him outside.

Speaker 10 (48:02):
When I was home last time, Sir, I caught him
being in the dining room and now yelled at him
and I pointed my finger at him. I say, you
don't do that. No, no, no no, And then I
opened up the sliding door in the kitchen. He ran
out sorry, and you could tell you he knew he
did wrong. That's why I was puzzled him. I might
tell me once in a while, you know, Well, we
end up doing We ended up blocking all three dogs
in the bedroom with us. They were not going the

(48:24):
bedroom because we got to get up. My wife has
got to get up a couple times a night to
open up the door so they could go bedroom. And
I guess Max Australian shepherd, he's our smartest one, but
he's eleven years old. He still looks like a puppy.
He ended up opening up the dog and know how
we opened up the door, but then the other one
decided to get in there. That the young tipple terrio
next Coco, and he decided going to the dining room again.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Well, you know he's he's a powerful dog. The other
two you're lucky, you know. I mean my sister in law.
My sister in law is dealing with a dog right now.
She's like, I've never had a dog like this. The
dog bites them and you know they're totally weak. And
you're weak too because you're letting the dogs in the
room with you. And you can do that with the
other two, but with the pitbull, terrier needs a clear
message who the boss is. It doesn't mean you're mean,

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it doesn't. It means you're a firm, consistent, patient leader
showing him the way. So the next time he makes
his move to go in the dining room, don't point
your finger because he doesn't know what the heck that means.
Walk over to him, grab the leash, give him a
little tug. Hey, no, and take him outside. You go
outside with him, and then you go go to the bathroom.

(49:28):
Go to the bathroom, Go to the bathroom. You just
keep saying it over and over until he goes. And
then as soon as he goes, you go, good dog,
good dog, give him a truck.

Speaker 10 (49:35):
Oh, okay, that makes sense. Yet she has a three
dogs sleeping on a bed.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Well, you know what that's dangerous. I'm gonna tell you
why that's dangerous. And we've talked about this on this
show many times, right Hall, I mean where hell, let's
the dog. When you have a powerful breed, let me
tell you what goes on inside of dog's mind. Okay,
in the dog world, there are leaders and followers. It's
as simple as that. If you let a dog sleep
in your space, it's very dangerous with a powerful breed

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because it confuses them and and it can sometimes turn
into an aggressive state of mind because you're telling the dog, hey,
you're superior to me. See, in the dog world, a
dog would never lay on the leader's spot. He would
get reprimanded severely, so so when you get.

Speaker 10 (50:19):
Your tea is sweet though, though he does licks and
kisses and everything. He doesn't have no aggressive wood at all. Though.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah he's sweet now, but that can change in a
lightening and lightnings flash time. I mean, yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
I'm gonna call my wife after I told and tells
you everything she's done is wrong.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Don't tell your wife she was wrong.

Speaker 10 (50:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, because that be in a doghouse.
If I say that, you'll.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Be sleeping on the floor.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Can I encourage you, buddy, to go in the bookstore
and online. There's so much information on having a powerful
dog that will teach you how to how to behave
and how to lead. I would encourage you to read,
and it won't take you long to educate yourself. I
would heavily highly encourage you to do that.

Speaker 10 (51:02):
Okay, I will thank you so much and God bless
you guys, and I'll be looking forward to listen to
you guys again next week.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Hey, thanks, we appreciate it. Tell a friend about us.

Speaker 10 (51:11):
I will, I will, I'll tell all the guys. Man,
it's great entertainment because there's a lot of truck drivers
have they talks with that too.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
We get calls from truck drivers that have iguanas, ferrets,
all kinds of animals. Truck drivers like to travel with
a little bit of company. And I don't blame them.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Why can't hol be smart like that guy?

Speaker 12 (51:28):
I find it's funny that how how these men and
you know, he sounded.

Speaker 21 (51:32):
Like like like he was a rough, tough type of guy,
how they just fold when it comes to their dog.

