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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mmmm, celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal
Radio featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Valani, news
director Laurie Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios,
here are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Tammy Tree, you know, working hard in the newsroom. Girlfriend.
What do you got going on today?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, they think they've come up with a real reason
a lot of people have insomnia.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm guessing. I'm guessing it's the old pets.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
In the bed thing that that Alan Cable says, you
know that pets shouldn't be in the bed. And we'll
find out more in just a couple of minutes here.
But I don't is that what it is? Did did
I blow your news story there? I didn't mean to
blow your news story there? But that, you know what,
that's not really news.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
That's not news.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
Anyone who's slept with a dog knows that automatically my dog,
my wife will get up. The dog sits up, and
she's a light sleep and I hear say, oh, Miles,
you want to drink? Has she got She goes and
gets the dog's bowl of water and brings it to
the bed and the dog. The dog drinks in bed.

Speaker 7 (01:06):
Now go off a bit of finding it.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
But yeah, it's not it's that's not news.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I get you a drink of water too.

Speaker 7 (01:11):
I mean, of course, nothing, I wake up.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I think we all suffer, at least most of us
suffer from it, and maybe we don't suffer from it.
But I would say, nine down ten people that are
listening right now allow their animals into bed with it.
And they've been told before that it's you know, that's
the cardinal rule. You're not supposed to do that, but
we do that here, Tammy. I'm sure you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm sure there's like a million of animals.

Speaker 8 (01:33):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Lady Bugs sleeps in a crate.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh she does, she does.

Speaker 9 (01:38):
Oh yeah, no, I started her out right when I
Oh yeah, she sleeps in a crate every night. No,
it's her little den, and we, you know, when it's bedtime,
we get up on the bed and we play with
her for a couple of minutes and then I open
the crate and say it's time to go to bed.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
And it's on my nightstand so she can see me.

Speaker 9 (01:53):
It's equal with my bed. So I'm only just a
couple inches from her, but I opened the crate. She
crawls in and I close the door and she stays
in there all night.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well good, yeah, you are the one percent.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
I started her off young.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I thought, uh uh, well, whether you let your pets
in bed or you don't.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
This is your radio show, Animal Radio. And also on the.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Show today, our hero, our hero person of the week,
Kittie Martin. She has a calf, a calf that lost
both of its back. I believe hoofs and legs lower
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to the tune of like forty dollars Wow, and she'll
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of minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Let's go to the phones and talk to you right now. Hi, Roberta, Hi,
where are you calling from today?

Speaker 10 (02:36):
To Park, California, the beautiful LA area.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (02:39):
I have a really sick cat. I took him to
the ved about a week ago Tuesday, and they kept
him in the hospital and they had him on ivs.
They had to hydrate him and whatever else they had
to do. They did blood work in the city. Has
a liver problem. And okay called bile something or other

(03:02):
and he doesn't eat. I have to give him a pill,
which if I can catch him because he hides in
the corner, it's hard for me to get him.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
And yeah, that's a common cat owner problem, is catching
the cat for the pill.

Speaker 11 (03:15):
Well, you know he's he's he stays in that corner
and actually when he comes out to go to the bathroom,
I can get him, but he doesn't like it and
normally don't hide because he's in my room. But he's
been taking I think I'll tell you the name of
the product he's been taking because I can't give it
to him today because can't get hold of It's called
d E N A.

Speaker 8 (03:34):
M A R I N Sana marin.

Speaker 11 (03:37):
Yes, okay, okay, that's a pill he has take one
today and then he takes something like moxrascilla and I
think the liquid okay, yes, yes, okay, well that thing
I and let somebody helps me, which they're they have
a cat here that goes crazy, their own cat when
they come out and touched him. But anyway, he hasn't
had that medication today because they haven't got a hold
and he's listening, he's okay, And as far as he goes.

(04:00):
They gave him a science diet thing. It's called A
and D.

Speaker 8 (04:05):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 (04:07):
Well from a whole week. He only went through one can.
And the only way he could eat it is if
I opened his mouth and shove it in his mouth.

Speaker 12 (04:14):
Okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 8 (04:16):
So the meat. So he's not eating much of anything
at all. Is he vomiting?

Speaker 11 (04:20):
No, now he's not. But before he went to the doctor.

Speaker 8 (04:23):
He was okay. And how's his general attitude his other
than hiding?

Speaker 12 (04:27):
Does he have energy or is he pretty lessless?

Speaker 11 (04:30):
He seems a little bit better than what he was.
He won't come out. He's right there in the corner,
but he won't. He won't come out. And it kind
of upsets me like crazy because I thought, I thought,
oh my god, he's just waiting to die, you know.

Speaker 8 (04:43):
And and then go ahead and roverta.

Speaker 12 (04:48):
Did the doctor say, is he having any kind of
yellow discoloration?

Speaker 8 (04:52):
To his god?

Speaker 11 (04:53):
He found out he was johnice.

Speaker 8 (04:54):
Okay, yeah, I guess his gums, that's what.

Speaker 11 (04:58):
They told me. In fact, I took him and last Tuesday,
which has been a week, and he went through a
can of food in a week, and I took him
back Friday for a follow up, and I have to
go back this Friday for I don't know what they're
supposed to do more blood work on him.

Speaker 12 (05:14):
Yeah, And the challenge with cats with liver disease is
because it isn't just one thing that causes the problem.
In the symptoms, when we get that yellow coloration that's
kind of the hallmark of agundus or a build up
at the bile pigments. But the reality is that liver
disease and cats can happen for a lot of reasons,
and it's partly because the way that their whole digestive
tract is tied together their liver, they're small intestine, and

(05:36):
they're pancreas really are kind of all intimately associated.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
So when we get.

Speaker 12 (05:40):
Disease in one of those organs, we can get all
the other ones to be kind of screwed up as well.
So we can get a pet or a cat with
liver disease that can even have pancreatitis, which isn't even
the same organ, or from small bowel disease. So a
lot of how we treat some of these things can
be similar in many ways.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
But when we're dealing.

Speaker 12 (06:00):
With liver disease, there's the decision on do we get
a full diagnosis or we're going to go for that
liver biopsy and find out specifically what we're up against.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
And what are best. Yeah, so that would be the
best treatment.

Speaker 11 (06:12):
So really good. So I mean not a lot, but
when he goes, it's a lot.

Speaker 8 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (06:20):
And so just for our listeners show, liver biopsies are
very valuable to help us give that direction and what
we need to do to treat. But it's not always
practical for every family. So if we're faced with liver disease,
a lot of what your vet is trying would be
exactly what I would try.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
You know.

Speaker 12 (06:34):
A long course of an antibiotic, unfortunately, is one of
the main stays of treating for liver disease, and among
siscillin is fabulous.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
Sometimes I'll add in some other ones along with.

Speaker 12 (06:43):
That, but that's the challenge is we got to get
that in and ideally with that one, we want to
get it in twice a day for three weeks, sometimes
several months.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
So that's yeah, to do it.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (06:55):
Now, some other thoughts I generally have with cats with
liver disease to help encourage them to eat. You know,
definitely a d which is kind of a kind of
canned food. We can make it liquefied so you can
actually give it by a syringe if he'll tolerate that.
That's one thing you can try at home. Sometimes in
the hospital setting we'll put a feeding tube and that's
one way to get that in more directly. But at home,

(07:17):
that's definitely if you can ask your vet for a syringe,
you can get that in just gently.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, now.

Speaker 12 (07:24):
And then there are some other things to encourage appetite.
It's yet another medicine to get in this fella, but
there are appetite stimulants that I'll often turn to when
we have a cat that's not eating with liver disease.
And one name just to kind of keep in mind
is one called mertazepine, and we can give it every
few days, so it doesn't have to be given daily,

(07:45):
and that can help.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
To stimulate the appetite of a kitty.

Speaker 12 (07:49):
Generally a tablet, and in most kidies, we're given to
a tiny little piece of it, so about a quarter
a tablet, and we give that every couple of days,
so that might be something.

