Shooting Your Pet's Remains Into Space

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Valani, news director
Laurie Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios. Here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
On the show today. Justin Silver is back. He was
on what a year ago? He had a television show
on CBO.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, I was on CBS side.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Don't remember the name of it.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hold on, I know I have it right.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It doesn't really much matter. It's gone. It was canceled.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
But he's back. He has a brand new book showing
that he fell off the horse and he's getting right
back on. Good for him, and he'll be on with
us in just a couple of minutes right here on
Animal Radio, Tammy, what are you working on? We're there
in the newsroom.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
I've got one of the coolest stories of all time
about a dog whose family didn't want her, took her
to the shelter, she got adopted.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
She walked thirty miles back to the family they didn't
want her.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Oh who didn't want her again, and dumped at the
shelter but this is where the story turns, and this
turns out to be the luckiest dog I think in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Now, oh wow, I can't wait to hear that story. Yeah,
the guy we're having on for a Hero of the
week tells us there's a little known but very moving
statistic that dog and cat owners only keep their animals
for about two and a half years on average.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know people that every time I.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Meet them or you know, that's the statistic that is.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I've seen people say, what happened to your dog? Who
is this new dog? And it's just like a couple
of years later, it's just get bored and tired of them,
and like a car, yeah, exactly, trading for a younger
model of a car they do different, different model.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Or a wife trading it in for a younger wife. Yeah,
there's no.

Speaker 7 (01:41):
But you know what they usually they end up usually
doing better if you get rid of them.

Speaker 8 (01:46):
You know, the pets, the pets sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, okay, well we'll talk to this guy. He's our
hero of the week. Leo Grillo.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I think it's Greo. We'll butcher it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm sure we will. That's on the way right now
for that animal. Ready, Hey, if we don't mess up
your name. You ain't nobody.

Speaker 8 (02:01):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Let's see, let's go to the phones. Hi, Landy, where
are you calling from today?

Speaker 9 (02:07):
I'm in Central California, San luisibis book.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Oh, probably listening on KVC in Sant Louis, your hometown station.
How can we help you today?

Speaker 9 (02:17):
Well, I have a problem with my other cat. We
I say we because I'm grieving too. We lost our
little buddy kitty cat about a month ago and they
were very close. And when I was very close to
her and she I think I can cats grief so long.

(02:42):
It's been about a month and she just won't. She
hardly eats, and I still am. I mean, I really
missed her, and I think and I think hope does too,
And I don't know what to do, how to how
to you know, get her over this?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And she's eaving.

Speaker 10 (03:05):
So and how old was your kitty that you lost?

Speaker 9 (03:09):
She was almost six?

Speaker 10 (03:12):
And wow, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (03:15):
Well, I'm so sorry for your loss. That's that's hard.
And you just have the one other.

Speaker 9 (03:20):
Kitty, yes, that was her has she has sister and.

Speaker 10 (03:26):
She was how old?

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (03:28):
So she's about fifteen?

Speaker 11 (03:29):
Then?

Speaker 10 (03:29):
Okay, Yes, Okay, well, and answer to your question, absolutely,
dogs and cats, definitely you can go through a grieving process,
and it really there really is no set time. I've
had patients that maybe just a few weeks. On the
longer side of a month and a half, I had
a dog that was grieving the loss of its housemate.

(03:51):
So I mean, the typical signs that we can see
are going to be kind of moping around, changes an
appetite or you know, stopping eating altogether, not wanting to play,
kind of staring off in space. And then even some
will just vocalize and just kind of wander about. So
any of those things death she does. Okay. The only

(04:16):
other concern I have is in a cat, especially of
fifteen years of age. Those signs can also be significant
with other health conditions. And just like you know families,
when there's a you know, an older couple and the
spouse passes away and the other spouse passes very soon afterwards,
in some cases, when we have one pet pass in

(04:39):
the home, it's not that the other pet necessarily develops
a disease all of a sudden, but they may decompensate.
So if we have borderline kidney problems, or maybe see
diabetes on the forefront. Those things might come to the
surface when we have stress change in household routines. So
I would first and foremost encourage you to get your
kiddy to a veterinarian four full health exam. Make sure

(05:01):
there's nothing going on that the veterinarian feels needs to
be dealt with. That might mean doing a little bit
of lab work to kind of check things out. But
for me, cats when they stop eating, it is a
big red flag. Just eating a little less than normal
or not eating as much isn't so concerning. But cats
can develop a very serious liver problem called hepatic lipidosis,

(05:23):
and this can occur within really just the shortest three
days of not eating anything. So it is very important
that when we have a cat that doesn't eat for
that time period, you go see the vet no matter what,
because we have to get nutrition in or we can
develop this kind of liver problem just as a consequence
of not eating, no matter even if we were healthy beforehand.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
So she does a tiny I mean she eats a
little bit. She hasn't stopped eating completely. Because you know,
I've bought her some baby food. She will look at that.

Speaker 10 (05:58):
Yeah, and so canned food and sometimes you know, tune
a juice, I'll pull that out. So I'm going to
assume your kitty is healthy, but again, please make sure
you do have her evaluated by a vet. But some
other things that you might just look at is that
you know, you admit it and you're mourning yourself. So
part of what you need to do is you need
to be the strong individual in the home and make

(06:20):
sure you have a set schedule for her. Stay with
those household routines, and then whatever thing she particularly enjoys,
whether it's cat and nip, food, petting, and grooming, give
her that time and schedule time to do those behaviors
and make sure you try to focus on those positives.

(06:41):
When we have a dog or a cat that's sad, mourning,
acting fearful, we don't want to reward that. But we
still in your situation, you still want to provide her
those things that she enjoys, So as long as it
doesn't you're not rewarding that kind of sad or depressive
behavior than those things I want you to do. Though,

(07:01):
if we had to pull out some you know, different therapies,
I have had some morning pets that we'd have to
do fluid therapy for a day or two, or even
appetite stimulants. So hopefully we don't have to go into that.
But I think a lot of the environmental support, and
you know, I always like to throw in things like
pheromones which can be a good natural solution when we

(07:23):
have an anxious or nervous pet or something emotionally going on,
and those are available in sprays or diffusers you go
about the house and just can kind of help their
mood and help them feel a little bit more settled.

Speaker 9 (07:36):
Now or would you get that or how would I
know what kind of thermal shape?

Speaker 10 (07:42):
Well, it's it's a kidty pheromone and it's pretty much
one type of standard one that's used. You can get
that at either veterinary offices or pet stores and they
really kind of look like those air freshener plug ins
that you can get or a little pump spray are
the most common forms. There's also a little wipes that
we'll use almost like a baby wipe that you can

(08:03):
wipe on the cat, and that's another form for that
as well. But a lot of it is really lenie.
It's just you know, being there being supportive and you know,
finding those things that give your existing kitty enjoyment and pleasure.
And it takes time.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yeah for me too. I still miss my little angel.
She was I've never had a cat like her, and
she's just I really miss her too, really missed her.

Speaker 10 (08:37):
Our hearts go out to you here and hope you
and your other kitty can find some peace and move
forward and remember your angel with fondness for all those
years you had her.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
Yeah, okay, well, thank you very much, and I'll try
those things that you mentioned switches with you.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I know you mentioned this. I'm just going to mention
it one more time. Animals, especially our dogs, are so
sensitive to our feelings. They're looking for Judy. Ladybug is
like a You're a specimen to her. She's looking at
every angle of you and every which whatever you want to do.
So if you're in a bad mood, she's in a bad.

Speaker 7 (09:17):
Mood, is the same way, exactly, exactly, Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 10 (09:23):
It's it's just the body language, it's your tone of voice,
and you can just talking to her, you can hear
her pain. So I am certain her cat is picking
up on that, and it's hard to fake it. But
sometimes you know, you have to just like for if
you have children, you know, it's it's finding that positive
memory and using that to take care of that existing kiddy.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, it's not that we're saying, don't grieve. We're just saying,
in front of the animal, maybe put on a little facade, put.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
On a happy face. Yes, the rest of the words.