Speaker 12 (51:38):
Growing up, growing up, there was a guy in the
neighborhood Dicto.

Speaker 21 (51:41):
His name was Johnny three fingers, and Johnny three fingers
was you didn't even look at him, I mean, the
butcher six seven years six seven years old.

Speaker 12 (51:51):
They didn't look at it because he's to yelling order kids.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
But why did they call him that? I never got.

Speaker 21 (51:55):
The real story, but I'll tell you, I don't know
if you guys want to even hear the story what
he told me, because as a kid, you ask, and
I asked, you know what happened to his hand?

Speaker 15 (52:03):
And his rectum had teeth, his rear end had teeth,
and he had an itch and hit his fingers off.
That was what he said to me. And everyone go
to respawna I mean, this is how I grew up.
You know, it was total child abuse. If you really
think about it.

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Speaker 2 (53:28):
Animal Radio. That's it, that's it.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
That's all you have to say.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
You know, I'll tell you right now, Ladies and gentlemen,
I'll apologize right now. I'm a little bit of the
influence of niquill.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
See how that's where I think you're dysplexic. You're supposed
to take the day quill during the day and the
night quill at night.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Are they mixed up for the daytime?

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Yes, night quill is for night time.

Speaker 12 (53:52):
And he's not even six. That's that's that's the crazy pot,
not sick.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
He puts it on his French fries.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Hey listen, I'm looking down at my clone here, which
I started what three weeks ago?

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, about three weeks ago. That looks pretty nasty.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, I don't know. I think it's starting to look
more like me.

Speaker 12 (54:06):
Yeah, I know it's I think it's it's the fuzz.
It just matches the hair.

Speaker 21 (54:10):
I think it's the hair that's growing on the flow
whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
That tree ish.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Yeah, he wishes he had that much hair on his head.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Okay, guys, you just wait. It only takes what five
six weeks, and then clone puff Suddenly I will not
be here. Someone else will be hosting the show, but
it will be me.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
As I look at your clone, it's not hard for
me to finally understand why your parents would move frequently
without leaving a forwarding address.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Okay, let's see, we're going to answer some phone calls. See,
so you need uh Alan's call? How's that coming there?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
You said?

Speaker 5 (54:40):
You said, no, I want to wait for Debbie.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Sob, how are you really good?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Debbie doesn't like conflict. Everybody'd be nice.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
I am a pacifier, yes, not in the like the
baby pacifier, but she.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Always makes me feel comfortable.

Speaker 16 (54:57):
Job.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
I'm a nurturer. That's that's what my professions all about it.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
You know you are a great vet. Seriously, I think
I told you last week. They have a friend see
my wife's sister, and they went to two vets and no,
I didn't tell you, and the dog was coughing in
front of them and they couldn't diagnose the problem two
separate vets, and they went home and diagnosed it themselves
on the internet that the dog had a what the
heck is it? Called? I forget that cough thing?

Speaker 7 (55:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (55:24):
And is it doing okay?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Yeah, dog's doing okay. Now, No thanks to two vets, though,
it was it was the internet that did it.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Oh, stop it, We're not going to bash vets on
the show.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Oh, we're going to bash vets Man. You're the best vet.
You're a shiny beacon.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Alan is a bit feisty here he is. I'm calling
you out. I'm saying you're feisty, you're worked up today.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I'll behave I'll do anything for you. You tell me
to be good, I'll be good. All right.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
That's a good boy.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
He trains well, Debbie.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Oh you know the train. You have to be good
at being trained.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
You're married. That helps, So you've been well trained.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Oh, my wife's the best.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
How you doing, Brandon? Where you calling from right now?

Speaker 18 (56:00):
We are on the road from coming from Washington.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Do you have your dog with you?

Speaker 10 (56:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
That's oh yeah, what's going on with your dog? I
have the doctor right here.

Speaker 10 (56:09):
No, it's a cat.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Oh, it's a cat.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
So what's going on there? Brandon?