Speaker 11 (07:57):
I had a packet of sand in here, and I
thought maybe I can try him on that, but I
didn't want to try it because he's one this other food.

Speaker 13 (08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (08:04):
Well, sometimes we just want our patients to eat, and
as long as it does an upset a stomach, I
usually pull out the stops. I'll pull out the stinkiest
canned cat foods that we can, and a lot of
times for my patients, I find that the fish flavored
ones really are the most appealing. They make me cover
my nose, but my cats they really like that, so
that would be definitely one thing.

Speaker 8 (08:25):
Well.

Speaker 12 (08:25):
That other thing that I the other thing I'll often
do with cats that aren't eating well with liver disease
is we actually supplement b vitamins. And part of the
reason with that is that that it can actually be
vitamins are actually involved with a lot of the cell
processes in the body, and it can help to improve
their appetite as well. So that's something your vet can give.
It's well tolerated. You don't have to give it. It's

(08:47):
given by an injection once a week, and that definitely
can help for some kitties as well well.

Speaker 11 (08:52):
I don't know what I called the program because I
wanted another opinion, and you're almost confirming what he said
too in a way. But the problem I'm having now
is that I can't get him to give him the medication.
And I can't. And like I told you, when I
when I do get him, when I give him the medication,
I kind of open his mouth and give him the food,
which he doesn't fit up. He does eat it, but

(09:16):
it's kind it kind of really worries me. I've had
him since he's been two months old, and he's.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
Not I'm sure absolutely well.

Speaker 12 (09:23):
If I can give you in one more little tip
that if you're if he tolerates given the food by
a syringe method, a lot of times, what I just
do is take those medicines, take those pills, get a
pill crusher and crush those up. Put that in the
blenderized food and you can give it in the syringe
and it can be a little bit less stressful, and
especially if he's taking the food, it may help to

(09:44):
disguise the flavor of some of those tablets.

Speaker 11 (09:45):
I don't have a problem when I get hold of
him doing the pill because I put in the back
of his throat and make sure he doesn't split it out.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
But do you think he'll.

Speaker 11 (09:52):
Ever ever survive this situation?

Speaker 12 (09:55):
You know that many cats do. But the hard thing
is is that it is a daily battle. You have
to get these medicines in. So rarely do these things
get better on their own. And I think that's honestly
why many cats we may not always see the end
of the treatment and they may not recover. But really
finding a way that you can work with your cat
in the least stressful way to get the medication in.

(10:16):
So whether that means making his world a little smaller
so that you can catch him and kind of find him,
giving him ample hide spaces, and then just peering those
medicines in a in a happy way that you can
give that with a food, or give that with some
kind of cat nipper or retreat, so that you can
kind of try to make him happy to see you
and not regret that he's coming out and he's gonna
get stuff shoved down his throat.

Speaker 11 (10:37):
Yeah that's the problem. Yeah, he's in my room and
there's dressers. He goes under and the Betty goes under.
Now he's in a special corner where I can't reach him.

Speaker 12 (10:45):
Jo.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Yeah, and it's a good fight. Roberta.

Speaker 12 (10:48):
You've got you've got a disease that you hopefully, you know,
can do something for. So as long as he's not suffering,
you know, I have to say that, you know, there
definitely can be hope in these situations.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I know Judy has to give our studio cat pills
every day.

Speaker 14 (11:03):
Oh my god, but.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
The cat's been getting pills for so long now that
it's no big deal, is it, Judy?

Speaker 5 (11:10):
No, So I've been doing it since two thousand and six?
So how many years is that?

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Every day?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Every day?

Speaker 9 (11:14):
Now? He's up to four pills a day I give him.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I've gotten to be a pro. I just sneak up,
pop it. They don't even know what hit them, Roberta.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Will we wish you the best of luck and if
you have any more questions, please feel free to call
us back.

Speaker 11 (11:27):
Okay, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7 (13:20):
Everybody loves dem?

Speaker 8 (13:21):
You know who does love me?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I will tell you who loves you.

Speaker 12 (13:24):
I have a red eared slider here. Well, maybe she
doesn't quite love me. I'm making her feel better though.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
The red air slider.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Yes, do you know what that is?

Speaker 4 (13:33):
I think it isn't number two on the Sonic Burger,
the red air slider.

Speaker 8 (13:39):
No, that's white asshole.

Speaker 12 (13:42):
The red eared slider is a turtle. It's a water
turtle common in the southern US. And you'll actually find
a lot of ponds are kind.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
Of like little pest species. People release them in the
wild now.

Speaker 12 (13:54):
But this gallo is thirty five years old, and she
came to me because she's not eaten good, because she's
got a belly full of eggs.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh so she's going to give birth?

Speaker 8 (14:02):
Huh not really.

Speaker 12 (14:03):
No, she has eggs though, so she's not mate. It
she's not been around boys for probably a good thirty years.
She is just every year when it comes to springtime,
she Oh, they're just.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The old eggs.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
Yeah, okay, gotcha, just like birds that lay eggs that
don't have to.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Have a Remember what last year you had had to
explain that whole birds and bees thing to me.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
Yeah, we're still working on it, Alan, You got it
under control. You understand the whole egg.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
The birds, the bees, the flowers, the trees, the booze,
the brods. Yeah. And I know I sent you a story,
didn't I? Dad? What did I send you?

Speaker 8 (14:36):
I didn't see what.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yeah, I sent you some cute story or something about
turtle's been married one hundred and ten years.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
I didn't say it. Did you text it?

Speaker 7 (14:42):
Or what I think I emailed it?

Speaker 8 (14:44):
Let me check my spam folder.

Speaker 12 (14:49):
Maybe it's in the blocked email section, Laricheck.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
That's where I go when I talk to a woman
in public, right to her spam folder.

Speaker 12 (14:57):
Sorry, you didn't even you didn't even rate at that, Alan,
I I'm sorry.

Speaker 18 (15:02):
Hi, Hi, who's this jan?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Are you doing jam?

Speaker 19 (15:06):
Hanging in there? Babe? Hanging in there, hanging in there?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Where are you calling from sounds Lake Tahoe listening on
kowl Huh.

Speaker 19 (15:13):
You bet your booties? Hi Jan Hello, nice to hear
your voices. You two, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So how are you doing today? What's on your mind?

Speaker 19 (15:22):
Well, miss Pye lapek, she's a little she's about a
year old, lopso upso huh. Hen she got her name
because I'm a nutty gal.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, you sound like a nutty gallon. That's how we
prefer them.

Speaker 19 (15:37):
Yes, if I couldn't laugh, honey, you might as well
dig me a hole.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah after while, you know, that's that's how you get
through life.

Speaker 19 (15:44):
And I have, oh, half a dozen or a dozen
more like a dozen half whiskey barrels full of soil,
and I put plants in them in the spring. But
miss Pie goes out in the snow and jumps into

(16:05):
the whiskey barrels, comes in all mud. Oh no, he's
eating sounds a dirt And I never had a dog
eat dirt before. But I've never had a dog like
her before either.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Okay, Well, you know the interesting thing.

Speaker 12 (16:23):
We classify dogs eating unusual things as the term pika,
and dirt eating falls within that category.

Speaker 8 (16:31):
And in general, if.

Speaker 12 (16:32):
This isn't a behavior that this little guy's done since
he's been a youngin and it's been a bad habit.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
When this develops as.

Speaker 12 (16:39):
An adult dog, or especially as an older dog, I
take that sign very seriously. It's not always doesn't point
our finger directly to a single diagnosis, but there are
some common problems I've seen this with and some of
those include blood related problems such as anemia's liver problems.

Speaker 8 (16:56):
I hear in.

Speaker 12 (16:56):
Deficiency problems, but we can also run into the realm
of intestinal issues, inflammatory bowel.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
Disease, even cancer. I'm going to.