Speaker 10 (09:55):
Of the song, I don't want to hear it. So
you knew doctor Darius, you know he's filled in for
me on the radio show.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (10:06):
Yeah, So he's been out of town for a little
bit and he's left his few of his parents here
in the office.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
So yeah, personal parents.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
Parents, He's got oodles of them, but yeah, some of
them have a couple of medical problems, so they were
just under our watchful eye. And so I've teamed up
and I've got the staff trying to teach him. Teach
the bird bad words. He already cusses, so we can't
teach him that, but I want to teach him things
like doctor Stark's appointment in room too.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh something, don't fool him. Oh that's that's genius there.

Speaker 10 (10:36):
So he'll be like just you know, frustrated at home
when he thinks like someone's calling him to an exam room.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, now, how long do you have to train? A week?

Speaker 10 (10:42):
You have, Yeah, we've got like four days. But he's
very bright, so I'm hoping that he's going to pick
up on things and uh and uh yeah, so we've
been teaching them all sorts of things. Uh, you know
doctor Stark's phone call.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well, let's let us know how that goes. Of course
we know parents and also is a cockatoos that speak
to they have they've broken up bridges, they've tipped off burglars,
they've all as soon as they open their mouths, you know,
you never know what they're going to say.

Speaker 10 (11:05):
So let that be a.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Tip to you. Never board your bird at the best.

Speaker 10 (11:09):
Yes, yeah, we've had some go home saying kennel and
then there's the phone ringing and of course you know
the different hospital sounds.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
They'll go home.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Making or making the sounds of what the dog barking
or the cat? What was the one bird that we
saw that was messing with the dog.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
A lot of yeah, they go here here kitty kitty, yeah,
kitty kitty.

Speaker 12 (11:36):
Funny.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, well, let us know how that goes, will you not?

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Right?

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Sure?

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right now. Let's see. Let's head to John. Hey, John,
how are you doing?

Speaker 17 (14:11):
Hi?

Speaker 14 (14:12):
Hi?

Speaker 18 (14:12):
This is John.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Where are you calling from?

Speaker 8 (14:14):
John?

Speaker 18 (14:15):
And I love California? On town south of It?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Okay, Well, let's uh, let's hook you up here with
the doc. Is that what you do there?

Speaker 12 (14:24):
Hi?

Speaker 10 (14:24):
So what you got going on?

Speaker 18 (14:26):
I get a little puppy six months old and just
net your poodle, and she's sweet as can be. We're
worried about freeing our ice cream. I don't knowning about
that sort of thing.

Speaker 10 (14:34):
Okay, you're worried about it? Is she currently eating ice cream?

Speaker 18 (14:38):
And we fear your dog once in a while.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
Okay, So you're looking to ask me for permission to
give your dog ice cream?

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Is that right?

Speaker 17 (14:48):
Well?

Speaker 10 (14:48):
It depends. There are certainly dogs that are have very
sensitive stomachs and veering from their regular diet can upset
their system. The interesting thing that people need to recognize
is that dogs and can that's a good majority of them,
are actually lactose intolerant. So that's something to think about
when we start offering them different dairy products that that

(15:09):
can cause some dietary upset. And it may not be
a life threatening illness, but you know, we might talk
about excess gas, soft stools, maybe some vomiting. As a child,
I can tell you my dog, he definitely dined on
cleaning the ice cream bowl with a regular occurrence. So
a little bit probably is not going to be a
big deal. But in general, there's a lot of fat

(15:31):
in ice cream and calories that we really just don't
need to do. So I'm not going to give you
that clearance to say it's okay to give ice cream.
It would just be something I would try to discourage.

Speaker 18 (15:43):
That's interesting. The local young man and the pet star
suggested I'd taken, but suggested what I put some peanut
buttery and what dog would and freeze it and then
give them that.

Speaker 10 (15:59):
Well, that can be kind of a fun treat, but
I would say rather than put it in the food,
frozen peanut butter can be very useful when we're trying
to get dogs to be occupied chew on toys. So
you can take a little bit of peanut butter, stick
it inside a kong or another kind of chewing toy
and keep them occupied. I don't want to just give
dogs food that really it's it's pretty ungratifying. I mean, yes,

(16:21):
they like to eat it and it's yummy, but it
doesn't really occupy their mind or their chewing instincts. So
I like the frozen peanut butter and a toy. I
don't like throwing it in the bowl. That's just it's
not letting a dog be a dog.

Speaker 18 (16:34):
We do best questions. I just said the feed dangerous
to feed dog grapes grape.

Speaker 10 (16:41):
Yes, that's actually true. Grapes and raisins have the potential
to cause kidney failure in dogs. And it's very true.
And that's another thing where people will say I've done
it before and my dog is perfectly fine. It's something
they were looking at. They don't know really what the
toxic principle is, but it can happen. So do not

(17:01):
feed grapes or raisins to your dogs.

Speaker 17 (17:04):
Thank you, Debbie.

Speaker 18 (17:04):
And what about chocolate.

Speaker 10 (17:06):
Chocolate. Oh, that's another one. Chocolate's a no no, and
small amounts aren't likely to be toxic, but you can
certainly get a taste. They'll develop a taste for chocolate.
And my own dear labrador had ingested several pounds of
chocolate items and had the world's worst chocolate toxicity. He
had heard arrhythmias, vomiting. It was a really bad stage.

(17:26):
So it can be toxic in large amounts. So I
don't like to do it at all.

Speaker 18 (17:31):
Okay, we don't do that. We just figure vanilla, little
scoop of an a tiny little tablespooneful.

Speaker 10 (17:37):
Yeah, and there's so many, you know, fun kind of
healthy dog treats out there that can be flavored like chocolate,
but they really don't contain chocolate. So if you feel
the urge to give something like that, you can always
reach to the to the pet store to find something.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I remember the the peanut butter that wasn't really peanut
butter is dog peanut butter. Dog butter is what they
call it from dog for dog, which is much.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Better formerly and healthier for dogs, good for.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Them, So you might check that out. We have a
list over at the website at Animal radio dot com.
Food so you should not feed your dog, which includes
of course, scrapes and reasons. Thank you for listening, John.
I appreciate your call today.

Speaker 18 (18:13):
Thank you. I enjoyed it very much, Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I had our next collar lined up, but she refused
to go on air. She was gonna come on, Debbie.
This was going to be Julie. She was going to
come on and say that she bathed her dog and
she took it to the groomer, but he still stinks.
She didn't know why. Well, now she says, she found
out he rolled and something had something all over him,
and she picked it all off and he doesn't smell anymore.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's good. She didn't want to come on these.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You don't want to come on air because she felt,
you know, embarrassed because she didn't realize that her dog
had rolled, hey something.

Speaker 10 (18:40):
You know what, there are sometimes the mystery smells that
come walking in the veterinary office. So I don't think, Julie,
you should feel bad at all. I've had dogs come
in that people are battling, bathing their dogs with medicated shampoos,
can't find the stink. And you know, it might turn
out to be something like a stinky old collar that's dog.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (18:59):
I was sa I save these people. They were just
ready to spend money. And I said, you know what,
let me take the collar off. And I took it off.
I was like, oh boy, you get a really stinky collar.
You gotta get a new one. And you know, forty
dollars later, you know the answer.

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Speaker 5 (20:26):
This is an Animal Radio News update and I'm Tammy Truhio. Well,
you know there's an app for that help in finding
your lost dog. There's been a couple of those out recently,
but a new one being tested out in San Diego
has taken the whole idea whole step further. It's using
facial recognition software. It's called finding rover dot com and

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it matches eight distinctive facial markers on dogs with images
uploaded by people searching for lost pets.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Eyes and noses.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
They're the important areas to help tell a dog apart,
especially the eyes size.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
And how the eyes are.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Positioned near the snout. Every dog that comes into any
of San Diego's three shelters is entered into the database,
and using it is free for anybody who's lost their dog.
That technology powering of finding. Rover was built by Stephen
Callahan and John Schriner of the University of Utah's Software
Development Center, and they do plan to expand this service
area outside San Diego. And boy, this thing is working now.