Speaker 17 (56:12):
My cat was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism like two years ago.

Speaker 18 (56:16):
Okay, any like, is there any thing needs to be
able to do for that?

Speaker 17 (56:21):
They told me, like a give medication that I have
to get to them like every month.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
It would be like fifty Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
So if your kiddy was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism, what basically
that means is that the thyroid gland is producing too
much of its hormone and that causes the body's metabolism
to go into overdrive. So cats with hyper thyroidism tend.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
To eat crazily.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
They have a strong appetite, but they lose weight, they
might vomit, they might have a lot of thirst in urination,
and untreated, it will be fatal from the consequences of
the high thyroid hormone, the heart disease that sets in,
or the other complications. So yes, this absolutely needs to
be treated. And the good thing is there are various
options to treat pats with thyroid disease depending on your

(57:09):
cats situation and you're you know, honestly, your financial situation.
So the preferred way to treat a cat with a
high thyroid is a type of radioactive iodine treatment that
basically destroys the abnormal tumor that produces this and it
spares all the healthy tissues.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
So that's very nice. It's very targeted.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
It tends to be pretty expensive though, and it may
not be available in all parts of the country depending
on where you're at, but that is usually my first recommendation.
But in my area it's usually about a thousand dollars
starting price, so it's definitely not the first line or
the most realistic for everyone. But yes, the other options
that we tend to go with would be a little

(57:49):
bit on the cheaper side can be medication. In medication
generally maybe fifty bucks a month sounds realistic. There is
some monitoring that has to be done with that, so
some blood levels have to be drawn to make sure
we're giving enough and not too much of this medicine,
and also to watch for side effects, because the medicine
for a high thyroid condition can sometimes have some liver

(58:12):
consequences and some.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Cats just can't tolerate it.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
They'll just have vomiting diarrhea, they don't do well on it.
That medicine can be in a pill, a liquid, and
there's even a form you can apply to the skin
on the ears, and that can be a nice alternative
for some.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Folks that just you know, their cat's not the easiest.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
To medicate, so that might be a thought. And then,
even even more recently, the new way to even address
thyroid problems in cats is a special diet made by
Science Diet. It's a prescription diet called yd and what's
really cool about.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
This food is it is a super super low.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
In iodine and that helps to kind of, if you
look at it, reverse the thyroid condition. And there are
some cats that I have that are managed without medicine
solely on eating this diet and nothing but this diet.
And that's the hard thing for many folks is the
cats have.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
To eat it. You can't give treats, you can't give
other brands. They can't get into the other cat's food.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
But that can be a nice way, and it's still
an economical way to try to manage this condition.

Speaker 18 (59:22):
Okay, Like, where can I find that science dietote?

Speaker 17 (59:25):
Would that be a Walmart or something?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Never?

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Never, never never.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
This is a this is a medication in a Kibbel format.
So you are not going to find a medicine or
food like this anywhere on the market, on any shelf
outside of your veterinary office. And the reason is because
it could be very dangerous if it's given to a
pet that doesn't have this condition. So what you're going
to need to do is work with your veterinarian, tell

(59:50):
them what kind of you know finances, what your goals are,
what you're prepared to do for your kittie, and between
your vet and yourself, you can come up with what
might be the best, whether it's the food, or the
medication route or the you know, the iline treatment. Let
us know how that goes, and we wish you the
best luck, brand and thanks for calling.