Speaker 12 (17:06):
Really encourage you to get a pretty thorough work up
with your veterinarian, starting with blood work. That'd be the
point a that I would always always do in a
pet that's doing it, even if it's a young dog,
because we can see some of these problems that manifest
is a kind of almost an innate understanding that they
need to eat dirt. And we believe in some cases,

(17:26):
if there's an iron problem or they're anemic, that somehow
the animal instinctively knows I need to find this mineral somewhere. Now,
maybe we're giving dogs more credit than you know. They
have the sense of reasoning, but you know, it is
a sign that we do really believe that they're looking
for something and not finding it in their regular diet.
That also being said, a lot of times I'll do

(17:47):
a hypoallergenic diet because allergic diet disease can also present
with some of these weird signs of eating unusual things.
So that would be where I would definitely start things off.
Definitely encourage you not to follow any kind of remedies
off the internet. The first and foremost thing I'm going
to encourage us to see your veterinarian. My best wishes

(18:08):
go out to you and your your little baby, and
hopol turns up well, give us a call and let
us know how things turn out.

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Speaker 10 (18:40):
Vinnie Penn coming at you again on Animal Radio with
a party animal segment. I saw on the telephone poll
at the end of my street the other day a
missing pet flyer. We've discussed flyers here.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
In the past.

Speaker 10 (18:53):
The catch with this one is they had drawn the
picture of the cat missing. It was a pencil drawing.
Now that one you're not gonna really be able to tell.
I don't know. It didn't look any different than any
other millions of cats you see out on the show
where you don't see as many these days as stray

(19:13):
cats as he did when I was a kid, uh
back in the seventies and eighties. But they didn't really
look any different. Two, it told me that you're drawing
the picture of this cat that you never took one
of your cat. So how much could you have possibly
loved it if you didn't have a picture to photo
copy for the flyer. Now that Smittens is missing, not

(19:36):
even gonna get into the whole Smittens thing, But how
much could you have loved me? Maybe Smittens ran away?
One because you never took a damn picture of him,
and two because he named him Smittens. Any pen party
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Speaker 11 (22:37):
Well.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
They are cute, they are prickly. In some places, they
are illegal. Talking about hedgehogs, they are growing in popularity
as pets. Some people say it all got started with
the video game Sonic. You know, it's a little blue
hedgehog who runs at supersonic speeds and then protects himself
by rolling himself too a little ball. Some breeders now
say they have waiting lists five hundred people for hedgehogs.

(23:01):
They're a lot easier to take care of than a
count or dog. They're hypoallergenic. But hedgehogs are illegal in
six states and Washington, d c. And the reason is
because people, the people in charge, they're worried that the
hedgehogs could escape and upset the ecological balance. Hedgehogs do
also carry salmon elevant breeders say you can limit the
risk by washing your hands after handling them. But man,

(23:23):
are they cute. I'm Tammy Trio. Get more of breaking
animal news anytime on animal radio dot com.

Speaker 21 (23:30):
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Speaker 2 (23:36):
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Speaker 4 (23:37):
So we're going to talk to a lady, miss Kitty,
Miss Kitty Bart. She has a calf whose two back
legs were lost to frostbite, and she outfitted them with
prosthetics at twenty thousand dollars apiece to two of them,
forty thousand dollars to put on prosthetics on the back
of this calf.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
That's amazing.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
That is love. I wouldn't do that for my wife.

Speaker 12 (23:59):
Really, really, I'm going to tell her that. You know,
I'm going to get you in a world of dog
duty right now.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
I'm in trouble for saying I love a good tender loin.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Also in the news, this is really upsetting me. Ferrets
may now be illegal in New York, New York state.
Of course, it is already illegal in California, and these
fairly benign animals are pretty much legal in most of
the states in our country.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
But New York is.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Now trying to really do the same thing California has
done and make them illegal.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
But here's what cracks me up.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
You go into any pet Co pet Smarty California and
what do you find?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Food stuff?

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Yes, why are they out to get the ferrets? I mean, well,
why not the pigeons? Why not the pigeons.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's another one of those ecology things. And I think
if the ferrets get loose, they're going to set up
they are screw up the ecological balance because they don't
belong here.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
So why are ferrets illegal in some states like New York?

Speaker 12 (25:02):
Well, I think there's some fear that they're going to
get loose and kind of compete with other species or
going to reproduce in the wild.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
So that's some of it.

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Some of also sickness that they might bring to the
other wild Ferrets that are out in the populations.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Eat disc jockeys.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Oh dear, no, they're they're they're basically vegetarian animals.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
Then how can they cost?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And stuff I've never understood. And ferrets are neat they are.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
Kind of you know.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
I was just doing some research because I did think
that you had that backwards hell, and actually they have
been illegal in New York and now they're talking about
lifting the band you had?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Is that what I said? No, that's not what I said.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Now, that's not what you said.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Because I got this. I have this dyslexic news service
that I get in the morning.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I check with AP and up I and CNN I
get and some times everything they have is completely backwards,
and I just so what I've been informed.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yes, I was wrong, I was.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yeah, come on, now you can say it wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
So it's been illegal and they're thinking of legalizing.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
They're thinking about lifting the ban.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yes, oh cool, can get the audio story. Find out
more about that next week. Find out where what that's
all about.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I need to look into it.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I gotta tell you, are sure worst California would get
off off their ferret van.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Well, this may be the beginning of it.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Ferrets in New York cannot drink a big gulp.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
That's they changed that law too. I knew that you
can actually get a sixty four hours streak now there oh.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
No, no, no, no, that it was on. It was
a stay of execution, and now that it's back in effect,
it is back.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
You if you want the news, we're on top of it,
right here at Animal up to date information breaking news.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Yeah, the rats are fine. There's ten of them for
every person.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
I was gonna say, who's got pet rats?

Speaker 12 (27:01):
But pet rats and wild rats, you know, there's not
a fear of releasing those. But yeah, they can read rampant, right.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, we just saw a story about that where there
was a lady who was hoarding three hundred rats and
she was breathing the wild with the pets, which I
guess makes some kind of super rat.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Or something like that.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
Yeah, and you know, there's got to be concern for
even things.

Speaker 12 (27:24):
Like respiratory problems when you have that many animals and
they're not housed maybe in the most appropriate way. Said,
I'm pretty sure three hundred rats in her house don't
sound like they're raised in the most appropriate ways.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
But that's a health danger to people. So that's public health. Man,
Get that guy knocking on your door.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
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Speaker 5 (27:43):
I'm sorry, Yeah, Dave's not.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Here's a little teaching tal reference there. Good for you,
Good for you. Let's see.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
You know, we've been talking about a lot of different
apps that have been available lately and Tammy truehey or
anytime a new one comes out, she brings it up.
She was talking a couple weeks about this one, and
I thought it was kind of cool. It's called pet
Match and they're using this facial recognition technology.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You know what that is, Judy.

Speaker 9 (28:09):
Yes, it's when you take a picture of someone's face
and then you put it up at this app and
it actually finds someone who looks just like that by
just by the facial That is correct.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
And the cops use it too, right, Yeah, FBI.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
If you have an iPhone or you use iPhoto or
a Mac, all your photos are arranged by facial recognition,
or can be arranged so that you have all the same.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
People put together. It's kind of a pretty cool technology.
And these guys are using it to find and adopt
animals out and I think that's pretty cool. So I
wanted to get him on the phone here, Hey, Audi,
how are you doing good?

Speaker 13 (28:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Where we calling you today?

Speaker 23 (28:51):
We are in.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Palo Alto, Okay. So computer land is I guess what
we call it?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
And this technology before inventing it to be used for animals,
it was a technology you were working on for other purposes.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Is that correct?

Speaker 13 (29:06):
Yeah, it's is a direct technology. We are developing visuals
to the ability to find images with similar content or
similar objects and so can walk on anything. And in
the grand vision, we are going to release different applications
that are doing different stuff. But we thought that the
first one might might be very neat, very useful to

(29:28):
do it on tests.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
You're using it for animals now, so people what they
upload pictures to your app and then what happens And then.