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This is one of the coolest stories we've had in
a long time. It's a heartbreaker.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
But wait for the ending. Okay.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
You might have heard about a dog known as Lady.
She's a senior black lab Retriever who had trouble walking,
but she went on a thirty mile track back to
the family that had dumped her at the shelter when
she couldn't adjust to a new puppy in the family.
She was adopted, but she left that family to find
her old one. Yeah, they took her right back to
the shelter. Okay, the story made the papers. It caught

(21:50):
the eye of wrigly chewing gum heiress Helen Rich. She
was vacationing in Hawaii at the time. She jumped on
the chance to help Lady out. She get this, She
sent one of her assistance on a private jet to
get Lady and take her to her huge farm and
mansion in Florida that's already loaded with rescued and retired animals.
And I gotta say, way to go, Helen Rich.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
Imagine not making nordther Way home and then they send
you back to the shelter.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
That's cruel, believe, Yeah, that is.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
I mean, I guess I can't judge. I don't know
what the circumstances are. I mean, but I know I
wouldn't leave my pets behind no matter what.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Come on, Joey, they got they got a new puppy.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Joey got a new puppy.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah you know this, this old Oh she's a beautiful
old seeing your black lab got gray in her muzzle.
She's just gorgeous. And she just couldn't adjust to all
the apparent excitement of having a puppy in the house.
And they said, well you gotta go.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's unbelievable. You know what they should do.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
They should take the puppy away from the family too
at that point and say, you know what, you're unfit
to be a pet on or too bad?

Speaker 8 (22:49):
Tag them.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Put a sign on the door like quarantine, only it
says no puppies allowed.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
I'm with you, because what's gonna happen in twelve years from.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Now, well, exactly the same thing, you know, but you
know what, I gotta tell them because I might be
able to capitalize on this, Just so you people know,
I can you know, put oh my god, I can't
even think about what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
I could put die on the muzzle and diet all black.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
And then you know, keep the dog looking young, and
you know, make make make a little cash on the side,
and the dog.

Speaker 8 (23:16):
Stay in the house.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
You're always thinking, aren't you.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
Yeah, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
This dog, though, got really lucky. I mean, she's going
to live the life of leisure now on this ranch.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
In the ranch huh yeah, down.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
In Florida, Helen Rich. I didn't know anything about her,
but she is nuts for animals. She has got rescued
and retired farm animals.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
And domestic animals.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I mean, this place is just running with with animals
and she just opens up her home.

Speaker 8 (23:43):
That could be a hero of the week.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Come moving up, guys, if you you really think about it.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
I'm Tammy Trio.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Get more breaking animal news anytime at animal radio dot com.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
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Speaker 20 (23:59):
Portions of today are a repeat from an earlier broadcast.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
You're listening to Animal Radio. Here's allan Judy.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, I'm just saying, if you have a hero of
the week, make sure you pronounced this name right. And
I told you this Grillo. I said that to the
very base.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I stand correct.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
We welcome to the show. Leo Grillo. How are you doing?

Speaker 8 (24:17):
Leo?

Speaker 21 (24:18):
Hey, you've heard that. I'm Italian.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
We were trying to figure out is it grio? Does
it have a you know, in southern California here, if
you put two l's together, they're silent.

Speaker 21 (24:28):
When I first came out of here, I said, my
name is Leo Grillo, Leo Grillo. And when I spell it,
they say Leo career Leo, I know your name.

Speaker 17 (24:35):
I know you guys.

Speaker 21 (24:35):
Well, yeah, they named the beach after me.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah. Yeah, you're in LA and you were actually you
were an actor, weren't you for a long time.

Speaker 14 (24:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (24:43):
I came out here in seventy seven and then the
career was just starting, and I found some dogs in
the woods, you know, a few dozen and just a.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Few, a few dozen in one place.

Speaker 21 (24:53):
In one place. Okay, three dozen in one in one place.
And it was a year of feeding them and I
remember the age. One day was pouring rain.

Speaker 14 (25:01):
It was cold.

Speaker 21 (25:01):
They had sick dogs. She said, you're going to have
to choose because you keep missing auditions. You're gonna have
to choose your dogs or your career. And I said, wow,
right now, I have to be with them. And I figured,
you know, what's a year, Well.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Good for you. So tell me about these dogs that
you found out in the wild and were they like
domestic dogs.

Speaker 21 (25:18):
Well, it's dogs and cats. What it is is, okay,
people people abandoned their unwanted pets all kinds of ways,
and one of the ways is to dump them out
and picnics picnic areas and campgrounds. And then from those
you also have dogs and cats who are born in
the wild. They're not feral, but they're born in the wild.
And the beautiful cats and dogs I have. This is

(25:39):
kitten season, and you know there are millions and millions
of kittens born right under people's noses. They don't even
know it, you know, because they're having kittens like twice
a year. And you know, I have four little, tiny, tiny,
you know, ten day old orphan kittens in an incubator
that we hand raise, you know, for another two or
three weeks before these are eating on their own. You know,

(26:01):
you're two feeding them, You're bottle feeding them. And the joy,
the sadness is that this is going on everywhere and
a lot of them are just never going to make it.
But the joy is seeing who these little surprise packages
are going to turn into in a few weeks. I
mean these are beautiful. I mean I have some now.
I lay down on the bed and the cats jump

(26:21):
all over. These are ones we just hand raised. And
you have an armpit cat, you have a stomach cat,
you have you know, they lay in different parts of
you have the neck cat, the one that gets in
your pocket. These are beautiful animals. They grow up to
be the most loving you know cats, and they all
have souls. They're all looking into you and reading your
thoughts and your feelings and anyway, that's what I do.
I met there are other people doing it. I mentioned, well,

(26:42):
there's lots.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Of people in fact, Tammy right here, does it not
to the extent that you do it. You have over
fifteen hundred dogs and cats and one hundred and fifteen
acres which makes up the Delta Rescue.

Speaker 21 (26:51):
This is sanctuary. This is not shelter. This is sanctuary.
So these are animals that come in. They've already been
one way or another. They've been delta bad card, and
I'm not going to take a chance on them ever
going out and getting having it happen again, or having
them killed. People only keep their pets two and a
half years in America.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Where did you get that fact? We were stune by that.

Speaker 21 (27:10):
We spent when we had some discretionary funds about twenty
years ago, when the direct meal was good, we spent
about twenty thousand dollars in a little over that in research.
You know, hired a research company. There are things that
wanted to know about animals so that I could figure
this thing out. And the most striking fact was that

(27:32):
people in America keep their pets only two and a
half years. Now, this was before the recession. When the
bubble burst, it got worse. So that in itself. Now,
if you're going to the pound and most just about
every rescue other than taking you know, substituting themselves for
a pound and taking people's pets, just about every rescuer
that I know goes to the pound and gets animals
on death row. Well, yeah, you're going to give them

(27:53):
two and a half extra years. That's fantastic, you know hours,
I've just spent through a lot of time in emotion
and to get them, to save them and bring them in.
I'm not going to just limit their lives two and
a half years. So we created a sanctuary.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
So each animal will live their life out there. Are
any of them adopted? Are they unadoptable animals?

Speaker 11 (28:11):
No?

Speaker 21 (28:12):
No, what it is is years ago I wrote a
book on adoptions. There wasn't any I made a movie
on adoptions, and then I knew all kinds of stuff
about adoptions, and then I found out it wasn't working.
It wasn't people.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Well, you can't save all the animals in the world.
You got to you know, there are people that will
hold on to their animals a little longer than two
and a half years. I hope I would. I know what, Well, you.

Speaker 21 (28:31):
Keep the average up. There are people that hold on
over two months.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, but you can't save every animal.

Speaker 21 (28:36):
No, no, no, that's why would you know what I do. Look,
I'm giving you an example of a really someone pushing
the envelope. I'm on that outside edge of the scale, yes,
and I'm saying, look, I have fifteen hundred. That's one thousand,
five hundred. That doesn't mean anything to you until you
come out and see it.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Agin Oh, I know, it's a lot of animals.

Speaker 21 (28:55):
Unbelievable. That's just a number of way. Do you see
it and you go, yeah, but look what one cesss
whatever kind of guy did, Look what he did. You
can take care of these three. You can take care
of the five. You know, you can take the extra
three kittens. You can do this year. Because some nut
is out there with one thousand and five hundred of them,
he set the bar. You definitely can take the ones.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
When you first started, you had a little adversity. I
believe it was the city of Glendale, or was it
it was the Humane Society in Glendale.

Speaker 21 (29:23):
I yeah, they have a two dog limit in Glendale.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
How did you.