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This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I'm Stacey Cohen, four Animal Radio what looks like. A
team of Russian scientists claimed that they've discovered blood in
the frozen carcass of a wooly mammoth. The carcass of
the extinct beasts was found by a group of researchers
on one of the islands in northern Russia. In a
statement on the website for Northeastern Federal University, the expedition
leader said that when the group broke a number of

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ice cavities below the mammoths belly blood came running out. Now,
that thing had to be there for years, hundreds of years,
and there was still blood that was frozen in there.
They described the blood as pretty dark. The researchers were
able to collect vials of the animal's blood for further research,
maybe some cloning. Can you imagine we may have wooly
mammoths running around the kain. Judging from the mammal's teeth,

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the scientists estimated that he was about fifty to sixty
years old when it died. Veterinarians are optimistic that a
seventeen year old tiger is going to fully recover after
having surgery to remove a gigantic hairball. The tiger, named Ty,
hadn't eaten for about two weeks, and that's when his owner,
Vernon Yates, got pretty concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
He's sort of like my biggest baby.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
This is my kid.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
That's examined the four hundred pound fee line, they realized
that it had a hairball the size of a basketball
in its body. That hairball weighed four pounds. That's think
Ty will be back to normal within a few weeks.
Officials in Washington State were able to rescue a trapped
horse with a little help from a telepathic animal communicator.
According to the Seattle Times, Barbara Linsted's four year old horse, Gemma,

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escaped from her stalin Redman Well. Caretaker spent hours looking
for the animal before they called in a horse communicator.
Rankatt says that Gemma telepathically told her that she was
in a tight space near shrubbery that was close to
a road and water. Instead, guess that meant a nearby ravine. Well,
that's exactly where rescuers founder. She had slipped seventy feet

(01:03:12):
before coming to a stop on a ledge. She was
pulled out and then reportedly now she's doing well after
what her owner calls a miraculous rescue. I did talk
with a animal communicator once with my dog, but I
didn't have such a great experience. Actually, my dog was
sitting there. I had a Rottweiler that had some bad legs.

(01:03:34):
The back of its legs were really bad. And we
were sitting on the couch and she was telling me
how kind and sweet this dog was. I'm not kidding,
and we have it on video. The dog turned around
and bit her right away when she was telling us
how sweet and kind it was. It was just crazy
and it was funny too at the time. But I'm

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I really didn't know Nike will was so effective.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I poured a little bit on your
clone here. I thought, I don't know if that's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Is that what happens? Hey, We're going to line four
and on Line four special guest Corey Joyce comes back
to Animal Radio. Hey Corey, how are you doing?

Speaker 18 (01:04:50):
Hey, guys, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Well, of course, how's the racing biz?

Speaker 18 (01:04:55):
Oh, what's going all right?

Speaker 17 (01:04:56):
Huh.

Speaker 18 (01:04:56):
We've been struggling here. We need some sonsors for this
season here. We went to Rockingham and we were running
forest with tend to go and just the motor let
go on us. So we've been trying to get that
back running and unfortunately the pistons for our motors six
weeks out. So we've been out for about six weeks
or so, and or a little bit longer than that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
You're you're actually at it. You're actually looking for sponsored
I would think someone would want to put their label
all over your car.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
Especially somebody pet related. Sure, so many big pet companies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
We'll have to figure that out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Yeah, you're listening. Big pet companies come on, step up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Right on the side of Corey Joyce's car. Well, you
know you love your animals too. You're not only just
a great driver, but you have an affinity for the
animals and you help out with the Humane Society of
the United States. And don't you also work there in
North Carolina with some project there we do.

Speaker 18 (01:05:47):
We're actually traveling around. We've been we've been pretty bit
here on the car late least, so we haven't been around,
but we've been trying to make it up to the
you know, the local shelters and do anything we can.
The organization is great. These shelters need help. All the
in them was obviously need help too. That's why we
do it. And I have a you know, passion for
animals and anything I can do to help them as

(01:06:07):
you know, a plus in their books.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
So do you have a dog? Right?

Speaker 18 (01:06:09):
I have two dogs. Actually, Macy was actually a rescue
and we talked a little bit last time about them. Basically,
I found yet pitbow lab. She was with a friend
of mine and a homeless lady had actually kind of
dropped her off. So I can't take care of her anymore,
you know, I don't have the money to do it.
And I said, well, I'll take her. You know, first
weekend I was going to the racetrack and she went

(01:06:32):
to the racetrack with us in the motor home and
she's been with me ever since.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
What a great mask.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
And then you got another one, right, I actually.