Speaker 13 (29:35):
We are searching in databases of shelters and places like that.
There are millions of states available or waiting for adoption
in the US. We are searching for the one which
is as close as possible to you and that looks
like the one that you are envisioning and wants to have,

(29:55):
so I can.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Get my own grumpy cat.

Speaker 13 (29:58):
Yes, exactly exactly what we see. People are taking actually
or using images on Instagram. They see something nice, something
that inspired them. They want to have something like that,
and we can help them to find it.

Speaker 12 (30:15):
Okay, if I have some computer software that I can
kind of create and kind of meld different animals and
make a face of what I would envision, can you
use that to find my imaginary dog?

Speaker 13 (30:27):
You know, we thought that even people are taking images
of staffed animals of the kids, for example, then we
can find you can find a nice dog that looks
like a.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Now I understand that this tech news site The Verge,
they uploaded a picture of Lady Gaga and it produced
a matching image of a hamster.

Speaker 12 (30:45):
That is that correct?

Speaker 13 (30:48):
Then mythology is sometimes gone to places that we don't.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Understand, or maybe it's just real obvious.

Speaker 9 (30:56):
So if I want a dog that looks like how,
I can just upload your picture?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
How yeah, and you who knows try this? Now lizard
might show up? Who knows? This is only available for
Apple right now? Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (31:10):
Right now?

Speaker 13 (31:11):
Very soon, we're going to release also a version so dandlid.
Then we have improved application all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
And do we pay for it? How much is it?

Speaker 7 (31:18):
No?

Speaker 13 (31:18):
It's completely free. We are we are really trying to
help here.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
We're doing good work. You certainly are. So the website
where we can learn more about it?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
What is?

Speaker 13 (31:27):
It's a seris dot com. It's a little Man's side
and there is a pet mess and Facebook page.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I will put links to that over at animal radio
dot com. Audi, thanks so much for hanging with us.

Speaker 13 (31:39):
Today very much.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I appreciate it. That's kind of cool technology. What do
you think about that, Allen?

Speaker 7 (31:43):
I think that anytime you can get a dog that
looks like you, it's a wonderful.

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Hi, everybody, this is Laurie Morgan reminding you to please
stay or newt or your pits.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Blind at the Red Barn Studios. You're listening to Animal Radio.
Here's hol and Judy.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Hi, Debbie, how are you doing?

Speaker 24 (33:15):
I'm great?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
How are you good? What's going on in your world?

Speaker 24 (33:18):
I think I need to talk to doctor Debbie. I
have an unusual situation. I have four Boston Terriers and
I have one of them who's at six years old.
He has developed a weird thing when the leaves started
to follow this year that he's never had before, and
that's where he starts bubbling out of his nose and

(33:38):
he has trouble breathing, and then he might fall over
on his side and sit up slim and then be okay.
But seemingly he's you can see that he's.

Speaker 14 (33:52):
Been just distressed.

Speaker 24 (33:54):
We've been to the emergency clinic and altern a integrative
doctor veterinarian here and a regular veterinarian, and nobody seems
to really have a real answer. Or they just want
to put him on pregnis zone or temeral p and
devadrill and then he seems okay sort of, and then
when we start to wean him off, he goes back

(34:15):
to the same weird behavior. And we've had leaves, you know,
for the six years that we have had him, and
this is the first time I've ever seen this.

Speaker 12 (34:26):
Okay, And so has he had problems breathing unrelated to
the fall, you know, being a Boston tier.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
Has he had problems with any kind.

Speaker 12 (34:34):
Of nasal surgery soft palate as far as.

Speaker 24 (34:39):
Before the age of twelve months, he had two soft
palate surgery from at Ohio State University. Uh huh okay
and the nasal one too.

Speaker 12 (34:48):
Okay, all right, So he has so and that's the
big thing now when he has the episodes when he's
bubbling in that does he just fall over kind of
all of a sudden, have any kind of seizure like activity.

Speaker 24 (35:01):
It does not look like a seizure, and they don't
think that it is. They think that he he can't
get air, and because right afterwards he sits up white, slim,
and then he's like fine and he's not really passing out.
Passing out. But he just falls over on his side.
And when he does that, you know, it's uh. And

(35:23):
I've even tried, like I've given the hemlock in the
in the white flem will pop out, un I'll feel fine.
So what they're saying is they think it's accumulating. The
excess of mucus is accumulating. And he has I was
told he has an extra fat tongue and that he
has even since the surgery. He just has a tiny

(35:44):
little opening, you know, through his throat.

Speaker 12 (35:49):
I gotcha, all right, And that's going to be the
big thing. Is what I think your boy is doing
is having vaguel episodes. And this is actually something that
happens a lot in the break acephaalic breeds, the short
face breeds. And one of the reasons is is that, well,
how back up. The vegus nerve is a nerve that
goes from the head down to the abdomen, and there

(36:10):
can be certain things in the body that disrupt that
or overstimulate that nerve. For some animals and people, it
can be things like digestive problems.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
It can be respiratory problems.

Speaker 12 (36:21):
And I see this a lot in the breakacephalics that
if they have a lot of the respiratory components to
the upper airway disease. They have the narrowed nostrils, they
have a neurotrichia long soft palette. They can even get
everted tracheal or laryngeal saccules and some.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
Other changes up there.

Speaker 12 (36:39):
So some of those things they might not see, but
they might suspect. You'd have to kind of go up
with a scope to see some of those other things
in the back of the throat.

Speaker 8 (36:49):
But just being of that.

Speaker 12 (36:50):
Breed and having some of these airway changes, it's going
to make it very likely that the vegus nerve can
get overstimulated. And what happens with that the heart rate
drops and the heart doesn't pump as well, and the
blood pressure drops, and the pet will pass out and
it usually come right back up.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
I've even seen dogs do.

Speaker 12 (37:08):
This after they vomit, so where they'll vomit and then
they just pass out and then they come right back up.
So the the goal would be is to try to
address what is the biggest problem, and that's going to
be the respiratory disease. So that might mean going to
have you know, some of these other upper airway things
evaluated and to see if those need to be addressed.
And then the other thing is, yeah, if we have

(37:30):
allergies something seasonal that makes our respiratory symptoms worse, oh boy,
you've got an extra whammy onto the whole thing there.
So then we might talk about, you know, things like
you know, steroids can be helpful for the short term,
but you may even want to see dermatologists for allergy
testing and molds just like anything else seasonally we can

(37:50):
test for. We can hypoth sensitive desensitize a pet with
hyposensitization injections, and that might.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
Be one thing you can do.

Speaker 12 (37:59):
You can do that absolutely, yeah, And every region in
the country is a little different in some of those things,
so you have to make sure that testing is done
appropriate for your area.

Speaker 17 (38:08):
I see.

Speaker 24 (38:08):
And then but the other little Boston terrier that actually
is his daughter that I have, she just started doing
the bubbling too, and I thought, Okay, now we know
this is because they finished the bed. We know there's
nothing contagious going on here. But at the same thing,
she'll go outside and she'll play with a ball in

(38:29):
the leaves, and then she'll come back in and she's
not as bad as him, but you know she's doing
it now too, and I'm thinking, what the heck.

Speaker 12 (38:38):
Yeah, yeah, so I would definitely make sure if she
hasn't had her her neeries evaluated or corrected, that'd be
definitely one of the first things. But you know, even
going further back and going up with the scope because
you know, some of these things they're progressive, so you
can correct and with the breaks of valet dogs, we
want to jump on these things when they're young, because
with time, all these other components start to involve, and

(38:59):
one those some of the more chronic things happen, you
can't reverse them more easily. So we want to get
in there beforehand, do the soft palette, do the stenatic
neres if necessary, because there's all these other problems that
will come on and that just are so much more
challenging to deal with.

Speaker 24 (39:14):
Well, okay, you don't know anybody that's in this area
that's a specialist in this type of thing.