Speaker 21 (29:27):
Find that there was nineteen seventy, No, nineteen eighty three,
I think yeah. I was in Glendale and I had
I brought the dogs home. The ones that I couldn't
I rented kennel space. The ones I couldn't put in
the kendle, the young ones, the puppies, the ones that
had the brand new disease called parvo, the ones that
I treated, and anyway, I had twenty nine. But you know,
Glendale looked over the fence one day and they saw

(29:49):
twenty nine, and so we started a big, long battle.
It wasn't that bad, you know. The city attorney said, look,
I really hate to prosecute you. I'm going to look
like crap if I do. Can you please get out
of Glendale? I said, help me get out of Glendale,
you know, find me. So one day I got a
call from Glendale from the head of animal control, who
at the time was a good friend and somebody else,

(30:11):
and they said, look, a kennel opened up with no money.
It's a disaster, it's condemned, but it's a kennel. And
so I went down there and said, oh okay. So
we managed to get some sponsors buy it, and that
was the first shelter. That was the shelter we adopted
from there.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Well, that's why you're our hero of the week because
you were asked that question, do you want to be
an actor or you want to save the animals? And
you chose the animals and you are doing a fine job.
I encourage people to check out Delta Rescue dot org.
Delta Rescue dot org. Leogrillo, thank you so much for
joining us today.

Speaker 21 (30:41):
Pleasure, thanks for having me doing good work.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
If you want to nominate someone for the Hero of
the Week, get in touch with Judy your voice at
Animal radio dot com. That's your voice at Animal radio
dot com. You know somebody in the neighborhood who's doing
good work, going above and beyond the call of duty.
It doesn't have to be for fifteen hundred, as it
could be for one or two animals. If they're just
reaching out, going above and beyond the duty to help

(31:05):
one animal, that's enough we want to hear about that person.

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Speaker 23 (32:24):
Hi everybody, this is Laurie Morgan reminding you to please
stay or neoter your pets.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's Animal Radio celebrating our connection with our pets. We're
just speaking to Leo Grillo. He is the founder and
top dog of the Delta Rescue, thirty five year old agency,
and he gave up his acting career to really save
a lot of animals, and he's doing it himself. He
doesn't like have a huge staff or anything like that.
He has fifteen hundred animals currently, nine hundred of them
are dogs.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Can you realize the undertaking that that actually is what
he's doing. It's amazing, that's right, it really is, especially
because these pets are actually living their lives out at
this set, this place.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's interesting that he doesn't adopt any animals out. You know,
that's kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
He's seen what happened. They end up like this one dog.
You know, someone else got a new puppy and get
rid of their old dog. He feels that these animals
have been through enough and he doesn't want them to
have to go through it again in their life.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, but if they could get that one on one
relationship with a brand new owner and yes, be doted
after instead of being one of fifteen hundred animals.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
But there's so many more of that need homes.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
So odd, that's exactly Odds are against these dogs.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Why he said they were adoptable.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I know, but he said, like he said, people don't
keep their animals that long time.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Unless you tell these people listen, you know, for whatever
reason this doesn't work out, make sure this.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Pet comes back here.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Okay, that's do that, you know?

Speaker 6 (33:44):
They how do you? Yeah, how do you know that
people are going to do it?

Speaker 12 (33:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
And there you see so many groups saying, God, I
found this dog back in the shelter. When I told
the people, if it didn't work out, bring it back
to me, they don't do it. They're I guess they're shamed.
They're they're shamed, yes, and they don't want to be
admit that there are fails, so they just drop it
to a different shelter.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
That almost is like a wealthy hoarder to me, that's.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Exactly what I just said to Alsa, That's exactly what
I said.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
And I didn't understand why they're not adopted.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Because he thinks that with an average of two and
a half years, as that's the statistic, and I think
that might be wrong or skewed a statistic that owners
only keep their animals two and a half years, that
adopting them out would not be a solution because they
would be homeless again in two and a half years.
And I really don't subscribe to that.

Speaker 10 (34:28):
No, no, And I think that's it's unfair to an
animal to make them be living on a ranch when
they can have a more meaningful existence.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yep, good, well, whatever his mission for fifteen hundred animals.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Good for him is a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
When you think of best friends, they had less than that.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Yeah, I had the bill for that every month. Oh
my gosh, it's an incredible job.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's a full time job. You're life taking care of Yeah,
that's your life.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Maybe four animals are a full time.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Job, no kidding. But at least they're safe.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
I mean, that's really what it's come to nowadays, to
keep them safe because people aren't taking care of them
and not heard the stats.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
They're not keeping them long enough. The shelters are jammed.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
The shelters know what they can, but you know what
happens to a lot of the animals, So you know,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 12 (35:11):
Well?

Speaker 7 (35:11):
It was it was funny that that this that the
stat that he said that people keep them for approximately
two years was actually before the recession. That's staggering because
I it's something I guess I can't understand.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I check on that, Steff.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
We don't get rid of pets.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
I've found a lot of people like that.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I know you've known a lot of people like that,
But check on that stat. That may be a small
percentage because I don't know people like that.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
But we had that whole rash of what was being
called fur closures, yes, where these homes are being closed
foreclosed on, and people would pack up their stuff and
just leave the animal and the empty house to fend
for itself.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Just because it's happening doesn't mean it's predominant. Right, Let's
take some calls for you right now. Hi, Terry, how
are you good?

Speaker 22 (35:52):
You doing very good?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Where are you?

Speaker 22 (35:54):
I'm driving through Nashville.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Nashville, We'll say hi, Okay.

Speaker 10 (36:00):
Would probably be a howdy.

Speaker 22 (36:03):
I'm from Dallas, though.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
How can we help you out today?

Speaker 22 (36:07):
Well, I've got a male cat. I got the shelter
about six years ago, and he's been in the house
the whole time. He's donn't go outside, and I was
thinking about getting another kitten, and sure how that would go?

Speaker 10 (36:23):
Okay, has been by himself? Has he been sole cat
all this time?

Speaker 22 (36:28):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (36:29):
So you're thinking of getting another kitten or a cat,
or one or more.

Speaker 22 (36:33):
Than just another kitten?

Speaker 7 (36:36):
I was so.

Speaker 22 (36:36):
I was they go to shelter to get another one,
but wasn't sure how how he would react or what
would be the best way to go about doing that.

Speaker 10 (36:45):
Okay, Well, the biggest thing that I'd say is we're
gonna go young. The best way to acclimate a new
cat into the home is really to get a younger one,
one that we can kind of ask them to take
your other kid as a big brother so that he'll
fit into the kitty household. So I'd say look for

(37:06):
maybe a kitten or just a young adult cat, and
that would be your best bet. For male cats, I
have had two male cats my own. Many people believe
that to get a male and a female that you'll
get a better combination, a little happier household, But I
think a lot of it goes down to the individual
personality of the cat, and depending on what your kitty's

(37:28):
personality is like. Now, sometimes finding a friend to frolic
with just brings out all that energy and they can
really thrive and really enjoy having a good companion. So
I'd go young cat or kitten, and perhaps maybe look
at a female if if you're looking forward to get
a boy girl's situation there.

Speaker 22 (37:50):
Well, I've always liked male cats better for some reason.
They always seem to be I don't know, easy going.
He's just he's just a big old baby.

Speaker 12 (37:59):
And.

Speaker 22 (38:01):
You know, that's what I wanted to do. I went
to the shelter about every day for a couple of
weeks looking for kittens, and I think i'd much rather
have a kitten, and i'd consider a female, you know.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
Yeah, And I've had I've had two male cats, and
so I'm kind of with you, you know. I just
I love the dynamics. They were such good boys and
I've really enjoyed that. But yeah, i'd say, you know,
look for the younger one and introduce slowly. We don't
want to kind of overwhelm either cat, so you know,
start the young one off gradually, and I would make

(38:33):
sure that you know your your cat stays top cat
and you respect that. So when you introduce the new one,
you know we're going to restrict her environment or his
his or her environment and kind of gradually work up
that introduction so that hopefully we won't ruffle any fur
for your current kitty thread. So yeah, so make it
a nice, slow, gradual kitty transition. And and thank you

(38:57):
for considering adoption. So many people can save by adopting
a cat, young, old, whatever. So yes, I encourage you, Cherry.
Let's get your kitty a friend. This is doctor Dew
with Animal Radio.