Speaker 18 (01:06:39):
Just recently, my mom got a Shetland sheep dog, Michelfie h.
He is about three months old right now, and you know,
he's a trooper, he's a he's learning that puppy stage,
you know, and growing up. And it's getting along with
Macy pretty well too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:06:54):
Macy's the more mature one out of the two obviously,
so it's a learning experience. You know. I've had puppies,
but never had a puppy and an older dog at
the same time. So we're getting to know the whole
animal feuds and everything. So it's pretty funny. At like
speeding time, we have to put them in separate rooms
just so they they stay away.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
You know, are most not NASCAR drivers pet friendly are
There are a lot of dogs out at the track.

Speaker 18 (01:07:18):
Sometimes most of them have dog sitters just because they
don't they're not around a lot, so they have dog
sitters to go over and let them out and all
that stuff at their house. So that's what I usually
have to do because I don't want to, you know,
torture the dog obviously, being in the hot heat and
everything at the racetrack, sitting in the trailer and all that.

(01:07:39):
Although we do have ac but it's hot for a
dog and it takes a toll on, so I don't
want to keep them out in the overheating them and
all that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
You know, it to be pretty dangerous too for them
running around.

Speaker 18 (01:07:50):
Yeah, we wouldn't want one getting loose and running out
in the racetrack or anything, so true to try and
keep them out there. But yes, most of the drivers
do have dogs and they are animal lovers. I know
a couple other drivers that are. They're trying to help
out the local shelters and all that too, So it's
an awesome thing for all these animals and the shelters
who have public figures like this and people that you know,

(01:08:13):
can make a different in the world and go out
there and help out these animal shelters.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I know Greg Biffel is helping the animals out a
little bit. Do you ever hang with Greg.

Speaker 18 (01:08:23):
I've met him once or twice here and there. I
know he lives right down the road from me. But
it's tough getting a hold of people like that. You know,
they're all traveling and they just want their time to
theirself when there when they're at home. So I have
not hung out with him or anything. But maybe in
the future. You know, you never know what the future holds.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
You have a lot in common.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah. Do you live in North Carolina, which is, I
would say the racing capital of the world. Would you
agree with that?

Speaker 18 (01:08:49):
I actually would agree with that. Actually, my town is
called Race City, USA. A lot of racing people in
this town.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
North Carolina is trying to pass this HB nine thirty bill.
Do you know much about that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
I actually do.

Speaker 18 (01:09:02):
They passed it in the House, but trying to pass it.
They're working on it to pass it in the Senate.
It's basically for for breeders and getting them the right
treatment for for the puppies that are going along with it.
I guess it's hard to explain. I was reading up
Bonnet and I like I like the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I guess the breeders. They're trying to set standards for
breeders so that they uh get veterinary care and safe
housing and parasite treatment and sanitary conditions.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Yeah, because right now there's no no standards. There's nobody
looking over their shoulder in the back.

Speaker 12 (01:09:35):
That would probably help us with these terrible puppy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Bills out there. Yact well, Corey, you're doing great work,
and I appreciate it. I'm thinking a big animal radio
logo right across your car there, that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I'm just an awe of NASCAR drivers just because there's
so many factors you guys can't control. I mean, look
at you're talking about your car. I mean, you could
be the best driver in the world, and if something
goes wrong with your car, I mean, you can't win,
or somebody crashes into you, or you know, if a
tire blows. I mean, there's so many things that aren't
in your control. I mean imagine being you know, you're
leading a race and then all of a sudden, you know,

(01:10:11):
you blow your engine or something like that. That's gotta
be frustrating, it really is.

Speaker 18 (01:10:15):
I mean at Rockenham, I was almost heartbroken because I
was running so good and we were just just riding
waiting for, you know, leaders to fall off, and you know,
the car was hame on, amazing my crew. I can't
thank them enough either. You know, it's tough, but there's
always you always think about it and at the end
of the day, there's always gonna be another race to

(01:10:36):
go to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
So that's a good guy, you know. Lady because because
Joey's wife's available.