Speaker 12 (39:20):
Be you Well, you know, if you're dealing with veterinary schools,
you're going to find a lot of the people at
the top of their fields right there. And as far
as in dermatology, they're going to have dermatologists there as well,
So I think you're going to have two different type
of approaches. One is going to be addressed the allergies
and the second is going to be address the upper airways,
and that'll be through you know, an internal medicine type specialist.

Speaker 24 (39:42):
Okay, great, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
It's okay.

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Speaker 18 (42:37):
I've got a four year old Rotwiler and she's been
losing hair for about the last four months. We just
moved into a new house, but prior to that shared
a grass yard, and now we've got a pull and
a lot of me. So I'm wondering us Maybe it's
just something I didn't see before. I've looked it up online,
and I guess a lot of people have some of
the same complaints where they lose hair. It's kind of

(42:58):
short and wiry, but he runs and leaves the trail.
You know. If she scratches, she leaves a pile. If
she lays somewhere, she gets up and there's just tons
of it. So we've tried to keep it down by
hosing it off. But what that did is this heat
that we've got, is it created wet ground and now
we've got millions of knacks. I'm wondering if there's the

(43:21):
way or if there's some I thought it was our food,
but we switched her food again and it's not the food.
Is that just the way they are? Is that normal?

Speaker 12 (43:31):
Well, to some degree, Yes, they do shed a lot.
Now I wanted to ask you real quick. Is she
having any kind of unusual hair loss, any baldness or
swords or anything.

Speaker 18 (43:41):
No, it's all pretty even. Her coat says pretty even.
She has no no raw areas or anything like that,
other than maybe here heels where she lays down sometimes,
you know, and that's just a little sin. But it's not.
She has no bear space, no bear spot.

Speaker 12 (43:57):
Okay, Yeah, So I'm going to be very honest with you.
This is something that is not likely to be fixed,
not in the sense of how are we going to
stop shedding, because shedding is a reality for every dog,
even those that don't shed much, those that are clipped,
they still shed their hairs, they just don't shed it
end the same cycle. But dogs like rotweilers and labradors

(44:18):
in particular are well known for the just excessive amounts
of hair that they shed at any particular time. The
tricks are, don't spend your money on a lot of
those silly old sprays that you put on the hair
coat that are supposedly to stop shedding. The only way
those products work are because you start brushing your dog.
So the number one thing is really being very vigilant

(44:41):
about brushing. Now, admittedly I admit I don't brush my
dogs all that much. I use the tool you're using,
which is the pool filter.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 18 (44:57):
Swim mine done, said that Wilder's usually sat all the time.
She swims great, but she leaves a path and our
filters are completely filled of hair all the time.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (45:10):
So yeah, if you're not doing any brushing, we have
to find a way to get that hair out.

Speaker 18 (45:14):
Now.

Speaker 12 (45:15):
I laugh, because you know, I'm somewhat lazy when it
comes to my pets. You know, brush and upkeep, but
they do shed a lot of hair in the pool
when they swim, so you can burn out your filters
in your pool, or you can really get very vigilant
about getting on a daily process of doing some brushing.
And if she's got some of the rotis have kind
of a thicker coat, so you may need more something

(45:35):
a little bit more durable, something like a ferminator to
get down into that deeper part of the coat. But
that's really gonna be the best thing I can tell
you as far as doing daily brushing for this kid.
Sometimes even just doing you said, hosing her off, but
doing a regular bath where you're shampooing her and you're
rinsing her off, that's removing a lot of that bulk

(45:56):
or that loose hair that's in that phase of hair
loss where it's ready to come out.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
So we just got to get that out in a
regular pattern.

Speaker 12 (46:03):
If if we don't do that, then yeah, she's just
gonna just hair's gonna fall off of her when you
touch her.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
It's just gonna come off in one big sheet. So
you're gonna have a lot of that to deal with.

Speaker 12 (46:12):
Now that being said, there are definitely some things that
you can try. Now A diet change. Yeah, I like
that idea. Generally, it's not something there's a quick fix for.
So I try to give that maybe four weeks to
eight weeks to really see how that reflects on the
pet's hair coat, because it does take that long until
we get new hair growth in. The Other thing would be,

(46:34):
you know, making sure she's you know, in good sound health.
Some pets we look at things like thyroid disorders that
can cause excessive hair loss.

Speaker 18 (46:43):
Usually we get first, that's not that's not very healthy,
that's that's not a problem at all, and show me
eats the rice and lamb meal. I don't give her
any corn. I mean, she she's very healthy, very agile.
But the problem is it's just the hair is it's
just I mean, and I've never noticed it before in

(47:03):
the four years that we've had her, I've never noticed
that the hair falling out. Prior to getting here, I
did a lot of checking on rock Wailer's I've only
had huskies, and those I'm familiar with the hair, and
that's not a problem. My gosh, that you can just
rake up. It's actually really fluffy and it's easy to clean.
But the rock Whiler has short black wiry hair and

(47:23):
it's very difficult to clean. And it's everywhere, I mean
just everywhere, totally different.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's certainly no inline.

Speaker 18 (47:31):
Does to say that, you know, people have a problem
with that particular breed shedding. So any of the people
that are out there that are thinking about getting a
rock waller, be ready for hair because there's a lot
ye warning for you. So that's about it.

Speaker 19 (47:44):
It's just brush or.

Speaker 8 (47:45):
Daily pressure daily.

Speaker 12 (47:47):
Yeah, And I mean there's a lot of supplements out there.
I am a fan of using things like fatty acids
if the hair coats in bad quality or worried about
you know, things like allergies. But the honest truth, and
you know, people will sell you millions of products, spending
lots of money on these kind of products. But really
brushing is the number one thing to do, and it's
just we don't like to do it because it takes time.

(48:09):
We want that easy fix and we want something that's
going to be you know the problem.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
So if she's in good health, her thigh rate is good.

Speaker 12 (48:15):
We don't have allergies, we don't have fleas, we don't
have internal parasites.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
Those are the things.

Speaker 12 (48:19):
That I kind of check for in a physical exam
if we're talking about excessive hair loss.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
So sorry to give you the bad news there.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Well, all right, don't shoot the messenger. Thanks Robert, we
appreciate you call.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
A great story just came out of San Antonio, Texas
and the North Side Independent School District. If you look
in their yearbook this year, on page sixteen, you'll see
little Rachel Benke, a little blonde haired girl, and next
to her Taxi Bankie, her dog the yearbook. In the
yearbook for the last four years, Taxi has been right
by Rachel Benke's side, paving the way hopefully for more

(48:54):
future service dogs in the North Side Independent School District.
Rachel she has epileptic seizures, she has since birth, and
she's had two brain surgeries, one when she was six
years old, and she's shown improvement since then. They figured,
why not get her a dog that might help her
kind of be by her side. So four years ago
they met Taxi, who's a half lab and a half

(49:15):
Golden Retriever. He was supposed to be the guide dog,
but he became a guide dog dropout. He couldn't pass
school because because he has cat destruction problems. Is this
story when they first met. Actually Rachel was afraid of dogs,
but when they first met, not fifteen minutes later, they
became friends for life.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I guess it will be from here on out. The
dog goes everywhere with her.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Accepting awards at school, celebrating birthdays, even on the school
track where one day he sprung into action just before
she was about to have.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
A grandma seizure. So kind of interesting.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
He was not actually trained for that, but she he
popped into action when she was about that one of
her seizures.

Speaker 9 (49:54):
And they let the dog have a picture in a yearbook.
I think that is so awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
They're wonderful.

Speaker 8 (50:01):
Wow do they style his hair? Do you weeah?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Do you have to wear a gown or cap or
a suit or.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Let's post this picture off the website.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Yes, awesome?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
What was that?

Speaker 7 (50:13):
What happens when women get involved? You know, they want
to put a boat tie on the dog. They want
to I want to put ribbons in his hand.

Speaker 9 (50:19):
Now I'm talking about you know, there's certain things that
you have to dress when you have your yearbook picture
take and.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
You do it has to be uniforms.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Brush them and leave them be a dog, let them alone.
Get away.