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Speaker 1 (40:08):
On the big show today, we're gonna have this guy
on who I guess he's top dog Over at Celestis Pets.
What is that Well, they shoot animal remains or let
us say remains, as well as satellites and all kinds
of things up into space. They have a brand new
business where they're gonna send your pets cremains up into
space and I believe it could either orbit or come
back in a fireball or come back as a as

(40:32):
the ashes that were in space, or I believe they
have one trip where they actually send your pets remains
to the moon. I know.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
So the the Fireball one sounds cool to me because
that's like, you know, the Viking Burial when they where
they you know, sent the raft out to sea and
burned it. So I like the Fireball one, but just
sending it out in space.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Now you're thinking, well, wait till he comes on. He
may change your mind. He has this one where it
will circle the earth. It could circle the Earth for
like a year. Can you imagine after your your animals
passed for a year, to be able to look up
and know that he or she is circling the earth.
That's kind of cool. We'll find out more about it,
certainly out of my budget, I can't afford that. I
think it starts around about one thousand dollars and goes.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Upwards to uh when it is close to their.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Thirteen thousand dollars. So we'll find out more about that
in just a couple of minutes. Right here, I like
to hear how the rich and famous live with their pets. Also,
justin Silver, is this show still on the CBS show Doctor.
You mentioned something, but I wonder if that's a rerun.
We'll have to ask him.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
He's also we I think so.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, Dave Donnenfeld, who helped him write a book called
The Language of Dogs. Hey, guys, welcome to the show.

Speaker 21 (41:39):
Hey guys, you're going very good.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
So is your show still on or is it a rerun?

Speaker 12 (41:44):
Where they are they are reairing my show Friday nights
at eighth Eastern center time on on TVG and the
TV Guide network currently right now. So it's kind of
nice we're getting we're getting some new fans and apparently
people on your show or what, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Well, that's very cool. I'm glad to hear that. I
didn't know a second life for the show. So is
the book for people that have troubles with their dogs
or is it something that you get when you have
a pupp and you sort of train him that way?
What kind of book is that?

Speaker 12 (42:14):
I'm actually you know, Dave is my business partner and
best friend.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
They do.

Speaker 12 (42:20):
Of seventeen years and a prolific writer. And when we
got when when and when we got the opportunity to
write this book? And you know they can give you
ghostwriters and things like that. I said, I don't think
it's necessary. He's so good at sort of interpreting a
lot of the stuff that I do with the animals
and also working on the psychology and with people that
I'm going to let him answer this question for you.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
That's good. And I don't believe in ghostwriters. Just like
as in radio, you don't have ghost hosts. So it's
all out on the line.

Speaker 12 (42:49):
You could be in the other room right now and
this could be your ghost host.

Speaker 11 (42:52):
It could be no.

Speaker 17 (42:55):
Yeah, Justin and I have been doing this a long time.
So when we go on sessions and Varia believe we
encounter the same problems. And in the book, the first
thing we really wanted to go out and do is
debunk the idea in some way that dogs are limited
if you think about them, just if you start back
from an evolutionary standpoint, these guys have managed to make
a living off of humans while doing very little right.

(43:16):
They are entirely dependent upon us. They get pet and
fed for you know, being cute essentially, and they're actually
a lot more adept at picking up cues. They've outperformed
primates in terms of picking up cues from our eyes.
So the first thing we kind of wanted to do
is say, hey, can you listen with your eyes and
look at your dog with a pair of fresh eyes.
So it really doesn't matter if you're dealing with a

(43:38):
puppy or a seven year old dog that seems set
in its ways. They are all capable of learning and
essentially learning the same way. So we just kind of
decided to flip the script because I felt that trainers
tend to be trainer centric. They're like, let me bring
in my set of tools and what I do in
order to teach dogs. And owners know their dogs better

(43:58):
than anybody. They know their cue, they know their quirks
and bibles, and they're able to pick up a lot
more than they realize. So we kind of go out
it and say, listen, can we teach the owner how
to teach their dog. So that's kind of our approach.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Here's sort of the rest a stone of dog language
is what you do is you're teaching the languages that's
copyright by the way, I can't use that, but you
know you're bringing there's like a language gap and you're
bringing it together, so you're speaking the same language.

Speaker 17 (44:27):
Yes, and we bridged a divide. That's yeah, that's exactly
what we're out to do. And there's no better interpreter
between these aliens and us earthlings than Justin.

Speaker 14 (44:35):
I mean, he's just.

Speaker 17 (44:38):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I don't know if we wanted to deal with one
of the questions we just got here. You talked about
how the dogs really are intently watching our owners or
the guardians for their every queue and every move. And
we just had someone calling it who was grieving over
a lost pet and they were upset. They were calling
in because their dog was grieving over the lost pet too.
What do they really know? What do they really know

(45:00):
from these cues, because it seems like they know Judy
wants to take them for a walk ten minutes before
she wants to take them for a walk.

Speaker 12 (45:07):
The reason they know what I always tell people. I
was like, you know, if you simplify things and you
look at your life, there's so many things that.

Speaker 21 (45:14):
We're doing in the course of the day.

Speaker 12 (45:15):
It's actually when you most people are distracted by fifty
thousand things, whether it's the TV, the Internet, their stellt phones,
and when they're getting ready to leave the house, there's
probably a set routine of things that they do that
the dog sort.

Speaker 21 (45:26):
Of picks up on.

Speaker 12 (45:26):
They're like, oh, when she does this or this thing,
that means ten minutes from now, we're going to end
up going on a walk.

Speaker 21 (45:32):
So they're trying to sort of.

Speaker 12 (45:33):
Just pick out whether it's the Q words or the
que actions from all behaviors at all times, and certain
things tip them off.

Speaker 17 (45:39):
Yeah, and secondarily and again just to be the advocate
for how kind of special these animals are. Dogs can
actually smell bio chemical changes in our body, so they
know that when there's a shift in mood taking place,
so they likely know it ahead of you.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
So you can't fake it.

Speaker 17 (45:53):
No, you cannot fake it.

Speaker 21 (45:55):
You cannot fake it.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Well, what about the people say, you know, I laughed
and my dog tore up the couch. Know, he's just
being bad, He's he's taking it out, He's he's reacting
because he's mad.

Speaker 12 (46:05):
No, I don't think that.

Speaker 21 (46:07):
I don't think.

Speaker 12 (46:07):
I don't think dogs get spiteful.

Speaker 21 (46:10):
I think what.

Speaker 12 (46:14):
And I know spiteful goldfish. I don't think dogs. I
don't think dogs gets spiteful. I don't I don't think
they're ever doing I don't think they're ever purposely doing
something that they think is wrong or trying.

Speaker 21 (46:26):
To piss us off.

Speaker 12 (46:27):
I don't think they do that. I think what they're
doing is uh, they're just reacting. In a lot of
times the way they're expressions of anxiety, frustration, irritability, confusion
will get expressed, may not always be in ways that are,
you know, conducive to our you know, four thousand dollars, silk,

(46:49):
couch and pillows.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
So what about my dog that when I put down treats,
I give my dog a treat and I give the
cat a treat with the cat's a little bit slower,
and the dog wants to steal the treat, and she'll
kind of look at me at the side out of
her eye like if I'm watching, and if I'm not watching,
she's gonna run over there and take that treat from
the cat.

Speaker 12 (47:06):
Yeah, awesome, Why won't you Well, you put if you
put a thousand dollars down on the table and then
you add a thousand and then another thousand dollars and
I'm a little faster than the other guy, I'm gonna
try to grab it when you're not looking. What's the questions?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
It's wrong?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Well, yeah, that they that they're not capable of immoral
thoughts or revenge, let us say, but I don't. I
don't buy that really, because they know that they get
a reaction if they do something. And isn't that what
revenge is. You're trying to get a reaction from your
your opponent or the person who you're trying to be
revengeful to, is to give a reaction and they get
the reaction.

Speaker 8 (47:42):
That's like my dogs, my dog, my one terrier.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Every now and then when he when he gets a
little swow, I'm gonna say spiteful, but maybe I'm wrong,
and he'll right in front of me, lift his leg,
peet and tear ass, you know, right right right up
the stairs, so I can't get him.

Speaker 12 (47:57):
I love that guy.

Speaker 21 (47:58):
You gotta give a little credit that I I.

Speaker 24 (48:00):
Think i've met.

Speaker 21 (48:01):
I think i've met.