Speaker 21 (01:10:42):
But I can't believe you said that, because what I
was thinking is, I said, here's this guy you got.
You got a good looking twenty year old guy around
all these beautiful women that are at races that likes pets.

Speaker 12 (01:10:52):
Okay, so he like has this whole package. So that's
why I mean.

Speaker 21 (01:10:55):
I like you, but I hate you because they're jealous
and they're so jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I'm so jealous. Yes, Corey, we wish you the best
of luck in the next race there getting the car
back together, and give ma see a big old hug
from all of us over at Animal Radio.

Speaker 18 (01:11:08):
Oh well, thank you guys for having me. Anytime you
guys want to talk, I's set it up and we'll
we'll do it again about the updates on the race
season and and the women. You know, the women to
report for you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
There's an idea, Judy. Can you start the.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
New women report and think so, oh okay, why.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
I want Corey to line up all the drivers so
I can start talking and doing interviews with all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
The oh, I get it, and trying to find yourself
and driver her husband.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Huh for the show.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
He's a hoarder.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
There you go, ladies and gentlemen. Corey Joyce joining us
on Animal Radio from NASCAR. You big Nascar fan, Alan,
you watch Nascar at all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I'm just I'm just amazed. I mean, you know, I
just it's got to be one of the most difficult things.
Think about it. The concentration, the level of focus you
have to have, and then these yuckleheads are like two
inches away from You're all going ninety thousand miles an hour.
I mean, it's it's insane. It's I don't know how
they do it, you know? Is it magic?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Makes our job look like well, makes us look like cowards,
doesn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Pretty much?

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Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
It's Animal Radio. If you are sick, maybe I suggest
a Nike Will Martini, like Joey Valani just made me.
He's a good bartender. There was very good little lemon
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Little advertise on this show, because they should who Martini? Nike?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Well, yeah, they really should, shouldn't they. I will repeat
once again that I'm a little bit of Nikewell today
a little cold and uh everyone in the studio will
be sick. Thankfully, you on the other side of the
radio don't have to worry. Maybe you do. I think
I'm sounding a little slurry today, you think. Sure? Hey Jamie,
how are you doing good? Doing very good? Where are

(01:13:49):
you calling from?

Speaker 19 (01:13:49):
I'm calling from Corona, California.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
The beautiful LA area.

Speaker 19 (01:13:53):
Huh, yes, nice today, it is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
It's warming up. It's almost If I wasn't in here,
i'd be out walking my dog right now.

Speaker 19 (01:14:00):
That right now we're waiting for one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Okay, Well, let's get this over with. What you what's
on your mind? I got the good doctor here, I
got the trainer, I got the animal communicator, I got
the groomer. We're all here for you.

Speaker 19 (01:14:10):
Well, we live in a somewhat rural environment and we
have coyotes that run down in the back of our
house every once in a while, and we live kind
of up a steep slope and we have a four
foot chain link. We've never seen a coyote this close before,
but one was looking right at the chain link, right
at my little yorky. And what I did is I

(01:14:35):
got one hundred feet of two foot chicken wire and
put it on the chain link and hooked it up
to the energizer. And I want to know if I
should feel secure about keeping them out?

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Wow, Well, I'll say a couple of things, because we
have definitely a huge coyote problem in the Las Vegas area.
And the bottom line is you can never take your
leave your dog outside without service. I've heard of people
just letting the dog out, checking on laundry, coming back
and it's snatched and it's gone, and this will be
day or night.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
So that's definitely vigilance is the number one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
They're evil, you know. I've got them too out here.
I live in a rural place too, and my dog
is big, he's one hundred and twenty five pounder, so
what the little I hate coyotes, just so you know,
I hate coyotes. What they do is they try to
lure them into the woods so they can gang up
on them. But he's way too smart, you know, But
that's what they're trying to do. They're out there howling,
so he'll go out there and they can surround him.
I don't like coyotes, so I'm sure people are gonna