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Speaker 7 (50:59):
Hi, it's allan cable, and it's no secret that our
dog friends have transformed so many lives. They use loneliness,
make you laugh, get you out on new adventures, and
help you meet people. They've even helped folks with depression
and loss. They can sniff out explosives and even disease.
When it comes down to it, dogs create more magic
than David Copperfield. Doesn't your dog deserve the best life
possible for all the magic he or she gives you?

(51:21):
Of course they do. But how do you do it?
Is it by feeding your dog the best filet Mignon
or letting them have free run of the house? Do
we repair dogs by letting them sleep in bed with us?
I think you know where this is going, right. You
want to give your dog the best life? Possible by
educating yourself so that you can educate your dog. You know,
puppies learn quick. They may learn that grabbing your clothes
and shoes results in a real fun game of you

(51:43):
chasing them or playing tug of war. They also learned
that whining and barking gets them lots of attention from you.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Let in, let out.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
And then they learn that taking little chunks out of
your hand or ankles with those sharp teeth produces super
fun noise. This is the exact opposite of what you
want them to learn, though, isn't it. Being in charge
from the very start of your puppy is better for
both of you, teaching him to sit and let go,
redirecting his behavior, teaching him not to bite you, but
only toys, Making sure that when you train him, you

(52:10):
set them up for success and make it a lot
of fun, so that your puppy grows up seeing training
is the funnest game ever. And then in the house,
you teach your puppy that calm behavior is the right
behavior and that the yard of the park is the
place for play. Don't get them revved up, save that
for outside. Then make sure you take your puppy around
as many people to as many places around as many
other dogs as you can. Take them everywhere you can parks,

(52:33):
baseball game, shopping centers. Let them see and watch all
kinds of people and dogs. Introduce him to the vacuum cleaner,
the lawnmower. And when your puppy gets scared, don't say anything.
Don't say it's okay. That just reinforces the fear. Just
remove him from the situation or give him a treat,
redirect him. He'll get over the fear quickly when he
associates it with something fun or pleasurable. So get a plan,

(52:55):
get the education, and then get yourself a dog. And remember,
good dog.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Do you travel with your dog?

Speaker 25 (53:02):
Of course, my pets are part of our family.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Me too.

Speaker 9 (53:06):
I take Daisy with me everywhere, right, Daisy, So how
do you find out what hotels welcome your dog?

Speaker 25 (53:11):
I read Fido Friendly, the traveling lifestyle magazine for you
and your dog.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Sounds perfect for planning our next vacation. Rite Daisy.

Speaker 25 (53:18):
It is deren motto is leave no dog behind and
they have great hotel and destination reviews.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Where can I find the magazine?

Speaker 25 (53:25):
Go online to fighto friendly dot com.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
I will for sure, come on, Daisy, We're off to
find our next adventure.

Speaker 20 (53:32):
Hey y'all, it's Pleasa Matassa and you're listening to Animal Radio.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Pj's always love a smooth segue. And I just realized
we were talking about this seventh grader and her dog, Taxi,
and how how Taxi got in the yearbook this year
and follows Rachel around to kind of give her a
warning when she's going to have a grandma seizure or
an epileptic seizure. But this kind of ties in nicely.

(54:08):
Pets in the classroom again, something we were talking about earlier,
seems to be an amazing thing. It allows kids to
learn faster and be more compassionate to the animals at home.
In fact, there's research of studies that we just did
a couple of weeks ago that they actually learn more,
they're more relaxed and comfortable environment anyway.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
And I think it's increasing actual pet ownership in the home.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
It is, and I believe by one third. And we
have Brett Windan on the phone with us.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
He is with the Pet Care Trust. He is actually
the president, top dog over the Pet Care Trust.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
I don't know all about it. I'm going to ask him,
what is the Pet Care Trust? Welcome to the show, Well.

Speaker 26 (54:45):
Thank you for having me. Yeah, pet Care Trust. We're
an organization that was started about twenty years ago through
contributions from companies within the pet industry. Basically, our mission
is a time we were founded, is to figure out
how we can introduce more people to pets and the
joys of pet ownership and make sure it's done in

(55:07):
a responsible way.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
And one of the programs is to bring these pets
into the classroom or get the animals into the classroom.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Is that correct?

Speaker 26 (55:15):
Exactly? In fact, that's really been our focus. As you
can imagine, there's so many different opportunities for a nonprofit
to fund, help fund, you know, initiatives that we worked
throughout the course of the Trust. We worked with nursing homes,
and we worked on you know, studies for pet health,

(55:35):
et cetera. And then finally we said we need to
focus and what a better thing to focus on than
kids and pets in the classroom.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Is it easy to get the pets into the classroom
or did or was it like a lot of bureaucracy
or did the schools open their doors to you or
do they were they cautious.

Speaker 26 (55:52):
It's it's all over the board. Really, it's the responsibility
of the teacher to check things out with their the administration.

Speaker 23 (56:01):
UH.

Speaker 26 (56:01):
And basically what we do is we make grants available
either directly through the trust where we also cooperate with
large national retailers such as Petco, Pet Smart Pet Supplies Plus,
et cetera, to help facilitate getting these pets into the classroom.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
What what costs are associated with it for the teacher.

Speaker 26 (56:25):
We try to minimize costs as much as possible because,
as you probably know, these types of things usually come
out of the teacher's pockets. So what we do is
we will fund the cost of the cage, set up,
the cost of you know, initial food purchase, you know, decorations, toys, treats,

(56:46):
et cetera, betting materials, you know, depends on the type
of pets that's chosen, but the teacher and then then
we will also fund part of the animal so the
teacher does have something in the game, in other words,
putting some money out. They're not getting a free animal.
We want them to have some commitment to the care
and well being of the animals. But we work with

(57:09):
either the retailer or directly with the teacher to bring
the cost of that pet down.

Speaker 9 (57:15):
Where do these animals come from and who decides what
animals they're going to have in the classroom.

Speaker 26 (57:21):
Well, the different retailers that we work with, such as
once Again, Pecko or pet Smart. I'll use those two
as an example, since they're really the biggest companies that
they get the most pets into the classroom. They have
a list of pets that they're vets, along with the
Pecker Trust, have deemed sort of appropriate for most classrooms,

(57:42):
and from that list, the teacher can either pick whichever
one he or she wants to introduce to the classroom,
or we've had great stories of how they've done little
field trips to or online research. The class has to
figure out what type of pet would be best, and

(58:03):
then they do a vote and the kids really decide
what they want in the classroom.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
Cool.

Speaker 12 (58:09):
Now, When I was a kid, I was in grade school,
one of my great joys was taking care of the
classroom pats because I actually didn't have any pets as
a kid until I was a little bit older, and
so on the summer I got to bring home the
hamsters and that was kind of the way it broke
my parents into getting pets.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
So is that what these kids are going to be
doing come in summer time here?

Speaker 26 (58:27):
That's exactly what happens.

Speaker 19 (58:28):
You know.

Speaker 26 (58:29):
It's sort of runs the gamut. Sometimes the teachers take
them home, maybe they have their own kids at home
they want to take care of it, or maybe the
teachers become attached to it and they want to take
care of it. But more times than not, we find
that they organize something with two or three kids from
the classroom that you know, I have expressed a strong
interest in a strong shown with strong commitments to the

(58:51):
care of the animal, and they'll, as you experienced, let
the kids take them home for the summer.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
This is nothing new because I remember as that was
the same thing, and we were just talking about this
about twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Ago, how well Joey said that he wouldn't take the animals.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Home on that his mother wouldn't let and my mom.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Would let me either because she was afraid Monday morning
she would have to replace an animal or something like that.
So this has been something that's been going on frages
right now with hamsters and guinea pigs and fish and
smaller animals. Are there any bigger animals like dogs going
into the classroom?