Speaker 12 (48:01):
More specifically, when you leave the house and they're if
they're a little frustrated to share that they're tearing up
the house, I don't think they're trying to. I don't
think in that they're they're necessarily trying to get a
reaction as much as they're they're frustrated and confused in there,
and it's sort of an expression of their discomfort in
that specific scenario. And you know what, and here's the
other thing. And I think Dave Stable echo this. Every
animal is different, every animal, even though dogs typically learn

(48:25):
the same way, but the little sort of personalities are
all individuals. So, you know, I never try to say always,
you know, I never try to say dogs are always
like this, are always like that. So there is even
when I do say always, there is a little bit.
There's gray area there.

Speaker 17 (48:38):
Yeah, I agree, you know, I mean, on paper, dogs
are not capable of that sort of cognition. However, you know,
there have been too many times dogs have done stuff
like that where I'm like, sorry, this dog was motivated
or seeking revenge. You're not gonna talk me.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Well, the cats can do it. I'm sure the dogs
could be capable of it. You're a very funny guy.

Speaker 12 (48:58):
What was the question of what was the question? What
was that person's question about their grieving dog? If they
have a specific question that I can help with.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, how to get their dog to stop grieving over
the loss of another dog? Well, it's actually a cat,
but I've changed it for this purpose.

Speaker 12 (49:12):
Yes, well not anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
You didn't he backund yes, I did.

Speaker 12 (49:17):
You know, in my experience, there's nothing wrong with them grieving.
There's nothing wrong with them since there's a transition, And
there's also nothing wrong with setting a time that you
think is okay to move on. And so I think
that what you need to monitor is when your own
feelings of sorrow are being projected onto the dog and
you're feeling so bad for him and oh no, he's

(49:39):
still so said because flucking died and all this. That's
when you start creating a little bit of a pathology,
I think. And I think that it's reasonable to allow
the dog to have some time to grieve and to
recognize that there's a change. But then, you know, in
the animal kingdom, I always think that the indag says this,
that the rebound relationship is something that I advocate because
I think that there are too many animals dying in
shelters and that people of animals their gift to the

(50:01):
world is to go rescue another one. You know, when
people say, oh, you know, I'll never get another dog,
it's sort of like, well, you know, life is a
cycle of dogs.

Speaker 17 (50:09):
So on a real ay, Jake, you know what I
was gonna add on a real practical level. You know,
once this once his playmate's gone, there's a big void
in its life, and now the dog does not know
what to do. So again, you know, Jay, I'll speak
to that point about providing structure and knowing what to
do in a given scenario.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (50:26):
Correct, So I think that you know, if the dog
feels normal when there's another dog or another friend there,
and that's become that's become the that's become their their
their normal state, their homeostasis, if you will. That's the
best thing to do is say all right, you know what,
we've had a little grieving period and it's not like
we're trying to replace the old dog, but now it's

(50:46):
time to get another one and and return to homeostasis
where where the multiple cat and dog home here. And
I think that that's a healthy thing because I think
that it is for but it's.

Speaker 17 (50:59):
Not, as I was gonna say, as an owner. You know,
this dog was playing with this other dog god knows
how many hours a day. So you have to be
able to kind of say, all right, this is what
you need to be doing now. You know, if there's
no alternative activity, the dog's gonna sit there and grief
as long as there's nothing to do.

Speaker 8 (51:15):
Well.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I think her problem in Doctor W I think you'll agree,
was that she was down. The animal was down because
she was down, and maybe she was even reading some
of it into it, yeah, making it worse. Well, the
book looks great. It's called The Language of Dogs by
Justin Silver and the very funny Dave Donenfeld. The Language
Ofdogs dot com will put a link over at animal

(51:35):
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Speaker 1 (52:48):
Hi, Brenda, Hi, how are you good? How are you doing?

Speaker 14 (52:52):
I'm doing well? Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I was going to ask you where you are today?

Speaker 14 (52:57):
Well, Action Virna. Okay, uh yeah, Central Virginia, not far
from Charlottesville. I have a question. I have a question
about a turkey.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Okay, a turkey.

Speaker 10 (53:06):
Oh, that must be for me, then I am assuming
not for the other turkey over here house.

Speaker 14 (53:13):
It's kind of a bizar story, but basically what happened
is it fell off of a turkey truck going to
slaughter and it was playing in the middle of an
interstate and I rescued it. To make a long story short,
I got it, struggled it, and got it into the
back of my car, took it home, have it in
a dog pin. And I know nothing about turkeys. Nothing.

(53:36):
And it's been a couple of days and I'm having
a hard time getting to eat or drink. I've tried
the wild turkey seat, I've tried to crack corn is
drinking a little bit of water. But he's up there
walking around and seems to be doing fine.

Speaker 10 (53:50):
Okay, that is a crazy story. He fell off of
a turkey truck? Yes, yes, oh my gosh, hopefully.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
Oh oh that's cute.

Speaker 10 (54:01):
Was he around like the Purdue farms or anything like that.

Speaker 14 (54:04):
Well, they have, They have a lot of turkey farms
around us, and they mass produce them. And I don't
know if it's the fact that he was toop dead
because he's huge. I don't know if he coop dead
for feeding like they do sometimes the forest feeding, or
because he doesn't seem to know how to eat.

Speaker 10 (54:21):
Huh no, and he's fully feathered. He's how about how
much does this guy weigh?

Speaker 14 (54:26):
Oh, this guy weighs probably fifty pounds.

Speaker 10 (54:29):
Okay, Well, you know, as far as the sad thing
about the turkey industry is, like if we cross over
to the pets, is that these guys in captivity aren't
really like the domestically bred turkeys. They're really not here
for the long term. So they actually tend to be
bred for really big body size, and they really don't

(54:52):
live really past a year of age, and they can't
actually have some problems with their body weight becoming so
big for themselves, so that I don't know if we're
dealing with something like that. As far as diet in general,
housing recommendations I can tell you for turkeys is that
you know, we definitely want to go with more of
like a turkey feed. So if you've gone to one

(55:12):
of the feed stores and gotten that, that would be
what I would say. Most of these places in a
production facility, they're not with a big bird like that
likely going to be tube feeding a large bird. He
should be eating something more on a regular feed scale.
You can also try adding in fresh vegetables, fruits, make
sure he's got some grasses to kind of forage. So

(55:35):
and the other thing would be to make sure he's
got lots of room because these guys, obviously they're pretty big,
even though they don't fly, you know, he needs he
needs to have lots of room. And then the other
thing would be where you're housing him some because a
lot of these poultry can actually have fear of predators.
Sometimes they will not thrive if they feel like they're vulnerable,

(55:58):
So we can give them visual things to hide around.
So sometimes we'll put a perimeter fence, like a three
three foot kind of guard around the fencing, just so
he kind of hides.

Speaker 14 (56:12):
Him.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
Know who's visiting him?

Speaker 14 (56:16):
Yeah, the wild turkey's already come into pay a visit.
Have you named him the wild turkeys? Now?

Speaker 1 (56:21):
No, have you named your turkey?

Speaker 14 (56:22):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (56:23):
Named Gilbert, great Gilbert.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
There's a lot to be thankful for, doesn't he?

Speaker 14 (56:31):
Yes? He does. I mean he survived the fall off
the truck. He survived me getting him in my car.
I mean, you know, I hate to see him just
you know, waste away and die. But uh, everybody's telling
him just keeping the thanksgiving and doing that.

Speaker 12 (56:43):
I can't do that.

Speaker 10 (56:44):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah, I think I think he's pretty lucky. You two
found each other for a reason. It looks like you
now have a pet turkey.

Speaker 14 (56:53):
Yeah. I was just trying to figure out how to
get him to eat and everything. He's just now started walking,
so it appears that he's never before, you know, because
he's really not injured, so it appears that he's never walked.

Speaker 21 (57:06):
Though.

Speaker 14 (57:07):
I guess he's, like I said, the way they say
freed him in captivity, he probably.

Speaker 10 (57:12):
Man And they do just think it's so big that
they actually physically can't support their own weight. So yeah,
that can be. It's kind of the dark side o
Turkey industry.

Speaker 14 (57:22):
Well, I appreciate your time and your suggestions. Thank you
so much. Thank you for your Okay, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Up on the board there, Doctor Debbie did the iguana.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
She did the what was it?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Last week there was the African grays that dogs, the.

Speaker 10 (57:36):
Cats had skunk skunk trouts.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
We all love our animals. Huh.