(01:15:32):
be very upset at this, but I don't care. I've
got myself a real powerful bb gun BBE rifle, and
I sit outside and I shoot them and it does
not kill them, but boy, it sends them a clear
message that if they come anywhere near my house, they're
going to experience a bit of pain.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Well, and I'll go for the non arsenal methods, of course.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
We'll leave the firepower to Alan.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Normally, for coyotes, my recommendation is to go with a
six foot fence. So if you're got a four foot
fence with the two foot elevation, you know you might
be close, but I would feel much more comfortable if
your chain link was higher to start with, because these
guys definitely are quite crafty and quite athletic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
So that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
I mean, that's the general guideline that we have with coyotes.
But for a lot of folks, I'll recommend putting like
a barbed wire on there, or you know, you're going
into the you know, electric electrified route, and that is
totally you know, a valid way to go as well.
There's other things you can do as far as you
can try to keep them away. It's kind of more
banking on that they're going to get into your yard

(01:16:36):
and hopefully you can prevent that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
But just like for straight cats, when we want.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
To keep them away, we can use motion activated sprinkler
systems or you know, for nighttime you can.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Use the motion activated.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
You know, spotlights and such just to try to keep
them away. But but I'm for the physical deterrence, and
I'll leave Allen to comme in on the firepower.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Well, it's not a real gun, it's a baby gun.

Speaker 19 (01:16:59):
Might be out of a paintball again, you know, I know,
coyotes have a place and they need to eat, just
not in my yard.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
They're everywhere they get. They're in all fifty states, and
they're overpopulated, and then you can't get rid of them.
So don't work you know, a bb gun. It doesn't
it doesn't do them any damage. It just gives it.
It's like pinching somebody. It gives you a nice big
sting and it's like, oh, okay, well I'm not going
near there anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Okay, I'll uh well, maybe shop in some other things
that you can try, you know, for a lot of wildlife.
It may work for coyotes, but you know, taking ammonia
and kind of treating the outside perimeter of your yard
to try to keep them away, just like urine, Well
you can there's some coyote urine deterrens you can get

(01:17:44):
as well. But you know, even just you know, good
old ammonia, get in a spray bottle and sprits it,
you know, outside the perimeter home. You know, we don't
want to put it in your yard where your dog's
going to get into it. But just the real pungent
odor tends to deter a lot of wildlife.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
So you're the Yeah, I go around and I usually
just mark my territory and that keeps everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
You're the you're the clone expert. Why don't you just
clone her a Bengal tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
That'll go there? You go.

Speaker 19 (01:18:08):
Well, I thank you very much for all your input.
I think the higher sense sounds good, and I'll leave
the firepower up to my husband.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I want you to know that the only rational answer
here came from doctor Debbie.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
My answer was a good answer.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
You know what was interesting is uh not a lot
of people know that you've actually brought your wife in today.
This is the first time that I've met your wife, Kimmers,
and let me say you lucked out, young man. You
really just gorgeous. She is a hotty. But as soon
as you mentioned firepower her eyes lit up. She likes
that in you. I can tell ye she likes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
It, but she won't let me have any I'm allowed
to have the BB rifle and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Well, thanks for joining us today. That's all we can
fit in in two hours. Don't forget. You can visit
us over at animal radio dot com and ask your
questions from the Animal Radio app. It's freeing. It's downloadable
from iTunes to the Google Play Store. Just put in
Animal Radio app for iTunes for iPhone or Android. There's
a lot going on there. And then, of course don't

(01:19:07):
forget Doctor Debbie's books Yorkshire Terrier, Shitsu's Pugs, Mini Schnauzers,
How to Be Your Dog's Best Friends. Great books, especially
if you own one of those breeds. There and we'll
link to that right over from Animal radio dot com.
Have yourself a great week, take care.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
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