Speaker 26 (59:26):
There are, but not through our program. You know, typically
those type programs would be sort of not a full
time pet in the classroom, but someone maybe a local
animal shelter or a dog training organization, would bring the
pet in kind of as a show.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And tell the website www. Dot Pets in the Classroom
dot org if you want to learn more about the
PetCare Trust and Brent Wyman and what they're doing.

Speaker 26 (59:51):
I appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 12 (59:53):
I actually trained my classroom pet, hamster, I mean Ladylock.
I trained her, as just a little weed kid, how
to do summersalts.

Speaker 8 (01:00:02):
Really, that's cool, Yes, from her pencil.

Speaker 12 (01:00:04):
I would hold a pencil up and she would do
a little summr salt in the Nikey Real treat.

Speaker 8 (01:00:08):
And I was really I was a puthet a kid.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Okay, are you sure the hamster didn't train you to
hold a pencil up?

Speaker 8 (01:00:15):
No, I am positive.

Speaker 12 (01:00:16):
Up. And I also taught my fish, Murgatroid, how to
follow my finger.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
Yeah, that was his name, like heavens to Mugatroid.

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Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Portions of today's show are a repeat from an earlier broadcast.

Speaker 21 (01:01:06):
This is an Animal Radio News update.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
I'm Jammy Trio.

Speaker 26 (01:01:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Just a couple of weeks back, both Petco and pet
Smart said they would stop selling pet treats made in China.
For the past seven years, dogs and cats have been
getting sick, and many have actually died after eating imported
chicken and jerky treats. Well now a Parina PetCare and
wagon Train have set up a six point five million
dollar fund to compensate pet guardians whose animals suffered or

(01:01:32):
died now. The settlement doesn't admit fault, but it does
open the door to damage claims for vet bills or
for the loss of the pets. It also requires Nestle
Parina to adopt what are being called enhanced quality assurance measures,
not exactly sure what those are, but also to change
the wording on their packages. The deal still needs to
be approved by the courts, but if it is, it

(01:01:52):
would help settle claims related to Wagon Train and Canyon
Creek Ranch dog treats well. To anybody with a puppy
of the word parva is horrifying.

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
It's most often a death sentence, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Now researchers may have literally stumbled onto a way to
treat it. This happened when a company called Antiaks in
North Dakota was looking for a way to say flocks
of geese that worm seriously dying. They discovered there's an
antibody that harvested rather from the yokes of geese eggs,
that can stop the parvo virus in as little as
two days. Avinax is still running tests hopes to start

(01:02:25):
selling the parvo one antibody based treatment for seventy five
dollars a dose by next spring. Might sound high, but
it's a lot less than most people spend trying to
deal with parvo. And if you have a dog or
a cat, chances are here. She sleeps with you in bed,
of course, right, But new research says that sharing your
bed with your pet can lead to very bad sleep quality. Recently,

(01:02:46):
at the twenty eighth annual meeting of the Associated Professional
Sleep Societies, Yeah, there is one. Data was prevented that
represented rather that showed at least thirty percent of fed
owners say their pets wake them up at least once
per night. Doctors who treats problems are now being urged
to ask patients right from the start if they have
pets and if they sleep together, and they are now
calling animals a hidden factor behind insomnia. I'm Tammy Trio.

(01:03:11):
Get more breaking animal news anytime at Animal radio dot com.

Speaker 21 (01:03:16):
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Speaker 24 (01:03:28):
Hi, this is Paul Rodgers and Cynthia Rodgers on Animal Radio.
Just know that it's going to be alright.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Mew live at the Redbarn Studios. You're listening to Animal Radio.
Here's Hal and Judy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
I love this segment. I gotta tell you, I get
a lot of emails during the week. This is the
one segment that people are talking about and it's great
because we are celebrating anybody that is doing something for
the animals. It could be their own animal. For instance,
we had the young lady who had created a bucket
list for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Her dying dog.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
It could be someone that does things for lots of animals,
like the guy who transports those animals from Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
To New York. Whoever they are.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
And if you know somebody like this, nominate them. Send
us an email. Your voice at animal radio dot com.
Your voice at animal radio dot com. Today's Hero Kitty
Martin joined this. Hi Kitty, how are you doing?

Speaker 23 (01:04:28):
I'm great?

Speaker 24 (01:04:29):
How are you folks?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Good? Where are we calling you today?

Speaker 23 (01:04:31):
I'm in Cameron, Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And you have a calf which is a cow, right,
just a young cow, and that he's a steer. That
means male, right, male cow? Is that correct? Neutered male,
neutered cow? Okay, what's his name?

Speaker 23 (01:04:46):
His name is Hero.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Hero apparently lost portions of his back legs. Is that correct?
Tell us what happened? Give us the story.

Speaker 23 (01:04:53):
Actually, I had a small animal rescue. I was private
at that point, and somebody called me about a calf
that had froze to the ground and lost to back
hooks and part of his tail to frostbite and could
I possibly help. And I had never seen anything as
horrible as I had seen in this case, and we

(01:05:14):
picked him up. Didn't know what we were going to do,
and wound up doing some research and found out that
this had been done before for another cow named Meadow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
So when you said this has been done before, I
don't know what this is.

Speaker 23 (01:05:27):
Surgery was done for Hero. They went in and took
two inches of bone up and brought the tendons around
and made like a cat stump for him. And he's
been fitted with prosthetics. He's actually on his third.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Set prosthetics, so he has fake back legs.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Yes, a cow, a cow cow normally I would imagine
a cow in this particular situation would be euthanized.

Speaker 23 (01:05:50):
Absolutely. And actually, this has been a very controversial pursuit
we have done. It has attracted some of the world's
worst and some of the world's best towards us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Oh, really, like, what what are some of the worst?

Speaker 14 (01:06:04):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:06:04):
We've been tormented from a group that targets people on Facebook.
I call them haters. They've contacted everybody in my life
anything to do with us. They've stalked us, they've cyber
stocked us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Well, what's why why?

Speaker 14 (01:06:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 23 (01:06:22):
I really don't if I could answer that. It's been
a year of that. I have no idea what fuels
people like that. But like I said, on the other hand,
I've had the pleasure of dealing with some of the
most amazing people too that overrides them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Well, you know what, I don't know. If you've been
told this, you're our hero this week. Yeah, absolutely, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
We think what you did was amazing and it cost
you a pretty penny to it. It looks like about
forty thousand dollars to do this is here.

Speaker 23 (01:06:47):
I'm in debt more than that. Oh my gosh. Some
donations were raised that have gone towards some of the bills. Unfortunately,
with the haters that dried up. My husband and I
are probably in all the way to our grandchildren over this.
But I'm so far into this and attached to this calf.
I couldn't let him go now if I tried, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
He was a pet before this or.

Speaker 23 (01:07:10):
No, you no, like he was his mama from what
I understand, rejected him at first. The farmer sold him
to somebody that thought they could raise the baby calf
on a bottle and it's more entailed, obviously than what
he did. The calf got weak, he couldn't get up
off the ground. And we had four days of bad
weather in April of last year and he froze to

(01:07:30):
the ground. So he kind of had it rough and
get go. And that's why I've been swinging for him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Well you so you were the one that newtered him.

Speaker 23 (01:07:38):
No, he actually came from the farmer that way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
That's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Why is that? What are cows generally? Was this a
milk cow like a whole state and.

Speaker 23 (01:07:47):
This No, he's a beef cow. Generally they have one
bull farmers do and they cast right the rest. They're
raised for beef.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Oh I did not know that there. Okay, so where
is he now?

Speaker 23 (01:07:57):
He is in on my farm, which we are just
purchased a new place in Cameron. He has his little area.
He can do everything that they said he could not do,
which is awesome. And I knew that they said he
had never run. He runs, never could kick out, He
kicks out, he plays games, he's he's he's amazing. I

(01:08:18):
can't explain everything he can do, but it's all the
things they said he had never do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
I like the cow spotted back legs. I think they're
so cute.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
The prosthetics.

Speaker 23 (01:08:29):
The Hangar Clinic that did these are amazing. They're I
don't know, if you researched him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
You might want to tell us about him.