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(58:44):
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This is an animal radio news update.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
I'm Tammy Trichillo.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Animals keep on getting the benefits of this high tech
world we live in. The latest is an interactive game
system to keep pets entertained while you're away.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
It's called Clever Pet.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
You put your dog's food in the Clever Pet, and
over the course of the day, the dog gets the
food in return for solving simple puzzles designed just for them.
The console has three sensitive touch pads that light up interactively,
and they're designed for your dog's nose or paw, and
you can keep track of your pets progress through the
Clever Pet app. Of course, there's an app for that
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(01:00:55):
the spring. And before creating Clever Pet, co founder Leo
Trodier created a cat feeder where the cats have to
flick a chopstick to earn food.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
So they got some crazy ideas going on over there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
With all the pet food recalls, some folks are now
turning to feeding their pets raw food now.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
The FDA, though, is out with.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
A warning on that raw food increases the risk of
food poisoning, both for you and your pet. That's because
raw meat, bones, and organs that haven't been cooked are
more likely to contain salmonilla, listeria, or other harmful bacteria.
The FDA is warning to keep the pet food frozen
until you're ready to feed it to your pet, thaw
serve and stored in containers you don't use for your food,

(01:01:35):
and take extra care when cleaning up after your pets.
They may shed that bacteria when they go to the bathroom. Well,
when you love your pet, you love your pet. That's it,
no matter what kind of breeder specie he or she is.
And that explains the actions of a woman in Salem, Oregon,
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Dell's Soul, floating unconscious in the pool. She got him out,
started pounding on on the back of the lizard, doing
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Dell Soul and Sherry are now doing just fine.

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Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Please pet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Tammy was talking about this couple of weeks ago. It
was in the news about Celestispets. That's a company out
of I'm not sure we'll find out in just a second.
I'm I'm gonna say probably one of those Southern states.
Because they launch your pets cremaines up into space. What
a great way to memorialize them. And this was so

(01:02:50):
interesting that I had to get this guy on the phone.
This is Stephen Eisley. He's the head of the Celestis
Pets division. Stephen, Welcome, to the show.

Speaker 17 (01:02:59):
Hi to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Well, now, tell us a little bit about your company.
Obviously you didn't start for the pets. You probably were
setting up satellites and all kinds of technology I would imagine,
Am I wrong?

Speaker 17 (01:03:11):
No?

Speaker 15 (01:03:12):
Correct, We're actually Houston based, so you're right about the
southern state point and we are. We're an aerospace company
that we've launched satellites in the past, or we've contributed
to other NASA and NOAH projects. And we've also, for
the last fifteen years, had what we call a memorial
space flight service, and it's been for humans and it's

(01:03:33):
been the opportunity to send loved ones on a final
memorial trip to outer space. And we had so many
inquiries from our past customers as well as folks from
around the world that said, hey, what about our pet?
Can we honor O a pet in the same way,
And that's why we decided to launch the Lesson's pets.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I gotta say, I think that's really cool. Personally, there's
a lot of strange looks in the studio right now,
but I really think it's very very cool. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I just don't understand, I mean, do they stay in
space forever.

Speaker 15 (01:04:02):
Yeah, well, there are a lot of different options, and
you know, we like to say that, I mean, what's
so cool about this is it's kind of like lighting
the largest candle and honor a loved one or a pet,
and it's unforgettable because you go to the launch, you
can watch the launches that your pet friend is flying,
and in certain instances like in our orbital flights or

(01:04:23):
deep space flight, so you can actually track it, so
you'll be able to know where your pet is at
all times. It's like anywhere in the world you are,
you can kind of be with your pet and you know,
look up to the stars and really kind of reflect
and remember those memories you have and that's why people
really love it. But we do actually offer four basic services.
The first one is a trip to space and back,
so you get the remains of the keepsake that you

(01:04:46):
can keep with yourself. And then we offer an Earth
orbit trip, which means it orbits the Earth sometimes for
years all the way to thousands of years poetially depending
on how far, so that's kind of a forever trip.
And then we have a trip to the Moon so
you can your pet can help from the Moon and
we do a voyager service, which is our deep space trip,
and that can go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
That is totally amazing, and I guess this runs anywhere
from a thousand to five thousand dollars.

Speaker 15 (01:05:12):
Yeah, and and more for the lunar trip and the
deep space mission. But we're you know, and what else
is really cool is that all of our cremains, whether
they're human or PET, they're integrated within existing spacecraft. So
it actually is kind of like they're part of the spacecraft.
They don't they're not scattered in space, they don't form
any other orbital debris, and in some cases they actually

(01:05:34):
kind of form like either like a radiation shielding. They're
all put in their own little capsules or as ballast.
So in a neat way, you're actually contributing to the
exploration of outer space, and you're contributing to funding of
existing spacecrafts and science experiments and experiments that students put
up in the space. So it's a really great way
to you know, give back as well as memorialize.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Well, how many do you do at one time? How
many go up in one rocket?

Speaker 15 (01:05:58):
Well it totally depends, I mean, and so we've obviously
never done a pet launch before because that that our
first pet. Incidentally, his name is Apollo and it is
a Australian shepherd dog, so it's very fitting that was
our first sign up. We love that, but you know,
we've sent as many as three hundred individuals up now. Now,
the way it works is that it is I guess

(01:06:20):
you could call it symbolic cremain. So it's not the whole,
it's not one's whole ashes. It's between one and seven
grams that are put in these tubes that look kind
of like lipstick tubes, and then they're carefully individually placed
within the spacecraft, either integrated in the satellite or on
the rocket.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
You have four different services and so one of them
they it goes up into orbit and comes back down
and then I guess burns up upon re entry, which
is kind of cool, right.

Speaker 15 (01:06:46):
Well, the one, the one that returns is actually it's
near it's near space, so it gets into space, but
it doesn't quite enter an orbit and it re enters
so you actually get that fully hole. The capsules can
burn up. Hey, there is an Earth orbit option that
will eventually burn up in the atmosphere, like after a
couple of months or years, and that is kind of
like a Shooting Star tribute, if you will. It's pretty

(01:07:07):
neat too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Well. Now, I know there's big concerns about space debris, right,
and does this create more debris in space?

Speaker 15 (01:07:16):
No, because they're all integrated with existing spacecraft, so we're
very cognizant of not. It just doesn't get scattered about.
The Celesti's cargo, we call it our precious cargo stays contained,
so all the families or the pets in this case,
would stay together, and they stay with the rocket. So
it either returns with the rocket or it goes with

(01:07:40):
the spacecraft. And in the case of our deep space missions,
it may travel actually with the spacecraft or with the
upper stage of a rocket, in which case that is
essentially flying into deep deep space and does not contribute
to any additional orbital debris.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
We are with Stephen Eisley, he is the head of
the Celestis Pets division, and they send up cremains about
a gram to seven grams of your pet's cremains into
space for one of four I believe four different kind
of trips. One is actually to the Moon in the
Voyager service to deep space. Now that's this is interesting.

(01:08:15):
Where is that going.

Speaker 15 (01:08:16):
Well, we actually have a number of options. We'll be
we'll be rolling out some new voyager missions, some will leave.
Our definition of deep space mission is that has to
leave the Earth Moon system. So in one case one
of them is actually heading towards the Sun, and then
in the other case we have others that will be
going you know, past other planets in fact, so stay

(01:08:40):
tuned for that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
What's the reaction been like thus far? How are people
reacting to this?

Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
Well, we've had a lot of We've had a lot
of positive feedback.

Speaker 17 (01:08:48):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:08:48):
It's funny.

Speaker 15 (01:08:48):
Everyone's concern is the orbital debris issue, which in our
case is a non impact. So I'm glad you brought
that up. But in general, you know, it's not for everybody.
You know, it's definitely a unique in different ways to
do something. But I'll tell you what. All of our
families that go through this process and attend our launches, uh,
I mean, they're just so overwhelmed with emotion. And I
think it's one of the few memorials so remember this

(01:09:11):
is past funeral, past wake all that it's one of
the few memorials where people are high fiving and cheering
because you've got this tremendous launch and and there's just
a lot of happiness going around and being able to connect,
you know, post it with your with your you know,
with your companion, your animal companion, your you're human. By
looking up to the stars just has that special effect.

(01:09:31):
So you know, we we get overwhelming great support.