Speaker 23 (01:08:38):
Very very first prosthetic maker ever from clear back in
the Civil War. The man and mister Hanger lost his
leg first one in that war, and he created the
Hangar Corporation back then and they're still going strong. They're
the ones who did the ones for Dalton Hill. I
don't know if he knew.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Wow, yeah, remember that.

Speaker 23 (01:09:00):
They're just amazing people in this particular clinic and Uston
caters towards customizing him fact, you know, making it less obvious,
personalizing them and stuff, and they came up with the
idea of the cow spots. I thought it was incredible.
I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
Now, will he need a new set as he grows?

Speaker 23 (01:09:19):
These are actually pretty high tech and the answers yes,
but not for a while. They're adjustable in width and
in heights. He will probably need three to four more
sets in his entirety.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
And I understand you're thinking about making him a therapy
animal for wounded veterans and special needs children.

Speaker 23 (01:09:35):
I would love to. We've been trying to open doors
for that. I don't know how to get him into that.
His nature is so sweet, he doesn't have a mean
bone in his body. I've had him since he was
fifty pounds a couple months old, and he's very socialized,
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my husband and children and I want to give back,
and I think Hero would be a great force in
that because he is so calm and if an animal
can go through his story, he's almost died a million
times over and he bounces back, so to be able
to fight like that, I think it would be an inspiration.
And then of course our children that lose lens. You know,
there's not a whole lot there for these guys.

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It is amazing what you all are doing, and of
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I salute you for what you've done. I don't know
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you're my hero for the week. Thank you so much
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Well, thank you so much.

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were three four fifty nineteen Animal Radio Baby Jim, Hey Jim,
how you doing?

Speaker 20 (01:13:06):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:13:06):
Very good?

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
What's going on in your world?

Speaker 14 (01:13:09):
Well? Two things I wanted to say that you never
mentioned before, but I'm sure you'll agree with. When I
was younger, it's actually about the late twenties. I had
this spot in my living room that was a little bear,
and I got the idea, you know what would be
good there a parent, So I went out and bought
a cockatoo, thinking I'd get a nice cage, put a

(01:13:30):
pretty parrot in it, and it'd be a good decoration.

Speaker 13 (01:13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:13:33):
Boy, did I learn a lesson. I bet man the
attention those things need that I learned over the years,
And I bet there's still a lot of people who
don't realize, especially a cockatoo.

Speaker 18 (01:13:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
And they'll outlive you too, won't they.

Speaker 14 (01:13:49):
Yeah. And it's like having a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
If they don't go to college.

Speaker 14 (01:13:52):
I don't want to be with you all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
At least with the kid, they have a chance of
going off and becoming like a football player or Rocks
star and support.

Speaker 14 (01:14:02):
Yeah. Have you ever heard of any suggestions to help
with the cockatoo as far as the screaming goes?

Speaker 8 (01:14:09):
Oh yeah, Oh definitely.

Speaker 12 (01:14:11):
And Jim, I'm gonna I'm gonna chide you on this,
because a new lamp fills the space.

Speaker 8 (01:14:16):
In your house, but the pet does not. Exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:14:23):
As far as birds, birds are some of the most
needy pets out there.

Speaker 8 (01:14:28):
You know, there are flock animals. They're social creatures. And
if you were to.

Speaker 12 (01:14:32):
Come into my office and say, hey, Doc, I want
to get a first bird for me, what species would
you pick? I would certainly not say a cockatoo unless
you had a lot of time to spend, because these guys,
they do they are like we call them toddlers because
they do require constant attention and they really need a
lot of social stimulation or they'll turn into little demon screaming,

(01:14:54):
picking their feathers out till they look like a pluck chicken.
And so they really are not good starter birds to
start with. A little bird, little parakeet or a cocka
deal might be the better beginner bird for someone, yea.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Lesson doctor.

Speaker 14 (01:15:11):
Just like you said, he started picking the feathers and everything.

Speaker 12 (01:15:15):
Yeah, well, and I'm not trying to, you know, make
him feel bad. But for other people that may be
considering birds, we want to learn from, you know, other
folks mistakes. So you know, definitely, now screaming is it's
a hard thing as far as in a.

Speaker 8 (01:15:28):
Parrot to correct. The better way we can deal with
us is to prevent it.

Speaker 12 (01:15:32):
So that's gonna be a lot of making sure we've
picked the right bird for our household and that we're
providing the right stimulation. But to correct this, you know,
we have to look at what is triggering the bird
to vocalize and when they're screaming. You know, some birds
are going to scream no matter what, a couple times
of the day. That's kind of a natural bird behavior.
We're not going to stop this completely. The thing is
to find out what the bird is motivated, what is

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causing them to scream.

Speaker 14 (01:15:56):
And this can be it's as long as work in
the room and the bird. But we walk out of
the room, he sayings, hey, you get back in here.

Speaker 12 (01:16:06):
So you know, he's just in bird language what he's doing,
and he's saying, hey, where you're going a lot of
times when birds scream and vocalize excessively, the human instinct.

Speaker 8 (01:16:16):
Is shut up, wow.

Speaker 12 (01:16:18):
Now't know that and you are actually responding in a
way that actually.

Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
Rewards that behavior.

Speaker 12 (01:16:23):
If you do that, there's any attention that you give
a bird that screams in the situation, you're actually just
feeding that behavior. They're happy you're just acknowledging them. They
don't really care what you're saying or your tone where
it's loud or quiet. So the real big thing there
is we need to work on a lot of things environmentally.
So a lot of times birds will do this kind

(01:16:44):
of thing also because they're bored and they don't have
a lot of other stimulations, so there may.

Speaker 8 (01:16:48):
Be some changes we do in the cage.

Speaker 12 (01:16:50):
There's a wonderful feeding method called forage feeding, where we
eq away the food bulls and we teach the bird
how to forage again like they do in the wild,
where they pick up the food from the and it
actually gives them something to do, so they don't just
sit in a cage and wait for us to entertain them.
So that's one incorporation I like to do for a
lot of different behavior problems for birds. But we need

(01:17:12):
to do just like with dogs that excessively bark, is
we have to find those opportunities when when the bird
is quiet to reward her, and we reward with attention.
We speak to her, maybe give a food trait. And
the trick is when we are vocalizing and screaming inappropriately
when we don't want that behavior, you don't pay any attention,

(01:17:32):
you don't make eye contact, you don't roll your eyes,
you don't sigh, you don't yell at the bird, you
can't even acknowledge it, because any of that is actually
feeding that And it actually can be very helpful for
birds that scream if we teach them something else to
do besides screaming. So I have some clients that don't
like the birds whistling, but it is something that can

(01:17:52):
take the place of that screaming behavior. So you start
whistling and teaching them adity. If they talk, that's an
allternate behavior.

Speaker 8 (01:18:00):
They can't do all.

Speaker 12 (01:18:01):
Their screaming screaming, So we really work on that and
try to get that together.

Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
And you know, this is something that it can be daunting.

Speaker 12 (01:18:09):
It can be more daunting to deal with the bird screaming,
I think than a barking dog, because you know some
species there, you know Kanye's literally hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I bet, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Well, so the lesson here is is, if there's a
bare spot in your living room, perhaps not a cockatoo,
is is the.

Speaker 14 (01:18:30):
No, don't don't think you're gift getting something that's going
to be simple at all. It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Okay, Jim, thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (01:18:38):
Good luck with that. It's amazing how similar the bird
is to to dogs. It's pretty it's a lot of
a lot of similar it is.

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
It's all about attention. You know, our pets just want
to be with us.

Speaker 7 (01:18:48):
And you know you're smart, doctor Debbie. You're so smart.

Speaker 8 (01:18:50):
Oh you always is this Doctor Debbie time? Can I hear?

Speaker 7 (01:18:53):
It is? And you're really smart?

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You know, a colleague of mine had said that, you know,
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I approached it is. Really, you know, what am I
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How would I tell my friend who's thinking of getting
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