Speaker 12 (01:09:34):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:09:34):
You know, a lot of people compare it as sort
of as a new cultural norm. It kind of like,
you know, in the Egyptians would mummify their pets kind
of send them with their uh their family members into
the afterlife. This is a little bit of that thought process.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
I think that's fun stuff. Can you imagine after your
animal passes, knowing that he's orbiting the earth over and
over to watch.

Speaker 15 (01:09:54):
It, yeah, overhead twelve times a day.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, that's that would be very very cool. The pet
industry sixty billion dollars a year industry. How does each
business take their piece of the pie? And I think
you guys are doing something pretty cool with your piece
of the pie. Here. The website is called Celestis Pets.
It's c E l e s t I S p
e t S dot com. We'll put links to everything

(01:10:19):
you've heard on today's show over at Animal radio dot com.
Thanks so much Steven for joining us today.

Speaker 15 (01:10:24):
Thank you appreciate it, and you know again, we love
to honor our pets as much as our family members,
and that's why we're proud to be doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
I got to ask you, doctor Debbie, would you do this?

Speaker 10 (01:10:34):
I don't know that I would, but I'm not a
real big space fan. I can see if you're a
space fan, that would be really kind of a cool thing,
you know. I mean, I don't know. I think from
from my pets, I terra Firm is a little bit
more appropriate.

Speaker 12 (01:10:48):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
I'm more into the earth, hiking, camping, voting. You know,
I think a meaningful water memorial would be appropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Okay, what about you, Joey? Do you think this is cool?

Speaker 8 (01:10:59):
Space Final Frontier?

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
I think personally it would be like taking my five
thousand dollars and putting it in that space capsule and
sending it up.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
You know, It's just it doesn't do nothing for me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
It doesn't be very often. Am I the only one?

Speaker 8 (01:11:13):
So long?

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
I would do it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Did you do it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I would do it, definitely.

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Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 10 (01:12:29):
Pepsi one is making too sweet for my palette anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
That's all junk I'm amazed. If you are drinking that.

Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
I'm surprised you're not fat. Only fat people dry. Come.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
She like eats this crap food, drinks this crap stuff,
lives life, burns candle as she does. She looks stundying.

Speaker 10 (01:12:47):
Yes, well I do like at least one diet soda
a day, and today I'm on two. So just don't
tell anybody, especially my husband's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yes, are those real teeth here? Let me see your
teeth there? Yeah, yeah, they're fine.

Speaker 10 (01:13:01):
I'm not eating the enamel off of them on my
brush and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Given the doctor a hard time.

Speaker 10 (01:13:05):
That's right to have some kind of like hang up
in some addiction.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Right, Well, it's always the people that, you know, whatever
their expertise is, they're usually they fail in that area
like that, what is it the carpenter's shelves?

Speaker 8 (01:13:17):
Yeah, always Like have you seen my dogs?

Speaker 10 (01:13:20):
Do your dogs need a good groom?

Speaker 7 (01:13:22):
And Joey, they let me tell you, it's it's sad,
but they do.

Speaker 8 (01:13:26):
My dogs always need a good groom.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
Matter of fact, two of them have never ever had
a haircut now, not or anything. I mean they were good,
they were they were brushed out and all, but I
have never given them a haircut because I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:13:37):
Want to be I don't want to deal with it.
So it's just like scruffy, overgrown terriers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Yep, that's like Judy. She's her dog is the one
that's yeap, being barks at the other dogs and is unsocialized.
But yet she's out teaching and pet sitting and answering
questions all over.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Well, I don't practice what I preach.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
No, of course not. We were just saying that none
of us really practice what we preach. Whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:13:58):
And I don't brush my dog dog's teeth every day,
so I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Hey, at least you brush yours, and that's that's good enough.
And I don't brush my dog's teeth every day or
cat's teeth either, And I know it's good though you should,
but I don't. I couldn't imagine doing that.

Speaker 14 (01:14:16):
Hi, Lily, Hi, how.

Speaker 16 (01:14:18):
Are you good?

Speaker 21 (01:14:18):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 24 (01:14:20):
I have a book, I'm I'm in Maryland, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Well welcome. How can we help you?

Speaker 24 (01:14:26):
Well, we have a year and a half old ship
suits and he is loving and everything we we take him,
we let him outside the house. We have a little
rope that he goes outside the house, and we walk
him in the evening, and I'll take him in the
morning for a quick time minute walk and he does
his business like one hundred mail boxes, and then he

(01:14:48):
comes inside and still us his business and yikes around
my especially around my table, like you know, he'll he'll
go around the tables.

Speaker 10 (01:14:59):
Is it a birch teeth people or maple? Does he
likes certain woods or trees? Oh golly, I'm sorry, I
shouldn't be making all right, No, did you mention, Lily
if you're if your little guy is neutered?

Speaker 12 (01:15:14):
He's not.

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
Oh okay, Well that's where we're going to start, because
that table leg does look like very much like a
tree to him and doesn't matter to him if it's
inside or outside. It's all his territory. And that's basically
what he's saying as he's urinating. Dogs urinate to go
to the bathroom, but they also do it to communicate,
and it's basically a way that he can't help tell

(01:15:37):
other critters human dog otherwise that that's his territory. So
just be known, this is my this is my turf.
So it is very challenging to correct this type of problem.
If we don't first address the underlying issue, and that
is getting this fella neutered. Male hormones of an intact
dog are going to cause this behavior. So if we
get him neutered and this is still going on, then

(01:16:00):
and we're going to go through some behavioral training, some modifications,
but some of the core of that is cleaning up
the areas with a good enzyme based cleaner that can
help to destroy some of that scent at its core.
And then we're going to really go back to the
basics of house training and making him go potty outside
and then keeping him supervised, almost as a puppy when

(01:16:22):
he's indoors. But before we go there, you really got
to go ahead and see about getting this guy taken
care of. Call your favorite local veterinarian and get the
snippin done.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
It's so much more than population control. It you could
have earned a lot of different sicknesses, right.

Speaker 10 (01:16:36):
Oh yeah, And you know what, you know, even though
you're having this problem now, Lily, I have a lot
of people that tell me that their dog is five
years old and they've never had a problem, And there
is really a lag time for some of these behaviors.
So we know if we neuter dogs before they develop
sexual mature signs basically by six months of age, that
we can avoid most of these behaviors completely. The problem

(01:16:58):
is when we don't take advantage of that before they're
sexually mature, then he gives them the opportunity for these
behaviors to develop, and it's a lot harder to stop that.
So for anyone out there who says, oh, my dog's
not neutered and needs to do and just fine, just wait,
this can happen, and it can very easily happen down
the road after they've been good for years and years
and years.

Speaker 24 (01:17:17):
We absolutely adore him and he's so loving. But yet
and he knows he's done something wrong because he's gonna
go you know, he.

Speaker 10 (01:17:26):
Has this look on his I know that all right now,
I'm gonna stap you there too, because that's not true.
He does not know. He does not know he's doing
something wrong. He's doing something and you're reacting to it negatively,
and that he understands that. But he does not understand
the concept that urinating in the house is a bad thing.
Otherwise he wouldn't do it. It has its benefits for him,

(01:17:47):
and he understands that and he knows that it. Sometimes
he does this and then you yell at him, but
he does not understand that association. Very common problem that
we like to kind of put human emotions to when
dogs misbehave, and it's just not true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Thanks for your call today, Lily one eight six six
four five eight four five. I know when one of
the cats around here vomits, they'll come and look at me,
and I think they're like apologetic, but apparently those are
my feelings I'm putting on the cat there.

Speaker 10 (01:18:12):
Yeah, they just want you to clean it up because
they're bothered by the smell or the look of it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Another jam Pack show, Judy, thank you so much for
doing that. I want to thank Leo Grillo our hero
of the week, as well as Stephen Eisley from Celestis Pats.
I think that's so cool. I want to shoot my animal.
I'm not even gonna wait till they die. I'm just
gonna shoot them up into space right now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Oh you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
I can't do that now. Justin silver and is very funny.
Compun Come, Come, pump compog compogw Dave Donenfeld, thank you
so much for joining us.

Speaker 8 (01:18:42):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
We had a lot of fun. Remember you could download
the Animal Radio app for your iPhone Android. It's a
free download and you can ask questions directly from the app.
We'll see you next week. Here did I get it all?

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
I think you did.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Have a great week.

Speaker 10 (01:18:54):
Yeah bye goo bye good bye everyone, say.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Always the dog do depl

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